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Speaker 1: and now your hosts Nate Knew, Josh Ellis, Kurt Daniels,
Speaker 1: and Shannon Gross Volume five issue whatever. We are back
Speaker 1: to the way things should be, no spiky hair starting
Speaker 1: the show today. It's the real host. It's me Josh Ellis,
Speaker 1: joined by of course Nate Newton. And here he is
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross kicking Kurt Daniels out of the room or
Speaker 1: at least over to share with Nate where you know.
Speaker 1: There's no waiting today because we have a special. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you. Where were you You've come to
Speaker 1: give me a twelve thirty that was in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I was in a lunch room on twenty seven. Josh
Speaker 1: just slid right back in. This is not the way
Speaker 1: the show works, Josh, for no longer the whole I
Speaker 1: know you feel like you are. So. We got an
Speaker 1: email this morning from Shannon say it says. It says
Speaker 1: we're having Darren McFadden's micup closer. Push McFadden's micup closer
Speaker 1: to hear you can hear you, Douglas. We got an
Speaker 1: email this morning. It says we're having Darren McFadden on
Speaker 1: the show. We really liked having players during training camp,
Speaker 1: and and uh, let's be careful not to offend them.
Speaker 1: Let well, we'll ask a couple of football questions, but
Speaker 1: we want to keep these relationships up so we do.
Speaker 1: So just be careful with them. And here you come
Speaker 1: in here throwing arrows at our first guest, Darren McFadden.
Speaker 1: That's a different kind of trust. And and by the way,
Speaker 1: I know who you were aiming that at. And in Gmail,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask players, so I want to start out
Speaker 1: with a with a fire hot question for Darren. Okay,
Speaker 1: how are you doing today? It's pretty good man sitting
Speaker 1: around email lunch and say he's coming to give me
Speaker 1: a twelve thirty twelve twenty seventy hit. I figured I
Speaker 1: should make way over here. He is usually late. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to invade your lunch space. That's like your
Speaker 1: personal area. At least one of us is responsible around here, Darren, Right, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: hang on, Nate needs some volume over I think Nate's
Speaker 1: Mike is quite worked up. Football players, they're they're built
Speaker 1: to work on schedules, yes, and what is the Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin thing. If you're not five minutes earlier, you're late.
Speaker 1: That's my model. Also, yeah, I try to get here
Speaker 1: on time. Well next time I'll know. Sorry, Darren, all right,
Speaker 1: Nate try it out now? No, no, not quite. We
Speaker 1: got static, but that's it. That's the Joe amazonal way.
Speaker 1: You know, we believe in that too. Man. We started
Speaker 1: our means in awere from special team, especially our special
Speaker 1: teams mean now that one can start ten minutes earlier,
Speaker 1: but always our individual and meeting with the head coach
Speaker 1: was always five minutes earlier. We all we started like that.
Speaker 1: So I'm wishing McFadden on this one hill parting. I
Speaker 1: got the roll with the player, but I was waiting
Speaker 1: for him in the locker room. I was where I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Okay, we're over. We're over. We
Speaker 1: don't have nearly as much sway around here as the
Speaker 1: head coach, or we don't special teams coach or you know,
Speaker 1: let's go with the football questions. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: all the football questions. I'm gonna ask the easy ones. Okay, go,
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun, big game on Saturday. You
Speaker 1: were rolling. You had the crown vet gassed up. What, um, people,
Speaker 1: anytime you only get to play two series, people are
Speaker 1: gonna like look at one thing more than any other thing.
Speaker 1: So you had like three carries of double digit yards
Speaker 1: right in a row. Offense is rolling. You did fumble.
Speaker 1: What happened on the fumble? You know? For me, Um,
Speaker 1: that's something I take a lot of pride and holding
Speaker 1: onto the ball and protecting the ball. Just Um, I
Speaker 1: wasn't securing it like I said, have being man. He
Speaker 1: gat it at loose on me and I took the
Speaker 1: hit and you know it popped out with you know,
Speaker 1: I was ready to turn to a defender out of that,
Speaker 1: but luckily, um, he already on the ground and to
Speaker 1: your defense, I was right, I was down there. It
Speaker 1: was a good hit. Was he didn't just bump you know,
Speaker 1: he got you. So it was Hey, I see how
Speaker 1: that could come lose better? Now the next month you
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I say, man, like I said, I'd take
Speaker 1: a lot of pride and partaking the vail and um,
Speaker 1: that's that's something you definitely won't see that very often
Speaker 1: at all. What do it feel like? Um? You know
Speaker 1: you didn't of course there was the weird thing with
Speaker 1: the pup list or whatever last year. And so now
Speaker 1: you're you're looking at for the foreseeable future. You're you're
Speaker 1: the bell cow here, You're gonna be the lead back.
Speaker 1: What did it feel like to be behind that offensive
Speaker 1: line in a game situation and seeing seeing all those
Speaker 1: holes developing, knowing what you've got ahead of you, No,
Speaker 1: just being out there behind those guys, man, Um. I
Speaker 1: know they take a lot of pride in what they
Speaker 1: do up front, and that's something I love about them.
Speaker 1: They work hard on a lot of people. Just see
Speaker 1: them out there in game on game day, but them
Speaker 1: around them every day and I see that. The way
Speaker 1: that they work in the way room, the way that
Speaker 1: they work on the field. You know, I love it
Speaker 1: in them. Anytime you get a chance to run behind
Speaker 1: those guys, just a great opportunit. Now, Nate, you've been
Speaker 1: watching a lot of films. Yes, what did you see?
Speaker 1: What did you see Saturday? I saw a very explosive guy, man.
Speaker 1: I just told him when he walked in the room,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, man, here looking like a young Arkansas razorback.
Speaker 1: I mean physically, man, you look you look smooth, You
Speaker 1: look good. I mean you was running. I mean I
Speaker 1: saw you literally running behind your pads, and normally you
Speaker 1: kind of got you smoothed up right there. But this
Speaker 1: game here, it's like you got behind your pads a
Speaker 1: little bit better. No, I've been feeling great, I'll see.
Speaker 1: You know, I missed a lot of those games last
Speaker 1: year dealing with the elbow injury. So I'm you know,
Speaker 1: my boddy didn't take much of a punishment last year,
Speaker 1: and I went to the off season healthy. I stayed
Speaker 1: healthy all all season, and you know, I'm just ready
Speaker 1: to coming here and just pick up the slack whisks
Speaker 1: leaving right now. People always say about running backs that,
Speaker 1: you know, the age of twenty eight is kind of
Speaker 1: a real line of demarcation their careers. They don't they
Speaker 1: don't they don't seem to get better because they've taken
Speaker 1: so much punishment. But having basically a whole year off
Speaker 1: last year, I mean, can you just tell us more
Speaker 1: about just how fresh your legs feel compared to you know,
Speaker 1: having played full seasons before and having you know, it
Speaker 1: had really I don't know how many carries you got
Speaker 1: last year. It couldn't have been more than thirty or
Speaker 1: forty oh yeah at all with them. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of people say the fresh legs and stuff, but
Speaker 1: you know, you're going through training camp, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: deal with a leg fatiguing things. But you know, the
Speaker 1: old I get in my career, man, the more learning
Speaker 1: to take care of my body. And it's something that
Speaker 1: a lot of old players say now, like, uh, I
Speaker 1: wish I would have knew my rookie second year or
Speaker 1: what I know now about taking care of my body
Speaker 1: and just eating healthy and but you know, those things
Speaker 1: really come into play, especially at the older age. And
Speaker 1: you know, for me, Um, I don't feel like I've
Speaker 1: lost the step at all. I feel like I'm able
Speaker 1: to go out there and still carry a load. So
Speaker 1: you had some some nice striped bass for lunch? You are,
Speaker 1: you are eating healthy little zucchini. What else do you
Speaker 1: do to take care of your body now? You know,
Speaker 1: like I say, eating healthy man, cold tub, high tub.
Speaker 1: You know that's something I've always done, the cold tub,
Speaker 1: and you know, just try to stay on top of it.
Speaker 1: But I mean it every day of not two or
Speaker 1: three times a day now, and I feel like there's
Speaker 1: something that helped my leg recover the most and you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to get the right rest. I don't go
Speaker 1: out and hang out all night or anything like that anymore.
Speaker 1: And you know, just you're a run if you're a
Speaker 1: young running back, you can do that. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like my younger days I felt like I could. But
Speaker 1: like I said, if I knew now, I knew that
Speaker 1: then where I know now, I definitely wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: doing it. Then. How old are you now, Darren, I'm
Speaker 1: twenty nine. I'll beat thirty on twenty seventh. All right,
Speaker 1: So tell everybody. We kind of know your story. Tell
Speaker 1: everybody where you grew up, where you went to high school,
Speaker 1: getting recruited out of high school, why you picked Arkansas
Speaker 1: and then getting in the league, and how'd you wind
Speaker 1: up here? Born and raised the Little Rock, Arkansas. I
Speaker 1: went to Oak Grove High School, which is in north
Speaker 1: of the Rock, just right across the water from where
Speaker 1: I grew up. Then, uh, you know, I came out.
Speaker 1: I was a top recrew coming out, but for me,
Speaker 1: it was hands down, I'm going to University of Arkansas.
Speaker 1: So I didn't even take a visit anywhere else or
Speaker 1: didn't attain any other officers anything I knew. I want
Speaker 1: to go. I committed a junior in high school so
Speaker 1: that where I could play my senior year and I
Speaker 1: had to worry about to recruit. And came out twenty
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight first round draft pick and played
Speaker 1: in Oakland for seven years, and you know, I've been
Speaker 1: here since twenty fifteen. Yeah, what's the biggest difference between
Speaker 1: Oakland and Dallas? You know, besides the one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten degree heat in the summer, you know, Um, it's
Speaker 1: just a different environment, man. You know, and Oakland we
Speaker 1: were kind of on a down slid back then, and
Speaker 1: you know, they definitely came around now. But it's just
Speaker 1: a different environment. To win an atmosphere here and know,
Speaker 1: it's something that you love about it, so it makes
Speaker 1: it a joy to come to work every day. Yeah, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask a question. It's hard to jump in there, man.
Speaker 1: Let's go reading some of your history. I mean, you
Speaker 1: grew up in a tough, tough neighborhood. It sounds like
Speaker 1: you had family members of friends, ran gangs, that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. How did you manage to stay away from
Speaker 1: all that get out of that situation? You know, I
Speaker 1: always tell people, for me, growing up. I didn't know
Speaker 1: exactly what I what I wanted to do, but I
Speaker 1: knew what I didn't want to do from growing up
Speaker 1: around a gang, violence and drugs and things. I knew
Speaker 1: though something that you know, I didn't want to go
Speaker 1: and take that same path. And you know, look for me,
Speaker 1: I was blessed with the talent to play football, you know,
Speaker 1: and I took the opportunity around with it. Said something.
Speaker 1: Still keep in touch going back, you know, you can
Speaker 1: keep in touch with you have to keep in touch
Speaker 1: from afar. So it's one of those things, man. You know,
Speaker 1: I still have good friends that I talked to that
Speaker 1: I grew up in my neighborhood and stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: I would never not talk to him anything. They have
Speaker 1: been some of my best buddies growing up since we
Speaker 1: were five and six years old. So I was going
Speaker 1: to talk to him and still be you know, with
Speaker 1: just a different points in life right now. How often
Speaker 1: do you go back? I try to get back as
Speaker 1: much as I can off season and come with My
Speaker 1: kids actually still live in Arkansas, they don't live here
Speaker 1: in Texas with me, so anytime I can get back
Speaker 1: there now, my family lived there, so yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: enjoyed to be able to get back and visit them.
Speaker 1: So how do you spend your nights then, I mean,
Speaker 1: since you don't do you know that nightlife and you
Speaker 1: eating better? When what how do you do a nightlife? Then?
Speaker 1: What your what is your nightlife? For me? Man, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty boring? Man. They always said. I can remember hearing
Speaker 1: people when I was growing up and stuff, and early
Speaker 1: in my years in the NFL, they would say being
Speaker 1: bored is actually a good thing. And yes, you know,
Speaker 1: I definitely understand that now because you know, going to
Speaker 1: hanging out, Yeah, it's fun and do it at the
Speaker 1: time you're doing it, but you know, with the strain
Speaker 1: and the stress it put on your body, it's not
Speaker 1: so much fun. Video games, reading books, just make something up, man.
Speaker 1: People want to be like, ah, yeah music, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: pretty much a big chilled guy. Man. I watched a
Speaker 1: lot of Animal Planning Discovery Channel and you watch Shark
Speaker 1: Week out of Training Camp, Yeah, I did. I watched
Speaker 1: a lot of Shark week doing training Camp. And you know,
Speaker 1: for me, I guess I feel like I've been ran
Speaker 1: the street so much as far as hanging out and
Speaker 1: partying as at a younger age that to me, it
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me to sit at home and not do
Speaker 1: anything all day. I'm with you on that, bro. You
Speaker 1: watch any other shows you in the Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: or Walking Dead or any of that. I hadn't got
Speaker 1: into the Game of Thrones. Everybody tells me about it, man,
Speaker 1: But I gotta get on. So I'm so far behind
Speaker 1: right now as far as a matter too weeks just
Speaker 1: to try and catch up. Take you, like two months,
Speaker 1: I hadn't caught up with it, but um, I've definitely
Speaker 1: heard a lot about it. That'll be a good two months.
Speaker 1: So today going into practice, man, But you've been a veteran.
Speaker 1: Do you do you look forward to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get as many reps as you can, or
Speaker 1: you just you just wait for your time to be called?
Speaker 1: Or how do you feel about that situation? Because like
Speaker 1: what man Josh said, it could it could. We don't
Speaker 1: know at this point. It could be where you're gonna
Speaker 1: be the bell cow. So are you trying to get
Speaker 1: as many reps as you can? You pressing coaching a
Speaker 1: little bit? Are you just being patient for me? I'm
Speaker 1: just being patient right now, you know. But I always
Speaker 1: take the same approach every day. Um, whether I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be the second guy at the first guy, I'm taking
Speaker 1: the same approaching. I'm gonna be working like the first
Speaker 1: guy regardless. And you know it's always good for a
Speaker 1: running back just to get stuff to get in there
Speaker 1: and get your movement going to things. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those deals. For me. I've been around
Speaker 1: the league a long time, so I know how to
Speaker 1: go about my business, and you know, the rest that
Speaker 1: I do count, I make them count as a veteran player.
Speaker 1: Do you hate this time of year? I think one
Speaker 1: of the most things I hate about training account for
Speaker 1: me is just having to be away from being away
Speaker 1: from home so long. My mom used to being able
Speaker 1: to go home on all days and things. When I
Speaker 1: was in Oakland, we were an hour away from where
Speaker 1: I lived and so I could drive home on all
Speaker 1: the day. But you know, this past training account was
Speaker 1: the first year old. If my wife didn't come out,
Speaker 1: so I was going a full three weeks and didn't
Speaker 1: get to see each other and things, so that one
Speaker 1: was kind of hard. Did you eat any rice peeloft
Speaker 1: when we were out there? I definitely did every damn
Speaker 1: day they have rice pelf and then they try to
Speaker 1: trick you and then they say it seasoned rice and
Speaker 1: just make it a different color. It's funny. Before you
Speaker 1: came in, we were talking about there with the grilled chicken,
Speaker 1: the barbecue chicken, the pistol chicken. It was all the same,
Speaker 1: just a different name every way. But the best way.
Speaker 1: So you can have chicken fried, it's they have it
Speaker 1: every other way. Never. I think we had chicken strips
Speaker 1: maybe one night, and that was as close to fried
Speaker 1: chicken as we got. Maybe once. Had snack a couple
Speaker 1: of times, y'all did we didn't. They don't give us
Speaker 1: the good stuff. Should have came around then I did.
Speaker 1: Bro The food truck night was awesome though, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely great. Um, you know, like I said, it's something
Speaker 1: I love about here. Um, they make it fun for
Speaker 1: you know. And I was in Oakland. We were training camp,
Speaker 1: training camp food. But you know, to be able to
Speaker 1: go have movie nights with the team, hang out with
Speaker 1: the guys, and you know, bringing them food trucks from
Speaker 1: time to time, that's something I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of the players really enjoy. Yeah, speaking of the guys,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Rod Smith on While I was waiting
Speaker 1: on you, I got bored and I started talking to Rod.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you want to come on the
Speaker 1: show tomorrow. He's like, yeah, I'll do it. What's something?
Speaker 1: What's something we can ask him that nobody knows, or
Speaker 1: something that's funny that we can. You ask them why
Speaker 1: they call them tax man? Tax man? Yeah? Okay? Is
Speaker 1: they gonna get us in trouble now? Is that gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those questions? Like I told Josh not
Speaker 1: to ask us, to make you ask. We have a
Speaker 1: thing in a running back room where we have a
Speaker 1: fine stytem just within our own room, whether if you like,
Speaker 1: if you miss, if you make a mental error, or
Speaker 1: you fumble the ball. And so I'm actually three fifty
Speaker 1: in the hole right now and I had a mental
Speaker 1: era Saturday night with So we have a fine system
Speaker 1: set up that we all go about and Rod is
Speaker 1: always the one that calls it out. So he keeps
Speaker 1: he keeps the books. He don't keep the books, but
Speaker 1: he definitely lets know. What's it like to see young
Speaker 1: guy like him who's kind of played some different roles?
Speaker 1: Is he a fullback? Is he a running back? He's
Speaker 1: changing his weight here and there, came into the league
Speaker 1: without much fanfare. Is just being like Jalen Smith's brother
Speaker 1: and and now, I mean it looks like he's gonna
Speaker 1: stick around here and have some a chance to get
Speaker 1: some touches in the regular season. You know, Like I say,
Speaker 1: I'm around these guys every day just working and stuff, man,
Speaker 1: and I see what he can do. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't don't be at the practice in
Speaker 1: and the individual workouts and things that we have, but
Speaker 1: you know, I see the things that he can do
Speaker 1: in them. He's definitely a great runner, Like he's going
Speaker 1: to be a good running this league also. And I'm
Speaker 1: very happy for him that he's been having a great
Speaker 1: camp man, and I look forward to seeing him this season.
Speaker 1: It's tough to find that balanced because you want to
Speaker 1: help each other, but you're also competing against each other
Speaker 1: for carries, you know, for us as running backs, man,
Speaker 1: it's always going to be a competition. And U you know, um,
Speaker 1: but when I came in as a rookie, I had
Speaker 1: older guys ahead of me, and being a high draft pick,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know what they speed coming in,
Speaker 1: but they took me under their wings. And you know,
Speaker 1: they showed me the ropes and you know, I'm the
Speaker 1: same way. Man, I pick up these young guys taking
Speaker 1: one of my wings, try to show them the rope was.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: just about having one guy back there can have a boy, y'alls,
Speaker 1: you have to have other guys. It's ready also. So
Speaker 1: you've talked to us a lot today about how as
Speaker 1: you've progressed in the league. You're a veteran, you learn
Speaker 1: these things like it's better to be boring, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We got to ask you about Zeke. Zeke's not lived
Speaker 1: the boring life since he got to Dallas. What's the
Speaker 1: process for him going to be of figuring that out
Speaker 1: and and how to how to just be available to
Speaker 1: the team. You know, Um, it's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: I feel like it comes with maturity. Man. He's a
Speaker 1: young guy. He walking to a great situation and um,
Speaker 1: you know, um that was just a great city and
Speaker 1: it's a lot to go on and a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff to get into. And so I just feel like
Speaker 1: for him, you know, it's just just gonna take the
Speaker 1: time phone the mature you know. Um, a lot of
Speaker 1: people they look at the headlines and things he get
Speaker 1: caught up in where you know, he's a great guy,
Speaker 1: he's a great teammate. You know, all the guys love
Speaker 1: being around him. He's a fun guy. Of having a
Speaker 1: locker room, who's one guy pick one defensive guy and
Speaker 1: one offensive guy that you've been surprised by a camp like,
Speaker 1: who's somebody You're like, okay, wow, you know my offensive
Speaker 1: guy had to go with a Cooper rush Man. He's
Speaker 1: been doing a great job and a lot of things
Speaker 1: that he's doing out there. And my defensive guy, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Jalen Man because you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: get to get out there on the field. He hasn't
Speaker 1: played much ball in the last year and a half
Speaker 1: for two years, and you know, just to see the
Speaker 1: way that he's worked off camping, worked off season last year, Man,
Speaker 1: he's been doing a heck of a job. Talk about
Speaker 1: that a little bit because we see it because we're
Speaker 1: out here with you guys, right. Talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about how what a guy, the kind of guy is
Speaker 1: in that locker room, what he is out on the field,
Speaker 1: and seeing him work as hard as he did to
Speaker 1: get back to where he's at, Like, how did that
Speaker 1: affect you? Guys? Know? Um, I worked out with him
Speaker 1: every day last year pretty much because we were both
Speaker 1: what we were missing time, you know, that's when I
Speaker 1: was dealing with my elbow. But just to see the
Speaker 1: progression that he made from week one up until the
Speaker 1: time the season was over. Man, I feel like if
Speaker 1: he was where I would say about week nine or ten,
Speaker 1: if he was at the point in week one, he
Speaker 1: would have played last year, you know, just to see
Speaker 1: him go from being going into his cuts and kind
Speaker 1: of being softened to him before he break out of
Speaker 1: and then just to see how it turned all the
Speaker 1: way around for me, just he just cut and pop
Speaker 1: out of him. Man, it was just great to see.
Speaker 1: So what'd you do this off season? It was a
Speaker 1: pretty chill I was season for him actually, man, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm pretty chill. Went on vacations with my
Speaker 1: wife and kids. We went to a white I think
Speaker 1: one of the fun things that we did while we
Speaker 1: were there we went shark diving them. It was pretty old.
Speaker 1: What kind of sharks they were in a cage? Huh?
Speaker 1: I did that when I went it was it was
Speaker 1: it was pretty and see like I'm a big shark guy,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this is gonna be so cool.
Speaker 1: But when it got time to jump in the cage,
Speaker 1: like I hyperventilated a little bit. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can do this. Man. It was
Speaker 1: cool though, it's funny. It was It was cool because
Speaker 1: I have a six year old and he's just fearless. Man.
Speaker 1: So we were under the water with the snore looking
Speaker 1: out and I can see his leg just dangling outside.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, man, I know you gotta go. You
Speaker 1: gotta get back in that locker room with those other
Speaker 1: media guys so they can they can have what you
Speaker 1: got one man. Yeah, So I heard a guy call
Speaker 1: you last a little Rock. Do you go by the
Speaker 1: Little Rock or that's you can just call the name
Speaker 1: Little Rock? How we get into little Rock? Brock? Usually
Speaker 1: when people have a little Rock or something, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's someone that's from the hometown. They okay, from
Speaker 1: Little Rock or have some kind of association with Little Rock. Okay,
Speaker 1: you just let the cat out of the bag. Now,
Speaker 1: next game, a little Rocky? What nickname do you get? What? Run?
Speaker 1: DMC d MAC. You go by pretty much everything? Now, man,
Speaker 1: run dmc d mac um. A lot of people growing up,
Speaker 1: they always calling me d Dog. So that's one nickname
Speaker 1: that I always stuck with me, d Dog. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call you d Dog. All right, man. We appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on the show. Hopefully we can get you on
Speaker 1: some more during the season once we get going to
Speaker 1: get you out of locker room. Definitely, what's one one
Speaker 1: more thing? When I was in there a while ago,
Speaker 1: they're like four dudes just sacked out. It looked like
Speaker 1: naptime in kindergarten. They had their heads on, like their
Speaker 1: their bags Like, is that a new thing? No, we're
Speaker 1: still on a training account schedule, so in training account.
Speaker 1: When this time in training account, we were to go
Speaker 1: back to the rooms and take ah so right now
Speaker 1: since we're not at a fistal hotel, so then we
Speaker 1: had to you know, freedom West. When people walk by
Speaker 1: Shannon's desk, they ask the same question. Got head down? Yeah, yep,
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Speaker 1: about that old d dog in the house. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting. How is this running back situation going to
Speaker 1: play out? I hope Zeke learns a few things from Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's handling his business off the field. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: interesting to hear him say he just needs to mature
Speaker 1: a little bit, which I think we all do. I
Speaker 1: mean now, I do now, and I'm forty four. I
Speaker 1: think he may have been exaggerating some of the things
Speaker 1: he got into as a younger guy. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe you go out and and and do stuff with
Speaker 1: the local nightlife more than when you're twenty two or
Speaker 1: twenty one than you do when you're twenty nine. But
Speaker 1: he was never any There was never any kind of
Speaker 1: headline about him in Oakland. I don't remember any. And
Speaker 1: maybe that speaks to just sort of the spotlight that's
Speaker 1: on Cowboys players compared to Raiders players. But um, it
Speaker 1: keeps popping up for Zeke and and you you would
Speaker 1: like to think that, um, he can learn something from
Speaker 1: Darren mcfraden, mcfre add, Alfred Morris and any of the
Speaker 1: other veterans in the room. Yeah, how do you think
Speaker 1: on the field this is gonna play play out? And
Speaker 1: we'll get to this a little bit later. We'll recap
Speaker 1: the game a little bit and see who are you know?
Speaker 1: Who are guys were for the game. But one guy
Speaker 1: that I've been really impressed with the whole preseason in
Speaker 1: camp has been Rod Smith since day one. That's one
Speaker 1: of the reason why I want to grab him, get
Speaker 1: him on the shows because he looked really good in
Speaker 1: the game. Nate, what are you seeing on the field
Speaker 1: from him on tape? And then how do you expect
Speaker 1: Do you expect him to move into the number two
Speaker 1: spot ahead of Alfred Mars or do you expect Alfred
Speaker 1: to be your number two? How do you think this
Speaker 1: is gonna play out? That's hard to say because Jason
Speaker 1: Garretton like dependable guys who handled the ball, so it'll
Speaker 1: be hard. But man, he is from the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game all the way to now. He's ran with
Speaker 1: the third and whatever guys, and he's found holes in
Speaker 1: tough situation, He's made plays. We know he can do
Speaker 1: a little a fullback. Uh, he catched the ball. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean he got lost at Ohio State, you know,
Speaker 1: doing a transition period. And I don't see how the
Speaker 1: coach didn't know he was a talent, because he is
Speaker 1: a talent. So we'll see this this this third game.
Speaker 1: I like this third game because and I only tells
Speaker 1: you who the starters are, who we mostly know who
Speaker 1: they the guys, but it also tells us who's the backups?
Speaker 1: Who are they really looking at it. At the backups
Speaker 1: we can talk and speculate, but the backups, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what sort of opportunities
Speaker 1: Rod Smith gets with the first team. Uh this coming
Speaker 1: this coming Saturday. Is he gonna get as as much
Speaker 1: of a chance as Alfred Morris? Because to me, that's
Speaker 1: that's you know, at least at the point when Zeke
Speaker 1: is eligible, that's a decision they'll have to make. Are
Speaker 1: we keeping Rod Smith or Alfred Morris. It looks like
Speaker 1: Rod Smith has has a lot more burst at this
Speaker 1: point than special teams to more special teams. And Nate,
Speaker 1: you and I talked about this yesterday practice. Is Rod's
Speaker 1: been doing all this behind the second third team offensive line. Right,
Speaker 1: you put him out there with the first team. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to see what he can do.
Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing because and I tell people this,
Speaker 1: you know, I had a few guys that man, did
Speaker 1: you see mcfatt And I said, and I said, man,
Speaker 1: I love mcfatten, so I love alf from Mars. I said,
Speaker 1: but see what the difference is. Zeke is in a
Speaker 1: lot of those things are touchdowns, so you know, so,
Speaker 1: and I think Rod Smith has that ability to get
Speaker 1: to the house. I think Zeke is our first guy
Speaker 1: of course getting to the house, because touchdowns is what
Speaker 1: how you win games. Then I think mcfatt, But I
Speaker 1: think Rod is right behind him for us being able
Speaker 1: to take that thing to break one. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's been running behind not so good
Speaker 1: off his line. Got good off his line, so his
Speaker 1: movement and he's a short yardage guy. Now I notice
Speaker 1: he can he can get the first. Now, the year
Speaker 1: two years ago was we wasn't standing on the field
Speaker 1: long enough, We wasn't getting as short yardage downs, and
Speaker 1: we didn't haven't about to get to get the home run.
Speaker 1: It was a lot tougher than because you didn't have
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They have a quarterback. Now the defenses are
Speaker 1: you're you're you're seeing it. They're gonna have to respect
Speaker 1: because that can just like pick pick apart a defense
Speaker 1: all the way up and down the field and so
Speaker 1: um that's that's gonna open up things for the running
Speaker 1: game as long as Zeke is out. But you know,
Speaker 1: the the Colts are probably not as good of a
Speaker 1: test as as they'll get on Saturday against Oakland, and
Speaker 1: especially in the regular season, it's not going to be
Speaker 1: as easy as it was against Indianapolis. But I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be. They're gonna be just fine with with
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden behind that offensive line there, it's gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna work. I just Josh, I believe I would like
Speaker 1: to see four or five games in because I've seen
Speaker 1: what first play schedules through the teams. It's not nothing
Speaker 1: nice when you go from where you were and you
Speaker 1: explode on the scene. Now you're a hunted guy and
Speaker 1: you playing against other other guys that can give you
Speaker 1: what you can give them. You know, we're gonna play
Speaker 1: teams that can control the football or can get forty
Speaker 1: five fifty points. So I just I'm await and see
Speaker 1: because when you have Ezekiel Elliott automatically no first and
Speaker 1: tens second to five, I got a possible at eight
Speaker 1: nine man front. I don't know that now, right, do
Speaker 1: you think that Roger Smith, like you've been saying, he's
Speaker 1: been running behind third string lineman, but he's also been
Speaker 1: facing third string defenses. Has he earned a chance now
Speaker 1: that we do need to see him with YEA with
Speaker 1: a second string team behind them. Just see first team team.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Will Yeah, you know because when
Speaker 1: you know, I talked to him once a week and
Speaker 1: I try to pick his brain. But that's the first
Speaker 1: thing come up, Kurt is Well, we we always aware
Speaker 1: of who they playing against. But if a guy steps
Speaker 1: up above what he's playing against, then that allows him,
Speaker 1: like Cooper Rush yesterday, to run a little bit behind
Speaker 1: the second team because he's stepped up a bud to Frey,
Speaker 1: that's all you're trying to do is show people I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit of board to Fray speaking, that's a
Speaker 1: great segue into this is Cooper Rush for the first
Speaker 1: time took snaps behind the second team. I think Coach
Speaker 1: said in his press conference again today They're gonna see
Speaker 1: what he's doing, seeing what opportunity, what comes out of
Speaker 1: this opportunity. Is it time to throw in the towel
Speaker 1: on Kellen Moore or in going a different direction, or
Speaker 1: is this just kind of a let's just this guy
Speaker 1: shown a little bit. Let's give him a little bit
Speaker 1: more opportunity and work with the second team as opposed
Speaker 1: to the third team. Yeah, I don't think they're ready
Speaker 1: to throw it in with more. I mean, they still
Speaker 1: coaches over there still value his experience and all that.
Speaker 1: But Cooper has earned enough to least, like Nate said,
Speaker 1: he's gone above the fray of the third four teamers.
Speaker 1: He needs a little shot at the second teamers. And
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting because he's kind of playing his
Speaker 1: way into you know, he may not get moved to
Speaker 1: the practice squad. If he gets cut, he might be gone.
Speaker 1: And so he's put himself in an interesting position with
Speaker 1: this team, and they're gonna have a tough decision. Possibly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take you back ten years. There was a quarterback
Speaker 1: who had a pretty good preseason in training camp, who
Speaker 1: they thought no, no, no, who shut up and let
Speaker 1: me get there. Who they thought they could maybe stow
Speaker 1: on the practice squad sneak him through and nobody picked
Speaker 1: him up. And that guy was Matt Moore. And he's
Speaker 1: still in the league ten years later, and he started
Speaker 1: for full seasons and he's like the picturesque back up today.
Speaker 1: So at this point, I don't think that they could
Speaker 1: sneak him through, but it'll be interesting to see what
Speaker 1: he can do with this opportunity. Kellen Moore, you know,
Speaker 1: disastrous as some some things have been. The fumble was ugly. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he's had he's had plenty of issues, but he
Speaker 1: does kind of They do kind of move the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean he can throw it a little bit. They
Speaker 1: don't take big chunks. But it's don't know, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you're talking about a four hundred and fifty yard
Speaker 1: game and I know this is two seasons ago against Washington,
Speaker 1: but uh, he's he's done a little something. We have
Speaker 1: a special guest that just showed up on set. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to share the mind though that's not working.
Speaker 1: I don't think your headset's working. Can you guys hear me?
Speaker 1: We can, Yes. Scooter McGruder just joined the show. How
Speaker 1: are you doing, Scooter? Living with Joy. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: you doing here in town? Uh? You guys will see
Speaker 1: coming up soon. Sounds that sounds really shady. I can't
Speaker 1: disclose eyes of yet, but we're making power moves over here.
Speaker 1: So Scooter is the guy. If you if you kept
Speaker 1: up with our social media last year, did the how
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans watched the game that we put out on
Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter and pretty pretty spot on how we
Speaker 1: as fans watched the game. And one of the questions
Speaker 1: that I get a lot is are you really a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan? I am really a Cowboys fan, die Hard
Speaker 1: day one. I was there from the beginning nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: so that would put you at about how old. Not
Speaker 1: that I mean my dad was a fan. You kind
Speaker 1: of grew up liking the team your dad likes. So
Speaker 1: that's how I got into that. Very cool. And I
Speaker 1: kind of saw one of your videos somewhere else that
Speaker 1: I think you did for Whistle Sports and actually did
Speaker 1: some research and found out that you were a Cowboys
Speaker 1: fan because you were freaking out when you went to
Speaker 1: and toward the stadium. And I reached out to you
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, since you're really a fan,
Speaker 1: because you do these for sec and in Florida, right,
Speaker 1: went you went to uf I did go Gators, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I reached out to you and that's kind of
Speaker 1: when we started doing these things together. And um, we
Speaker 1: did about six of them last year, the beginning of
Speaker 1: a beautiful relationship. Yeah, and we're gonna do some more
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Speaker 1: on with Cowboys and and other other things that you'll
Speaker 1: find out about really soon. So yeah, that's what that's
Speaker 1: what he's doing up here. So, oh, guys, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys having me on. I just wanted to say
Speaker 1: hi to Cowboys Nation and we're winning the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: this year. All right, like you heard it there for Scooter.
Speaker 1: Scooter McGruder, Are you going to be in town for
Speaker 1: a few days, right, Okay, so we may have you
Speaker 1: back on later this week for a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: All right. Appreciate it man, good seeing to you. What
Speaker 1: were we talking about. We're talking about Kellen Moore, Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore and Cooper Rush. I decided Kellen Moore sucks. Well
Speaker 1: he's well he scooters like that. Huh Yeah, I changed
Speaker 1: my mind. It was interesting that out of all the
Speaker 1: people Nate didn't have a whole lot of time for
Speaker 1: Scooter Gritter, Nah, because rather about you know, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know him, so I let my man hand.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, mom, sa, if you ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing nice to say, what is this blind spot that
Speaker 1: I have that I don't know who this guy is
Speaker 1: when they're walking up like whoa look, no idea, but
Speaker 1: but nah, you know there's another one of them. We
Speaker 1: got to know. We got to know our coaches and
Speaker 1: uh and in the head coach and the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: at this time. Now, Jason can be swayed if if
Speaker 1: Rush does his thing, he can be swayed. But he's
Speaker 1: got to prove Atlantahan that, uh, he can do the job.
Speaker 1: That's what he got. He got to prove that Atlantahan
Speaker 1: because Atlantahan likes where Keller Moore is, you know, so
Speaker 1: that's his that's his kind of guy, right, So he
Speaker 1: likes where he is. So you know, I I look, man,
Speaker 1: and he's a little bit of blood of phrase. So
Speaker 1: he gets he gets he gets a bump up this week. Now,
Speaker 1: I've been out of the loop compared to you guys
Speaker 1: out of training camp. And then I was out of
Speaker 1: the country. Whatever happened to Josh McCallen. He's still here.
Speaker 1: He's just what's he doing. He's a practice him pretty well.
Speaker 1: He's been hurt too, and he's hurt. You know what,
Speaker 1: I said something ugly the other day, and I want
Speaker 1: to apologizee you know about this kid I mean to
Speaker 1: be in the NFL. You know, I said I called
Speaker 1: him a loser and that was totally wrong, and so
Speaker 1: I want to apologize. He's not a loser. This kid
Speaker 1: has been in the league, he's played. I think he's
Speaker 1: a winner just about where he's at in his life.
Speaker 1: But for his the win loss record, And that's what
Speaker 1: I was kind of getting at. He's him and kell
Speaker 1: Him Moore are the same guys, and I'd rather keep
Speaker 1: Kelling Moore, let him go about his way, and keep
Speaker 1: the other kid, Cooper Rush, because you want to continue
Speaker 1: to improve your team. I think out the while, when
Speaker 1: you just keep retreads, you get stagnant. Yeah, get stagnan.
Speaker 1: That best guy up and coming don't get a chance
Speaker 1: to grow. Backup. Quarterback is the hell of a job,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Like these guys that get sort of pinhold
Speaker 1: his backups earlier in their career and they're like, wow,
Speaker 1: he can he can hold the clipboard and if he's
Speaker 1: got to finish out a game, you know, he knows
Speaker 1: how to hand it off. It did have any kind
Speaker 1: of impact on the other Like Chicago Bears went out
Speaker 1: and got the guy from the Bucks and they drafted
Speaker 1: somebody and all of a sudden, this guy gonna get
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars. But if he loses to games and
Speaker 1: wrote the rookie comes in, does does the backup this
Speaker 1: battle for backup quarterback does it have any kind of
Speaker 1: impact whatever with the rest of the players. No, No, Uh,
Speaker 1: you have noticed a guy who's doing well, you know,
Speaker 1: but unless you do and how to do and have
Speaker 1: the situation that Dak can't last year, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Dad had a perfect situation. Well, Cooper Rush is making
Speaker 1: his presence known. But I don't know what day we
Speaker 1: played the Giants, we'd never hit from him again, any
Speaker 1: I mean. I remember at one point in Tony Romo's
Speaker 1: career early on, there were so many comparisons of him
Speaker 1: to Brett Farve. And then they were playing Arizona in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and he broke his finger and
Speaker 1: I was shocked because I was, like, I thought he
Speaker 1: was like Brett Farve. I thought he would never come out,
Speaker 1: that he never missed a game, and then he's out
Speaker 1: three games, and just those three games alone where they
Speaker 1: had to roll out Brad Johnson, it basically kept him
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. And so you never know, any
Speaker 1: little thing could happen to where you don't have one
Speaker 1: of your most important players, you're most actually your very
Speaker 1: most important player, and it sort of unravels your season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I think it actually tells something
Speaker 1: that McFadden, out of all the guys he could have
Speaker 1: picked on the offense, that's the guy that came to mind.
Speaker 1: And because everybody else what's going with LC? True? Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody else? You talked to l you know, I was
Speaker 1: watching a couple of shows, you know, on TV, and
Speaker 1: W Scooter was completely out. It's got to be nice
Speaker 1: to be a backup quarterback for either the Patriots or
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys because you for for a month you
Speaker 1: the most talked about things, your brands getting out, superstar status.
Speaker 1: I mean Cooper Rush, I mean, you know, like everybody's
Speaker 1: time and Cooper Rush, you can come up with some
Speaker 1: names off of that right there. You know, Son, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't like talking about backups in that case.
Speaker 1: I talked about a backup guard or a backup defensive
Speaker 1: line because they can get in the game and really affected.
Speaker 1: But the experiences I've had since I've not played football
Speaker 1: backup did I have dealt with It's been a nightmare,
Speaker 1: especially here to Dallas Cowboys. He's you know, it's never
Speaker 1: been that in positive. The Colts didn't look very good
Speaker 1: on Saturday with Scott Tolzine in the game, didn't The
Speaker 1: offense was not as crisp. He's been around a little bit.
Speaker 1: So well, you know what, since you hate talking about
Speaker 1: backups so much, let's take a break and then let's
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Speaker 1: You have no keys to this place. You can't get
Speaker 1: in here unless we let you in. Well, I barely
Speaker 1: got in the parking lot today. Oh, I can imagine
Speaker 1: it looks like tomorrow might be more trouble because I'm
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Speaker 1: us a little bit about your Star magazine. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: you can still get it available out here at training camp.
Speaker 1: You'll get you ready for the season at scattering reports
Speaker 1: on most of the players. It's um fifty three roster
Speaker 1: cuts are coming soon. We'll give you our projections for that.
Speaker 1: It's got a nice big feature on Jalen Smith, who,
Speaker 1: as mcfat said, there's one of his surprise guys this year. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: we all do a great job with the magazine. I
Speaker 1: look forward to it every Wednesday than poor Gil out
Speaker 1: there at his mailbox every Wednesday. Did you get it
Speaker 1: here at training cam can get it at shop Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot com. Awesome. Well, one of us, we'll get into
Speaker 1: this a little bit later, but one of us had
Speaker 1: a very eventful end of the week or weekend this
Speaker 1: past week, and it wasn't me. But we'll get into
Speaker 1: who that is later. They're teasing that for you. Stick around.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a big deal. Let's talk about backups
Speaker 1: and talk about backups. Awesome teas that you had there.
Speaker 1: Thanks Josh, so, I just wanted to get your fee
Speaker 1: all of your guys feedback on who kind of stood
Speaker 1: out to you during the game. One or two guys.
Speaker 1: I think probably one of the most interesting position battles, Nate,
Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday, is going to be at
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You know, Bryce is looking really good. You know,
Speaker 1: he's actually holding onto the ball this year, um, showing
Speaker 1: some speed. Of course, Dez looks good and you know
Speaker 1: the catch that Dez made. The one thing that stood
Speaker 1: out to me is it looks like him and Dez
Speaker 1: have a chemistry they were working on last year. He
Speaker 1: threw the he under threw the ball through that back
Speaker 1: shoulder fade and that's the first time, you know, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't a short pass. It was what twenty thirty
Speaker 1: yards down the field. That to me was impressive, but
Speaker 1: thirty two. But I think to me, the most interesting
Speaker 1: thing is going to be between Andy Jones and NOELH.
Speaker 1: Brown because they both look good in camp now. Andy
Speaker 1: Jones is dealing with an injury. Noel Brown's a big guy. UM.
Speaker 1: I think Nick said it on their on their show
Speaker 1: earlier today, when when you're up in the press box
Speaker 1: and you're looking down, he's he looks like Dez, the
Speaker 1: way he's built, the way kind of he runs and everything.
Speaker 1: So I think seeing those two guys and see if
Speaker 1: they try to stash you know, one under both of
Speaker 1: them on the practice squad. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if they'll make it to the practice squad, but I
Speaker 1: think that's probably my my thing to watch most of
Speaker 1: this week going into into the game with Oakland. What
Speaker 1: about you guys? I think Andy Jones is ready man,
Speaker 1: but injury so he letting Norah Brown get even with
Speaker 1: him and probably leaving him if Nora wouldn't have had
Speaker 1: the big bobble, you know that. I mean that puts
Speaker 1: him ahead because when you did them with young guys,
Speaker 1: especially low round picks, free agents, when you're dealing with them,
Speaker 1: you're really looking at performance. What can you do? How
Speaker 1: you run your routes? Can't are you mentally ready for
Speaker 1: this game? Can you? No blown assignment? So you you know,
Speaker 1: it ain't like your first or second or third where
Speaker 1: you get the opportunity to make all the mistakes. When
Speaker 1: you're a little round, they're looking at your production and
Speaker 1: they got a projection of where they think you should
Speaker 1: bi or could be. But when you coming exceed that
Speaker 1: the way Noah has and it took Andy a year
Speaker 1: and they need to come home, That's just that's just
Speaker 1: what I think. Josh, Yeah, I mean, you're down to
Speaker 1: the last receiver spot, so you've you've got to go
Speaker 1: with somebody that can help you this year. If you
Speaker 1: have a couple of injuries and they have already got
Speaker 1: one with Ryan Switzer, I mean they you know, assume
Speaker 1: he's gonna be back and ready to go by the
Speaker 1: first game of season. But what's his role then if
Speaker 1: he hasn't had really a training camper a preseason. Um.
Speaker 1: For me, the ones that I've been I've been paying
Speaker 1: close attention to is offensive line. Um, what's Chaz Green
Speaker 1: doing when he gets in the game, what's uh, what's
Speaker 1: what's Byron Bell doing? The other tackle that started last
Speaker 1: year when Tyron was was hurt. I'm blanked on his Cleary,
Speaker 1: Emmitt Cleary. I mean, do you think you think do
Speaker 1: you think that's not gonna work out? It's gonna have
Speaker 1: to be Chads Green to be you know, tackle. I
Speaker 1: would not be very popular with some of the guys
Speaker 1: that I talked to, But uh, Emmitt Cleary, guys I'm
Speaker 1: naming Byron Bell, Emmy clearly Kadeem Edwards. These guys here
Speaker 1: are truly to me spot players, the best six guys,
Speaker 1: and that's I'm including Jonathan Cooper into the best six guys.
Speaker 1: I feel better with Looney and then that Cooper and
Speaker 1: Green be the other guys because I just don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with other guys. Now, Birdbank number sixty one, he's
Speaker 1: been playing with the second and third, a third and
Speaker 1: fourth unit, so he I don't know really how good
Speaker 1: he is, but he's what I'm looking at offensive line,
Speaker 1: especially a guy that's been in the league, a guy
Speaker 1: that's trying to come intoday. I look at your fight.
Speaker 1: What do you do when you get hid in the
Speaker 1: mouth for somebody to knock you on your behind? Do
Speaker 1: you come back two or three players in the row
Speaker 1: and not only show that your technique sound, but show
Speaker 1: some roughness back, some meeting ess back. And I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing this with a few of these guys. You know,
Speaker 1: is there any doubts? Now? With Collins, it seems like
Speaker 1: everybody's happier with what he where he is now. And
Speaker 1: you know, Hellman said yesterday, sit the offense down, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, do what you want, but don't sit down
Speaker 1: to the left guard and don't sit down the right
Speaker 1: tipe because hate him Kalil mac baby. So now he
Speaker 1: needs to see this speed. You know, this is not
Speaker 1: gonna make a break Collins, but he needs to see
Speaker 1: if Khalil Mack is healthy and they gonna play him
Speaker 1: my three series. Let him see what a raw dog
Speaker 1: looked like. He's special and uh, he needs to see that.
Speaker 1: You're going back to you, Tuck. You want to see
Speaker 1: a guy with fight. What if you've got a guy
Speaker 1: like apparently the Skipper guys kind of mean dude that's
Speaker 1: giving right on to the Yeah, but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the technique that the other guys do. So in that case,
Speaker 1: he's trying to catch up. From what I understand from
Speaker 1: coaches and what I've been hearing is he mentally there.
Speaker 1: He mentally knows what to do. But when you six
Speaker 1: teen and you kind of you know, he needs some ropes.
Speaker 1: He needs some ex ropes. He needed skills, rope he
Speaker 1: need you know what I'm saying. He got a lot
Speaker 1: of work it would be almost impossible to play that position.
Speaker 1: At six foot ten, guys can just get too low
Speaker 1: trying to stop a six two, three hundred pound guy.
Speaker 1: You've got guys coming around the edge on you, and
Speaker 1: that they like turned the corner and stay low. You
Speaker 1: remember how low DeMarcus would get when he's rushing the pass.
Speaker 1: But you can't answer that he can deal with that
Speaker 1: at a tackle. But I saw him yesterday at a
Speaker 1: guard and the football hit him in the back of
Speaker 1: the head out of the quarterback's hand like they did
Speaker 1: one on one pass rushing guard and the guy was
Speaker 1: so low on him to you know, he's just he couldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he couldn't do that because even when he went to
Speaker 1: punch down, he's he missed, you know. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: tackle is his position. But they try to play these
Speaker 1: guys everywhere. Uh they call it position flex, but position
Speaker 1: flex is no good for some people. Everybody ain't that guy.
Speaker 1: So he can feel the punt. He can feel the punt.
Speaker 1: He showed that at training camp. They had a drill
Speaker 1: where they they got to h yeah, they got to
Speaker 1: uh walk off and I think they got an extra
Speaker 1: hour of curfew if he could feel a punt from
Speaker 1: the jugs. Actually, I think Chris Chris Jones kicked it
Speaker 1: in about a forty yard punt and he was able
Speaker 1: to field it, So maybe that's a maybe that's a
Speaker 1: fallback position for it. Let's talk Nate. You were out
Speaker 1: there with me yesterday. We had a pretty special event
Speaker 1: that that doesn't happen very often around the organization yesterday
Speaker 1: where we had I think nineteen of twenty one Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor members that were either here or represented by
Speaker 1: a family member for the unveiling of the Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor Walk, presented by doctor Pepper. I hope I did
Speaker 1: that right. Yeah, but it's uh, it's out in the
Speaker 1: Plaus and it's really a cool deal. If any of
Speaker 1: you come tour the Star or come out here at
Speaker 1: any point, there's they they placed these twenty one monuments
Speaker 1: kind of through the streets of the Plaus out in
Speaker 1: front of um Ford Center. Um. Emmett was here, you know,
Speaker 1: Michael was here, Troy was here, Um Bob Lily was here,
Speaker 1: you know, said Bob Lily, all the guys, Charles Hayley
Speaker 1: and it was yes stallback and it was really a
Speaker 1: cool deal. And they have a mural that's kind of
Speaker 1: on both sides of one of the streets that that
Speaker 1: kind of depicts all the Ring of Honor members and
Speaker 1: kind of a portrait type deal. Um, and then they
Speaker 1: were all they all came in and kind of some
Speaker 1: of them hung out and went to practice and everything. Um.
Speaker 1: What did you think about that, Nate? Was that you know,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of those How many did you
Speaker 1: play with, like you blocked for door set? Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just great, just great individual people. Man love him
Speaker 1: to death. Community guys like like mister Jones said, they
Speaker 1: not only just good football players, they community guys. They
Speaker 1: always doing great things, are great people. You see them
Speaker 1: Periodrohy on TV. You know Quiet's cat Roger Stoppa got
Speaker 1: to be one of the richest men in the world.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, man, he is in great shape.
Speaker 1: He's seventy five years old, and I mean he's in
Speaker 1: great shape, Like he looks like he could almost go
Speaker 1: out there. And I got a Ring of Honor question
Speaker 1: for you. You think Jimmy should be in venture? I
Speaker 1: hope he is, man, I hope he is. Because they
Speaker 1: say it's two ways you can get into either supposed
Speaker 1: to ring on or the Hall of Fame. Let's have
Speaker 1: an immediate impact on the league for a short period
Speaker 1: of time, I mean a gigantic impact. All you can
Speaker 1: do it through a long period of time being consistent
Speaker 1: on the high level. Terrell Davis got in five year career,
Speaker 1: two super bowls, Jimmy had a five year career, two
Speaker 1: super bowls. He built y'all's team. Whatever credit got to missus,
Speaker 1: Jones gotta find it. But then his uh, one of
Speaker 1: his decisions is to put him in that Ring of Honor,
Speaker 1: and then they really will have some heavy discussions then,
Speaker 1: because not only will you have players fight for him,
Speaker 1: you will have mister Jones fight for him. You have
Speaker 1: a whole organization behind you. So that'll put some our
Speaker 1: local media guys behind him. Is there anybody else that's
Speaker 1: not in the Ring of Honor that you think should
Speaker 1: be in? No, it's an exclusive deal, and I think
Speaker 1: the Jones have done a great job. And who they
Speaker 1: choose to put in there and what and what and
Speaker 1: what their meaning is. I don't know their criteria or
Speaker 1: how you get in there or what you need to
Speaker 1: do besides being a great player, but I think there
Speaker 1: was the first guys miss Lily was the first guy
Speaker 1: ever to be put into a Ring of Honor, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys the first one to ever have a Ring
Speaker 1: of honor. So I'd like to see Harvey Martin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a number sixty one up there.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a whole bunch of guys. But
Speaker 1: you know what I tell people like this here, you
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. You just you let the process
Speaker 1: go through. And I know I would like to see
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith in there. I would like to see Zack
Speaker 1: Martin in there. And the people said, well, why is that.
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully they've won some Super Bowls. See, I'm
Speaker 1: a big Cowboy fan, and people don't people like you. Know,
Speaker 1: jay Novich asked me yesterday, what's your ring of honor?
Speaker 1: I said, to be ten years old, watch the Cowboys
Speaker 1: win in seventy one out of seventy two Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: then go to college in seventy nine eighty and my
Speaker 1: best friend Tony Hayes as a Cowboy fan. We sit
Speaker 1: back on his bed in Taalas for Florida. I said,
Speaker 1: one day, man, we're gonna play for them. Then for
Speaker 1: me to be playing for the Cowboys career overweight and
Speaker 1: I'm still dealing with the Dallas Cowboys. I'm in the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. Bro America's you too, missus, John. That
Speaker 1: is awesome. Yeah, that's so cool. So, speaking of cool,
Speaker 1: as we were breaking camp last week, one of the
Speaker 1: four of us got engaged on vacation. Kurt got engaged
Speaker 1: no long ago? Was it you? Nate? Did you get
Speaker 1: engaged this? Nah? Man? Nah? Nah nah. But I've been
Speaker 1: married twice, so engagement being goal and I didn't get engaged,
Speaker 1: So that only leaves one person in this room. I mean, Daddy,
Speaker 1: I have trouble. But now Jeff Sullivan's not here today, Josh,
Speaker 1: did you well, you didn't do Douglas. He's not in
Speaker 1: this room. He wants to be in this room, but
Speaker 1: he's not in this room. Douglas. I don't know how
Speaker 1: badly I really want to be in that room. I
Speaker 1: am married, so it couldn't have been me. Yeah. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I did get engaged colation. I
Speaker 1: had a boy, Josh. I want to apologize to all
Speaker 1: of our female listener Rachel, sorry, all of them, all
Speaker 1: one of them. Sorry. Sorry, off the market, You're not
Speaker 1: You're no Tony Romo so she's not interested in you,
Speaker 1: you know, speaking of I haven't heard from Rachel in
Speaker 1: a while since we changed the format. I wonder if
Speaker 1: she bailed on the show when you're from her now,
Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about your vacation. We
Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes here vacation and the big event.
Speaker 1: How did all this go down? Where'd you go? And
Speaker 1: had a vacation to the Central American nation of Costa Rica,
Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful and happy places on earth,
Speaker 1: and did some fishing and seafood eating and imperial drinking.
Speaker 1: And finally the last day we had like a jungle
Speaker 1: rainforest tour thing that takes you down and see some waterfalls.
Speaker 1: And so when we got to the biggest waterfall, I
Speaker 1: um did that thing you do and got down on
Speaker 1: one knee and proposed marriage to a young lady. Oh man,
Speaker 1: here's a big Cowboys fan, big Jason Witten fan. Really,
Speaker 1: so now when I watched the Cowboys, I have to
Speaker 1: root for them because she's there, or else I'll get
Speaker 1: or else I'll get in trouble level. So is this
Speaker 1: a fairly This is a fairly new relationship, right, Not
Speaker 1: that new, It's been over a year. Yeah, he's been
Speaker 1: talking about this relationship for quite thought it was I
Speaker 1: thought it was like right out a year. So that's
Speaker 1: things move pretty quick over there with you, Josh, he
Speaker 1: knew what he wanted. I guess. Yes, you know, when
Speaker 1: you meet the one you know? Huh uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't didn't take that long, right, So I saw
Speaker 1: a picture on social media and your hair was sopping wet.
Speaker 1: Had you fallen in the pool before you propose? Is
Speaker 1: that the water? Did you kneel in the water? Well? There?
Speaker 1: That was that picture was taken later, the one where
Speaker 1: were the one where the hair looks pristine? Uh? Like mine? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like less like yours or like mine. Got a lot
Speaker 1: going on there. I got a new hair do and
Speaker 1: a new beard. It's a new season, knew me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look good. Are you getting engaged? Uh? That nineteen
Speaker 1: year old that you're dating? Never and I haven't been
Speaker 1: dating anyone for a year, Josh, about the same time
Speaker 1: it took you to get married. Well, it'll be a
Speaker 1: long engagement, so we'll give her, We'll give time to
Speaker 1: change our mind. Yeah, she's she's the one that decided
Speaker 1: to be longer. Okay, So before you went to Costa Rica.
Speaker 1: Were you up to date on your vaccinations and whatnot? No, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get any shots from
Speaker 1: malaria or anything else. But I'm here to report that
Speaker 1: I've been feeling kind of sick the last thrade that
Speaker 1: we're all going got that zekea virus. No, I'm worried
Speaker 1: that it's ding gay fever. Oh that's so you have
Speaker 1: not had it diagnosed by a professional, you know your
Speaker 1: The CDC website says not not to the contagious. No,
Speaker 1: not if it's ding gay. If it's something else, then
Speaker 1: you might be in t Do you have it like
Speaker 1: in your body the rest of your life? If it's
Speaker 1: dan gay, I don't know. Do you pass it on
Speaker 1: to your kids? I don't know. The CDC, though, says, uh,
Speaker 1: only if I start to throw up, should I see
Speaker 1: a doctor? Really, I'll let you know. All right. Well,
Speaker 1: congratulations John went to the event. I mean, wow, it's
Speaker 1: a good thing I'm not neutered. Yeah, congratulated. She listened
Speaker 1: to the show she has been known to She when
Speaker 1: we first started dating, she thought that was really cool
Speaker 1: and then she quit caring. Yeah, that world news. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's gonna tell you how to relationship go cools already
Speaker 1: already tired to hear the talk. What's your first name? Wow?
Speaker 1: What Douglas? What's your fiance's first name? Lauren? Congratulations, Lauren, congratulations, Lauren,
Speaker 1: You're stuck with him the rest of your life. Only
Speaker 1: have him an hour a day of the two years
Speaker 1: with Seldon. Well, thank you guys for tuning in. This
Speaker 1: has been awesome our first day back. We'll be back
Speaker 1: tomorrow at twelve thirty with Roy Smith. Thursday, I believe
Speaker 1: is up in the air, and as is Friday. I believe.
Speaker 1: Let you get Dak. I don't have that kind of
Speaker 1: pool man. He's he's just Friday. They're not available on Thursday.
Speaker 1: We we we you say, we don't know, depending on
Speaker 1: what yeah, they think. The media schedule in the locker
Speaker 1: rooms to be determined, so to figure out if we
Speaker 1: can getting guys on and what time we're gonna go. So, well,
Speaker 1: how about Zeco. We'll be back tomorrow at twelve thirty.
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