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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast. This

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Speaker 1: is episode two six'. THREE i am your, Host Brad,

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Speaker 1: roland coming to you on A sunday, Evening september the,

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Speaker 1: seventh And i'll be join in just a few. Moments

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Speaker 1: a good friend of the podcast a special guest on today's.

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Speaker 1: Show his name Is grant. McCauley grant is A braves

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Speaker 1: insider for nine two nine in The game as well

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Speaker 1: as The from The diamond. Podcast he does a fantastic

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Speaker 1: job covering The braves all year. Round grant's a friend

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Speaker 1: of the show that'll be with me in a. Moment

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Speaker 1: first of some nuts and bolts and maybe a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a rant coming. Up BUT i do encourage

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Speaker 1: you if this is your first time on the. Podcast

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Speaker 1: usually it is a couple of. Us there are four

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Speaker 1: hosts Of Hammer, territory, Myself Scott, Coleman Sean, Coleman Stephen.

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Speaker 1: Tolbert usually it is a combination of two of us

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Speaker 1: or three of, us but today it's just me and

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Speaker 1: then it'll Be grant in a. Second but please subscribe

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Speaker 1: To Hammer territory anywhere you get your, Podcasts, Apple. Spotify

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Speaker 1: you were watching, it tell your friends about the. Show

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Speaker 1: we definitely appreciate everyone's sticking with us through basically what

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Speaker 1: has been the season from hell for The, braves and

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Speaker 1: that is still going on right. Now they have now

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Speaker 1: lost three consecutive. Series they were absolutely blasted the last

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Speaker 1: two days by The Seattle. Mariners not much on the

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Speaker 1: positive side to discuss from this weekend in, particular couple of,

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Speaker 1: things Maybe Matt olsen in his longest home run the,

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Speaker 1: season a four hundred and fifty nine foot absolute tank

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Speaker 1: of a. Blast Jason Profi homer, again he's still been pretty.

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Speaker 1: Good of, Course Chris sale has been just absolutely lights

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Speaker 1: out for a long time. Now not a lot else going,

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Speaker 1: on But sale now has a one point two SIX

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Speaker 1: era in his last twelve. Starts just ludicrous stuff From Chris.

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Speaker 1: Sale but, look The braves allowed eighteen runs On, sunday eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Runs that's the second time and about ten days that

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Speaker 1: they've allowed eighteen runs or, more because they allowed nineteen

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Speaker 1: runs about ten days ago to The. Phillies in the

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Speaker 1: last fifty five, years dating back in nineteen, seventy The

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Speaker 1: braves have allowed eighteen runs are more only fifteen times

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Speaker 1: in fifty five. Years two of those fifteen have been

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Speaker 1: in the last ten. Days they have not allowed eighteen

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Speaker 1: runs in a game since twenty. Fifteen before, then so

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Speaker 1: they went basically ten years without allowing eighteen runs or,

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Speaker 1: more and they did it twice in ten. Days and,

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Speaker 1: then of course speaks to the, season of, course but

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Speaker 1: also to the state of the pitching staff right. Now

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Speaker 1: while some of the bullpen guys have been good, Lately

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Speaker 1: not very. Good and then the lack of competitiveness right

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Speaker 1: now with where The raves, are their lack of incentive

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Speaker 1: extra break or, whatever because the games don't matter right.

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Speaker 1: Now all that, said it was a disaster the last two.

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Speaker 1: Days after a win Against seattle On, friday it's been

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Speaker 1: rough and The braves just lost two games in two

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Speaker 1: days by a total score of twenty eight to. Four

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Speaker 1: twenty eight to. Four that is obviously pretty dire on

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Speaker 1: the news. Front Cal quantrell got released by The braves

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Speaker 1: a few days. Ago that was the end of a

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Speaker 1: saga that was covered at nauseum on this, show but

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Speaker 1: that's not officially over since our last episode on the.

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Speaker 1: Podcast and, also The braves claimed twenty eight year old

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Speaker 1: Reliever Alexis diaz off of waivers from The dodgers On.

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Speaker 1: Sunday he was legitimately good in twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three with The, reds even been An All

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five across two different. Teams but The braves

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Speaker 1: fans to take another free shot at a potential reliever

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Speaker 1: that can fix. Them kind of in the, mold not

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Speaker 1: with The Tyler kinley By low you, Know, scoop a

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Speaker 1: guy who has a chance to make the team next,

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Speaker 1: year be around for a, while we'll. See, also he

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Speaker 1: and we'll see how that. Goes, now BEFORE i bring In,

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Speaker 1: GRANT i did not want to trouble Him grant as

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Speaker 1: a respected, Reporter he's in the clubhouse regularly with The,

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Speaker 1: braves AND i wanted to deliver A i would, say

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Speaker 1: Topic AND i want to preface this by saying something

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Speaker 1: very important THAT i think would probably be obvious if

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Speaker 1: people misinterpreting my thoughts and the thoughts of others on social.

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Speaker 1: MEDIA i am well aware that this season twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five is effectively over for The. Braves it's been over

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Speaker 1: for a. WHILE i get that you're playing out the.

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Speaker 1: String you're looking for things to talk about for next.

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Speaker 1: Year it's all about informing the, future not the. Present

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Speaker 1: and Nothing i'm going to say is ignoring. THAT i

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Speaker 1: promise YOU i understand that the games don't, matter and

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Speaker 1: that it's not Why i'm bothered by. This be very

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Speaker 1: clear about. That at the same, time nothing drives me

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Speaker 1: crazier as the person who founded this podcast in another

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Speaker 1: form almost ten years. Ago. Now nothing grives me crazier

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Speaker 1: the decisions that make no sense to me and. Others

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Speaker 1: and this is one of those. Things and that is

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Speaker 1: that Ron nkunya hit sixth in the lineup On saturday

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Speaker 1: and then hit seventh in the lineup On. Sunday now,

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Speaker 1: AGAIN i am not telling you that batting order matters that.

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Speaker 1: Much it. Doesn't i'm not telling you THAT i am

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Speaker 1: matter AND i get. That but for, Context Ronald Acun

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Speaker 1: junior has not hit below fourth in the lineup any

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Speaker 1: time since twenty. Eighteen that is the norm for a superstar.

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Speaker 1: Player but when asked about the decision On, Saturday Brian

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Speaker 1: sicker said that he quote just wanted to change the

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Speaker 1: point end. Quote that's all fine and, good except that

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Speaker 1: that's not really. True this does not happen with superstar,

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Speaker 1: players nor should. It, also the weird, Thing, ronald it's been,

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Speaker 1: bad as we'll come back to in a. Second he

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Speaker 1: reached base in half of his play. Appearances On, saturday batting,

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Speaker 1: six he walked twice in four play, appearances which is good,

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Speaker 1: Obviously then he moved down a spot On. Sunday. Curious now,

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Speaker 1: AGAIN i get. It there is a school of thought

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Speaker 1: Says wellcune is not playing, well so he should move

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Speaker 1: me it should matter to you as, well his track

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Speaker 1: record all those. Things, ALSO i would generally avoid small

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Speaker 1: sample size. Sport but, Yes ronald is actually having a bad.

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Speaker 1: Stretch he had a terrible eight, game nine game stretch

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Speaker 1: last week and a half or. So he has not

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Speaker 1: been very good overall since returning from the injury in Mid.

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Speaker 1: AUGUST i am granting, That i'm not arguing with. It

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely, true but it's also quite literally eighty eight

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Speaker 1: three weeks. Ago for, reference in the entire month Of

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Speaker 1: we're talking about For Ronald Quen. Junior and the supposed

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Speaker 1: apparent freak out about this slump that he's. Having this

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Speaker 1: is less than a month of results for a player

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Speaker 1: with a superstar record of performance in his. Prime also

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Speaker 1: for the, season he has a one forty SEVEN wrc

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Speaker 1: he has Been RONALD. A Cuen. Jr this, season again

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Speaker 1: not playing more. RECENTLY i get that it's his worst

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Speaker 1: slump in a long. TIME i get that that does

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Speaker 1: not mean you move the best player in your team

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Speaker 1: games don't. Matter for more, Evidence Ronic cunyon is eighth

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Speaker 1: In Major League baseball IN wrc plus since the moment

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Speaker 1: player not a great. Hitter that's not. True Ronal Cue

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Speaker 1: junior is a great, hitter is he the best hitter in.

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Speaker 1: Baseball no is he to a top ten hit in. Baseball,

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Speaker 1: yes these are the guys who have a BETTER wrc,

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Speaker 1: Plate there are seven guys who have been better than

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Speaker 1: him cumulatively since twenty. Eighteen Aaron, Judge Jordan, Alvarez Mike,

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Speaker 1: It and by the, way none of those guys drop

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Speaker 1: bracep other guys who have been starlevel. Players no one

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Speaker 1: who everyone KNOWS i, LOVE i Love, Middelson he's never

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Speaker 1: Braves Aaron, judge who is a better here Than RONNIE

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Speaker 1: i understand that since twenty, seventeen has never hit below

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Speaker 1: like fourth and fifth in the. Lineup and that's before

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Speaker 1: he was Actually Aaron. Judge he wasn't Actually Aaron. Judge

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Speaker 1: Then Mookie. Betts last time he hit this six or

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Speaker 1: lower in the order twenty fi. Fifteen Freddy freeman has

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Speaker 1: Manager Freddy freeman never ever ever felt anything like this

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Speaker 1: i could go on and, on AND i promise you

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Speaker 1: have more of. These i'll. Stop but there's just no

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Speaker 1: reason for. This and AGAIN i am not saying this

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Speaker 1: impacts anything for this year results. Wise it could not

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Speaker 1: a process failure for no. Reason AND i get. STEP

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Speaker 1: i believe that it's like gonna shaken up or. Whatever

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Speaker 1: that's not what you do to established superstar. Players AND

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Speaker 1: PROMISE i had three different people who are in the,

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Speaker 3: You i'm doing. WELL i haven't even gotten a chance

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk. About we all know the deal.

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Speaker 1: Experience where are you at on this thing in Early?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and one of the many reasons why it's great

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Speaker 2: Absolutely can you want some accountability for the? Results?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely can you want change and? Improvement and there's the other.

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Speaker 3: based on what the perceived, move food is or the

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00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 3: results dictate the, mood and vice. Versa it really depends

426
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 3: on which angle you come. From but these are professionals

427
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 3: who are, competitive but that doesn't mean it's always going

428
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 3: to go their way and the other the opposing picture

429
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: has to say in, it the opposing team has to

430
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 3: say in it sometimes it ain't your. Year AND i

431
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: think that we can all sit here at this point

432
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 3: in the first week Of september and recognize and probably

433
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: recognize for a while it ain't The braves. Year But

434
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: i'd still think that there is an, optimism guarded or

435
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 3: otherwise that they are going, to with a lot of

436
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: the cast of characters that we, know figure out a

437
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: way moving into twenty twenty six to get back to

438
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: what they're. Doing they're going to have to have some

439
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 3: health go, Right they're going to have to make some.

440
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: TRANSACTIONS i believe that will help energize this lineup and

441
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 3: maybe to cover for some areas and improve some areas

442
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: that haven't been able to perform up to the standard

443
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 3: that they need to to be the club that they

444
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 3: want to. Be but, NO i, MEAN i don't think it's,

445
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: crazy AND i understand the. Frustration don't get me. WRONG i, mean,

446
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 3: sure nobody enjoys. Losing they're not enjoying. Losing it's not

447
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 3: a good. Time like nobody wants to have to have

448
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: that conversation About, okay well we thought you guys were

449
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: going to be. Good why aren't you? GOOD i, mean

450
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: who has an answer for? That usually, Nobody and whether

451
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: it's in my, job your, job or their, job it's

452
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: not fun to know that you're not performing to the

453
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 3: level that you expected to and the level that, ULTIMATELY i,

454
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 3: mean nobody's. WELL i guess maybe some people might be

455
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 3: rooting for you or for me to have a good

456
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: day or a good, broadcast or write a good article or.

457
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: Whatever but obviously the stakes are a lot higher for these,

458
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: guys and commensurate with what they're being. Paid but BEFORE

459
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 3: i get completely lost in a philosophical man probably leads us,

460
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 3: NOWHERE i can't tell you that they do care and

461
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 3: that the overall attitude, Is, look we've got to come

462
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: in today and try to win a baseball, game and

463
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: then we're going to come in tomorrow and try to

464
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 3: win another baseball. Game i've heard that, from you, know

465
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: guys that have been here all, season guys that have

466
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: been here for, Years guys that have been managing or

467
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 3: coaching in the organization for forty nine, years Or Hassan

468
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 3: kim who's been here for a week and was, asked,

469
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: okay well down the, stretch even though it's the last

470
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 3: year are you looking forward to ruin the season for

471
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: some other teams, Potentially and he, said you, know, no

472
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: we're not necessarily focused on. That we've got an opportunity

473
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 3: to win a game every day and that's what we're

474
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: going to go try to. Do so as, boring as,

475
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: cliche as cookie cutter or whatever as it, is that's

476
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: still what they're looking to. Do and it may not

477
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,920
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478
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479
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,879
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480
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,199
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481
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Speaker 1: Foul you mentioned Huss On kim AND i wanted to

506
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: ask you about. Him, anyways we'll do that, now and

507
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: they're not going to talk about obviously he's the new.

508
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: Guy it's been a week. Now it's been a whole,

509
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: Week grant since he was brought, in so it feels

510
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: like it's just. YESTERDAY i wanted to ask. You it's

511
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: not too late to do. THIS i think what you

512
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: thought about the process behind, it because it was one

513
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: of those VERY i mean it's a negative, way but

514
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: it was a strange. Transaction no one knew he was.

515
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: Available it's a guy we kind of. FLOATED i know

516
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: you probably did as. Well this winter is a potential.

517
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: Target it didn't. Happen now that we know he's here

518
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: at least for the rest of the, season and that's

519
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: all they. KNOW i, mean it's a player option that

520
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: he can knock out if he wants. To but what

521
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: did you think of that whole? Thing and obviously he

522
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: started out fairly well five or seventeen this week with

523
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: a homer, Like he's looked, good looked the part to

524
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: what you hope he would be after some. Injuries but,

525
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: uh going back a week and obviously what you've, seen,

526
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: now what did you make of that whole? Thing because

527
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: it was obviously not what you would have expected to

528
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: happen On september, First.

529
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: No and WHEN i wrote about it this, week it

530
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: was more of a you don't typically see a club

531
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: in the position that The braves are in looking to

532
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: add players as you move into the month Of. September,

533
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: typically who you've got is who you've. Got obviously the

534
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: winter will afford you some. Opportunities the trade deadline didn't

535
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: really change much as far as personnel is concerned for The.

536
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: Braves whether that was a good thing or a bad thing,

537
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: ultimately who. Knows BUT i don't think that they were

538
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: going to get a whole lot for anything that they were.

539
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: Shopping But alex did, say and this was the question

540
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: THAT i asked him in, particular which, was you, know

541
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 3: when you look at this, winner how important is? It

542
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: and you, know how are you approaching? It and he

543
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: brought up the fact, that, look we pursued some different

544
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: things of the deadline that even knowing where we, were

545
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: or more, importantly maybe where they're not this, year that

546
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: could help them beyond twenty twenty. Five Hat Song kim

547
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 3: sounds like a discussion that could have been had around

548
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: that time that then you got Into september that The

549
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: rays basically, said, look you, know we can't cut, him

550
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 3: he's got a player, option but we can put him

551
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: on waivers and if somebody just wants to take him

552
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: off our, hands we can do. That so it kind

553
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: of felt like a throwback move because now that the

554
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: waiver deals are no longer a thing and you can't

555
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: do that kind of stuff. Anymore you, know you got

556
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: to trade the one trade deadline and that's. IT i

557
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: just felt like it was in outside the, box but

558
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: a calculated risk and quite possibly something that could at

559
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: least provide The braves with some upside At shortstop for

560
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: the first. Time AND i feel, like you know what

561
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: three SEASONS i, mean all respect To Orlando arcia in

562
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, three he was perfectly. Fine the last two

563
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 3: years have been a black. Hole, Offensively Nick allen has

564
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: been a tremendous. DEFENDER i don't know THAT i can

565
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: say that enough that he has been a net positive,

566
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: there but you know what he is and you know

567
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: what he's. Not and then There's Hassan kim who does

568
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: a little bit of both and does it extremely. Well

569
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: he can run the, bases he does all kinds of.

570
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: Stuff so if he does decide that he wants to

571
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: be here next, year that's a box you can check

572
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: for the winter where it's kind Of bobashet or nothing

573
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: is what the shortstop market looks like to me unless

574
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: you want to go make a trade and get a

575
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: guy like A Hassan. Kim and SO i think they

576
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: just kind of got to jump on. That and so

577
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: that was my read on where The braves came, from

578
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: kind of out of left field or out of nowhere

579
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: to claim a player that you wouldn't necessarily think is

580
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: going to help out this year because he's. Not but

581
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: they wanted to sell him On. Atlanta that was the

582
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: other point That alex made, Was, hey we get him

583
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: under our roof here to see the, team to see the,

584
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: city and kind of get them in the mindset, of,

585
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: hey if we're going to pursue you in free agency,

586
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: anyway maybe this is like an. Orientation that was my

587
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: read on all of. That AND i think That Hassan

588
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: kim is exactly the kind of move That alex was

589
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: talking about back on the thirty first Of july when

590
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: not really much. Happened but now you can kind of

591
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: consider this a fallout of that if you, will for.

592
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: Sure AND i think it is interesting in his nuance you.

593
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: Brought you bring up The bobachhett thing we've always says

594
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: on the, show like it's so hard to get, shortstops

595
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: like teams if they have, one they don't want to

596
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: trade you. One like IT'S i, know it's easy to,

597
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: PLAY i mean we all do, it hot stove, fantasy.

598
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: Whatever it's really hard to get a guy who you

599
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: want that other teams are willing to let go and

600
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: if they hit for. Agency you, know you have to

601
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: look at front The Nasby. Swanson if you hit free,

602
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: agency you get paid a pile of, money and probably

603
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: a pile of money that's too much by the end

604
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: of the. Contract that's kind of the nature of free

605
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: agency at that. Level Boba schett good, player not a

606
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: great defender at. Shortstop alex at least in my, experience

607
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: tends to lean to defense at. SHORTSTOP i mean that's

608
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of in the history of what he's done with The.

609
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: Braves so you look at all, that you get kind

610
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: of a it's not a free. Shot there's some risk

611
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: to it. Too we've all discussed like that player actually

612
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: just looming out. There he can knop out of, it

613
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: even if he has an okay end of the, Season

614
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: like there's no guarantees even back on that. Contract, yeah

615
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: but to your, point like you you're taking a, real

616
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: a real chance at a start at a quality starting

617
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: shortstop in a way that's like very resourceful as maybe

618
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: the Word i'll Use. Alex's alex is a creative. Executive

619
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to do some interesting things that you're

620
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: not seeing. COMING i, mean go back to CHRISALE i

621
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: THOUGHT i was the most prominent, Example like who Had

622
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 1: Chris sale on the board that? Winner? Nobody it was like,

623
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: Nobody and that obviously worked out as good as they

624
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: could possibly. Go so they're not all gonna go that.

625
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: Way but he's not afraid to go in some strange,

626
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: places and this is this is a strange. Place but

627
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: also you go back seven eight months, ago grant if

628
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: The braves had Saihas On kem had been, like, okay

629
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: sure that makes.

630
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 3: Sense, yeah, no it certainly would. Have BUT i think

631
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: that and this is the case for his entire, market

632
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: was you're gonna miss half the year with the shoulder.

633
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: Issue where are you're gonna be the second half of the.

634
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: Year and clearly he played what twenty four to twenty

635
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: five games whatever it was with The rays for thirteen million,

636
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: dollars and The braves will take on the final two of.

637
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: That but The rays typically don't spend, eleven, twelve thirteen

638
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: million dollars or twenty nine million dollars on pieces that

639
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: they don't see fitting for. Them that's not an indictment

640
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: On Hassan. KIM i think that their shortstop situation behind

641
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: him is developing in a, way maybe faster than they

642
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: expected it, to so they decided to. Pivot and by,

643
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: pivoting they're, creative they're, resourceful they're looking to move that

644
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: money the braves as we. KNOW i don't know if

645
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: you've heard about this or, not BUT i believe they've

646
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: reset the luxury, tax, which whether or not you looked

647
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: at that as a deterrent to making, MOVES i don't.

648
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: NECESSARILY i feel like there is some double speak of you,

649
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: know we expected to spend, more we didn't spend. More

650
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: how do you reconcile all of that when you publicly

651
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: say payroll has gone up every. Year now it doesn't

652
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: go up this, year and we don't have to spend

653
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: a ton of time on. This but, LOOK i understand

654
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: the frustration of BECAUSE i, mean we're the ones who

655
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: asked the questions in a lot of, cases The royal

656
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: we and the, media which certainly can make some people,

657
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: happy and we don't always make everybody, happy but we

658
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: are trying to do our jobs and ask questions and

659
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: get answers to. It but you can't make them say

660
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: what you want them to say if they're not going

661
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: to tell you, that and you can't just keep asking

662
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: them until they Break this is not asking your parent

663
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: for cookies until they finally break. Down their, fine you

664
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: can have. Them it just doesn't work that. Way so,

665
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: anyway with that rant out out of my, system you,

666
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: KNOW i do feel like that there was a certain

667
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: degree of, expectation maybe even For alex at the start

668
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: of The winner last, year and it just didn't develop that.

669
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: Way AND i think there were some moves they would

670
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: have made that they couldn't and didn't make because other

671
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: teams swooped in and made those. Moves then they made

672
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: the profile move at the end to, say, hey well

673
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: we got into something and it's working. Now but clearly

674
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: an eighty game suspension wasn't anything you had on Your bengo.

675
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: Car but to go all the way back To Hasan

676
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 3: kim if he had been, HEALTHY i would have been

677
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: interested to see how aggressive The braze were in trying

678
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: to sign. HIM i also would probably freely admit that,

679
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: three four or five other clubs could have gotten in

680
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: that mix and the next thing you, know he's getting

681
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty million dollars or. Whatever he's a

682
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: little bit older than obviously a dance By swanson or

683
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: A Trevor story or A Hobby baiaz or A Corey

684
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: seeger Or Marcus simi and all these middle infielders have

685
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: got huge. Contracts he may not have gotten one of,

686
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: those BUT i think he would have put together a

687
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: pretty large deal regardless of how it all played. Out so,

688
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: yeah it's a guy that made sense for The braves

689
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: previous and they found a way to get him. In

690
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: now they're hoping that he, decides, HEY i want to

691
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: stick around here and kind of explore this option at

692
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: least for a, year both figuratively and.

693
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: Literally, yes for.

694
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Sure AND i THINK i said this once, before but

695
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: he was a guy some of those mainstream, projections whether

696
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: IT'S mlb trade rumors or, fangrafts hadn't been like that

697
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year range early in the winter last.

698
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: Year and that's that's the kind of player he. Is

699
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: as long as he get previous, healthy he's that level of.

700
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Players so it's a lot of money that they would

701
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: owe him potentially next. Year and when you do, this

702
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: you got to be able to be willing and prepared

703
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: to pay him that money because he obviously can opt into.

704
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: It but he's that kind of. Player this is the

705
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: guy who averaged three and a Half fangrafts war per

706
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: season for three. Years, like that's well above the production

707
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: that you would need to justify the contract that he

708
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: would be on potentially for next year and also on

709
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: YOUR i won't go back to the to the mini

710
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: rat you just, did BUT i ALWAYS i always find

711
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: it funny that people Want alex and really any. Executive you,

712
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: KNOW i covered, basketball similar thing. There executives are never

713
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: gonna throw their own bosses under the bus on spending

714
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: because think about just think about it, logically if you

715
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: were in a, meeting would you throw your own boss

716
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: under the bus knowing that they're gonna hear you throw

717
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: them under the. Bus, like that's not how that, works,

718
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: Right like If alex thought there was a payroll number

719
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: and it was came in lower than what he, thought

720
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: he would not come out and, say you know What terry,

721
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: SAID i get less. Money, now that's not what he would.

722
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Say it's just, no it's very logical if you think

723
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: about it that. Way, Sorry i'm not gonna try to

724
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: get anybody in. Trouble it's just what it.

725
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Is AND i understand that and, again we don't have

726
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: to go over this.

727
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: Ground and, look the expectation that folks have for The

728
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: braves should be sky high because The braves are an

729
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: organization that was built to win right now and that's

730
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: what people should be. Expecting it's a lot of things

731
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: have gone wrong this, year somehow more so than went

732
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: wrong last, year WHICH i really didn't think was. Possible

733
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: but yet here we are In. September BUT i will say,

734
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: this And i'm prepared, to you, know carry the burden

735
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: of this. Prediction but they should be spending money this.

736
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: Offseason they should have money to, spend both from the

737
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: avoidance of having to worry about the heightened luxury tax

738
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: because they have reset, that but also they have money

739
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: coming off the. Books putting has on kim in and

740
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: say the place of Where Marcelo zunas sixteen million dollars

741
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: was this year might be kind of part of the

742
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: calculus that they're looking. At but what other moves could there,

743
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: Be what other trades could there? Be BECAUSE i think

744
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: that The braves have shown in the past they can

745
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: get really, creative and The Chris sale one's a great

746
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: example of. IT i, mean it may not be a

747
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: guy who wins to say young the next, year but

748
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: you know who else didn't Have Chris sale on the

749
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: trade block when he went into The winner that particular,

750
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: year year before Last Chris, sale he wasn't expecting to go.

751
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: Anywhere he didn't think anybody's going to call The Red

752
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: sox and, say you know what we need Is Chris.

753
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: Sale because he knew what he'd been through the previous

754
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: four or five. Years he wasn't expecting to go. Anywhere

755
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: but sometimes you're just able to find that value and

756
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: sometimes it pays. Off other, times you, know it can

757
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: be a little bit more. Difficult it's a different, story

758
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: different outcome at different. Times but, again before we get

759
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: lost into all of, THIS i just feel like there's

760
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: a lot riding on this.

761
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: WINNER i think.

762
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: It's fair to say that The braves have a lot

763
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: of questions to answer. Internally i've said this And i'll

764
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: continue to say. It everything needs to be out on

765
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 3: the table to figure. Out and that don't mean like trade,

766
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: everyone fire everyone on the. TABLE i mean they need

767
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 3: to discuss every aspect of the team and say how

768
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: are we getting the best out of this? Aspect if

769
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: they figure it, out move on to the next. One

770
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: if you can bring somebody, in do. It if you

771
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 3: have a move that makes, sense you, know consider.

772
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: It do.

773
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: It if there are multiple different options out, there try

774
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: to find the best one and move. Forward but it's

775
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: simply not going to BE i can't imagine a world

776
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: where they're just, like, yeah what we've got in house is.

777
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: Fine we're just going to move, forward BECAUSE i think

778
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: they learned this year that it can be very, difficult

779
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 3: even if you've got a great, roster to get everything

780
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: out of it that you need, to because once you

781
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: play the, games even the best laid plan can go.

782
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: Sideways and they have.

783
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Purposely to not ask you about this at the beginning

784
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: of our, conversation but a couple of guys are struggling

785
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: AND i wanted to ask you about what you think of,

786
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: it the most prominent Being Ronald. ACUNYA i warned you about.

787
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: This it's a little bit of a rant BEFORE i

788
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: brought you, in WHICH i won't make you listen to

789
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: or rehash it. All i'm gonna Let grant talk about it.

790
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Independently he did not hear. It he Didn't he doesn't

791
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: know WHAT i. Said BUT i was not a huge

792
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: fan of them sliding him down the lap of six

793
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: or seventh this, weekend but beyond, that and you can

794
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: wait on on that if you want. To you, know

795
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: since he came back from, injury he's not been. Himself

796
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: he just hasn't been very. Good it's only eighty eight

797
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: account it's eighty eight played. Appearances that's he came. Back

798
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: that isn't that. Many, grant it's not that. Many it's

799
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: like that's like three weeks worth. It it's not. Nothing

800
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: he's been in a funk that he's not used to be.

801
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: In but that's a long tea have to, say what

802
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: do you make of? That what are you seeing From?

803
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: Ronnie and is there any concern about him moving forward

804
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: because obviously we know what he is when he's.

805
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Right, YEAH i MEAN i have no concern about him moving.

806
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: FORWARD i have no concern about him being out there,

807
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 3: Playing And i'm not really overly concerned about the fact

808
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: that he's going through a down, spell which most players

809
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: over the course of the season are going to find

810
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 3: their way. Into you hope it doesn't last for months

811
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: and months like Say Michael harris or And Azzie, alby's but,

812
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: everybody nobody's immune to this kind of. STUFF i, MEAN

813
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: i think we have seen, it you, know for long

814
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: enough to understand. That but For, RONALD i have a

815
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: few different. Thoughts Number, ONE i would probably have never

816
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: moved him out of the lead on, spot and you

817
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: can remove the. Probably it's just not a thing THAT

818
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: i would have. Done, HOWEVER i understand that at that

819
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: time The braves had to try something and they felt, Like,

820
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: okay this guy is a run, producing you, know superstar,

821
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: player maybe it makes sense to just try. This AND

822
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: i have no issues with the fact that they tried.

823
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: IT i don't think it did a lot other Than

824
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: profar has been very good and he's leading off and

825
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: that makes. Sense but it hasn't done a lot For.

826
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: Ronald it hasn't done a. Ton in the middle of the,

827
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: order there's still a lot of moving, parts whether that's

828
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: Losing Austin riley and Then acuna goes on THE il

829
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 3: and then Bald ones in another, Lineup Hassan kim comes,

830
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: In Michael harris gets, Hot Michael harris cools. OFF i,

831
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: mean it's like the dials of this thing just keep

832
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 3: moving up and down in different areas and you can't

833
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: really get just like a baseline of expectation for what

834
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: they're going to. Be that, said the offense has been

835
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: better than it was in the first half here in

836
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: the second. HALF i feel like it was the first

837
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: maybe seven or ten games That ronald was back from

838
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: the calf, injury IF i remember, right AND i may

839
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: be wrong on, this he reached base a lot in

840
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: those first seven to ten. Games wasn't a ton of.

841
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: Power it's only the one home run since he's come,

842
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: back but he was walking a. TON i think he

843
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: walked four times in one, game maybe against The mets

844
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: on that road, trip and then since then it's just

845
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: been lights, out like one for thirty or whatever it.

846
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: Is with one. Walk he's not punching out a, ton

847
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: but he's striking out a little. Bit it's just it

848
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: hadn't looked. Great But i've also seen him scald the

849
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: ball a few times and it get run, Down and,

850
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: AGAIN i don't look at it as anything other than

851
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: players go through this. STUFF i just want to see

852
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: him play baseball close out this year and move into

853
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and be back hitting at the top

854
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: of the order where he. Belongs as far as they're hitting,

855
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: six hitting seventh that kind of. STUFF i don't really

856
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: know when we're going through that, exercise other than if

857
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: he is feeling like he's got a lot of pressure on,

858
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 3: him that is a way to take some of the pressure.

859
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: OFF i, MEAN i Know Austin riley got dropped down

860
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: in the lineup. SOME i don't know if it was

861
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: all the way down to seventh that's. Happened Matt olsen

862
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: has been dropped some in the, lineup and you know

863
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: that's maybe not all the way down to. Seventh, AGAIN

864
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: i don't know exactly we're doing that other than it's

865
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: Just september of a year in which The braves have

866
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: never Experienced In Ronald Cooney junior's, Career they've never been this.

867
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: Bad they. Haven't, statistically this team or at least one

868
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: win loss, record hasn't been in this position since the

869
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: year before he came. Up so it's a much charted. Territory,

870
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: AGAIN i think we're kind of rearranging deck chairs as

871
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: far as the lineup is. Concerned the ship is already

872
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: sinking as far as The braves playoff, hopes they're already

873
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: heading to the bottom of the. Ocean but, AGAIN i

874
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: just want to see him. HEALTHY i want to see

875
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: him out there. PLAYING i know he's been tentative in

876
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: the outfield. TOO i Think Mark bowman posted something about

877
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: that On. Sunday i've been watching that pretty closely and

878
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: thinking that's a ball THAT i would love to see

879
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: if he felt healthy, enough like what that would look,

880
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 3: like BECAUSE i still think that there is that thought

881
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: in the back of his, mind whether it's the calf

882
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: or the knee or just good old fashioned self preservation

883
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: after having to go through a couple of major injuries

884
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: and miss a ton of playing time where you just

885
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: don't feel like yourself and you just don't feel confident about.

886
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: That you don't want to make a bad play. Worse

887
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: SO i can understand. That but, yeah there's just a

888
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: few aspects of his game right now that are not

889
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: up to that peak level Of Ronald Lacuna. Junior BUT

890
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: i think there's more to be gained from him. Playing

891
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: there's a case to be made that he could hit

892
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: higher in the order and just slump there rather than

893
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: moving him. Around but, AGAIN i don't know that it

894
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: really matters in the, end BUT i just want to

895
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: see him finish the, season get in next, year get

896
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: that healthy offseason where he's not, rehabbing AND i think

897
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: you're going to see a more are fully formed and

898
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: functional version Of Ron Lacuney junior in twenty twenty.

899
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Six it's so funny, too because you look up even

900
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: even after this, downturn and he has a one forty

901
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: SEVEN wrc plus for the. Season it's, like that guy's

902
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: pretty that guy's pretty. Good, Okay just this is honestly

903
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: almost more about our show than. You grant we are

904
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: probably rightly accused of BEING i don't know if IT'S

905
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: i don't know IF i don't know if apologist is the right,

906
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: term but maybe the high guys On Sean, murphy AND

907
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: i think it's not. REALLY i think it's just being

908
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: realistic about What Sean murphy. Is that's just. Me But

909
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: Sean murphy has been a punching back for a lot of,

910
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: fans you know this for a couple of. Years, uh

911
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: and lightly he has been quite bad at the. PLATE i,

912
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: mean just that's just the long and short of. It

913
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: his season long numbers look actually still kind of, fine

914
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: like he's been a two win, Player like it looks,

915
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Fine but most of that damage was done early in the,

916
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: season And i'm not gonna go down the whole, roster

917
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that you, know it's worth talking

918
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: about how kind of in a funk he has been.

919
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: TOO i wonder what you made of that and now

920
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: that we had last year which was much more injury,

921
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: BASED i, think but maybe you, disagree like now we've

922
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: seen this for a year and a, half it's not

923
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: been the same as it was before, that so it

924
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: is like a in your, mind it's impossible to. PREDICT i,

925
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: know is he gonna come back to being that? Guy

926
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: what is this the new normal For Sean? Murphy like

927
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: where are you at with? That as far as uh

928
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: at this point in the.

929
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: Season, YEAH i MEAN i would say this in terms

930
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty Three Sewn murphy that we, SAW

931
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: i think that for a lot of, guys maybe that's

932
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: the outlier year or the highest of highs that it's

933
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: going to be for a, player whether That's Ronald Laguney,

934
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: junior Or Matt olsen Or Sean murphy or Certainly Orlando

935
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: rco while he was. Here he never got back to

936
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: that level. Again AND i don't foresee that, happening and

937
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: The brads don't have to worry about that, now but

938
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: more so With. MURPHY i know when we talked to

939
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: him in spring training he, said look at the oblique

940
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: didn't bother me in my return from the. Injury but

941
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: all the miss TIME i never felt LIKE i got

942
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: my swing. RIGHT i do feel like at times this

943
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: year he's had his swing, right but he is sharing

944
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: With Drake baldwin for very good. Reason there are also

945
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: good reasons why he does, start especially For Hurston waldrop

946
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: and other. TIMES i, MEAN I i know a lot

947
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: of folks want to See Drake balden play every. Day

948
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 3: i've kind of thought going all along that, hey, look

949
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: this is a two persons to brace have said, this

950
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: AND i think we can understand that catching is pretty

951
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: much a two person. Job the guys where it's. Not

952
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: it's kind of an, outlier but that's the way The

953
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: braves look at. It Why Marcelo zuna gets extra starts

954
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 3: at D, H i don't really, know and again.

955
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: That's my thing To marcel's like, anyway.

956
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: That's what makes it confusing, though if we're really kind

957
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: of breaking it all, down and it's nothing Against, marcel

958
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: who's been all accounts And i've been there to see.

959
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: It a great respected. Teammate he's had his problems on the,

960
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: field he's had his problems off the, field but when

961
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 3: you kind of break down how he is viewed by

962
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: the team and by his, teammates he is somebody of

963
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: value in that. Clubhouse so it's not shocking for me

964
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: to see him get playing. Time it's just been that

965
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: the playing time has been seemingly at the expense Of Drake.

966
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: Baldwin but they're also not trying to beat the brakes

967
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: off Of Drake baldwin down the stretch and break him

968
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: all the way down In september is as much as

969
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: you want to see him win The rookie of The year,

970
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: award AND i think that he is the front runner

971
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: in my mind. STILL i know he's got some competition

972
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: at this, point BUT i still feel Like drake is

973
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: the leader when you really break it all down and

974
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: taking the positional value of him being a catcher and

975
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: all the stuff he's done this, year but they're not

976
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 3: going to break him down in the search of individual.

977
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: ACCOLADE i know a draft picks attached to. IT i

978
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: know they like that draft, pick but they're i think

979
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: just trying to manage through it the best that they.

980
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: Can it's The Marcelo zuna of it that's a little bit,

981
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: confusing because Obviously murphy had been swinging the bat, well

982
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: so you can understand Why marcel might be getting more

983
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: at bats in that particular. Place but What Sean murphy

984
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: does behind the plate also has. Value so it makes

985
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: this a rather convoluted and sometimes confusing time share between

986
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: three guys for two.

987
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: Spots, yeah it definitely. Does AND I i do think

988
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: the baseline For Sean murphy's bat is higher than it's

989
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: been the last couple of. MONTHS i also don't know

990
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: if it's to your, point if it's going to be

991
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Three For Shawn, murphy we had a one

992
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: to thirty dob rcy PLUS i take the under on

993
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: that being the real.

994
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: Baseline but, yeah And i'd say, THIS i, mean If

995
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: i'm looking at, him like not even getting into like

996
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: advanced lines and different metrics or. WHATEVER i kind of

997
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: always Viewed Sean murphy as a guy that's going to

998
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: hit somewhere between two forty and two fifty with fifteen

999
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 3: to twenty home, runs a chance to drive in fifty

1000
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 3: sixty seventy runs depending on his playing time and, ops

1001
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: maybe somewhere around seven fifty to eight. Hundred that's kind

1002
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: of WHAT i Thought Sean murphy is at his, height

1003
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: and if it's a little bit lower than, that maybe

1004
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: he's a two to twenty hitter with the same amount of.

1005
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: Power RBI's a little bit lower because he's not getting

1006
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: as many. HITS i, mean just if you're looking at the,

1007
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: old good old fashioned triple crown. Categories but what he

1008
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: does beyond that is still of. Value how he handles that,

1009
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 3: staff how he has Helped Drake baldwin with the game

1010
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: calling and preparation this. YEAR i don't know if enough's

1011
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: been said about, this and it's not all just On Sean.

1012
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: Murphy the team obviously has everybody kind of meeting and

1013
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: doing these, things and they've been big on this for a.

1014
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: While but he is a net positive to this club

1015
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 3: now what they do with his time share beyond twenty twenty,

1016
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: five those are again the discussions that The braves have

1017
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: to have about how we are utilizing our, funds how

1018
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: we are deploying the players that we have in the

1019
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: best possible, way and they can figure, out you know,

1020
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: what if anything they need to do as far as

1021
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: transactions to Give Drake baldwin more playing time when they

1022
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: get into the off. Season But Marcelo zuna being out

1023
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: of the, PICTURE i feel like kind of already creates

1024
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: the necessary at bats if you, will Between Sean murphy

1025
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: And Drake, baldwin and maybe you Give Ronal Lakunya junior

1026
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: a little bit OF dh here and, there maybe you

1027
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 3: give somebody else a LITTLE dh time here and, there

1028
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: and just kind of use that as a way to

1029
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: keep somebody's bat in the lineup and not necessarily feel

1030
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: like you have to have one guy locked. In but

1031
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: When marcell started hitting forty homers and driving in one hundred,

1032
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: runs you knew he was going to get those at.

1033
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 3: Bats so The braves have kind of been in a good.

1034
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 3: Place but it's in some, ways and this is probably

1035
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: a gross exaggeration of twenty three and twenty. Four it's

1036
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: a blessing and a curse because you have a GREAT

1037
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: dh who needs to play every. Day but the downside

1038
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: is you can't take your other guys and just start

1039
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: him AT dh because you don't want to take the

1040
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: other guy of the lineup because he's one of your best.

1041
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: Hitters it does make it. Harder and the baseline of

1042
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: how good that player has to be to be a

1043
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: full TIME dh is really. High And, marcel to your,

1044
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: point cleared it for a. While, yeah but that it's

1045
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: a really high. Baseline you have to have to have

1046
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: an old to have A dh only player on this

1047
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: kind of. Team when you have guys to your, Point,

1048
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: ronnie who might need to not a day, off but a.

1049
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: Break everyone's even even profar not a great. Defender maybe

1050
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: maybe you know that there's several guys in this lab

1051
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: that could use that kind of. Flexibility but, YEAH i

1052
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: mean we actually agree as much as people are probably

1053
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: gonna be surprised by, this we agree On murphy's. Baseline

1054
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: like even in the last three years that he had

1055
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: In oakland before he came, over he was opsing in

1056
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: like seven. Fifty, yeah and that's all he by the,

1057
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: way seven fifty for a for a catcher who defends

1058
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: the what he does is, Great like that's a. Star

1059
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: he's not. Ball what's a better hitter than? HIM i

1060
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: will grant, THAT i will openly talk about, that but,

1061
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: uh you, know it is what it. IS i am

1062
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna get you out of. HERE i promise you. Grant

1063
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: one thing that popped up today THAT i want to

1064
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: make SURE i asked you about before we sign off

1065
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: is that they Gave Spencer strider a couple more. Days,

1066
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: uh and that was in a vacuum. FINE i think

1067
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: the way it was delivered was kind of. Odd they

1068
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: waited till today to announce, it even though Apparently sid

1069
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: said it was decided four days ago and they just

1070
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: didn't tell anybody. Whatever but that of course prompts questions About.

1071
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Spencer is he? Okay is he heard? That they immediately said,

1072
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: No but he's stopping, him he'stop being the same. GUY

1073
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: i should, say he's not. Himself maybe this is kind

1074
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: of a new, normal not this not this. Production but

1075
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: he's pitching differently out of necessity and as a, GUY i,

1076
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: know they know you've talked too many. Times i'm sure

1077
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: he's going through a lot right, now like figuring out

1078
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: what he can what he can and can't. Do but

1079
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: this is A i've kind of asked this variety of

1080
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: questions with a lot of different. Guys, ESPECIALLY i think

1081
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: it's almost maybe the most interesting of all of, them because,

1082
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: like if he's a different, pitcher it doesn't necessarily mean

1083
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: a bad. Picture he still might be really, good but

1084
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: he's like clearly figuring it. Out what have you seen

1085
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: as far as as he's figuring it?

1086
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: Out he's had a really weird season to me because

1087
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: like he comes back and then he has to go

1088
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: on the il for a month because of the. Hamstring

1089
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: but in this first five starts there were flashes of,

1090
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: it but he lost all five of them and had

1091
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: an the era OF i think five point forty at that,

1092
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: point and you're kind of, wondering all, right what is

1093
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: this year going to be like For Spencer's? Strider and

1094
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: then he rips off like this eight or nine start

1095
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: run it felt like Of Spencer strider esque. Performance there's

1096
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: a lot of swing and, miss tons of punch. Outs

1097
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: everything started to normalize a little. BIT i, mean it's

1098
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: still when you look at the as they would say

1099
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 3: The braves will, say especially the back of the baseball,

1100
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: card it's gonna look like a down year because it

1101
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: was a down. YEAR i think that a couple of

1102
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: things are to play at least for, me is how

1103
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: much do you expect out of a guy coming off

1104
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: of the procedure that he's coming off of and if

1105
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: you're really being honest about, IT i think that in

1106
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: some ways he's done the things that he needs to.

1107
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: Do the important thing to me, was you, know when

1108
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: people are, like, well he should not pitch again this,

1109
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: Year Chris sale should not pitch again this, year or

1110
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: coon you should not play again this, YEAR i think

1111
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: that's just extremely misguided at, Best it would be my

1112
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: way of putting, that because those reps matter more than

1113
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 3: just sitting around trying to manage yourself away from an, injury,

1114
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: which by the, way you. Can't that does not work that,

1115
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: way has never worked that, way will never work that.

1116
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: Way and if you start allowing guys to just not

1117
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 3: play because the games don't, matter you are on the

1118
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: slipperiest of slopes that you are never going to find

1119
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: your footing on. Again so putting that aside and kind

1120
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: of getting really dialed in On, SPENCER i haven't gotten

1121
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: to talk to him since he went to The maven

1122
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: facility to really start to kind, OF i, think reconstruct

1123
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: his fastball a little, bit or at least any incremental

1124
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: improvement that he could, make because he wasn't getting as

1125
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: much run on his fastball as he has been in the,

1126
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: past and that's to me a bigger deal than is

1127
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 3: he not throwing a ninety nine or one hundred miles an.

1128
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 3: Hour it's can he put it where he wants to

1129
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: with the movement that he needs to to differentiate from his,

1130
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: slider and then pitch in wherever he wants to or

1131
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 3: fit in his other pitches to give him that complete.

1132
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: Arsenal and his slider really had been problematic this year

1133
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: more so than any other. Year if you go look

1134
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: at his savant page and look at his slider year

1135
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: over year over, year and obviously the, fastball the breakdown

1136
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: of the damage that's been done on each one of those,

1137
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: pitches you could kind of see that his dominant pitch,

1138
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: was which is a swing and miss slider was just

1139
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: not the swing and miss pitch that he needs it to.

1140
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: Be so if you're a fastball slider pitcher and your

1141
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: fastball's not working and your slider's not, working you're going

1142
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: to be very very. CONFUSED i would say that's an

1143
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: identity crisis right, there because even if he is thrown ninety,

1144
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: five ninety, six ninety seven miles an, hour which he

1145
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: has been pretty routinely in most of these. STARTS i

1146
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: think his average fastball velocity in his last two starts

1147
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: were a couple of his highest of the, season but

1148
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: not as much swing and miss. Yet BUT i also

1149
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 3: feel like every time that he can go out there

1150
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: and continue to work on it is. MEANINGFUL i think

1151
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: he said after this last, start it is hard with

1152
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 3: only four or five days in between to make a

1153
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: big time change THAT i feel like is going to

1154
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 3: sink in. Immediately it's a fluid, process and the winter

1155
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: is a time for a lot of this. Work spring

1156
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: training is obviously a time for a lot of this.

1157
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: Work BUT i think getting him through this, year with

1158
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: whether it's three more starts four more, STARTS i think

1159
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 3: it'd probably be closer to three starts remaining in the.

1160
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: Season if we're kind of breaking it all down For

1161
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: Spencer strider get into the, winner not on a rehab,

1162
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: program be able to strength, train be able to work

1163
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: in the any facility he needs to or with the

1164
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: club on execution of his pitches and refining his arsenal

1165
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: without the specter of oh, yeah AND i got to

1166
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: start AND i don't feel like. Myself but he's going

1167
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: out there to compete because He's Spencer strider and he

1168
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: wants to, compete and what he has to work, with

1169
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: more times than not is probably going to put you

1170
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: in a place to win a ball. Game but at

1171
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: the start Of, august there were some definite questions about

1172
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: one in the world has gone wrong and how can

1173
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: you do some damage? Control and that's WHY i ended

1174
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: up at that pitching lab to try to figure out.

1175
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: Something because necessity is the mother of all, INVENTION i

1176
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 3: think is Why Ronaldlacuney junior is betting seventh right. Now

1177
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: you're just trying to move some things, around just hoping

1178
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: that change will spark, something and THAT i think is

1179
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: For Spencer strider as much as anything. Was all, Right

1180
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: i'm trying to do EVERYTHING i can, now let me

1181
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: see WHAT i can, change let me see WHAT i

1182
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: can adjust to get through, this BECAUSE i still THINK

1183
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 3: i still think another mile an, hour maybe two miles

1184
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 3: an hour is still possible for. Him if he's able

1185
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: to string train the way that he has in the

1186
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: past over the winter and come back in the, SPRING

1187
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 3: i think we could see a tick up in that.

1188
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 3: Velocity is he going to be the one hundred and

1189
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: one hundred two guy? Anymore maybe? Not maybe it doesn't.

1190
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: Matter but he's got good enough pitches to not have

1191
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: to throw one hundred miles an hour to be a

1192
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: successful big.

1193
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: Leader, yeah and you mentioned, it BUT i want to

1194
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: give the number the kind of proof of concept almost

1195
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: that's probably a little too. Strong but he had this

1196
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: nine start stretch that you mentioned FROM i think it

1197
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: was like through Early, august so like Mid june through

1198
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: The august where he had it was nine. Starts he

1199
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: struck out sixty eight in nine starts and era in the.

1200
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: Twoes and it wasn't fluky, like it wasn't like he

1201
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: was getting bad bit, block like he was pushing guys,

1202
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: out to your, point like pitching up without them without

1203
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: the one hundred and one. Festival this is this is

1204
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: the post injury. Strider so we saw it for a

1205
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: flash six weeks or whatever it was lost it. Again but,

1206
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean for, ME i mean you know him

1207
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: better THAN i, do of, course but like he's such

1208
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: as A rebrol, GUY i have maybe outsized faith that

1209
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: he'll just figure it. Out he's going to figure out

1210
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: the what what he has to do to get. Out

1211
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: now there is a baseline of stuff you have to.

1212
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: Have BUT i think he still has it like he's

1213
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: not throwing eighty nine like he's you, know he's he's

1214
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: not suddenly Great, maddox he's and he's got he's soft

1215
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: tossing up there LIKE i think he's going to figure it.

1216
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: Out that's that's my broad. Hypothesis BUT i kind of

1217
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: believe that that he's the kind of guy who's going

1218
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: to just be in the lab and take ring until

1219
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: he figures it.

1220
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: Out and you know what was interesting, too because here's

1221
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: all that conversation About Walker bueller getting cut loose by

1222
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: The Red sox and you, know with the brains go after,

1223
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: him AND i kind of, thought, well if he's out

1224
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: there and they can get, him maybe they. Will BECAUSE

1225
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: i was immediately thinking about What alex said about the whole,

1226
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: huh maybe we should bring some people in and see

1227
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: if they like it here and see if they want

1228
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: to stay here. Longer and then The phillies ended up getting,

1229
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: in which you, know is. FINE i don't think you're

1230
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 3: missing out on anything, particularly but you look At Walker

1231
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: bueller when he came, up much Like Spencer. STRIDER i,

1232
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: mean this is a guy who's doing ninety eight miles an, hour.

1233
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: Routinely now you look at, him he's still in ninety

1234
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: four miles an, hour so he's lost a, full you,

1235
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: know chunk of. VELOCITY i don't Think strider's loss has

1236
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: been as marked As bueller's has he, ALSO i mean

1237
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: that both of them have gone through the arm. Injuries

1238
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 3: no two guys are the. Same SO i mean it

1239
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: could be apples and. Oranges it could be apples and.

1240
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: POMEGRANATES i don't, know but either, WAY i think you

1241
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 3: can kind of see by maybe judging where other people

1242
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 3: are on, this you, know spectrum of what you need

1243
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: to be successful as a big league. Player Spencer strider

1244
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 3: still got a lot of those. Tools some of THEM

1245
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: i think just needed sharpening or they needed to be

1246
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: a little bit, recalibrated and it is very difficult to

1247
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: do that between. STARTS i don't think that there's enough

1248
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: appreciation for how hard it can be to be able

1249
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: to end with the expectation of not only AM i

1250
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 3: going to make these changes it will help me, out.

1251
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: But i've got to go be a.

1252
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 3: Dominator you think he doesn't know that because that's pretty

1253
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: much what he's been and so it's hard for. Him

1254
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: i'm sure to reconcile in some ways and these are my,

1255
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 3: words not, his by the way that it's no fun

1256
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: being in the boat that he was in and not

1257
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: having the answers and not knowing what to be able

1258
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: to do to immediately fix. It in course, correct.

1259
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: It makes total sense to me and just a guy

1260
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: that's not exactly a perfect synopsis of the, team but you,

1261
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: know down year figuring it, out but has the talent

1262
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: to be the guy that still is a top, line

1263
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: front of the rotation kind of. Picture that's like kind

1264
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: of a in the box of what the team is

1265
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: trying to do in. General it's, like, hey not to

1266
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: break full, circle not throw it, out like you're still

1267
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: looking at what happened this, year figuring out what happened

1268
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: and all those. Things but also there's room for optimism

1269
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: With spencer in a way that there might be for

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Speaker 1: the whole. Club so maybe trying to put this in

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Speaker 1: to clean up a. B but it was a nice

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Speaker 1: full circle.

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Speaker 3: Moment they're, GREAT i, mean we do, it we, can,

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00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: right AND i do think, that you, KNOW i would

1275
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: be surprised to see them chalk this one up To,

1276
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: ah there's just some injury and some bad. LUCK i

1277
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: think that there are some areas and inefficiencies for this,

1278
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 3: club whether it was from roster construction to just trying

1279
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: some things that didn't work, out and then, yes injury

1280
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: was an. Issue how long does it take to make,

1281
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 3: adjustments because AGAIN i can just promise you they don't happen.

1282
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: Overnight it's not as easy as just, yeah so and

1283
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: so told me.

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Speaker 2: To raise my. Hands now all of a, Sudden i'm fixed.

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Speaker 3: FOREVER i, mean if look at what happened To Michael,

1286
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: harris he, thought, hey figured it all. Out, Yeah Michael

1287
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: harris going to hit four hundred for the rest of the.

1288
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 3: YEAR i don't think that was the. Expectation but now

1289
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 3: maybe he's just feels a little bit more equipped to

1290
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: be what he needs to be going. Forward but it

1291
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 3: took a long time to get to that adjustment and

1292
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: not to go. Off AND i ran about, that but

1293
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 3: he said the same, thing which Was Tim hyers had

1294
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 3: been working with, him wanting him to change where his hands.

1295
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: Were he wasn't comfortable making that. Change and this is

1296
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: not a coach's edict of you're going to start doing.

1297
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: This you're not gonna throw this. Pitch you're gonna throw that,

1298
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: pitch you're going to swing the bat this way and

1299
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: not that. Way this is a collaborative, process and it's

1300
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: not easy for players to ditch things that have worked

1301
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: for a longer period of time to just get a

1302
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: quick gain and a quick turnaround that may not be.

1303
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: Sustainable it's a very difficult, process AND i know this

1304
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: is probably not gonna make anybody feel any better about

1305
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: The braves have played this, year but just understand these

1306
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: are all human beings trying to solve these problems in

1307
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: real time against real, competition and when you're going through,

1308
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: it SOMETIMES i feel like it has to feel like

1309
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: you're never gonna find your way out of. It but

1310
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: typically over the course of a marathon of a, season

1311
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: you usually. Do but there are definitely highs and definitely. Lows,

1312
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,479
Speaker 3: unfortunately this is one of those years where we felt

1313
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: a lot more of the latter than we would have liked.

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Speaker 1: To that's, right, Well, GRANT i have taken way too

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00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: much of your time after you put in a full

1316
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: day of. FALCONING i appreciate you doing this before before

1317
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: we sign, off tell folks THAT i can't imagine people

1318
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: not following. You but if they're not they're making a

1319
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: mistake number. One but where can they find all of

1320
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: your musings and written things and spoken things of all

1321
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: the things about The.

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Speaker 3: Braves, WELL i appreciate that you can find me On

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00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: Sports radio ninety two.

1324
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Speaker 2: Nine in The.

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00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 3: GAME i do cover The braves. THERE i have my

1326
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: show it's called from The. Diamond it airs on weekends

1327
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: now that we're in football, season, Though i'm going to

1328
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 3: kind of get moved around just a bit not having

1329
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: a show this, weekend but next week we'll be back

1330
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: at it On. Saturday you'll hear that CONVERSATION i had

1331
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: With Austin, riley as well as some other compos THAT i,

1332
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: had including a good one With Nick allen that was

1333
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: a lot of fun to just kind of pick his

1334
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: brain on the season and the opportunity that was for

1335
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: him to be an everyday player In, atlanta even if

1336
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: that was certainly not on his bingo card or anybody

1337
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: else's to start the. Year so a couple of THINGS

1338
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 3: i got coming. UP i also write for The Marriata Daily.

1339
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: Journal you can find my links to most all of

1340
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: these things on my, socials which is At grant McCauley

1341
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: on x or On. Instagram and you can also subscribe

1342
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: To from The diamond wherever you get your. PODCAST i

1343
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: appreciate that as, always and, YEAH i like to be.

1344
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: AROUND i enjoy talking. Baseball even IF i don't get

1345
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: to choose the way that the season is going to,

1346
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: go it's still a lot of fun to be able

1347
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: to sit down and do this. Stuff SO i appreciate

1348
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: you having on no.

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00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing, This. GRANT i appreciate, it and

1350
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: let me know IF i can have a return the. Favor,

1351
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: well we you, know do some home and homes every

1352
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: once in a, while AND i very much appreciate you

1353
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: taking the time as everybody else Follow grant's. Work as

1354
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: you just, said all those, places subscribe To Hammer territory

1355
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,479
Speaker 1: and we'll see you all next.

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Speaker 2: Time