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Speaker 1: miss him in Minnesota. Yeah, so definitely good things there.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the team hasn't made it officially yet, so

429
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Speaker 1: we'll wait on that, but if it does come to pass,

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Speaker 1: it certainly sounds like a quality higher And the other

431
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Speaker 1: thing too. You know, we saw the Bills in the

432
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Speaker 1: offseason last year try to add a speed to the

433
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Speaker 1: edge back to their roster in Matt Brida. Obviously, he

434
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: fell out of favor due to ball security issues, couldn't

435
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Speaker 1: even be up on game day towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, especially after that fumble against the Patriots in

437
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Speaker 1: the first matchup here in the windswept game. So I

438
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Speaker 1: wonder if they dip their toe back in free agency

439
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: again looking for a quick to the edge back, because

440
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: that can help to versify this team's run game, albeit

441
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Speaker 1: it might make it a little bit predictable. Based on

442
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Speaker 1: what you said, Singletary strengths are, So if you see

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Speaker 1: Singletary on the field, you might expect this kind of

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Speaker 1: run concept. If you see a fast guy on the field,

445
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Speaker 1: it might be something different, but still at all it

446
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: does allow you to be more versatile and we know

447
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: injuries happen at the running back position too. I wonder,

448
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Speaker 1: knowing Breed is a free agent, if they choose to

449
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Speaker 1: dip their toe in the free agent waters with another

450
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Speaker 1: speed type back to diversify the backfield. Yeah, I think

451
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: you definitely could. And you're always looking to upgrade and

452
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Speaker 1: be more versatile. And just because someone comes in a

453
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Speaker 1: game and you expect something, well, then offensive coordinators can

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Speaker 1: use that against you as well. It's similar to bring

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Speaker 1: me in Tommy Doyle and you think, Okay, here comes

456
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Speaker 1: an extra alignment. It's gonna be a run play in Heck,

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Speaker 1: I feel like Brian day Ball ran us about as

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Speaker 1: much play action with Tommy Doyle in the game as

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Speaker 1: he did actually running the football. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: I think you could look in free agency in that way.

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Speaker 1: But I also think from what we saw towards the

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Speaker 1: end of the season with Zaiah McKenzie and I know

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Speaker 1: you got to resign him, but you get an Isaiah

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Speaker 1: McKenzie and watching Deebo Samuel for the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and you watch Cordarrel Patterson, who's a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver slash running back. Yeah, man, I just think

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Speaker 1: the more positionless players you can get where they can

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Speaker 1: play running back receiver. And I know those guys are rare,

469
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Speaker 1: and if you practice, you try and practice both too much,

470
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna be great at one thing. But man,

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Speaker 1: when you're running that up Temple offense and you don't

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Speaker 1: know if all of a sudden you have Devin Singletary

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah McKenzie both back in the backfield and you

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Speaker 1: could run it. You can get right back on the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and all of a sudden, Isaiah McKenzie's

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Speaker 1: in the slot. Devin Singletary became a much better pass

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Speaker 1: catcher this year. They run a lot of five wide formations.

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Speaker 1: With Devin Singletary out there, you can just be very multiple.

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Speaker 1: So I love the idea of Isaiah McKenzie Cordarrel Patterson

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Speaker 1: type player, especially when you run no huddle, assuming Ken

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00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: Dorsey does it about as much as Brian Dayball did,

482
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Speaker 1: and maybe it's thirty to forty percent of the time

483
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Speaker 1: you're operating in that no huddle, and those guys become

484
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Speaker 1: very tough to defend. And I mean, Isaiah McKenzie, what

485
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Speaker 1: do you average running the football in the playoffs? Eight

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Speaker 1: nine yards of carry. Yeah, probably the last maybe eight

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Yeah. He also Steve and I

488
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: kind of covered this in our Bills by the Numbers podcast.

489
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Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie was the player on the team with the

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Speaker 1: highest catch rate on third down. Converted every one of

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Speaker 1: his third down targets not only into a reception, but

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Speaker 1: a first down as well. It's a smaller sample size

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Speaker 1: than some of the other guys that got regular reps

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Speaker 1: on offense, but still in all, it was pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, speaking of receivers, he was in the catch

496
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Speaker 1: competition at the Pro Bowl and caught an impressive one

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Speaker 1: hander from Mac Jones backhanded. And then did you see

498
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Speaker 1: this on social media? He also jumped through a table

499
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: and caught a ball and I retweeted that and I said,

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Speaker 1: this guy almost gave me a heart attack. I mean,

501
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: this is a big jump. I mean, I know there's

502
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Speaker 1: padding down there, Eric, but I don't want to see

503
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Speaker 1: number one wide out doing that stuff. That's scared the

504
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: hell out him. Oh, I'm fine with it, especially with

505
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Speaker 1: the padding beneath it. If there wasn't padding beneath it,

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Speaker 1: I'd be worried about his tailbone or something. But no,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me too bad with the padding underneath.

508
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Speaker 1: And those guys are having fun at the Pro Bowl

509
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Speaker 1: and Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs is not there to put

510
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Speaker 1: his body at risk, so I'm assuming he knew what

511
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: he was doing there. I mean, gosh, I think you

512
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: talked about being nervous at the Pro Bowl. I think

513
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: back to twenty actually twenty the year twenty sixteen, but

514
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: after the twenty fifteen season playing in the Pro Bowl,

515
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Speaker 1: and Tyler Eiffert, who injured his foot during the season,

516
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: had broke it the previous year and then rebreaks his

517
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: foot in the Pro Bowl. And when guys like Josh

518
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: Allen turned down an invite for the Pro Bowl and

519
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: he's out playing golf in Pebble Beach this weekend, I'm

520
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: not that upset to see it. You know, It's truly

521
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: a great experience to play in the Pro Bowl. I

522
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Speaker 1: actually released a podcast today and talked about a lot

523
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: of those fun experiences, told some pretty funny stories that

524
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: were all appropriate form of podcast. But man, you'd really

525
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: worry about injury for some of those skill guys because

526
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Speaker 1: you don't know who's out there trying to win the

527
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Speaker 1: defensive MVP, and you could kind of sense it early

528
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: like we knew we could tell early on that Michael

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Speaker 1: Benn had wanted that denial. Like Michael Benn had wanted

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Speaker 1: to win the denal, he was going to try and

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Speaker 1: sack our quarterback and he was playing hard. So our

532
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: youngest offensive lineman was Kyle Long, who was with the

533
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Speaker 1: Bears at the time, So wherever Michael Bennett lined up,

534
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: Kyle Long had to go against Seniordy at its best.

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's pretty cold out there too. We

536
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Speaker 1: were talking to Maddie yesterday on the show and she's like, yeah, Hi,

537
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Speaker 1: of forty. I mean, it's better than we got here

538
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: right now, but that's cold, like evenings it's getting down

539
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: in like the upper twenties. I mean, I know it

540
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: gets cold in the desert at night, but not like that. Man.

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that's Las Vegas in February. But

542
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Speaker 1: what do we know? Yeah, I got I got a

543
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: golf trip out there next month. I'm really hoping it

544
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: warms up by then. We got a few great courses

545
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: lined up. But and that's one thing, like I know

546
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: that they bid out everything. Nowadays, I'm waiting for them

547
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: to start bidding out the combine too, but you know,

548
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: they bid out everything and it just goes to the

549
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: highest bidder. But it was so special when you got

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Speaker 1: to bring your family out to Hawaii and you knew

551
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: you were getting great weather this time of year. I

552
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: mean it was a high of eighty and a low

553
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: of seventy every day in February or late January when

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Speaker 1: we had it. And when you start moving it even

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Speaker 1: in Orlando. I remember my first year out of the league,

556
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Speaker 1: Richie was down in Orlando for the Pro Bowl, Richie incognito,

557
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: and I was texting him like, Hey, is it still

558
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: same old practice in the morning, straight to the pool

559
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Speaker 1: for the pool party and then kind of get together

560
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: with your family and meet up at night. He's like, no, man,

561
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: and it's freezing here. There's no pool parties. We hang

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Speaker 1: out kind of in the lobby. There's a lobby bar

563
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: we all go to, or guys will take their families

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Speaker 1: to the park. It's just not that same experience. And man,

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00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: it's just there's something about going to Hawaii and although

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Speaker 1: the travel stinks, and I'm sure that you know those

567
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Speaker 1: little island towns in the state of Hawaii. They can't

568
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Speaker 1: match what Orlando, or Las Vegas or yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: Phoenix or wherever they've played the Pro Bowl as of late,

570
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: they can't match those dollars. But it was pretty special

571
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Speaker 1: as a player to head out there. Yeah, and the

572
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Speaker 1: game is safe because that'll be indoors, but yeah, everything

573
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Speaker 1: around it, all these activities and other things are taking

574
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Speaker 1: place outdoors, and it's it's a little nippy out there,

575
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Speaker 1: so kind of an interesting way to look at it.

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Speaker 1: Knowing in the past it's been in Orlando, where the

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Speaker 1: weather is usually okay this time of year. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what the future is on that for places

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Speaker 1: like Las Vegas when they're getting weather like this. I

580
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: don't know if that helps their cause in future years,

581
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: because you gotta believe these guys that half of them,

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00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: probably while they're honored to be Pro Bowlers, are kind

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Speaker 1: of like, I don't know if I want to vote

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Speaker 1: a whole week to this after a long season. So

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Speaker 1: I'd be very interested to see how the cities are

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Speaker 1: selected going forward, and if it strictly just goes to

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Speaker 1: the highest bidder, how much they'll take into account weather

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00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: and stuff. Like that. All right, we gotta take a

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Speaker 1: break here, but we'll talk more about that on the

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Speaker 1: other side. Got a jam pack show for you today.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, second hour of the show, Chris Tapasso from

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports, gonna talk about some early draft plans with him.

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Speaker 1: And then third hour of the show coming up at

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Speaker 1: two o'clock, Jonathan Alexander, beat reporter for the Panthers, gonna

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Speaker 1: pill us in a little bit more on Bill's new

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, Joe Brady. All of that coming your way,

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Speaker 1: along with the obil Friday fan mail bag. Get your

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Speaker 1: questions in for Eric and I we'll be answering them

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Colloid to help gets Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's five. Chris Brown along with Eric

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Speaker 1: Wood joining me on the show today. And one thing

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to as far as NFL news and notes, Eric,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have finally filled their head coaching position. They

605
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Speaker 1: were the team that had a vacancy for the longest

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Speaker 1: period of time, as you know, after firing Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: during the season, and it turns out the first guy

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Speaker 1: that they interviewed came back for a second interview on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and then was hired. Doug Peterson, former head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, is their new head coach. We also saw

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, Eric, but Byron Leftwich,

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Speaker 1: who was very much in the running in Jacksonville, removed

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Speaker 1: his name from consideration and he's a former first round

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00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: pick of the Jags, like there's some history there. So

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Speaker 1: I found that to be very interesting. I know, Jacksonville

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00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: kind of under some criticism with some of their hiring

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Speaker 1: process because it did appear a little disjointed at times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is interesting with Byron left which because as a

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Speaker 1: first time head coach, you want to hop into the

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00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: best situation, but you never know when that next opportunity

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Speaker 1: is going to come back around. Right if you stay

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for the Bucks and you don't have

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady next year and you don't know who necessarily

624
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: your quarterback's going to be, if you don't have another

625
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: successful season on offense, you might not get that opportunity again.

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Speaker 1: And so a lot of people would abide by the Hey,

627
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: just take what's available and try and make it work

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Speaker 1: the best you can, and at least you have that

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Speaker 1: head coaching experience, But I have respect for people like

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Speaker 1: Byron Left which that say, hey, look, if this isn't

631
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Speaker 1: going to be the right situation for me, I'm pulling

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Speaker 1: my name out even if I can make that jump

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Speaker 1: this year. And man, you know that's an organization that

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Speaker 1: I mean. I say this, and they knocked they knocked

635
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: us out of the playoffs my final year. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like that they're always fighting up hill there.

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Speaker 1: And I know they don't have a monster market there

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Speaker 1: and you know, not a long standing fan base there,

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00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: but just seem to be constantly fighting uphill there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of wheel spinning. I do think it's a

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00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: good thing, at least as far as Trevor Lawrence is concerned.

642
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: That they got a guy with offensive play calling chops

643
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: in Peterson, who obviously comes from the Andy Reid coaching tree,

644
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: and those coaches have a pretty good track record with

645
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: quote unquote franchise quarterbacks, which is part of the reason

646
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I was surprised Left which didn't take it. Look, could

647
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: you find better organizations than the Jaguars in the NFL, Absolutely,

648
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: But at least you know you have what looks to

649
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback to build around. And that's why,

650
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, to your point Brady's retired, you don't really

651
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: have a firm succession plan in place a quarterback with

652
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Tampa that seems, at least at the quarterback position, to

653
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: be better if you're trying to build something up from

654
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: the ground up, which is clearly what they're doing there.

655
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I was a little perplexed by

656
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: that move by by Left, which but what do we know?

657
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: It's Peterson's the coach, and that's where you are, I know.

658
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: And it was so hard to judge Trevor Lawrence this

659
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: year because you had the turmoil with urban Meyer and

660
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: he's the first time head coach, and you know, who's

661
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: what kind of offense are they truly trying to establish

662
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: down there? You know? Is the protection good enough or

663
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: the weapons good enough? It was really hard to judge

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. And then in college they just really out

665
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: athleted so many people. You know, you talk about the

666
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: guys that Joe Burrow had to throw too, I mean

667
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, you know, similar deal, just weapons all over

668
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: the field. And the one thing that I know Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence has incredible skill and as a person, it just

670
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: checks every box as far as Chater goes. Man, I

671
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: just want I want to see him be just a

672
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: little more fast switch in the pocket. I just feel

673
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: like at times he's just a little slow and methodical.

674
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: And in the NFL, unless you are just super sharper

675
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: on your pre snap reads, you don't get bye by

676
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: being slow and methodical. Yeah, and so I think, and

677
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm counting these jobs off the top of my head.

678
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: We're just down to the Texans and Saints that still

679
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: have vacancies. I mean, a week ago we had seven

680
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: of the eight spots still open, so they filled up quickly.

681
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: Here Kevin O'Connell goes to the Vikings, and now Peterson

682
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: goes to the Jags. So you have Texans and Saints,

683
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: and supposedly Brian Flores is a finalist for the Texans job,

684
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: despite the fact that he filed a lawsuit. And as

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00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: you can imagine, Eric, we've been talking a lot about

686
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: that last couple of days as we see the respective

687
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: NFL clubs refuting his claims and his allegations in that lawsuit.

688
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of is he's got

689
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: to have convincing evidence for a lot of these allegations

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00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: that he has levied against the Dolphins, the Giants, and

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00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: the Giants by the way, yesterday came out with a

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00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: full itinerary of Brian Flores his schedule when he came

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Speaker 1: to interview in person with the Giants, and it's clear

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00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: it was an all day thing. I mean it wasn't like, yeah,

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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: come in for a couple hours, good to see. Uh,

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00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: you know, here's your plane ticket, thanks for coming. I

697
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: mean it was a full day schedule. I mean it

698
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: was there for like eight nine hours. Yeah, it's interesting.

699
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: And if they already knew that they wanted to hire

700
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Brian Dayball eventually, were they going to try to get

701
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: him to be the defensive coordinator there with Brian day Ball.

702
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: You don't know those things, but man, I'm with you

703
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're looking at the NFL and

704
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: you've seen the track record of people that speak out

705
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: against I'll save the Shield. I know this was targeted

706
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: allegations out a few organizations, but when you're talking, you know,

707
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: when you speak out against that shield, no matter what

708
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: it is, we've seen those guys just kind of go away,

709
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: and you know, it's um defend one NFL organization, one

710
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: NFL owner and all kind they all kind of look

711
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: out for each other because you know, you have such

712
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: a powerful brand you always have to protect and very

713
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: very very serious allegations, especially when you consider the fact

714
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm looking at it from a player.

715
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: You know, people have talked about the gambling side of

716
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: it now, and you know, is that compromising the competition,

717
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: the integrity of the game. And when I if I

718
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: was a player on those teams, or if if something

719
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: came out about the teams that I was on that

720
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: really struggled. But we're fighting tooth and now we're putting

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Speaker 1: our body on the line every week. If I found

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00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: out that my head coach was getting paid to lose games,

723
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: and look, I'm not naive. Towards the end of some

724
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: of those seasons, when we're eliminated from the playoffs, I'm

725
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: sure there were some people in the front office that

726
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: wanted us to lose and get a better draft pick,

727
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: and that's fine, but coaches and players, I need to

728
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: know we're all in because we're going out there and

729
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: we're fighting every week. We want to keep our jobs.

730
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I never want to make it seem

731
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: like what we do is too heroic on a football field.

732
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: We're not outsaving lives and we're not defending the country.

733
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: But it's a very violent game. I mean, I left

734
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: the game with a neck injury that almost left me

735
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: a paraplegiate, with loss of respiratory function, with the disc

736
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: and bone sitting into my spinal cord where it was.

737
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you're putting your body on the line. If

738
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: there was incentive for the coaching staff to maybe call

739
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: plays in a certain way, make decisions throughout the game

740
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: in a certain way that would financially impact them, I'd

741
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: be pretty offended, to put it lightly, I would be

742
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: offended by that situation. And there's I mean, you talk

743
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: about tax implications, like, well, they lost eleven games that year,

744
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: did he get paid one point one million? Where's the

745
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: tax off of that? You know, there's a lot that

746
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: goes into these allegations, right, It'll be interesting to see

747
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: how the league chooses to handle it. Worked. I mean,

748
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm kind of wondering, even though you know his demands

749
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: for better results in terms of minority hiring practices in

750
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: the league, particularly at the head coaching and the general

751
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: manager level, while they are completely warranted. The numbers speak

752
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: for themselves. I worry that his allegations against the Dolphins

753
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: about the integrity of the game are going to overshadow

754
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: the minority hiring practices that he is trying to draw

755
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: attention to. It's almost like they should have been two

756
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: separate lawsuits because I believe that the league is going

757
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: to pay more attention to that that is more front

758
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: burner material because it attacks the very fabric of your

759
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: game and the integrity of it. I think they're going

760
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: to be fighting that tooth and nail first, which I think, unfortunately,

761
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: is going to push his desire to see changes in

762
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: the minority hiring practices fall by the wayside. Yeah, I

763
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: think you're exactly right. And I asked Leslie Frasier last

764
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: year on my podcast. I asked him about the Rooney

765
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: rule in particular, and the way I was looking at

766
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: it was and this was me simply knowing Leslie Frasier

767
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: and being around him. I said, the Rooney rule would

768
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: offend me if I was Leslie Frasier and I was

769
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: simply only brought into an interview because I needed to

770
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: check a box in the interview process. And I said,

771
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: does it offend you? Because Leslie Frasier is one of

772
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: the best men, one of the best leaders, one of

773
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: the best coaches I've ever been around. And so I

774
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: was looking at it from the perspective of if I'm

775
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: only being brought in because of the color of my

776
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: skin and I'm Leslie Frasier, then I'm offended. And Leslie

777
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: knew where I was coming from, and I knew I

778
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: could ask them that to him in a way that

779
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't offend him without the color of my skin being black.

780
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: I was truly inquisitive about it. And what Leslie told

781
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: me was at one time, black head coaching candidates couldn't

782
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: even get an interview. So while the times have changed,

783
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: obviously still not perfect, they needed that because they weren't

784
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: even getting the opportunity for so long. So even though

785
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser may be an exception where in a normal

786
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: head coaching interview cycle he's going to get interviews just

787
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: based upon his resume and track record as a player,

788
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: as a coach, what he's done along the way, there's

789
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: so many others that wouldn't get that opportunity, potentially just

790
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: based upon the color of their skin. And you know

791
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: it's you mentioned the numbers speak for themselves. Yeah, and

792
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: this is a conversation as I feel like we had

793
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: this conversation and last year on one Bill's Live and

794
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: it was me, you and Steve and as three white

795
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: males who sometimes it's hard for us to speak matter

796
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: of factly on this because it's an experience that we've

797
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: never had. But being so close with so many coaches

798
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: and players that are minorities in the league, to think

799
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: that this still goes on is a shame. And I

800
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: think at times of the Rooney rule forces some unfair

801
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 1: interview practices because you made the Giants. You know, Joe

802
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: Shane may have known from the second he got the job,

803
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: if Brian day Ball will take it, that's my guy.

804
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: You know, they have familiarity over years in Buffalo. Well,

805
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: now you have to bring in a minority candidate simply

806
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: to say you that you interviewed one, Well, then that

807
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: becomes a really unfair situation for that guy getting that

808
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: interview in Brian Flores in this case, right, because it's

809
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: almost like Dable as a leader in the clubhouse, and

810
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: with good reason, because there's a history there. You feel

811
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: like you're in lockstep already. There isn't that feeling each

812
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: other out period. It just allows you to hit the

813
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: ground running that much faster and get ahead of the game.

814
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: So you understand why people hire some people that they're

815
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: familiar with. You get it. But at the same time,

816
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: that's the crux of the problem, and I know we're

817
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: up against the break here. We gotta take a break.

818
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: The crux of the problem is you have these people

819
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: in the pipeline that aren't black or of a minority,

820
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: and because they're they're not in there getting those kinds

821
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: of interviews because they don't have the track record of

822
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: experience or work experience with those people in those higher

823
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: positions that are doing the hiring, and that's why they're

824
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: trying to upwardly lift some minorities into those higher ranking positions.

825
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: But as of right now, you've got Mike Tomlin as

826
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: the only black head coach. You have Ron Rivera as

827
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: a Hispanic head coach, and you have Robert Sala, who

828
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: I believe is Lebanese American. Those are your only minorities

829
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: in the head coaching roles in the league right now,

830
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: and it doesn't look at the least at this point

831
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: like that's going to change to any great certainty. With

832
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: only two more open jobs remaining, we have to take

833
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: a break here, but we're back with more, including some

834
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: of your comments on the OBL Fan Friday mail Bag.

835
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: Eric and I'll answer some of those questions next here

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back, Chris Brown, Eric

838
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Wood with you, and we'll jump right to the phones

839
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: and then get into the fan Friday mail bag questions

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00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: that you have and leading us off here is John

841
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: and Buffalo what do you have for us? John, You're

842
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. Hey, good afternoon. I was curious

843
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: it seems that Frida and Flores happened to twenty ninety

844
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: it's now twenty twenty two, and nobody's bringing up the

845
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: issue that you know that he didn't have a problem

846
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: with it then, but now that we get an that

847
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: coaching job, now it's coming out that, well this happened.

848
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: They offered me this. I mean, it's all about integrity. Well,

849
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: where was the integrity back in twenty nineteen when it happened, Well, right,

850
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he could have easily reported it then and

851
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: having not then done that. It makes you wonder why.

852
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: But he's also not the only coach. Now, all of

853
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you have Cleveland coach Jackton coming out saying

854
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: the same thing. Well, you know, now I am an

855
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: obligation because Brian Floyd came out. It's like, you know,

856
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: where are these coaches, where's their obligations that people playing,

857
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Like Eric Wood said, you know, yeah, no iet injured. Yeah,

858
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: they're playing hurt and soul. Yeah, I get it, John Um.

859
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: I think, as Eric pointed out earlier, though, people that

860
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: come out and speak out against the league or sue

861
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: the league, as Eric said, they tend to just fade way.

862
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Colin Kaepernick, when's the last time you heard

863
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: from him? I mean, he was brave to take the

864
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: stand that he did, but the league essentially just made

865
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: him disappear. I mean, did he deserve to get another

866
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: job in the NFL? Was he probably one of the

867
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: best thirty two quarterbacks in the you know out there

868
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: to be on a team. Probably he didn't even get

869
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: a sniff. What did he get want he had he

870
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: had to hold a public tryout. He couldn't even get

871
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: a tryout anywhere. So you know that I would imagine

872
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: led to some reluctance on his part. And I think

873
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: while he didn't accept it, and I would assume Eric

874
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of other minority coaches that

875
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: are in this boat. They're frustrated by the process, but

876
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: they don't also want to jeopardize their career at the

877
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: same time. And I think the Bill Belichick text exchange,

878
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: at least to me, appears to be the last the

879
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: final straw for him. I think that's what put him

880
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: over the edge and convinced him to file a lawsuit. Yeah,

881
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I think you're right on that, Chris. And you can't

882
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: just say, well, just because he said it now, it

883
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: never applied prior or you can't fault him for waiting

884
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: till he said it when he felt the timing was right.

885
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: And I think your last point hit the nail on

886
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: the head. It hits a boiling point when somebody knew

887
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: prior to the fact of you even interviewing and and

888
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, the Giants had this full

889
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: scripted deal. Well, maybe they wanted to get him to

890
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: potentially be the offense or the defensive coordinator there, right,

891
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the Giants claim, you know he was a

892
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: candidate up until the eleventh hour. But there is a

893
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: coaching history between Brian Dable and Brian Flores. I mean

894
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: they worked together on Bill Belichick's staff in New England, which,

895
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: unfortunately is why Belichick probably had his wires crossed with

896
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: his texting, because he's probably got Brian Dable and Brian

897
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: Flores I mean d ef there aren't too many letters

898
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: in the alphabet between D and F and he texts

899
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. I mean, oh, is that just scream

900
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: of seventy year old grandpa not knowing how to use

901
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: his phone? Good lord man. I will say this, there's

902
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times when I'm going to send a

903
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: text about someone and then you go to punch in

904
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: the name of who you're going to send it to,

905
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: and that's the name that kind of fits your brain,

906
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: which can be a very dangerous situation if you're talking

907
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: smack about somebody. There you go not something to do.

908
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: For sure. We've all been there. I mean, I'm not

909
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: trying to pick on Bellichi well I kind of am

910
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, but we've all been there. It is

911
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: what it is, all right. We have to take a

912
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: break here because when we come back, we're going to

913
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: be joined by CBS NFL player and draft analyst Chris Trepasso.

914
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: Going to kind of get us an early look see

915
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: at what the Bills might be thinking come the twenty

916
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL drafts. Hard to believe, it's still a

917
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: way off, but it's never too early to get started.

918
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: So we'll do that with Chris Trepasso. Next here on

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00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo

920
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all

921
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of

922
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you. St Steve a blimp.

923
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: We're not even in the strated sphere of normalcy, all right.

924
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Our number two here on Friday, the snow is flying

925
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: here in Western New York and pleased to bring in

926
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: a Western New York native at this time. CBS Sports

927
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: NFL Draft analyst Chris Trapasso joining us. Chris, thanks for

928
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: giving us some time, and you know you've been You've

929
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: been busy on the CBS Sports dot Com side of things,

930
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: already diving headlong into the off season, which I think

931
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: for Bills fans unceremoniously started a week earlier at the

932
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: very least than they anticipated. So we figured we'd dive

933
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: in behind you after we've licked all our wounds and

934
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: gotten over our disappointment. So I think to try to

935
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: wet the appetites of Bills fans and get them excited

936
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: about Bill's football again, why don't we start just with

937
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: the piece that you put together about draft plans, the

938
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: best laid draft plans perhaps for the Bills going forward.

939
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: This may not be universally accepted by Bills fans, but

940
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm on board with it. Cornerback early, yeah, I think

941
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: that is the one area of need for this team

942
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: that seems the most glaring. And we know during the

943
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean era he's really been fine with picking cornerbacks

944
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: later in the draft, using undrafted free agents like Levi Wallace.

945
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: But I think with Tredavious White coming off of his

946
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: ACL tear, Levi Wallace maybe not around in the fall

947
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: because he's hitting free agency to go with a marquee

948
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: talent at the cornerback position. And in my article I

949
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: had them picking Andrew Booth from Clemson, who was a

950
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: big time recruit just a few years ago. A little

951
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: bit raw, but the athleticism is through the roof, and

952
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: we also know that during the Brandon being in Sean

953
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: McDermott era, they've really been keen on those maybe slightly raw,

954
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: but high caliber athletes like Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmonds, Gregory Rousseau,

955
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: and Spencer Brown last year. So Andrew Bruth I think

956
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: would be the right value at pick number twenty five

957
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: and would fill a need with the specific type of

958
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: player that the Bills like. Yeah, when you look back

959
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: at this season and you look at Brandon being drafting overall,

960
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: what kind of gray would you give him? On the

961
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: rookies in Buffalo this past year, Well, I think the

962
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: rookie last performed a lot better than I expected. I

963
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: was kind of out there publicly not a huge fan

964
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: of the Gregory Rousseau pick because I knew that Rousseau

965
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: is probably a year or two away from being that

966
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: instant or that big time impact edge rusher. But he

967
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: was better than I expected against the run At like

968
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: sixty seven, just north of two hundred and fifty or

969
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: sixty pounds, he has a lot of weight and power

970
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: that he can add to his frame. But I thought

971
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: on first and second down he did a tremendous job

972
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: not only setting the edge, but also getting off blocks

973
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: and using that large tackling radius to bring down a

974
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: lot of ball carriers. Now it's all up to him

975
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: at this point this offseason and entering year two to

976
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: get bigger and stronger and add some moves to his

977
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: pass rushing arsenal. But that pick I was surprised with,

978
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: and I think Spencer Brown there was so much mystery

979
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: surrounding him, not only being from northern Iowa, but the

980
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't have a season in twenty twenty.

981
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: The Bills pick him in the third round, almost six

982
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: foot nine, just north of three hundred pounds, and Eric,

983
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, he has a lot of weight that he

984
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: could add to that very tall frame to be thrust

985
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: into the starting lineup in Week four and certainly having

986
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: his ups and downs. But I thought later in this

987
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: season it didn't look too big for him that situation

988
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: being the starting right tackle. So for a draft class

989
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: that we knew going in in twenty twenty one was

990
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: not going to be super sexy for the Bills because

991
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: they retained so many key pieces from that AFC championship

992
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: team a year ago to build in the trenches, not

993
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: only on the defensive side, but offensively, I think Brandon

994
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: Bean had another very strong draft. Yeah, and while I

995
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: agree that, I think draft is the way they go

996
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: with respective cornerback, and probably early because to me, in

997
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: free agency, knowing they're not always going to swing big

998
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: there and knowing how what a high cost position cornerback

999
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: is on the free agent market, the draft makes sense.

1000
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: I think there's a little more debate when you want

1001
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: talk receiver because you could argue that the Bills have

1002
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: youth in the pipeline, Isaiah Hodgens being the most notable

1003
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: of that bunch. I mean, Gabriel Davis has already established

1004
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: himself and is probably going to challenge from the number

1005
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: two wide receiver spot on the roster. So you say, okay,

1006
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: I could see them adding a receiver, but do they

1007
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: add one early or do they opt to go the

1008
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: free agency route find it, you know, a B tier

1009
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: free agent instead that you know can adapt to a

1010
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: system and perform right away. Knowing the Bills are in

1011
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: the go for it windows, so to speak, they don't

1012
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: want to wait on anybody, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1013
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: if you look back at obviously at what Brandon Bean

1014
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: has done, like the way he's like to at tech

1015
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: the receiver position. It's been via the trade market or

1016
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: signing a mid tier free agent, whether it was John

1017
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Brown or Cole Beasley, trading for Stefon Diggs. Obviously, I

1018
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: don't think that necessarily has to be the way he

1019
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: always goes about it. And I always think back to

1020
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: when I'm looking forward toward these Bills draft plans, what

1021
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott said last offseason that the Bills did not

1022
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: want to lose their fastball. They wanted to still be

1023
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: a pass heavy team that was going to use three

1024
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: and four wide receivers a lot. We know now with

1025
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen establishing himself as a superstar at the NFL level,

1026
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw the ball five hundred plus times a season,

1027
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of targets to go around. I

1028
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: would be fine with them going receiver in round one

1029
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: or round two, which right now seems like a surplus

1030
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: of wide receivers, but I think we saw late in

1031
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: the year when there's injuries here and there and you

1032
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: need someone to step up to have more receivers is

1033
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: better than if you're having to elevate practice squad and

1034
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: late round guys to help Josh Allen in his offense

1035
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: continue to be high powered. In twenty twenty two, you

1036
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: mentioned that this year the Bills were returning so many

1037
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: players off that AFC championship team, and the way it

1038
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: will likely shake out, they'll return a lot of players again,

1039
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: so there's not many holes on this roster, and there

1040
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: might not be a talent all over this roster. There's

1041
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: just not very many holes. So then you find then

1042
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: you look, where is this draft deepest positionally? And so

1043
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: we'll ask you where do you see the Bills being

1044
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: able to find some value in this draft, even if

1045
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: it becomes a depth type player or a developmental player. Yeah,

1046
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: I'll go with the running back spot. And I know

1047
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people on Twitter have reached out to

1048
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: me wondering, you know, should the Bills pick a running

1049
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: back in the second or the third round. I don't

1050
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: think it needs to be that early because Devin Singletary

1051
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: down the stretch showcase that he can be a feature

1052
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: back in this offense that's not really feature back centric.

1053
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: I think he's good enough. But the running back position

1054
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: rounds four or five, six, I think that's the correct value.

1055
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: If you're not looking for a twenty plus touch per

1056
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: game running back. Rashad White from Arizona State is super good.

1057
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce from Florida's kind of a bigger Zach Moss

1058
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: type back. It's certainly a class that has the marquis talents,

1059
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: probably none in the first round this year, but fourth, fifth,

1060
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: and sixth round. I think the Bills, if they have

1061
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: addressed the other more pressing positions, could get a quality

1062
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: running back that can be a contributor early in his

1063
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: career with the Bills. And then I think a lot

1064
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: of Bills fans are of the opinion that, Wow, this

1065
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Speaker 1: team's invested heavily early in the draft in defensive linemen

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Speaker 1: each of the last three years. Aj Epenesa their top

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Speaker 1: pick a couple of years ago, at Oliver the year

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Speaker 1: before that, and then as you already mentioned Rousseau and

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Speaker 1: then bash them to follow this past year. There's no

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Speaker 1: way they're going back to that well early again. But

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Speaker 1: then you look at the free agent list, Chris, and

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Speaker 1: you got if you count restricted free agent Justin Zimmer,

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Speaker 1: you've got eight players whose contracts are up on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line on this roster. You have to go back

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Speaker 1: to the well, and I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: wait super long, so you might be looking at a

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Speaker 1: day to pick on the defensive line again this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good point. Position, whether it be interior

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman or an edge rusher might seem surprising to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, but shouldn't be because we know

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Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott Brandon Being their philosophies kind of gelled

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Speaker 1: together that they are the defense that likes to rotate

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Speaker 1: more than any other in the entire league. And I

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Speaker 1: always say it to my dad, who's a huge Bills fan.

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Speaker 1: The Bills want to be really fresh on their defensive

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Speaker 1: line in the fourth quarter of games and in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the season. And I think that's exactly

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Speaker 1: why we saw the Bills defensive line play a lot

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Speaker 1: better down the stretch and in the playoffs, because there

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Speaker 1: weren't a lot of seven hundred, eight hundred snap players

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Speaker 1: that were had dead legs in the playoffs. So I think,

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Speaker 1: looking back to their time in Carolina together, Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: and Brandon Being want to keep those players fresh, have

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Speaker 1: a lot of youth upfront, and depending on the futures

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Speaker 1: of Mario Addison and Jerry Hughes, and really I think

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Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes should be offered a one year deal just

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Speaker 1: to be a pass rushing specialist. But if both of

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Speaker 1: those players are gone, or if just one of them

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Speaker 1: is gone, they could also go first or second round

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. I do believe that the Bills because the

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Speaker 1: roster is very good. We hear it from Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: in a lot of GMS. They are in a best

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Speaker 1: player available scenario that like Eric said, there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of glaring weaknesses or holes, but they can add

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Speaker 1: depth at really a lot of spots. There's edge rushing

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Speaker 1: depth too, right though. I mean it's pretty good edge

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Speaker 1: rushing class this year. Yeah, it is. This The interior

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Speaker 1: is not great. There's two interior rushers from Georgia, a

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Speaker 1: big nose tackle Jordan Davis and DeVante Wyatt who kind

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Speaker 1: of reminds me of Marcel Darius. Besides that, it's not

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Speaker 1: that great of an interior group. The edge rusher class

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Speaker 1: is super deep, Like it's not just Aiden Hutchinson in

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Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau from Oregon. I think late first and deep

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Speaker 1: into the second, probably even into the third round. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of not only just quality edge rushers, but

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Speaker 1: those bigger, oversized types that the Bills seem to like

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Speaker 1: that can also kick inside and be nickel rusher on third. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because elite pass rusher like whether Greg russol epinessa Biggie

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Speaker 1: Basham if it's to be seen if any of those

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna be that elite rusher for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: And that's what they need, like a guy that can

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Speaker 1: definitely get home in an obvious pass rush situation that

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Speaker 1: seemed to be a glading weakness throughout a majority of

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Speaker 1: the season. I know the Bills have absolutely no need,

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Speaker 1: especially early, to draft a quarterback with Trubisky becoming a

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Speaker 1: free agent. You could maybe draft one down the road,

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Speaker 1: but just look at this year's quarterback class. Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 1: Is he your obvious number one? And how many first

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Speaker 1: round quarterbacks are we looking at here? Actually, Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 1: is not my quarterback number one. I think his film

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one catapulted him from probably being a

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Speaker 1: Day three pick into the first round. My guy is

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis from Liberty, and he reminds me, or his

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Speaker 1: film at least so much of Josh Allen that he

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Speaker 1: was at a smaller school. When he got the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to face a Power five opponent at Ole Miss, he

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Speaker 1: threw a bunch of interceptions and everyone kind of trashed

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Speaker 1: him because of that, and it's stock plummeted. But the

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Speaker 1: arm talent is there, the improvisation ability, and that's really

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Speaker 1: what you want out of your quarterback today. To me,

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert and

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Speaker 1: then to a lesser extent skill wise, Joe Burrow, they're

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Speaker 1: the next wave of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I think Malik Willis, Kenny Pickett, we might see

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter from Cincinnati, and Matt Correll from Ole Miss.

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Speaker 1: We probably will get three, if not four quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the first round. It's not a great class. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot more question marks than there have been in the past,

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: but quarterbacks always get pushed up on draft night. And

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Speaker 1: then shifting gears to something you wrote earlier this week about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the NFL trends that kind of took hold

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01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: of the league in twenty twenty one and will probably

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01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: continue into twenty twenty two. I'm glad to see that

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01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: the Bills are kind of at the forefront on some

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Speaker 1: of these. Obviously they took part in the fourth down

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Speaker 1: aggressiveness that we witnessed league why this year, but maybe

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Speaker 1: more importantly passing on first down. Brian Dable, as the

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, was really kind of a pioneer on that.

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Speaker 1: They led the league in first down throwing percentage last year.

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Speaker 1: I believe they did again this year. I think the

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Speaker 1: number was slightly lower, but it was still tops in

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Speaker 1: the league, do you. I mean, there are a handful

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Speaker 1: of other teams that do it a lot too, but

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Speaker 1: not everybody. It's not a majority yet. You expect that

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Speaker 1: pool to get bigger next year? Yeah, I do. I

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Speaker 1: think just from the success of the Bills the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers over the past two seasons with Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: we're near the top of the league. It's just more

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Speaker 1: efficient to move the football throwing it, especially when you

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Speaker 1: have a good quarterback. The past two years on first down,

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Speaker 1: the Bills have averaged eight point five yards per play

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Speaker 1: as compared to just four yards per play rushing the ball.

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Speaker 1: And I think we're kind of in a new era

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Speaker 1: where coaches offenses are understanding, hey, we don't necessarily early

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Speaker 1: just want to try to get to third and short.

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Speaker 1: We want to maybe convert on second down to move

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Speaker 1: the chain. So I think when you have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen, all the weapons that they have and

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Speaker 1: a cohesive offensive line, that will certainly allow you to

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Speaker 1: do that a little bit more. And I think Dennis

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01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: Locke and the Bills analytics department have done a great

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Speaker 1: job giving the Bills just little edges here and there

1183
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: going forward on fourth down a lot more frequently throwing

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01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: the football on first down even in a tight game,

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Speaker 1: that you don't need to get conservative when the game

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01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: is close when you have a quarterback like that. So

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Speaker 1: I think moving forward with Ken Dorsey and Joe Brady,

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01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: fans don't have to worry about, Hey, is this Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable taking this philosophy out of one Bill's drive. I

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Speaker 1: think with Dennis Locke again and the analytics department, they

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Speaker 1: really push that because that's how you can move the

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Speaker 1: football a lot more efficiently and score more points. And

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Speaker 1: last one, for me, it's amazing when you look at

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Speaker 1: the Bills first down past percentage and past percentage overall,

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Speaker 1: but then their play action percentage overall is one of

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Speaker 1: the tops in the league, so they still are giving

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Speaker 1: you that threat even though they're not utilizing as much.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the article as well, the two point conversions

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Speaker 1: were up this year. Are there any trends looking towards

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two that you expect to maybe be in

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: your postseason assessment next years as continuing to see these

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Speaker 1: new trends in football. Yeah, just a quick note on

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Speaker 1: the play action thing. I want to get it out

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Speaker 1: there that there is a long time fallacy that you

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Speaker 1: had to be a really good running team to be

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Speaker 1: effective using play action. No, you just need to show

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Speaker 1: the football to those linebackers. They're going to sync downhill.

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: The middle of the field will be wide open. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I was getting at the Dennis lock and

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Speaker 1: the analytics department has done such a good job just

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Speaker 1: to give Josh Allen in the Bill's offense a little

1212
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Speaker 1: edge here and a little edge there to not only

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Speaker 1: just be good with their execution and their talent, but

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Speaker 1: just have those extra advantages in terms of moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I think yards after the catch. We're going to continue

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Speaker 1: to see that. We saw Deebo Samuel in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: to invent this new wide back position. Quarterrell Patterson for

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Speaker 1: the Falcons this year kind of played running back and

1219
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. And the fact that the top three teams

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Speaker 1: in yards after the catch per reception this season where

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Bengals and forty nine Ers. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams will take that into twenty twenty two

1223
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, not only do we want to be

1224
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Speaker 1: very sharp running routes making the right reads at the

1225
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Speaker 1: quarterback position, we want to be able to hit a

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Speaker 1: five yard slant on an RPO and maybe turn that

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Speaker 1: into a twenty five yard game. The Bills were actually

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Speaker 1: the second lowest team in terms of yards after the

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Speaker 1: catch per reception this year, which really speaks to Josh

1230
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Speaker 1: Allen and what he can do with his arm strength.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the one area specifically that the Bills

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Speaker 1: have a fair amount of improvement to make or room

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Speaker 1: for improvement this offseason. Get more players that can create

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Speaker 1: with the ball in your hands. Yeah. I actually think

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis right now might be the best yards after

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Speaker 1: catch guy they have on the roster, and he certainly

1237
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Speaker 1: proved that to a certain degree in the Chiefs playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I have kind of gone back and forth

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: on the yards after catch argument for the Bills knowing

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01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: they've ranked low the last couple of years, as you mentioned,

1241
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Speaker 1: and Steve has an interesting take on that. He's of

1242
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: the opinion that Josh is the kind of quarterback when

1243
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: he throws, he is a put it on you quarterback.

1244
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: He is not, in like an anticipatory thrower that will

1245
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: lead the receiver into the space with his throws. He

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01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: will put it on you, like between the numbers, no

1247
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: matter where you are on the field because he can.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes that in turn prevents the opportunity for yards

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Speaker 1: after catch. I wonder if that's an adjustment that he

1250
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: tries to make as a passer or if they just

1251
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: try to find receivers that are more of the yards

1252
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: after catch variety. Yeah, that's a good point from Steve.

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Speaker 1: I think two it was scheme related, and I think

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,479
Speaker 1: Eric could certainly speak more to this calling the games

1255
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: for the radio that with Josh Allen's arm strength, they

1256
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: were throwing a lot of passes outside the numbers from

1257
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: the fire hash where players were catching the football going

1258
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: out of bounds and for a lot of the teams,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Chiefs, Bengals and forty nine ers. Being

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Speaker 1: in the top three in that stat is telling, But

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Speaker 1: a lot of the teams inside the top ten had

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Speaker 1: to kind of manufacture completions for their quarterbacks where they

1263
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: don't maybe trust their quarterbacks throwing the football deep down

1264
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Speaker 1: the field, those long throws towards the sideline. So I

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Speaker 1: think a little bit is scheam related. It's not like

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and Gabriel Davis and even Pole Beasley didn't

1267
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: make anyone miss all season. They certainly did. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see if maybe Ken Dorsey and Joe Brady like to

1269
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: manufacture some of those swing passes and tunnel screens to

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Speaker 1: wide receivers a little bit more frequently next year than

1271
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Speaker 1: what Brian Dable had done the past four seasons. Yeah,

1272
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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the Bills screen game

1273
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: especially was it has been bad these last couple of years.

1274
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills at one point of this season

1275
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: when they were giving them that two shell and teams

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01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: were just sitting back. They try to use utilize Cole

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: Beasley almost in that extended handoff role, and then he

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: got the rib injury. But against especially against Jacksonville and

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Speaker 1: kind of that little stretch in the middle of the season,

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: they were going to those bubble screens and they just

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01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: weren't getting anything from it. And so part of that

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 1: is the reason that when you look at a Chiefs team,

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: they're so effective in those tunnel and bubble screens on

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Speaker 1: the outside. Some of it's the personnel when you look

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Speaker 1: at Hardman and you look at Hill on the outside.

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Bills could could definitely improve on their

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: screen game, And to me that means, yeah, I think

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: that's a good point. And I think and kind of

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01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: to Eric's point in his former position, the fact that

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01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: the Bills during that stretch, we're dealing with a lot

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: of different pieces up front on their offensive line, there's

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01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: probably a lot of communication and continuity that can help

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01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: moving forward. So to enter an offseason and then potentially

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01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: week one, probably week one with the same starting five

1295
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: that was on the field of net Visional Round playoff

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01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: game certainly would probably help to move that screen game forward. Yeah,

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01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: also begs the question do you want to add more

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01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: speed and juice to your offense and maybe your defense

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: for that matter, so you can keep up with some

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: of those track meet teams like the Chiefs. All right, Chris, listen,

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much for the insight. We'll keep an eye

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: on your work at CBS Sports dot Com and catch

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01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: up with you down the line. Thanks very much. Have

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: a good weekend, all right, guys, you two thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks very trash O, Chris Trpasso, that's CBS

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: Sports dot Com NFL draft analyst. We'll be back with

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01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: more on the other side. Eric and me here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Collid to help. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bills Live.

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01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Eric Wood with you here on a Friday,

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01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: and a good conversation there with Chris Trpasso, not only

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: about early early look at Bill's potential draft plans. I

1313
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: always I meant to tell Chris, is I feel bad

1314
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: for these guys that get these draft prediction assignments before

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: free agency, Like what are you doing? A writer there,

1316
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: Like that's a tough I mean, how can you even

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01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: predict that before you see what the team acquired in

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: free agency. I don't envy him when he gets those

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01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: kinds of assignments in January or February, Oh, no doubt

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: about it, and they start putting those out, you know,

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01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: midway through the college football season. Yeah, you know, as

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01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: soon as they get some film on these guys and

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01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: in their college football season, they're starting to project them out.

1324
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: They'll project out where the draft order is. So you

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: don't even know, but it's all about putting out there.

1326
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: When you have this big animal of the NFL and

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01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: people just want the content constantly, Yeah, then you get

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: things like that. But yeah, when you look at it,

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01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I've looked at it. His latest one

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: had slot receiver as the second one, so you don't

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01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, they had Wandell Robinson from Kentucky, who's a

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: heck of a ballplayer, and it can be a gadget

1333
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: type player for a Ken Dorsey where you saw Rondel

1334
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: Moore out in Arizona this year, a guy who could

1335
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: carry the ball in the backfield to catch it at slot.

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01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: So almost similar what we're talking about, that wide back position.

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: And so that's who had projected the Bills in the

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: second But if they resign, isam McKenzie, that's the role

1339
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: that he's drafting him to play. To your point, Yeah,

1340
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: so we'll have to wait and see on that and

1341
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: maybe the picture gets a little bit clearer. Let's go

1342
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: to the phone, though, and waiting for us. There is

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: Leslie and Buffalo. Leslie, what do you have for us?

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Hi, how are you doing?

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01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: What do you have for us? Okay? Well, I just

1346
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: have one question, maybe two? How would Glass Campbell and

1347
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: Mike Evans bluff? Do you think we'll ever get NBA

1348
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: team back in Buffalo? Oh? No way to know that, Leslie.

1349
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: NBA team back in Buffalo will be great. But I

1350
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: don't even think that's on the radar for anybody. As

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01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: far as picking up players, Calais Campbell's getting a little

1352
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: long in the tooth. Still pretty darn good, though You've

1353
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: had plenty of chances to go against him. He's a beast, right,

1354
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: He is a beast, and he's so big and strong.

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: I actually played against him in college and in the NFL.

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: I played against him when he played at the University

1357
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: of Miami. Whether he fits our defense perfectly, I'm not

1358
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: exactly sure. He's generally played in a three down scheme.

1359
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: Now three down schemes look a whole lot like four

1360
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: down schemes. Nowadays, not many teams run that traditional three four.

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01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: He's most suited to be that guy that lines up

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01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: over the tackle in a traditional three four. Now that's

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01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of been distorted over the years where he plays

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of three technique, or he could play that

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 1: kind of strong defensive end. All that being said, I

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: don't know that he's a perfect fit for this scheme

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: in our specific needs. But depending if he wanted to

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01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: come here and chase a Super Bowl ring and wanted

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01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: to do it at a really discounted rate, awesome man,

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: awesome player. You find a role for a guy like

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: that if you can get him cheap enough. But with

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Speaker 1: him not being a specific need, I cannot see Brandon

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01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: being in that front office breaking the bank for a

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: guy like him, just because they're they're always so prudent

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: in getting specific fits. Right he is. You know, this

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: is going to be by the time the season starts,

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: it'll be his age thirty sixth season, so I mean

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01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: his birthday September first, he turns thirty six right before

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: the season starts. At that age, the price probably goes down.

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: You have to you know, again, as Brandon being always says,

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01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: you have to assess the value. Thought, he still had

1382
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: a relatively productive season last year for Baltimore. Their defense

1383
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: did fall off and they're changing coordinators. There is that

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: enough to make him look elsewhere? I don't know. Leslie

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: also mentioned Mike Evans, to my ology is not a

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: free agent. Maybe he's thinking of Chris Godwin who is

1387
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: and is coming off a major knee injury which was

1388
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: actually suffered in the game against the Bills in Week fourteen,

1389
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: and that was a season ender. I think it was

1390
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: an ACL So he's kind of a question mark talented player,

1391
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: but he's got some rehab to do and so that

1392
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: will require some extra due diligence on the part of

1393
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: the teams that may or may not be interested in

1394
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: him as a free agent. So we'll have to see

1395
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: where that goes. Let's get to the tweet sheet here

1396
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: and open up the OBIL Friday fan mail bag, which

1397
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,919
Speaker 1: is always is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

1398
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills and Eric.

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01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: We start with Jeremy, who asks what is the timeline

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01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: for trade to come back? And can we assume our

1401
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: first rounder would be a nice speedy corner despite being

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01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: a top d I'd love to see the first two

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01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: picks beyond defense again, like last year, speedy corner and

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: d line again, what do you say to that, Well,

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01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: timeline for Trey coming back, it's generally seven to nine

1406
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: months to when you can resume football activities. That was

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01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: about my exact timeline I did an ACL injury throughout

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01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: my career. Now, cornerbacks have different you know, sometimes these

1409
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: skill guys can get back sooner because they don't play

1410
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 1: with as much body weight as at a reactionary position

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01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: like corner. I would assume it takes him that full

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: seven to nine months, and we'll be able to assess

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: during training camp, not OTAs during training camp what he's

1414
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: exactly going to be able to be like, especially early on,

1415
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 1: but a guy who's not faced a lot of injuries

1416
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: in his career, I'd assume Trudavious White should be good

1417
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: to go from this. You know, you never know the

1418
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: medical history, but he should be good to go. And

1419
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: I like speedy corner or defensive line early in the

1420
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: draft you mentioned earlier, Chris, and that was one of

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: my favorite points that you made in regards to the

1422
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: fact that corners an expensive position to hit in free agency,

1423
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: and when you have a quarterback like Josh Allen who

1424
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: just hit one of these mega deals. You always had

1425
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: to be conscious of pass rushers. Pass rushers, corners, maybe

1426
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: a number one receiver, and a left tackle. Those are

1427
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: gonna be your most expensive positions outside of the quarterback position.

1428
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: So if you can draft any of those guys early

1429
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: and get those guys to play early, that's gonna bode

1430
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 1: well as opposed to going out there and saying, hey,

1431
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay a like a Matthew Judon who went

1432
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: to the Patriots and has played it really well for them,

1433
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: has been an impact off the edge. Well, the Bills

1434
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: don't have fifteen million necessarily to give one of those guys,

1435
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: especially if they're looking to keep retaining their own. So yes,

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Speaker 1: if you can add a speedy corner or an elite

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01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: pass rusher in round one, I'm not against it. Yeah,

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01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, call me old school, but I might even

1439
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: be inclined. I mean, I'm assuming Harrison Phillips is a

1440
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: priority to resign going forward. He's probably based on his

1441
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: age and knowing he's entering the prime of his career,

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01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: He's probably one of the highest, if not the highest priority,

1443
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: among the defensive line free agents that the Bills have.

1444
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: They have eight. If you count Justin Zimmer as a

1445
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: restricted free agent who's coming off an ACL injury, so

1446
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they resign him. But even then, the depth

1447
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: isn't there behind him, so I think they're gonna have

1448
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: to add there in the draft. How high a priority

1449
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: they put on that I think remains to be seen.

1450
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, knowing the class is deeper at edge rusher

1451
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: than it is at defensive tackle, it kind of makes

1452
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 1: me wonder if they swing early on DT and then wait,

1453
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: maybe an extra round on defensive end. Of course, now

1454
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 1: we're getting to the fourth round. They haven't even a

1455
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: draft offense yet, which is kind of crazy to think,

1456
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: but stranger things have happened. Man, I'm telling you, yeah, no,

1457
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me. And we talked about it before.

1458
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: The Bills are the Rocks are so good that there's

1459
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: no glaring needs. Now we'll get a better picture after

1460
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: free agency. There may be more glaring needs. But man,

1461
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned Harrison Phillips. The Bill's defensive line played so

1462
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: much better in that last corner of the season, and

1463
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: in that last quarter of the season, the two guys

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01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: that stood out to me the most were Harrison Phillips

1465
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: and Ed Oliver. Those guys played excellent. Ed had a

1466
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: consistent year all year, you know, really making splash plays.

1467
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: Is get Off was so good this year. Who's disruptive?

1468
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: I thought he played smarter towards the end. His run

1469
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: recognition was better. But Harrison Phillips played so good. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought early in his career he was

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01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: probably an underrated pass rusher and maybe a little bit

1472
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: of an overrated run stuffer. And I thought he put

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01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: it all together, especially in that last quarter of the season.

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Speaker 1: When you look at that Bill's defensive line and their

1475
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: biggest weakness I felt like throughout most of the season

1476
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: was their four man pass rush. Well it became a

1477
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: strength now. Their offensive line competition in that last kind

1478
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: of quarter of the season wasn't that great. They're generally

1479
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: playing with the lead. But those two in the middle.

1480
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: You bring back Harrison Phillips and they've pretty much made

1481
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: it none. You're going to exercise that fifth year option

1482
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: on Ed Oliver, but you get them for another year. Anyways.

1483
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean, those two, that's a good duo at the tackle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Fred on the tweet, Chet asks on the draft, how

1485
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: crazy is this? Instead of prioritizing the teams for picks.

1486
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 1: How about drawing numbers for the players in the draft

1487
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: and keeping them in the round they draw. Or if

1488
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: there are five quarterbacks, how about putting one in each round.

1489
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: That will never happen, because now you're predetermining the money

1490
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: making opportunity of a draft aspect, and that will never fly.

1491
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: You're basically taking away his opportunity to be a first

1492
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: round pick by assigning him to a specific round. That

1493
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: will never happen. Yesterday's show, Eric, we were discussing solutions

1494
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: to keep teams from tanking in light of the allegations

1495
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: made against the Dolphins, and I suggested a tiered draft

1496
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: system where the worst the teams with the worst five records,

1497
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: You do a weighted lottery and a ball hopper over here.

1498
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: You flip those ball you know which everyone comes out.

1499
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: They get the first pick, second, third, fourth, fifth, then

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01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: pick six to ten, you know, the next five worst

1501
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: records they go in a separate ball hopper, and then

1502
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: eleven to eighteen. You just put in worst record to

1503
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: best record onto the playoff teams from there, and that

1504
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: way maybe you could mitigate, you know, this perceived notion

1505
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: that teams are purposely losing games to kind of protect

1506
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: and uphold the integrity of your game. So people are

1507
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: still coming out of the woodwork with your draft plans here. Well, yeah,

1508
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: I think that there is definitely a conversation built around that.

1509
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: It's worked in the NBA because you could still you know, what,

1510
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: do they do thirteen for the lottery and so, yeah,

1511
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen so you have more You know, you

1512
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: have a better shot if you have the worst record

1513
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: of getting the number one over a pick, but that

1514
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee you. It's so and you get what, Twelve

1515
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,440
Speaker 1: teams make the playoffs in basketball, so you're that thirteen.

1516
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: You're still fighting at the end of the season to

1517
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but you could still catch the lottery.

1518
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 1: That being said, in the NFL, you don't see a

1519
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: ton of tanking and there's so much parody throughout the

1520
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: NFL on a season to season basis, and you only

1521
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: have seventeen games, so there's not that huge run of

1522
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: empty arenas like they do in basketball. Part of the

1523
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: reason why they implemented that lottery. Yeah, Nick on the

1524
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: Friday Mailbag says, do we have enough cap space to

1525
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: target a big name free agent for the defensive line,

1526
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: the guys we drafted have potential, but we are in

1527
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: wind now mode and we shouldn't just sit and wait

1528
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: for them to fully develop. We need to make a

1529
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: splash in free agency if someone good is available now.

1530
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: This this is the burning question here as far as

1531
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: the offseason plans go, Eric, because here's the thing, Brandon

1532
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 1: Bean gave indication that they're not going to be big

1533
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: spenders in free agency. For the most part, they have

1534
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: not been. Mitch Morrise is probably your only exception in

1535
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: terms of swinging big for a free agent during the

1536
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: Bean McDermott era. Yeah, Star, Sure, yep, I would put

1537
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: him in that. That's fair. The problem here is, as

1538
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: your contracts are currently structured, there is not there is

1539
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: not enough cap space. I was very interested by what

1540
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Joe Shane said in an interview with Giants Media where

1541
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: he said the Bills are going to have some cap

1542
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: room to play with, and I'm thinking to myself, Okay,

1543
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: that might be an indication as to what this team

1544
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: might be doing come this offseason, which is either a

1545
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: asking veteran players to take a pay cut, which they

1546
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: did to a certain degree last year if you remember,

1547
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: or b maybe letting some veteran player with a year

1548
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: or two left on their contract go a year early

1549
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: rather than wait another year and then part ways so

1550
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: as to create some more cap space to take the

1551
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: necessary swings in free agency that they feel they might

1552
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: need to be able to make. I think you're spot on.

1553
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: I heard Joe Shane say that as well. My ears

1554
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: perked up. Yeah, I did as well. And when Bean

1555
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: said we're not going to be big spenders, he said,

1556
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: we're going to make some moves and he didn't, but

1557
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: he didn't kind of eliminate that. And I don't know

1558
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: that the Bills are in The Bills have drafted well

1559
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: enough and look to retain enough that they don't necessarily

1560
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: have to go out and be big spenders now. I

1561
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: honestly think the one position if you're going to go

1562
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: out and take a swing, would be pass Rusher. To

1563
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: this tweet from Nick, it would be pass rusher, a

1564
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 1: guy that you've seen do it on a down and

1565
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 1: down basis, Can you get a guy and no, you

1566
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: don't want You know, you mentioned clay As Campbell from

1567
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: a from the Caller. You know, like I don't if

1568
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm going out and bringing in a guy in free

1569
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: agency I want to go get or if I'm trading

1570
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: at the deadline, I want it to be a von Miller,

1571
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: a guy I've seen do it who I know can

1572
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: get home in a one on one pass rushing situation

1573
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: and an obvious pass rush rep. And that maybe that

1574
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: frees up at Oliver more, maybe that gives gregor so

1575
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 1: more one on ones. Whatever it may be. But pass

1576
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: rusher would be the one to do it. It would

1577
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 1: not surprise me to see this Bill's team, just not

1578
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: even just this offseason, as these contracts for quarterbacks have

1579
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: gotten so big year after year, it's going to be Okay,

1580
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: can I cut a guard and promote someone? Does that

1581
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: move the needle enough? You know on our wind to

1582
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: projective wind total? So then you know, can I can

1583
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: I cut a few players here? Could I restructure here

1584
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: or there? Can I push this capit maybe a year

1585
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: so that we could go get this pass rusher that

1586
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: we need or whatever position that you you think gets

1587
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: you over the hub. And for me personally, I think

1588
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I think the only one that truly moves moves the

1589
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: needle dramatically would be pass rusher for this team. Yeah,

1590
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: and there are some bigger contracts coming off the books

1591
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: at that position, So we'll have to see what the

1592
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: ultimate decision is there, but it is a compelling decision

1593
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: to be made, because as much as they like Rousseau

1594
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: and bash him and Epanessa, I don't know if they

1595
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: want to put all their eggs in that basket that

1596
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: they're going to come on and be lights out performers.

1597
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: Kind of like we saw Devin Singletary at Oliver and

1598
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox in year three. Does that happen for one

1599
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: of those guys. There's no guarantees, so I kind of

1600
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: see Brandon being trying to ensure that they have the

1601
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: production they feel they need from that position. Break time

1602
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 1: for us, Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, sorry, Eric, we'll pick

1603
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: it up. We'll pick it up on the other side.

1604
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, Eric and I with more

1605
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: on that subject next here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned,

1606
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: all right, welcome back Chris Brown and Eric Wood here

1607
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. We're gonna go to the phones

1608
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: here and got Fred in Rochester there waiting for us. Fred,

1609
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on One Bills Live. Yeah,

1610
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: um I um, I was just wondering. I had a

1611
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,440
Speaker 1: couple of thoughts, um. Number one, I'm talking about them

1612
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: the camp situation. UM, I know everyone, because everyone knows

1613
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 1: Josh signed a huge CONTRACTUM. And I don't know whether

1614
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 1: that contract is front loaded, real loaded, how it's set up.

1615
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: But is there a chance, and I know this has

1616
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: been done for him, if there is a camp problem,

1617
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: to restructure that contract so it allows us for more

1618
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: camp face. That's my first question. And I also have

1619
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: another question that I'm kind of I don't understand very much.

1620
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 1: How did the team become seventy five million dollars over

1621
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: the cap? How was then allowed in the NFL? I'm

1622
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: not quite sure about that, but yeah, I don't know

1623
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 1: how whether you guys can address that or not. Yeah,

1624
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: thanks for I appreciate the call. Um. Josh is only

1625
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: in the I mean, really, when you think about it,

1626
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: it was a five year extension tacked onto the year

1627
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: that he already had, and they basically tore up the

1628
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: fifty year option, which would be this year. So his

1629
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: cap figure, at least as I see it this year,

1630
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: is only sixteen point three. That's pretty dang good for

1631
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback of his caliber. Now it balloons after that

1632
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: and the cap hits start becoming thirty nine, forty and more.

1633
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: But this year you're okay with his deal. You don't

1634
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 1: have to do anything fancy with that. You've just got

1635
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: to figure out other people like Tremaine Edmonds playing on

1636
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: the fifth year option. Is that something you want to do?

1637
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: Or do you want to sign him to some kind

1638
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: of an extension to reduce his cap hit this year

1639
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 1: and make it more palatable to leave you room to

1640
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: do other things. I think that's the more likely route.

1641
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: People like Tremaine Edmonds, maybe some veteran players that they

1642
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: want to keep. Maybe they extend him a year. Maybe

1643
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 1: somebody like Stefan Diggs who's going to be here for

1644
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: the next several years. Maybe you put bonus money in

1645
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: his pocket, extend him out a year or two to

1646
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: spread the money out. There's a lot of things you

1647
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: can do. And then fred Eric is referencing the New

1648
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, who are seventy four million dollars over the cap.

1649
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: There are always ways to work around the cap. I

1650
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: know I don't have to tell Eric about voidable years,

1651
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: but that's been a popular way that the Saints have

1652
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: circumnavigated the cap. And I don't know how they're getting

1653
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: out of this one. But you remember last year, Eric,

1654
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: they were cutting players, they were taking having guys take

1655
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: pay cuts. It was a mess last year. I don't

1656
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: know how their accountants doing it. This year, I know

1657
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: it's stuck. And you know, up until this year they

1658
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: were looking at Drew Brees and they knew they had

1659
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: this short window. So let's get all this talent. We'll

1660
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: kind of figure it out later. And if we you know,

1661
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: end up having a crazy situation like the Bills had

1662
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, where you have this monster dead cap number, well,

1663
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, we'd probably stink for a year, and not

1664
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: that you want to tank, and you know you're not

1665
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: going to pay the coach to do it, but you can,

1666
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: you know, have a bad year and then you go

1667
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: get your quarterback or whoever you're going to get as

1668
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: that next franchise guy. But no, the Josh's cap hit

1669
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: is very team friendly this year, so you're not worried

1670
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: about it this year. And then with all of the

1671
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: new sports gambling money coming in the new TV deal,

1672
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: you're just hoping that that cap number is going to

1673
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: go up so dramatically that even then Josh's cap hits

1674
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: won't be that bad for a franchise quarterback, a top

1675
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: three quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, I just I

1676
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: don't know how the Saints are getting out of that.

1677
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: They're going to have to me they should trade people

1678
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: and get asked for nothing but draft picks in return

1679
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: or players on their first contract because They've got a

1680
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: slash payroll like nobody I've ever seen before. It is

1681
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: going to be flaming hoop jumping like we have never

1682
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: seen before. To get under the cap before the free

1683
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: agent market opens for the New Orleans Saints. It will

1684
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: be a feat, to say the least. One other question

1685
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: here from the OBL mail bag from j T, who

1686
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 1: asks Eric and Brownie, I want your opinions on the draft.

1687
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: Who would you want the Bills to draft. What do

1688
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: you think our biggest need would be. I know most

1689
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: people are saying corner, but Levi wins and earns the

1690
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: spot each and every year. I'm thinking a big ted

1691
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 1: Washington like DT or nose tackle. What do you think

1692
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: I'll go first? Here? Eric, I'll just say I do

1693
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: want a corner early. I want an athletic corner. This

1694
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 1: is no knock on Levi because the Chiefs do this

1695
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:28,480
Speaker 1: to everybody, but the Bills are known as a fundamentally

1696
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: sound defense under Leslie Frasier, I think the Chiefs are

1697
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 1: able to put so much speed on the field that

1698
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: it renders the fundamentally sound nature of your defense almost meaningless.

1699
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: You could play the most fundamentally sound defense on the planet,

1700
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: but you face a team that puts that much speed

1701
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: on the field, it negates it. And so the only

1702
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: way I feel to go is to fight fire with fire.

1703
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 1: You need faster athletes on the field to help you

1704
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: keep up and make lays against those guys. And so

1705
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: levis a free agent? Would I love to have him? Yes?

1706
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: Would would I be? Would that dissuade me from drafting

1707
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: a corner high that is a superior athlete? Absolutely not

1708
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: give me a corner. And I'm hoping, as we have

1709
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: discussed Eric, that they find a free agent pass rusher

1710
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: that they can work under the cap by hook or

1711
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: by crook. And then to me, that opens up the

1712
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to maybe get one of those top defensive tackles

1713
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: in the draft class to kind of help fortify the

1714
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: interior of your defensive front. Yeah, when you're picking at

1715
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: twenty five, you know you want to take a guy

1716
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: that you know that can be a four or five

1717
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: years starter, and so you go you kind of weigh it, because, yes,

1718
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: cornerbacks are very expensive in the draft, but if you

1719
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 1: can get a guy's let's just play hypothetical and let's

1720
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 1: say you can find a guard and so instead of

1721
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: having to Daryl Williams next year or another veteran guard,

1722
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,879
Speaker 1: you got a four or five years starter at guard.

1723
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Because you know that this guy's going to be a

1724
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: lock at twenty five to be that type of player,

1725
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: you could take him. But to me, what I'm looking

1726
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: at just this specific Bills team right now. We don't

1727
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 1: obviously don't know how they say it after free agency,

1728
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: but what gets them over the hump? And I'm with you,

1729
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 1: when you're facing a team like Kansas City, you do

1730
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: need more speed on the field, and so yes, I'm

1731
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: definitely in favor of a cornerback as well. The only

1732
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: converse of that is if you don't have to hold

1733
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 1: up is long because your pass rush is so good,

1734
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,839
Speaker 1: then that's the converse of it. And to get Patrick

1735
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: Mahomes to make mistakes like the Bengals did in the

1736
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: second half, it's because of consistent pressure. Yeah, no question

1737
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 1: about it. All right, we have to take a break

1738
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 1: here because when we come back, we're gonna get a

1739
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: little more intel on the bills new quarterbacks coach Joe Brady.

1740
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna be talking with Jonathan Alexander from the Charlotte Observer.

1741
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: He's there, Panthers beat reporter. He'll be joining us next

1742
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live for his anybody KILLI to help?

1743
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Taster who has

1744
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

1745
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you. State Steve

1746
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the stratgere of normalcy here.

1747
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: We are our number three on a Friday. Chris Brown,

1748
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Eric Wood with you and joining us now kind of

1749
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 1: give us a little extra intel on Bill's new quarterbacks coach.

1750
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: Joe Brady is the Panthers beat reporter for the Charlotte

1751
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 1: Observatives one Jonathan Alexander joining us on the line. Jonathan A.

1752
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: You're doing thanks for giving us some time on a Friday.

1753
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Pre sh it. I'm good. How are y'all? We're doing good?

1754
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: So why don't we start here? There seemed to be

1755
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 1: a healthy number of reports on first the parting of

1756
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: ways between Joe Brady and the Carolina Panthers, but it

1757
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: seemed relatively respectful and amicable, at least from some of

1758
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: the comments I saw from Matt Rule when he was

1759
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: questioned about it by the fine folks like yourself. So

1760
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 1: could you just kind of spell that out for us

1761
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:34,560
Speaker 1: first and foremost as why why they parted ways? Yeah, yeah,

1762
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,520
Speaker 1: I think that there were a little bit of this agreement.

1763
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: I think you know, Matt Rule brought Joe Brady to

1764
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: the Panthers back in January twenty twenty. UM. You know,

1765
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: they didn't really know each other much. Uh. You know,

1766
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: Matt Rule had liked what he was able to do

1767
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 1: there in LSU, you know, when they won that national title. UM.

1768
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: And Matt Rule is more of a defensive minded coach,

1769
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: so he was looking for some who could help kind

1770
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: of build that Panther's offense into a high powering passing offense.

1771
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: And and you know, during the two years that Joe

1772
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: Brady was there the Panthers, and they were okay first year, um,

1773
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: but that second year they could never really get anything

1774
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 1: going in the passing game. And and and they struggled

1775
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: to make adjustments in the second half, and that ultimately

1776
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: frustrated U Matt rule and led to uh, you know,

1777
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: a few disagreements um there and how they go about things,

1778
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: um and uh you know. I think that was ultimately

1779
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 1: there doing their undoing. I don't think that there was

1780
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: any any animosity there. I think Matt will was feeling

1781
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the pressure of not getting a job done.

1782
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:47,759
Speaker 1: I think they had went through like seven game stress

1783
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: where they hadn't thrown it over two hundred yards and um,

1784
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, and ultimately it led to you know, Joe

1785
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Brady being fired even though Christian McCaffrey wasn't there and

1786
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have the proper quarterback there to take them

1787
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: to where they wanted to be. When you look at

1788
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 1: Joe Brady and him coming in under Ken Dorsey, where

1789
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: do you think he can specifically aid a first time

1790
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 1: play caller in Ken Dorsey. Yeah, I think he has

1791
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: that knowledge now. You know, that was his first time

1792
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 1: full time. He's been calling plays now for two years.

1793
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: He started with the Panthers in twenty twenty. But when

1794
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: he started in twenty twenty eight and hadn't had that

1795
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: that experience calling plays. So now he has that experience,

1796
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Now he knows what hasn't worked, So you know, I

1797
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 1: think he can he can, you know, give that knowledge

1798
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: to Dorsey of what you know, mistakes were made. I

1799
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 1: think Dorsey's a smart guy. He's done it. He's shown

1800
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: um that he's successful at whatever he's done. So, you know,

1801
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a good partnership and a

1802
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: good person. And you know, Joe Brady's another good young

1803
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: mine who who has his own style, who has seen

1804
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: success but has also seen failures. And then Jonathan he

1805
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 1: certainly inherits a heck of a weapon, maybe the ultimate weapon.

1806
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: And Josh Allen, and we know that Joe Brady's history

1807
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,839
Speaker 1: at least says when he's given a multitude of weapons

1808
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: like he had at LSU, he's going to produce for you.

1809
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: I realize he's not calling the plays in the in

1810
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: this current seat that he's going to be holding here,

1811
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 1: but still he's gonna have input on, you know, how

1812
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: things might look, might be schemed up in a given week.

1813
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: When you've got Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs, Gabriel Davis, Dawson Knox,

1814
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean you've you've got a lot to work with there, right,

1815
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. M I think what Joe Brady was

1816
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: probably best at. It's like when he had the right pieces,

1817
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, he did a great job of getting players

1818
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: to you know, maximize their ability, like that first year.

1819
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: I look at Carolina. The second year wasn't so great,

1820
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: but the first year he got Curtis Samuel to have

1821
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: a career year, had Robby Anderson didn't have a career year.

1822
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 1: Both of those guys got paid, Mike Davis had a

1823
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: career year. All of those guys were over a thousand

1824
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: yards to him scrimmage, all of them got paid. And

1825
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: Dj Moore also had a great year. So he knows

1826
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: how to helpe and this was without Christian McCaffrey and

1827
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 1: him being hurt. So he knows how to help individual

1828
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: players maximize their abilities. He knows how to he knows

1829
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: where to see their talent and allow them to perform.

1830
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: So I think that's the benefit and having Joe Birdy particular,

1831
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: now you definitely have to have pieces to compliment everybody,

1832
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: and I think that's where they struggle in particular last year.

1833
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: Like last year, the Panthers didn't have a quarterback on

1834
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line, So that kind of hurt some of

1835
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: those things. But I do think Joe Berry is a

1836
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: good recognizer of talent and helps players maximize or talents.

1837
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: Not having a quarterback per an offensive line is a

1838
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: major issue. What do you think, yeah, Jonathan, what do

1839
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: you think the Panthers do at quarterback this offseason heading

1840
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty two? Yeah, I think that the Panthers

1841
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: are looking at all the options. But I think they

1842
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 1: could draft somebody, and they could trade for someone I

1843
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 1: think ustinately. In the end, though, the most reasonable thing

1844
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 1: they could do, or most realistic thing they could do,

1845
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 1: is it signed somebody in free agency, not particularly for

1846
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 1: a high contract, someone for a reasonable contract, with somebody

1847
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 1: who compete with with Sam Donald. I don't think there

1848
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: are enough people in the organization who would like to

1849
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: see someone else being the starter there. And I think

1850
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: where they want to build, because because the Panthers still

1851
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: want to build offensive line, you know, they have a

1852
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 1: chance to find a really good offensive lineman at six.

1853
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 1: I think what they're going to have to do is

1854
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: sign somebody in free agency because in order for them

1855
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: to be successful, they have to have a new quarterback

1856
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: and a revamped offensive lind So I think you're going

1857
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: to see them looking free agency for a quarterback, okay,

1858
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: and so knowing they'll be looking for a quarterback, has

1859
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:17,560
Speaker 1: has the mood changed at all? After making a gigantic

1860
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,719
Speaker 1: investment in McCaffrey and then him being hurt and missing

1861
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: significant time each of the last two years, you kind

1862
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: of want that run game support for whatever quarterback you're

1863
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: bringing in, but he just flat out hasn't been available.

1864
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 1: Has has the mood changed on him at all within

1865
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: the organization do you feel? I think what the organization

1866
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: recognize is is that mccasfley is human. You know, he's

1867
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 1: subptable to being hurt, so he's not out of the

1868
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: realm of possibility of being traded if the right offer

1869
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: was there. At the same time, they also recognize how

1870
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 1: how great of a player he is and how much

1871
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: of an impact he has had on the Panthers. When

1872
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 1: McCaffrey has been now the Panthers have been terrible. They

1873
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with themselves on offense, They

1874
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: don't know how to adjust. They haven't been able to

1875
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: adjust in these two seasons. So, you know, I think

1876
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: they recognize those two facts. You know, if they could

1877
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: get mccaffreine back, that would be ideal to have him

1878
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 1: healthy because he makes them a much better offense. He

1879
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: helps hide some of the deficiencies on the offensive line

1880
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: because he's your automatic checkdown. He's a mismatch for people.

1881
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: He can run in, he can catch. So yeah, I

1882
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: think they recognize that he's human, so he's not out

1883
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 1: of the Roman possibility of being traded, but they also

1884
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: recommend recognize how valuable he is and how much they

1885
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 1: need to keep him healthy next year. Around Charlotte and

1886
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 1: within the organization, what's the optimism around Matt rule at

1887
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 1: this time? You know, miss the playoffs last two years,

1888
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: but you know, the quarterback position makes it very tough

1889
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 1: to win in this league without stability. There's what's the

1890
01:43:54,680 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: optimism around Matt Rule. I don't know that they're it's

1891
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 1: much optimism optimism other than the fact that they have

1892
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: a young defense that shown promise that was number two

1893
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: in the league in total yards. You know, they need

1894
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: to do a better job of creating turnovers. Um. But

1895
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Ruill enter year three on the hot

1896
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: seat and a lot of people are concerned and a

1897
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: lot of fans UM are requesting change. Um, you know,

1898
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 1: I think the only way Matt Rule is able to

1899
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: survive is if they come out this first half of

1900
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 1: the season with the bank they need to. They need

1901
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:32,480
Speaker 1: to fix the offensive line situation that is absolutely imperative,

1902
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: and they need to find a solid option at quarterback.

1903
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Um you know, I think, uh, it's fair to say

1904
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: that that the Panthers and Matt Rule made some mistakes

1905
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: and along the way and trading some of their trading

1906
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 1: away some of their assets and trading away Teddy Bridgewater

1907
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: and trading for Sam Guard or the second and the

1908
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: fourth and the sixth round pick, and now you don't

1909
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 1: have that second and fourth round pick in this year's draft,

1910
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: and you have to make up for it. Um not

1911
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,759
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback last year when there was a quarterback

1912
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: heavy draft, or not drafting an offensivelime. I think those

1913
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: were the mistakes that were made and they have led

1914
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: to the lack of optimism that there is. But in

1915
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: order for Matt Rule to survive a year three, he

1916
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: has to get those things fit. And the last one

1917
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: I've got for you, Jonathan, our good friends Stefan Gilmore.

1918
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: It was a homecoming of sorts for him coming down

1919
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: to play for Carolina, being from nearby South Carolina. So

1920
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: he's a free agent now too. Is his future there

1921
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 1: with Carolina or is he going to be surveying the market?

1922
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: You think yeah, I definitely think he's going to be

1923
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:41,759
Speaker 1: surveying the marketing market. I think Stefan would ideally like to,

1924
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 1: you know, being Carolina if he has a home. He

1925
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: kept a home just thirty minutes from the stadium or

1926
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,719
Speaker 1: maybe even less than that, and I think he likes

1927
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: being home and being with his family. I think the

1928
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: Panthers will really value how smart of a player he is,

1929
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: and and the you know, his teammates really value him.

1930
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 1: At the same time, you know, how much is he

1931
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 1: going to cost, and how much is he going to command?

1932
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: And do you want to play a pay a thirty

1933
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: one year old cornerback who is probably only has probably

1934
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 1: two more great years left just based on the evidence

1935
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks thisalyague. You know, that's a big question that

1936
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 1: they have to grapple with. I think it's it's all

1937
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 1: going to come down to that contract, right Jonathan, Thanks

1938
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: very much for the time. We appreciate you bringing us

1939
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: up to speed on Joe Brady. We'll catch up with

1940
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: you down the line. Thanks for having me, all right,

1941
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander, beat reporter for the Charlotte Observer on the

1942
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers kind of spelling it out for us on

1943
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Joe Brady and you know, Eric, it just seems to

1944
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 1: me that there were like a difference of opinion between

1945
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 1: Brady and Matt Rule and what Matt Rule wanted to

1946
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:04,520
Speaker 1: go forward. But it sounds to me like the quarterback

1947
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,759
Speaker 1: mask kind of gobbed up the works no matter who

1948
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: was in what coaching position for that Carolina offensive staff.

1949
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a hard one to work around, no

1950
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: doubt about it. And when you don't have a quarterback

1951
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 1: in pro football, it's just so hard to win. And

1952
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 1: when you're bringing in guys and you know, Joe Brady

1953
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 1: hadn't worked with Sam Darnold before, and then Sam Darnold

1954
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 1: gets hurt, and you got Cam Newton, and then who

1955
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: was the young guy that they were playing to kind

1956
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 1: of rotting them what was his name again, I can't

1957
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: even remember now, Yeah, regardless exactly, so they got them

1958
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: to kind of rotating at times like that. That's not

1959
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: a situation built for success. The quarterback position is the

1960
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 1: most important position in all the pro sports, and when

1961
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: you don't have one, it is so hard to win

1962
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 1: in this league. And so in my opinion, you don't

1963
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,560
Speaker 1: really judge Joe Brady for that. And then you know

1964
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:03,600
Speaker 1: the Bills are bringing him in to be a quarterbacks

1965
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 1: coach and to work with the quarterback when you've seen

1966
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,879
Speaker 1: him be you know what he did for that LSUU offense,

1967
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 1: his work with Joe Burrow and that one year that

1968
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,879
Speaker 1: they're working together, what Joe Burrow did in that epic season,

1969
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 1: and that's what you're hopeful that he can bring here.

1970
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: And then not for anything, even though it wasn't the

1971
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 1: most successful two years in Carolina. You have a guy

1972
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 1: that has experienced calling plays, that's sitting in a meeting

1973
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 1: room with Ken Dorsey, that can help him throughout the

1974
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: week prepare for these games. Right, Yeah, I don't think

1975
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: there's any question about that. And as Jonathan pointed out,

1976
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 1: as the Panthers OC in twenty twenty, he became I mean,

1977
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers offense became just the fifth offensive unit in

1978
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era to have four players with a

1979
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 1: thousand scrimmage yards. And that's despite the fact that the

1980
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: offense finished twenty first in the league overall in total

1981
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: offense and eighteenth in passing. He still got four guys

1982
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 1: to a thousand scrimmage yards on the same offense with

1983
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater as his quarterback. That's pretty good work as

1984
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: a first year coordinator all things considered. So I think

1985
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: there's a reason to be optimistic seeing Brady in the

1986
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 1: quarterback coaching seat here in Buffalo. Let's go back to

1987
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: the phone at eight oh three five fifty Fan Friday

1988
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 1: mail back still open for you at that number, or

1989
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet that one Bills Live, and we

1990
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: go to Jim in Orchard Park. Jim, what do you

1991
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bills Live. Jim. Oh,

1992
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: he's listening to the radio. Let's put him on hold

1993
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: for a quick second and then see if he picks up.

1994
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Let's listening to his radio, which is on delayed. Jimmy,

1995
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 1: you're there. Thanks for taking my calls. Yeah, what do

1996
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 1: you got first? Jim? I want to find out about

1997
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 1: our backup quarterbacks Subsky. I know we only have him

1998
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 1: for one year, right, and I just wondered if we

1999
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 1: can trade him and maybe become a high draft choice

2000
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: or maybe a top player that will be looking for

2001
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:13,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams looking for quarterbacks. Yeah, he's

2002
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 1: a free agent because he only signed a one year

2003
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,799
Speaker 1: deal here, Jim, so he wouldn't be available for trade.

2004
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: Teams would just wait until he becomes a free agent,

2005
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: And I would assume Eric he's looking for a starting

2006
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: opportunity somewhere else in the league where he at least

2007
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: has a chance to compete to start. Couldn't find that

2008
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 1: last year, which is why he wound up here in

2009
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: the first place. Yeah, it was a fortunate situation for

2010
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: the Bills this last year that he didn't find that situation.

2011
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 1: We only got to see him on display in the preseason.

2012
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 1: He looked excellent, played a touch of spot duty for

2013
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: the Bills this year, but luckily we didn't need him

2014
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: to play extensive time. But based upon what he did

2015
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: in the preseason last year, the fact that he has

2016
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 1: starting experience in Chicago brought them to the playoffs, I

2017
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 1: would assume that he'll be in the mix for a

2018
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,639
Speaker 1: starting position this year, and not for anything. I think

2019
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 1: the week quarterback class coming out of college this year

2020
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 1: plays into that dramatically. Yeah, I would I would agree

2021
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 1: with that I'm trying to think of teams where he

2022
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: would be seen as an attractive option. You know, teams

2023
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 1: that don't the Giants. Yeah, well, the Giants say they're

2024
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 1: committed to Daniel Jones. Ironically, they also have Jake from

2025
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: there right now, right too. I mean, I wouldn't rule

2026
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:39,719
Speaker 1: it out, certainly, do you. I don't know, does Brian

2027
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: Dable first season in the door open up the quarterback

2028
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 1: position to full blown competition after saying that, you know,

2029
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna see what Daniel Jones can give us this year.

2030
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he goes that route. Maybe maybe

2031
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: he does. I wouldn't rule it out, but I would

2032
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: I would think with ownership feeling they finally have a

2033
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 1: clear vision for Daniel Jones, with a coordinator now at

2034
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: head coach that has a history of developing quarterbacks. I

2035
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,759
Speaker 1: don't know if they want to throw a competition into

2036
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 1: the mix per se, but I suppose it's possible. I mean,

2037
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: there are teams out there that certainly need quarterback help

2038
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: that you know you can work up a list relatively quickly.

2039
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 1: But I just wonder if I don't think anybody's going

2040
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: to hand him a starting job, but someone would be

2041
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 1: wise to offer him a competition. I mean, Denver comes

2042
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 1: to mind as an option there, So that would be

2043
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: one that's a tough division though, man, I mean, you

2044
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 1: want to go to the AFC West with Mahomes Herbert

2045
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 1: and Derek Carr. I don't know, not that he's not.

2046
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 1: The beggars can be choosers, but I don't know if

2047
01:52:55,680 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 1: that's a division anybody wants to go to. I know, yeah,

2048
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 1: And you know, it'll be interesting to see how everything

2049
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 1: shakes out with free agency, with the draft. You know,

2050
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,799
Speaker 1: if Kenny Pickett becomes your guy, or if you're taking

2051
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 1: one of these younger quarterbacks. Mitch Drubisky, Okay, he's a

2052
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 1: guy that can come in. Maybe he gives you a

2053
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 1: year and if he's excellent, then you just keep him rolling.

2054
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 1: And if he's not, then he kind of nurtures that

2055
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 1: next guy to come through the door. But I think

2056
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: Mitch Drubisky is a guy that starts on Sundays next year,

2057
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: whether that's week one or partially through the season. And

2058
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, my over under would probably be, you know,

2059
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: kind of around that eight nine games. Yeah, Tampa Bay

2060
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 1: comes to mind. They they've got a hole there. Seattle

2061
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 1: if they have to move on from Russell Wilson because

2062
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 1: he wants out there will I think there will be

2063
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: options for him to survey. Where does Aaron Rodgers end

2064
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,600
Speaker 1: up next year? Ye oh man? How delicious would that

2065
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: be for Mitch Drubisky to go back to the division

2066
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: where he got bounced from and play against his former

2067
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 1: team that drafted him. There's a storyline for you. Let's

2068
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 1: go back to the phone, though, and to Bill in

2069
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: Batavian X. What do you have for us? Bill? Hello,

2070
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: I got a suggestion. Give up this year's first a

2071
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: next year second, move up to Carolina's pick because they

2072
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: need extra draft picks and we could give them a

2073
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: few more. How about moving up to the six pick

2074
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 1: and getting that safety from Notre Dame Kyle what's his name?

2075
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton? Or you could get the big tackle from Georgia.

2076
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 1: What do you think? And I'll let you go and

2077
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: you can just tell me what your thoughts are. Yeah,

2078
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Bill. I don't see Brandon Bean

2079
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 1: trading up the draft board in round one for a safety.

2080
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. Kyle Hamilton's a great player,

2081
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I just think they have

2082
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: two veteran safeties in place. I understand that you're probably

2083
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna need a succession plan sooner rather than later, knowing

2084
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 1: both of those guys are over thirty years of age,

2085
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 1: but they're still playing at a supremely high level. So

2086
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that you have to make such

2087
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: a seismic type move up the draft board. Not to

2088
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: mention the fact that you have Jaquan Johnson in the pipeline,

2089
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 1: and you have a guy that they're very high on

2090
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: in Damar Hamlin, who is a tall and rangy safety

2091
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 1: who I think is going to be fast tracked in

2092
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 1: the next year or two personally. So I don't see

2093
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 1: that kind of a move. You want to talk offensive tackle,

2094
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't need that. I don't know that you need

2095
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: to move up to get one of those either in

2096
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 1: round one. So some of the moves that you're looking

2097
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 1: to make, I just don't sense the urgency eric at

2098
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: either of those positions. No, I don't either. I think

2099
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 1: we've kind of beat this down. But if you're moving

2100
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 1: up in the draft nowadays, you're generally moving up for

2101
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and we know the Bills aren't in the

2102
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: market for quarterback now you could move up a few

2103
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: spots if you want to jump somebody for if it's

2104
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 1: the corner or pass rusher you like. But outside of that,

2105
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 1: I just don't see anybody coming in and making such

2106
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 1: a dramatic impact that the Bills will be willing to

2107
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 1: move on from any of their draft picks. Right And

2108
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: if you look at Brandon Bean's history, he and the

2109
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: Bill's history, because the twenty seventeen draft, they moved up

2110
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times before Brandon Bean was on board,

2111
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 1: in round two to get Dion Dawkins and to get

2112
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: Zay Jones, and then they did it under Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: to go get Cody Ford in round two, and they

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Speaker 1: also did it to move up to get Dawson Knox

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Speaker 1: in round three. So he will move up the board.

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Speaker 1: And obviously he did it in round one for Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and for Tremaine Edmonds, so he's not afraid to

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Speaker 1: move up the draft board. But for a quarterback, that's

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Speaker 1: the only time you're doing it in the top ten. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised. I got a question, have has

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01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 1: Brandon been in his four years as general manager? Has

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01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,839
Speaker 1: he made more draft day moves than any other general manager,

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about Bills history or league wide league wide? Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that, I know, I know I'm laser

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Speaker 1: I know I'm laser focused in on the Bills mainly

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Speaker 1: throughout draft time. But just feels like we're moving more

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Speaker 1: than anybody. And it's not it's not overly dramatic, especially

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01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 1: you know the year that you traded Cordy Glenn to

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Speaker 1: move up a little further and then you eventually get

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Speaker 1: up far enough to get Josh Allen. Well, besides besides

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01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 1: that one, they're they're minor moves for the most part.

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Speaker 1: But it just seems like, why don't we have Jay

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01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: Harrison is fat us that checking team in the back?

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Speaker 1: Look that up because I would have mad and the

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Speaker 1: Bills have to be up there. I would say they're

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Speaker 1: up there. Less Sneed and Schneider in Seattle, they trade

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Speaker 1: first round picks like they're going out of style. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Seattle's always trading out of the first round, it seems

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Speaker 1: every single year. And less Need apparently doesn't even like

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01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 1: draft picks, so he trades those with alarming regularity. So

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see what their cumulative totals are.

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Speaker 1: We know that the New England Patriots. If they don't

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Speaker 1: like anything, they'll trade out of the round, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the snap of a finger. But yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: think he's probably somewhere in the top five for sure.

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Speaker 1: We got to take a break here, but when we

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Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna be joined by Maddie Glab from

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, who caught up with Bills Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: left tackle Dion Dawkins. Well hear what Dion had to say.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kaloid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Eric Wood with you,

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01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: and time for us now to turn to Bill's multimedia

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Speaker 1: reporter Maddie Glab, who is out at the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: this week. She caught up with one of Buffalo's Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl where she will be appearing in the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It is Deon Dawkins with Maddie Glab. All right, Maddie

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Speaker 1: Glab here with Dion Dawkins. We are at the Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl in Las Vegas. Excitement of being here, Dion, what

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01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 1: are the vibes like you just finish your first practice

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01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl truly it is still it is

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01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 1: still a whirlwind. Like I'm still like really in shock.

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01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing to honestly be here. It's an honor.

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01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 1: There's so many great players, so many great coaches in

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Speaker 1: this league, and honestly from being around as autust like

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01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 1: top ten, top tier talent, it's a it's amazing and um,

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02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, seeing some other guys and that you come

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Speaker 1: come compete against, it's really uh, it's really different being

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Speaker 1: on the same field and a calmer setting and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely an experience. But I'm very, very

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Speaker 1: excited and blessed to beer. Speaking of great players that

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Speaker 1: you get to play around this weekend and in the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, is there anybody that you're the most excited

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Speaker 1: to play with? To play with Number one of Stefan Dix.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Diggs, you know, shred what

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02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: he does. Um, honestly, Tarik Hill, Tarik Hill, Tyrone, Matthew.

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Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of him when I was

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Speaker 1: in college and when I was in high school and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know white Teller, White Teller, you know why it

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02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 1: was was my guard at one point and out to

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Speaker 1: see him on the same field as me in the

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Speaker 1: same place. It's amazing and uh, truly special and truly

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Speaker 1: on it, you know, to be with my dog once again,

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Speaker 1: white is a good one. Are you already campaigning for

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02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: an offensive line touchdown here as you go through practices

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Speaker 1: and walk throughs. So I'm gonna tell you now, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? The boast the best,

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Speaker 1: the most you know, And uh, of course I'm going

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Speaker 1: for tosses. I'm going for passes. I'm going for running

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Speaker 1: the ball. I'm telling the coach, look, throw me the ball.

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02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: Throwing the ball. I want to be cocky about it.

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Speaker 1: You've seen it. I can catch. I love it. Put

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Speaker 1: the big man as on Pro Bowl twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: It's only right you're already snow why are you pumped

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02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: to have a guy like Steph Diggs here with you

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Speaker 1: throughout the weekend? I feel like Vegas just fits him

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, you definitely hit it right on. Diggs

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Speaker 1: is mister is mister him, and uh, Vegas is definitely

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Speaker 1: mister Diggs. And uh being here with that guy, you know,

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02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 1: he's he's a superstar, megastar. And to just be sharing

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Speaker 1: time and with Diggs at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's special, okay. So free agency is a

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02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 1: ride around the corner. So if you're talking to some

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02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 1: players here, what's your pitch to come play for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Ah, well, you know everybody likes to eat.

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02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 1: Number one, the food is top tier, top top, top, top,

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02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 1: top tier. When it comes to the the pizza and wings,

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02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:15,880
Speaker 1: it was all a bad food. There's good food too,

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Speaker 1: but we all like to eat bad, you know, because

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02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 1: we eat good and then we eat bad. But my pitches,

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02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: you got to come play for a coach like Sean

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Speaker 1: and McDermott and play with a quarterback like Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: And when that pitch is pitched, I think people will

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02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 1: understand what's going on because they see it. They understand

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Speaker 1: that the chemistry of our team is different, and it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a it's a group full of top tier guys.

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Speaker 1: And if I can pull as many top tier guys

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Speaker 1: into to Buffalo, it just helps us get that much better.

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Speaker 1: One more question for you. Ken Dorsey is the new

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills. What do you think

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Speaker 1: about that high er? What's he like? Why does he

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Speaker 1: fit in that role? Honestly, you know, everything starts with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the fact that Josh is the most

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02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 1: comfortable with Dorsey. The wrestle all fall into place, and uh,

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02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 1: Dorsey is a good dude. Over the year, you know,

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02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 1: it was a it was a growth of relationship. And uh,

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Speaker 1: if you notice, every every time and we score, I

2228
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: find Dorsey and I just sprint at him, and uh

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02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 1: it's been a fun thing to to, honestly do. But

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02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:24,400
Speaker 1: it just shows that he's relating to his players in

2231
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 1: a special way. And now that we are officially his players,

2232
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 1: you know it'll he's already one step ahead. I love it, Dion.

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Speaker 1: The vibes are good, and enjoy the Pro Bowl this weekend.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to see you score that touchdown. Let's get it.

2235
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Speaker 1: You already snow divibes. You already snow divibes. You already

2236
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:43,560
Speaker 1: snow di vibes. Go Bills, Bill's Mafia were here, Dana stands.

2237
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: I gotta go show him some love. Stay all right,

2238
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:52,200
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins with Maddie glab It's amazing how the personality

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02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: comes out. He wasn't like that as a rookie, was

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Speaker 1: he Eric Man, It's kind of hard to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: because he hadn't built like the whole no man stick

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Speaker 1: yet and all that. But Dion Dawkins, I love him

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02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: and I love that he's just himself and he's been

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02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: that way forever and honestly though, that's a guy that

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02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 1: I got the mentor early on in his career. He

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02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: came in during my last year. We still are close

2247
02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 1: to this day. I love him like a little brother.

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02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:22,320
Speaker 1: He spent the holidays in my house. He'd come over

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Speaker 1: all the time we see Dion on TV and to

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Speaker 1: him or sorry, to my daughter, that's her hunger under hippos, buddy,

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02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, someone that she would hang out with at

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Speaker 1: the house. So I love deon him. I'm proud of

2253
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: all of his success. This is well earned. It's deserved

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Speaker 1: by Dion. I mean, he does things on a football field.

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Speaker 1: And he's not an overly big guy either. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's got good size, but you know, he's six foot three,

2257
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Speaker 1: but he's just got amazing feat for a left tackle,

2258
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 1: and that allows him to keep up with some of

2259
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: these elite pass rushers win. A lot of these elite

2260
02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: left tackles are a lot taller than he is, a

2261
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,920
Speaker 1: lot longer than he is. He just got great athleticism,

2262
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 1: a great demeanor, and as goofy as he can be

2263
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:07,560
Speaker 1: off the field with his noises and his dancing and

2264
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 1: everything else. He's one bad dude on the field. Yeah,

2265
02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: no question about that. And you know, considering he's going

2266
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,280
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, it's pretty big accomplishment in its

2267
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: own right. But to do that in a season where

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02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 1: he had two separate stints and battles with COVID, pretty

2269
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 1: remarkable that he came through it and finished the way

2270
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Speaker 1: that he did. Yeah, you're right, And a lot of

2271
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 1: fans will look at this Pro Bowl nomination and say, well,

2272
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Speaker 1: this wasn't even Dion's best season. In your right, Sometimes

2273
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl comes a year off, like Jordan Poyer,

2274
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, will be a Pro Bowl nod next

2275
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:47,520
Speaker 1: year's First Team All Pro this year. The writers, the voters,

2276
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 1: they recognize it sometimes before maybe the fan opinion does.

2277
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 1: And when you get all those votes coming in from

2278
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 1: the fans, sometimes that's about a year away. So while

2279
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 1: this might not have been best season in the Pro

2280
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't a Pro Bowl caliber season

2281
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 1: for him. While it might not have been his best

2282
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,880
Speaker 1: season as a pro. It's his reputation that he's built

2283
02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 1: as being the leader of the offensive line, one of

2284
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 1: the better offensive lines in the league, one of the

2285
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 1: best offense in the league. What he's done from a

2286
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 1: reputation standpoint up at this point puts him in this

2287
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 1: season and not as an alternate gets voted in or

2288
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 1: straight off the bat. Yeah, let's jump back on the

2289
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: fan Friday mail bag. As Jay Mills sends in this question,

2290
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 1: why not use our first round pick to trade for

2291
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:39,520
Speaker 1: a D line edge rusher. Our time is now. And

2292
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:43,880
Speaker 1: while I will agree that you know the team's window

2293
02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:46,440
Speaker 1: is open now and you have to do everything in

2294
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 1: your power to try to get your team over the

2295
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 1: hump and to the ultimate game, I don't see this

2296
02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:56,320
Speaker 1: as a course of action for Brandon Bean. I think

2297
02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 1: he just covets first round picks way too much. They've

2298
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:04,920
Speaker 1: hit on more of them than not clearly in his

2299
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:08,600
Speaker 1: time here. So if you believe in your personnel department,

2300
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 1: you believe in your skill as a drafter, a first

2301
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 1: round pick is not something you part with, even one

2302
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Speaker 1: all the way down at twenty five. So I think

2303
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 1: there'll be plenty of D line edge rushers in free agency,

2304
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 1: and if you do the right financial maneuvers prior to

2305
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 1: free agency, whether that's as we've talked about, having players

2306
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: take pay cuts or restructuring or extending maybe guys out

2307
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 1: another year or so, that might be the way that

2308
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:43,120
Speaker 1: they ultimately go. I don't know if you feel differently. Yeah,

2309
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 1: the only time Brandon Bean has traded a first rounder

2310
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Speaker 1: and then not had one was when they went and

2311
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 1: got Stefon Diggs. That was a little bit different situation too,

2312
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 1: because one, you had to find a number one receiver,

2313
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 1: you had to have seen someone do it before, because

2314
02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 1: you had to have that to truly be able to

2315
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:02,880
Speaker 1: valuate Josh at that point in time in year three,

2316
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:07,040
Speaker 1: you had to find as Stefan Diggs. And it's funny

2317
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 1: when when they made that trade and being said, well,

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02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 1: that would mean we were getting the fourth or fifth

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Speaker 1: receiver in the draft. However you putty, he was exactly right.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing how correct he is in those assessments. Now,

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Speaker 1: justin Jefferson ends up having a remarkable career so far

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Speaker 1: for the Vikings. But that was a situation where Stefan

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02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 1: Diggs was coming in at a very cap friendly contract,

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Speaker 1: to the bills. The Vikings had paid him a majority

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Speaker 1: of that contract already, I want to say majority. They

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Speaker 1: had paid him a good chunk of that contract already.

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Speaker 1: To keep his API down. That was a very strategic move.

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Speaker 1: You find a situation like that again, yeah, maybe you

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Speaker 1: do it, but I don't think you find those very often,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think you find one with one of

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Speaker 1: these elite pass rushers that we're talking about, because teams

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02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:57,280
Speaker 1: just aren't willing to part ways with those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the real debates here are going to involve

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Speaker 1: edge rusher, which I think will indicate how much based

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Speaker 1: on whatever the move is, it will be a direct

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Speaker 1: reflection on how much faith they have in the young

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02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: edge rushers they've drafted over the last two years, how

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Speaker 1: much they believe they will come on this year, which

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02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 1: would be year three for aj year two for Passion

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Speaker 1: and Rousseau, and then, to a lesser extent, the wide

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02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:28,280
Speaker 1: receiver position. Are they going the veteran route there or

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02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:31,600
Speaker 1: are they again dipping into the draft or are they

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02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 1: doing both which I don't think is completely out of

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02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility either based on how they feel

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02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 1: a with the veteran receivers they have on their roster,

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Speaker 1: most notably Cole Beasley, who has just a year remaining

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02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 1: on his contract, and the young up and coming receivers

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Speaker 1: that they've had in the pipeline here. Obviously, they have

2349
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:55,600
Speaker 1: to feel good about Gabriel Davis, But what do they

2350
02:09:55,600 --> 02:10:01,080
Speaker 1: think of Isaiah Hodgins, who, aside from a practice squad

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02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 1: call up late in the year for a game in

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02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:06,640
Speaker 1: which he ultimately did not dress for Week sixteen against

2353
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:10,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots, How do they feel about him having never

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02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 1: seen him yet in a regular season game. Those are

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Speaker 1: two positions that are fascinating to me as this team

2356
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 1: goes forward into the offseason. Can you think of any

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02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,920
Speaker 1: others that kind of really pique your interest in terms

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02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:28,800
Speaker 1: of what the plan will be to address what may not,

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02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 1: in your mind be a glaring need necessarily, Eric, but

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Speaker 1: you're kind of interested based on what they have on

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02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 1: the roster and maybe what they could be seeking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. So for me, some things I

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02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:45,840
Speaker 1: would potentially be looking at backup tight end. Are you

2364
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:48,600
Speaker 1: going to roll in with two tight ends again and

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02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 1: have Tommy Sweeney be that guy? And Tommy Sweeney is

2366
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 1: a guy that we haven't got to see a whole

2367
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:57,320
Speaker 1: lot from You can play that six offensive linemen, but

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02:10:57,480 --> 02:10:59,560
Speaker 1: with Ken Dorsey coming in, are they going to run

2369
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 1: one run more true twelve personnel and not have that

2370
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 1: be Reggie gilliam So a backup tight end could be

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02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 1: a possibility there. The receiver positions interesting to me because

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02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:13,560
Speaker 1: you can go in a number of different ways and

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02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 1: you roll out there with I mean, Shota could be Digs,

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02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:22,160
Speaker 1: Davis and mackenzie out there, and you have McKenzie as

2375
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 1: that wing back position. I like that from Chris Trapasso.

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Speaker 1: There's not often that I get a football term that

2377
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 1: I pick up that I've never never heard. I've never referenced.

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02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 1: That is the wing back position or wide back position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've heard of Yeah, wide back, wide back. Sorry, No,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I'm gonna have to give him credit

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02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: for that when I use it too. So that wide

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02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:48,640
Speaker 1: back position, so that could be Isaia McKenzie. And then

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02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:51,240
Speaker 1: you're right, and I mean, and you got Jake Kumero.

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02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 1: Is he free agent this year coming out? Kumar? Yeah? Okay, so,

2385
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 1: but but that's another guy that you got quality depth,

2386
02:11:57,640 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that I think you could move

2387
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 1: on from and this isn't necessarily someone that would play,

2388
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, on a down and down basis, but two

2389
02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: guys that you can create some cap room with, and

2390
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:11,840
Speaker 1: they're valuable players. But when you look at an aj

2391
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,680
Speaker 1: Klein and you look at a Tyler Amadakavich, can you

2392
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:18,080
Speaker 1: replace Medakavich? And you could peel a couple million bucks

2393
02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 1: off the salary cap there and then aj Klein, I

2394
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:23,880
Speaker 1: believe is in the six million range. You can get

2395
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:27,960
Speaker 1: back there. And so those to me, although those guys

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02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:31,320
Speaker 1: have played valuable roles, as you see the development of

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02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:36,600
Speaker 1: a Andre Smith of a Terrell Dodson, you know, are

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02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:41,160
Speaker 1: those guys you saw them late in the year bring

2399
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 1: up Giles Harris, Like, are those guys ready to be

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Speaker 1: one of those true backup roles where it's not hey,

2401
02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:51,080
Speaker 1: you're playing a bass defense, it's hey, Milano's got a

2402
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:54,400
Speaker 1: nicked up hamstring for a week, or Tremade Edmonds misses

2403
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 1: a game. Can you rely on those guys to come in?

2404
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:59,320
Speaker 1: And if you can, then you can get some serious

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02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:01,880
Speaker 1: caperine back. I could back up WindMan. Yeah, break time

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Speaker 1: for us here, Eric and I will wrap it up

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Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live stay tuned all right

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Speaker 1: back on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Eric Wood with you,

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Speaker 1: and we'll keep our ear to the ground to see

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Speaker 1: what other developments come down the pike here. Although the

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02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:32,360
Speaker 1: coaching staff for the most part is set, unless you're

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02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:36,839
Speaker 1: gonna hire an assistant quarterbacks coach, knowing that Shay Tierney

2413
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,360
Speaker 1: is going to be at least from all reports, going

2414
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Speaker 1: to be going to join Brian Dable in New York

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Speaker 1: with the Giants to be the quarterbacks coach there, obviously

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02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:48,680
Speaker 1: getting a promotion. Yeah, and do we have an assistant

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02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 1: offensive line coach right as well, Ryan Wendell. But Ryan,

2418
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 1: that Wendell was kind of a day ball guy who

2419
02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 1: played for day Ball in right England. Keep you making

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02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 1: the jumper there, I know he interviewed for that offensive

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Speaker 1: line Charis Show. Thanks for helping us out today, Eric,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We'll catch up with you down the line.

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Speaker 1: Look for our Bills by the Numbers podcast this weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's out on your podcast platforms.