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Speaker 1: offense homes what kind of reporter.
Speaker 7: Were you doing those media days? You weren't the guy
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Speaker 7: wacky question, were you, Darren? Come on?
Speaker 8: No, And in fact that only got worse as I
Speaker 8: I mean it was, it was just in its I
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Speaker 1: I think it peaked a few years later, and it's
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Speaker 8: In like the mid aughts, I would say, is when
Speaker 8: it got really really bad. But yeah, there's plenty of that,
Speaker 8: and I was trying to do regular stories on those
Speaker 8: media days and it wasn't easy.
Speaker 7: See, I'm trying to remember Super Bowl thirty sun Devil Stadium,
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Speaker 7: Troy Aikman and Michael Urha'm trying to remember if there
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Speaker 7: craziness and insanity whatever doesn't matter right now. Right here
Speaker 7: in the Red Sea, Darren Ermanizzio, there are two kinds
Speaker 7: of people and only two those who would draft a
Speaker 7: receiver number four and those who would not winch Camp
Speaker 7: are you in?
Speaker 8: I'm not ruling it out, but and I know people
Speaker 8: hate it when they asked me my questions because they
Speaker 8: all want black and white. But I'm just I'm not
Speaker 8: a black and white type of answer giver.
Speaker 7: But you get a lot of those questions in the
Speaker 7: mailbag these days, right, But.
Speaker 8: Like, I don't think the Cardinals have made that decision,
Speaker 8: So how would I you know?
Speaker 2: For me?
Speaker 1: There's so much that goes into it.
Speaker 8: I mean, they haven't had a chance to talk to
Speaker 8: all these players individually as much as they want. Obviously
Speaker 8: they've done a lot of the scouting, but we know
Speaker 8: what kind of players they are. We don't know what
Speaker 8: they're what they're going to address in free agency. We
Speaker 8: don't know exactly how they feel about Let's take Harrison.
Speaker 7: For examples, JR.
Speaker 8: If you think he's a next level type of talent
Speaker 8: more so than some of these other receivers, I understand
Speaker 8: why you want to get it, but we don't know
Speaker 8: how they've interpreted it. And there are people out there
Speaker 8: that see Harrison and a couple of these other receivers
Speaker 8: really close. And if that's the case, I don't know
Speaker 8: if I'm willing to burn the fourth pick on that
Speaker 8: or whether I might want to trade down before I
Speaker 8: make a pick. And you know, there's a lot that
Speaker 8: goes involved with when you're picking at four. It's great
Speaker 8: because you get a great player, you should get a
Speaker 8: great player. But when you're picking at four, there's also
Speaker 8: pressure to make sure you pick a great player, and
Speaker 8: oftentimes you're kind of forced to go in only a
Speaker 8: couple different directions because your needs might not line up
Speaker 8: with like there's it doesn't seem like, for instance, there
Speaker 8: is a cornerback that is worth the fourth overall pick.
Speaker 8: Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe they'll see it differently, but
Speaker 8: that's obviously something they need. But they're not gonna be
Speaker 8: able to take a cornerback there. So then you have
Speaker 8: one less position you're looking at.
Speaker 7: Look, if the game is won in the trenches, then
Speaker 7: okay to me, that's where the top five. Look, it's
Speaker 7: either quarterback, get to the quarterback, protect the quarterback. Now,
Speaker 7: if you're going to give the quarterback wide receiver one
Speaker 7: if dare we say you're going to give the quarterback
Speaker 7: a Hall of Fame receiver, a first ballot guy like
Speaker 7: a Larry Fitzgerald, then absolutely Marvin Harrison Junior is your
Speaker 7: guy at number four. That is the question. Is he
Speaker 7: that guy? And we pose that question of Frank Sanders
Speaker 7: on just that conundrum. Do you draft a receiver including
Speaker 7: Marvin Harrison Junior number four?
Speaker 9: Overall?
Speaker 7: This was last week in the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 10: They're three or four receivers right now on the top
Speaker 10: of the list that just makes your heart melt. They're
Speaker 10: all six foot three, six foot four, tall, lanky, rangey
Speaker 10: guys with arms. You know, they can make all kind
Speaker 10: of plays from the one step hits to you know,
Speaker 10: throwing the ball down the field, not afraid to go
Speaker 10: across the middle. And Marvin Harrison would be something that
Speaker 10: you just would love to have, especially because you know
Speaker 10: this could be, you know, another dreaded hair situation. Like
Speaker 10: Larry Fitzgerald, a guy that runs all around. He's got
Speaker 10: speed quality on every area from the outside to the inside.
Speaker 10: He's knowledgeable as a receiver, so you're winning that area.
Speaker 10: But I will add this in, there are a lot
Speaker 10: of receivers out there and that can make plays that
Speaker 10: if you can steal him in the draft, between the third, fourth,
Speaker 10: and fifth round. That's gonna be absolutely helpful to Kyle.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's Frank Sanders once again, former Cardinals receiver. Don't
Speaker 7: make me break out the list of all the Pro
Speaker 7: Bowl and all Pro receivers this year who are not
Speaker 7: taking in round one. But once again it's a persistent
Speaker 7: question you're getting in the mail background.
Speaker 8: Well, it's funny because I did get a question in
Speaker 8: this past week on Easycardinals dot com and the question was,
Speaker 8: and thankfully it was, if you can guarantee that you
Speaker 8: were getting a Pro Bowl guarantee now Pro Bowl talent
Speaker 8: at the fourth pick for the next five years, what
Speaker 8: positions would you want it to be at. So he's
Speaker 8: not saying Harrison's your guy, he's saying, if you could
Speaker 8: guarantee that who it is. And the bottom line is,
Speaker 8: if you're talking about not names, and you're you're posing
Speaker 8: it like that wide receivers not in that list, it
Speaker 8: would be it would be a cornerback, it would be
Speaker 8: a tackle, and it would probably be an edge rusher,
Speaker 8: maybe an interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: But you wouldn't say receiver like that.
Speaker 7: And once again, if there was a Sauce Gardener there
Speaker 7: at number four like a couple of years ago. Absolutely,
Speaker 7: if but Miles Garrett was there, you know, the edge
Speaker 7: rusher extraordinary, then absolutely, But that guy seemingly is not
Speaker 7: there at number four. And if quarterbacks are going one, two, three,
Speaker 7: like most mock drafts say, then okay, what do you
Speaker 7: do if you're the Cardinals. Here's Roy Green, the legend
Speaker 7: Ring of Honor member, also a guy who wore number
Speaker 7: eighty one right and big time receiver and Cardinals history.
Speaker 7: And we asked him this week on the Red Sea
Speaker 7: Report on receiver versus other positions.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I think there's a couple more guys I want to
Speaker 11: grab before getting the receiver.
Speaker 1: But that's just me talking. Prior to the season, we say.
Speaker 11: Hey, we need a defensive tackle, a dominant defensive Lindman,
Speaker 11: We've always talked about where's that cornerback going to be?
Speaker 11: Where is that guy that we have? We haven't had
Speaker 11: those guys. You know, if we want to go where
Speaker 11: we want to be in my opinion, to be in
Speaker 11: those playoffs next year, you know, those some things we
Speaker 11: have to address.
Speaker 7: That is Roy Green this week on the Red Sea Report. Now, look,
Speaker 7: I was arguing with Wolf and I contended, and this
Speaker 7: really wasn't a hot take. I think I honestly believe
Speaker 7: this is that if Marvin Harrison Junior is drafted before
Speaker 7: the Cardinals selected four, that could be a best case scenario.
Speaker 7: That means one of those top three quarterbacks falls and then,
Speaker 7: for example, you could cash that in. You could leverage
Speaker 7: a team's dire need for a quarterback at number four
Speaker 7: and trade with Atlanta and go down to eight for example,
Speaker 7: still get one of those top tackles. Daniel Jeremia put
Speaker 7: out his eight of his top seventeen prospects are tackles,
Speaker 7: so it's very deep, whether it's at eight, for example,
Speaker 7: or if you your second first round pick and number
Speaker 7: twenty seven.
Speaker 8: I'll be honest, I would be surprised if that scenario
Speaker 8: falls to the Cardinals. And this is why, because if
Speaker 8: you're one of those top three teams and you're not
Speaker 8: taking a quarterback, you're the team making the trade, and
Speaker 8: Harrison is probably going to be on the board.
Speaker 1: That would be, my.
Speaker 7: Guess, possible, no doubt, But we've seen teams like Atlanta
Speaker 7: go for a tight end at number four. Kyle Pitts
Speaker 7: a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Ago and would they do that over if they could? Oh,
Speaker 1: yes you would.
Speaker 7: Well you think so, Kyle Pitts really top five? You
Speaker 7: think they do that over again?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. And I'm not saying he's not a
Speaker 1: great talent.
Speaker 8: But you got Drake London the next year, and if
Speaker 8: you could have been in a situation where you had
Speaker 8: I mean, their offensive line has been okay. Like again,
Speaker 8: maybe it changes now that they've got Raheem Morrison there,
Speaker 8: and maybe.
Speaker 1: If they get the right quarterback. But see, the Atlanta's
Speaker 1: problem is they I don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 7: And once again, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's Minnesota, whether
Speaker 7: it's the Raiders, there are teams in the middle of
Speaker 7: the first round and you wonder how poised are they,
Speaker 7: how willing are they to give up the farm to
Speaker 7: come up and get Jane Daniels. The other scenario I
Speaker 7: talked about was, Okay, you're looking at that one quarterback
Speaker 7: rising a year ago as Anthony Richardson all the way
Speaker 7: up to number four. Could it be Michael Pennix Junior?
Speaker 7: Could it be bow Nicks? Maybe just maybe after you're
Speaker 7: done with the combine and the pro days, and seemingly
Speaker 7: there's always that one guy every single year they joined
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Speaker 7: Azycardinals dot com slash priority list. All right, what does
Speaker 7: a former NFL quarterback think about all this drafting a receiver?
Speaker 7: What does he think about? Kyler Murray Drew Stanton? Next
Speaker 7: on the big red rage.
Speaker 5: Stanton's got the ball, short set, stands with the pocket,
Speaker 5: throws deep nearside, going for John Brown. He caught it
Speaker 5: to the end zone. Touchdown.
Speaker 4: John Brown second NFL today.
Speaker 2: Wide open, running a corner round in a great breath
Speaker 2: by Drew Stanton.
Speaker 4: Snapped to Stanton short set, pops right now, throws meddle
Speaker 4: for Brown, caught at the end zone, touchdown, a laser
Speaker 4: by Stanton. John Brown second score of the game, third
Speaker 4: on the year, and the Cardinals lay and.
Speaker 2: Drew Stanton with another laser beam.
Speaker 7: There you go, Darren Irman, See that's another receiver I
Speaker 7: need to add to my working list over here. Big
Speaker 7: time dynamic receivers not drafted on Day one Round one.
Speaker 7: John Brown back in the day as we interrupt the
Speaker 7: NonStop offseason and post playing career of a former Cardinals quarterback.
Speaker 7: Who I mean we need to tap into all that
Speaker 7: NFL knowledge that people need to hear. Right, fans demand
Speaker 7: Drew stand and he is our guest here on the
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Speaker 7: are Santane Ford Drew. How you holding up these days?
Speaker 9: I'm doing great things. I don't know how demand and
Speaker 9: demand I really am, but I appreciate.
Speaker 10: The lead them.
Speaker 8: I do have to ask this question, is I'm listening
Speaker 8: to the I mean, we're just hearing these sounders, like
Speaker 8: we hear all these play by play sounders. Obviously we're
Speaker 8: never going to get a chance to hear one about us.
Speaker 8: Like when you're listening to that, do you like go
Speaker 8: back in your head of those plays or is it
Speaker 8: all just mush?
Speaker 1: Sometimes in terms of no, it's not much for me.
Speaker 9: I only had so many good plays. So I love
Speaker 9: her John Brown, so I can tell you know, like
Speaker 9: I love hearing those highlights and being able to do it.
Speaker 9: So you know, those were good times and good memories
Speaker 9: and again, such a great experience I had being a
Speaker 9: part of the Arizona Cardinals organization for five years.
Speaker 7: You're not like one of those Sean mcvays. Though. If
Speaker 7: I say, you know, twenty thirteen, Week eleven, third quarter
Speaker 7: on third and seven, like you don't remember the play call?
Speaker 7: You can't go that in depth, can you?
Speaker 10: No, I wasn't a caller. I can tell.
Speaker 9: I mean, I can go back to different situations and
Speaker 9: different things of what happened, transpired or different. You know,
Speaker 9: for instance, right the whole Justin Tucker situation that came up,
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, where he was, you know, doing his little
Speaker 9: warm up that happened in Philly to us with Donnie Jones.
Speaker 9: He was punting and Eric Winston kicked the.
Speaker 10: Ball back at him, and I was like, that's.
Speaker 9: One guy that I probably wouldn't try to mess with it.
Speaker 9: And we were trying to warm up and do all
Speaker 9: that stuff and whatnot. So again, you see all these things,
Speaker 9: and you remember those type of things probably more than
Speaker 9: anything as opposed to third and three in the third quarter,
Speaker 9: Week three.
Speaker 7: All right, lo, look, Drew Standers, our guest, former Cardinals quarterback,
Speaker 7: and if my memory serves, when the Cardinals hired Drew
Speaker 7: Pats and his offensive coordinator you cited the run game,
Speaker 7: and sure enough, by the end of the season, the
Speaker 7: Airzona Cardinals finished fourth in rushing yards per game, second
Speaker 7: in rushing yards per carry, and first in twenty plus
Speaker 7: yard runs. How impressive was the Cardinals run game before
Speaker 7: we getting into Kyler and the rest of the offense.
Speaker 9: It was very impressive, right, But that's again you stick
Speaker 9: with what you know, and he came from an unbelievable
Speaker 9: system in Cleveland and understanding, hey, we have to establish
Speaker 9: the run. Kevin Stefanski tries to protect the football. He
Speaker 9: utilizes the run to set up play action and then
Speaker 9: push the ball down the field, much like we saw
Speaker 9: with Cleveland in the past, and that's their identity. So
Speaker 9: you stick with what you know and you find ways
Speaker 9: to make it work. And it was very impressive because
Speaker 9: you know, as well noted as everything is in the NFL,
Speaker 9: the teams that can establish the run and stop the run,
Speaker 9: those are the teams with the most success year in
Speaker 9: and year out, week in and week out, and we
Speaker 9: saw that pick up to the latter part of the season,
Speaker 9: which is super encouraging because a guy like James Connor
Speaker 9: that can carry that kind of a load to be
Speaker 9: able to do it in the run and pass key
Speaker 9: to defenses off balance.
Speaker 8: Well, we're just going to say that's a great segue
Speaker 8: right there, Drew, because I want to then ask if
Speaker 8: if that becomes an identity and they did it so well.
Speaker 8: When we start talking about this first pick at and
Speaker 8: there's so much talk about Marvin Harrison or another receiver,
Speaker 8: like kind of what is your thought process on that
Speaker 8: early pick and the talent that might be at the
Speaker 8: top of the draft and what you think could happen,
Speaker 8: what should happen.
Speaker 9: Well, I think when you have a generational talent that
Speaker 9: comes along like Marvin Harrison, and I know that there's
Speaker 9: a lot of great wide receivers that are for being
Speaker 9: the first tick off the board for wide receiver position.
Speaker 9: But I just I saw the guy play in person.
Speaker 9: I've seen him and know people that know him extremely well.
Speaker 9: In the pedigree. I mean, you look at if you
Speaker 9: were going to make a wide receiver on and off
Speaker 9: the field, just how he carries himself, all of those things.
Speaker 9: Because when you're investing in the top five pick in
Speaker 9: somebody you can't miss, you cannot miss, and you can't say, man,
Speaker 9: I didn't understand that and I look at that, and
Speaker 9: obviously I'm biased from a quarterback position, but when you
Speaker 9: have a number one, a true number one wide receiver
Speaker 9: that you can get, I don't think you passed that up.
Speaker 9: Now I was wrong to the last year. I would
Speaker 9: have taken will Anderson knowing what I know. But at
Speaker 9: the same time, you get a chance to trade back,
Speaker 9: you get parashaulphin junior. He has a great, great rookie season,
Speaker 9: and rightfully so, as you're saying, okay, now we're moving
Speaker 9: forward with Kyler as our franchise quarterback, we need to
Speaker 9: be able to protect him, and so you invest in
Speaker 9: the offensive line. Now, what's another way of investing in
Speaker 9: Kyler Murray is you go out and you get a
Speaker 9: bona fide superstar to be able to roam outside and
Speaker 9: it doesn't matter if he has single coverage or double coverage.
Speaker 9: That are where it leads into it with the run game,
Speaker 9: those can marry it up and then you're going to
Speaker 9: see single highest safety where you have the opportunity to
Speaker 9: get one on ones on the outside.
Speaker 8: It's interesting that you bring up the fact that Marvin
Speaker 8: is what you would want on the field and off
Speaker 8: the field, because I feel like a top five pick
Speaker 8: you said you can't miss.
Speaker 1: I think that's part.
Speaker 8: Of the equation is because that person inevitably is going
Speaker 8: to be one of the faces of the franchise. And
Speaker 8: obviously we saw it with Fits for so many years
Speaker 8: where he was an ambassador not just with what he
Speaker 8: was doing on the field, but because of how he
Speaker 8: was off it. Obviously, I would think ownership would love
Speaker 8: that here if they when they go through the process,
Speaker 8: they find out about Harrison or any player quite frankly.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's the other side of the coin
Speaker 9: that you try to get as much information as you can.
Speaker 9: You see what you see on film, You assess what's
Speaker 9: on film. But when you're invested in the top five
Speaker 9: taking somebody, you better make sure that you know everything
Speaker 9: possible about them, because again, you're looking to be able
Speaker 9: to strike gold with somebody like Larry Fitzgerald. They can
Speaker 9: become a cornerstone or a pillar that you are sitting
Speaker 9: there trying to build around, and you just say, Okay,
Speaker 9: we're good, We're set at wide receiver for now on.
Speaker 9: And everybody's still quarterback crazy, right. You're starting to see
Speaker 9: all of these people trying to trade up or do
Speaker 9: different stuff, especially for the quarterback position. So to be
Speaker 9: sitting at number four, it's a very good position to
Speaker 9: be in because to me, you're looking for somebody that's
Speaker 9: going to be a ten year type of guy that
Speaker 9: you can plug and play and not have to look back.
Speaker 9: And Marvin Harrison, in my opinion, again, is that of
Speaker 9: a guy.
Speaker 7: Former Cardinals quarterback Drew Stan our guest on the Big
Speaker 7: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert former Lions
Speaker 7: quarterback Drew stan The reason I bring that up is
Speaker 7: if you're telling me Marvin Harrison juniors an nex, Larry
Speaker 7: Fitzgerald or a first bout Hall of famer, absolutely run
Speaker 7: the card up to the podium, I get it. My
Speaker 7: hesitation is the Lions for many years took a lot
Speaker 7: of receivers top ten and they whiffed. But then they
Speaker 7: finally hit on a Hall of Famer in Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 7: It really didn't change their fortunes very much. And you
Speaker 7: only see a Lions team now competing for the Super
Speaker 7: Bowl after they addressed the line of scrimmage. So I
Speaker 7: guess I'm just wondering if indeed, MANI Austin Ford is
Speaker 7: going to go a similar direction to which the Lions
Speaker 7: just did.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, look, you look at that offensive line
Speaker 9: and you could take the other side of the coin
Speaker 9: and say, okay, well, if you're the Cincinnati Bengals and
Speaker 9: you have Jamar Chase, that's great, but your quarterback couldn't
Speaker 9: finish the season and you had a chance to draft
Speaker 9: toiney Sewell, so what are you thinking now saying, man,
Speaker 9: I wish I had that Pro Bowl left tackle and
Speaker 9: we could have made do with the other wide receivers
Speaker 9: in the room because the quarterback can't throw from his back,
Speaker 9: and that's the thing that you have to assess and say, Okay,
Speaker 9: where does DJ fit in this equation as we move forward?
Speaker 9: We know he have Paris Johnson Jr. Do we look
Speaker 9: for again? We saw the risk of taking a guard
Speaker 9: Jonathan Cooper. I could tell you was an absolutely amazing,
Speaker 9: amazing prospect coming out and unfortunately one injury because he's
Speaker 9: so athletic in ten yards downfield puts himself in a
Speaker 9: position where he snaps his leg and nember the same
Speaker 9: player again, So do you invest that in the guard?
Speaker 9: A center? Too high of a pick? So where are
Speaker 9: you looking at that you can get difference makers. And
Speaker 9: again I think you assess what you see and not
Speaker 9: only the wide receiver position, but you feel really good
Speaker 9: about Trey McBride. And so when you can control the
Speaker 9: outside and the inside part of the field, you're going
Speaker 9: to be able to just help your quarterback that much more.
Speaker 7: Trey McBride, what sort of weapon is he? We see
Speaker 7: all the tight ends who advanced so deep in the playoffs.
Speaker 7: Roy Jetstering Green on the Red Sea Report this week,
Speaker 7: he said, you know, the tight ends are uncoverable because
Speaker 7: they're too big for a corner or a dB, and
Speaker 7: they're too fast and skilled for a linebacker. I mean,
Speaker 7: what do you think the upside in future holds for
Speaker 7: Trey McBride.
Speaker 9: I think the upside is tremendous. That's why they felt good,
Speaker 9: you know, about letting zach Ertz go, and that's why
Speaker 9: Steve Kim in that regime wanted to draft him. He
Speaker 9: was the first title off the board. So we shouldn't
Speaker 9: be surprised of what we're seeing. And I think truly
Speaker 9: this system fits him better now than Cliff's system. And
Speaker 9: you see that because he can play in line, he
Speaker 9: can do different stuff. He can set up stuff off
Speaker 9: of play action or you feel good about splitting the mountain.
Speaker 9: And again, that's just kind of the trend of the
Speaker 9: NFL at this point or has been for the last decade,
Speaker 9: is finding guys that can put their hand in there,
Speaker 9: be serviceable blockers, but then be a complete mismatch when
Speaker 9: it comes to the pass game, because he said, how
Speaker 9: do you match up in personnel? And every team tries
Speaker 9: to do it differently, and some teams do it better
Speaker 9: than others. But but you're going to have to allegate
Speaker 9: somebody to him to try to stop him. And if
Speaker 9: those guys are really good, the Travis Kelcey's, the George
Speaker 9: Kittles of the world, give them options, you give them
Speaker 9: multiple ways to go. They're going to beat you and
Speaker 9: find a ways to win.
Speaker 8: Okay, So we've talked about the running game and the
Speaker 8: receivers and maybe the offensive line and tight end, so
Speaker 8: we dial it back to the quarterback where it starts.
Speaker 8: You know, it felt like there were some bumps, like
Speaker 8: Jonathan Gannon said, there were going to be when he
Speaker 8: first returned from the ACL, but it did feel like
Speaker 8: Kyler was trending up in the right direction. By the end,
Speaker 8: it looked like he was getting more and more comfortable
Speaker 8: under center and running the petsing offense, and I can
Speaker 8: understand why they have high hopes for him. What did
Speaker 8: you see in terms of his eight games and where
Speaker 8: he might be going.
Speaker 9: I saw a guy that started to understand situational football.
Speaker 10: Really.
Speaker 9: I mean that's the biggest thing that I think we
Speaker 9: would sit there and scratch ahead at times in Cliff
Speaker 9: system where they'd take a shot on third and two
Speaker 9: and be like, well, why don't they just throw it underneath,
Speaker 9: or you know, live to see another down and throw
Speaker 9: the ball away. Hey it's a red zone, we're okay
Speaker 9: kicking a field goal here, or knowing all those things
Speaker 9: the game within the game, and I think that comes
Speaker 9: a lot of different way. I think when you take
Speaker 9: away the fact that he had to sit and watch
Speaker 9: this system and learn it from the sideline and then
Speaker 9: go out and try to implement it, that's a huge
Speaker 9: advantage because his whole life he's always been the starting quarterback.
Speaker 9: He's learned on the fly, on the job, and so
Speaker 9: being able to kind of peel back those layers and say, hey,
Speaker 9: this is why we're under center here, this is why
Speaker 9: we're in this formation expecting this kind of coverage that
Speaker 9: setting it up with this, This is why we're shifting
Speaker 9: and motioning and getting into these different things, and we
Speaker 9: can marry it up with it. And then the light
Speaker 9: bulb comes on and you all of a sudden, Yes,
Speaker 9: he is as good of an athlete as there is
Speaker 9: at that position in the NFL. But playing quarterback is
Speaker 9: far more than just being a great athlete. And I
Speaker 9: know that I can't remember what the status Wolf probably
Speaker 9: knows it. But however, many times when Kyler ran or
Speaker 9: had rush attempts in the game, they were going to win,
Speaker 9: and I was like, that doesn't mean anything, because there's
Speaker 9: no longevity in that for quarterbacks in the NFL, and
Speaker 9: you've got to be able to do that. And I
Speaker 9: think Kyler has the ability to change pace on his throats.
Speaker 9: He understands how the layer throws in, he understands she
Speaker 9: understands all of these things. But being able to be
Speaker 9: under center, being comfortable in that, and truly playing quarterback
Speaker 9: as opposed to being an athlete playing quarterback and turn
Speaker 9: it in the backyard football at times, I think that's
Speaker 9: where you start to see some of these things and
Speaker 9: the excitement for next year is really on the horizon.
Speaker 7: How big a deal is it. He'll be able to
Speaker 7: have an entire offseason with his receivers unlike a year ago.
Speaker 7: We always hear about that cohesion and chemistry and being
Speaker 7: and saying how real is that?
Speaker 9: I think it's very, very real from the standpoint that
Speaker 9: you have to sit back and say, Okay, well, yeah,
Speaker 9: everybody runs a curl, everyone runs a slant, everybody runs
Speaker 9: a go ball or a post or any of these routes.
Speaker 9: There's only so many routes that you can run. But
Speaker 9: at the same time, the detail of those routes matter immensely,
Speaker 9: the feel of those guys. Just like the lead that
Speaker 9: we heard about John Brown running his corner route. You
Speaker 9: knew that Brown was going to come out of his break.
Speaker 9: He was going to stick his foot on the ground
Speaker 9: and you had to put it out there. You could
Speaker 9: not underthrow him because he was going to be so
Speaker 9: far down the field. Other guys just have a different field.
Speaker 9: Michael Floyd, I had to throw the ball a little
Speaker 9: bit different to him, understand how he was coming out
Speaker 9: of his break. I just had to get it close
Speaker 9: to Larry and he was going to catch it with
Speaker 9: made me feel really good. So all of these guys
Speaker 9: are completely different on how they do stuff. And that's
Speaker 9: what the off season really is for. Right you look
Speaker 9: at the phases and whatnot, and that phase two situation
Speaker 9: operation of on the field give it a chance to
Speaker 9: walk through and talk through and run through routes. That
Speaker 9: that is where you get the opportunity to really get guys.
Speaker 10: So when you get into a.
Speaker 9: Weekly game prep or anything in the regular season, it's say, hey,
Speaker 9: remember this in training camp or go back and watch
Speaker 9: this in training camp. We had this concept in versus
Speaker 9: this coverage that we're anticipating seeing, so we can get
Speaker 9: to it and it becomes second nature. And that's just
Speaker 9: developed over time. That's through repetitions. As you're talking about, Paul.
Speaker 7: All right down the stretch, we come with Drew stand
Speaker 7: former Cardinals quarterback, on the Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 7: Santan Ford and Gilbert. I don't know if there's one
Speaker 7: thing that stands out to you as a key to
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl fifty eight, But let me ask you
Speaker 7: about the experience factor at quarterback. Patrick Mahome fourth and
Speaker 7: five years, brock Perty's in year number two obviously never
Speaker 7: been there, and done that. You're around Tom Brady a
Speaker 7: few years ago, super Bowl week, just the whole experience
Speaker 7: factor at quarterback. How big a difference is that going
Speaker 7: to be?
Speaker 9: You think, well, I think it's big for a few reasons.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 9: Obviously, they have a schedule set up and Patrick will
Speaker 9: just say, you know, this is what we're doing, and
Speaker 9: everybody follows. Suit I saw that firstand as he talked
Speaker 9: about with Tom Brady. But Kyle Shanahan's been in a
Speaker 9: super Bowl before. He was leading immensely in a super
Speaker 9: Bowl before, so he knows what that preparation looks like
Speaker 9: from an offensive standpoint, and I'm sure they've had a
Speaker 9: lot of communication. He's running the ship and there's nothing
Speaker 9: wrong with that. This first time around for Block Party,
Speaker 9: it's okay for him to be comfortable and say, you
Speaker 9: know what, I'm not going to pretend that I don't
Speaker 9: know what I don't know. And that takes maturity, That
Speaker 9: takes somebody that's very comfortable with who they are. And
Speaker 9: as much criticism as he's gotten all year, he's very
Speaker 9: comfortable with who he is and he understands the skill
Speaker 9: set that he has around them. He understands all of
Speaker 9: these things and one of these things. But my biggest
Speaker 9: piece of advice to him would just be, you know what,
Speaker 9: once he kicked that ball off, it's just football. You
Speaker 9: can't win the game in the first half as the
Speaker 9: Detroit Lions. Now you've got to go out and play
Speaker 9: four quarters.
Speaker 7: Drew, we really enjoyed it, some great insight.
Speaker 8: We're also going to get more of your clips going.
Speaker 8: We're just gonna listen to Drew stan highlights all afternoon.
Speaker 9: Yeah, get all eight of them out.
Speaker 10: Ash has a couple of ones.
Speaker 9: I've heard some other ones too when I was with
Speaker 9: the Lion about Old Wolf. So you know, all of
Speaker 9: them are good.
Speaker 7: Hey, and all those parents right you're coaching their kids.
Speaker 7: Tell their parents to appreciate the fact they have a
Speaker 7: long time NFL quarterback as their kids head coach. All right,
Speaker 7: appreciate it, Drew, thank you? All right, there you go, man, Yep,
Speaker 7: Drew stand former Cardinals quarterback, our guest on The Big
Speaker 7: Red Rage. I'll tell you what we'll come back. We'll
Speaker 7: talk about Cardinals free agency, needs, wants, what's feasible and
Speaker 7: doable all coming up next in The Big Red Rage
Speaker 7: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 2: Kaiser White just set the tempo for everybody out on
Speaker 2: this field right now between the White Liones.
Speaker 5: What are you going to do about A message has
Speaker 5: been sent?
Speaker 2: What is that message, David, that.
Speaker 5: Messages we will fight you. And Kaiser White's a thumber.
Speaker 2: He has been all over the field and he is
Speaker 2: a physical guy as well.
Speaker 5: Kaizer White White turned down the Jets to get to
Speaker 5: the quarterback. Yeah, Kaiser White and run flying in there
Speaker 5: at the end is Kaizer White.
Speaker 2: It's a culture of physicality, is what this is about.
Speaker 5: He's a very physical player and one of the reasons
Speaker 5: why the Cardinals wanted to bring him over when Jonathan
Speaker 5: Gannon got the job. What a big play by Kaizer White.
Speaker 2: Kaiser White getting off an awful lot of blocks right
Speaker 2: now and making tackles.
Speaker 5: Hit and sacked by Kisier White.
Speaker 2: Kaizer White manhunter, track and bag, Kaizer White.
Speaker 7: Passion Wolf. That was just from week one and two.
Speaker 7: When you got to you know it and the Cardinals
Speaker 7: new right away, you know what. Kaiser White is a
Speaker 7: legit Mike linebacker. Not just the plays he made, but
Speaker 7: his ability to get the play called, to make the checks,
Speaker 7: get everyone in the right position for a defense to
Speaker 7: play fast, played with some nasty I mean it was
Speaker 7: early in that season opener at Washington he started, he
Speaker 7: started a fight on the sideline with that physical hit.
Speaker 7: I mean so right away, no doubt he didn't make
Speaker 7: a statement. And we'll see if the Cardinals are going
Speaker 7: to do something similar once free agency begins. It is
Speaker 7: the big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 7: We are santan Ford, Darren Urban and for Ron Wolfley
Speaker 7: and really Kaiser White would be the big name, would
Speaker 7: be the big signing from a year ago. How much
Speaker 7: bigger do you think it gets this year in free
Speaker 7: agency with some forty two million or so available under
Speaker 7: the cap. Now that Mantia support Johnathan Gannon know what
Speaker 7: they have, they have a better understanding of what they
Speaker 7: need in free agency.
Speaker 8: I think there's a chance there could be a splash
Speaker 8: signing or two. I don't know if if Monty's the
Speaker 8: type of guy that's going to top the market with
Speaker 8: the splashiest signing. And I'm very curious to see who
Speaker 8: is available at the positions they so desperately need, especially
Speaker 8: on defense, defensive line, edge rusher, cornerback. If any of
Speaker 8: those things are there, especially when we sit here, and
Speaker 8: I mean we just earlier in the show, we're talking
Speaker 8: about the draft, Paul and what might be available at four,
Speaker 8: and I think you need to keep.
Speaker 1: That in mind.
Speaker 8: Okay, if you're thinking to yourself that cornerback may or
Speaker 8: may not be there at four, it could be there
Speaker 8: at twenty seven. Tackles are deep, Like, I think there's
Speaker 8: some positions you might want to look at in free
Speaker 8: agency to try and get to bolst of those early,
Speaker 8: because you're not one hundred percent sure you're going to
Speaker 8: be able to get a blue chipper in the draft.
Speaker 7: No doubt. Look, you know there might be a corner
Speaker 7: like Terry and Arnold of Alabama who has the size,
Speaker 7: has the skill set, the athleticism. We'll see. You don't
Speaker 7: truly know what the Cardinals warroom thinks is someone like that?
Speaker 7: But would he be someone at number four? So when
Speaker 7: I say you might trade out from four down to eight,
Speaker 7: or dare I see even down to Vegas at thirteen
Speaker 7: or Minnesota at eleven, you know, maybe you still target
Speaker 7: the corner at that point because there don't seem to
Speaker 7: be a ton of free agent corners available, and you
Speaker 7: don't just need one, you probably need two. In terms
Speaker 7: of defensive linemen, though, there are some names. For example,
Speaker 7: Chris Jones, according to all reports, will be playing his
Speaker 7: last game as a Kansas City Chief. Remember they had
Speaker 7: the whole contract stalemate that caused him to miss the
Speaker 7: first game. And then you have other guys who are
Speaker 7: tracking towards free agency Pro Bowlers like Baltimore's Justin Matdabweke,
Speaker 7: Jonathan Greener to Houston, Demnil Hunter of Minnesota, you know,
Speaker 7: Christian Wilkins, a lot of speculation out of Miami what
Speaker 7: exactly they are going to do. They're Chase Young, who
Speaker 7: really needs to rebound after the NFC Championship game. He
Speaker 7: appears to be hitting the open market. So to me,
Speaker 7: if there's big money on a big name, I'm guessing
Speaker 7: it'll come at defensive line, just because there seems to
Speaker 7: be more support then maybe demand this year.
Speaker 8: I would agree, And I think those are some fascinating names.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think you want to be smart, you know,
Speaker 8: I do think the Cardinals are in a position where
Speaker 8: they could challenge for a playoff spot next year if
Speaker 8: they do things everything right in this offseason. But I
Speaker 8: think the defense has to get a lot better, and
Speaker 8: you got to be careful. Are you going to hand
Speaker 8: out a four or five year deal to a guy
Speaker 8: who's twenty eight to twenty nine years old. I mean
Speaker 8: that's I think that's got to make you pause a
Speaker 8: little bit, depending on how big the deal is.
Speaker 7: For example, Daniel Hunter aged twenty nine and he just
Speaker 7: had a career year sixteen and a half sacks and
Speaker 7: he led the NFL with twenty three tackles for loss.
Speaker 7: Jonathan Greener career year, had a career high in sacks
Speaker 7: twelve and a half for Houston. Mattabike, right, he just
Speaker 7: had a breakout season, went to the Pro Bowl. And
Speaker 7: it can't help but remind you of a lesson learned
Speaker 7: with Jordan Phillips a few years ago, who had a
Speaker 7: breakout contract year for the Bills, came to the Cardinals
Speaker 7: big money. Thankfully it was only a two year deal
Speaker 7: because it didn't work out. But we were talking to
Speaker 7: Kyle Vannerbosch, former Cardinal and Cardinals analyst on the airs
Speaker 7: on a Cardinals radio network, and he was talking about,
Speaker 7: you know what, you don't need to look at their
Speaker 7: best year as a free agent. You need to look
Speaker 7: at their worst year that you look at. You don't
Speaker 7: look at the ceiling. You look at the floor to
Speaker 7: try and get an understanding of what you're getting. And
Speaker 7: if i'mani ousten Ford, yeah that's a tough assessment. Okay,
Speaker 7: who am I getting? And why are they playing? Are
Speaker 7: they strictly playing in a contract year for the big money?
Speaker 7: And if we give him that money, what happens next?
Speaker 8: Well, and again, guys who hit the free agent market
Speaker 8: and their current team isn't willing to give them that money,
Speaker 8: that's always going to make me pause. Chris Jones is
Speaker 8: a little different of a situation because of Patrick Mahomes's
Speaker 8: contract and some of the other issues the Chiefs have
Speaker 8: because they've been so successful. But Chris Jones is also
Speaker 8: somebody who, as long as he doesn't get too old
Speaker 8: too fast, I believe is going to be a really
Speaker 8: good player. Hunter's another guy. He might have had statistically
Speaker 8: a career year, but we are I knew Danielle Hunter
Speaker 8: was one of the best edge rushers and that's why
Speaker 8: there was an issue this year. He wasn't gonna play
Speaker 8: at first, he wanted to be traded, and he finally
Speaker 8: came into an understanding with the Vikings, and he balled
Speaker 8: out to make sure he got the money he thinks
Speaker 8: he deserves.
Speaker 1: But he's been a really good player too.
Speaker 7: A year ago, you saw Mania sap Fort entered the
Speaker 7: second and third stage a free agency. Kiser White came
Speaker 7: in that second stage of free agency, a yelled of
Speaker 7: Froholt who ended up starting every single game at center
Speaker 7: second stage. You know Will Hernandez a couple of years
Speaker 7: ago was in that second stage, and you really you
Speaker 7: got a good deal on Will Hernandez and then re
Speaker 7: upped him. But then a guy like an LJ. Collier,
Speaker 7: a Carlos Watkins who really played well in such a
Speaker 7: limited sample size. Both guys were done by the end
Speaker 7: of September. But when you need d Lineman and those
Speaker 7: guys proved themselves in a very short term basis, how
Speaker 7: do you assess some of those Cardinals free agents in
Speaker 7: the likelihood they might be back.
Speaker 8: Well for me, if you're trying to bolster that defensive line,
Speaker 8: if you believe what you saw out of Collier and
Speaker 8: Watkins was worth bringing back, I would try and bring
Speaker 8: them back because they're not gonna cost very much money,
Speaker 8: and you can't replace everybody on the defensive line, not
Speaker 8: that they have to, but I mean you've got Jonathan
Speaker 8: Ledbetter who's coming off in ACL now, you needed to
Speaker 8: improve that whole group anyways. I mean, there's some work
Speaker 8: to do on that defensive line that you're not gonna
Speaker 8: be able to do with one big free agent signing
Speaker 8: or one blue chip draft pick. You're gonna need more
Speaker 8: guys than that. The other thing to remember, especially when
Speaker 8: it comes to defense. I'm not saying you don't get
Speaker 8: a blue chip defensive lineman that can wreck the game.
Speaker 8: But again, when you're talking about spending a super high
Speaker 8: pick on somebody or spending a lot of money in
Speaker 8: freegency especially, you're gonna be rotating out the linebackers. You're
Speaker 8: gonna be rotating out the edge guys. You're gonna be
Speaker 8: rotating out the defensive line. Now, I'm not saying a
Speaker 8: really good guy isn't gonna get more snaps than maybe
Speaker 8: they did this year. But if that's Nick Rolis's philosophy,
Speaker 8: that you're going to rotate these guys all the time,
Speaker 8: how much are you going to give them if you're
Speaker 8: only going to play them sixty percent of the snaps.
Speaker 7: Cardinals played Chicago late in the season, and I think
Speaker 7: once you saw Montes sweating when he did for that
Speaker 7: Bears defense, you understood the value of a number one
Speaker 7: pass rush that guy off the edge. They gave him
Speaker 7: a high second round pick and they paid him big money,
Speaker 7: but he really set the defense.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 7: Once upon a time, Chandler Jones did the same thing
Speaker 7: for the Cardinals. Once you give an offensive coordinator that
Speaker 7: guy he has to game plan for, and then it's
Speaker 7: amazing how much opens up for everyone else, and it
Speaker 7: just sets your defense. As for offense as vexing as
Speaker 7: it was Hollywood Brown this past season. How many deep
Speaker 7: shot touchdowns they missed to Hollywood Brown by my count
Speaker 7: at least four. The fact his stats were suppressed and
Speaker 7: he ended the year being injured, do you think that
Speaker 7: helps the Cardinals maybe trying to resign him if nothing else,
Speaker 7: maybe on a one year, proved deal. We're allowed to
Speaker 7: talk about that. How realistic do you think that is?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know what's going through Hollywood's mind,
Speaker 8: and I don't know what the the market might look like.
Speaker 8: I will say this, if you're the Cardinals and you
Speaker 8: want to draft a blue chip wide receiver. If you're
Speaker 8: Hollywood Brown, do you want to do your prove it
Speaker 8: deal in a place where Michael Wilson's up and coming
Speaker 8: and they just drafted a blue chip receiver?
Speaker 1: How much are you going to be able to prove it?
Speaker 7: And Trey McBride's getting ten targets a game.
Speaker 8: So I think all of that could play into a factor.
Speaker 8: But again, Hollywood Brown's got to make that decision long
Speaker 8: before the draft.
Speaker 7: That's true, and he has that relationship with Kyler Murray,
Speaker 7: so we'll see. Hey, Raminer, you can listen to your
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Speaker 7: Drew stand had to say earlier about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: We'll get into that next. The Niners and the Chiefs,
Speaker 7: and if you're the forty nine ers, be afraid, be
Speaker 7: very afraid of when Patrick Mahomes is deemed an underdog.
Speaker 7: That is next. It is the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 7: by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 12: It has got it and the forty nine ers are
Speaker 12: going to the Super Bowl. Bet on red Foever, Las Vegas.
Speaker 12: Come on, Christian McCaffrey's going to his first Super Bowl,
Speaker 12: Rock Verd. He's going going for Super Bowl. The forty
Speaker 12: nine Ers have won this crazy championship game and they
Speaker 12: are going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: This game is over, and you can doubt the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: You can dislike the Chiefs, you can disrespect the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to deal with the Chiefs being the
Speaker 6: AFC champions for the fourth time in five seasons. The
Speaker 6: Chiefs have the Lamar Hunt Trophy and they're taking it
Speaker 6: to Vegas for Super Bowl fifty eight.
Speaker 7: About it, Mitch Oltis Chiefs Radio, preceded by Greg Papa,
Speaker 7: Tim Ryan Niners Radio. The final calls in the championship game,
Speaker 7: setting up Super Bowl fifty eight, a rematch from four
Speaker 7: years ago. And Darren, I hate to inform the forty
Speaker 7: nine Ers, but Patrick mahomes all time as an underdog
Speaker 7: is nine to three, and he has said this week,
Speaker 7: and I'm quoting, it's kind of lit a fire under
Speaker 7: some guys, including myself. So an ultramotivated Patrick Mahomes going
Speaker 7: into this game, I figure it's going to be tough
Speaker 7: to beat. Where do you stand, right now in this matchup,
Speaker 7: because we both know the forty nine ers real well
Speaker 7: being in the Cardinals Division against a Kansas City team
Speaker 7: that has been a stalwart on Super Sunday.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think, ultimately I do like the Chiefs
Speaker 8: because of Patrick Mahomes, and that's not necessarily dissing brock Purty,
Speaker 8: but it's really really hard after this march through the
Speaker 8: postseason that the Chiefs have had to think he's not
Speaker 8: going to figure out another way. And if the forty
Speaker 8: nine Ers defense was as strong as it may have
Speaker 8: been in a couple of their other Super Bowl appearances, maybe,
Speaker 8: but the forty nine Ers defense seems like it can
Speaker 8: be had at times, and I think that helps the Chiefs.
Speaker 8: And I think the Chiefs defense is pretty good. Now
Speaker 8: they've got some injuries that'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 8: the Kansas City and Steve Spagnola deal with.
Speaker 1: But I mean, there's the Chiefs reminded me.
Speaker 8: And obviously the Cardinals didn't win in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 8: but the Chiefs remind me a lot of the Cardinals
Speaker 8: in two thousand and eight in terms of, like, by
Speaker 8: the end of the season, you were wondering how far
Speaker 8: they were going to go in the playoffs a little
Speaker 8: different situation. I get it, But ultimately, not only did
Speaker 8: they do really well and get to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 8: but they very well could have won it. And that
Speaker 8: kind of It's always about who's playing the best football,
Speaker 8: and I just don't feel like the forty nine ers
Speaker 8: are playing the better football than the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: I would agree with that Chiefs are definitely playing their
Speaker 7: best ball of the year. For example, they led the
Speaker 7: NFL and drop passes forty four during the regular season.
Speaker 7: They had zero in the AFC Championship. They're just playing
Speaker 7: really clean football right now. The Niners are not, especially
Speaker 7: the Niners defense. To your point, Kansas City had the
Speaker 7: number two total defense in the NFL, but the last
Speaker 7: two games of the forty nine they've given up a
Speaker 7: combined one hundred and eighty two yards rushing. Actually that
Speaker 7: was just in the NFC Championship, and they obviously gave
Speaker 7: up a lot of rushing yards against Green Bay. So
Speaker 7: between a hard charging Isaiah Pacheco, who runs as hard
Speaker 7: as anyone in the league pound for pound, and what
Speaker 7: Travis Kelcey has been doing, forget all the tailor swift
Speaker 7: stuff for a minute, he's been unstoppable and against Baltimore
Speaker 7: eleven catches on eleven targets for a touchdown or over
Speaker 7: one hundred yards receiving. What did the Niners do to
Speaker 7: try and check and neutralize Travis Kelcey?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, that's a great question, and I'm not
Speaker 8: really sure how that is gonna go. And and don't
Speaker 8: get me wrong, the forty nine Ers have a very
Speaker 8: good team. I understand why they're favored. I think it's
Speaker 8: like two points, so it's basically a pick them. And
Speaker 8: am I gonna be surprised if the forty nine.
Speaker 1: Ers win this game? Absolutely not. I do think it'll
Speaker 1: be close.
Speaker 8: And and to me, it's it's I want to see
Speaker 8: can this forty nine Ers offense really get a rhythm
Speaker 8: against this Chiefs defense, which is really good, because I
Speaker 8: I think that's as well as the Chiefs have been playing,
Speaker 8: it's not like they're scoring a ton of points. They
Speaker 8: are still using their defense to get to where they
Speaker 8: want to go.
Speaker 7: In brock Purty, look, he had the game winning drive
Speaker 7: obviously against Green Bay, and then he had the big
Speaker 7: comeback after being down twenty four to seven and a
Speaker 7: half against Detroit in the NFC Championship. So for a
Speaker 7: young quarterback, he's been in the spotlight, there's been high
Speaker 7: pressure moments and he's come through. But once again it's
Speaker 7: a Niners defensive Former Cardinals head coach Steve Wilks the
Speaker 7: Niners defensive coordinators saying, quite honestly, it was embarrassing. How
Speaker 7: do you have a lack of effort in the NFC
Speaker 7: Championship game? And at least for the niners sake, Chase
Speaker 7: Young came out and owned it because there were some
Speaker 7: film clips where he looked really bad.
Speaker 8: Well, you know again, I think it's going to be
Speaker 8: hard not to have the effort in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 8: I'm wondering if they were got a little high on
Speaker 8: themselves after beating the Packers and having a home game
Speaker 8: and the Lions. The Lions are the Lions, and that
Speaker 8: they there's a good chance they underestimated him and they
Speaker 8: got out of it. I'll go back. I thought it
Speaker 8: was interesting where Drew Stanton said that if he could
Speaker 8: give advice to Brock Purty is when he goes out there,
Speaker 8: it'll remember it's just a football game, because I don't
Speaker 8: know Brock Purty at all. Okay, I don't know how
Speaker 8: he internalizes things. Obviously, he's got to do a pretty
Speaker 8: good job of it to play NFL quarterback at the
Speaker 8: high level that he has played. But if you turn
Speaker 8: the ball over early, if you fall behind ten nothing,
Speaker 8: how does he handle that? Does it cross his mind?
Speaker 8: Oh my god, everybody's going to be wondering why I'm not,
Speaker 8: yep doing this.
Speaker 7: I told this story earlier in the week's Super Bowl
Speaker 7: forty three Cardinals in Tampa. It's game day and I
Speaker 7: was on the last bus to the stadium. Players were
Speaker 7: on that same bus, and I've never ever been on
Speaker 7: a team bus with that much tension. You could cut
Speaker 7: the nerves with a knife, right, And all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: the last guy on, and I don't know if this
Speaker 7: was by design or not, Kurt Warner, and he walked
Speaker 7: down without a care in the world. And it's as
Speaker 7: if the whole bus exhaled. Everyone sort of channeled themselves
Speaker 7: to Kurt Warner, and they reminded themselves, Oh, yeah, he's
Speaker 7: been here and done this, and guess what, he's not
Speaker 7: overly amped up. He's not ultra nervous. Why am I nervous?
Speaker 7: Kurt Warner? He's got this for us, and so maybe,
Speaker 7: just maybe the Niners and Kyle Shanahan's experience will rub off.
Speaker 7: We'll see. I'll just say this, it's a crazy stat
Speaker 7: but the past three teams in NFL history to be
Speaker 7: favored in every game in a season, regular season of postseason,
Speaker 7: every one of them lost the Super Bowl. The twenty
Speaker 7: seventeen and two thousand and seven Patriots and the two
Speaker 7: thousand and one Rams all were favored in every game
Speaker 7: all season long, and every one of them lost the
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. And you can't tell me that an ultramotivated
Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes isn't gonna come out there. And by the way,
Speaker 7: you know it's a crazy statu of Patrick Mahonssey. You
Speaker 7: realize when you get that quarterback. Prior to Mahomes, the
Speaker 7: Kansas City chief since a merger had been four and
Speaker 7: sixteen in the playoffs. Ever since Mahomes is a starter,
Speaker 7: they're fourteen and three in the postseason.
Speaker 8: Well, and the other thing too, is and I'm not
Speaker 8: saying this is necessarily playing in Obviously, the Chiefs very
Speaker 8: badly want to win this game, and they have many
Speaker 8: players I'm sure that don't have a ring yet.
Speaker 1: However, if the Chiefs lose No.
Speaker 8: One, Everybody's still going to say they're a great team.
Speaker 8: Everybody's still going to say Patrick Mahomes is the best
Speaker 8: quarterback in the league, all these things. If the forty
Speaker 8: nine Ers lose Kyle Shanahan. This brought pretty that. I mean,
Speaker 8: I do feel there is a crap ton more pressure
Speaker 8: on the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: I like Nick Bosa work in the media and maybe
Speaker 7: working the officials. When he has asked what he thought
Speaker 7: of the Kansas City old line, he said, quote, they
Speaker 7: hold a lot. So we'll see. Niners have so much
Speaker 7: invested in that front seven, can they be the difference
Speaker 7: against a really good Kansas City offensive line, which, by
Speaker 7: the way, did lead the NFL and enforced holding penalties
Speaker 7: this year. So we'll see how it comes down into
Speaker 7: the trenches. Darren Urban, thank you. Special thanks to Drew
Speaker 7: Stanton for joining us. Special thanks as always, Jim Almahondro,
Speaker 7: Cody Fincher, Aliy Narini. Once again show number fifty in
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