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Speaker 7: Were you doing those media days? You weren't the guy

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Speaker 7: in the Red Sea, Darren Ermanizzio, there are two kinds

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Speaker 8: I'm not ruling it out, but and I know people

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Speaker 8: Like, I don't think the Cardinals have made that decision,

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Speaker 10: They're three or four receivers right now on the top

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's Frank Sanders once again, former Cardinals receiver. Don't

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Speaker 8: Well, it's funny because I did get a question in

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Speaker 8: not saying Harrison's your guy, he's saying, if you could

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Speaker 7: And we asked him this week on the Red Sea

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Speaker 11: We've always talked about where's that cornerback going to be?

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Speaker 7: I was arguing with Wolf and I contended, and this

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Speaker 7: That means one of those top three quarterbacks falls and then,

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Speaker 7: Guess, possible, no doubt, But we've seen teams like Atlanta

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Speaker 5: Stanton's got the ball, short set, stands with the pocket,

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great things. I don't know how demand and

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Speaker 1: Sometimes in terms of no, it's not much for me.

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Speaker 7: You're not like one of those Sean mcvays. Though. If

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Speaker 9: It was very impressive, right, But that's again you stick

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Speaker 8: Well, we're just going to say that's a great segue

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Speaker 9: Well, I think when you have a generational talent that

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's the other side of the coin

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Speaker 9: And everybody's still quarterback crazy, right. You're starting to see

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Speaker 9: you see that because he can play in line, he

438
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Speaker 9: can do different stuff. He can set up stuff off

439
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Speaker 9: of play action or you feel good about splitting the mountain.

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Speaker 9: And again, that's just kind of the trend of the

441
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Speaker 9: NFL at this point or has been for the last decade,

442
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Speaker 9: is finding guys that can put their hand in there,

443
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Speaker 9: be serviceable blockers, but then be a complete mismatch when

444
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Speaker 9: it comes to the pass game, because he said, how

445
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Speaker 9: do you match up in personnel? And every team tries

446
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Speaker 9: to do it differently, and some teams do it better

447
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Speaker 9: than others. But but you're going to have to allegate

448
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Speaker 9: somebody to him to try to stop him. And if

449
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Speaker 9: those guys are really good, the Travis Kelcey's, the George

450
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Speaker 9: Kittles of the world, give them options, you give them

451
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Speaker 9: multiple ways to go. They're going to beat you and

452
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Speaker 9: find a ways to win.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So we've talked about the running game and the

454
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Speaker 8: receivers and maybe the offensive line and tight end, so

455
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Speaker 8: we dial it back to the quarterback where it starts.

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Speaker 8: You know, it felt like there were some bumps, like

457
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Speaker 8: Jonathan Gannon said, there were going to be when he

458
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Speaker 8: first returned from the ACL, but it did feel like

459
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Speaker 8: Kyler was trending up in the right direction. By the end,

460
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Speaker 8: it looked like he was getting more and more comfortable

461
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Speaker 8: under center and running the petsing offense, and I can

462
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Speaker 8: understand why they have high hopes for him. What did

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Speaker 8: you see in terms of his eight games and where

464
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Speaker 8: he might be going.

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Speaker 9: I saw a guy that started to understand situational football.

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Speaker 10: Really.

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Speaker 9: I mean that's the biggest thing that I think we

468
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Speaker 9: would sit there and scratch ahead at times in Cliff

469
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Speaker 9: system where they'd take a shot on third and two

470
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Speaker 9: and be like, well, why don't they just throw it underneath,

471
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Speaker 9: or you know, live to see another down and throw

472
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Speaker 9: the ball away. Hey it's a red zone, we're okay

473
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Speaker 9: kicking a field goal here, or knowing all those things

474
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Speaker 9: the game within the game, and I think that comes

475
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Speaker 9: a lot of different way. I think when you take

476
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Speaker 9: away the fact that he had to sit and watch

477
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Speaker 9: this system and learn it from the sideline and then

478
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Speaker 9: go out and try to implement it, that's a huge

479
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Speaker 9: advantage because his whole life he's always been the starting quarterback.

480
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Speaker 9: He's learned on the fly, on the job, and so

481
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Speaker 9: being able to kind of peel back those layers and say, hey,

482
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Speaker 9: this is why we're under center here, this is why

483
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Speaker 9: we're in this formation expecting this kind of coverage that

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Speaker 9: setting it up with this, This is why we're shifting

485
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Speaker 9: and motioning and getting into these different things, and we

486
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Speaker 9: can marry it up with it. And then the light

487
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Speaker 9: bulb comes on and you all of a sudden, Yes,

488
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Speaker 9: he is as good of an athlete as there is

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Speaker 9: at that position in the NFL. But playing quarterback is

490
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Speaker 9: far more than just being a great athlete. And I

491
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Speaker 9: know that I can't remember what the status Wolf probably

492
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Speaker 9: knows it. But however, many times when Kyler ran or

493
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Speaker 9: had rush attempts in the game, they were going to win,

494
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Speaker 9: and I was like, that doesn't mean anything, because there's

495
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Speaker 9: no longevity in that for quarterbacks in the NFL, and

496
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Speaker 9: you've got to be able to do that. And I

497
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Speaker 9: think Kyler has the ability to change pace on his throats.

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Speaker 9: He understands how the layer throws in, he understands she

499
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Speaker 9: understands all of these things. But being able to be

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Speaker 9: under center, being comfortable in that, and truly playing quarterback

501
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Speaker 9: as opposed to being an athlete playing quarterback and turn

502
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Speaker 9: it in the backyard football at times, I think that's

503
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Speaker 9: where you start to see some of these things and

504
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Speaker 9: the excitement for next year is really on the horizon.

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Speaker 7: How big a deal is it. He'll be able to

506
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Speaker 7: have an entire offseason with his receivers unlike a year ago.

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Speaker 7: We always hear about that cohesion and chemistry and being

508
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Speaker 7: and saying how real is that?

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Speaker 9: I think it's very, very real from the standpoint that

510
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Speaker 9: you have to sit back and say, Okay, well, yeah,

511
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Speaker 9: everybody runs a curl, everyone runs a slant, everybody runs

512
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Speaker 9: a go ball or a post or any of these routes.

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Speaker 9: There's only so many routes that you can run. But

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Speaker 9: at the same time, the detail of those routes matter immensely,

515
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Speaker 9: the feel of those guys. Just like the lead that

516
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Speaker 9: we heard about John Brown running his corner route. You

517
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Speaker 9: knew that Brown was going to come out of his break.

518
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Speaker 9: He was going to stick his foot on the ground

519
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Speaker 9: and you had to put it out there. You could

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Speaker 9: not underthrow him because he was going to be so

521
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Speaker 9: far down the field. Other guys just have a different field.

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Speaker 9: Michael Floyd, I had to throw the ball a little

523
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Speaker 9: bit different to him, understand how he was coming out

524
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Speaker 9: of his break. I just had to get it close

525
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Speaker 9: to Larry and he was going to catch it with

526
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Speaker 9: made me feel really good. So all of these guys

527
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Speaker 9: are completely different on how they do stuff. And that's

528
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Speaker 9: what the off season really is for. Right you look

529
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Speaker 9: at the phases and whatnot, and that phase two situation

530
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Speaker 9: operation of on the field give it a chance to

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Speaker 9: walk through and talk through and run through routes. That

532
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Speaker 9: that is where you get the opportunity to really get guys.

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Speaker 10: So when you get into a.

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Speaker 9: Weekly game prep or anything in the regular season, it's say, hey,

535
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Speaker 9: remember this in training camp or go back and watch

536
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Speaker 9: this in training camp. We had this concept in versus

537
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Speaker 9: this coverage that we're anticipating seeing, so we can get

538
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Speaker 9: to it and it becomes second nature. And that's just

539
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Speaker 9: developed over time. That's through repetitions. As you're talking about, Paul.

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Speaker 7: All right down the stretch, we come with Drew stand

541
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Speaker 7: former Cardinals quarterback, on the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 7: Santan Ford and Gilbert. I don't know if there's one

543
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Speaker 7: thing that stands out to you as a key to

544
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Speaker 7: the Super Bowl fifty eight, But let me ask you

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Speaker 7: about the experience factor at quarterback. Patrick Mahome fourth and

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Speaker 7: five years, brock Perty's in year number two obviously never

547
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Speaker 7: been there, and done that. You're around Tom Brady a

548
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Speaker 7: few years ago, super Bowl week, just the whole experience

549
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Speaker 7: factor at quarterback. How big a difference is that going

550
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Speaker 7: to be?

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Speaker 9: You think, well, I think it's big for a few reasons.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, they have a schedule set up and Patrick will

554
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Speaker 9: just say, you know, this is what we're doing, and

555
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Speaker 9: everybody follows. Suit I saw that firstand as he talked

556
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Speaker 9: about with Tom Brady. But Kyle Shanahan's been in a

557
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Speaker 9: super Bowl before. He was leading immensely in a super

558
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Speaker 9: Bowl before, so he knows what that preparation looks like

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Speaker 9: from an offensive standpoint, and I'm sure they've had a

560
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Speaker 9: lot of communication. He's running the ship and there's nothing

561
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Speaker 9: wrong with that. This first time around for Block Party,

562
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Speaker 9: it's okay for him to be comfortable and say, you

563
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Speaker 9: know what, I'm not going to pretend that I don't

564
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Speaker 9: know what I don't know. And that takes maturity, That

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Speaker 9: takes somebody that's very comfortable with who they are. And

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Speaker 9: as much criticism as he's gotten all year, he's very

567
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Speaker 9: comfortable with who he is and he understands the skill

568
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Speaker 9: set that he has around them. He understands all of

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Speaker 9: these things and one of these things. But my biggest

570
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Speaker 9: piece of advice to him would just be, you know what,

571
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Speaker 9: once he kicked that ball off, it's just football. You

572
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Speaker 9: can't win the game in the first half as the

573
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Speaker 9: Detroit Lions. Now you've got to go out and play

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Speaker 9: four quarters.

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Speaker 7: Drew, we really enjoyed it, some great insight.

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Speaker 8: We're also going to get more of your clips going.

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Speaker 8: We're just gonna listen to Drew stan highlights all afternoon.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, get all eight of them out.

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Speaker 10: Ash has a couple of ones.

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Speaker 9: I've heard some other ones too when I was with

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Speaker 9: the Lion about Old Wolf. So you know, all of

582
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Speaker 9: them are good.

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Speaker 7: Hey, and all those parents right you're coaching their kids.

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Speaker 7: Tell their parents to appreciate the fact they have a

585
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Speaker 7: long time NFL quarterback as their kids head coach. All right,

586
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Speaker 7: appreciate it, Drew, thank you? All right, there you go, man, Yep,

587
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Speaker 7: Drew stand former Cardinals quarterback, our guest on The Big

588
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Speaker 7: Red Rage. I'll tell you what we'll come back. We'll

589
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Speaker 7: talk about Cardinals free agency, needs, wants, what's feasible and

590
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Speaker 7: doable all coming up next in The Big Red Rage

591
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Speaker 7: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 2: Kaiser White just set the tempo for everybody out on

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Speaker 2: this field right now between the White Liones.

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Speaker 5: What are you going to do about A message has

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Speaker 5: been sent?

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Speaker 2: What is that message, David, that.

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Speaker 5: Messages we will fight you. And Kaiser White's a thumber.

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Speaker 2: He has been all over the field and he is

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Speaker 2: a physical guy as well.

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Speaker 5: Kaizer White White turned down the Jets to get to

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Speaker 5: the quarterback. Yeah, Kaiser White and run flying in there

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Speaker 5: at the end is Kaizer White.

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Speaker 2: It's a culture of physicality, is what this is about.

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Speaker 5: He's a very physical player and one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: why the Cardinals wanted to bring him over when Jonathan

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Speaker 5: Gannon got the job. What a big play by Kaizer White.

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Speaker 2: Kaiser White getting off an awful lot of blocks right

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Speaker 2: now and making tackles.

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Speaker 5: Hit and sacked by Kisier White.

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Speaker 2: Kaizer White manhunter, track and bag, Kaizer White.

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Speaker 7: Passion Wolf. That was just from week one and two.

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Speaker 7: When you got to you know it and the Cardinals

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Speaker 7: new right away, you know what. Kaiser White is a

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Speaker 7: legit Mike linebacker. Not just the plays he made, but

615
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Speaker 7: his ability to get the play called, to make the checks,

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Speaker 7: get everyone in the right position for a defense to

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Speaker 7: play fast, played with some nasty I mean it was

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Speaker 7: early in that season opener at Washington he started, he

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Speaker 7: started a fight on the sideline with that physical hit.

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Speaker 7: I mean so right away, no doubt he didn't make

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Speaker 7: a statement. And we'll see if the Cardinals are going

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Speaker 7: to do something similar once free agency begins. It is

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Speaker 7: the big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

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Speaker 7: We are santan Ford, Darren Urban and for Ron Wolfley

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Speaker 7: and really Kaiser White would be the big name, would

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Speaker 7: be the big signing from a year ago. How much

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Speaker 7: bigger do you think it gets this year in free

628
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Speaker 7: agency with some forty two million or so available under

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Speaker 7: the cap. Now that Mantia support Johnathan Gannon know what

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Speaker 7: they have, they have a better understanding of what they

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Speaker 7: need in free agency.

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Speaker 8: I think there's a chance there could be a splash

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Speaker 8: signing or two. I don't know if if Monty's the

634
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Speaker 8: type of guy that's going to top the market with

635
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Speaker 8: the splashiest signing. And I'm very curious to see who

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Speaker 8: is available at the positions they so desperately need, especially

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Speaker 8: on defense, defensive line, edge rusher, cornerback. If any of

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Speaker 8: those things are there, especially when we sit here, and

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Speaker 8: I mean we just earlier in the show, we're talking

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Speaker 8: about the draft, Paul and what might be available at four,

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Speaker 8: and I think you need to keep.

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Speaker 1: That in mind.

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Speaker 8: Okay, if you're thinking to yourself that cornerback may or

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Speaker 8: may not be there at four, it could be there

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Speaker 8: at twenty seven. Tackles are deep, Like, I think there's

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Speaker 8: some positions you might want to look at in free

647
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Speaker 8: agency to try and get to bolst of those early,

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Speaker 8: because you're not one hundred percent sure you're going to

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Speaker 8: be able to get a blue chipper in the draft.

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Speaker 7: No doubt. Look, you know there might be a corner

651
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Speaker 7: like Terry and Arnold of Alabama who has the size,

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Speaker 7: has the skill set, the athleticism. We'll see. You don't

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Speaker 7: truly know what the Cardinals warroom thinks is someone like that?

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Speaker 7: But would he be someone at number four? So when

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Speaker 7: I say you might trade out from four down to eight,

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Speaker 7: or dare I see even down to Vegas at thirteen

657
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Speaker 7: or Minnesota at eleven, you know, maybe you still target

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Speaker 7: the corner at that point because there don't seem to

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Speaker 7: be a ton of free agent corners available, and you

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Speaker 7: don't just need one, you probably need two. In terms

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Speaker 7: of defensive linemen, though, there are some names. For example,

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Speaker 7: Chris Jones, according to all reports, will be playing his

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Speaker 7: last game as a Kansas City Chief. Remember they had

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Speaker 7: the whole contract stalemate that caused him to miss the

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Speaker 7: first game. And then you have other guys who are

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Speaker 7: tracking towards free agency Pro Bowlers like Baltimore's Justin Matdabweke,

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Greener to Houston, Demnil Hunter of Minnesota, you know,

668
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Speaker 7: Christian Wilkins, a lot of speculation out of Miami what

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Speaker 7: exactly they are going to do. They're Chase Young, who

670
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Speaker 7: really needs to rebound after the NFC Championship game. He

671
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Speaker 7: appears to be hitting the open market. So to me,

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Speaker 7: if there's big money on a big name, I'm guessing

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Speaker 7: it'll come at defensive line, just because there seems to

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Speaker 7: be more support then maybe demand this year.

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Speaker 8: I would agree, And I think those are some fascinating names.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think you want to be smart, you know,

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Speaker 8: I do think the Cardinals are in a position where

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Speaker 8: they could challenge for a playoff spot next year if

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Speaker 8: they do things everything right in this offseason. But I

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Speaker 8: think the defense has to get a lot better, and

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Speaker 8: you got to be careful. Are you going to hand

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Speaker 8: out a four or five year deal to a guy

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Speaker 8: who's twenty eight to twenty nine years old. I mean

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Speaker 8: that's I think that's got to make you pause a

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Speaker 8: little bit, depending on how big the deal is.

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Speaker 7: For example, Daniel Hunter aged twenty nine and he just

687
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Speaker 7: had a career year sixteen and a half sacks and

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Speaker 7: he led the NFL with twenty three tackles for loss.

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Greener career year, had a career high in sacks

690
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Speaker 7: twelve and a half for Houston. Mattabike, right, he just

691
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Speaker 7: had a breakout season, went to the Pro Bowl. And

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Speaker 7: it can't help but remind you of a lesson learned

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Speaker 7: with Jordan Phillips a few years ago, who had a

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Speaker 7: breakout contract year for the Bills, came to the Cardinals

695
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Speaker 7: big money. Thankfully it was only a two year deal

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Speaker 7: because it didn't work out. But we were talking to

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Speaker 7: Kyle Vannerbosch, former Cardinal and Cardinals analyst on the airs

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Speaker 7: on a Cardinals radio network, and he was talking about,

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Speaker 7: you know what, you don't need to look at their

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Speaker 7: best year as a free agent. You need to look

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Speaker 7: at their worst year that you look at. You don't

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Speaker 7: look at the ceiling. You look at the floor to

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Speaker 7: try and get an understanding of what you're getting. And

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Speaker 7: if i'mani ousten Ford, yeah that's a tough assessment. Okay,

705
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Speaker 7: who am I getting? And why are they playing? Are

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Speaker 7: they strictly playing in a contract year for the big money?

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Speaker 7: And if we give him that money, what happens next?

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Speaker 8: Well, and again, guys who hit the free agent market

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Speaker 8: and their current team isn't willing to give them that money,

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Speaker 8: that's always going to make me pause. Chris Jones is

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Speaker 8: a little different of a situation because of Patrick Mahomes's

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Speaker 8: contract and some of the other issues the Chiefs have

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Speaker 8: because they've been so successful. But Chris Jones is also

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Speaker 8: somebody who, as long as he doesn't get too old

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Speaker 8: too fast, I believe is going to be a really

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Speaker 8: good player. Hunter's another guy. He might have had statistically

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Speaker 8: a career year, but we are I knew Danielle Hunter

718
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Speaker 8: was one of the best edge rushers and that's why

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Speaker 8: there was an issue this year. He wasn't gonna play

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Speaker 8: at first, he wanted to be traded, and he finally

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Speaker 8: came into an understanding with the Vikings, and he balled

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Speaker 8: out to make sure he got the money he thinks

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Speaker 8: he deserves.

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Speaker 1: But he's been a really good player too.

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Speaker 7: A year ago, you saw Mania sap Fort entered the

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Speaker 7: second and third stage a free agency. Kiser White came

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Speaker 7: in that second stage of free agency, a yelled of

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Speaker 7: Froholt who ended up starting every single game at center

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Speaker 7: second stage. You know Will Hernandez a couple of years

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Speaker 7: ago was in that second stage, and you really you

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Speaker 7: got a good deal on Will Hernandez and then re

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Speaker 7: upped him. But then a guy like an LJ. Collier,

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Speaker 7: a Carlos Watkins who really played well in such a

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Speaker 7: limited sample size. Both guys were done by the end

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Speaker 7: of September. But when you need d Lineman and those

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Speaker 7: guys proved themselves in a very short term basis, how

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Speaker 7: do you assess some of those Cardinals free agents in

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Speaker 7: the likelihood they might be back.

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Speaker 8: Well for me, if you're trying to bolster that defensive line,

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Speaker 8: if you believe what you saw out of Collier and

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Speaker 8: Watkins was worth bringing back, I would try and bring

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Speaker 8: them back because they're not gonna cost very much money,

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Speaker 8: and you can't replace everybody on the defensive line, not

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Speaker 8: that they have to, but I mean you've got Jonathan

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Speaker 8: Ledbetter who's coming off in ACL now, you needed to

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Speaker 8: improve that whole group anyways. I mean, there's some work

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Speaker 8: to do on that defensive line that you're not gonna

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Speaker 8: be able to do with one big free agent signing

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Speaker 8: or one blue chip draft pick. You're gonna need more

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Speaker 8: guys than that. The other thing to remember, especially when

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Speaker 8: it comes to defense. I'm not saying you don't get

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Speaker 8: a blue chip defensive lineman that can wreck the game.

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Speaker 8: But again, when you're talking about spending a super high

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Speaker 8: pick on somebody or spending a lot of money in

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Speaker 8: freegency especially, you're gonna be rotating out the linebackers. You're

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Speaker 8: gonna be rotating out the edge guys. You're gonna be

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Speaker 8: rotating out the defensive line. Now, I'm not saying a

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Speaker 8: really good guy isn't gonna get more snaps than maybe

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Speaker 8: they did this year. But if that's Nick Rolis's philosophy,

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Speaker 8: that you're going to rotate these guys all the time,

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Speaker 8: how much are you going to give them if you're

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Speaker 8: only going to play them sixty percent of the snaps.

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Speaker 7: Cardinals played Chicago late in the season, and I think

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Speaker 7: once you saw Montes sweating when he did for that

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Speaker 7: Bears defense, you understood the value of a number one

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Speaker 7: pass rush that guy off the edge. They gave him

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Speaker 7: a high second round pick and they paid him big money,

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Speaker 7: but he really set the defense.

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Speaker 1: Agreed.

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Speaker 7: Once upon a time, Chandler Jones did the same thing

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Speaker 7: for the Cardinals. Once you give an offensive coordinator that

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Speaker 7: guy he has to game plan for, and then it's

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Speaker 7: amazing how much opens up for everyone else, and it

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Speaker 7: just sets your defense. As for offense as vexing as

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Speaker 7: it was Hollywood Brown this past season. How many deep

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Speaker 7: shot touchdowns they missed to Hollywood Brown by my count

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Speaker 7: at least four. The fact his stats were suppressed and

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Speaker 7: he ended the year being injured, do you think that

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Speaker 7: helps the Cardinals maybe trying to resign him if nothing else,

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Speaker 7: maybe on a one year, proved deal. We're allowed to

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Speaker 7: talk about that. How realistic do you think that is?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know what's going through Hollywood's mind,

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Speaker 8: and I don't know what the the market might look like.

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Speaker 8: I will say this, if you're the Cardinals and you

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Speaker 8: want to draft a blue chip wide receiver. If you're

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Speaker 8: Hollywood Brown, do you want to do your prove it

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Speaker 8: deal in a place where Michael Wilson's up and coming

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Speaker 8: and they just drafted a blue chip receiver?

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Speaker 1: How much are you going to be able to prove it?

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Speaker 7: And Trey McBride's getting ten targets a game.

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Speaker 8: So I think all of that could play into a factor.

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Speaker 8: But again, Hollywood Brown's got to make that decision long

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Speaker 8: before the draft.

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Speaker 7: That's true, and he has that relationship with Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 7: so we'll see. Hey, Raminer, you can listen to your

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Speaker 7: favorite Cardinals podcast at home or on the GOH search

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Speaker 7: Arizona Cardinals podcast on your preferred podcast provider, or visit

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Speaker 7: Asycardinals dot com slash podcasts. All right, you heard what

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Speaker 7: Drew stand had to say earlier about the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: We'll get into that next. The Niners and the Chiefs,

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Speaker 7: and if you're the forty nine ers, be afraid, be

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Speaker 7: very afraid of when Patrick Mahomes is deemed an underdog.

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Speaker 7: That is next. It is the Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 7: by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 12: It has got it and the forty nine ers are

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Speaker 12: going to the Super Bowl. Bet on red Foever, Las Vegas.

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Speaker 12: Come on, Christian McCaffrey's going to his first Super Bowl,

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Speaker 12: Rock Verd. He's going going for Super Bowl. The forty

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Speaker 12: nine Ers have won this crazy championship game and they

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Speaker 12: are going to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: This game is over, and you can doubt the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: You can dislike the Chiefs, you can disrespect the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna have to deal with the Chiefs being the

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Speaker 6: AFC champions for the fourth time in five seasons. The

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Speaker 6: Chiefs have the Lamar Hunt Trophy and they're taking it

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Speaker 6: to Vegas for Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 7: About it, Mitch Oltis Chiefs Radio, preceded by Greg Papa,

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Speaker 7: Tim Ryan Niners Radio. The final calls in the championship game,

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Speaker 7: setting up Super Bowl fifty eight, a rematch from four

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Speaker 7: years ago. And Darren, I hate to inform the forty

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Speaker 7: nine Ers, but Patrick mahomes all time as an underdog

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Speaker 7: is nine to three, and he has said this week,

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Speaker 7: and I'm quoting, it's kind of lit a fire under

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Speaker 7: some guys, including myself. So an ultramotivated Patrick Mahomes going

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Speaker 7: into this game, I figure it's going to be tough

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Speaker 7: to beat. Where do you stand, right now in this matchup,

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Speaker 7: because we both know the forty nine ers real well

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Speaker 7: being in the Cardinals Division against a Kansas City team

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Speaker 7: that has been a stalwart on Super Sunday.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think, ultimately I do like the Chiefs

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Speaker 8: because of Patrick Mahomes, and that's not necessarily dissing brock Purty,

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Speaker 8: but it's really really hard after this march through the

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Speaker 8: postseason that the Chiefs have had to think he's not

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Speaker 8: going to figure out another way. And if the forty

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Speaker 8: nine Ers defense was as strong as it may have

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Speaker 8: been in a couple of their other Super Bowl appearances, maybe,

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Speaker 8: but the forty nine Ers defense seems like it can

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Speaker 8: be had at times, and I think that helps the Chiefs.

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Speaker 8: And I think the Chiefs defense is pretty good. Now

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Speaker 8: they've got some injuries that'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 8: the Kansas City and Steve Spagnola deal with.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, there's the Chiefs reminded me.

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Speaker 8: And obviously the Cardinals didn't win in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 8: but the Chiefs remind me a lot of the Cardinals

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Speaker 8: in two thousand and eight in terms of, like, by

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Speaker 8: the end of the season, you were wondering how far

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Speaker 8: they were going to go in the playoffs a little

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Speaker 8: different situation. I get it, But ultimately, not only did

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Speaker 8: they do really well and get to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 8: but they very well could have won it. And that

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Speaker 8: kind of It's always about who's playing the best football,

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Speaker 8: and I just don't feel like the forty nine ers

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Speaker 8: are playing the better football than the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: I would agree with that Chiefs are definitely playing their

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Speaker 7: best ball of the year. For example, they led the

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Speaker 7: NFL and drop passes forty four during the regular season.

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Speaker 7: They had zero in the AFC Championship. They're just playing

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Speaker 7: really clean football right now. The Niners are not, especially

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Speaker 7: the Niners defense. To your point, Kansas City had the

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Speaker 7: number two total defense in the NFL, but the last

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Speaker 7: two games of the forty nine they've given up a

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Speaker 7: combined one hundred and eighty two yards rushing. Actually that

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Speaker 7: was just in the NFC Championship, and they obviously gave

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Speaker 7: up a lot of rushing yards against Green Bay. So

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Speaker 7: between a hard charging Isaiah Pacheco, who runs as hard

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Speaker 7: as anyone in the league pound for pound, and what

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Speaker 7: Travis Kelcey has been doing, forget all the tailor swift

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Speaker 7: stuff for a minute, he's been unstoppable and against Baltimore

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Speaker 7: eleven catches on eleven targets for a touchdown or over

871
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Speaker 7: one hundred yards receiving. What did the Niners do to

872
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 7: try and check and neutralize Travis Kelcey?

873
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, that's a great question, and I'm not

874
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Speaker 8: really sure how that is gonna go. And and don't

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Speaker 8: get me wrong, the forty nine Ers have a very

876
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 8: good team. I understand why they're favored. I think it's

877
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Speaker 8: like two points, so it's basically a pick them. And

878
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Speaker 8: am I gonna be surprised if the forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Ers win this game? Absolutely not. I do think it'll

880
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Speaker 1: be close.

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Speaker 8: And and to me, it's it's I want to see

882
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 8: can this forty nine Ers offense really get a rhythm

883
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 8: against this Chiefs defense, which is really good, because I

884
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Speaker 8: I think that's as well as the Chiefs have been playing,

885
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Speaker 8: it's not like they're scoring a ton of points. They

886
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Speaker 8: are still using their defense to get to where they

887
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Speaker 8: want to go.

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Speaker 7: In brock Purty, look, he had the game winning drive

889
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 7: obviously against Green Bay, and then he had the big

890
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Speaker 7: comeback after being down twenty four to seven and a

891
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 7: half against Detroit in the NFC Championship. So for a

892
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Speaker 7: young quarterback, he's been in the spotlight, there's been high

893
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 7: pressure moments and he's come through. But once again it's

894
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Speaker 7: a Niners defensive Former Cardinals head coach Steve Wilks the

895
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 7: Niners defensive coordinators saying, quite honestly, it was embarrassing. How

896
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 7: do you have a lack of effort in the NFC

897
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Speaker 7: Championship game? And at least for the niners sake, Chase

898
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 7: Young came out and owned it because there were some

899
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 7: film clips where he looked really bad.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know again, I think it's going to be

901
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 8: hard not to have the effort in the Super Bowl.

902
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 8: I'm wondering if they were got a little high on

903
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 8: themselves after beating the Packers and having a home game

904
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 8: and the Lions. The Lions are the Lions, and that

905
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 8: they there's a good chance they underestimated him and they

906
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 8: got out of it. I'll go back. I thought it

907
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 8: was interesting where Drew Stanton said that if he could

908
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 8: give advice to Brock Purty is when he goes out there,

909
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 8: it'll remember it's just a football game, because I don't

910
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 8: know Brock Purty at all. Okay, I don't know how

911
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 8: he internalizes things. Obviously, he's got to do a pretty

912
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 8: good job of it to play NFL quarterback at the

913
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 8: high level that he has played. But if you turn

914
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Speaker 8: the ball over early, if you fall behind ten nothing,

915
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 8: how does he handle that? Does it cross his mind?

916
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 8: Oh my god, everybody's going to be wondering why I'm not,

917
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Speaker 8: yep doing this.

918
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Speaker 7: I told this story earlier in the week's Super Bowl

919
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 7: forty three Cardinals in Tampa. It's game day and I

920
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 7: was on the last bus to the stadium. Players were

921
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 7: on that same bus, and I've never ever been on

922
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Speaker 7: a team bus with that much tension. You could cut

923
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Speaker 7: the nerves with a knife, right, And all of a sudden,

924
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Speaker 7: the last guy on, and I don't know if this

925
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 7: was by design or not, Kurt Warner, and he walked

926
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Speaker 7: down without a care in the world. And it's as

927
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Speaker 7: if the whole bus exhaled. Everyone sort of channeled themselves

928
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Speaker 7: to Kurt Warner, and they reminded themselves, Oh, yeah, he's

929
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 7: been here and done this, and guess what, he's not

930
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 7: overly amped up. He's not ultra nervous. Why am I nervous?

931
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Speaker 7: Kurt Warner? He's got this for us, and so maybe,

932
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Speaker 7: just maybe the Niners and Kyle Shanahan's experience will rub off.

933
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Speaker 7: We'll see. I'll just say this, it's a crazy stat

934
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Speaker 7: but the past three teams in NFL history to be

935
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Speaker 7: favored in every game in a season, regular season of postseason,

936
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Speaker 7: every one of them lost the Super Bowl. The twenty

937
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Speaker 7: seventeen and two thousand and seven Patriots and the two

938
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Speaker 7: thousand and one Rams all were favored in every game

939
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Speaker 7: all season long, and every one of them lost the

940
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Speaker 7: Super Bowl. And you can't tell me that an ultramotivated

941
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Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes isn't gonna come out there. And by the way,

942
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Speaker 7: you know it's a crazy statu of Patrick Mahonssey. You

943
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 7: realize when you get that quarterback. Prior to Mahomes, the

944
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Speaker 7: Kansas City chief since a merger had been four and

945
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Speaker 7: sixteen in the playoffs. Ever since Mahomes is a starter,

946
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Speaker 7: they're fourteen and three in the postseason.

947
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Speaker 8: Well, and the other thing too, is and I'm not

948
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Speaker 8: saying this is necessarily playing in Obviously, the Chiefs very

949
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 8: badly want to win this game, and they have many

950
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Speaker 8: players I'm sure that don't have a ring yet.

951
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Speaker 1: However, if the Chiefs lose No.

952
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Speaker 8: One, Everybody's still going to say they're a great team.

953
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Speaker 8: Everybody's still going to say Patrick Mahomes is the best

954
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Speaker 8: quarterback in the league, all these things. If the forty

955
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Speaker 8: nine Ers lose Kyle Shanahan. This brought pretty that. I mean,

956
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Speaker 8: I do feel there is a crap ton more pressure

957
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Speaker 8: on the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs.

958
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Speaker 7: I like Nick Bosa work in the media and maybe

959
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 7: working the officials. When he has asked what he thought

960
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 7: of the Kansas City old line, he said, quote, they

961
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Speaker 7: hold a lot. So we'll see. Niners have so much

962
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Speaker 7: invested in that front seven, can they be the difference

963
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Speaker 7: against a really good Kansas City offensive line, which, by

964
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Speaker 7: the way, did lead the NFL and enforced holding penalties

965
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Speaker 7: this year. So we'll see how it comes down into

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Speaker 7: the trenches. Darren Urban, thank you. Special thanks to Drew

967
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Speaker 7: Stanton for joining us. Special thanks as always, Jim Almahondro,

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Speaker 7: Cody Fincher, Aliy Narini. Once again show number fifty in

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Speaker 7: the history of the Big Red Rage, which goes back

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Speaker 7: to two thousand and one season twenty four and it's

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