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Speaker 2: Gredians are welcome to a Sunday edition of The Shotgun Start.
Speaker 2: It is April twelfth, Andy, how we doing, Brendan?
Speaker 1: It is Victory Monday for our gambling pot.
Speaker 2: On the board. On the board, you went, you kind
Speaker 2: of okie duke. He deeked us into a Rory pick
Speaker 2: on the preview podcast, you went there. Congrats to you
Speaker 2: pound for that. We're two for two. Now we've gone
Speaker 2: back to back. There's all sorts of I picked Roy
Speaker 2: last year, you picked Roy this year. There's a notion
Speaker 2: that Rory hasn't won a Master since PJ Clark joined
Speaker 2: the joined the Shotguns Start Friday at Golf Enterprises. There's
Speaker 2: all sorts of good trends going right now we have
Speaker 2: two fabulous masters in a row. It was another awesome
Speaker 2: Sunday Sunday. It's different, did you say, yeah? Certainly way
Speaker 2: more out in the open. We're gonna dive right into it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna bring in We're gonna bring in boys, We're
Speaker 2: gonna bring in men like Kevin van Valkenberg, who's tracking,
Speaker 2: who's writing for tomorrow Morning. We say different, very different.
Speaker 2: I think when we started this podcast last year, we're
Speaker 2: like we were like exhausted on the floor with it,
Speaker 2: with just the roller coaster of emotion, like always the
Speaker 2: worst loss, the greatest win. Everything. With the way the
Speaker 2: day started, it was already an incredible story before we
Speaker 2: ever hit a shot. Today it felt like really scrambled.
Speaker 2: I didn't know where to necessarily necessarily start. I watched
Speaker 2: a lot of it on the early stuff on television
Speaker 2: in the Media Center. Started with Rose like kind of
Speaker 2: went up to Scotti, fell back to Rory. By thirteen,
Speaker 2: it was really open there in a totally different Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went out with Scottie to start and they
Speaker 1: obviously the shotting, I mean like things are gonna be
Speaker 1: lost to the tournament. Like the shot I hit on
Speaker 1: one was absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2: Dirty from the from the straw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like he starts out with a birdie and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he's going then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, you get Rose going and Rory falls back.
Speaker 1: I mean I was jumping around and I had to
Speaker 1: take a pause going to the press center and just
Speaker 1: regroup and just take a ledge of like everything going on.
Speaker 1: And you know, I kind of regrouped and went back
Speaker 1: out for the back nine. And what I mean the
Speaker 1: magic of Augusta National is that it is just this.
Speaker 1: You know, it's such a great chasers course because if
Speaker 1: you are chasing, you could really hit shots in score.
Speaker 1: But then also it's the hardest course to play with
Speaker 1: the lead, and we've seen that. We saw that obviously
Speaker 1: with Rory all weekend. I feel like the psychology of
Speaker 1: the psychology of how you play the golf course, and
Speaker 1: Scottie talked about it in his post round press conference.
Speaker 1: It's a hard place to play with the lead. It's
Speaker 1: harder place to play with a big, big lead because
Speaker 1: you get a little bit more defensive, and the second
Speaker 1: you get a little more defensive, you just bring in
Speaker 1: the bigger numbers while other guys can that are chasing,
Speaker 1: can play a little bit notch up that aggressiveness. And
Speaker 1: we saw it all the day where you know, slow
Speaker 1: start for Rory, uh and it looked like for a
Speaker 1: second it was just gonna be Cameron Young show, you know,
Speaker 1: and then we get you know, we get Rose and
Speaker 1: Scottie searching up the leader board, and you think, okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, maybe it's Roses time.
Speaker 2: When Rose went to twelve, it was like, all right,
Speaker 2: well it's his time. The fans seem to rally around that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, smartest fans and golf the whole thing, like
Speaker 2: like really really rallying around Rose when he went to twelve,
Speaker 2: Like all right, guys, been like a hard luck bridesmaid
Speaker 2: a couple of times with the wounds from twenty five
Speaker 2: are still fresh, and it felt like it was going
Speaker 2: to be Roses to lose. You talked about chasing and leading.
Speaker 2: Rory now has great experience doing both, and each Sunday
Speaker 2: he's been a leader. He's been a chaser. He's defended
Speaker 2: the lead at the end a couple times. Now wanted
Speaker 2: in a playoff. He's kind of done everything. I was
Speaker 2: rewatching his every shot or every hole at Augusta this morning,
Speaker 2: just kind of prepping. And he had this great quote
Speaker 2: at the ten minute mark about of that video about
Speaker 2: experience He's like, look, I felt like I've had a
Speaker 2: ton of experiences at that course, both good and bad,
Speaker 2: played in a bunch of multiple final groups, and you
Speaker 2: know kind of had seen it all, and all of those,
Speaker 2: you know, boiled into that journey that he had last year,
Speaker 2: and it's just, I don't know, it keeps building on itself.
Speaker 2: This was a very different sort of It was almost
Speaker 2: the eighteenth was not that release, right. I think the
Speaker 2: very special aspect of it was his parents being there.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that, but it was sort of because
Speaker 2: he put it to two inches, right, and then it's
Speaker 2: just this tap in. It was a very different kind
Speaker 2: of release and different kind of Sunday, but another another
Speaker 2: incredible like experience he puts in the bucket for next
Speaker 2: year even and we're not going to get to that now.
Speaker 2: But what what a odd field? I mean it not
Speaker 2: in a derogatory way. It was sort of an odd
Speaker 2: Master's for him, right. It wasn't always his best stuff,
Speaker 2: and it certainly didn't feel like he was gonna win
Speaker 2: an hour and a half, two hours into it at all,
Speaker 2: and then by fourteen it was like, I don't think
Speaker 2: anyone's gonna like touch him. It was. It was a
Speaker 2: really different dynamic than last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, the golf course was really hard today.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't know, we're gonna have to do we
Speaker 2: need to talk about the golf courseational needs to be
Speaker 2: the analytics.
Speaker 1: People that were sitting on their couch might might have
Speaker 1: other takes. But I thought, you know, the thing that
Speaker 1: was there today that wasn't there the previous two days
Speaker 1: the wind, and it was it was, you know, it
Speaker 1: was really interesting as just a you know, somebody that's
Speaker 1: going around the grounds is like you'd get into certain
Speaker 1: spots where you wouldn't feel anything and be really hot.
Speaker 1: Then you get up on a ridge and you'd be like, whoa,
Speaker 1: it's really blowing out here. And it was. It was gusty.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was necessarily like consistently steady. And
Speaker 1: I think that's when that golf course plays the trickiest, obviously,
Speaker 1: because you're like having to trust these numbers and the
Speaker 1: targets are so small. And I think that's why what
Speaker 1: explains like nobody really getting it going sustained all day,
Speaker 1: Like you could see people like okay, they'd hit a
Speaker 1: couple of good shots and then it's like you just
Speaker 1: get there and then it's like you can't hit that
Speaker 1: high level shot and maybe you misjudge the wind. And
Speaker 1: the thing about Augusta especially when it gets firm, and
Speaker 1: it was pretty firm today. It was obviously very firm
Speaker 1: on Thursday. The targets are so tiny and then if
Speaker 1: you add in wind, that's a little unpredictable and you're
Speaker 1: missing the target by one or two yards. I mean,
Speaker 1: like the perfect example was the sixth six hole. I
Speaker 1: mean that back right corner was like damn near impossible.
Speaker 1: Justin Rose hit a great shot in there, but like
Speaker 1: everybody else was either coming up short, some would go long,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was all we.
Speaker 2: Got Jim by a wind there, like yeah, that was
Speaker 2: all wind. I mean, Trevor on the broadcast, I was
Speaker 2: watching like that was a good shot. That was all wind.
Speaker 1: That changed. That changed, and I think you saw it too,
Speaker 1: is like you know, hitting it. You know, Cam shot
Speaker 1: into fifteen like a moment where he you know, he
Speaker 1: he needed to make an eagle or a birdie there
Speaker 1: and he had a really good shot into fifteen. It
Speaker 1: just it was down win in that greens firm and
Speaker 1: it just bounced through. But I think that that wind
Speaker 1: particularly made it really hard to sustain great scoring today,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why we saw this, you know,
Speaker 1: this jammed up leader board and just so many different
Speaker 1: moments where you're like, this guy's gonna win, this guy's
Speaker 1: gonna win, this guy's gonna win. The good news was,
Speaker 1: you know, there's one group in there that you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't have to watch. I felt like was the
Speaker 1: Lowry Burns group.
Speaker 2: Joseph and I, I know abother podcast I'm going to
Speaker 2: talk about this. In the first ten minutes, Joseph and
Speaker 2: I were workshopping and takes like the Masters used to
Speaker 2: not put tea times out by score necessarily. They would
Speaker 2: put like you know, Jack or the lead like the Stars,
Speaker 2: Bob Jones would be somewhere in the middle, and I
Speaker 2: was like, he was like, do they just need to
Speaker 2: send those guys to the front and tell them to
Speaker 2: play five holes? Make it an even seventy two? Pull
Speaker 2: Burns and Lowry off the the off the course. How
Speaker 2: Ton just causing it all out in traffic jam backup,
Speaker 2: which I was there for. How Tug's Brown was killing me,
Speaker 2: killing me at thirteen does it didn't know the rules
Speaker 2: started picking He's in the red steaks, just picking the
Speaker 2: ball up. Incredible, like shot Scottie. No, I didn't see
Speaker 2: it on one. What did he do?
Speaker 1: He piped a drive and then he chocked. He laid
Speaker 1: sod on a wedge. I haven't my notes.
Speaker 2: I I want to come for on Lee in the
Speaker 2: first ten minutes.
Speaker 1: I have my notes. How Tongue Lee? Uh so you know,
Speaker 1: Scott he's in the trees. How Tug's right in the fairway, Scotty,
Speaker 1: he's this insane shot. Yeah, you know, and how Tongue
Speaker 1: just lays Sadie. It lands like fifteen yards short of
Speaker 1: the punting surface. He had a wedge. I mean he
Speaker 1: had a wedge. It it is a two shot swing
Speaker 1: on the first hole. I'm just put sheriff. Sheriff fixed
Speaker 1: the how to the whole one. You're right, the put
Speaker 1: the police puns in your in your notebook.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, there were just guys in the way there,
Speaker 1: but it was it was sixteen I don't even know
Speaker 1: what he ended out.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe the top forty. You might not have been
Speaker 2: in the top forty. Lamaya and I were just like
Speaker 2: you got to pull them out of there. I was
Speaker 2: going to say about the wind. That was the only moment.
Speaker 2: At thirteen I went up to get Scottie and ended
Speaker 2: up with twenty minutes of how tong Lee ruling, and
Speaker 2: I was just like, what am I doing with my
Speaker 2: time right now? And that was the only moment. It
Speaker 2: was quite I thought it was going to be a
Speaker 2: boiler quite frankly, but the wind for us made it
Speaker 2: quite pleasant. I thought it was. I thought it was
Speaker 2: a pleasant evening on the hot side, but there was
Speaker 2: absolute wind present. It was kind of pleasant breezy for us.
Speaker 2: The only time I got hot was when I was
Speaker 2: down there on thirteen just waiting for how tong Lee
Speaker 2: to hack it on the But I was like, this
Speaker 2: is so still I'm getting hot right now. But it
Speaker 2: was a great day.
Speaker 1: The thing about the day is there's and obviously everybody
Speaker 1: watching you probably felt this forrenetic pace and everything on
Speaker 1: the ground. It's like we have to make calls about
Speaker 1: like where we're going. Yeah, And it's just like I
Speaker 1: found myself on the front nine just being just pulled
Speaker 1: a million directions. I'm like looking at the board, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta go there. I gotta go there. And that's
Speaker 1: why I had to call time out. I had to
Speaker 1: go back to the press center and I watched all
Speaker 1: the shots of the people in the mix, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, now I feel like I've got a
Speaker 1: clear head.
Speaker 2: I actually know what's going on. Yeah, and going back
Speaker 2: out there, I felt scrambled. At times, I'll say, we'll
Speaker 2: get through this on our notes. I felt like this
Speaker 2: you get lucky. Sometimes. I feel like I had like
Speaker 2: four or five instances today where I was like, God,
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I'm on the ground, like really, like
Speaker 2: I got the goods and we'll get like whether I
Speaker 2: was walking with Faldough being next to Rory on eighteen
Speaker 2: the rain scene, quite frankly, was some of the best
Speaker 2: scene I've ever gotten with he and Cam. The wind stuff,
Speaker 2: though I noticed it, especially with Rose. I think that
Speaker 2: really jammed him, like all of a sudden, he was
Speaker 2: backing off his ball like non stopping and eleven like
Speaker 2: it's twelve, you.
Speaker 1: Know, seventeen backed off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really it started like it started there around
Speaker 2: like when he went took the lead, when he quite frankly,
Speaker 2: once to twelve and it was there were it was
Speaker 2: gusting and swirling a little bit, and he just just
Speaker 2: got quickly uncomfortable and fell off. Obviously they were just
Speaker 2: couldn't push the pace anymore. We should talk about Roy
Speaker 2: McElroy probably, Yeah, do we want to go legacy? We
Speaker 2: want to talk about his specific day today. I let's
Speaker 2: talk about his day. I think that's the best, the
Speaker 2: best path, you know.
Speaker 1: I I to have a six shot lead, to lose
Speaker 1: the six shot lead, and then to go at one
Speaker 1: point I think he was three back in the final
Speaker 1: round and to regroup. I mean you could talk there's
Speaker 1: good experience, bad experience, there's maturity, and I think it
Speaker 1: just shows how much you know, kind of grit the
Speaker 1: guy has where you know so many people to if
Speaker 1: you lost a six shot lead in a single day,
Speaker 1: it would just be devastating to you. And then to
Speaker 1: come out of the gates the way he did slow
Speaker 1: have that, I mean just just a real bad double
Speaker 1: on four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It's kind of interesting. It sort of
Speaker 2: lined up with some of the grades he gave himself,
Speaker 2: like my irons were not good. It was a bad
Speaker 2: like a big pole, I mean, left of the Bonker
Speaker 2: pretty good way, great great ship, good ship, and then
Speaker 2: pulled the lf Potts the second one was more unforgivable.
Speaker 1: The first one was hard, but like to be able
Speaker 1: to you know, to be able to go down the
Speaker 1: way he did into I mean, the guy was twelve
Speaker 1: under through two days and then he's standing on the
Speaker 1: seventh t at nine under and you're just you. So
Speaker 1: many players would just be shell shocked, and I think
Speaker 1: we've seen Rory at different points in his career at younger,
Speaker 1: younger years in that state of shell shock and it's
Speaker 1: just spirals out of control from there. The ability to
Speaker 1: regroup and be calm in that moment and understand, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've gotten some bad breaks. I hit a great shot
Speaker 1: on six that you know, ended up long and that
Speaker 1: was a really tough spot to be and to be
Speaker 1: able to just regroup and be like, basically, the world,
Speaker 1: my world is not ending, and to to kind of
Speaker 1: you know, regroup, make a couple of birdies, get back
Speaker 1: in the mix, and then like just understand. I think,
Speaker 1: like it's so easy in that moment to like, you
Speaker 1: have this number, he said in this his pros round,
Speaker 1: Like I had this number fifteen fifteen under my head
Speaker 1: right as so like my goal of what I wanted
Speaker 1: to get to today, I thought that would win for sure.
Speaker 1: So you think about how you would feel if you
Speaker 1: started the day fifteen under is my number and on
Speaker 1: the seventh te you're sitting at nine.
Speaker 2: He talked about it in that moment, like I really
Speaker 2: like if I didn't make those birdies seven and eight,
Speaker 2: I just he didn't know, he was just gonna have
Speaker 2: to go all gass the whole way through the back.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then like you said, he you know, he's standing
Speaker 2: there on seven and he gets it, gets it done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And at that point, you know, Rose had pulled past
Speaker 1: some Cam who he's playing with is is out ahead
Speaker 1: of him, And you know, I think like probably like
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons that he felt okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think like a pivotal moment of the round
Speaker 1: was the Cam Young miss on six, Like that gave
Speaker 1: that had to have given him fuel in that moment
Speaker 1: of like okay, like I'm I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Did Cam make another putt after that? I'm trying to
Speaker 2: I guess he birdied eight, but that was an amazing
Speaker 2: at fifteen, sixteen seventeen, he just like did not. I
Speaker 2: think after six he just really struggled with the Pott
Speaker 2: about this Potter yeah, it was, uh.
Speaker 1: And I mean so then you have Cam, you have Rose,
Speaker 1: you have Schefflers all of a sudden right square with you,
Speaker 1: and you're like and then he goes and he just
Speaker 1: he finds that championship gear and he gets, you know,
Speaker 1: basically into a similar position of where he was on
Speaker 1: you know, last year, like not quite as big of
Speaker 1: a lead, but he walks off twelve t with the
Speaker 1: tournament in his hand.
Speaker 2: Really, I we talked about this a little bit when
Speaker 2: he took the took the big six shot lead, like
Speaker 2: he has these fourteen hole stretches or seven hole stretches
Speaker 2: where like I won the tournament there. I don't think
Speaker 2: he clearly didn't win it on Friday night. It just
Speaker 2: sort of came at this clean break of the thirty
Speaker 2: six hole mark where everybody could write this narrative of, uh,
Speaker 2: he's twelve and maybe sometimes that would happen on a
Speaker 2: Thursday morning where he goes out in thirty or a
Speaker 2: Friday afternoon coming in and and and it just happened
Speaker 2: so fast and made it this clean narrative for the weekend.
Speaker 2: But he didn't have his best stuff this entire week.
Speaker 2: And but he's quote unquote freed up, right, he has
Speaker 2: the jacket in his locker already, And we talked about
Speaker 2: how much he's evolved as a golfer, and like we
Speaker 2: know his strategic brain is is on point and has
Speaker 2: been for the last five years or so. Whatever you know,
Speaker 2: term you want to put on it, based on his
Speaker 2: US Open performances, based on his performances here, Like mentally
Speaker 2: he's freed up. Physically, he's like always had the game
Speaker 2: to play here quite well. And so it was interesting
Speaker 2: I thought this week compared to last year, it's probably
Speaker 2: those first two, like strategic brains dialed. He's knows this
Speaker 2: course is bed as well as anyone, Like mental brain
Speaker 2: has dialed. He's freed up, has seventeen years of experience,
Speaker 2: and not the pressure of putting a jacket in his locker.
Speaker 2: Maybe the pressure of this you know, big lead or
Speaker 2: whatever and being in contention.
Speaker 1: I think there was I you know, I Rory's a historian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of pressure. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'd admit it or not, but like I
Speaker 1: think he probably felt a lot of you know, it's
Speaker 1: not the career Grand Slam. It doesn't equate to the
Speaker 1: career Grand Slam coupled with a eleven year drought. But
Speaker 1: I I I have to think that this weekend he
Speaker 1: felt it for becoming the fourth player of all time
Speaker 1: to win back to back.
Speaker 2: I completely there was I'm not suggesting he was totally free,
Speaker 2: but it was a different kind of weight I think
Speaker 2: probably than last year when you're talking about these these
Speaker 2: these notches on the resume are a little like less
Speaker 2: weighty than oh my god, I've never won the Masters.
Speaker 2: In career Grand Slam. It felt like those three of
Speaker 2: those three aspects, like the physical the game was the
Speaker 2: one he had to work with, work on the most.
Speaker 2: And that's where he's standing on that seventeen And like
Speaker 2: you know, we'll talk about the rest of the field.
Speaker 2: No one ran away with it. Those guys were and
Speaker 2: you talk about the wind, and there were reasons for it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like guys were necessarily gagging on themselves. It
Speaker 2: was like the physical stuff he had to sort of manage.
Speaker 2: The game. He had to manage like, uh ore is
Speaker 2: my T shirt on thirteen? Gonna go miles into the
Speaker 2: pine straw again. He worked on it Saturday night on
Speaker 2: the range, like that was the part he had to
Speaker 2: manage the most, not the weight of sleeping on the
Speaker 2: leader at the lead or the final group on Saturday
Speaker 2: night like he did last year with Bryson. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: it's probably good spot to be if you're Roy McElroy,
Speaker 2: given the golf skills you have.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you think about it, it's like the
Speaker 1: confidence now even more so now where he wins this
Speaker 1: with you know, you always imagine for years Rory McElroy
Speaker 1: winning this and this was very much last year outside
Speaker 1: of if you take away the double bogie, you know,
Speaker 1: those four holes. Basically Rory McElroy won last year because
Speaker 1: of just Tee degreen excellence and he you know, he
Speaker 1: putted well right, but he was he was he had
Speaker 1: just full control of the golf ball. Last year he
Speaker 1: drove it so well outside of you know, the holes seven,
Speaker 1: fourteen and seventeen. And this year it's like he won
Speaker 1: because he understood what he was like how he was
Speaker 1: playing the golf course and he talked about it in
Speaker 1: his post round press or you know, he's it's basically
Speaker 1: been the only place he's played for three weeks, right,
Speaker 1: you know, he he came out here, he talked about
Speaker 1: how he had talked to Jack about, you know, how
Speaker 1: he prepped and Jack would go out to courses the
Speaker 1: week before and play, you know, a bunch of rounds
Speaker 1: of keep score single ball, and Rory did that and
Speaker 1: he you know, obviously on Saturday he spoke about how
Speaker 1: he dropped Poppy off at school, get up there and
Speaker 1: come back for dinner. And I think, like you saw
Speaker 1: some of that experience, and you know, in in little
Speaker 1: places like you know, just where he was leaving his
Speaker 1: golf ball when he would get in trouble, or some
Speaker 1: of his misses I think were different than he he
Speaker 1: used to used to play it. And the comfort level
Speaker 1: with the with the shots around the green, I think
Speaker 1: we're was so evident. He was just magical around the
Speaker 1: green all week and I I you know, it's terrifying
Speaker 1: when you think about zooming out like he he won
Speaker 1: without his best stuff tea Green. If you know this,
Speaker 1: the whole dynamic of him at Augustin National has completely flipped.
Speaker 1: It is a place he loves to spend time now.
Speaker 1: It is a place that he fully understands how to play.
Speaker 1: And because of the way he won last year, where
Speaker 1: he basically did everything people said you can't do and win.
Speaker 1: It has now given him this freedom and now it
Speaker 1: like adds on top of that that he won without
Speaker 1: his best stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just to talk about like his happy
Speaker 2: hunting ground.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: It was funny to watch him fly off in a
Speaker 2: golf card after they've done the jacket ceremony on the
Speaker 2: putting green and then go down the first hole. He's
Speaker 2: just like waving from the cart at the crowd like
Speaker 2: it was like, this is like kind of is his
Speaker 2: place now, you know, his his happy his happy place.
Speaker 2: Now you mentioned the short game, just to put it
Speaker 2: sort of put a bow on that sixteen. He has
Speaker 2: to he has to do kind of the tiger ish play, right,
Speaker 2: he missed it. He goes long left. Not not quite
Speaker 2: that that shot at all, but an incredible play through there.
Speaker 2: Seventeen missus short, which he said was a harder chip
Speaker 2: than people thought or it looked. That's another short game shot.
Speaker 2: Eighteen not the most impossible bunker shot, but has to
Speaker 2: get out of a bunker with all the pressure of
Speaker 2: no doubles, no doubles. We just watched Bryson do the
Speaker 2: same thing, you know, hit from that bunker and have
Speaker 2: a roll off the front and he made a triple
Speaker 2: and so short.
Speaker 1: If you go back to really another really important moment
Speaker 1: in the round, just like last year, up and down
Speaker 1: on three from the bunker. Yeah, in his shot. They
Speaker 1: both hit great bunker shots. I thought Roy's was really
Speaker 1: well well done because you know, it's like you listen
Speaker 1: to all the greats, and I think Bernard said this Friday,
Speaker 1: I guess like when the pins weight left on three,
Speaker 1: all you want to be is left of it, but
Speaker 1: there's only five paces to be left of it. He
Speaker 1: left it right left of it short, right up the
Speaker 1: gut on that hole, which was interesting, you know, came
Speaker 1: right after like something. You know, I while you're watching
Speaker 1: these tournaments, you're just looking for these like micro moments,
Speaker 1: and I thought, like last year, Rory being outside of
Speaker 1: Bryson on three really was a big moment because he
Speaker 1: made the putt. Bryson misses the putt. You know, the
Speaker 1: same thing happened on two though, but it was flipped
Speaker 1: where Cam, I mean Cam literally Chili dipped that wedge
Speaker 1: and it was he was looking at using the bank
Speaker 1: to feed it back in and he just like it was.
Speaker 1: It was so lucky. And anyways, he ends up right
Speaker 1: behind Rory's ball. He makes Rory missus and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh that, you know, like that, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: one of those moments you file away, but then you
Speaker 1: know Rory comes back and makes the birdie there and
Speaker 1: just to give it away. But like that short game
Speaker 1: was there all week and and it just bailed him out.
Speaker 1: And is as much as everybody always is driving you know,
Speaker 1: you got to drive it well, you got to hit
Speaker 1: good irons. And this is what makes Augustus such a
Speaker 1: great term. Of course, you have to do everything. And
Speaker 1: I think the short game is the the the skill
Speaker 1: that that people often overlook. That is like there aren't
Speaker 1: bad chippers of the golf ball that win the Masters.
Speaker 3: For the most part.
Speaker 1: No, No, they are like the best hands in the
Speaker 1: game typically win. I Guessa Rom, Scottie Ryk, recent winner,
Speaker 1: Patrick Reid, Jordan Spith, Like you go down the list,
Speaker 1: olthavl Sev. You know all these guys are are typically
Speaker 1: great chippers of the golf ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, we should do on a day
Speaker 2: like today. It was a roller coaster in and of itself.
Speaker 2: It wasn't quite like the one last year. We had
Speaker 2: to narrow it down to like the shot of the
Speaker 2: day or the shot that won.
Speaker 1: Him the tournament. It's probably twelve. It's probably twelve, which.
Speaker 2: On Sundays, if we're being honest, is usually just sort
Speaker 2: of like, you know, aim over the bunker and make
Speaker 2: your three, or you roll it into the water and
Speaker 2: you lose it. There's rarely of like go and grab
Speaker 2: it by the neck to there and Rory cut one
Speaker 2: in there beautifully fade right up. Had an amazing anecdote
Speaker 2: about listening. I mean this talks about the experience and
Speaker 2: the weight of it no longer being on the weight
Speaker 2: of not having a jacket. Talk about a two thousand
Speaker 2: and nine practice round he had with Tom Watson in
Speaker 2: describing just wait for your wind. Wait for the wind
Speaker 2: that you want while you're over the wall. Wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: and wait.
Speaker 1: Wait for the wind that you know is the wind
Speaker 1: because it swirls back there. So it's like wait for
Speaker 1: the wind that you know where it's supposed to be,
Speaker 1: and then hit as fast as you can.
Speaker 2: And he's leaning on that, you know, that's seventeen years ago, right,
Speaker 2: and has the recall and I'm sure he's applied that
Speaker 2: in the you know, every year he's been here, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of I wouldn't say took the tournament by
Speaker 2: the scruff of the neck, but he never gave it
Speaker 2: back when he when he after he hit that shot,
Speaker 2: and so it was you don't see that that often.
Speaker 1: At twelve a two on Sunday, I think, yeah, that
Speaker 1: shot was awesome, it was a it was a great shot.
Speaker 1: It's the whole maturation too, of the golfer. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of pro golfers that
Speaker 1: wouldn't have the wherewithal to ask a legend of the game,
Speaker 1: like Tom Watson, what do you do here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then there are a lot of golfers that you know,
Speaker 1: might be told that and then like forget about it.
Speaker 1: Like Rory's got this encyclopedic golf brain. He remembers everything,
Speaker 1: he knows the history of the game. One time I
Speaker 1: was having a conversation with him and we were just
Speaker 1: talking about something and we were talking about Monty and
Speaker 1: I said something and goes, Manti never won that tournament.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I might have gotten mixed up.
Speaker 1: And I was like thinking, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was this. He was like, yeah, Monty never won
Speaker 1: that he lost to this guy, this guy, this guy,
Speaker 1: this guy like rattled off like eight years of history
Speaker 1: of that tournament and it's like the golf brain to
Speaker 1: do it. The skills and like that golf shot again.
Speaker 1: If you go back to the early part of Rory's career,
Speaker 1: a lot of the criticism of Rory's career not a
Speaker 1: great short iron player, can't take speed off bad wedge player,
Speaker 1: And that was a three quarter absolute perfect, perfectly executed
Speaker 1: soft arm swing nine iron that hit the perfect distance.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's just like that. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what makes golf such a beautiful game, is that you
Speaker 1: can have all the talent, but in that moment it
Speaker 1: required the wherewithal of the information he got from Tom Watson,
Speaker 1: which he probably asked for that he filed away for
Speaker 1: the rest of his career from two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: and then the maturation of his golf game to be
Speaker 1: able to execute is such a highly technical I think
Speaker 1: most guys just get to that tee and pray that
Speaker 1: they have the perfect yardage. But it's a look, you
Speaker 1: got to take speed off a nine iron in that moment.
Speaker 1: When you're not, you're not having a great hitting irons,
Speaker 1: Like when you're taking speed off and you're strugglingly a
Speaker 1: little bit, it is so easy to do exactly what
Speaker 1: he was doing all day Saturday, which is your body
Speaker 1: stops moving, you come over the top, and you pull
Speaker 1: it and you hit it long left.
Speaker 2: He said, I wouldn't have had that. I didn't have
Speaker 2: that shot yesterday Saturday done to your point. You know,
Speaker 2: he came out and said, I couldn't have hit that yesterday.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean that's where he went and got it. And
Speaker 2: then you know, because it's rory at the Masters, you know,
Speaker 2: he hits like one of the worst dribes you'll see
Speaker 2: on eighteen, like one of his worst. I was wondering,
Speaker 2: like if he's ever had that shot of all the experience,
Speaker 2: experience experience we're talking about, Like, has he ever in
Speaker 2: any circumstance. I doubt he practiced it.
Speaker 1: The wedge on fifteen was scary too.
Speaker 2: I mean that I thought they mixed the pins really
Speaker 2: well today. You know fifteen that's the fattest part of
Speaker 2: that green. That doesn't make it easy. Green fifteen has
Speaker 2: been very firm all all weekend. New were green. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not it's not to say it's fat, but that's
Speaker 2: that's the fattest part where it gets That was Uh,
Speaker 2: that was a little dicey there. It was a little dicey.
Speaker 2: I was looking from the side hill into the sun,
Speaker 2: like trying to see it. But so it was interesting.
Speaker 1: The whole way round had flashbacks of thirteen last year.
Speaker 1: I was up at the top I was up at
Speaker 1: the top of the grand stand there, just like I
Speaker 1: was last year on thirteen, and they hit it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, that's going to get on his horse.
Speaker 2: Gotta go right, go to the whimp ride the horse.
Speaker 2: So then he eighteen. I ended up right and he
Speaker 2: walks up. He kind of does this exhale as he
Speaker 2: gets to his ball and the pine straw and like
Speaker 2: shakes his head, and it was kind of like, I
Speaker 2: gotta do like one more. I mean five is it's
Speaker 2: nice to know you need five only and six is
Speaker 2: a playoff.
Speaker 1: I mean it went so far right. It was an
Speaker 1: advantage because he could hit the big sweeping draw. Yes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like there was so much crowd in the way. He's like,
Speaker 1: you got to get out. He's going right, you come back, kids,
Speaker 1: And uh, I walked by it. I walked by it,
Speaker 1: and I was looking through the trees and uh, I'm
Speaker 1: flicking through the trees. I'm like, oh, there's nothing there.
Speaker 1: I was with Brentley. Yeah, ironically it was funny Brentley. Uh,
Speaker 1: Brentley got a hamstring camp cramp there. Didn't know if
Speaker 1: he was going to make it roll.
Speaker 2: Down the hill. He might be quiet, might have been
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: You might have the questionable time for his media lottery
Speaker 1: around it. But anyways, Brentley's like, he's gonna chip it
Speaker 1: through the trees. I'm like, the play is up here.
Speaker 1: He's got to hit the big hug it was.
Speaker 2: I just exhaled, and he talks to Harry goes it's
Speaker 2: gonna come out a little spinnier because it's from the
Speaker 2: pine straw. And just you know, as he was over
Speaker 2: the ball, this giant plume of cigar smoke enveloped him.
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to back off the ball
Speaker 2: like I would have, like it had to have. It
Speaker 2: was some yahoo. Jimoke was right there.
Speaker 1: What an idiot, and like just puffed and it went
Speaker 1: directly up the hill from the crowd, like went right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he noticed it. I couldn't have
Speaker 1: been I wouldn't have been able to do it.
Speaker 2: Like it just went right over him as he's over
Speaker 2: the balls, like, oh my god, he's got a back off,
Speaker 2: and then he hits it. You know, he planned it out.
Speaker 2: It just dumps into the bunker and makes his five,
Speaker 2: takes his medicine just all the way. Just had to
Speaker 2: ride it all the way in, just with six maybe
Speaker 2: in play there and the playoff with Scheffler and Rose
Speaker 2: would have been would have been an interesting playoff. But
Speaker 2: you know, he gets it done.
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about he's got this two shot lead.
Speaker 1: Sixteen's generally like a birdie hole with that whole location.
Speaker 1: You know, he has past the he has this delicate putt.
Speaker 1: That was an incredible putt he hit there eighteen from No.
Speaker 1: Six on sixteen from off the green, Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: seventeen that I think that was actually like kind of
Speaker 1: a good spot to leave it. I was wondering that
Speaker 1: because he started walking after it. Yeah, and like I
Speaker 1: think he knew he left he missed a good spot there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was chipping right up the hill. It wasn't
Speaker 1: an easy shot by any means, But that shot on
Speaker 1: seventeen is so hard, like your natural reaction is to
Speaker 1: hit it left there, and I I don't know if
Speaker 1: if this is what he if he was purposely trying
Speaker 1: to miss it over there. The natural thought is that,
Speaker 1: but that that green screams away even though it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like it. It looks like you're chipping up hill,
Speaker 1: but it's actually going away. And that the chippy left himself.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so good at that little and this
Speaker 1: is just a shot that he has that I don't
Speaker 1: see other people a lot of other players. I see
Speaker 1: Scotty hit this shot at Augusta and maybe it's just
Speaker 1: like kind of a shot that some guys have in
Speaker 1: Augusta that just unlocks things. He hit that on He
Speaker 1: hit the same shot on six on Saturday or Friday.
Speaker 1: But it's this like he hits that low sixty degree
Speaker 1: that hits into like the frit and pops it and
Speaker 1: then it stops him. And Scotty do that so well there.
Speaker 1: But that's chip on seventeen. I mean, he made it
Speaker 1: so difficult on himself.
Speaker 2: Again, he called that harder than a look. But I
Speaker 2: do think he thought he missed it in the right
Speaker 2: spot there on seventeen. You know, all things considered it's
Speaker 2: it was a great chip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: Short game had to work, short game had to work
Speaker 2: all the way.
Speaker 1: In all right, I mean, yeah you think. I mean
Speaker 1: just the way golf always works is that you're presented
Speaker 1: with the things like you come down the stretch, the
Speaker 1: pressure ramps up, and like the the things that you're
Speaker 1: just like not feeling are going to get exposed. And
Speaker 1: that the Teeter Green game got exposed the last three holes,
Speaker 1: and the short game putting bailed him out, which he
Speaker 1: you know, he said was an a this week. Do
Speaker 1: you think about Cam Young coming down coming down all
Speaker 1: really like the whole day? How were Young? It's been
Speaker 1: a great putter for the last year, but the Achilles
Speaker 1: heel has always been the putter, and the putter just
Speaker 1: left him on Sunday, justin Rose his struggles this week
Speaker 1: and what we're with the putter. The putter kind of
Speaker 1: let him down. Three three putt at thirteen.
Speaker 2: That was kind of like a real punch, thank god,
Speaker 2: especially after you know, yeah, after eleven.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it was was not a three putt for
Speaker 4: Cam at thirteen.
Speaker 2: Camps Potter h Rory mentioned after his round that he
Speaker 2: realized the Grand Slam is not the destination last year,
Speaker 2: and I would I would put that there were three,
Speaker 2: as you know, three acts in his career right now.
Speaker 2: There's obviously the immediate spoils right from to twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Then there was the drought where quite frankly, he was
Speaker 2: never outside of you know, he was always felt like
Speaker 2: one of the top five players in the world. There
Speaker 2: were some dry years there where the wedges were, you know,
Speaker 2: going boom out of here. But he's still maintained. He's
Speaker 2: still winning FedEx Cups, and he was a top ten
Speaker 2: player in the world.
Speaker 1: He's basically been a top ten player without you know,
Speaker 1: there's been maybe two periods since twenty ten.
Speaker 2: So that was act too, like a great player, not
Speaker 2: getting it done at the majors, but still like clearly
Speaker 2: like the ambassador of an ambassador of the game. I
Speaker 2: think we're in act three now, where we are running
Speaker 2: up the resume. I have fully formed a golfer. All
Speaker 2: the physical tools are there. I'm not over the hill
Speaker 2: physically or with my game at all. He's still the
Speaker 2: longest and and you know he's he's at six now,
Speaker 2: he's passed Brooks. I'll remember that full swing where he
Speaker 2: sits in the locker room. I think it was okill
Speaker 2: and he's like, like it was one of the better,
Speaker 2: more insightful parts of Full Swing.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's got the five be meet to five.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a player in my era, in my
Speaker 2: contemporary that has more than me. And you know, at
Speaker 2: that point he's at sitting on almost ten years without
Speaker 2: one and you know obviously matches him. Last year, he
Speaker 2: passes him. This year he ties Philly ties. Surnick fell though,
Speaker 2: who I was going to give thirst bucket of the
Speaker 2: Year award, a first spucket of the Day award, but
Speaker 2: then he gave me time like a proper, proper night,
Speaker 2: sir Nick, and said, I go, what did you need this?
Speaker 2: I I witnessed this happening. It was it was too
Speaker 2: too large man walking try first tride together. I'm certain Nick,
Speaker 2: someone I wouldn't I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to have him rushing off the edge of battle on
Speaker 2: the outside. Yeah, it was good walking with it. But
Speaker 2: he jumped in as Rory's rock walking from Butler Cabin,
Speaker 2: which was cool. I mean, like to the two of
Speaker 2: the best euros of all time and the back to
Speaker 2: back euros at the Masters and six time Ajor winners.
Speaker 2: I asked Snick, like, what did you talk to worry about.
Speaker 2: He goes, what you tell me, says I told him,
Speaker 2: he's effing amazing. So what did he say? He said,
Speaker 2: twelve is the whole deal. Twelve was the whole key.
Speaker 2: Golden Bell was the hole where he won the Masters,
Speaker 2: and it was you know, he's now matched with Sir
Speaker 2: Nick Faldough. How many Majors does he get? So it
Speaker 2: seems like he's motivated. This is not the destination.
Speaker 1: So there's eleven players in the history of golf with
Speaker 1: more major championships Jack Tiger, Hagan at eleven, Hogan Player
Speaker 1: at nine, Watson at eight, Varden at seven, Jones at seven,
Speaker 1: Sarah's and at seven, Snead at seven, Arnold Palmer at seven,
Speaker 1: and then the group of six is Faldo, Mickelson, Trevino.
Speaker 1: I you know, I you know, you get to this point.
Speaker 1: It seems, as he said in his pre tournament press conference,
Speaker 1: this is the eiest one for me. Now that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's at the same course. He's unlocked the course I was,
Speaker 1: you know, this weekend had hit a snag, but it
Speaker 1: felt like the first two days, given how he hit
Speaker 1: the golf ball, it felt like he's gotten to the
Speaker 1: point where like you go to the you play the
Speaker 1: video game over and over again, and you get to
Speaker 1: the final boss and it kills you every time, you know,
Speaker 1: and you can't get past the final boss. And then
Speaker 1: one day you figure out how to how to beat
Speaker 1: the boss and it's like, oh, I just have to
Speaker 1: go left left ab and I got it, and that's
Speaker 1: the move to beat him. And he like figured it
Speaker 1: out and and so you know, I think if you
Speaker 1: told Rory, you know, two years ago, or you tell
Speaker 1: him March of last year, this is where you're gonna
Speaker 1: hit the ball all week, he would have been I
Speaker 1: have no clue. I have no way. There's no way
Speaker 1: I'm going to win the Masters. I mean he hit
Speaker 1: what did he hit? How many fairways did he hit
Speaker 1: on par fives two or three? He hit eight today?
Speaker 1: He had number eight today he hit eighteen two. So
Speaker 1: he hit three fairways. He hit three of sixteen on
Speaker 1: par five fairways for the week, and he won.
Speaker 2: He did all his work on the par five still,
Speaker 2: so he was even on the threes, which is a
Speaker 2: good score. Even on the threes, two on the fours,
Speaker 2: and ten under on the par five and.
Speaker 1: He didn't hit He was never hitting them in two, right, right,
Speaker 1: right right. He had fifteen yesterday and he had eight
Speaker 1: today and those are the only greens that he hit
Speaker 1: in two.
Speaker 2: What would you grade his?
Speaker 1: Like? This is insane. He's got a green jack his
Speaker 1: golf game. It was a be He chipped and putted
Speaker 1: his ass off. His chipping was so good. Some of
Speaker 1: the places he got up and down from this week
Speaker 1: were banana land places. You look at his like strokes
Speaker 1: gained and that doesn't tell the story in MI, but like, well,
Speaker 1: the data tells us everything.
Speaker 2: You know, there's no persons of the data. Around the
Speaker 2: green was the highest for sure. But none of this
Speaker 2: was exceptional. Was it like, oh, you're gained four shots
Speaker 2: off the te today or off the t this week?
Speaker 2: Our approached nothing. It was all kind of slightly above average,
Speaker 2: all slightly above average, nothing dominant, And is around the
Speaker 2: green really saved him? It wasn't.
Speaker 1: So I think I think you put the majors. Majors
Speaker 1: are hard, and I've refused its gonna be a favorite aronomic.
Speaker 1: I refuse to allow myself to be a prisoner of
Speaker 1: the moment, and and to say the floodgates are open.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the over under seven and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you think seven and a half total masters,
Speaker 1: total major Peach, what would you say?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: Eight seems fine. PJ says, where's your.
Speaker 4: My I've been on three all week? But Kvb's on three?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, producer PG eight. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go over. Feels like he's man, feels like he's pretty
Speaker 2: motivated to run it up. It's like, you're not gonna
Speaker 2: see me go into this, Like how do I figure
Speaker 2: out how to come down from Everest this year thing?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's easier said than done now that he's
Speaker 2: that he's won, But I think I think Shinnecock's a
Speaker 2: big thing for him. I think ironimic plays into his
Speaker 2: hands nicely, as almost every PGA does.
Speaker 1: You have to think the open at the old Course
Speaker 1: next year is like highlighted and then but that almost
Speaker 1: what feels like one of those masters he's like I
Speaker 1: almost like don't want to touch that cause he's too
Speaker 1: zeroed in on those, right. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: I think all this stuff you know what it is
Speaker 1: is Golf's like a world of like of pictures in
Speaker 1: your in your mind, and he created all these like
Speaker 1: great movies for himself early in his career at major
Speaker 1: championships where he's blown the field out. And then he
Speaker 1: had this era where he was pretty bad at majors
Speaker 1: for his standards obviously for a number of years, and
Speaker 1: I think it created a lot of scar tissue. Then
Speaker 1: he has this phase of close calls where yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gut wrenching losses, but he's in in the fight, you know,
Speaker 1: and you can take away if I keep giving myself chances,
Speaker 1: one of these is gonna get knocked down. And I
Speaker 1: think he's back into the mold of like I'm making
Speaker 1: great movies at majors again, even to the to the
Speaker 1: sense of like port Rush last year I think was
Speaker 1: like he came out of it positively. But this one,
Speaker 1: this one's got to feel better. It doesn't feel better
Speaker 1: than last year because of all the weight of last year.
Speaker 1: I think you walk out of this one feeling more
Speaker 1: confident than ever because you did it without your without
Speaker 1: your a game. Yeah, like did it without what everybody
Speaker 1: would say if you said Rory won this week, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, he just he just drove drove the
Speaker 1: shit out of the golf ball, and and he gave
Speaker 1: himself so many opportunities because of how well he drove
Speaker 1: the ball. Instead, it's like he drove the ball bad
Speaker 1: by his standards and everything else, his course management, his
Speaker 1: mental game, and is in his short game, and putting
Speaker 1: bailed him out.
Speaker 2: I think the wins at the Masters, like it frees
Speaker 2: him up. Obviously with this like once House of Horrors,
Speaker 2: that was Augusta, but like it frees him up the
Speaker 2: next time he faces a Pinehurst situation, right, Like it
Speaker 2: frees him up, like next time he's in the lead
Speaker 2: at a at a US Open or a PGA or whatever,
Speaker 2: like he's that's a different dynamic too, because it had
Speaker 2: been ten years. It had been so long, so I
Speaker 2: just it feels like he's he's dialing. I would go
Speaker 2: over seven and a half. I know you're trying to
Speaker 2: be cautiously not a prisoner of the moment. I think
Speaker 2: that's there. I feel like he's probably got like ten
Speaker 2: years of masters, yeah, like real master chances maybe more.
Speaker 2: I mean I ten you that's a lot and five
Speaker 2: minimum for all the others. That seems like a lot
Speaker 2: of chances to get one and a half.
Speaker 1: Side note, is the biggest loser today the PGA Tour
Speaker 1: because Rory felt like he was the most prepared for
Speaker 1: a major and he took three weeks off before it.
Speaker 1: It slipped under the radar.
Speaker 2: But like it's like, oh yeah, I'm not gonna take
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks off like hilton Head just nowhere,
Speaker 2: no chance, no chance, never was going to be a chance,
Speaker 2: Like tough scene for the signature at hilton Head.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's kind of entering this era
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, where you know the great man
Speaker 1: Justin Rose, who finished you know, a couple back.
Speaker 3: But he.
Speaker 1: This, he's entered this era almost where you know Justin Rose.
Speaker 1: Everything he's building his game is around the majors, and
Speaker 1: I foresee as Rory hits the next three to five
Speaker 1: years of his career, he will be doing everything to
Speaker 1: build his life around the four major championships and everything
Speaker 1: else will take a back seat. I you know what's
Speaker 1: a comfyback seat? Oh my god, go ahead, great job.
Speaker 2: I mean you just you win. You win today. I
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Speaker 4: Rory might not have had his a game, but that
Speaker 4: segue was a game segue, a game segue pretty good.
Speaker 1: Where do you want to who would you like to
Speaker 1: go to? Are we done with r We could talk
Speaker 1: more about Rory. Well, we're gonna have the boy. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have the boys come in. We're gonna have KBV
Speaker 1: come in in a second.
Speaker 2: The most emotional part, it was a very different Masters
Speaker 2: like the crowd on eighteen. He hit it to two inches,
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do. It was like this sort
Speaker 2: of I don't want to say it was like deflating
Speaker 2: it anyway. It just wasn't the really use of last year.
Speaker 2: And then the I'm not saying it was just the
Speaker 2: way it went down though, the sequencing. Certainly the most
Speaker 2: emotional the part was having his mom.
Speaker 1: And dad there, who were not there last year.
Speaker 2: He said they didn't want to come because they thought
Speaker 2: maybe one, which is a feels like an I were saying,
Speaker 2: could totally something I would subscribe to. Is like, well
Speaker 2: you won when I wasn't there, I'm not coming, We're
Speaker 2: not coming. He's like, I had to convince him to come,
Speaker 2: and they did and they got one. Uh saw his
Speaker 2: dad for many He's like, yeah, I figured i'd come
Speaker 2: and get one, you know, while I was here. That
Speaker 2: was certainly the most meaningful aspect I would think of
Speaker 2: this this masters.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's another aspect and we could
Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit later. Emphatically the best
Speaker 1: European golfer of all time emphatically, I think so I
Speaker 1: would agree with you. The other contenders would be Sevvy
Speaker 1: by Asteros and Nick Felt. Nick Faldough, I think you
Speaker 1: know the whole totality, the longevity, and you know, knowing
Speaker 1: you've got you've got probably seven really good years in
Speaker 1: the tank. Left turns thirty seven next month. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think you've got You look at that, he's
Speaker 1: he's emphatically the best European golfer of all time. And
Speaker 1: then you start to look at this list. Man, you
Speaker 1: start to look at the major list, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I said a very you know, conservative over under. But
Speaker 1: if he gets to nine, if he gets to nine majors,
Speaker 1: the only people ahead of him in the game, and
Speaker 1: he's doing it in a very competitive era are Jack
Speaker 1: Tiger and Walter Hagen are the only ones that have
Speaker 1: more majors than him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's on, like like he the Watson
Speaker 2: and maybe Gary player eyesight, you know, in the trajectory
Speaker 2: at this point, and.
Speaker 1: You think about the way, ironically, the crazy thing about
Speaker 1: his career was like he's gone from like where he's
Speaker 1: like a PGA hunter and it's like, Okay, the PGA
Speaker 1: is the best major for him? Is the PGA this
Speaker 1: major that sets up the worst for.
Speaker 2: Him now because it condenses people can catch his separating
Speaker 2: powers more easily. I think another motivating factor, not a
Speaker 2: motivating I think it would be sweet. I don't want
Speaker 2: to I'm not in his head. I think it would
Speaker 2: be nice for him, probably personally to pass Phil Mickelson.
Speaker 2: I think that would be like, you know, another modern great.
Speaker 2: I think he's probably happy that hopefully Phil will be
Speaker 2: able to be at the Champions there next year, that
Speaker 2: he'll be hosting. I think he, you know, wanted them,
Speaker 2: wanted him and Tiger there this year, and now I'll
Speaker 2: get another chance at it.
Speaker 1: Who knows what may.
Speaker 2: Happen last year, but I think I think it'd be
Speaker 2: you know, passing Phil would be meaningful to him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's some motivation too with what
Speaker 1: Scotty's done. Yeah, I mean Scotty here in a minute,
Speaker 1: you know, like he Scotty's sitting there at or now,
Speaker 1: you know, getting that extra major out out ahead of him.
Speaker 1: But you know, he has to feel like I think
Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of him, especially you know, the
Speaker 1: end of last year. It's like, God, this guy's barreling
Speaker 1: down on me.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to say probably, but certainly a
Speaker 2: very good candidate to join the.
Speaker 1: Slam Club unless he stops him. He's the USO. Well
Speaker 1: maybe this year, but yeah, you know, we didn't have time. Candidly,
Speaker 1: we didn't have time to make our our storylines nobody
Speaker 1: talked talked about. But yeah, it would bring us to
Speaker 1: a storyline nobody that nobody's talking about. I heard there's
Speaker 1: public outcry about about the police, the police force. What happened.
Speaker 1: They couldn't they couldn't bring the racketeer in case home,
Speaker 1: a repeat repeat offender, a menace to society, menace to
Speaker 1: the fair police. Ry McElroy skirts away for you know,
Speaker 1: slips through the hands of Sheriff Scottie and Deputy Sad.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll go even further. I think Sam Birds
Speaker 4: arrested the wrong irishman today. He just completely he he
Speaker 4: was like, oh he's gotten k accent and just went
Speaker 4: after him and threw him in the brink, I mean
Speaker 4: immediately and thought he got his guy.
Speaker 2: Look, it was a complicated day of figuring out where
Speaker 2: to go. It was nice of nice of Sam and
Speaker 2: Shane to excuse themselves from the proceedings. At least there
Speaker 2: was one less like group. We had to toggle between Rory.
Speaker 2: I mean Rory was I mean the man crimes against fairness,
Speaker 2: all the way to the eighteenth where he's you know,
Speaker 2: so far right, he's going up in the round.
Speaker 1: Scotty. If Scotty went home every night, I could see
Speaker 1: Scotty doing this, going home every night and watch the
Speaker 1: shot by shots of Rory. He's he's always not come on.
Speaker 1: He would have seen a lot of petty theft, a
Speaker 1: lot of petty theft.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get. He said it wasn't equal. He said
Speaker 2: the conditions weren't equal. The birdies that were available on
Speaker 2: Friday afternoon worked for him on Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Just I yeah, he went out there and said it.
Speaker 1: I'd like to let's plasn't been a rare It's been
Speaker 1: a real rare failure of the police department in recent
Speaker 1: recent years, Golf's police department. Police couldn't get the couldn't
Speaker 1: get the offender and cuffs.
Speaker 2: Uh should we go to cam Where do you want
Speaker 2: to go next? I was gonna talk about Cameron Young
Speaker 2: for a minute. He got a lot of good breaks
Speaker 2: off of trees. He got it off of three again,
Speaker 2: kind of the the matumba block into the black into play.
Speaker 2: He got it a bunch, you know, on Saturday at
Speaker 2: seventeen and thirteen amazing, like par save at five and
Speaker 2: then just like was was shaky from there on out
Speaker 2: after after five was really quite shaky, I thought.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he handled the moment pretty well totally.
Speaker 1: Was he definitely didn't like just blow up or gag away.
Speaker 3: He was in.
Speaker 1: It was scary. He's such a guy that went out
Speaker 1: first nine of the tournament shot forty and then he
Speaker 1: comes back and he's he's leading leading the tournament on
Speaker 1: the on the you know, on the first nine of Sunday,
Speaker 1: and really like I think he played Teeter Green well
Speaker 1: enough on the on the back nine to win this thing.
Speaker 1: He just didn't make any putts. Yeah, like he he
Speaker 1: hit the shots he needed to hit, you know, you
Speaker 1: think about he had a really good look on ten.
Speaker 1: He had a really good look on eleven. For how
Speaker 1: hard eleven is. He had a great look on twelve,
Speaker 1: He had a great look. On thirteen. He had a
Speaker 1: you know, a really great opportunity on fifteen. They didn't
Speaker 1: cash in. He had a good he had sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: He was pinned high. I mean, the guy played great golf.
Speaker 2: Rory did put a little bit of a pin in
Speaker 2: the Boys balloon, saying it would be a more comfortable
Speaker 2: pairing this this Sunday compared to Bryson last year. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say that's like, I don't think he was intent
Speaker 2: he was dogging Cam. He just felt probably a little
Speaker 2: more comfortable.
Speaker 1: You know what. I liked about Cam the boys.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the boys. The Boys may not
Speaker 2: have appreciated that.
Speaker 1: You know, I loved about Cam here real quick? What
Speaker 1: so that I think people wanted to get like another
Speaker 1: quote about like how Rory didn't talk to talk to
Speaker 1: him and Cam Cam goes he said something along the lines.
Speaker 1: I can't find it here. I didn't mark it. But uh,
Speaker 1: I don't do it. I don't really I.
Speaker 4: Don't really talk much either. I'm not I'm not one
Speaker 4: to talk to him to begin with. I don't think
Speaker 4: he really wanted to talk to me today Sunday and
Speaker 4: the Masters in the final group, you know, don't wish
Speaker 4: anything poorly on the guy, but we're playing against each other,
Speaker 4: not trying to be best friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think the reporter was trying to
Speaker 1: get like something similar to bryceon and Cam's like I
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk to him. Bryceon a little diaperte. Also,
Speaker 1: I loved, you know, somebody a reporter at that point,
Speaker 1: the reporters that were in the pool. For the most part,
Speaker 1: I don't think really watched the golf that we're asking
Speaker 1: the questions.
Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't read Cam's transcript so anyway, but I
Speaker 2: did watch the golf.
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody suggested that he wasn't being aggressive enough. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: what does that mean because he didn't make eight birdie that.
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, but I mean, how much closer do
Speaker 1: you want me to hit it that I did on
Speaker 1: the back nine? Want me to aim right right on twelve?
Speaker 1: Just one of those. I think the shots are pretty obvious,
Speaker 1: and I hit a lot of them. I just didn't
Speaker 1: make anything. I thought Cam played great golf on the
Speaker 1: back nine. I you know, you could play this. You
Speaker 1: could replay the the that that back nine a couple
Speaker 1: of times and Cam Cam probably comes out on top
Speaker 1: thirty percent of the time. Yeah, Like he hit the shots,
Speaker 1: he didn't make the putts, And it comes down to you.
Speaker 1: Golf usually reveals your weaknesses. And I know he's spent
Speaker 1: a great putter, but this is gonna Everybody has their
Speaker 1: little kryptonite of getting over there, over the hump, And
Speaker 1: it took Cam a long time to get over the
Speaker 1: hump in a regular tour event because the putter held
Speaker 1: him back. Yeah, we've seen him, the putter hold him
Speaker 1: back in majors and it looked like it is solved.
Speaker 1: But like this is the gravity of today was huge.
Speaker 1: And as much as he downplayed, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel much different.
Speaker 3: You just.
Speaker 1: Some It was not like he choked or anything.
Speaker 2: No, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He just didn't get it done, didn't She was seventy eight.
Speaker 1: There was none of that.
Speaker 4: I will say. I mean, I know you just brought
Speaker 4: up the quote like, did you feel any different three
Speaker 4: years ago? He said, yes, even a year ago a
Speaker 4: little bit. I mean for on the front nine, even
Speaker 4: a year ago. Is it death now? It was it
Speaker 4: would be over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll say I gotta say, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry your boy didn't get it done for you,
Speaker 1: both spiritually and financially. It happens a good chunk of
Speaker 1: change was going to come your way. If it's going
Speaker 1: to be this is going to be you know, wind
Speaker 1: windfall that probably would have changed your short term life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Looking at a GLS.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's okay.
Speaker 4: I actually made that joke Handy this morning.
Speaker 2: One of the coolest scenes. I went to the range
Speaker 2: before they teed off, and usually the range like it's
Speaker 2: kind of meh, like it's just guys hitting balls and
Speaker 2: you don't know what you get and you probably overinflate
Speaker 2: the moment. I like watched it. It's incredible to think about,
Speaker 2: like your dad is your coach, but he's also your dad.
Speaker 3: Does that?
Speaker 2: I know that sounds so simplistic, but to think about,
Speaker 2: like your on is about to play the fun around
Speaker 2: the Masters, but you also have to be the coach.
Speaker 2: And he's on the range with him, and he was
Speaker 2: watching like he would watch Rory hit, and then he
Speaker 2: go back to his son, who is still his son,
Speaker 2: like I hate to be so Like it's incredible this
Speaker 2: double duty he had. And his mom was up above
Speaker 2: and like you're like the pieces pieces of your parents, right,
Speaker 2: Like his mom has his countenance, like the face and
Speaker 2: like the deadpan cam like I don't talk much deal
Speaker 2: and like his dad, he obviously gets the golf game
Speaker 2: from his dad or parts of the golf game and
Speaker 2: its instruction. I think his mom's a very good player,
Speaker 2: really good player too, and like you're these pieces of
Speaker 2: your parents, And it was just fascinating to watch his
Speaker 2: dad then out on the course, like he hits it
Speaker 2: on thirteen and that like maybe was going to go
Speaker 2: down into the tribute his dad, like it stopped and
Speaker 2: his dad like gulped because all of a sudden, his
Speaker 2: dad goes from coach on the range to dad in
Speaker 2: in the cigar, smoke with and Schmutz with everybody else.
Speaker 2: Why And he walked the hole as far as I
Speaker 2: every day he walked the whole deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and every day he walked the whole deal.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: And they were both at the far end. Rory and
Speaker 2: Cam stayed till the end, and it was like if
Speaker 2: you were golf sick of it was like incredible. At
Speaker 2: one point they were both hitting driver and Kim was
Speaker 2: kind of coming across the range, like hitting from the
Speaker 2: farthest left across the range, and Rory was hitting his draw,
Speaker 2: working on a draw, and like they were on the
Speaker 2: same cadence and and it was like this perfectly blue sky.
Speaker 2: I'm not being corny about this. Like their balls like
Speaker 2: almost like kissed and crossed, and they were the only
Speaker 2: two players on the range. It was dead silent and
Speaker 2: literally the whole world, like the entire world waiting on
Speaker 2: the other side, in like fifteen minutes, and the balls
Speaker 2: like kissed and were they were on the same cadence.
Speaker 2: It was an incredible scene. I was like with his
Speaker 2: dad there watching him.
Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing about these extreme high stakes golf tournaments.
Speaker 1: And Patrick Reed spoke about it in the in the
Speaker 1: lead up to the tournament, the thing he missed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Masters, it's just ramped up, and you know, the
Speaker 1: whole week, there's so many people around, so many people
Speaker 1: on the range, and then on Saturday and Sunday it's
Speaker 1: just like the last two guys and it's Cam and Rory.
Speaker 1: Last year it was Rory and Bryson, and there's just
Speaker 1: like when you sit and watch the range, there's just
Speaker 1: like this this gravity to the moment where you'll it was.
Speaker 2: It was amazing and just to think like that's also
Speaker 2: his dad is now going to watch his kid go
Speaker 2: play the Masters. It was really powerful.
Speaker 4: While we're on Parents, Can I give you my nominee
Speaker 4: for Quote of the Day Award?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Is it from Jerry or something?
Speaker 4: It's not. It's relating to the to the young parents.
Speaker 4: Uh cam Cam comes through the whole tunnel of love
Speaker 4: before Rory does, and the first scoring no after goes
Speaker 4: to scoring. He's walking with his wife. They passed through.
Speaker 4: His mom is is coming behind them, a couple of
Speaker 4: steps behind. She was walking all week with like one
Speaker 4: of those chairs that you PLoP down or whatever, and
Speaker 4: some moron just yells, good job, Dottie, happy for you
Speaker 4: at missus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she still carries the folding chair that it was
Speaker 2: kind of she had to ask what time it was
Speaker 2: on the range. She asked somebody else what time it was.
Speaker 2: Brentley made the joke.
Speaker 4: But they thought they thought she was Donnie Pepper. I
Speaker 4: just wanted to make that. God, I was like stunned
Speaker 4: in disbelief that that.
Speaker 1: I think it happened more than once. It happened while
Speaker 1: she was Honestly, it happened. It happened while she was
Speaker 1: walking in to scoring.
Speaker 4: That's what I just said.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought you were saying somewhere else. And
Speaker 1: obviously obviously Rory's pieces of his.
Speaker 2: Parents too, like his father, Eternal Optimists and his work.
Speaker 2: I think his mom all these things. It was just
Speaker 2: it was interesting to watch the two of them watch
Speaker 2: their son get ready, should we go to someone else?
Speaker 1: Camp Cam gets the seven top tens in nineteen nineteen majors.
Speaker 1: Now got it. He's knock on the door. It's going
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 2: God, hold, this is every skills, all the skills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be there. Iron I mink he
Speaker 1: should be on the shortlist for uh Rose Rose anything
Speaker 1: we want to talk about with Justin Rose.
Speaker 2: We certainly hit on him, like he got uncomfortable in
Speaker 2: the wind. I'll say his shot on seven low key
Speaker 2: like shot of the tournament. That another one that will
Speaker 2: be forgotten, like absolute cut from Lamanya was there. He
Speaker 2: can probably come in. He was like right behind him
Speaker 2: when he will talk about like shot of the tournament,
Speaker 2: the side spin just whipping down seven gets ripped a
Speaker 2: lot as like maybe the weakest hole out there and
Speaker 2: is now reduced again to dry almost the drive, which
Speaker 2: was what it was originally.
Speaker 1: And it's good that they moved the t back one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards and in the original attent of
Speaker 1: Mackenzie's been with we're back now, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: golf Ballah, here we go. Yeah, it was but watching shots.
Speaker 2: Frequently there in those approaches is amazing. That was one
Speaker 2: of the great shots of the weekend. That that side spin.
Speaker 2: I don't have much else.
Speaker 1: The good Man Rose. Yeah, a lion, a real line,
Speaker 1: much more of a lion than Jay Day. I gotta apologize.
Speaker 1: You know, PJ worked me in a tizzy last night.
Speaker 1: And because because of his Jason Day slants.
Speaker 4: How this works, folks, I'm getting blamed for the bad takes.
Speaker 1: Well, no, because of your Jason Day slander. I just
Speaker 1: I just said, roses pretenders. I did lash out because
Speaker 1: I was I was. I was frustrated with your with
Speaker 1: your Jason Day slander.
Speaker 4: And do we want to talk about that?
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to talk about that.
Speaker 4: I think the lion, I think Joseph. When Joseph comes in,
Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: The lion was out rowing around.
Speaker 2: You know, it was awesome. Bertie Birdie Birdie eight nine seven.
Speaker 1: He's he's ageless. I don't know how many I don't
Speaker 1: know how he can keep getting into the man. He'll
Speaker 1: be forty six at next year's Masters. I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, last year, this year, I have a hard time.
Speaker 1: I think these were two shots. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: I think he's going to join the list of like
Speaker 1: snake bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably fair. I just but god, what a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk and we're gonna get to Sergio,
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to his ass in a minute. But
Speaker 2: you talk about like the same age, same contemporary, the
Speaker 2: guy who won in seventeen, the guy who lost in
Speaker 2: the playoff, and Sergio who's just been na just irrelevant
Speaker 2: at the Master since he won, and Rose just keeps
Speaker 2: coming back and keeps coming back and keeps coming back.
Speaker 2: Could have gone in two very different directions, or Sergio
Speaker 2: did not do this the ry rout of coming back
Speaker 2: to the well. But yeah, you think he's done in
Speaker 2: terms of this kind of opportunity.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the best press conference anecdotes that
Speaker 1: I had from today is Adam Scott, obviously contemporary, someone
Speaker 1: who's played against j R. For years. Somebody asked change
Speaker 1: his subject briefly, this will be my last question. What
Speaker 1: is it like to play with Justin now? What's it
Speaker 1: like to play with him? What's he like to play alongside?
Speaker 1: And Adam Scott said, I think that he's quite an
Speaker 1: intense competitor. Justin I don't think anyone should be surprised
Speaker 1: by that, given his showing again this week, his showing
Speaker 1: here last year. He's a very focused, intense competitor. So
Speaker 1: having spent my whole career kind of alongside each other,
Speaker 1: I'm saying this as a compliment that he's still so focused,
Speaker 1: maybe from the outside looking in a little bit even
Speaker 1: more focused than ever actually at this point in his career.
Speaker 1: And then they said, what about like his golf does
Speaker 1: he do well? Well, he's calculated. I think he really
Speaker 1: knows his own tendencies well and he plays around them
Speaker 1: all to his advantage.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think he's been very meticulous and about the way
Speaker 1: he's built his game. I would say probably for the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years, but certainly the last couple. I think
Speaker 1: there's been a very narrowed focus and he's very meticulous
Speaker 1: about things. The thing that I found most interesting, and
Speaker 1: I think this is so true, the calculation. I think
Speaker 1: Justin Rose like he understands like this tournament and when
Speaker 1: he needs to make moves and what he has to
Speaker 1: do and when he has to take things on and
Speaker 1: what like the key he has just this like he
Speaker 1: seems to hit the right shot at all the right times,
Speaker 1: and today we didn't see really anybody coming down the stretch. Like,
Speaker 1: I think he knew he had to take on thirteen,
Speaker 1: and I think he knew he had to make an eagle.
Speaker 1: He hit the shot, He hit the shot, and then
Speaker 1: he gave the eagle a real run. Yeah, Like he
Speaker 1: wanted the eagle, and I think he knew he needed
Speaker 1: the eagle there, he needed the eagle, and he went
Speaker 1: for the win and it didn't happen. But I I
Speaker 1: think he's like I walk away from this and he's not.
Speaker 1: I don't. He's for sure the not the most talented.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 1: He has earned his place in the game by hard work.
Speaker 1: He gained speed in the early twenty tens, like, and
Speaker 1: he's gone about managing his body, managing his game. But
Speaker 1: he wins and he gets in the mix because he
Speaker 1: just he gets himself ready for the tournament physically and
Speaker 1: with the golf swing. But then he just has this
Speaker 1: incredible pulse and he knows what he has to do
Speaker 1: to get to win. He needs to get to and
Speaker 1: I think today like he went for it, and really,
Speaker 1: like you know, you look at this round the three
Speaker 1: putt killed him killed, but he needed the eagle there
Speaker 1: to win. He did need the eagle.
Speaker 2: He talked about the second shot on eleven really kind
Speaker 2: of put him on the fritz. That was deep, like
Speaker 2: super deep, and that was really when he started struggling
Speaker 2: with the wind. We should get to the sheriff.
Speaker 1: Should we bring in everybody.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the sheriff real quick well, which will
Speaker 2: transition us to a golf course chat and bring everybody in.
Speaker 2: Incredible birdie three puts two, goes long on eight and
Speaker 2: makes a run, makes a run, he said, you know,
Speaker 2: repeatedly in his press conference. You know, look, I was
Speaker 2: twelve shots back. I think I did pretty well. I
Speaker 2: end up going out at twelve shots back at the weekend.
Speaker 2: Everything that was done was done in the first two days.
Speaker 2: I think it would have been nice, you know, I
Speaker 2: think I did pretty well to be one shot out.
Speaker 2: A lot of golf course talk, and we'll get to
Speaker 2: it in a second. I'm not in charge of course setup,
Speaker 2: he said. I would have liked it. Who have been
Speaker 2: a little bit more and this is where the sirens
Speaker 2: start blazing a little bit more equal in terms of
Speaker 2: the firmness on Thursday and Friday. I was a bit
Speaker 2: surprised at how soft things were on Friday afternoon, especially
Speaker 2: as it got late in the day. But the weather
Speaker 2: also changes a bit, and it was windy on Thursday,
Speaker 2: So who knows. We play an outdoor sport. And he
Speaker 2: spoke about just getting the wrong side he did the draw.
Speaker 1: It's a true story. He got the wrong side of
Speaker 1: the draw. But isn't that just how they It's it's
Speaker 1: how golf works. And I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: he said later in his interview session. Listen, like what
Speaker 1: costume was shooting two over on the easiest day. He
Speaker 1: goes out no win soft golf course and he shoots.
Speaker 2: Two over Friday. Probably hurt the most in terms of
Speaker 2: my chances of winning. Yeah, that's what he said, And
Speaker 2: I think like that at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like he he just did not he didn't make enough putts.
Speaker 2: He hit a lot of great shots.
Speaker 1: You know, yesterday he almost he almost ended Jason Sible's
Speaker 1: career when he said it was a dumb question, then
Speaker 1: later and then later then backtracked. Probably probably not that
Speaker 1: bad of a question. But of course the only thing
Speaker 1: that got aggregated was that's a stupid question. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I you know, listen, like he uh, he's
Speaker 1: got an amazing he's gonna win more of these, and
Speaker 1: he's got an amazing knack for just being around. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think he probably walks away from this
Speaker 1: feeling much like Rory I almost won this thing with
Speaker 1: my Beers.
Speaker 2: Game right right, one shot out yea. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think this we're taking any kind of alarming sort
Speaker 2: of extrapolation from his week at all with anything, or
Speaker 2: just like he's still maybe the scariest dude in the sport.
Speaker 2: Is probably how we come away from this week.
Speaker 1: It's it, I mean, the Rory Scotty kind of one
Speaker 1: two gets more interesting after this. I think you probably
Speaker 1: still have or Scotty out out in front. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's close. And I think this year, probably,
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I think Rory's probably going
Speaker 1: to handle the three majors after this win, probably better
Speaker 1: than he handled the last ones. Is you know, it
Speaker 1: seemed like he kind of gotten a funk of like
Speaker 1: he accomplished such a huge thing, and you know it's
Speaker 1: like kind of like I think this year is you're
Speaker 1: going to see a more focused and sharp Rory at
Speaker 1: the next three major.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Rory and Scotty, a golf course setup that
Speaker 2: has Rory solo first and Scotty's solo second. Well, now
Speaker 2: you're doing the Valhalla thing, the good leaderboard. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: did it last night. Look, there was a lot of
Speaker 2: hollering about the I think people maybe we used dollar
Speaker 2: ammo on Saturday.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: I don't want to repeat myself. This felt like a
Speaker 2: very simplistic, simplistic line of thinking that was sort of
Speaker 2: devoid of critical thought and just you shrouded in like
Speaker 2: statistics as like a safety net. And I think like
Speaker 2: what you saw on Thursday night, like or Thursday you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's firm. It just needs to get incrementally harder from
Speaker 2: here on out because it's not going to rain. And
Speaker 2: then there were some low scores on Saturday. It's just
Speaker 2: every single player. You have to just listen to the players.
Speaker 2: This is as firm as it's ever been. The greens
Speaker 2: are purple, the greens are the greens are a different
Speaker 2: shade of purple and brown. This is as firm as
Speaker 2: it's ever been. They were at the edge on Thursday.
Speaker 2: I think it yielded like you were getting punished if
Speaker 2: you hit poor shots. It wasn't like dartboard drive. It
Speaker 2: wedge it and it sticks, you know, and it sticks
Speaker 2: right there and rolls back a foot. None of that
Speaker 2: was happening. I thought Jordan's beef put it quick quite well.
Speaker 2: He said the holes that greens need to be softer
Speaker 2: are softer, and then it was let go on the others.
Speaker 2: This is a Sunday setup like it was on Thursday.
Speaker 2: You can't have it like Thursday with where the pins
Speaker 2: are on six down wind and stuff like that. So
Speaker 2: they have it at a playable spot, but you have
Speaker 2: differences in how firm some of the greens are compared
Speaker 2: to others, and you just trust that they know what
Speaker 2: they're doing, which is easier to trust here than anywhere else.
Speaker 2: I think Augusta Nashal is like pretty big on championship
Speaker 2: golf and championship tournament conditions, and you do have to
Speaker 2: trust them. I don't blind deference to them at all.
Speaker 2: It just felt like the narrative that set in it
Speaker 2: was aggregated everywhere. There's Golf Digest article about it, just
Speaker 2: like they went soft and drenched the greens like drenched.
Speaker 2: Nothing was drenched here, I mean just wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 2: critical thinking you were just over indexing on Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 2: I'm not an agronomy expert. I would say that I
Speaker 2: probably understand agronomy a little bit more than most golf
Speaker 2: writers or.
Speaker 1: Golf media folks do. But I think the reality there's
Speaker 1: also a dynamic of what the Masters is. The Masters
Speaker 1: is the tournament where people go can go get it
Speaker 1: and the race like you still, you saw that dynamic
Speaker 1: on Saturday and Friday, and the weather was really dry.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by dry is like when there's
Speaker 1: no humidity, the greens can get really firm, really fast
Speaker 1: if there's wind. And I think Thursday, I'm I'm certain
Speaker 1: that the golf made the green jackets a little uncomfortable
Speaker 1: for the rest of the week. Like I think they
Speaker 1: were uncomfortable with where the golf course got on Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 1: So yes, they put water down on Friday morning, but
Speaker 1: that was water down to protect in case it got windy,
Speaker 1: which you don't know. If it got windy on those days,
Speaker 1: you would have seen really firm greens in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: but it didn't. And this is exactly like when the
Speaker 1: USGA has lost Shinnecock. This is exactly the equation low
Speaker 1: humidity days where the breeze picks up and then the
Speaker 1: greens get too firm. So you have this dynamic of
Speaker 1: we have to put water down in case the weather
Speaker 1: forecast change. You can't. Yeah, the weather look forecast looked
Speaker 1: great all week and you had like but if that changes,
Speaker 1: you can't lose the golf course. Like at the horror
Speaker 1: of what you're trying to do, you you want the
Speaker 1: golf course, and especially their golf course is always going
Speaker 1: to be a part. We see the golf course play
Speaker 1: a huge role, whether it's soft or whether it's firm.
Speaker 1: But like, you can't have the golf course and you
Speaker 1: losing it be the number one story. And the line
Speaker 1: is more narrow, and I think, like what people don't realize,
Speaker 1: and I think where like some of this comes from.
Speaker 1: It was also hot, so the ball was going really far,
Speaker 1: and the ball stops when you're hitting a lob wedge,
Speaker 1: it just does. And and these guys were hitting lob
Speaker 1: wedges into everywhere. I mean, Rory hit a six iron
Speaker 1: into eight today. That is a monster hole uphill I
Speaker 1: think it is it five to eighty uphill. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: hit a six iron into the green. Okay, so the
Speaker 1: ball has gotten completely the ball and equipment have gotten
Speaker 1: completely out of control, where like fourteen to padri and
Speaker 1: pitch drive in pitch hole and so you're hitting these
Speaker 1: short clubs in so yeah, but like when you see
Speaker 1: them hit longer clubs in like today with like six
Speaker 1: down wind was just like it was a nobody could
Speaker 1: hit the top portion fifteen down wind today it was
Speaker 1: incredibly hard to Like, Cameron Young hits the ball as
Speaker 1: high as anybody in the world outside of maybe Rory
Speaker 1: and pent Marco Penji. But he hits the ball, he
Speaker 1: hits towering iron shots and I'm fifteen. He can't hold
Speaker 1: the green. So today you get wind and the greens
Speaker 1: get firm and nobody complains. Yesterday you don't get wind
Speaker 1: and people complain. And the day before you don't get wind,
Speaker 1: so people complain. But like this is not but you
Speaker 1: can't just you don't just set like there's not like
Speaker 1: some little like button that you set. And that's what
Speaker 1: it gets to be all day long.
Speaker 2: Thought, it's complaining without proposal of any kind of alternative.
Speaker 1: Complaining from people that aren't out watching golf shots actually
Speaker 1: like land and react and hear the sound that they're
Speaker 1: making on the green. The winner shot seventy three seventy
Speaker 1: one on the weekend, Like, okay, you've complained.
Speaker 2: What did you want? You wanted to shoot seventy you
Speaker 2: wanted all eighties? Like did you want where? Did you
Speaker 2: want the pins? What is your proposal? What is your alternative?
Speaker 2: I think we would be all over it if it
Speaker 2: went like if they were super soft and this was
Speaker 2: a disgrace and this wasn't what we want from Augusta,
Speaker 2: we would absolutely shout out about it. I think it's
Speaker 2: just they saw the forecast no rain. Everybody needs to
Speaker 2: shoot eighty this week because it's not raining, and like,
Speaker 2: there's no alternative proposal other than to shout and holler
Speaker 2: about it being like not as hard as you want it.
Speaker 2: There's no actual realistic counter.
Speaker 1: Anyways, seventy three seventy one was enough to get it
Speaker 1: done on the weekend and thirteen and they had their
Speaker 1: their bite back.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: They could have probably pushed it a little bit more. Okay, Friday,
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, you might have been able to push
Speaker 1: it a little bit more. But again it just illuminates
Speaker 1: and this goes back to Chairman Reley's uh you know
Speaker 1: first or is press conference. It illuminates the issue with
Speaker 1: the ball. Yes, Scotty Shuffler covered the bunkers on one
Speaker 1: today that he's a middle of the road hitter like
Speaker 1: like hep. These guys are hitting wedges into one to everything.
Speaker 2: That's to make the complaint that Augusta went soft and
Speaker 2: just not bringing up the ball in relation to how
Speaker 2: they are driving it to wedge distance on these what
Speaker 2: are supposed to be these beefy part fours. Is that
Speaker 2: is the bigger problem. And I know people say we're
Speaker 2: sitting from the same hymn sheet ball blaming the ball.
Speaker 2: Open your eyes, like that's that's what? Where is the
Speaker 2: needle you want to thread when they have to wedd
Speaker 2: What do you want the course to be when they
Speaker 2: are when they're hitting it that far? What do you
Speaker 2: how do you want them to shoot eighty?
Speaker 1: Well, I just don't know how you you can get
Speaker 1: greens like when you're just hitting wedges in. But then
Speaker 1: like the problem is they're hitting wedges into all these
Speaker 1: par fours. But if you get all the greens super firm.
Speaker 1: Then people would complain that fifteen's unhittable, right and thirteen's unhittable.
Speaker 2: Or it's just you can't go for it, no go,
Speaker 2: And the drive on thirteen has never felt more consequential now,
Speaker 2: So it's interesting. I mean, Scotty hit a good drive
Speaker 2: there and had no chance to get to go to
Speaker 2: the green. Rory has an eight iron like it just
Speaker 2: like shot shape seems to matter. I'm not saying Scotty
Speaker 2: had a great like his best drive ever, but like
Speaker 2: he was miles away, didn't even pretend to go for
Speaker 2: the green thirteen. Rory got his shaped a little bit
Speaker 2: and has it. I think he said eight iron. Did
Speaker 2: you say eight iron? I think it'd like that's a
Speaker 2: that's a really consequential drive again, you know, as maybe
Speaker 2: they weren't always even him driver a few years ago.
Speaker 2: All right, that's the course. Why one more thing to
Speaker 2: support your uh, support your European greatest European golfer of
Speaker 2: all time, Luke Donald, who knows. I think he's a
Speaker 2: pretty contemplative voice.
Speaker 1: So we did.
Speaker 2: Tyne Sevy with two green jackets will mean a lot
Speaker 2: to Rory. He is undoubtedly the best European golfer of
Speaker 2: all time. Now, so you said emphatically, Luke donald says,
Speaker 2: undoubtedly the best European golfer of all time. So a
Speaker 2: lot of consequential golf was played today. We bring in
Speaker 2: the crew. Let's bring in the crew.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about, Uh, who do we wanna talk about?
Speaker 2: How Ton Lee? What are we bringing in the relief
Speaker 2: pictures to talk about how Ton kV V and Joseph
Speaker 2: Biden Read them in the newsletter? Read them in the newsletter.
Speaker 2: Kevin's got a feature piece coming on the day, probably
Speaker 2: on Rory maybe maybe just decided to hard left turn.
Speaker 2: I saw Joseph. I saw Joseph on nine Green. I
Speaker 2: walked up, first time i'd seen him day. I said,
Speaker 2: these are the four scariest words in sports. Here comes
Speaker 2: Russell Henley because he had taken the lead. Mama. I
Speaker 2: was like, you're in trouble now, baby. Henley's on the move.
Speaker 1: Kevin, Hey, peach, did you hear the big news?
Speaker 4: What it's the big news?
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to interlude here,
Speaker 1: but I figured i'd sneak it in what is the
Speaker 1: big news? Well? Wne, I I did. I was going
Speaker 1: to bring this up to you.
Speaker 4: I was going to bring this up to you. That's big.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give Joseph time to get in.
Speaker 1: He was moving like an old man.
Speaker 4: It's okay, it's fine.
Speaker 1: I knew we got the boys cam. Do we have
Speaker 1: the boys?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: We got boys cam live.
Speaker 3: Are the Boys getting old again?
Speaker 1: From just sting out there walking thirty six? The boys
Speaker 1: thought the leader, they thought they could be out here.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be out here.
Speaker 4: I think I think we did already.
Speaker 1: Boys. I mean, he let you guys kick this off here.
Speaker 1: Did you? Were you guys surprised by Jason Dave's performances today,
Speaker 1: because I was, no.
Speaker 5: No, not surprised.
Speaker 6: I only take a little bit of offense to you
Speaker 6: saying that we weren't Dolph fans back when Jason David
Speaker 6: was good.
Speaker 5: We remember Jason Day being good, and you know what.
Speaker 4: It was kind of a long time we go ten
Speaker 4: years actually, is what I was.
Speaker 3: It's gonna fly. Someday people will be the next version
Speaker 3: of the Boys. We'll be talking to you guys about
Speaker 3: what's Roy mack will I.
Speaker 1: Like, like, you know what, imagine imagine eight years from now,
Speaker 1: you're people. There's gonna be young pups that are gonna
Speaker 1: be like, you know, Cameron Young sucks and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to eat it.
Speaker 3: I mean, braids blown is the greatest player of all time.
Speaker 3: You're about to be a knowwer, You're gonna have to This.
Speaker 1: Is really like a full circle.
Speaker 2: Like I kind of got into this in like fourteen
Speaker 2: when went on his run like that, Like I convinced
Speaker 2: me to like I really want to do golf for
Speaker 2: a living, but like, golf is what I want to do.
Speaker 2: I love writing about this guy winning majors. And now
Speaker 2: we got the boys on a similar event with Cam
Speaker 2: the winning players championships and being in the fight, and
Speaker 2: here we are, you know, twelve years later.
Speaker 4: It's fine, it's fine. You know he played well. I
Speaker 4: don't want to do you have any camp takes?
Speaker 5: No, I have a Seene Lowry take, which is shot.
Speaker 6: Now shot one hundred and sixty one on Sundays over
Speaker 6: the last two over the last.
Speaker 4: Year to eighty eighty versus the eighty one last year
Speaker 4: when he was pissed off that everybody's just asking him
Speaker 4: about Rory Shane Lowry speaking of things that happened ten
Speaker 4: years ago, Shane Lowry in the United States by himself.
Speaker 4: It's been ten years. You really don't like I just
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm He's a world class player, according to
Speaker 4: the media, did.
Speaker 3: You hear Roryd's quote, yeah, presser now. He said he
Speaker 3: was looking to asking if you were looking at scoreboards
Speaker 3: throughout the day, and he was like, yeah, I was
Speaker 3: looking up and I was going to see if how
Speaker 3: Shane was doing, because I thought, you know, it makes
Speaker 3: me feel good if I put the jacket on Shane.
Speaker 3: If I wasn't gonna win it.
Speaker 4: I was like, were taking Shane Lowry down?
Speaker 3: Shane shooting forty one on the front or whatever.
Speaker 1: I couldn't have been locked real.
Speaker 4: Long because he was up there until Shane Lowry was
Speaker 4: on the thirteenth green looking at the scoreboard behind fourteen
Speaker 4: T and that's when they took him down.
Speaker 1: Hey, Joseph, I got I gotta ask you a question
Speaker 1: from at six one, two six eight. How was downtown Augusta.
Speaker 5: We didn't really make it.
Speaker 2: Knot room we wanted.
Speaker 1: I'd say, we want too much to downtown.
Speaker 6: Not as cool as downtown Port Rush, but it's up there.
Speaker 2: Love that love that. keV Early reactions or immediate reactions
Speaker 2: the day we will read your piece in the morning
Speaker 2: or even this evening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, you guys touched on it
Speaker 3: a lot. But this to me just represents like the
Speaker 3: evolution of Rory McElroy the thinker. Like obviously that was
Speaker 3: coming over time, but you know, he didn't have to
Speaker 3: rely on like these prodigious gifts that had always kind
Speaker 3: of given him this kind of aura, right, this ethereal
Speaker 3: quality of who he was as a player. This was gritty,
Speaker 3: This was grinded out. This was like, hold on your
Speaker 3: nuts and absolutely find a way to make pars. And
Speaker 3: I think there's something kind of really admiral about that,
Speaker 3: Like you don't have to win majors every single way.
Speaker 3: Tiger showed us that that sometimes you're gonna be awesome
Speaker 3: and sometimes you're just gonna outlast everyone, grind them to death.
Speaker 3: And I think he has You know, you should feel
Speaker 3: really proud of the fact that he's now this kind
Speaker 3: of player who can do this different ways. You know,
Speaker 3: there was a time I remember sitting Bernie, you bring
Speaker 3: up fourteen. I remember sitting in the Chambers Bay press
Speaker 3: conference and he was like, yeah, I'm just gonna be
Speaker 3: kind of a volatile player. I'm gonna miss three cuts
Speaker 3: in a row, and then I'm gonna win three things
Speaker 3: in a row. And when I can get on those
Speaker 3: hot streaks, it's gonna be great. And I don't really
Speaker 3: care about the bad ones. And then he went through
Speaker 3: that stretch of US opens post Chambers. But it whereas
Speaker 3: like Shinnecock Oakmont, you know, Aaron Hills, bad, bad, bad,
Speaker 3: like really embarrassing sort of performances for a player of
Speaker 3: his caliber to miss three US opens in a row.
Speaker 3: And now he is just not that guy. I mean,
Speaker 3: he is the person who absolutely is gonna be in
Speaker 3: the fight, you know, a lot if he has any
Speaker 3: kind of game. And I just think that this performance
Speaker 3: was it was cool to watch. I mean, I remember
Speaker 3: last year will always be special because because of what
Speaker 3: it represented. But this one, man, this one was grinding,
Speaker 3: gritty effort.
Speaker 6: I feel like the part that maybe hasn't been discussed
Speaker 6: on this podcast at length yet is that there are
Speaker 6: some players who really let this slip out of their grasp,
Speaker 6: Like Justin Rose had this tournament and completely let it
Speaker 6: get away. And there are a couple other guys you
Speaker 6: talked about Cam missing all the putts.
Speaker 1: Justin Rose is a pretender, well according to some people.
Speaker 6: But the point in speaking to what Kevin's getting at, like,
Speaker 6: it's about getting it done, whether you have your a
Speaker 6: game or you don't. And I feel like previous versions
Speaker 6: of Rory, less complete versions of Rory would not have
Speaker 6: won today when you're scrapping it around on the weekend,
Speaker 6: and he was kind of scrapping it around throughout the
Speaker 6: weekend on.
Speaker 5: The weekend a week yeah, yeah, yeah, but especially Saturday.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, let's just talk in general, like he's
Speaker 3: learned how to be a better wedge player, right, He's
Speaker 3: learned how to have all different kinds of trajectories with
Speaker 3: his irons. He when he needed a drive on seventeen
Speaker 3: when he couldn't afford and notother thing. Absolutely let this
Speaker 3: low bullet down of a tee shot that bugged him
Speaker 3: really for the last two years. It's just that player
Speaker 3: is so different than the twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen version
Speaker 3: who was like, fit, let's tee at high and just
Speaker 3: bang it down there. And I'm confident I can hit
Speaker 3: this big ass draw and just nail it down there
Speaker 3: ninety percent of the time, and that was that worked
Speaker 3: for a long time for him, But the golf has changed.
Speaker 3: Like as you guys talked a lot about the agronomy stuff,
Speaker 3: like you know, because the players can hit it so far,
Speaker 3: they have to push the course to the edge. And
Speaker 3: I got some of the set up stuff. I just
Speaker 3: am confused by because like it's not like anybody shot
Speaker 3: the course record this week because all this idea that
Speaker 3: is like so easy out there. It was okay, but
Speaker 3: like did shuffer shoot sixty two?
Speaker 1: Like on Saturday's movie day, Like isn't like the history
Speaker 1: of the Masters on Saturday, Like that's the day people
Speaker 1: go get it, you know, and there's just a little
Speaker 1: moves on the on the board.
Speaker 3: You want excitement, right, you want? I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: Phil was complaining about how there wasn't any eagles or whatever.
Speaker 3: But it's like all of a sudden, it's like the
Speaker 3: truth with Garrett dug Into is like yeah there. It
Speaker 3: is kind of like a momentous decision again, Like it
Speaker 3: is kind of hard to go for those greens and two.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's not like when they were hitting four
Speaker 3: woods into it in you know, the seventies, But it
Speaker 3: is like there's a lot of risk involved, and I
Speaker 3: think I just don't I can't get like behind, you
Speaker 3: know when the score is what it is, like it's
Speaker 3: it was twelve under. He won that, Like what are
Speaker 3: we asking for? Like do we really like is it
Speaker 3: gonna is six under? Is that a better Masters? I
Speaker 3: just feel like they kind of got the balance pretty right,
Speaker 3: and they have for the last four years.
Speaker 2: Well matter where do you land on the course this course,
Speaker 2: we don't need to go too heavy.
Speaker 1: Where did you land? From a data?
Speaker 6: I empathize with Scotti's viewpoint that Yeah, conditions were fairly
Speaker 6: similar both days, and the course played quite softer on Friday,
Speaker 6: Like I would probably be frustrating his position. But if
Speaker 6: you were out there, if you're watching the shots traffic cop,
Speaker 6: the margins were super slim.
Speaker 1: Maybe may if JL i'ms joining the four. The margins
Speaker 1: were super slow.
Speaker 5: The margins were slim.
Speaker 6: I mean we watched how Tung Lee put on thirteen
Speaker 6: like up and over and down into the water, and
Speaker 6: it wasn't like his putt was carrying a ton of
Speaker 6: paste over. It's not like the greens were slow. The
Speaker 6: greens were fast. It was firm fifteen you could barely
Speaker 6: hold again, you guys touched on it, but this is
Speaker 6: a conversation about equipment.
Speaker 3: I think it's Scotty's in case in general. You know,
Speaker 3: he the reason obviously, you guys, this happened before I
Speaker 3: came on the like to the company. But like he
Speaker 3: has in his mind, he just loves fairness, right, He's
Speaker 3: so annoyed, more annoyed than other people by a gust
Speaker 3: of wind.
Speaker 4: Or a huge stickler for fairness.
Speaker 3: If he would love it if the conditions were exactly
Speaker 3: the same for everyone. That's why he was kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, complaining why I like ball in hand or
Speaker 3: whatever the PGA, And I think it obviously it's because
Speaker 3: he's just so frickin talented. He knows that his talent
Speaker 3: will kind of outlast every almost every single person if
Speaker 3: the things are all things are equal, And he's such
Speaker 3: a competitive person that what he wants is like a
Speaker 3: fair stage. He wants to basically be at the Olympics
Speaker 3: where you line up and run the exact same hundred
Speaker 3: meters that everyone else does, and that's just not golf.
Speaker 1: I well, I think he wants that because he's the
Speaker 1: best executor. Yeah, I like, if you just stood on
Speaker 1: a driving range and said, hit shots at this flag.
Speaker 1: I think Scotty would win all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's that tailor made video where he like hitting
Speaker 3: him on the launch monitor and like how far is
Speaker 3: that going on? And it's like comes up on track
Speaker 3: man one fifteen three oh two, three oh two, like
Speaker 3: he can. He's so good at knowing exactly the right
Speaker 3: yardage to hit it to that without any elements of course,
Speaker 3: he's going to hit flags.
Speaker 4: You gotta wonder why is he not playing TGL if
Speaker 4: he just wants, you know, Dome Golf.
Speaker 5: Joseph where numbers aren't correct?
Speaker 1: A tg aleged Joseph.
Speaker 2: Where are you landing with Cameron right now after the day? Uh,
Speaker 2: he's out there with you for a good portion.
Speaker 6: I think when we just say somebody just missed putts,
Speaker 6: like there's truth to it, but also, you know, I
Speaker 6: feel like it sometimes abdicates the quality of the putts, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: Cameron missed a lot of putts down the stretch that
Speaker 6: he probably should have made one or two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 6: Reading his quotes, he more or less felt like he
Speaker 6: did everything he needed to win. I don't know if
Speaker 6: you guys have had a chance to read his quick quotes,
Speaker 6: but he was basically like, I hit the ball well
Speaker 6: enough to win by multiple shots.
Speaker 5: So he did No, I agree, I agree, but he didn't.
Speaker 6: He didn't get it done, and I felt like there
Speaker 6: was a little bit of a lack of that X
Speaker 6: factor down the stretch to carry a couple No, no,
Speaker 6: not a house cat.
Speaker 5: Not a house cat by any means a house cat.
Speaker 1: Young lion, young lion, Yeah, young, you're not young lion.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a bigger cat.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for Cat's part two. We've had any conversations,
Speaker 4: it's coming out.
Speaker 1: I think he could be like maybe like a panther,
Speaker 1: a young panther that got bad.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I think Cameron Young. That's obviously a huge part
Speaker 6: of the stories in the final group. But what Rose
Speaker 6: Rose letting this one slip away? To me, it was
Speaker 6: probably the biggest takeaway.
Speaker 1: Of the day.
Speaker 2: Had the lead gone to the ten ticks, he chipped
Speaker 2: one back to his feet on number three.
Speaker 3: The chip on twelve was horrid. I mean that just
Speaker 3: resulted in a bogie, but the.
Speaker 6: Chip on eleven was bad, and he talked to Tori
Speaker 6: that his short game still needs to be cleaned up.
Speaker 6: If he wants to have a chance to win some
Speaker 6: of these, and that really did cost him today.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I truly believe you guys are
Speaker 3: right and the Cam is gonna win a couple majors.
Speaker 3: I think two would be a good number. I think
Speaker 3: he's he's shown that much game. You have to get
Speaker 3: in the mix a little bit at Augusta, I think
Speaker 3: to kind of understand all of the feels of that pressure,
Speaker 3: and the bogie on seven was not a particularly good one.
Speaker 3: That's where it started to sort of slip a little bit.
Speaker 4: For Yeah, back back to back six and seven.
Speaker 2: What was ke You've You've covered so many of these
Speaker 2: majors and these major Sundays in major mount What was
Speaker 2: your like approach today?
Speaker 3: Andy?
Speaker 2: I talked about bouncing around, like where what was your
Speaker 2: like feel of.
Speaker 3: I walked the whole front nine with Rory and Cam,
Speaker 3: and I just felt like I could see Rose, I
Speaker 3: could see Cheffer climbing, and I was like, I have
Speaker 3: to like see the big picture of this. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've I walked all eight team with Rory last year,
Speaker 3: and so I thought, you know, even if Rory wins,
Speaker 3: this is never going to like live up till last
Speaker 3: year's kind of thing. So I I ducked in the
Speaker 3: media center and just started taking notes and kind of
Speaker 3: seeing the whole board. I knew you guys were out watching.
Speaker 3: I was like, you guys can get a lot of color,
Speaker 3: but I need to be able to see the chess board.
Speaker 3: That's rare for me because I kind of hate being
Speaker 3: inside and like not feeling this sort of thing like
Speaker 3: that the cigar detailed smoke that's that is right in
Speaker 3: my alley of like the kind of shit that I love.
Speaker 3: And I feel like a little bummed that I wasn't,
Speaker 3: you know, there to sort of see this scene on eighteen.
Speaker 3: But I also by that time, I was like when
Speaker 3: he hit the pun on seventeen, I was like, gosh,
Speaker 3: I'd run out to eighteen and sort of see this
Speaker 3: whether it's a disaster or whether it's a triumph unfold
Speaker 3: and I just thought, you know what, I got to
Speaker 3: sit in here, but go ahead. You know what.
Speaker 1: One of my big takeaways was, I think Augusta National
Speaker 1: it just golf in general, but it's ramped up at
Speaker 1: Augusta National. It is so hard to play three great
Speaker 1: rounds in a row. And if you look at everybody
Speaker 1: that's on this leader board. They effectively just had one
Speaker 1: mediocre round mixed in here, and that's the difference. Scotty,
Speaker 1: it's the seventy four in round two, you know, Rory
Speaker 1: is the seventy three in round three. Then you go
Speaker 1: down to Cam. Cam's was today really in round one?
Speaker 1: An He's sensational in between, right, That's basically like and
Speaker 1: Justin Rose ironically was like, you know, he just didn't
Speaker 1: have the one great round. You know that was the
Speaker 1: putter never allowed him to have the one great round
Speaker 1: this week. And I think that's the thing with Justin Rose.
Speaker 2: At various points today I thought Rory was gonna win.
Speaker 2: I thought Rory was gonna lose. Would everybody agree with that?
Speaker 2: Were there was there a point today where you didn't
Speaker 2: think Rory was gonna win?
Speaker 3: What you made the double on four?
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I don't know this based off
Speaker 2: SATURDAYX six For me, I.
Speaker 3: Was like, ugh, six, I felt like he hit a
Speaker 3: good iron shot there, just won a couple of yards
Speaker 3: too far. But the iron shot on four was not
Speaker 3: good and the chip was almost went in, but then
Speaker 3: the first pot was bad and then to mix the
Speaker 3: next one I was like.
Speaker 2: What about you, La, Did you ever think Roy was
Speaker 2: not gonna win?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, When I saw the double go up on four,
Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't think it was over, but I
Speaker 6: mean Cam and Justin because Justin Rose hit the shot
Speaker 6: on seven very shortly after that, one of the craziest shots.
Speaker 6: I was right behind him when he hit it was
Speaker 6: aimed thirty yards left of the green, peels it back
Speaker 6: to six inches and is strutting up to the eighth
Speaker 6: tea box like it was in his hands.
Speaker 3: Can I have a question for you guys. I was
Speaker 3: next to eight green when Cam hit that chip from
Speaker 3: over there, and I couldn't really see because you know,
Speaker 3: it was kind of hiding the people. Everyone thought that
Speaker 3: he hit like a shank there, but it seemed like he.
Speaker 1: Was trying to back.
Speaker 5: Then Cam practiced that shot for about ten minutes during Okay.
Speaker 3: It just sounded a little clunky and everyone went ooh,
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't there's no way he
Speaker 3: shanked that right like, and it was. It was an
Speaker 3: awesome play. Then to sort of bring that back, I
Speaker 3: you know, Ry hit a great shot in there, and
Speaker 3: it kind of was a pretty weak eagle putt, but
Speaker 3: that was kind of like at least like those two
Speaker 3: in a row sort of felt like got the round.
Speaker 2: So it's a day. I think when we all felt
Speaker 2: like Rory could win, Cam could win, there was a
Speaker 2: moment we thought Cam was gonna win. I would say,
Speaker 2: object just jumping and object when everything rose was gonna win.
Speaker 2: I think we all thought there was a moment there, Scotty,
Speaker 2: anyone object? Did you just say, Scotty?
Speaker 1: I think after he birdied three, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's coming.
Speaker 3: Yeay, he just I thought when he birdied fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's late in the game, but
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you guys saw his third
Speaker 3: shot into fifteen. Did you see that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just I thought it was too late because
Speaker 1: at that point Rory was already like he needed a
Speaker 1: birdie out.
Speaker 5: In my mind, it was too late.
Speaker 6: On thirteen fairway, I thought there was a chance that
Speaker 6: Scotty Scheffler, Yeah, that was the first time early in
Speaker 6: the round is like it was a possibility. But on
Speaker 6: thirteen fairway, if he makes either birdy or eagle.
Speaker 1: How was that dry so far back?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: Did he hit threewood or something?
Speaker 1: That was so fun.
Speaker 3: He was right in the middle of the fairway and
Speaker 3: there was no even thought about trying to sling a draw.
Speaker 5: I didn't see the t show.
Speaker 1: He was really far back. I mean, must have been
Speaker 1: fifty yards the day a couple of days ago he
Speaker 1: had that driving iron into it. I it's a really
Speaker 1: hard shot for Scotty because if he wants to get
Speaker 1: in a good spot, he has to turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: which he doesn't doesn't really like to do.
Speaker 2: Other other notes, you guys want onload, I think we
Speaker 2: could do. I have a couple of quick grades. I
Speaker 2: want to get to Tyrrel Hadden Wikipedia yellow, the definition
Speaker 2: of Wikipedia yellow.
Speaker 1: I mean more call finishing.
Speaker 3: He gets an absolutely ad Fleetwood.
Speaker 6: Fleetwood was pretty. He was in the mix for a
Speaker 6: little bit and then totally ejected.
Speaker 1: He gets a bat that was yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Max Helma with like the most irrelevant top ten you know.
Speaker 3: But though Max has been a long time from like
Speaker 3: sniffing any like top tens of a major, he played
Speaker 3: really well and I think I know just if you
Speaker 3: don't like to think he's a he's a placer level
Speaker 3: PJ Tour player, but here he plays good golf. Here
Speaker 3: and like, I think that speaks something to his imagination
Speaker 3: in his game.
Speaker 4: A certain media member, there's just three.
Speaker 3: Top tens now the Master, three top fifteens.
Speaker 4: A certain media member did pose a question to me
Speaker 4: that could Max Homa be the first guy to qualify
Speaker 4: like via top twelve in the Masters, but also lose
Speaker 4: his tour card in the same year.
Speaker 3: I guarantee that that would not be. There's plenty of
Speaker 3: dudes back in the day. He would take top sixteen
Speaker 3: at the and the Masters come back.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know a couple others the can't lay
Speaker 1: T twelve. He might not. He might not qualify for
Speaker 1: the Masters next year.
Speaker 2: Speakless other than the T twelve, speakless tea.
Speaker 5: Some really good golf is kind of I.
Speaker 3: Always said, he said, I've never hit it better, even
Speaker 3: in the years when I like other maybe other than
Speaker 3: the year I won, I've never hit it better than
Speaker 3: I hit it this week, putting was bad.
Speaker 2: Where are you guys with read and burns? Are we
Speaker 2: giving burns? Burns probably gets a positive mark?
Speaker 1: Is he finished?
Speaker 2: He seven bad Sunday? I know that the taste about
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: Didn't get that, didn't get that for the No, he
Speaker 1: just he made a bad arrest.
Speaker 4: He was super he rested the wrong guy.
Speaker 3: I did think, briefly though, because we did the eighty
Speaker 3: six rewatch when Burns birdied sixteen on that like fifty footer,
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, what if he makes another birdie?
Speaker 3: And then he's like, all of a sudden like tom
Speaker 3: Kite like putting for the lead, and everyone's like, where
Speaker 3: did this guy come from?
Speaker 1: Well, he was what we watched him on seventeen. I
Speaker 1: was like, consequential putting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So apparently that was not on the broadcast at all.
Speaker 5: The Double Kid.
Speaker 4: They showed him teeing off and then not mentioned anything
Speaker 4: that happened.
Speaker 3: Has there been any broadcast takes yet?
Speaker 2: Seven Holes?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I look, it wasn't great. There was a lot
Speaker 3: of frustrating things on the back nine, I mean losing shots,
Speaker 3: like completely losing track of players. It just was like
Speaker 3: a weird year for CBS. I didn't quite understand what
Speaker 3: was going on exactly, but they were I mean they
Speaker 3: did they I don't even think they talked really about
Speaker 3: Scotty getting jammed by how Song for like ten minutes.
Speaker 2: It was so ten is a generous just when I
Speaker 2: were there it was twenty.
Speaker 5: I also think he might have taken a stinky drop still,
Speaker 5: but at.
Speaker 2: That I just wanted him taking any drop to move
Speaker 2: the proceed, like literally throw the ball in the hole
Speaker 2: because I was not gonna win, Like just throw it
Speaker 2: on the ground.
Speaker 3: I was watching the Aim and Corner feed and I
Speaker 3: kept looking back to it, and I was because I
Speaker 3: was trying to pay attention to Scotty, and the broadcast
Speaker 3: was like they didn't go back to Scotty forever. I
Speaker 3: couldn't figure out one, so I flipped it over and
Speaker 3: you could just see how tong like wandering through the
Speaker 3: bushes doing you know, and then he's like twenty three.
Speaker 3: It just felt like there should have been a discussion
Speaker 3: about that of like, hey, Scott Shffler has a real
Speaker 3: chance to win the Masters and having to wait like
Speaker 3: twenty minutes to hit his second shot on thirteen.
Speaker 6: At one point picked up his ball to take an
Speaker 6: unplayable and I think he was incorrect about where he
Speaker 6: could take it and had to go back after he'd
Speaker 6: already picked it up.
Speaker 5: It was a scene.
Speaker 3: He's a character, I mean, he was. He definitely made
Speaker 3: me laugh with all that stuff about pooping his brains
Speaker 3: out all week. But you know that was not exactly
Speaker 3: It was a bit unbecoming when you're playing with a
Speaker 3: guy who's like truly in contention.
Speaker 2: Poor marks for day, poor marks for reed.
Speaker 3: Just disappeared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did his sponsor obligation Friday night and touched
Speaker 1: the sun and this the jet they flew literally flew
Speaker 1: out his Vesta jet to the Sun with the Hatten.
Speaker 1: The Hatten T four or whatever T three I will like,
Speaker 1: remember it's the mostly consequent T three.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry speaking of inconsequential T T threes. The rust Bus,
Speaker 4: I mean rust Buss.
Speaker 1: There were shades of of the Ryder Cup where Russ
Speaker 1: is surging into the end of contention and then and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he just starts hitting terrible Potts
Speaker 1: hand up.
Speaker 4: Like just watching the board speaking of people who you
Speaker 4: ever thought had a chance to win. I was, I
Speaker 4: was worried about the existence of no no, no, I
Speaker 4: just I He just got to ten so quick, and
Speaker 4: I was like, I haven't watched Russell Henley in his
Speaker 4: shot all week. I don't know what. I don't have
Speaker 4: anything to comment on.
Speaker 1: Listen what what REI said in the pre tournament about
Speaker 1: there being ten to twelve players that could win the tournament.
Speaker 1: It's so true. And of the people that finished on
Speaker 1: the board, I think it's like Rory Scheffler. I don't
Speaker 1: think Hatton is going to win the Masters personally, Justin Rose,
Speaker 1: Cameron Young and that was that was it. Those four.
Speaker 1: It felt like through the day at one point or another,
Speaker 1: and like that Xander Schoffley didn't play well enough, and
Speaker 1: you know, and then you go down and John Ram,
Speaker 1: John Ram shot a nice sixty eight. We're going to
Speaker 1: get into thirty eight. Yeah, great live golf grade. Well,
Speaker 1: they disaster, they had a podium finished, they got a podium.
Speaker 2: I mean my younger days. This is one that just
Speaker 2: relishes meat Ball. I want to throw this to the
Speaker 2: to Kevin and the boys, like live golf could not
Speaker 2: have been more disastrous.
Speaker 1: Why are you gonna do that?
Speaker 2: Sergio trying to get their books and the impressionable young
Speaker 2: boys over there.
Speaker 1: They at the boys as they are trying. I saw that.
Speaker 1: I saw the email lunch with Hiri.
Speaker 6: I'd stay close to close to an. I'll give it
Speaker 6: a d because of Tyroll because it's her. I think
Speaker 6: John Ram and Bryson was super embarrassing, but Sergio got
Speaker 6: the headline on the PR front and not great Sergio.
Speaker 6: I mean Sergio is who he thought he was. I've
Speaker 6: written about this.
Speaker 3: For my I think you're the one person who's really
Speaker 3: always been like a bad guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were an asshole, ay, and an asshole
Speaker 1: at twenty five and cover your kid like in your
Speaker 1: soole at thirty five and you're.
Speaker 2: Stealing, he's still doing it. It's like, oh, Sergio's matured.
Speaker 2: I read that story when I was like ten years ago.
Speaker 2: I got spitting in the cup, like.
Speaker 1: He's still an asshole.
Speaker 3: He's a bad guy.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and he hasn't done anything since he won.
Speaker 1: Am I yelling too much? Sorry? Okay, it's just okay.
Speaker 1: This is Sergio is always a button that you can
Speaker 1: always just It was.
Speaker 2: The least surprising media.
Speaker 3: Media got some grief this old bad question, Scotty, But
Speaker 3: the media was kind of riding Sergio pretty good. We're
Speaker 3: trying to get some answers out of him, and he
Speaker 3: was the press there. No, he snapped at him, of course,
Speaker 3: but I was impressed, like you and Murray bomb Hart
Speaker 3: kept going out him, you know, like what was the
Speaker 3: conduct for like well, I'm not gonna answer next question,
Speaker 3: you know. And what did what what what did young
Speaker 3: say to you? I'm not going to tell you.
Speaker 2: He took a chunk out of the tea box and
Speaker 2: smashed his driver on a cooler, you know. And dug
Speaker 2: Fort had the report that jeff Yange, the new chairman competition,
Speaker 2: been in first year on the job, just throwing in
Speaker 2: the deep end getting some surgery. O reps went out
Speaker 2: to the fourth t it said, gave him a code
Speaker 2: of conduct warning. Ferguson the Great Ap reported at it
Speaker 2: also hearing this new conduct policy is being used for
Speaker 2: the first time this year for at least two majors.
Speaker 2: Second violation shoe shots. Third is DQ combined.
Speaker 3: We want it should be like points on your license.
Speaker 3: You keep them kind of like that, and then if
Speaker 3: you get another like if next year he gets another
Speaker 3: conduct viation, it's a stroke. One more of that, it's
Speaker 3: a DQ.
Speaker 1: It's like Draymond Green with the technical over the first
Speaker 1: of the year and then the crew and the NBA
Speaker 1: hands lebron in title. Who do we want? All right?
Speaker 4: Who do we want to name this after? Because I
Speaker 4: I came on No, no, because after if if two majors. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, after incidents at two majors last year. This
Speaker 4: is the Windom Clark rule. Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 4: the Windom Clark rule period.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something that made me just giggle
Speaker 1: while I was sitting by myself early in the morning, please,
Speaker 1: So Sergio breaks his driver and and then like I'm watching,
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting by nine Green, just enjoying the morning
Speaker 1: watching players play through. You know, start with Kittie Kat there,
Speaker 1: next next group up. I'm like, the scoreboard turns and
Speaker 1: it's Sergio and Rom and there's one ball like twenty
Speaker 1: five yards behind it. And I'm like, oh, it's Sergio
Speaker 1: and it's still on the downslope. So I proms down
Speaker 1: in the flat and Sergio's on the downslope because he
Speaker 1: had to hit three wood. He hit an awesome shot,
Speaker 1: but I just was like chuckling to myself. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he just made this whole so much
Speaker 1: harder because on the second hole of the of the
Speaker 1: fourth round, when he's completely out of the mix, he
Speaker 1: decided to play.
Speaker 3: Of course, he had had an enormous asshole answer about
Speaker 3: that too. They were like, well, how hard was it too?
Speaker 3: When you didn't have driver. It's easy because there's no
Speaker 3: decision with every old next.
Speaker 2: Question, that's great, I mean, what why just breaking your
Speaker 2: driver when in like an inconsequential in the tournament at
Speaker 2: this point with what it was forty five years old.
Speaker 1: I love John.
Speaker 3: I love for John's like, whoa, yeah, look Rom.
Speaker 2: Saying he'll now prepare differently, but won't say what. He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to start doing this differently, like the Greens
Speaker 2: are this firm. I'm going to start doing this differently, like.
Speaker 1: Do you think this firm?
Speaker 2: But yeah, he said, you don't see what this firm?
Speaker 2: I need to prepare differently. Yeah, it's purple.
Speaker 1: I need to prepare John Rom has to prepared. That's
Speaker 1: what he said. This is a live?
Speaker 2: Is this like many people right into this is like
Speaker 2: all the live schedules a joke. It doesn't prepare you
Speaker 2: for the majors. I don't think that's what he meant necessarily.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, Rory didn't exactly you know he praised on
Speaker 6: the PGA Tour lead up.
Speaker 1: Oh totally not like this isn't a pure live. I
Speaker 1: didn't read it that way quite frankly. Also, why didn't he.
Speaker 2: Tell us what you know. I mean, I think I
Speaker 2: know what he meant.
Speaker 4: He could just pull the rory and play, you know,
Speaker 4: just show up, just kind of be here all the time.
Speaker 1: It worked. I can't wait for next year. Let's go
Speaker 1: into the next year. Max Grazerman qualifies, you know, miraculous
Speaker 1: run and he decides he wants to do the Rory
Speaker 1: prep and he spends three weeks and two days in that.
Speaker 1: They tap him on the shoulder. Do you when do
Speaker 1: you leave it?
Speaker 2: He's probably busy agitating for Crypto to be paid out
Speaker 2: from the purse.
Speaker 3: I heard a good story of this week. I think
Speaker 3: they just send you a bill. It's just like, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: we think you maybe need to stay at the quality
Speaker 3: end up the road. We're gonna send you a bill
Speaker 3: for the first two weeks. And it's like two hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: What other notes do you guys have?
Speaker 1: Joseph Well on the lif stuff.
Speaker 6: The only time Phil Ncholson missed this year's event whatever's
Speaker 6: going on? And the only time he made any headlines
Speaker 6: was having a crazy take about thirteen and fifteen, like.
Speaker 5: Just unseerious all out.
Speaker 1: What's his take? What was his take?
Speaker 5: She basically said that length is not always better. Now
Speaker 5: there aren't.
Speaker 1: Eagles lengthening the holes, right, yes, now there.
Speaker 6: Aren't eagles anymore. On thirteen and fifteen, which I think
Speaker 6: you guys covered yesterday, But I mean thirteen and fifteen
Speaker 6: were probably the two highlights of the tournament this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, not easy birdies at all, mostly a
Speaker 2: lot of five go ahead.
Speaker 4: I just I had this note just for my standing
Speaker 4: at the At the first t Cameron comes comes across
Speaker 4: and takes his hat off, shakes all the markers and
Speaker 4: the announcer's hands, and Rory just blow by, all all business,
Speaker 4: didn't even flinch at anybody. I just wanted to point
Speaker 4: that out, you know.
Speaker 2: A good guy, not so good guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jerry, Jerry would check that hand.
Speaker 5: Oh didn't you wanted to bring up the hat we saw?
Speaker 2: This was my favorite moment with with Lemaona. We were
Speaker 2: on thirteen. Hawaton's puttson around. There's an older gentleman and
Speaker 2: a red fire engine red hat and we know what
Speaker 2: that means nowadays, a red hat with big bold hawksman,
Speaker 2: big bold letters on the front. Okay, and he turns
Speaker 2: and he faces us, and you know you expect a
Speaker 2: certain verbiage and it says Relax, it's just a red
Speaker 2: hat on the front. And he was an older gentleman
Speaker 2: in the demo. That's good and Lamaia I go like,
Speaker 2: you're going to Sunday at the Masters, Like who you
Speaker 2: look at the closet.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm going with this one today and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wear this on thirteen at eight. Relax, it's just
Speaker 1: a red hat.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I saw a guy dressed in like full Sigma Kai
Speaker 1: fraternity regalia and he was like sixty five years old,
Speaker 1: like hat and like white button down shirt, and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh about what, Like you decided to wear all frat
Speaker 1: gear and you're like sixty five to the Masters on
Speaker 1: Sunday and it was a longsley button down. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be ninety Usher. I saw Usher in a sweater up there,
Speaker 1: Usher Raymond. He looked very hot.
Speaker 4: Joe Jonah was in some crazy fit with a lot
Speaker 4: of cotton bend sure comfortable.
Speaker 3: Rough and the doll was only celebrity I saw this week.
Speaker 2: He was around the first T speaking of the first T.
Speaker 2: An interesting moment, just random, totally random note as Rory
Speaker 2: and Cam were on the first tea getting ready to
Speaker 2: go JT and Victor and finished putting on eighteen and
Speaker 2: crazy they were. They were walking through the tunnel and
Speaker 2: going to the score, going to the clubhouse, and like
Speaker 2: they're in the middle of the tunnel and j like
Speaker 2: JT just like turns back and like looks at the
Speaker 2: first t and like longingly, like just just staring at
Speaker 2: it as it's like it's just totally full. It's envelope.
Speaker 2: And Cam hadn't put his peg. It was interesting. It
Speaker 2: was like a moving not moving, but it was powerful.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, I could be there late two
Speaker 2: o'clock tea.
Speaker 1: Can I ask a serious question?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: JT?
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I don't know if you.
Speaker 1: Had to bet on JT or Jordan Spieth winning another
Speaker 1: master's who would you bet on another Master?
Speaker 4: Yeah, winnings, Justin Thomas, Jordan, I know who you're got one.
Speaker 3: Justin Thomas has never showed any ability to compete her,
Speaker 3: but he's.
Speaker 5: Shown a pulse in the last eighteen months.
Speaker 4: Good, it's really good. It's run on the corner.
Speaker 3: Who's contended in more majors in the last five years
Speaker 3: to speak? Or JT? I think it's speak five years.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think I care what it.
Speaker 1: Feels like a conversation.
Speaker 3: Thomas has been one pretending at Harvard Town next year
Speaker 3: either serious d L.
Speaker 1: Three those two memorial for j T and Speed.
Speaker 2: We're going to get some big signature boys next week.
Speaker 5: I feel I would say I'll take JT's future.
Speaker 1: Earn a spot at the heritage or was it sponsor?
Speaker 6: I believe it was on his own merit actually finished.
Speaker 6: But you know who did get a sponsor exemption?
Speaker 2: Tony, He's on the full circuit. Look at this, that
Speaker 2: might be our time to sign off anything else? What else, Kevin?
Speaker 2: Any other big picture thought?
Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: think Jordan Speed. I think if I had to better
Speaker 1: up one, if I had to pick the two, I
Speaker 1: would take Speed.
Speaker 4: I think Jordan's Speed and Johnson.
Speaker 2: Mister mister Potts was still on around. Mister pott gears
Speaker 2: just the old man. A lot of a music.
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
Speaker 2: A couple of times I just chuckle.
Speaker 4: I saw mckibbon was in full thirteen he presumably his scripting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is a good question from that crowd.
Speaker 1: Rory Rory a double Grand Slam or or Speith. Was
Speaker 1: it more likely Rory double Grand Slam or Speed Grand Slam?
Speaker 1: So he needs another US Open and another Don't Open.
Speaker 3: I'll tell Justsep Bonner. I don't think sweet can win
Speaker 3: a PG. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: I think he chance.
Speaker 1: I think I actually think if you were going to
Speaker 1: pick a course that he could win at, I think
Speaker 1: he could win a run.
Speaker 3: Hey, I think he went at Frisco at first.
Speaker 1: What there's too much trouble at first?
Speaker 3: A home game?
Speaker 2: Would it count at Frisco? But that actually count?
Speaker 1: Would you just give it a half? I think there's
Speaker 1: a real chance that Rory Boycott's Frisco.
Speaker 5: That would be sick.
Speaker 1: I bet no. Conversely, he wins it and then he
Speaker 1: has to like acknowledge that you know it's Frisco.
Speaker 3: All right? Go ahead? Picture thought, please, that's why you're here.
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 3: I think the Masters has I wouldn't get this right.
Speaker 3: There's a little bit more and more creep every year
Speaker 3: of the kind of corporate standing of its edges, and
Speaker 3: I just I really felt that this year for the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 1: Oh you want to do that let's do it. It's
Speaker 1: just open enough of canon.
Speaker 2: I had a two hour I was like, are we
Speaker 2: going the Wednesday? I was looking at this, is this
Speaker 2: the Wednesday episode? Please?
Speaker 1: I think it might be the boys.
Speaker 2: We also have like a big way this week is
Speaker 2: PGA Tour versus But the end of these that are
Speaker 2: not the PGA Tour, We'll talk about that another time,
Speaker 2: but please Kevin go ahead.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously some of the Part three stuff became
Speaker 3: a big part of that conversation or this week, and
Speaker 3: like the clown show that has kind of lost contain
Speaker 3: a little bit. And I was trying to trace back
Speaker 3: when this Part three, in my mind became like a
Speaker 3: celebrity event, and my old employer ESPN is certainly part
Speaker 3: of the participation in.
Speaker 1: That touting the ratings.
Speaker 3: I think it's when Tiger brought brought Lindsay Vaughn to
Speaker 3: be his caddy, kind of soft launch their relationship at
Speaker 3: the Part three and it became like a TV event.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, like Tiger and Lindsay are dating. This
Speaker 3: is like everyone wants to tune in. Because for years
Speaker 3: he had rejected the SI the silliness of the Part three.
Speaker 3: He did He's like, this is dumb. If I'm like
Speaker 3: competing with the tournament, I'm not going to play in
Speaker 3: this hit and giggle where people bring their families around.
Speaker 3: But he kind of like legitimized what we see today,
Speaker 3: which is that it's just basically like a family circus,
Speaker 3: which is fine, but it also, I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: like it's we're losing a little bit of what the
Speaker 3: tournament used to be. And this is like truly the
Speaker 3: dumbest probably analogy that could come up with to sort
Speaker 3: of illustrate this. But the I feel a little bit
Speaker 3: bad because I was recommending like the peach ice cream
Speaker 3: sandwiches and our guide this year, like oh, they're so great,
Speaker 3: and they were so mediocre, and I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, this strikes me as like some like hedge
Speaker 3: fund person was like, you know, we could make these
Speaker 3: peach ice cream sandwiches way more efficient and for way
Speaker 3: cheaper if we just like commoditized them.
Speaker 1: There might be an ice cream shortage.
Speaker 3: They're just not as good as they once.
Speaker 1: Were, and ice cream the ice cream. There's not as
Speaker 1: much ice.
Speaker 3: Cream in it, sure, And I'm sure people be like, oh,
Speaker 3: the fact I didn't go to the ice cream.
Speaker 1: But like it just.
Speaker 3: It's to me, it's like it's like a larger thing
Speaker 3: about Like, Okay, these used to be this original, cool
Speaker 3: thing and now they're just like a thing that you
Speaker 3: could get at the grocery store. They just taste that way,
Speaker 3: and it feels to me like a little bit of
Speaker 3: the charm was lost in that.
Speaker 1: Well, we haven't even merch is a huge expat stupid.
Speaker 3: That's where it's. It's kind of who wants a doggy
Speaker 3: bowl with Masters things on it? Who wants a you know,
Speaker 3: like literally anything. The salt shakers, Thechristmas tree ornaments, the
Speaker 3: football's of baseball, Like there's nothing that you can't imagine
Speaker 3: that they don't.
Speaker 4: And I almost grabbed the football because.
Speaker 2: I was joking about out baseball outside and we got jealous.
Speaker 2: I think, you know who's the other one besides the
Speaker 2: all right, all right, it's our gambling are gambling?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: I look this seemed to be a big narrative debate
Speaker 1: early in the week. Uh.
Speaker 2: I think like we're in an era of incredible Masters tournaments, Like,
Speaker 2: let's be real here, Rom Scottie Rory twice Tiger twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen Scotty twice. Yeah, like it's an incredible run of
Speaker 2: Masters tournaments.
Speaker 6: I uh.
Speaker 2: I thought, like whatever, the celebrity stuff and the goofiness
Speaker 2: and the miz and Kevin Hart and all that, Like
Speaker 2: I can just it's not for me. I don't really
Speaker 2: watch the part three anyways, Like like I get people
Speaker 2: defenders being offended by that, but whatever, I think where
Speaker 2: like the stuff was really out of balances, like the
Speaker 2: Hall becoming an identity of the tournament that said, like
Speaker 2: I had, I think it's growing it in a way
Speaker 2: that maybe is probably not appealing to others. I had
Speaker 2: a woman like a good friend of ours, my wife's
Speaker 2: good friend, like very dignified, reserved person, not a merch hall,
Speaker 2: not like text me this morning, like I saw this
Speaker 2: hat and I love it, and like never asked me,
Speaker 2: could you get this for me. It's grow it's going
Speaker 2: into these different tentacles. But like the notion I tried,
Speaker 2: it was sold out. I did try because this person
Speaker 2: is like a normal good person that asked me for it.
Speaker 2: It's like, holy crap, she wants a hat Like then
Speaker 2: like this must be going into different bloodstreams and that's
Speaker 2: not a bad thing. But the merch stuff just for
Speaker 2: me is where it all seems out of balance. And
Speaker 2: the celebrity pictures on site and the and the posting
Speaker 2: where like, I don't know if you should bring your
Speaker 2: cameras the first three days because now it feels like
Speaker 2: people are bringing their cameras to take pictures of themselves
Speaker 2: in this arene not to take pictures of the competition.
Speaker 3: Social team is told to follow the celebrity a bunch
Speaker 3: of stuff. Yeah, and like that would never have been
Speaker 3: the case, like ten years ago. The Masters has never
Speaker 3: felt cheap to me, and for the first time there's
Speaker 3: like a couple elements upon the edges that are starting
Speaker 3: to feel kind of cheap.
Speaker 5: This does not matter.
Speaker 6: But in the restaurant, in the dining in the media
Speaker 6: dining area, they have like the clocks around the world. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I did notice the hands were not fully lined up.
Speaker 6: That does not matter, But I don't know attention to detail.
Speaker 2: It's like, look, it's a fine line if they want
Speaker 2: to grow with women and they want to grow with kids,
Speaker 2: and like, I don't like blame them for that. The
Speaker 2: one thing I'll say about all the hooting and hollering
Speaker 2: and the carpeting, like to lean back on the speed line.
Speaker 2: I would think, like, nobody is thinking about this more
Speaker 2: than the Master, trust me, burner Twitter account, trust me
Speaker 2: like frustrated whatever, seventy five year old dude. Like I
Speaker 2: would think the Masters is thinking, like considering these outcomes,
Speaker 2: where are we going over the line, and like following
Speaker 2: the discourse about it, Like I do feel like they
Speaker 2: are not going to thirstily go after every inch and
Speaker 2: maybe there's some sort of recorrection after.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if we should have
Speaker 1: cameras the first three days after just what I see
Speaker 1: is people lining up to take pictures like of themselves,
Speaker 1: like flying the merch hall thing. The merch was just
Speaker 1: the one thing that I felt like got really out
Speaker 1: of balance, the celebrity stuff whatever. Anyways, that's it. That
Speaker 1: was a big observation, a big picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just I mean, I just think it's it's a
Speaker 3: delicate thing to play with, right. Yeah, we probably go
Speaker 3: to overboard sometimes being like, oh, it's a sacred place,
Speaker 3: like it is a golf tournament, but there is something
Speaker 3: that sort of makes it unique within the world of golf,
Speaker 3: and it would be a real shame to lose that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you wrote a great thing about the sort
Speaker 3: of atmosphere of the first tea. And it's like one
Speaker 3: of the things that I love about the Masters, right
Speaker 3: is there is no corporate sort of you know set
Speaker 3: up there. Like these players are playing for history and
Speaker 3: they have to weave their way through this collection of
Speaker 3: you know, rumbled sports writers and women in sun dresses
Speaker 3: and billionaires in their green jackets and agents sort of
Speaker 3: hustling to you know, hear the gossip and the scuttle butt,
Speaker 3: and it's like this great kind of organic thingy. They
Speaker 3: just form a human tunnel. They don't even have ropes
Speaker 3: between you and the players. And we were standing there
Speaker 3: on Saturday, just kind of standing there, and Rory came
Speaker 3: by and he saw us and he was kind of
Speaker 3: like the look on his face is like, what are
Speaker 3: you guys doing here? Like he was sort of funny,
Speaker 3: you know, I know, I know these guys, and you know,
Speaker 3: I just think that's kind of part of what makes
Speaker 3: it special. And if any of that goes away, I
Speaker 3: just feel like something's lost that you can't really get back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's that's still there. It's still there, And
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're next to Rafa or whoever,
Speaker 2: and they're just meandering with the people.
Speaker 3: Most of you have the same like rights as like
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce, which is kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, he was out there Saturday.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I for me, it's just the merch thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, canceled merch just empty just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do.
Speaker 1: But it's fine. I think I think, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they could fix the merch thing by just
Speaker 1: having an online store where everybody buys it. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's like the thing that's crazy to me about the
Speaker 1: merch is like these people, it's like you're going to
Speaker 1: the Masters for the one time in your life, and
Speaker 1: I get you want to get a keepsake. I understand that.
Speaker 1: I get you want to get keepsakes, but it's like
Speaker 1: they wait in line for two hours, they shop for
Speaker 1: an hour, then they got to run the bags back
Speaker 1: to their car, and it's like half your day's gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, someone noted I think it was from Bunker that
Speaker 2: like the crowd around the honorary starters was sparse, sparser
Speaker 2: than normal, but yet the merch line was over an
Speaker 2: hour wait and it's like that's where I think you're
Speaker 2: getting a little out about, like you are coming to
Speaker 2: a shopping event with a little bit of golf.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just think that's.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jack Nicholas. Maybe there's some Jack and Gary fatigue. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but like Jack's probably not going to hit the ceremonial
Speaker 3: t shot for more than many more years. Like even
Speaker 3: he kind of was like, well, you know, I'm getting
Speaker 3: kind of old. I don't know how many more years
Speaker 3: I'm going to do this. Yeah, he hit this low hook.
Speaker 3: You know, he said, I don't play golf more than
Speaker 3: once a year. And even then, I, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: in a cart. So it's like he doesn't, you know,
Speaker 3: he's not a golfer anymore, but this one ritual gets
Speaker 3: him up going for it. And there's this person who
Speaker 3: kind of helped make the Masters what it is, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of like people can't be bothered by it.
Speaker 3: And I think, man, when the first year I went
Speaker 3: to the Masters, Arnold Palmer was there and he came
Speaker 3: out for the ceremonal ty shot. He was really ill.
Speaker 3: He died, you know, probably four months later, and they
Speaker 3: were really trying to encourage him to hit it one
Speaker 3: more shot. Jack was like just take a potter and
Speaker 3: there was like tears in his eyes. He and Gary
Speaker 3: were both like crying because they knew it was the
Speaker 3: last time that Arnie was going to be it and
Speaker 3: it was such a kind of special thing and everybody
Speaker 3: around could sort of feel that, and you know, maybe
Speaker 3: that's a testament to Arnie, but like that is kind
Speaker 3: of gone. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of reels that that's what Joe MC.
Speaker 2: I know it fed into it. Like every time I
Speaker 2: opened my Instagram is like more reels of people showing
Speaker 2: the eight hundred things they bought IM.
Speaker 1: Just like is that why we the more? What's being
Speaker 1: celebrated about this tournament? Now?
Speaker 2: I don't know anyways that got out of balance anything else.
Speaker 2: I think like, honestly, this is for the end of
Speaker 2: the show. We didn't talk about fred Ridley's Wednesday thing much.
Speaker 2: We will talk about that at another time. There's I
Speaker 2: think there's a tension that's probably gonna that that seems
Speaker 2: to be very quite clear between the majors, certainly Gusta
Speaker 2: National Brian Rolapp's new era of leadership at the PGA
Speaker 2: Tour that that will probably discuss in detail. I don't
Speaker 2: know if we need to go into it right now,
Speaker 2: quite frankly, but but that was a big takeaway from
Speaker 2: this week because it's I think we could.
Speaker 1: Do a whole whole thing on that in scott when
Speaker 1: we're in Scotland.
Speaker 2: We're off to We're off to Scotland, the three of us.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll give it to the boys, the top of
Speaker 2: the Boys.
Speaker 1: Might Wednesday's show. It might be just solo.
Speaker 4: All right, it was it was gonna be cooler. I
Speaker 4: would say it like the sixth hole. Then maybe it
Speaker 4: is currently, But.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll be fine.
Speaker 3: You should be fine them to come on and have
Speaker 3: a little deep I'm wordy.
Speaker 1: If Cam's ever coming back to the Boys, I'm not concerned.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 2: I mean, Joseph like was Joseph was getting clocked by
Speaker 2: all the relatives and out there by. But like the
Speaker 2: camyon like Team Young, they knew Joseph quite well. He's
Speaker 2: sort of the you know, the whisperer of the Team Young.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's pretty fun to watch that happen.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: I think that does it for our final show from AUGUSTA.
Speaker 3: Thanks for reading our stuff twenty six.
Speaker 2: You know, Kevin obviously has elevated us in a major way.
Speaker 2: And it was awesome to see you cook. We had
Speaker 2: you at the Ryder Cup and just in the nascent
Speaker 2: days of your your your time here.
Speaker 1: First a lot of great stuff from Joseph who's on
Speaker 1: on top of cam watch Gerard Block.
Speaker 2: That was that's.
Speaker 1: Finish thirty ninth or something.
Speaker 5: But he's said that he's going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: So Ryan was. Ryan's a cool dude. He was great.
Speaker 3: So that's good.
Speaker 1: I mean mad Bykentechut over there from the boy it's fine.
Speaker 3: One one bad day did not diminish like a great
Speaker 3: Masters for you know, a person who's that experienced it
Speaker 3: all lot I was. It was fun to read those dispatches.
Speaker 2: Read Kevin on Friday Golf dot com or the Frida
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Speaker 1: Uh, because we don't take it lightly.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Cam for his great photos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Cameron heard us. Uh, it'll come as as
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