WEBVTT - Friday Flight - Stellar Staycations, Devilish Destination Fees, & Pay Cut Gut Punch #1122

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're talking stellar staycations, Devilish destination fees, and pay

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<v Speaker 2>cut gut punch.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, buddy, this is our Friday flight. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the most pressing headlines and how they

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<v Speaker 1>specifically pertain to your wallet, to your money. Should we

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and kick things off? Oh? Can I say

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<v Speaker 1>one thing? Yeah? I thought you wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's address. I do. I got to get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but okay, just briefly, just because I think

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<v Speaker 2>it leads into something we're going to talk about. But

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<v Speaker 2>you've been wearing Zenny glasses for a long time. Any

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<v Speaker 2>optical dot com something we haven't talked about in a

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<v Speaker 2>long time on the show though. So if anybody's like

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<v Speaker 2>needs a new pair of glasses and how they took.

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<v Speaker 1>Them off, look at them right now. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this pair for like three years. There's a literal

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<v Speaker 1>pair of glass and they probably cost you what twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars or I always get the lens upgrades, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it's less so it's more resistant to oil

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<v Speaker 1>and glare things like that. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth it or not to be honest, but it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>fifty bucks then, right for yeah, I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty something. He's like twenty four dollars frames with the upgrades.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's like upper thirties, slow forties stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I still so I had to get new glass.

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<v Speaker 1>These are premium. That's why my premium vision over here.

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<v Speaker 2>So my daughter needs glasses, as it turns out, don't

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<v Speaker 2>know way yeah, so my middle child, how'd y'all figure

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<v Speaker 2>that out?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she's like the vision's bory, I get headache.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we're like classic classic means you probably really probably

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<v Speaker 2>need some winning smart part to see what was getting

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<v Speaker 2>because don't use chalkboards anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all overhead projectors or the smart boards. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of smart boards. Yeah, and so we so

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, all right, let's go get your eyes tested.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like an extreme prescription. It's a small one,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's like, all right, okay, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>get you some some glasses and't and Emily's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look look at Warby Parker ninety five bucks. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's good. They all look like pretty adulty, all

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<v Speaker 1>the frames though, even the ones for kids. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>look very academic. Yeah, like even as a kid. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have Warby Parkers, it's like, oh, you subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>the Times, you know, right exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you reading the Water Journal every morning? And Zenny

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<v Speaker 2>just has some cuter kid like frames. Yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are going to even wear Warby Parkers, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to look at sen you do read

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<v Speaker 2>the Wall Street Journal with her pipe every morning? So

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<v Speaker 2>uh and so yeah, we got four pairs of new glasses. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>because she's gonna loose on by the way, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to prepare for that. Well, tell guess how much

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<v Speaker 2>I paid for four pairs of glasses from zennything that

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<v Speaker 2>you got, like the nine dollars pairs, so nine times

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<v Speaker 2>four thirty six, but shipping forty two bucks? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>a little more so ninety one dollars oh total all in.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get the super baseline frames. No, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a nice seventeen eighteen dollars frames, the clip on sunglasses

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<v Speaker 2>to add on for a couple of them, which is nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's gonna be set for summer, I know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I know she looks adorable in them.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see. Yeah, so cute, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's got you know, glasses tour with different outfits

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<v Speaker 2>and then when she loses one to get different colornoid. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's super cute. So it just remind her to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>if you need glasses, is any opticle is the way

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<v Speaker 2>to go, Not an ad just super cheap, solid sunglasses

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<v Speaker 2>that arrive at your step and a weeker we can have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless you've got a local optometrist who you absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>want to support and they've got some nice frames there

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<v Speaker 1>by by all means do that. What I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see folks do is avoid the in between sort of companies,

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<v Speaker 1>right like where you're paying a fortune for an inferior

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<v Speaker 1>product and it's like, oh, we actually if you throw

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<v Speaker 1>one more pair of frames in there, it's only fifty

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<v Speaker 1>more dollars. You know, by the time you're all sudden done,

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<v Speaker 1>is like four hundred and fifty dollars with the eye

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<v Speaker 1>exam and two oh plus the bonus pair of glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, well, I don't even like any

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<v Speaker 1>of these frames, but you end up getting them anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing. One, how cheap it's gotten so much

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<v Speaker 2>more cost effective. Don't remember going to get glasses when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, uh, with my I had like

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<v Speaker 2>a I very like small, so I just like stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing them because it was a very very small prescription.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't mean but I've never known you literally they

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<v Speaker 1>were like for reading glasses that I was supposed to there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't really matter. So I but or going with

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<v Speaker 1>my parents, my dad weres classes and U and just

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<v Speaker 1>how expensive it was, how time consuming it was in

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<v Speaker 1>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can even do like the try on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the video try on when you're when you're

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<v Speaker 2>on zenies, so you kind of see what.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna look like in the glasses. And what's cool

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<v Speaker 1>is once you yeah, like you said, did y' all

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<v Speaker 1>measure using the pupilary distance thing and do all that

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<v Speaker 1>and so here here's what's so great is that you

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<v Speaker 1>are able to keep record of the frames that you

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<v Speaker 1>bought which has the pupillary distance and all the different

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<v Speaker 1>sort of metrics that pertain to that specific set of glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if she gets them, and it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh goodness, they're actually kind of a little bit small

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<v Speaker 1>on her. When you are looking at frames in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that, like, Okay, let's find ones that have

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<v Speaker 1>a I don't know, I'm just kind of making this up,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the peopilary distance of that's bigger by three

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. So st sixty seven, maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at seventy seventy one, that kind of thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can improve, you can essentially, yeah, kind of reiterate

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<v Speaker 1>or iterate upon the process. So these what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is these will be the worst fitting pair of Zenni's

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<v Speaker 1>and that she will likely ever have. Will dial it

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<v Speaker 1>in more exactly because I found that to be the

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<v Speaker 1>case over the years. This is so the ones I

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<v Speaker 1>have on now are my favorite. But I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>purchased over, I mean over the years, probably eight or

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<v Speaker 1>nine different pairs yeah, of Zenni's, if I had to guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's cool, man, pretty sweet, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that that worked out for y'all. Yeah. Oh, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say, I bet another reason that you got

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<v Speaker 1>four pair was because you pay the same price for shipping.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you notice that, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you got over a certain threshold, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was eighty nine dollars you qualified for free shipping, and

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<v Speaker 2>so honestly, that was part of it. Was like, all r,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hit ninety one. Yes, I need to get

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<v Speaker 2>her at least two pairs, probably three. Anyway, just because

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<v Speaker 2>we went through retainers like it was, these are a

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<v Speaker 2>little bunny. These are a little bit bigger and slightly

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<v Speaker 2>less painful. So hopefully she won't accidentally throw it away

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<v Speaker 2>with her right exactly, exactly, All right, let's let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's mention quickly the speech man. I watched it live

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<v Speaker 2>last night because I was very curious, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going.

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<v Speaker 1>To have a lot of the Trumpian address.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's going to have a lot of impact on

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<v Speaker 2>how we move forward, And it was I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was assuming that we were going to get some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of breaking news, but it seems like, kind of, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>things are going to continue in the same manner for

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<v Speaker 2>the next two to three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You're expecting something flashier. I was, Yeah, I was, And

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to be like, here's here's the new Iranian leader.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought him over myself. It would have been interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that did not happen. Instead, it was perhaps more presidential yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where he's just there delivering a boring address to the camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe we need more boring politics.

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<v Speaker 2>And you and I were saying before this that it

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<v Speaker 2>was proper to give an address the nation about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on and what the goals and the timeline and so,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think what this made me think and we

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<v Speaker 2>need to talk about a bunch of things today on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. But summer travel is something that people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that going to look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Oh? Yeah, with energy prices, energy prices, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And energy prices after that speech, true, oil prices went up,

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<v Speaker 2>right because people are like, all right, this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to this is not ending tomorrow, This is going to

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<v Speaker 2>continue for at least weeks if not.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of baked in the fact that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to give an address, because there was

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<v Speaker 1>the talk a few days ago too about things getting

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<v Speaker 1>dialed back essentially, and by him saying, oh, two or

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<v Speaker 1>three more weeks, I think a lot of folks were like, well, shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what we expecting, along with some serious threats

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<v Speaker 1>of hitting them hard, yes exactly, so yeah, essentially more

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<v Speaker 1>pain to come.

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<v Speaker 2>That's macroeconomic stuff and some political stuff which we try

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid, but like especially with the rising airfares that

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about recently, Matt, I kind of wish I

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<v Speaker 2>had like bought summer travel tickets, like airplane tickets months

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<v Speaker 2>ago before all this started. But if you're a procrastinator

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<v Speaker 2>and you're finding that like prices right now have made

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<v Speaker 2>those dreams of hopping on a plane less feasible, I

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<v Speaker 2>think one thing that we should be advice we can

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<v Speaker 2>offer Mat is to consider the staycation for at least

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<v Speaker 2>part of you of your summer trip. With that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds, and it always sounds I think more appealing

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<v Speaker 2>to depart for an exotic location, but it's always important

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<v Speaker 2>to consider the trade offs. You can enjoy your town

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<v Speaker 2>or your city like a tourist, you can save a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money. At the same time, you get to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid the annoyances of the airport drama, which we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about here on the show as well, which are getting better,

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<v Speaker 2>and then obviously filling up your gas tank. It's not cheap,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a lot cheaper than plane tickets right now,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with fuel surcharges becoming more common. I think was

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<v Speaker 2>a Jet Blue that just raised checked bag fees citing

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<v Speaker 2>higher fuel costs, and we're going to see more and

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<v Speaker 2>more of that coming down the pike. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're like, I don't know, man, that sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a lame suggestion, well, studies have actually found that staycations

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<v Speaker 2>with short day trips can restore psychological well being similarly

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<v Speaker 2>to an all out vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>The key I totally believe that, right. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>key is to mentally switch off from work to get

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<v Speaker 1>into a different headspace. It means like, don't check your

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<v Speaker 1>work email right while you're gone, whether you're on a

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<v Speaker 1>full fleducation or a staycation. So staycation with the proper mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is when could be a way for people

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<v Speaker 1>to save money and still enjoy their summer. Totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that a part of why a staycation

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<v Speaker 1>can be so restorative is because there's just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of logistics involved when you travel, right, Like, it like

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't kicking back in a place where you are

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<v Speaker 1>familiar that hopefully you know, a lot of people try

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<v Speaker 1>to create a space where you feel relaxed when you

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<v Speaker 1>are at home and instead of enjoying that this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you've worked towards it' say all right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here, go somewhere where it's where I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where anything is. So there's like a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>mental fatigue as opposed to staying home relaxing a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, I think there's something to be said for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks you've got that sort of frenetic

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<v Speaker 1>work energy, and even just transferring that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>when you're enjoying your staycation at home here and there

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<v Speaker 1>can allow you to feel better a about being a

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<v Speaker 1>help Like I'm thinking about like, oh, there's a stack

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<v Speaker 1>of bills or things, things I need a file or

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<v Speaker 1>look into. Uh, organizing your clothes a little bit, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know all the winter clothes. They're they're still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of on the show. I'm pulling things out of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer bend piecemeal. Just things like that where you

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<v Speaker 1>finally feel like you can get on top of some

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<v Speaker 1>of those things and then all of a sudden your

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<v Speaker 1>home it's even more relaxing, And I think there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of mental benefit that comes from that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And how many parents have you talked to who come

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<v Speaker 2>back from the vacation and they're like, I need a

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<v Speaker 2>vacation from the vacation. I think actually maybe creates more

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<v Speaker 2>of a true vacation reality, even though it's like boring, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it sucks. It's like, well, we didn't go to Hawaii

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<v Speaker 2>this year, man, But I do think that that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes me think of our our sabbatical this past summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and man, I was shocked at how the staycation was

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<v Speaker 2>just as good, if not better than some of our travels.

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<v Speaker 2>And we had awesome ye travels, but there was something

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<v Speaker 2>really special about being at home but not working.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. Might you know something like it like

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<v Speaker 1>that again this summer as well? I will say, if

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<v Speaker 1>folks do want to get out of town, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to let the deal influence your itinerary.

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<v Speaker 1>So Google flights Explore feature is an awesome way to

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<v Speaker 1>search because you're looking for the best deals around the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not just looking for very minor price adjustments to

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<v Speaker 1>your specific particular city that you want to visit within

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<v Speaker 1>like a very short window of time. Right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you can be flexible on your dates and your destination,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some huge ways to still save in a

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<v Speaker 1>large way when it comes to money, des by what

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines say regarding the cost and the price of travel.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids were asking about airfare prices last night. They

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<v Speaker 2>were like, so, what if you booked the day before?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's really expensive. They were like, what

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<v Speaker 2>if you book three years in advance? And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't actually do that. They're like, well, that's also

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive. Well they don't even have the tickets listen

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<v Speaker 2>for a sail yet. Okay, but what if you book

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<v Speaker 2>like nine months in advance? So I'm like, that's actually

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<v Speaker 2>really expensive too. And they're like, then when are you

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to book trammel? And I'm like, well usually months

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<v Speaker 2>two to three months three.

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<v Speaker 1>For international, right, Yeah, it just depends. So yeah, keep

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<v Speaker 1>keep looking. And I agree Google explore is great. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of the headlines, though, Matt recession predictions arising. The Free

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<v Speaker 1>Press recently published an article titled brace Yourselves, a recession

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<v Speaker 1>is coming. I guess that's based on is that a

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<v Speaker 1>lord of the rings? Beam to brace yourselves? Brace yourselves?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a lord of the rings? I'm sure maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's necessarily lord of the rings? All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you've read that more recently than I have, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's from the movie Defer. Okay, well, speaking of classic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really classic. We shouldn't talk about Harry Potter,

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<v Speaker 1>but the new Harry Potter series looks good. I'm on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah anyway, same, yeah, okay, So this makes me think

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<v Speaker 2>though about the Bloomberg headline from twenty twenty two. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you remember that one that forecast a chance of recession?

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't just it was everybody like all that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like all the banks were like yep, across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was saying that there was a recession, leaving room

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<v Speaker 1>for the possibility of there not being recession. But Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>went all the way in said one hundred percent. I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jamie Diamond was making comments and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody they were extreme, but at least they weren't like

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<v Speaker 1>it's an evil Bloomberg. The only one Bloomberg was the

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<v Speaker 1>one one hundred percent, and of course they were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And then even say ninety nine exactly like man, that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the one scenario we could not have thought

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<v Speaker 2>of actually played out well. And a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>post Liberation Day takes were predicting similar things, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>you and I were no fans of tariffs, but they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the pronounced impact actually that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people forecast. And so this article it's not ill informed.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually it highlights real risks, right, geopolitical risks in

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<v Speaker 2>particular that after the speech from this week, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>are meaningful, and they could play out. Given what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East, I wouldn't be surprised about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of potential outcomes that could have real, massive ramifications

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<v Speaker 2>on the global economy and on the US economy. But

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<v Speaker 2>when the R word starts getting tossed around and they

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<v Speaker 2>say a recession is coming, people tend to want to

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<v Speaker 2>run for the exits. And I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to see this word tossed around more and

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<v Speaker 2>more in the coming weeks, and it's frightening for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, Matt. But there I just I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to see. I think there's usually an emotional like cortisols

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<v Speaker 2>spike when you read those headlines and you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you need.

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<v Speaker 1>To take action. That's the whole point, right, Yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>run for the exits. Instead, continue to invest like an optimist,

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<v Speaker 1>save like a pessimist, and actually even pessimistic folks don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with his take. So there's this guy known as

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Doom. He's an economist at NYU, and he actually

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<v Speaker 1>recently shared that he doesn't see a recession on the horizon.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was kind of a providing a level headed take.

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<v Speaker 1>So who should you actually listen to? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best idea is to always be prepared for

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<v Speaker 1>a recession, whether we're talking about on the economy as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole or just in your own personal life, but

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking two and out recession predictions. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>folks might be getting tossed here and there by the

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<v Speaker 1>different headlines. And oh, prices are increasing, like, of course

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<v Speaker 1>the price of oil, we're just talking about that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, let's provide some context too, because the price

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<v Speaker 1>of oil, that's something where folks are like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the highest it's been in a really long time,

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty two, the inflation

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<v Speaker 1>adjusted price for a barrel of oil was one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty five dollars. So twenty twenty two, this is

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<v Speaker 1>post pandemic, and before that it was two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>This is during the Great Recession and the inflation, and

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<v Speaker 1>just price there is almost double what it is today.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's prices, it would have been two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve dollars. And so this isn't this isn't to say

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<v Speaker 1>that prices are not rising. But let's temper our expectations

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<v Speaker 1>of whether or not O recession is going to and

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<v Speaker 1>just for everyone to keep a levelhead, little heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's talk about the job market mat

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<v Speaker 2>because instead of getting an annual raise, there's a chance

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<v Speaker 2>you could actually get a pay cut at your annual review.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my friends actually recently mentioned he worked for

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty large employer here where we live, and he said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>looks like we have too much staff because of AI implementation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what's going to happen? He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure yet, but we could see reduced PEG.

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<v Speaker 2>We could see people's jobs eliminated. And so the headline

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<v Speaker 2>unemployment rate is still historically low. The job market has softened,

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<v Speaker 2>and folks who have been laid off, they actually find

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in a more precarious position right now. Instead of

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<v Speaker 2>applying for jobs hoping for a lateral move or to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in the same basic pay range. There's a new

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<v Speaker 2>study that highlights that many people feel forced to take

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<v Speaker 2>a job with a similar title that pays less. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's this company, Rivellio Labs, and they found that among

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<v Speaker 2>all white collar workers who changed jobs at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of line next year, forty percent took salary cuts of

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<v Speaker 2>more than ten percent. So you're unlikely to actually get

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<v Speaker 2>a pay cut at your annual review. That's not something

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing in big numbers, but we are seeing people

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<v Speaker 2>who are looking for another job or lose their job

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<v Speaker 2>and then are on the job market. They have to

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<v Speaker 2>be comfortable getting paid less, because that's four and ten

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<v Speaker 2>people who are getting a significant pay cut. There are

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<v Speaker 2>a few takeaways here, though. I think that's one is

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<v Speaker 2>to save up more cash, whether there's a recession, whether

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<v Speaker 2>something happens to your job. More cash on hand is huge,

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<v Speaker 2>right if you lose your job, that cash offers you

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<v Speaker 2>a longer runway, more time to hold out for the

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<v Speaker 2>right position and pay package. Also, of course, have your

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<v Speaker 2>bare bones budget on hand, your BBB, yes, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to help you stretch your dollar even further if

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<v Speaker 2>something happens to your job. And you're out there looking

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<v Speaker 2>at hunting. And if you like your job and your

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<v Speaker 2>current pay, make sure your employer knows how valuable you are,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you were to lose your job, then the

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<v Speaker 2>Piggins are slimmer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely like and that makes sense, like from

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<v Speaker 1>an intuitive standpoint, but also in this story, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>link to, of course all of the stories we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes for the Friday flight, but there

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<v Speaker 1>is an individual that they talked that they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>with and he kept saying something like, Oh, if they

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<v Speaker 1>would only give me a chance, I could prove myself

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<v Speaker 1>like that I'm really good if they only gave me

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<v Speaker 1>the time. In the back of my mind, I kept thinking, well, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you had time. It was with the job that you

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<v Speaker 1>had prior to getting let go. And there's no time

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<v Speaker 1>like the present when you are currently employed to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to express not only your appreciation. And this isn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, don't buy your boss a gift, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>find ways to prove your value and to show that

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<v Speaker 1>you're invested in that you're taking this job seriously right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it makes me think about relationships even like I

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<v Speaker 1>think back to when Kate and I were dating, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my time was spent thinking of ways to

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<v Speaker 1>impress her to like do something thoughtful. You got the

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<v Speaker 1>ring on the thing. Care you don't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. But like, unfortunately that's true. You get married.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've been married for like eighteen year, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>close to nineteen years, and life looks a lot different.

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<v Speaker 1>You have kids, you're kind of just cruising along. But

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<v Speaker 1>think about we just have a Unfortunately we take things

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<v Speaker 1>for granted, whether it's relationships or with jobs, and so

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<v Speaker 1>from a relationship standpoint, think about how how far a sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>thoughtful comment would go, especially if I shared that with

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<v Speaker 1>her in front of the kids for them to see

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<v Speaker 1>it as well. Right like that, just think about just

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing with from a family culture standpoint, truly

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate something there's no alterier motive as well, But

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<v Speaker 1>truly I'm trying to let her know that I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>something that she's doing. That goes a really long way

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<v Speaker 1>and thing in our relationship. Continuing to thrive and to

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<v Speaker 1>do well, and so within a professional job context, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that means leaning into your ability to express that

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<v Speaker 1>you are taking this job seriously, that you are proactively

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward, not just clocking in, showing up when you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be there, and not providing a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of value to that company.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, yeah, extra that might be extra effort most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and but the effort that words you need

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<v Speaker 2>to be used rarely to communicate that. It's like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>how you show up to the gig.

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<v Speaker 1>R and the effort that you were that it would

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<v Speaker 1>take now would I think be a fraction of the

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<v Speaker 1>effort that it would take to then end up finding

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<v Speaker 1>having to find a new job. Yeah. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm saying for folks who are currently employed, don't

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<v Speaker 1>assume that you are going to continue to be employed,

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<v Speaker 1>and definitely at this particular company one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also going to do when you are

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<v Speaker 2>looking for jobs to you know, whether you're currently employed

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<v Speaker 2>or not, to look for work at companies that treat

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<v Speaker 2>their employees as well. I think this is something that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get talked about enough. It's not just a job

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<v Speaker 2>and a salary. It's like, well, what's the culture of

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<v Speaker 2>this place that I'm now signing on to show up

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<v Speaker 2>at forty plus hours a week? Right, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>new where you Work Matter Support MATT, which which highlights

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<v Speaker 2>companies that their employees career as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds very nineties Where you Work mat it does,

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<v Speaker 1>it does, doesn't some sort of initiative from like the

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<v Speaker 1>Bush era.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and they highlight like twenty two companies in particular

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<v Speaker 2>in tech, finance, manufacturing, and healthcare that get the highest marks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the list is helpful, but the list also

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<v Speaker 2>leaves a little to be desired because there are just

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<v Speaker 2>tons of medium and small companies that treat employees incredibly

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 2>incredibly well. It's also very big companies. I saw Fidelity

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was on there on the list, which made me very happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, I love a Fidelity.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet that's a great place to work, right So

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<v Speaker 2>I guess just talk to friends, ask around it won

0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that's networking right too, which is the best way to

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 2>get a job. It might even be worth the sacrifice

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to get paid a little bit less to join a

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<v Speaker 2>great company. I was talking to a friend the other

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<v Speaker 2>day and he was like, yeah, man, I had this

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.159
<v Speaker 2>job offer, but then I got another one and I

0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.640
<v Speaker 2>took the one that paid less because it's a great

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 2>It was a great company. Two years in, I've moved up.

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I've climbed the ladder. I'm making more than I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I would ever, and so I love it. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah going And it was all because that company is

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<v Speaker 2>one that's known for a great culture and for looking

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 2>after its employees. And so I think more job security,

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 2>better advancement opportunities, think long term when you're thinking about

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the job that you want, and specifically looking towards companies

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that treat employees well. In fact, I actually use chat

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>chipet mat to look it up, like, hey, where we live,

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 2>what are some of the best companies? And they give

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<v Speaker 2>me to work for and they gave me a great

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 2>list of people first companies nice and I was like, man,

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>that's it's a good use of AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in case Matt fires me. I got these right,

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>this list of exact companies, and you have that power,

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm worried you're gonna use it. No, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fire me, and then I'm gonna go get my nursing job.

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Because do you see the article in the journal I

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was talking about, Oh yes, nursing jobs being sort of

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>like this rocket booster to middle class essentially, and it

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. It's not something that AI

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is going to be able to completely replace you aging population.

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Aging population. Yeah, you look at demographic, it's recession proof

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. There's a whole lot of flexibility when it

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>comes when it comes to nursing work right, like the poll,

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Like a few twelve hour shifts, then you got the

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>rest of the week to yourself. There's a whole lot

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to be There's a whole lot to appreciate there. I mean,

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a hard job. It was almost not easy a yeah,

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and I remember there's some stories from that, but but yeah,

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>and now I think that you can make six figures

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>as a nurse without Yeah, they talked about trying to

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<v Speaker 1>too hard, which is pretty incredible. And I don't mean

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 1>without working hard, but I mean without like it's not

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.119
<v Speaker 1>it's so much easier to make six figures as a

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<v Speaker 1>nurse now than ever before. We got more to get to, Matt,

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>including when we talk about some companies raising prices and

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous charges when you're buying a vehicle. We'll talk about

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that and more right after this. All right, buddy, we're

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>back from the break, and let us now get to

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the ludicrous headline of the week, which is from Yahoo Finance.

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<v Speaker 1>And even the fact that, yeah, who has a finance

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>sort of division? Or do they actually have some good

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they do, but sometimes it feels a bit click baity.

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it makes me to get you who the chocolate drink?

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You who have the bunny? Do I still make that? Waits? Yeah?

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>That is next? Quick? Yeah? I don't know. Yeah, do

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>they make you who? I haven't? Does you who have

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>a mascot? I feel like it was like a flood

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of chocolate milk. That's what I picture when I think

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of you. Who wasn't Was that part of their commercial?

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Right back again, back in the back from the nineties,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>there was oval tine, which felt like the worst name

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>for a chocolate drink. Ever, that was like a holdover

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 1>from the seventies, wasn't it oval Tee? I was like,

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not drinking yeah. Uh Now this is something that

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a listener sent over. Headline read should you really stop

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 1>contributing to your IRA? In twenty twenty six, Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>real truth that financial experts try to hide and coy

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Well, First off, any headline that makes it sound

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like that there are people who are trying to hide

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the truth from you, You know, the cabal of individuals

0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>who are just be skeptical. Guess is probably a to

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>be bogus, And this one is You're not gonna be

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>surprised at who actually gets highlighted here because it's social

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 1>media influencers, it's real estate investors. And I will say

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not against real estate investors. The folks that we

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>talk to on the show are very smart and that

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>they would never call your four oh one K or

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>your IRA scam like Grant cardone does, as he's referenced

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in this this article in that guy man, It's like,

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>this is so much bravado, it's not even fun. This

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>is bread and butter man, this is what he does.

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I'll level headed smart individuals out there that

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>approach life the way we do can hold two things

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 1>in their mind at the same time. They can walk

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and chew gum at the same time. They believe that

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>real estate investing can be a great path for those

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>who are interested and who want to put in the

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>extra work, and also that stocks and retirement accounts are

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate way to build wealth as well. It's just

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>different strokes for different folks.

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And what it is that you want your life looking

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I find it so interesting that people it's great if

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you go to real estate route and you build wealth

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 2>directly through, whether that's like owning commercial properties, whether it's

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 2>owning residential properties, whether you're single family, whether you're multi family, Like,

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>find your niche build wealth that way, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 2>But then I find it so fascinating that people who

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>do it that way want to just completely dunk on

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>people who do it like not everybody's cut out to

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>be a real estate investor and everybody wants that route.

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 2>And as we talk about on the show regularly, it

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 2>is a part time job to be a real estate investor.

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>You know this, it's not purely passive. You were just

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 2>telling me about a work date you had with your

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>kids at one of the rental properties, right, you like

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 2>child labor to get gust that thing up, which you

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 2>might be in trouble now with the authorities.

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>But that's it was a character building moments. I was

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 1>trying to instill grit. Yes, and we went to one

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.479
<v Speaker 1>of our favorite local haunts after the fact and got

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a great meal and some great beers. That's actually why

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>we were talking. Having that your kidation because we're talking

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.919
<v Speaker 1>about your kids love beer. Well, you and I were

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about one of the great beers that they always

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>have on tap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so just real estate investing, the way the

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>people who are myopically focused on that dunk on and

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 2>hate on other ways of building it.

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's be on. So much of it is because they're

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>trying to gain all the attention. This is written by

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>media that is trying to get all the clicks, and

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're going after.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>We live in an attention economy, that's right. Let's talk

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>about price hikes, Matt. They are all the rage right now.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I got an email this week that Sam's Club is

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<v Speaker 2>raising its membership prices from fifty bucks a year to

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 2>sixty bucks a year for the less expensive version of

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>their membership, which seems like not much like ten bucks

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 2>a year, Joel, don't crime me a river. But it's

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>a big jump from a percentage perspective, and so the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not hating on Sam's, I go there, Well, we've

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 2>got a membership. Remember, because of our trip to the

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 2>beach this past summer, Sam's delivery was like the easiest

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>thing for us to engage in, and so we got

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a Sam's membership for that reason. It saved us a

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>bundle that was worth it. It was worth it literally

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>just for that. Yeah, and then do I go there? No,

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, wait a minute, you did the you did the

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>tire that's true, the tire set, that's true. I did

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>this year.

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>It definitely has paid for itself. But I don't need

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>tires anytime soon, Like will will I renew?

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is definitely causing me to think twice, and so

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 2>I get it. I think the big discounter SAMs and

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Costco can save people a lot of money when you

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>use that membership regularly. We just don't use it all

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>that much. So this is a good reminder because I

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>think most people also have that membership on auto renewal.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>They're going to delete the email, they're going to move

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 2>on with their day. But every time you get a

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>price hike notification, it's a good time to reassess the

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 2>value proposition that this retailer holds in your life. Look

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>at the data, determine whether or not the business still

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>deserves your hard earned dollars. Again, ten dollars doesn't sound

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 2>like a ton of money. It's not going to break

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the bank map for most people listening, but there it's

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.719
<v Speaker 2>not really ten dollars, it's sixty dollars, right, and then

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>they're counting on you staying put no matter what. So

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 2>this is just a good policy to at least stop

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>for thirty seconds to a minute, maybe look at your

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>spending history and say does this still make sense for me?

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>That's right? Yeah, And let's be honest, we've had debates

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>over lesser amounts of money, Joel. Netflix, they're doing the same.

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>They're raising prices for the second time, and this year

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>or not this year, but in twelve months. So the

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>standard plan is now twenty dollars a month. That is

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a twenty four dollars annual increase. And of course folks

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>are going to probably balk and are like, dude, we

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>watched Netflix all the time, like it's got a ton

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of content. And I'm not trying to throw shade on

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Netflix's business model here, but may we are We're a

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>long ways from what was it four ninety nine when

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>they first started, when you would mail the mail the actual.

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Disks, that was what the good old day. Why do

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you hate Bridgerton, Matt, That's what the people want to know.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>No, if you are into that then more power to you.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it, but the people who love it

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 1>love it. Some people do. They can raise prices as

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>often as they'd like as they continue to increase the

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>content that they have. But you just have to ask

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>yourself whether you're going to sit there and just take

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>these increases or is it time to debate and just

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's not even a debate, it's just

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>asking yourself the question, am I getting value from this?

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Because businesses, retailers, they are banking on the fact that

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're not price sensitive. But that is our true

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>power in a free market economy, the ability to walk

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>away when we're not happy with the price once it

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>exceeds the value that we're receiving.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>It makes me want like, maybe it's a good exercise

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to say, Okay, what if Sam's Club jack the price

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>up to one twenty? What if they jacked it up

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to one eighty? Like would I stick around then and

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe have like a number in mind of of the

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>value that it provides. Because to be honest, Matt, I've

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>thought I've done this kind of thought exercise with my

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>costcome membership, and I'm like, they could they could actually

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>charge me a lot more, and I would stick around

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>because I shopped there enough. But the same is not

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>true for SAMs Club because they don't shop there nearly

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>as much, so the value proposition is far less.

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>For the cost of my life, there was costco I'd

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>have to like list out the amount of seaweed, kimshi

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>really nice rice port I sorry, yeah, pork butts, but

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>then also the prime brisket that we pick up on occasion,

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>look at the comparable prices, divide that out. It's well,

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess we're paying on an annual basis, So yeah,

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>what is the savings that I'm gaining from all of

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>those items? Because those I feel like, oh no, pd powder,

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the pdfit powder. Oh yeah, we also get that there

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>those prices there versus anywhere else. It wouldn't be too

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>difficult of the math problem, And I agree, I think

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I probably would continue to if they doubled it tomorrow,

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I'm in. I probably think we would

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>be too.

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which sounds crazy, But then there are other things

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 2>where you raise it by two bucks and I'm like,

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm out, Like.

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>That, you barely had me to begin with it, right,

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the straw that broke the.

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Camel's back right there. And I think now is actually

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>a good time as any to go through all your

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>subscriptions to your recurring bills and ask yourself, do I

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>still use this service? And I think the reason now

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>is a good time is because it's spring spring cleaning.

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's do the financial spring cleaning thing too, while we're

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 2>also cleaning out our garages and you know, taking out

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>our putting our winter clothes up and getting our summer clothes.

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Out, getting all the pollen off of everything. Oh, it's awful.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>If it's the worst where we are right now, like peak,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>everything's yellow, everything's covered. You know, I will say, okay,

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>here's a quick tip if you have patio furniture. Didn't

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>think i'd be sharing this today, but last year I

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 1>remember being so fed up with the amount of pollen

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>in our screend and patio area which is just surrounded

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>by trees, that I said, you know what, never again.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>It was just so filthy that I purchased brand new. Yes,

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I paid full price off of Amazon. I was not

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>waiting for any sale, but I measured out with the

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>dimensions needed to be to cover our eating area, screen

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and patio as well as the sitting area with TRPs

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>order those have those sitting ready to go. And once

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I realized pollens started ticking up this is like two

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago covered that junk. Oh my gosh, man, it

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>is so wonderful knowing that all I'm going to have

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to do is with Kate grab the corners of that thing,

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>walk outside, probably just rinse it off, I guess. And

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to know that our furniture and our chairs and our

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>table and the side tables and the coffee that it's

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>all going to be completely protected from right down after

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a gross pollen. Yeah, I can't wait. It's I wonder.

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of enjoy seeing it stack up on there

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>because I'm just like, guess who doesn't have to mess

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>with that? Do people in other parts of the country

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what the pollen it's like here, because

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know when you look like a pollen scale,

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>is it's up to like two hundred or something like that.

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>And and truly where we live, the pollen count can

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>be five thousand and so what like it breaks the

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>scale and it's not even last you're I think the

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>high was fourteen thousand or seventeen thousand, so it's completely insane. Yeah,

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that is. I'm not totally sure because we do have

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of trees down here in Atlanta City in

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a forest. Is it like cicadas where other people are like, wait,

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>what what's that sound in the background, Like, Oh, that's

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>just what it sounds like down here. Man. Well okay, so.

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cover your furniture if you live in a pollen

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>prone area, but also renegotiate those bills or cut bills

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>that don't make sense in your life.

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>So I was just thinking, like spring cleaning, that was

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the topic. Clean sprinkleaning your finance.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're if you're internet bill used to be

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>fifty but it crept up to seventy or eighty or

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>something like that. Well, yeah, I know it's not fun

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>to negotiate to try to claw back that money, but

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 2>it's worth the time, right, And I like again used

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Ai typed in a prompt Matt, and it gave me like, hey,

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 2>put this into the chat and you have a really

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>good chance of getting your bill lowered back to what

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 2>it was, getting some sort of like a twelve or

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty four month deal on the price of your internet.

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 2>And so it's it's not that hard to do. I

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>think there's just like a mental block and people are like, well,

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's eighty bucks now, But it doesn't have

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>to be. And so think about what spring cleaning financial

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>tasks you can do. Look at your credit card statement,

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 2>what are we spending money on? Does that still add value?

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Can we get that for a less for a cheaper price?

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's that's just a worthwhile endeavor. I

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>would love to hear. By the way, if you're if

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you are like full board doing some spring cleaning financial tasks,

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>how much money.

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you say? What are some of the biggest wins?

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Let us know what are some of the biggest wins

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and we can share them with share them with the

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 2>rest of the how to Money audience.

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>And renegotiating some of these subs is the perfect activity

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to do during your staycation. Yeah, see, you've got a

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>spring break coming up. Speaking of higher prices, Jill, also

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>mailing packages, it's about to get more expensive because USPS

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>they're raising prices by eight percent on mini packages later

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>this month because of the impact of oil prices. So

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>if you do ship a lot of things via the

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 1>US Postal Service, heads up, I mean it makes sense too.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not like their business model is all that great.

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm actually, I'm told I'm fine with it. Like

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the folks who are using it more charge them. I

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>would rather see that than see the price of stamps

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>increase where it's something that everyone's getting hit with. And

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm also totally fine with smaller increases and receiving like

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>lesser services essentially, you know, like you go into the

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>post office and you're just thinking, man, this place is

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>rough most of the times of the most of the time.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>But I'm and I'm kind of okay with that. I'm

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of okay with us with there being a service

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that isn't like so luxury and so nice. It kind

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of feels, I don't know, that's kind of how I

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>want things to run. It's not fancy, but they get

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>the job done. But for the most part, just talk

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>about cars, because if you purchased a new car recently,

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you were taken back at the cost, because

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the average new car now costs more than fifty thousand dollars,

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>which is insane. But it's not just higher prices, man,

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it's the higher fees that are a problem as well.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.959
<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about the old destination charge that caused

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>buyers to shell out more than twenty six billion dollars

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>last year alone. This so it's a charge that so

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>on average, the destination charge it's sixteen hundred dollars, which

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>is a ton of money, but again kind of makes

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>sense considering that the average new car costs, you know,

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>more than fifty k. But it's meant so this destination

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>charge is meant to cover the cost of shipping the vehicles,

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>which has of course gone up. But it's also easier

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>for car makers to increase this line item, right, like

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>this price, rather than to increase the sticker price of

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:53.439
<v Speaker 1>the vehicles, kind.

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Of like the airline's charging more for bags but not

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>ramping up the price on airfare exactly.

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>So they're a consumer, they quoted in that article, companies

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>are sticking a number in there that they think you'll

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>look past. You can't typically negotiate this fee down, but

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you can negotiat around it by getting a better out

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>the door price essentially. So it's also another great reason

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>just to avoid buying new cars altogether because of all

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>these fees and I don't know, man, Yeah, at the

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>top of the list is the depreciation hit, but then

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you start adding all these fees along with it, and

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it just my disdain for buying new cars is adding

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>all time.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 2>It remains, it remains, it remains. It's more entrench than ever. Yeah,

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and use cars where it's at always will be. Carmacks

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>reports Matt that, speaking of use cars, that EV and

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>hybrid searches have lurched upwards because of rapidly rising gas price.

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I think anybody in their EV is just like looking

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 2>at us, every gas car driver, like we're idiots, like

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 2>we're suckers, and they're so not around us because of

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Georgia state tax, what's it called,

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 2>the state gas tax was repealed for sixty days, right, Yeah,

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 2>so we're paying some of the lowest gas prices in

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 2>the country.

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Thirty three cents cheaper here in Georgia. Yeah. The water's fine. Yeah,

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>if you want to, if you can handle the pollen, guys,

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>come on, the water's just fine. Come on down, move

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>on down. Check out the ATL we hah good beer

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>like fun podcast. So just and if you don't, even

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>if you don't like the ATL you got the burbs,

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that's where we are. Yeah, if you don't if you

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>don't like the burbs, we've got water too. You can

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>head down to Savannah. Yes, we've got Georgia beaches down there. True.

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I find it's awesome. Man. Yeah, it's uh where it's

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>at underrated. Also, great job right here. Yeah.

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, so obviously, low gas prices over the past few

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>years have made EV adoption progress slow dramatically, same with

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the repeal of the federal tax credits. But when gas

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 2>prices arise like thirty five percent in a month, yeah,

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>that creates the shock to the system and a lot

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 2>of people start entertaining the idea of an EV when

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 2>otherwise they were like not interested. So we we obviously

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know how long gas prices are going to remain elevated,

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 2>or how much higher they could go. Still, you know,

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>we just talked about the high cost of buying a

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>new car, the fees involved. Run the numbers about how

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 2>much you could save based on your driving habits. If

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>it's significant, I'd say consider an older, cheaper EV with

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 2>a more limited range, if that works for you. Matt

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I gave the suggestion a few weeks back of those

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 2>old school Nissan leaps. I still see him driving around

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like kind of miss my right. I don't

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>drive very much. I drive so little that gas prices

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>don't really impact me very much.

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I walk everywhere. This is ridiculous, but we're living the life.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>If you are a person. Man, I know somebody I

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>was talking abot Budd yesterday. He was like stuck in

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta traffic for like two and a half hours total, get.

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Into work, and oh my gosh. And and I think, like, man,

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>just an ev, nice quiet EV.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 2>That saves you a lot of money if that's your normal, regular,

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:52.720
<v Speaker 2>every day life, and that that lower range means nobody

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>really wants those cars anyway.

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>So's the super cheap. So the deals are especially if

0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you can like charge it home, charge at work and

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>then come home. I'm like, yeah, that's that's the way

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>to go. Well, and so I've looked into this because you, yeah,

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you did mention this a few weeks back. It's saves

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so much money, dude, And I thought, oh my gosh.

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>And so it's specifically so twenty seventeen is the last

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>year that they made the old model. So that's the

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>model of relief. Yeah, so that's that's the one that

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>looks like yours. It's a little more like hashback ye ye. Looking.

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>It's also the last year that they had the first

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>gen battery. So if you have a twenty seventeen or older,

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>like you can get those for crazy cheap like two

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>three grand. Yes, a lot of them still have amount

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 1>of a good amount of what do you call it

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:40.959
<v Speaker 1>mileage or distance on the battery range. That being said,

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>if you you're taking a bit of a gamble, yeah,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you are, especially in the winter, especially if you're doing

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>higher speed driving, but even in the next year. Twenty

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>eighteen is when they've changed, when they changed the body style,

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's a second gen battery that is much much better.

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>So basically you get a twenty eighteen or newer and

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>essentially you're gonna be able have that car for I

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>mean that battery is gonna last the life of the

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>car for how much more to the twenty eight it's

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.760
<v Speaker 1>about double, So you're looking at around like eight thousand

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>dollars still, which is crazy affordable for something that's gonna

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>cost you virtually nothing to run an energy costs. Yeah,

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>So if you're the kind of pert and I think

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 1>most people overestimate how much money they spend in gas

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>every month or again. We've talked about this, just the

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>emotional reality of seeing the price of the pump and

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>being like, ah, this cost me seventy dollars when it

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>used to cost me forty five, and that is that

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>is frustrating. But how often are you filling up? Like,

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>actually look at the numbers and then say, well, just

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>buying a three thousand dollars car or an eight thousand

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars car make a lot of sense because guess what,

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna save that in gas in like a year

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and a half. Like if that's you, then man, I'd

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>be jumping on that.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>It could be worth Don't don't make don't make it

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.280
<v Speaker 2>out to be like I got to get the ribbon

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<v Speaker 1>It's for the gas, is exactly Yeah, just rolling around exactly. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've set my sights on, you know, and I've set

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<v Speaker 1>my sights on all the coffee stuff. It's that a spread,

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<v Speaker 1>make it that? Yeah, the espresso maker is is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the espresso machine is my Rivian equivalent. Well it looks

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