Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by a hard brought bet.
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Speaker 1: the show that makes the squares sharper and makes the
Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I'm joined
Speaker 1: as always by my bff, my companion, my padre, my
Speaker 1: co host, professional better Simon Hunter.
Speaker 2: Hello, Simon Chat.
Speaker 3: Are we doing buddy?
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty good, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Although I will say this, you're younger than me, but yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit in only in age, not in spirit.
Speaker 1: I think we're complete opposites when it comes to spiritual
Speaker 1: age and probably street sense one hundred percent. I believe
Speaker 1: everything is sunshiny and roses, and you're know someone's looking
Speaker 1: to scam us every single turn. Michael Ray Richardson, the
Speaker 1: former All Star point guard mainly for the Knicks and
Speaker 1: the Nets from the nineteen eighties, passed away from prostate cancer.
Speaker 1: And as someone who loves the NBA and who was deeply,
Speaker 1: deeply in love with the NBA in the mid eighties,
Speaker 1: Michael Ray Richardson was this sort of sad sack story
Speaker 1: where he was so good, so dominant, led the league
Speaker 1: in steals three times and then got banned from the
Speaker 1: league because this was in the mid eighties where coke
Speaker 1: was everywhere and it was the scourge of the leagues.
Speaker 1: It was the betting of today for professional sports in general,
Speaker 1: but especially the NBA. He got banned from the NBA
Speaker 1: after four All Star seasons with the Knicks and the
Speaker 1: Nets and one other team. I forgot which one, but
Speaker 1: the dude was a baller and it was just like, Wow,
Speaker 1: Richardson was seventy and I just have a vision of
Speaker 1: him in his very short short Nets uniform like beating
Speaker 1: up on the Sixers in the playoffs, who I loved
Speaker 1: at the time, and uh, you know, support one out
Speaker 1: for Michael Ray.
Speaker 3: It's sad Dorman, a rhyming name like that I would remember,
Speaker 3: don't even recognize or remember the name.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: He is just truly dust in the win that guy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to educate you on Michael Ray Richardson.
Speaker 1: I'm also going to have to tell you, Simon, despite
Speaker 1: the controversy and the confusion and our miscommunication with the
Speaker 1: audience on the Broncos and thank freaking God, you listen
Speaker 1: to all the wise guys and we had a probably
Speaker 1: the best conversation we've ever had on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: We took out the Niners, we put in the Eagles,
Speaker 1: the Eagles won. We kind of bet against ourselves because
Speaker 1: we had been on the Packers earlier in the week.
Speaker 1: We went three and two last week, and our five
Speaker 1: favorite picks one with the Eagles, one with the Ravens,
Speaker 1: one with the Dolphins, lost with the Cardinals. In box
Speaker 1: for the year twenty eight and twenty two through ten
Speaker 1: weeks as an Eagles fan, thoughts, comments, concerns, criticisms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just because earlier in the week, I'm on
Speaker 3: a position. I'm going to try not to be so
Speaker 3: hard on holding ourselves to it because a lot can change,
Speaker 3: information can change. And yeah, thank god I spoke up,
Speaker 3: because again, you're catching me in a weird time. I've
Speaker 3: been up all night. If we were doing the show,
Speaker 3: I had been sleeping, I'd probably be a little meanor
Speaker 3: to you chat a little harder on our picks and
Speaker 3: what we should and shouldn't do on our Sunday morning show.
Speaker 3: You catch me in a very vulnerable soft spot that
Speaker 3: early in the morning, no sleep, and I just I'm
Speaker 3: very agreeable. So thank God, we got off because we
Speaker 3: can't have these back to back losing weeks. I have
Speaker 3: been brutal, So yeah, I happy. I'm pivot on it.
Speaker 3: Gross game. As an Eagles fan, I love these games.
Speaker 3: These are the games we're built to win. These are
Speaker 3: the exact games we do win. We just pull these
Speaker 3: teams into the mud. The funniest thing is just how
Speaker 3: people react to these certain games, where again I hate
Speaker 3: the conversation of these NFL players saying, well, you never
Speaker 3: played the game before, so you shouldn't have an opinion.
Speaker 3: But when you hear some people speak, well, the most
Speaker 3: basic thing is like they were like, oh, both these
Speaker 3: quarterbacks were awful, right, Jordan loved terrible. Hurts was terrible
Speaker 3: last night. It's dry air. They can't get griped on
Speaker 3: the ball. There's a reason all their passes are sailing
Speaker 3: or having bad throws. Like it's just like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: an off night. It's like, well, look at the conditions.
Speaker 3: And then you look at the field. Guys can't get
Speaker 3: their feet under them, right, it's slippery, it's slick. A
Speaker 3: lot of those things add up to be a really stupid,
Speaker 3: low scoring, sloppy game. On the other side, both offenses
Speaker 3: just had terrible luck, right, couldn't convert. And you know,
Speaker 3: we talked a little about Green Bay, the Tucker Craft stuff.
Speaker 3: That was a real issue, right, And we talked around
Speaker 3: the week. I said, maybe we're overlooking this whole Tucker
Speaker 3: Craft And you saw that that safety for Jordan Love
Speaker 3: on third down or key key downs, it's just not there.
Speaker 3: It wasn't there for them. They were nothing to scheme
Speaker 3: up where that guy has been such a difference to
Speaker 3: making for that offense. And yeah, that Eagles team definitely
Speaker 3: stole one there, right, But I said it before the season.
Speaker 3: It's hard to complain as an Eagles fan if you're
Speaker 3: in the greatest era of our you know, football dynasty,
Speaker 3: seven years too super Bowls and after a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: I thought there would be a falloff. I think anyone did, right.
Speaker 3: If you're looking at this Eagles team, a lot of
Speaker 3: injury luck, base, had a really young defensive front, and
Speaker 3: you know, Saquon has not been himself. The Madden cover
Speaker 3: SI cover is the curse is real. Still number one
Speaker 3: seed right now in ren at Week eleven in the NFC.
Speaker 3: So pretty pretty crazy as an Eagles fan that this
Speaker 3: team I have so much doubt about the offensive Coiner
Speaker 3: or all of it. I can't help but be impressed
Speaker 3: with this team. Somehow is the one seed right netwhere
Speaker 3: there is still lingering doubts about this offense.
Speaker 2: Two things.
Speaker 1: Number one, I never think of you as vulnerable or
Speaker 1: agreeable on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: So if that is you vulnerable and agreeable.
Speaker 3: Is as nice as you get, Chad, God.
Speaker 1: Help any future relationships that you have, because that is
Speaker 1: just going to be just plaining messy number one.
Speaker 2: Number two. Number two, how do you.
Speaker 3: Know that was very Chad has never had a brother.
Speaker 3: You can tell up on that right there. Chad is
Speaker 3: very soft people.
Speaker 2: Number two, don't get defensive on me. I can criticize you.
Speaker 3: I take off kid gloves with you. Hey, we got
Speaker 3: to take out four nights put the Eagles in with
Speaker 3: kid gloves. And that's me being hard on you. You're unreal.
Speaker 1: Who said you were? I didn't say you were being
Speaker 1: hard on me. You said that was you being vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm very mp with you. Hey,
Speaker 1: I gotta take this team out.
Speaker 3: Wasn't mean? Did say anything? Man was very gentle about.
Speaker 2: Why would it have to be mean?
Speaker 3: Regardless I would have to because sometimes you're disagreeable in
Speaker 3: that you were like, no, I want to be on
Speaker 3: this side. But luckily you were along.
Speaker 2: For the ride, so maybe I was agreeable.
Speaker 3: That's true. Maybe number two.
Speaker 1: If you know the SI cover Jinks, then you got
Speaker 1: to know who Michael Ray Richardson is because they basically
Speaker 1: were born at the same time. Their legends were born
Speaker 1: at the same time. Listen Simon. More importantly, it's veterans.
Speaker 3: This guy's getting tons of air time today.
Speaker 1: He deserves it. It's Veterans Day. A sincere thanks to
Speaker 1: all of our veterans, those who have served, those who
Speaker 1: do serve. It's a privilege to live in a country
Speaker 1: where we have people volunteering. So thank you to all
Speaker 1: the veterans on Veterans Day.
Speaker 3: Back to back World War champions, best military in the world,
Speaker 3: Thank you for your service. Everybody cook at.
Speaker 2: His crowd on its feet, what a tribute. This is
Speaker 2: our Tuesday show. We're going to review the entire slave.
Speaker 1: Make sure to check out the Sunday am show if
Speaker 1: you want the games. That will be our official five
Speaker 1: after we've had a chance to review the line moves
Speaker 1: and the injuries. There's definitely been lots of moves on
Speaker 1: Sundays this season, as you've seen in some controversy. We
Speaker 1: had so make sure you pay attention to that one.
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your pots. Okay, Thursday Night Football eight fifteen,
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime, New York Jets at the New England Patriots. Boy,
Speaker 1: this number is big, eleven and a half for the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Look, the Jets are just a.
Speaker 1: Bad team, and I think right now, coming off that
Speaker 1: win against the Browns where everyone sort of believed that
Speaker 1: was the spot where you had to bet the Jets
Speaker 1: as we did, whatever work for them against Cleveland in
Speaker 1: the perfect spot for their defense to be motivated against
Speaker 1: a lower level QB will not work against a very
Speaker 1: good QB and a brilliant coach in Mike Vrabel. Last week,
Speaker 1: Justin Fields went six of eleven for fifty four yards.
Speaker 1: Forty two of those yards came on a screen pass
Speaker 1: to Breeze Hall that he ran for a touchdown. The
Speaker 1: strength of this team is their rushing offense, and I
Speaker 1: put strength in quotes.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem.
Speaker 1: The Pats strength on defense against the run top five
Speaker 1: across every advanced metric, first overall in some of the
Speaker 1: more superficial categories. And even though their past defense is suspect,
Speaker 1: I'm almost done with my soluquis here, even though their
Speaker 1: past defense is suspect. I just gave you the justin
Speaker 1: field stats and Garrett Wilson is out for three to
Speaker 1: four weeks. Krippoor, Christian Gonzales, He's not gonna have anyone
Speaker 1: to guard this week. I'll be clear, I'll be clear.
Speaker 1: This will not be a Final five pick. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be clear. No, but I'm having a hard time getting
Speaker 1: to the Jets even with a massive, massive number.
Speaker 3: Come on, we know the Jets are gonna win this
Speaker 3: one out right again? Right? Can we bet the Jets
Speaker 3: money line three weeks in a row, Chad, it's been
Speaker 3: good to us. We're running a heater right now, the
Speaker 3: Jets money line.
Speaker 2: Come on, No, no, no, no, come on.
Speaker 3: We're being real. This is the definition of a letdown
Speaker 3: trap spot. But we been saying this for about a month,
Speaker 3: this Newland team. So that's what I mean, yeah, this
Speaker 3: is it. They should win this by thirty points. They
Speaker 3: are better across the board. Everything they do to well
Speaker 3: defensively is a weakness for this Jets team. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll I'm happy that we're avoiding it. I'll be on
Speaker 3: the Jets steam. I know plenty of guys. We're gonna
Speaker 3: be on New England. No, plenty of pros already taking
Speaker 3: positions on New England. Like you said that number ten,
Speaker 3: it's gonna push up to eleven and a half now.
Speaker 3: So I hate it. But it's just New England again.
Speaker 3: They're fans. They shouldn't care what someone like me thinks.
Speaker 3: They have possibility in the one seed. They're just not
Speaker 3: that good of a team. They have so many weaknesses
Speaker 3: that they just keep overcoming and having sane QB play
Speaker 3: and it's just all hitting right now. So they'll keep
Speaker 3: getting away from it. They're gonna get caught. I mean,
Speaker 3: they are going to get caught, and this is going
Speaker 3: to go the other way. But I get why you're hesitant.
Speaker 3: It's why would we just tried to stand in front
Speaker 3: of this team last week and got demolished. I get
Speaker 3: what you don't want to do it again. But to me,
Speaker 3: this is just yeah, you gotta just bet the Jets Lafe.
Speaker 3: It's bumped up too much. It doesn't matter who's on
Speaker 3: the field of this team. Like last week, they had
Speaker 3: no right cover in that number. We said they had
Speaker 3: two special teams touchdown. So if you want to fade
Speaker 3: this Jets team, it's a Thursday night. We always say
Speaker 3: the favorite, especially home teams. It does well long term.
Speaker 3: It's just skewed that way. But man, I can't get
Speaker 3: I can't get over how big of a number this
Speaker 3: is for Drake Madi try to cover. It's mass a
Speaker 3: lot of points.
Speaker 2: It's a massive, massive number. Let's go across the pond.
Speaker 2: We're going to Madrid.
Speaker 1: We're going to a city where most people when the
Speaker 1: game starts are getting home from dinner at nine point
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. We got Washington at Miami, and
Speaker 1: as producer Matt Mitchell pointed out, if there's ever been
Speaker 1: a game in a city where a team has a
Speaker 1: chance to just completely disappear into the nightlife when their
Speaker 1: season is lost and their coach make it fired, it
Speaker 1: is this Miami Dolphins team, who are currently two and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites. Huge swing in the game, by
Speaker 1: the way, because the game is one and a half
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, even after the about while the Lions
Speaker 1: were getting demolished, and it's swung to the to Miami
Speaker 1: minus two and a half, so huge four point swing.
Speaker 1: Are the Commodoores, the Commodoor's great band, the Commodoors, the
Speaker 1: Commanders such a dreadful team against the run that Devon
Speaker 1: Han can again run for one thousand yards.
Speaker 3: I'm shocked you didn't sing there, good on you, Chet,
Speaker 3: good on you.
Speaker 2: I would have, but I couldn't think of any.
Speaker 3: Matt Mitchell's got to jump then he would know, dude, great,
Speaker 3: that's why you're the best. Matt. Probably supposed to be
Speaker 3: the Commanders, but it's under three if it's gonna be
Speaker 3: Marriot again with all these injuries that they've had, washing
Speaker 3: in their defense is just atrocious. Like you said, it's
Speaker 3: I've been killing us for not faitting this Commander's team
Speaker 3: this whole time, like we just keep every week we've
Speaker 3: been I've been going against him somehow we have not
Speaker 3: taken them in the contest, and every week it's just
Speaker 3: they're just terrible. Like the coaching staff. I think the
Speaker 3: head coach that he's taken over defensive duties. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: you know, will that changed much. I just don't know
Speaker 3: if they have the pieces. They just have had so
Speaker 3: many injuries when they're already an older team with a
Speaker 3: lot of weaknesses. So, yeah, it's under three, I guess
Speaker 3: I'll take it. But we always say we don't. We
Speaker 3: don't want to bet to a let alone to it
Speaker 3: as a favorite on the road. So happy to avoid
Speaker 3: this game, and just like one else, I'll be there
Speaker 3: seven am, eight am and be like, well, game starts
Speaker 3: an hour and a half. I gotta bet some side
Speaker 3: and I'll probably end up on Miami. So I hate
Speaker 3: this one, but got to take a side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it was anything.
Speaker 1: If Miami is still under three, I would take it
Speaker 1: because I do think in terms of sort of if
Speaker 1: this is a spirit Bowl, the spirit for Miami after
Speaker 1: beating Buffalo is a little bit higher, they might be
Speaker 1: able to see some opportunities versus I think the commanders
Speaker 1: like we got a backup quarterback, We've got a defense
Speaker 1: that can't stop anybody. They're geriatric, like, we got nothing
Speaker 1: going on here. So I know the professionals, I know
Speaker 1: they're going to do the best they can, but I
Speaker 1: think that the scheme favors Miami over Washington.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shockingly only had Miami minus one year, so I
Speaker 3: think that's what most guys. It's like. Shockingly, this is
Speaker 3: probably a lot closer than people realize matchup wise. So
Speaker 3: we're very public in our pick, but we both agree
Speaker 3: it's about the number, the fact that it's under a
Speaker 3: field goal.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Simon, this line opened at five and
Speaker 1: a half. It has moved down to four and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be totally honest. This was nearly Chat's choice. Wow,
Speaker 1: I bet Cincinnati at plus five and a half. Couple
Speaker 1: things here. Number one, Joe Flacco just being healthier and
Speaker 1: having these receivers against the Steelers diminished.
Speaker 2: Secondary, they just they can't seem to figure it out.
Speaker 1: They had that one good game where they tried to
Speaker 1: play zone against the Colts a few weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: you know, they moved Jalen Ramsey to safety. But this team,
Speaker 1: like defensively is not in a good spot. And I
Speaker 1: know we now got the Steelers look terrible and so
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'm buying into fading the Steelers here,
Speaker 1: but this is really a bet on Joe Flacco and
Speaker 1: that receiving corps just being able to score whenever they
Speaker 1: want and keep this game closer than the line reflects.
Speaker 1: The line has moved to four and a half at
Speaker 1: hard Rock, so I bettert a five and a half.
Speaker 1: It's moved in that direction. It's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I didn't make a catch choice is because it's
Speaker 1: got down to four and a half.
Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals game roaring back, I think most of degree.
Speaker 3: Why is this not three three and a half? These
Speaker 3: two teams already played this season Bengals one thirty three
Speaker 3: to thirty one. I know it was a Thursday game
Speaker 3: and weird things happen on Thursday. But I don't know
Speaker 3: about you, but this is giving me a ton of
Speaker 3: the same vibes for that's forty nine ers Rams game,
Speaker 3: Like the forty nine Ers on a Thursday beat That
Speaker 3: Rams team stole that game. It's given me a lot
Speaker 3: of vibes here where it feels too easy and I'm
Speaker 3: a little worried about this Bengal side. But I agree
Speaker 3: with you if you want to take the number five
Speaker 3: and a half, that feels like that's a sharp number.
Speaker 3: It's moving that way. Maybe I'll get there on the
Speaker 3: Steelers brow City right now, chat like, I want to
Speaker 3: be in the Bengals, but I'm just worried there's something
Speaker 3: I'm missing here because I just this line feels way off.
Speaker 3: I don't get why this is not three three and
Speaker 3: a half. Like you just said, Pittsburgh's defense, we've said, all, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're super suspect. The only time they perform well is
Speaker 3: and they get these insane turnovers. So not good to
Speaker 3: be banking a defense with. You need a ton of
Speaker 3: turnover luck. And then on the flip side, Rogers has
Speaker 3: just been very questionable. But this is a great matchup him,
Speaker 3: especially if Trey Hendrick's still out. I no pressure type
Speaker 3: of game. I mean, we haven't really beat him up start,
Speaker 3: but we bullyed that guy coming the season. He had
Speaker 3: one good week one and he has been nothing since.
Speaker 1: Further, Oh my god, he's been. He's been a meme.
Speaker 1: He's become like every single week someone is finding a
Speaker 1: video of him doing something where he just doesn't know
Speaker 1: what he's doing.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And that's a classic horrible pick, classic Bengals pick. We
Speaker 1: said all like, like, as I told.
Speaker 3: You, who gets four sacks in college?
Speaker 1: Before the season, an NFL scouts said to me, there's
Speaker 1: nobody in college who's game planning to keep your best
Speaker 1: player out of the action. If he's not getting plays,
Speaker 1: it's not because he's a freak athlete who they just
Speaker 1: can't figure out how to use. It's because he doesn't
Speaker 1: know how to play football. And that's what we're seeing
Speaker 1: with Stewart right now. And yeah, that obviously, I'm making
Speaker 1: a bet behind the Bengals keeping it being able to
Speaker 1: score every time they want. I'm not expecting the Bengals
Speaker 1: defense to stop Aaron Rodgers. I'm expecting him to look
Speaker 1: like he's thirty one years old in this game.
Speaker 2: But I just think that on.
Speaker 3: Joe Flacker to keep up like he had the previous
Speaker 3: matchup again thirty three to thirty one the first time
Speaker 3: they played, maybe we should be looking more towards the
Speaker 3: over here even playing aside.
Speaker 1: To be honest, that's interesting, interesting, all right, Carolina visiting Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Carolina is a three and a half point underdog. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this question, Simon Hunter, are you ready
Speaker 1: if you're a fan, which one of these teams.
Speaker 2: Do you feel better about going into the future.
Speaker 1: Would you rather right now be a fan of Bryce
Speaker 1: Dave Knalys and the Carolina Panthers. Would you rather be
Speaker 1: a fan of Raheem Morris, Michael Pennix and the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4: Would I don't know about the head coach, but Atlanta's
Speaker 4: foundation I really like, like you have the receiver, you
Speaker 4: have the running backs, and what we think is potentially
Speaker 4: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Like Penis has a great arm, He's got a real
Speaker 3: arm talent. It's can you add the other tools? Right?
Speaker 3: He just we always keep saying it's I know people
Speaker 3: want them to be better, and you can kind of
Speaker 3: close your eyes a little bit with this Falcons team,
Speaker 3: or they have a couple of games where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: they could have won that one, they could have stole
Speaker 3: that game. There, What are they three and six this year?
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's I get if their fan base is
Speaker 3: down on it. But like we said, it's just hard
Speaker 3: to be patient as a fan. You gotta be patient
Speaker 3: with Penix. He's just he's doing things that he looks
Speaker 3: like a first year quarterback. He's just inconsistent, makes you
Speaker 3: really dumb throws and he's just locked in on Drake London,
Speaker 3: which isn't an issue because Drake London so good, but
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're not gonna win games that way, right.
Speaker 3: You can't just focus feet on a guy, especially on
Speaker 3: third downs of defense. They're gonna do that. So for me,
Speaker 3: the Panthers, I still I don't know. I once we
Speaker 3: love the Panthers and Bryce Young, he's he's just not
Speaker 3: looking like Bryce Young.
Speaker 2: He's kind of regressed the past couple of weeks, I know.
Speaker 3: And it's like painful to watch because it's like you
Speaker 3: want to say, well, it's the coach, maybe it's the
Speaker 3: past protection. It's like, no, it's it's him. He's not
Speaker 3: making the right reads. He's got guys open certain spots
Speaker 3: where he's not seen and comes back down to the
Speaker 3: height stuff. I know, it's it sounds lazy, but it's true.
Speaker 3: There's a reason most of these teams won six four
Speaker 3: to six five quarterbacks guys like him. He doesn't see
Speaker 3: that open guy in the flat because he can't see
Speaker 3: over his left tackle. So I don't know, Chad. If
Speaker 3: I was a fan for this year, i'd be excited.
Speaker 3: If I'm a Panthers fan, because you can kind of
Speaker 3: lie your something to think we could be the wildcard
Speaker 3: team and Bryce could keep improving. But yeah, I would
Speaker 3: be a little worried about him and what he's gonna
Speaker 3: be like going forward. Were Pennix, I still haven't seen
Speaker 3: enough to really make a judgment call in that. So, uh,
Speaker 3: I like it landing here too. I don't know about
Speaker 3: you in this matchup, but I thought this on number
Speaker 3: is really interesting. The fact that they opened this a
Speaker 3: mystere and a half. Yeah, yeah, you like you like
Speaker 3: a lander or now.
Speaker 2: I actually wanted to get your opinion. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't land anywhere, it feels like because the reason
Speaker 1: I asked the question is because when I went through it,
Speaker 1: you know, you and I, when we both eyeball these
Speaker 1: things before we even do any work, we sort of
Speaker 1: instinctively say, who do I like here? And my instinct
Speaker 1: was to like Carolina at three and a half getting
Speaker 1: the hook in the division, I think two teams.
Speaker 3: Well with the pros. I know a couple of pros
Speaker 3: who right away Sunday they grabbed that. So but it
Speaker 3: hasn't moved.
Speaker 1: But it hasn't moved, which is interesting, right because like
Speaker 1: normally these lines we've seen with some other division games
Speaker 1: that opened to three, they've moved to two and a
Speaker 1: half or they moved to three and a half. This
Speaker 1: one was at three and a half and it's just
Speaker 1: stayed and it's the only one that has stayed of
Speaker 1: the Division games. And so I wanted to like Carolina,
Speaker 1: but I think that's because we always like Carolina and
Speaker 1: we want to believe in Bryce Young and we think
Speaker 1: we've seen something in the way he plays that we've
Speaker 1: actually won money on, and you know, and so but look,
Speaker 1: he was terrible against the Packers and they won because
Speaker 1: he made some good plays down the stretch.
Speaker 2: But really it was Rico daubdle.
Speaker 1: Right last week against the Saints, he was truly awful,
Speaker 1: Like he made bad plays, the same things he had
Speaker 1: done against the Packers, only they didn't overcome them against
Speaker 1: the Saints, and so that was pretty disconcerting. And it
Speaker 1: looked to me like he was regressing a little bit.
Speaker 1: And the things that had made him magical when he's
Speaker 1: stepping up in the pocket and being accurate and hitting
Speaker 1: guys that keeps them in the game, he was just
Speaker 1: throwing picks and he was fumbling and like not playing
Speaker 1: like a professional quarterback who's on a winning team. And
Speaker 1: then I look at the Falcons and if you squint,
Speaker 1: not just on the offensive side, like you can see
Speaker 1: them getting to the ball defensively, there's just a couple
Speaker 1: of plays away, like some bad calls away meeting schematically
Speaker 1: that let the Colts stay in it. They should have
Speaker 1: killed the Colts in that game. It shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: It shouldn't have been a game. And so that's when
Speaker 1: I started to lean to the Falcons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a game that I just earmarked right
Speaker 3: away because of my model had a two and a half.
Speaker 3: So it's like, Okay, I'm already gonna like the Panthers.
Speaker 3: My model likes the Panthers as well, and it probably
Speaker 3: is going to be something I'm a little blind through
Speaker 3: right now, which is we're giving a lot of praise
Speaker 3: to Atlanta here. Let's make no mistake. This is a
Speaker 3: defense just gave up what two hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 3: rushing to doctor David. Yeah, and you could say, well
Speaker 3: that was flicky. Well go watch that Miami game against
Speaker 3: eight Chan where they struggled. So you're seeing a little
Speaker 3: bit of pattern that when they face really dominant running backs,
Speaker 3: their defense does struggle and their offense seems not to be
Speaker 3: able to keep up with it. But you know, and
Speaker 3: landing here is on a slot. That's why it's like
Speaker 3: I really wanted to be on the Panthers. But just situationally,
Speaker 3: they win that Bills game, everyone thinks, you know, that's
Speaker 3: a win that's going to send them to another level.
Speaker 3: That's a young Atlanta team. They've lost four straight. I mean,
Speaker 3: tough road, but forty nine ers Miami New England Colts,
Speaker 3: they've dropped them. You would expect this team to get
Speaker 3: right here at home against the Panthers. But like Chad's
Speaker 3: saying here, maybe I should trust my model and trust
Speaker 3: my instincts here. This is a great matchup. Rico data
Speaker 3: on this Carolina Panthers team to take the three and
Speaker 3: a half. But I just I don't get why this
Speaker 3: number is what it is, because to me, if they
Speaker 3: opened it two and a half three, that made more
Speaker 3: sense for this matchup than what they're putting here, which
Speaker 3: is they're thinks they think the Falcons are a much
Speaker 3: better team than the Panthers. So and just see what
Speaker 3: the market will do with this one. Like Chad said,
Speaker 3: if you want the early read with the pros, they're
Speaker 3: on the Panthers supposed three and a half. I'll be
Speaker 3: patient here, maybe take a position on the Falcons later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna hold off on this one.
Speaker 1: I'm going to see how the market plays it. Let's
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Speaker 1: This had been seven and a half and it still
Speaker 1: is in most places. You know what I realized last
Speaker 1: week when I was putting together my notes in the
Speaker 1: script yesterday, how nice it was not to have to
Speaker 1: think about Tennessee last week. Agreed, truly, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: A lot of questions here. Who's playing quarterback for the Texans.
Speaker 1: We don't know yet yet, I mean will know. You
Speaker 1: know the status of C. J. Stroud later this week
Speaker 1: as he goes through the concussion protocol. Jeffrey Simmons, I
Speaker 1: don't think is going to play for the Texans. And
Speaker 1: when I think about the Titans, like the last time
Speaker 1: we bet against them, and we rarely have in the contest,
Speaker 1: was two weeks ago against the Chargers, and they burned
Speaker 1: us with a punt return and a pick six and
Speaker 1: then they got a you know, backdoor field goal. So
Speaker 1: I kind of want to go back to not having
Speaker 1: to think about the Texans, especially when I don't know
Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback and a team that is significantly offensive challenged.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Texas here. I'm shocked this numbers
Speaker 3: come down, So I'm interested to talk to pros this
Speaker 3: week see why they're taking this Titans team. But just
Speaker 3: a nightmare match for the Titans, as if these teams
Speaker 3: didn't play earlier in the year. And I think the
Speaker 3: score was twenty six nothing or thirty nothing the Houston one.
Speaker 3: I guess it's really yeah, And it's it's just about
Speaker 3: the matchups where it's like, what can this Titans team
Speaker 3: offensively do to beat this Texans team matchup and scheme wise,
Speaker 3: and I just can't find one. So so I think
Speaker 3: they get shut out again. No, CJ. I think we'll
Speaker 3: get one of them. They'll steal one, maybe get a touchdown,
Speaker 3: and you know, like you said, it's it's interesting they
Speaker 3: hung this line when no one knows who the quarterback
Speaker 3: is going to be. Where I feel like even if
Speaker 3: they hung six five and a half, they would have
Speaker 3: got the same amount of action they hung at seven
Speaker 3: and a half. And it's all Titans money, all of it.
Speaker 3: Like I'm looking right now out a bunch of different books,
Speaker 3: it's just all Titans money. So I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'll just be patient and I'll get the better number
Speaker 3: of the Texans. But if this sets six and a half,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a real time hard time avoiding this game.
Speaker 3: And maybe I'll convintion you come Sunday for six a
Speaker 3: half in the contest. But Titans, I don't know how
Speaker 3: they score. And the other side, Houston wants to run
Speaker 3: the ball. Guess who's horrible against the run, the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we'll see Jeffrey Simmons is back. If he's not,
Speaker 3: I don't think he's back. It's gonna be another great matchup,
Speaker 3: great spot for this Texans team. So yeah, it's I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go back and I'll rewatch that Houston game for
Speaker 3: early year. But I just remember they fled out dominated
Speaker 3: across the board with something stupid like nine or six
Speaker 3: nothing at a half. In the second half, they just ran
Speaker 3: it down the throats of Tennessee and Tennessee couldn't do
Speaker 3: anything offensively, So it just feels a good match for
Speaker 3: this Texans team here coming off such an emotional win,
Speaker 3: and keep those vibes rolling.
Speaker 2: I don't think Simmons is going to be back. We'll
Speaker 2: updated on Thursday.
Speaker 1: But when I was checking the reports yesterday, most of
Speaker 1: them said they didn't expect him back until week twelve.
Speaker 1: So that changes that. Listen, you know me on Sunday mornings, I.
Speaker 2: Am easy, easy.
Speaker 1: To by the way, that might be a common door
Speaker 1: song too, and that's a great callback and we didn't
Speaker 1: even plan that.
Speaker 2: That was solo Lionel, Richie, Chad, come on, get it together,
Speaker 2: let's go, Mack.
Speaker 1: I don't need a ton of persuading on betting against
Speaker 1: the Titans. I had a little bit of trepidation just
Speaker 1: because I saw the number move and I don't know
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. But if you feel that strongly
Speaker 1: about it, I'm gonna be all in on it. I
Speaker 1: might make it my biggest bet of the year.
Speaker 3: I hope not. I wouldn't do that. If it's Davis.
Speaker 1: Mills, all right, well we're gonna put a hold on
Speaker 1: Houston minus seven.
Speaker 2: We'll see who the players are Green.
Speaker 1: Bay at the New York Giants plus seven and a half.
Speaker 1: Since the news of Brian Dayball being fired, since the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers put up seven points at home and
Speaker 1: had a myriad of miscues against the Philadelphia Eagles, this
Speaker 1: number has come down from eight and a half to
Speaker 1: seven and a half. And I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of feelings about Brian David
Speaker 1: I can't tell if like he was just an arrogant
Speaker 1: dude or a football dude or a guy who is
Speaker 1: getting screwed. I think it's mostly Brian Dayball getting screwed.
Speaker 1: Forget about his ability to coach and scheme and get
Speaker 1: along with, you know, people on the coaching staff and
Speaker 1: the players don't seem to.
Speaker 2: Like him very much.
Speaker 1: He seems to be a little bit of a manage
Speaker 1: the star and not manage anybody else kind of coach.
Speaker 2: But boy, the videos that are.
Speaker 1: Coming out about Joe Shine and his reactions to Jackson's
Speaker 1: dart and how he didn't want to take him, and
Speaker 1: how he got rid of Saquon when Brian Daball wanted
Speaker 1: to keep him, and how he signed Daniel Jones to
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty million dollars deal. Like he seems
Speaker 1: a little easily in this whole situation.
Speaker 3: I mean, you come across all these people on life
Speaker 3: where you're just like, how does this guy have and
Speaker 3: maintain these jobs? And he's one of those people.
Speaker 2: It's like he's managing up. In the corporate world, it's
Speaker 2: called managing up.
Speaker 3: Okay, well he's doing it. Definition We have a couple
Speaker 3: of people like that in my world as well, but uh,
Speaker 3: they always get theirs. I don't. Hopefully it goes the
Speaker 3: same in the business world. But I look at this
Speaker 3: move as I guess a positive for the Giants. I mean,
Speaker 3: this guy is blown. Was a four double digit fourth
Speaker 3: quarter leads this season with the Giants. Yeah, had to do.
Speaker 3: If you're the owner, you have to show your fan
Speaker 3: base you have a pulse and make that move. So yeah,
Speaker 3: just burn it all down, get rid of him, get
Speaker 3: rid of the GM start over. Like we joke with Dart,
Speaker 3: tons and tons of talents, no brains. Guy is a
Speaker 3: full on idiot when it comes to protecting himself. I
Speaker 3: mean someone joked I think it's true. I think he
Speaker 3: has three concussions this year, Like, well.
Speaker 1: I think he's been checked for three concussions. He's been
Speaker 1: checked for four check for multiple concussions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still like, I mean, he just needs
Speaker 3: to understand he's got so much talent. The league is
Speaker 3: set up to protect yourself if you're a quarterback, especially
Speaker 3: as a runner. It's just crazy the stuff he put
Speaker 3: himself into. So I am all over green Bay here,
Speaker 3: especially if this might be Russell Wilson. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: and we've seen it. Yeah, Russell Wilson could have a
Speaker 3: flute game where it all puts it all together. This
Speaker 3: is ain't it? Like? This is a defensive front on
Speaker 3: Green Bay that can get pressure on a quarterback. They
Speaker 3: have a lot of guys that can win one on ones.
Speaker 3: And the flip side Lafloor with this Packers team, that
Speaker 3: was kind of an oddity. I mean, we both talked
Speaker 3: about Green Bay. He doesn't lose back to back, so
Speaker 3: that was the first time they lost back to back
Speaker 3: games in like two years. And Lafloor when he does
Speaker 3: lose back to back, he really gets his team right
Speaker 3: in that third game. It just we always give him
Speaker 3: praise for be such a good coach. This seems like
Speaker 3: a little floor type of game. Type of spot, So
Speaker 3: I get with people in their doubts with love. I
Speaker 3: like I said, I think it was the dry air
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and able to grip the ball, and we saw
Speaker 3: a ton of drops too from receivers. Just was really
Speaker 3: off night all together, where I think this is a
Speaker 3: good bounce back spot for this Backers team. So scary number.
Speaker 3: I get it like we're bad, not a Packers team
Speaker 3: that is not proven to be worthy of this type
Speaker 3: of number. But I think it's got a Russell Wilson
Speaker 3: line that it could be announced it to RUSS. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to get ahead of it. See if I
Speaker 3: can get this now, and if it is RUSS, see
Speaker 3: if this number gets up to nine or ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the number has been moving in the opposite direction.
Speaker 1: The other thing that I think about with this game,
Speaker 1: Matt Laflor might want to give Josh Jacobs the ball.
Speaker 2: Many many, many many times.
Speaker 1: And the Giants' weakness, and we saw it again last
Speaker 1: week against the.
Speaker 2: Bears, was being able to stop the rush.
Speaker 1: I mean they are thirty first, thirty second in the
Speaker 1: league anyway you slice it, so it does play to
Speaker 1: the strength and we saw last night even the Packers
Speaker 1: they continue to try to run, they continue to try
Speaker 1: to run. That's some dubious play calls, I think. But
Speaker 1: when Josh Jacobs had the ball, he was somewhat effective
Speaker 1: and obviously got into the end zone. So I think
Speaker 1: it's a strength against weakness as well, regardless of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: But it is a big number, big big number.
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, Minnesota Vikings, commodoors did not sing that song.
Speaker 2: It's a three at hard rock. It's kind of been
Speaker 2: bouncing around. It was at.
Speaker 1: Three, it went down to two and a half, it
Speaker 1: went back to three. I'm talking about the Vikings being
Speaker 1: three point Favoritesier. I love your take on this because
Speaker 1: my lean is Minnesota when it's under a field goal.
Speaker 2: I have not bet it yet.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out of my head about JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy and trying to get out of my head about
Speaker 1: my Bears euphoria. I was talking to my buddy Andy
Speaker 1: last night, who I grew up with outside Chicago and
Speaker 1: Holland Park and also.
Speaker 2: Went to Indiana with me.
Speaker 1: We don't even know how to react to having a
Speaker 1: dominant college football team and a foot professional football team
Speaker 1: that is bringing us joy and so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: see the full picture for the Bears and not just
Speaker 1: what they're doing in the final two minutes when the
Speaker 1: whole game is breaking down and Caleb gets to use
Speaker 1: his athleticism. And I'm also trying to get over JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy and just say I think the Vikings at two
Speaker 1: and a half are the right size show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we have the avoided. Then I think
Speaker 3: I'm too biased as well with this Bears team. They've
Speaker 3: just been winning me a lot of money, you are, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I've just been betting them, especially their money line
Speaker 3: every week, where it's like they've just been good to me.
Speaker 3: They just find ways to win. They're a very competitive team,
Speaker 3: and I love the books hung this line of what
Speaker 3: they did right because their first matchup Vikings first week,
Speaker 3: go on the road and they win right by three
Speaker 3: against this Bears team. So the books are just like,
Speaker 3: we'll let you guys decide, right, We're gonna play it
Speaker 3: right right where you just said. If it's two and
Speaker 3: a half, how do you not tempt to take Minnesota there?
Speaker 3: It feels a good number, a plus three. Same for
Speaker 3: the Bears. It's like these teams are so evenly matched
Speaker 3: I just think it's priced right. I don't really see
Speaker 3: value either side. So if I have to make us
Speaker 3: a pick on this side, I'm gonna go Bears. I
Speaker 3: just like the way they're playing right now, the vibes
Speaker 3: of the team. On the flip side, I think we
Speaker 3: both just don't trust JJ like we don't. That's why
Speaker 3: on script, he's great that first series, you know, first fifteen,
Speaker 3: we always say no issue there, But after that, I
Speaker 3: just don't think him or chaos here and sink we're
Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams. He's not as great on the first fifteen,
Speaker 3: but he gets better as a game goes along, especially
Speaker 3: the run game. For this, Bears then gets better as
Speaker 3: a game goes along. So yeah, I just at the three,
Speaker 3: I gotta take Bears.
Speaker 1: Not that I want to be nitpicky about the greatest
Speaker 1: football franchise in NFL history, but he is still wildly inaccurate,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the reason is Kaylee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the reasons why they have to have.
Speaker 1: These dramatic moments is because he's still missing the easy,
Speaker 1: wide open throws. There were at least there were three
Speaker 1: of them on Sunday late in the game.
Speaker 2: One of them Colston Lovelin caught it was behind him
Speaker 2: as he was rushing across the middle.
Speaker 1: One of them was wide open Roma Dunese and it
Speaker 1: just was an overthrow. Another one I can't remember who
Speaker 1: it was. It might have been Luther Burden just didn't
Speaker 1: connect on it and it wasn't anything but Caleb not
Speaker 1: making a good throw.
Speaker 2: That is killing me.
Speaker 1: Do you get extra credit for making the spectacular but
Speaker 1: not making the easy? But you win because of the spectacular.
Speaker 3: Just win, baby, That's all matters to me.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I'm about process as much as them about results.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay visiting the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: Are five and a half point favorites. I'm going to
Speaker 1: say something here. I feel like the oh interesting, you
Speaker 1: want to say something?
Speaker 3: No, I said say it?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think the Bucks.
Speaker 1: Are getting dinged here more for losing than the Bills
Speaker 1: are for losing, because it feels weird to me this
Speaker 1: line is five and a half.
Speaker 2: It should be lower.
Speaker 3: I agree. So that's what scaring me off of it
Speaker 3: a little bit, where it's like, just like this, since
Speaker 3: the game, what are we not seeing here? Chad? Are
Speaker 3: we too in love with this Bucks team? Because they
Speaker 3: were so good to us earlier in the year, had
Speaker 3: so many incredible wins when they were priced right, and
Speaker 3: we're covering for us. Do not get this line at all.
Speaker 3: This feels like I respect to this Bills team that
Speaker 3: has not deserved the respect with this big where's that
Speaker 3: secondary is suspect? I feel like Baker is going to
Speaker 3: be able to get his even with these nameless guys
Speaker 3: bizarre number. So yeah, like, let's be paid on this one.
Speaker 3: I'll see what I can hear and talk to people
Speaker 3: as you say here right now. I love the Bucks,
Speaker 3: especially at five and a half, So something I must
Speaker 3: be missing here. This just feels like such a good number.
Speaker 3: And you know we all know the deal Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: if you can find it and play in himself, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they should roll here. This is a good match of
Speaker 3: room against this Bucks team. But I feel like the
Speaker 3: Bucks defense and embarrassing as it was last week against
Speaker 3: the run. Don't you think the Boys would bounce back
Speaker 3: here the following week like it was such a bad
Speaker 3: loss for them. Where I know the Bills they can say, well,
Speaker 3: we just had an embarrassing on ourselves. They don't have
Speaker 3: the guys. You don't have a Vita vet. You just
Speaker 3: I think they also another rookie to an injury this
Speaker 3: past week, which is just it's never any of this
Speaker 3: Pills and they just had a horrible injury look to
Speaker 3: a defense. I couldn't afford to keep losing guys. So
Speaker 3: I don't love this match for this Pills team. But
Speaker 3: I let me be patient here, make sure I'm not
Speaker 3: missing something before I really put a lot of money
Speaker 3: to this Buck side.
Speaker 2: Well, here's what's interesting.
Speaker 1: You just mentioned the rush game against the Bucks for
Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Bucks gave up I think one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty six yards rushing in that game, one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five of them or on those.
Speaker 2: Two broken plays.
Speaker 1: So are we looking at the Bucks defense as having
Speaker 1: had a bad game or did the Bucks defense have
Speaker 1: two bad plays?
Speaker 3: And but Cook's that same style as Henderson. He can
Speaker 3: break it. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: You know to that degree, it's hard to break big runs.
Speaker 3: It's hard out understand.
Speaker 1: So I don't automatically think just because they've got James
Speaker 1: Cook that he's gonna be able to do the same
Speaker 1: things that Trevion Henderson did. I might have to lean
Speaker 1: into this Bucks defense playing as it normally does. The
Speaker 1: one thing that I can't get over, Bucky Irving might
Speaker 1: just be much more important to this offense than we
Speaker 1: even gave him credit for. And we gave him a
Speaker 1: lot of credit, but it's not the same team since
Speaker 1: he's been out with the foot and the shoulder and
Speaker 1: he's not expected.
Speaker 2: To play this week. Todd Bowles said.
Speaker 1: Yesterday he did not think Bucky Irving was going to play,
Speaker 1: and I think that's making a much bigger difference for
Speaker 1: Sead White is just a different player and as magical
Speaker 1: as Baker is, if he doesn't have Bucky Bucky Irving,
Speaker 1: and hee's down Mike Evans and he's down Chris Godwin,
Speaker 1: even with the offensive line getting better, is there something
Speaker 1: in the sauce that's missing that we're not seeing. I
Speaker 1: agree that's fair La Chargers at the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Look, it's when we fade the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I don't know to tell you, like we we missed
Speaker 1: betting on the Chargers last week when we knew we
Speaker 1: should have.
Speaker 2: Been betting on the Chargers. Uh, And we now would
Speaker 2: normally want to bet on.
Speaker 1: The Chargers as road favorites because they looked so good
Speaker 1: last week, and we're like, all right, they figured it out.
Speaker 1: You make quick passes, you don't let the offensive line
Speaker 1: become a liability, and then we would bet them and
Speaker 1: they'll go on the road as favorites and they'll loose
Speaker 1: and they won't make us happy. So I'm just saying
Speaker 1: right now, I don't even care who they're playing. We're
Speaker 1: fading the Chargers.
Speaker 3: Well they shockingly they've been winning on the road. They
Speaker 3: just have not been covering for us. So you're right
Speaker 3: they they've burned this exact spot twice.
Speaker 1: A difference to me, Simon, I don't wins and losses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair about my wins and losses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hard Rock has already moved the unfortunately, like to me,
Speaker 3: it's plus three. Go find it if you can on
Speaker 3: the Jags. But I don't even know how much time
Speaker 3: when I spend this one because I honestly hate this game, Chad.
Speaker 3: I hate that I have to better, I hate that
Speaker 3: IM have to watch it. I just do not enjoy
Speaker 3: the trebor Lards betting experience. I never have, never will.
Speaker 3: So this is the random time where I'll take that
Speaker 3: number because I know it's the right one. The midle
Speaker 3: thinks it's the right one. Chad just basically nailed it,
Speaker 3: like we get burned by the Chargers here every time.
Speaker 3: Now we're going the other side. We will definitely Chargers
Speaker 3: by thirty points in this matchup. But now it's just
Speaker 3: we talked the matchup wise that you saw Herbert even
Speaker 3: against the Pittsburgh they feel like they got a way
Speaker 3: with a bunch of stuff just because there's so many
Speaker 3: turnovers by Rogers and everything kind of went their way.
Speaker 3: Where this feels like a good spot right for this
Speaker 3: Jaguars team and the fact that games should be a pick.
Speaker 3: Jaguars gave up was the twenty nine points on a
Speaker 3: fourth quarter embarrassing loss. This numbers moved a whole another
Speaker 3: point to this Chargers team. So plus three, I'll take
Speaker 3: on this Shacks team. But my guy, do I hate it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Seattle let Los Angeles Rams, two of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the conference. Right now, Rams are two and a
Speaker 1: half point favors. This is one of those games where
Speaker 1: I was referring to earlier, like open to three moved
Speaker 1: to two and a half, and the Wise guys are
Speaker 1: clearly coming on Seattle.
Speaker 2: Talk to me.
Speaker 3: I should have said, pause, Uh yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 3: it's a great matchup Seahawks. How do we not take
Speaker 3: them here? How do we not take the shocks? I
Speaker 3: know why people are betting the Rams. The Rams are
Speaker 3: getting all the early money. This number, like you just said,
Speaker 3: it is two and a half. Now, a couple three
Speaker 3: still out there you can find if you can. But
Speaker 3: that's that's where I want to be the shocks. I
Speaker 3: wanted to be on the three early. This Rams team,
Speaker 3: I get it, they're an absolute juggernaut, right, No, they're
Speaker 3: the hottest team of football. But there are things you
Speaker 3: look at the matchup wise that the Seahawks team can
Speaker 3: do that's gonna give the Rams real problems offensively. And
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see al Sean mcbays gonna counter that
Speaker 3: because you know, this year we've been talking a lot
Speaker 3: about this Yowks team has been a different team on
Speaker 3: the road. This feels like the true test for them
Speaker 3: on the road this year, right Like I'm I'm trying
Speaker 3: to find another game this year they've faced the team
Speaker 3: on the road that's at this type of level. I
Speaker 3: really can't find it. And the Rams we've talked about,
Speaker 3: they're probably the best off at some football right now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: A huge game, right this is their first time meeting
Speaker 3: up in this division. Feels like they're the two teams
Speaker 3: at the top. They're by far the two teams that
Speaker 3: as an Eagles fan, probably give you the most worry
Speaker 3: right now in football. So I, as an Egles fan,
Speaker 3: can't wait to watch this one. This I would say
Speaker 3: this is the game of the week. I know a
Speaker 3: lot of people think Eagles Detroit is because I believe
Speaker 3: they're both number one in their divisions right now. But
Speaker 3: I love this type of game because divisionally, and like
Speaker 3: you just said, it's the type of game that it's
Speaker 3: going to have huge ramifications going forward. So Seattle wise,
Speaker 3: our big warry here. It's we're back Darnald over Stafford
Speaker 3: when Stafford's super high right now, and we're talking about
Speaker 3: confidence with the last possession in the game, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be Stafford. So I'm not shocked to see professionals and
Speaker 3: early money here coming on the Rams at the two
Speaker 3: and a half. But I just love this matchup wise,
Speaker 3: Seahawks against this Rams offense. Defensively, on the flip side,
Speaker 3: I don't really think the Rams have guys that can
Speaker 3: get stops against the Seahawks team that it's the play
Speaker 3: action pass, it's what's working, and they don't have a
Speaker 3: corner that could take away JSN. So I like the
Speaker 3: matchup schipsmatically for the Seahawks team, So really really excited
Speaker 3: to this one. Maybe a game we don't bet or
Speaker 3: put in our contests because it's just going to be
Speaker 3: a game where you don't really need to invest a
Speaker 3: lot into because there's too many UKNOWN factors and how
Speaker 3: good of a matchup it is. But at the three,
Speaker 3: I think you got to take the Seahawks of that number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping it'll get back there. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it will.
Speaker 1: But I like Seattle's defense here. They are so good
Speaker 1: at rushing the passer and if there's anything we know,
Speaker 1: especially up the middle, if there's anything we know can
Speaker 1: bother Matthew Stafford's pass rush up the middle where he's
Speaker 1: got to evade going outside, and that's just harder for
Speaker 1: him to do. It's always been hard for him to do,
Speaker 1: even when he was younger, and now that he's older,
Speaker 1: that to me is the biggest challenge. It's always the
Speaker 1: biggest challenge for older quarterbacks. So when someone's coming at
Speaker 1: you directly in front of you, it's hard to figure
Speaker 1: out which way you're going to go, and you don't
Speaker 1: have the legs to sort of get there. I really
Speaker 1: like Seattle's defense. They're so freaking good, and I think
Speaker 1: they're better than the Rams defense, to be honest, especially
Speaker 1: from the pass rush. So, yeah, we don't have to
Speaker 1: invest a ton in this, but we're gonna like Seattle
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be rooting for Seattle on Sunday San
Speaker 1: Francisco at Arizona. So we talked about the Sunday night.
Speaker 1: My first instinct was take the Cardinals of plus three.
Speaker 1: The line has moved to two and a half. My
Speaker 1: instinct was it's just natural off of a blowout loss.
Speaker 1: The things that happened in that game against Seattle are unprecedented.
Speaker 1: The same guy forcing a fumble to a teammate and
Speaker 1: the same teammate picking up the fumble and running it
Speaker 1: back for a touchdown, and that happened twice in the
Speaker 1: first sixteen minutes of the game.
Speaker 3: Holy smokes, another touchdown for the same.
Speaker 2: Guy, and like after that, Simon.
Speaker 1: After that, Cardinals played lights out and they actually outscored
Speaker 1: the Seahawks the rest of the game.
Speaker 2: So that's why I like the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: They just got blown out, and it's the right side
Speaker 1: the week after a blowout.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's anesoly a good match for them
Speaker 3: against what we keep talking about, a four niners defense
Speaker 3: that they can only keep getting away with so much
Speaker 3: scheme wise. Eventually, it does matter when you don't have
Speaker 3: players that can put any type of pressure on a
Speaker 3: quarterback right you need some type of pass rush. You
Speaker 3: don't have any type of cover corners. The Fred Warner injury.
Speaker 3: As the weeks have gone alonger, it's grown more and
Speaker 3: more where you just see in game adjustments just aren't
Speaker 3: the same about him in the middle. Commanded it there.
Speaker 3: So I I gave out the road talk I can
Speaker 3: give out, right, I gave out that Texans gave out
Speaker 3: Green Bay. People are gonna hat these next couple games.
Speaker 3: I just love all these home dogs, and it starts
Speaker 3: with this game here. So, like Chad said, if you
Speaker 3: can find the plus three, that's where I would prefer
Speaker 3: to be. Don't hate the two and a half. Just
Speaker 3: want to always get the best number available. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if this will be a game comes someday
Speaker 3: we'll even talk about really, because it's just it's just
Speaker 3: not going to be there with us with the number.
Speaker 1: We're not going to get a three and a half.
Speaker 1: We're only going to get a two and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just don't love it. Like I like it.
Speaker 3: I'm betting at two and a half, but I'm not
Speaker 3: crazy about it, especially wh where we don't know who
Speaker 3: the quarterrecsent. You don't know if it's me, Mac or Pretty. Still,
Speaker 3: the foty nitrews have been really quiet about it. So
Speaker 3: I look at this as Pretty was close last week,
Speaker 3: maybe he comes back this week. But last week we
Speaker 3: said last week that wasn't really a Mac Jones' fault.
Speaker 3: They lost that game. So another game where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe I'll be on the under here because I just
Speaker 3: know the polks that are coming really heavy on the
Speaker 3: end over Again, it's only Tuesday here. I've seen three
Speaker 3: different books that give out their betting line info. Ninety
Speaker 3: five to one hundred percent of the money is on
Speaker 3: the over in this matchup, so people love it here.
Speaker 3: I just like this. As a divisional game, it's always
Speaker 3: a risky bet, especially if it's a high total of
Speaker 3: forty eight and a half. So another sneaky little playout, like,
Speaker 3: here's the under in.
Speaker 2: This game, Simon.
Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens are visiting the Cleveland Browns at hard
Speaker 1: Rock Bet. The Cleveland Browns are eight point underdogs. There
Speaker 1: are plenty of eight and a half's out there. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you right now, the Cleveland Browns plus eight are
Speaker 1: going to be Chad's Choice presented by hard Rock Bet.
Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to do this?
Speaker 3: Are you willing to make a choice? What choice? We
Speaker 3: can't run from a way out, sharp dudes can just
Speaker 3: see it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm obviously hoping and praying that Dylan Gabriel can find
Speaker 1: a way to get into the end zone at some
Speaker 1: point in this game. But really, we've established a pattern
Speaker 1: here that has worked well for us, not because it's
Speaker 1: a trend, but because we actually see this with our eyes.
Speaker 1: The Browns defense is just a different team at home.
Speaker 1: This is going back two seasons now in which they
Speaker 1: continue to be able to dominate against much better teams
Speaker 1: at home and keep themselves in a position to win
Speaker 1: these games. And right now we're getting a Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: team that has won three in a row that now
Speaker 1: just looked great against the Vikings team that everyone expected
Speaker 1: might be a little bit closer of a game, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a massive, massive number in
Speaker 1: the division against a still very stingy defense.
Speaker 2: So give me the stingy defense. You know.
Speaker 1: I like to bet a team when I feel like
Speaker 1: they're massive underdogs and I know they can have at.
Speaker 2: Least one dominant.
Speaker 1: Area of the game between offense, defense and special teams.
Speaker 1: They've got a unit, and I think their defensive unit
Speaker 1: can be dominant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a game we both pick Sunday night, and
Speaker 3: I knew right away. It's like, Okay, this is a
Speaker 3: good game. We're probably gonna be talking Sunday morning, but
Speaker 3: we just everything about it. We love, love the matchup
Speaker 3: of the scheme. Wise, like you said, these teams already
Speaker 3: played Ravens won forty one to seventeen much earlier in
Speaker 3: this season. And as much as you want to take
Speaker 3: away from that game that this Brown seam, maybe it
Speaker 3: doesn't match up well for them, Like we said, that's
Speaker 3: on the road. It's a difference. They're just a different
Speaker 3: team at home this season. Believe the most points they've
Speaker 3: lost by is four. So we've just seen they play
Speaker 3: close games at home. It's a really tough team to
Speaker 3: beat at home, you know, the Browns. As bad as
Speaker 3: that loss was against that Juts team. You know, we
Speaker 3: said it's special teams. Like Gabriel wasn't that terrible. It
Speaker 3: seems like he's getting more comfortable in this offense as
Speaker 3: the season is going along here, So like we need one,
Speaker 3: we need one from him. Needn't get a one or
Speaker 3: two touchdows from at least because Lamar will eventually get
Speaker 3: his just the way it is, he's one of the
Speaker 3: best players in all football. So matchup wise, can they
Speaker 3: take away the run? Can they keep a little more contained?
Speaker 3: They got the guys like that's this front is just
Speaker 3: so impressive, so dominant, So both love it, can't avoid it.
Speaker 3: Like you said, shop around for the eight and a
Speaker 3: half people, it's such a key number, go get it.
Speaker 3: Could see this being like Miami though, could see this
Speaker 3: get into seven seven and a half by kickoff as
Speaker 3: a professional when he comes in. But it's gonna be
Speaker 3: funny see what the Brooks do with it, because it's
Speaker 3: gonna be huge parlays, huge teasers. Everyone's just fully comfortable
Speaker 3: all in on this Ravens team, especially after last week
Speaker 3: where they won so big for us and the public.
Speaker 3: It was a big win in a cover by them.
Speaker 3: I think everyone's slowly bought in now at this point
Speaker 3: on this Ravens team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally true, all true. Everything you just said, Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns Chat Choice presented by hard Rock Bet Kansas City
Speaker 1: at Denver. You like this one on Sunday Night? You
Speaker 1: like Kansas City. You said Kansas City minus three. It
Speaker 1: has now moved to three and a half.
Speaker 3: No way, did I really?
Speaker 2: I think you did? Didn't you?
Speaker 3: Oh man?
Speaker 2: I could have sworn you did.
Speaker 1: Oh By the way, I do have one more stat
Speaker 1: for the Browns that I forgot to mention from Killer Sports.
Speaker 1: Teams playing their third straight road game, coming off a
Speaker 1: straight up and against the spread wind like the Ravens,
Speaker 1: the opposing team is sixty five.
Speaker 2: Percent against the spread. I'm wrong. You like Denver. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at right now. You like Denver.
Speaker 3: This was like a Denver line Denver game in a
Speaker 3: million different ways where I knew this time would be
Speaker 3: semi inflated, thought it would be four four and a half,
Speaker 3: maybe we get there, And we always talked about we
Speaker 3: just don't try my homes as more than a three
Speaker 3: point favorite, especially in divisional against these type of games
Speaker 3: where we just know it's gonna be grueling, ugly close
Speaker 3: type of games. So not shockingly everyone hates Denver now,
Speaker 3: I mean, that was painful to watch last Thursday. Costs
Speaker 3: a bunch of people, a bunch of money. And you know,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs still look like one of the best teams
Speaker 3: in all football right when it's clicking for them offensive.
Speaker 3: I know the record doesn't reflect it, but we all
Speaker 3: view them this is one of the better teams. So
Speaker 3: I hope this gets higher. I was gonna make this,
Speaker 3: Simon says, but I didn't just because I do think
Speaker 3: we could get a four to four and a half here.
Speaker 3: I just could see a ton of public love for
Speaker 3: this Chiefs team, and I could see the professionals being
Speaker 3: patient because this won't dip back to three. There's just
Speaker 3: no way the books take a stand that way. So
Speaker 3: I do like Denver here, but I'm not gonna make
Speaker 3: it better yet. I do think we can get some
Speaker 3: fours here poping up pretty soon.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: To be clear, you did say Denver on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: I misremembered.
Speaker 3: It is weak. It was late.
Speaker 2: It was late at the end of those days. I'm
Speaker 2: a mass man. I'm tired, I'm a little dehydrated.
Speaker 1: My head starts to hurt a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not yourself on Sunday mornings. Sunday night. I'm a
Speaker 1: morning guy.
Speaker 2: You're an evening guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's the fact I've been up twenty
Speaker 3: four hours straight. By that point, I'm already kind of loopy,
Speaker 3: ye until living my mind by.
Speaker 2: Then could be well. By that point, I've been up,
Speaker 2: you know, thirteen hours straight, and so I'm exhausted.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Primetime Spotlight. We got some
Speaker 1: island games, standalone games.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Detroit plus two at Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, famous for the.
Speaker 4: Liberty Bell, Blue Laws soft pretzels.
Speaker 3: True Philadelphia fan learns daboo before he learns to speak.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: On Sunday night, we both talked about liking Detroit, but
Speaker 1: we wanted to wait to see what happened in the
Speaker 1: Monday night game because we thought the line would move.
Speaker 1: It was at one and a half, it's two at hard.
Speaker 1: It's two and a half in a lot of other places.
Speaker 1: I still like Detroit here. I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: pretty good spot for them. And I don't know that
Speaker 1: what we saw offensively from the Eagles last night was
Speaker 1: an anomaly. It seems to be how they play the
Speaker 1: game with a lot a lot of rhythm, with some
Speaker 1: weird play calling, and they win. They find ways to win.
Speaker 1: But I think Detroit's offense, with Dan Campbell calling the plays,
Speaker 1: might have a better chance to find their rhythm as well.
Speaker 3: Huge, huge mistake. No, I'm not gonna give you two
Speaker 3: more of a time about it. I did like the Lions.
Speaker 3: I thought it was probably a good spot, but already
Speaker 3: took some shit about my love for the lines and
Speaker 3: how I'm stepping in it, walking in really a little bit.
Speaker 3: And it is fair like they've faced one good defense
Speaker 3: this year, this Lion's team, and they put up seventeen
Speaker 3: points against the Chiefs. This is not a good matchup
Speaker 3: for golf. Like you just saw that front now Phillips
Speaker 3: on this Eagles team, they got some guys now Befron,
Speaker 3: they can get pressure and one on one matchups against
Speaker 3: other teams quarterbacks, So I'll be patient here. I hate
Speaker 3: when I do get flipped all these type of games
Speaker 3: and the number has gone against me. Like if this
Speaker 3: was one and a half, I've said, I still feel
Speaker 3: much better about the Eagles team, Like you said, now
Speaker 3: it's up to two to two and a half. I
Speaker 3: don't know how much I'm gonna really dig in here,
Speaker 3: but it seems like Eagles might be the wrong side
Speaker 3: this Lions team, as good as they are, they do
Speaker 3: have some flaws. Defensively, they are banged up, and I
Speaker 3: don't know if Campbell call on your offenses to where
Speaker 3: you want to be. I really don't like that. When
Speaker 3: I heard that, I was like, ah Man, Campbell's now
Speaker 3: they're offensive coordinator, Like Chad's gonna get his wish A
Speaker 3: lot of runs up the middle and fourth and one.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you that even if you could stop three
Speaker 3: times in a row. So I don't know, Like this
Speaker 3: is a team that, like we said, they got embarrassed
Speaker 3: with that Chiefs game, then they we loved them in
Speaker 3: the spot they beat up on the Bucks at home,
Speaker 3: had to buy a week, lost to JJ McCarthy, and
Speaker 3: then just beat up on a Washington team. So I
Speaker 3: just have a lot of questions that much be a
Speaker 3: question about this Eagles team. It's a good number for them.
Speaker 3: They're at home under a field goal, catching a team
Speaker 3: that might be overvalued and overrated publicly just because they
Speaker 3: already forgot about that bad Vikings loss and they just
Speaker 3: come off a dominant win. So I just have some
Speaker 3: little questions here about why the pros hit me up
Speaker 3: so hard about beating on the Eagles. And they were
Speaker 3: right once again last night about the Eagles team. That
Speaker 3: was a game they covered from the minute the game
Speaker 3: kicked off to the very end. They covered the entire
Speaker 3: way through. So yeah, we might be understanding this Eagles
Speaker 3: team that just it doesn't look pretty Chad, but they
Speaker 3: keep winning. And I think they're six and one down
Speaker 3: one score games this season. It's under a field goal,
Speaker 3: so this might be an Eagles line.
Speaker 1: All right, Look, I can be agreeable, and uh, look
Speaker 1: what I thought about this last night. There was one
Speaker 1: of the plays where Jalen Hurts was pushed out of
Speaker 1: the pockets scrambling right early in the game to convert
Speaker 1: a third down. I forgot who he hit and Shipley
Speaker 1: I think Will Shipley, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: He was so.
Speaker 1: Relaxed and smooth and unbothered, and that's how he's always
Speaker 1: playing as quarterback of the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Like it just all seems as though he's seen it,
Speaker 2: he gets it.
Speaker 1: He understands how to win, which he has done his
Speaker 1: entire career going back to college, so I get it.
Speaker 2: Like it's a hard team.
Speaker 3: Took him a quarter to shake that fumble, though instantly enough,
Speaker 3: like you're saying, frustrated, he did seem after that he
Speaker 3: was like forcing throws that usually doesn't force and it's
Speaker 3: like they need again in his ear tell him to
Speaker 3: kind of bring it back. So yeah, like, I will
Speaker 3: not be shocked if this is one of the most
Speaker 3: public dogs of the week Detroit. The Eagles looks so
Speaker 3: bad on a short week now facing the Detroit team
Speaker 3: that looks so good in the eyes of the public.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's an interesting line that the book's opened
Speaker 3: here with.
Speaker 2: We still low with Simon says, and there's only one
Speaker 2: game left. It's Dallas at Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Vegas is a three and a half point dog. By
Speaker 1: the way, this line on Sunday Monday was Dallas minus
Speaker 1: one and a half, so it's gone up two points
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: Simon, what say you.
Speaker 3: Chad knows me so well. Simon says, give me Las
Speaker 3: Vegas or A eight is plus three and a half.
Speaker 3: I want to play a game. Simon says, I feel
Speaker 3: like all year, I'm gonna keep telling people you fade
Speaker 3: Dallas when they're more than a three point favorite, and
Speaker 3: it's hit every game. I'm trying to think what game
Speaker 3: we lost this year on it. There was some stupid
Speaker 3: game that one. But yeah, like just this matchup, it
Speaker 3: feels like the same with the Panthers. Panthers were three
Speaker 3: and a half. They covered it. Cardinals are three and
Speaker 3: a half against this Dallas team covered went out right.
Speaker 3: It's just an offense that you know, the Broncos were
Speaker 3: a really good defense and they did what we thought
Speaker 3: they would do right. Like again, I can't believe we
Speaker 3: didn't cover that. If you would have told me the
Speaker 3: Raiders road score seven points out of block field goal,
Speaker 3: block punt, you know, nine penalties, you would think you
Speaker 3: would have covered that one. But this Raiders team is
Speaker 3: still playing hard, I mean as bad as I thought
Speaker 3: they would look. It's a team that has been playing
Speaker 3: hard for their coach, and when you look at this matchup,
Speaker 3: I think they're under rating this, you know, getting rid
Speaker 3: of Myers and the fact that this offense, you know,
Speaker 3: people look are just so downplaying them because of that
Speaker 3: Broncos game where you know, getting Brock Bowers back. It's
Speaker 3: a huge upgrade to this team. I know they didn't
Speaker 3: use them in the previous week, but against Dallas, who
Speaker 3: cannot cover the middle of the field, this is the
Speaker 3: matchup for him. So, you know, Dak, this is a
Speaker 3: get right game for him. He can put up a
Speaker 3: ton of points. But I just see this this team
Speaker 3: keeping up with them and this being a closer game
Speaker 3: than people realize. So as a city here right now,
Speaker 3: there's a couple of threes out there. I'm seeing a
Speaker 3: lot of books move to three and a half. So
Speaker 3: getting well you can Hard Rock is one of the
Speaker 3: first books to get to three and a half. I
Speaker 3: do think I'll go back down as professionals coming on
Speaker 3: this Raiders team. But we'll see, you know, like we
Speaker 3: always say, the Monday night games, the public is a
Speaker 3: ton of users, tuple of money line parlay is all
Speaker 3: tied to that money line that Monday game. So right
Speaker 3: now we're looking at a Dallas team on the road,
Speaker 3: probably even getting by kickoff eighty percent of the money,
Speaker 3: eighty percent of the tickets. Like that's I just think
Speaker 3: the public's gonna hammer them this matchup. So a dog
Speaker 3: at home getting that least amount of money like that,
Speaker 3: I just love this matchup for this Raiders team.
Speaker 2: All right, Look, we.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of games to talk about on Thursday.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to talk about the Browns. We're probably
Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about Cincinnati. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Houston because we want to know who's playing quarterback. We'll
Speaker 1: be curious about Green Bay to see how that number moves.
Speaker 3: And the Houston there is there is a six and
Speaker 3: a half out there. Now. People are gonna hear this
Speaker 3: six and a half half.
Speaker 1: Pop Now, we gotta go bet six and a half
Speaker 1: on Houston the box. We're very curious to see how
Speaker 1: the line moves on the Bears and the Vikings, the Jags.
Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about it Seattle.
Speaker 1: We're interested in Arizona if we can get it to three.
Speaker 1: We're interested in Denver plus three and a half. We
Speaker 1: want more on the Philly Detroit game in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: plus three and a half. A Simon says, man it
Speaker 1: is gonna be busy.
Speaker 3: Another and one more line shift before we go. Jets
Speaker 3: up to twelve and a half now, so oh my god,
Speaker 3: probably gonna have probably gonna get the thirteen shot. We're
Speaker 3: not gonna have a choice, but the bettt come Thursday
Speaker 3: night once I get to thirteen.
Speaker 2: Poor jets, Poor jets.
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