1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of iHeart Radio. Hey brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbaum. Here, there's an age old war of terminology 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: in the culinary world that you're probably familiar with tomato, 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: fruit or vegetable, But there's another lesser known existential crisis 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: in the kitchen that demands some attention to Bananas. Are 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: they berries? And if so, what the heck are berries anyway? 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Botanically speaking, these particular dilemmas may have never crossed your mind, 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: but once you start digging into the topic, you might 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: find you end up with more questions than you started 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: out with. For instance, what even is a fruit? Botanists 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: consider fruit to be the parts of flowering plants that 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: developed from the ovary, and a vegetable. That's a little trickier, 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: since it's pretty much any part of the plant that 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: isn't considered a fruit or seed. Within the fruit family, 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: you've got subcategories that include citrus, stone fruits, palms like 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: apples and pears, droops like peaches and apricots, and pertinent 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: to our discussion today, berries. The differences between these subcategories 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: comes down to which part of the plant's flour and 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: ovary produces the skin, flesh, and seeds of the fruit 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: in question. The technical definition of a berry is a 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: fleshy fruit produced from a single ovary. If you're not 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: too familiar with botany, this definition probably isn't helpful at all. 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: But once you learn that oranges and tomatoes fit that 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: definition to a t and therefore could be considered berries, 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: you may start to question reality. Go a step further 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: and find out that strawberries, yes, those delicious red fruits 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 1: with berry literally in the name, aren't officially berries either. 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: They're accessory fruits, meaning the flesh that surrounds the seeds 29 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: doesn't actually come from the plant's ovaries, but from the 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: ovaries receptacle. I didn't think would be talking so much 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: about ovaries in this episode, did you. By the way, 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: raspberries aren't technically berries either. It all goes to show 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: that our language, and especially the connective tissue between our 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: everyday language and our scientific language, is highly flexible. So 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: scientifically speaking, what exactly is a berry? Well, a berry 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: has three layers of flesh, the exocarp or the outer skin, 37 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: the mesocarp or the flesh in the middle, and the endocarp, 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: which is the innermost part. That holds the seeds, and 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: guess what has all of those layers The yellow, peeled, 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: white fleshed, seed carrying banana, which, by the way, is 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: the number one fruit choice in the United States according 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: to the U s d A. In every Man, Woman, child, 43 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: and otherwise identifying human person ate about eleven pounds or 44 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: five kilos of bananas. Berries must also have two or 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: more seeds, and their fruit must develop from a flower 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: with a single ovary. Once again, the banana checks all 47 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: of those boxes, and weirdly, so does the tomato, eggplant, 48 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: kiwi and bell pepper. Oranges are a specific type of 49 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: berrier called a Hesperidium thanks to their distinct segments. So 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: in conclusion, bananas are berries, strawberries and raspberries are not, 51 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: and you will never again know peace. In the produced section, 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: today's episode was written by Michell Kanstandrodowski and produced by 53 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Clay. Brain Stuff is production of I Heart Radio's 54 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: How Stuff Works. 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