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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by a hard brought bet.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is

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Speaker 1: the show that makes the squares sharper and makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my bff, my companion, my padre, my

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Speaker 1: co host, professional better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Simon Chat.

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Speaker 3: Are we doing buddy?

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Speaker 1: I think we're pretty good, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Although I will say this, you're younger than me, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit in only in age, not in spirit.

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Speaker 1: I think we're complete opposites when it comes to spiritual

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Speaker 1: age and probably street sense one hundred percent. I believe

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Speaker 1: everything is sunshiny and roses, and you're know someone's looking

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Speaker 1: to scam us every single turn. Michael Ray Richardson, the

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Speaker 1: former All Star point guard mainly for the Knicks and

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Speaker 1: the Nets from the nineteen eighties, passed away from prostate cancer.

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Speaker 1: And as someone who loves the NBA and who was deeply,

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Speaker 1: deeply in love with the NBA in the mid eighties,

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Speaker 1: Michael Ray Richardson was this sort of sad sack story

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Speaker 1: where he was so good, so dominant, led the league

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Speaker 1: in steals three times and then got banned from the

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Speaker 1: league because this was in the mid eighties where coke

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Speaker 1: was everywhere and it was the scourge of the leagues.

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Speaker 1: It was the betting of today for professional sports in general,

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Speaker 1: but especially the NBA. He got banned from the NBA

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Speaker 1: after four All Star seasons with the Knicks and the

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Speaker 1: Nets and one other team. I forgot which one, but

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Speaker 1: the dude was a baller and it was just like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: Richardson was seventy and I just have a vision of

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Speaker 1: him in his very short short Nets uniform like beating

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Speaker 1: up on the Sixers in the playoffs, who I loved

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Speaker 1: at the time, and uh, you know, support one out

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Speaker 1: for Michael Ray.

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Speaker 3: It's sad Dorman, a rhyming name like that I would remember,

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Speaker 3: don't even recognize or remember the name.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: He is just truly dust in the win that guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to educate you on Michael Ray Richardson.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to have to tell you, Simon, despite

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Speaker 1: the controversy and the confusion and our miscommunication with the

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Speaker 1: audience on the Broncos and thank freaking God, you listen

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Speaker 1: to all the wise guys and we had a probably

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Speaker 1: the best conversation we've ever had on a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: We took out the Niners, we put in the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles won. We kind of bet against ourselves because

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Speaker 1: we had been on the Packers earlier in the week.

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Speaker 1: We went three and two last week, and our five

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Speaker 1: favorite picks one with the Eagles, one with the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: one with the Dolphins, lost with the Cardinals. In box

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Speaker 1: for the year twenty eight and twenty two through ten

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Speaker 1: weeks as an Eagles fan, thoughts, comments, concerns, criticisms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just because earlier in the week, I'm on

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Speaker 3: a position. I'm going to try not to be so

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Speaker 3: hard on holding ourselves to it because a lot can change,

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Speaker 3: information can change. And yeah, thank god I spoke up,

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Speaker 3: because again, you're catching me in a weird time. I've

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Speaker 3: been up all night. If we were doing the show,

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Speaker 3: I had been sleeping, I'd probably be a little meanor

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Speaker 3: to you chat a little harder on our picks and

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Speaker 3: what we should and shouldn't do on our Sunday morning show.

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Speaker 3: You catch me in a very vulnerable soft spot that

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Speaker 3: early in the morning, no sleep, and I just I'm

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Speaker 3: very agreeable. So thank God, we got off because we

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Speaker 3: can't have these back to back losing weeks. I have

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Speaker 3: been brutal, So yeah, I happy. I'm pivot on it.

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Speaker 3: Gross game. As an Eagles fan, I love these games.

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Speaker 3: These are the games we're built to win. These are

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Speaker 3: the exact games we do win. We just pull these

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Speaker 3: teams into the mud. The funniest thing is just how

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Speaker 3: people react to these certain games, where again I hate

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Speaker 3: the conversation of these NFL players saying, well, you never

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Speaker 3: played the game before, so you shouldn't have an opinion.

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Speaker 3: But when you hear some people speak, well, the most

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Speaker 3: basic thing is like they were like, oh, both these

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks were awful, right, Jordan loved terrible. Hurts was terrible

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Speaker 3: last night. It's dry air. They can't get griped on

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Speaker 3: the ball. There's a reason all their passes are sailing

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Speaker 3: or having bad throws. Like it's just like, oh, it's

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Speaker 3: an off night. It's like, well, look at the conditions.

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Speaker 3: And then you look at the field. Guys can't get

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Speaker 3: lot of those things add up to be a really stupid,

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Speaker 3: low scoring, sloppy game. On the other side, both offenses

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Speaker 3: just had terrible luck, right, couldn't convert. And you know,

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Speaker 3: we talked a little about Green Bay, the Tucker Craft stuff.

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Speaker 3: That was a real issue, right, And we talked around

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Speaker 3: the week. I said, maybe we're overlooking this whole Tucker

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Speaker 3: on third down or key key downs, it's just not there.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't there for them. They were nothing to scheme

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Speaker 3: making for that offense. And yeah, that Eagles team definitely

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Speaker 3: stole one there, right, But I said it before the season.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to complain as an Eagles fan if you're

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Speaker 3: in the greatest era of our you know, football dynasty,

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Speaker 3: I thought there would be a falloff. I think anyone did, right.

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Speaker 3: If you're looking at this Eagles team, a lot of

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Speaker 3: injury luck, base, had a really young defensive front, and

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Speaker 3: you know, Saquon has not been himself. The Madden cover

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Speaker 3: SI cover is the curse is real. Still number one

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Speaker 3: seed right now in ren at Week eleven in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: So pretty pretty crazy as an Eagles fan that this

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Speaker 3: team I have so much doubt about the offensive Coiner

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Speaker 3: or all of it. I can't help but be impressed

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Speaker 3: with this team. Somehow is the one seed right netwhere

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Speaker 3: there is still lingering doubts about this offense.

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Speaker 2: Two things.

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Speaker 1: Number one, I never think of you as vulnerable or

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Speaker 1: agreeable on a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: So if that is you vulnerable and agreeable.

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Speaker 3: Is as nice as you get, Chad, God.

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Speaker 1: Help any future relationships that you have, because that is

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Speaker 1: just going to be just plaining messy number one.

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Speaker 2: Number two. Number two, how do you.

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Speaker 3: Know that was very Chad has never had a brother.

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Speaker 3: You can tell up on that right there. Chad is

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Speaker 3: very soft people.

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Speaker 2: Number two, don't get defensive on me. I can criticize you.

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Speaker 3: I take off kid gloves with you. Hey, we got

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Speaker 3: to take out four nights put the Eagles in with

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Speaker 3: kid gloves. And that's me being hard on you. You're unreal.

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Speaker 1: Who said you were? I didn't say you were being

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Speaker 1: hard on me. You said that was you being vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm very mp with you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I gotta take this team out.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't mean? Did say anything? Man was very gentle about.

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Speaker 2: Why would it have to be mean?

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Speaker 3: Regardless I would have to because sometimes you're disagreeable in

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Speaker 2: For the ride, so maybe I was agreeable.

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Speaker 3: That's true. Maybe number two.

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Speaker 1: If you know the SI cover Jinks, then you got

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Speaker 1: to know who Michael Ray Richardson is because they basically

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Speaker 1: were born at the same time. Their legends were born

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Speaker 1: at the same time. Listen Simon. More importantly, it's veterans.

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Speaker 3: This guy's getting tons of air time today.

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Speaker 1: He deserves it. It's Veterans Day. A sincere thanks to

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Speaker 1: all of our veterans, those who have served, those who

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Speaker 1: do serve. It's a privilege to live in a country

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Speaker 1: the veterans on Veterans Day.

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Speaker 3: Back to back World War champions, best military in the world,

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your service. Everybody cook at.

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Speaker 2: His crowd on its feet, what a tribute. This is

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Speaker 2: our Tuesday show. We're going to review the entire slave.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to check out the Sunday am show if

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Speaker 1: you want the games. That will be our official five

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Speaker 1: after we've had a chance to review the line moves

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Speaker 1: and the injuries. There's definitely been lots of moves on

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Speaker 1: Sundays this season, as you've seen in some controversy. We

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your pots. Okay, Thursday Night Football eight fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime, New York Jets at the New England Patriots. Boy,

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Speaker 1: this number is big, eleven and a half for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Look, the Jets are just a.

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Speaker 1: Bad team, and I think right now, coming off that

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Speaker 1: was the spot where you had to bet the Jets

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Speaker 1: as we did, whatever work for them against Cleveland in

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Speaker 1: the perfect spot for their defense to be motivated against

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Speaker 1: a lower level QB will not work against a very

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Speaker 1: good QB and a brilliant coach in Mike Vrabel. Last week,

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields went six of eleven for fifty four yards.

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Speaker 1: Forty two of those yards came on a screen pass

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Speaker 1: to Breeze Hall that he ran for a touchdown. The

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Speaker 1: strength of this team is their rushing offense, and I

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Speaker 1: put strength in quotes.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: The Pats strength on defense against the run top five

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Speaker 1: across every advanced metric, first overall in some of the

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Speaker 1: more superficial categories. And even though their past defense is suspect,

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Speaker 1: I'm almost done with my soluquis here, even though their

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Speaker 1: This will not be a Final five pick. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be clear. No, but I'm having a hard time getting

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Speaker 3: Come on, we know the Jets are gonna win this

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Speaker 3: one out right again? Right? Can we bet the Jets

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Speaker 3: money line three weeks in a row, Chad, it's been

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Speaker 3: good to us. We're running a heater right now, the

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Speaker 2: Come on, No, no, no, no, come on.

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Speaker 3: We're being real. This is the definition of a letdown

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Speaker 3: trap spot. But we been saying this for about a month,

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Speaker 3: this Newland team. So that's what I mean, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: is it. They should win this by thirty points. They

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Speaker 3: are better across the board. Everything they do to well

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Speaker 3: defensively is a weakness for this Jets team. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll I'm happy that we're avoiding it. I'll be on

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Speaker 3: the Jets steam. I know plenty of guys. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: be on New England. No, plenty of pros already taking

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Speaker 3: positions on New England. Like you said that number ten,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna push up to eleven and a half now.

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Speaker 3: So I hate it. But it's just New England again.

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Speaker 3: They're fans. They shouldn't care what someone like me thinks.

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Speaker 3: They have possibility in the one seed. They're just not

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Speaker 3: that good of a team. They have so many weaknesses

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Speaker 3: that they just keep overcoming and having sane QB play

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Speaker 3: and it's just all hitting right now. So they'll keep

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Speaker 3: getting away from it. They're gonna get caught. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they are going to get caught, and this is going

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Speaker 3: to go the other way. But I get why you're hesitant.

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Speaker 3: It's why would we just tried to stand in front

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Speaker 3: this is just yeah, you gotta just bet the Jets Lafe.

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Speaker 2: It's a massive, massive number. Let's go across the pond.

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Speaker 2: We're going to Madrid.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked you didn't sing there, good on you, Chet,

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Speaker 3: Matt Mitchell's got to jump then he would know, dude, great,

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Speaker 3: that's why you're the best. Matt. Probably supposed to be

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Speaker 3: I'll take it. But we always say we don't. We

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it was anything.

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Speaker 1: If Miami is still under three, I would take it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shockingly only had Miami minus one year, so I

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Speaker 3: we're very public in our pick, but we both agree

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Speaker 3: it's about the number, the fact that it's under a

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Simon, this line opened at five and

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Speaker 1: It's moved in that direction. It's one of the reasons

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Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals game roaring back, I think most of degree.

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Speaker 3: Why is this not three three and a half? These

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Speaker 3: two teams already played this season Bengals one thirty three

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Speaker 3: Rams team stole that game. It's given me a lot

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Speaker 3: I don't get why this is not three three and

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Speaker 3: a half. Like you just said, Pittsburgh's defense, we've said, all, yeah,

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Speaker 3: especially if Trey Hendrick's still out. I no pressure type

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Speaker 3: of game. I mean, we haven't really beat him up start,

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Speaker 1: Further, Oh my god, he's been. He's been a meme.

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Speaker 1: He's become like every single week someone is finding a

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And that's a classic horrible pick, classic Bengals pick. We

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Speaker 3: You, who gets four sacks in college?

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Speaker 1: Before the season, an NFL scouts said to me, there's

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Speaker 1: defense to stop Aaron Rodgers. I'm expecting him to look

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Speaker 2: But I just think that on.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, that's interesting, interesting, all right, Carolina visiting Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: me ask you this question, Simon Hunter, are you ready

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Speaker 1: if you're a fan, which one of these teams.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel better about going into the future.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather right now be a fan of Bryce

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Speaker 4: Would I don't know about the head coach, but Atlanta's

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Speaker 4: foundation I really like, like you have the receiver, you

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Speaker 3: Like Penis has a great arm, He's got a real

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Speaker 3: He just we always keep saying it's I know people

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Speaker 3: with Penix. He's just he's doing things that he looks

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Speaker 3: you're gonna you're not gonna win games that way, right.

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Speaker 3: You can't just focus feet on a guy, especially on

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Speaker 3: And it's like painful to watch because it's like you

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Speaker 3: If I'm a Panthers fan, because you can kind of

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Speaker 2: I actually wanted to get your opinion. I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't land anywhere, it feels like because the reason

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Speaker 3: Well with the pros. I know a couple of pros

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Speaker 1: one was at three and a half and it's just

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Speaker 1: stayed and it's the only one that has stayed of

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Speaker 1: the Division games. And so I wanted to like Carolina,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's because we always like Carolina and

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Speaker 1: he was terrible against the Packers and they won because

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Speaker 1: he made some good plays down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: But really it was Rico daubdle.

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Speaker 1: Right last week against the Saints, he was truly awful,

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Speaker 1: Like he made bad plays, the same things he had

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Speaker 1: done against the Packers, only they didn't overcome them against

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Speaker 1: the Saints, and so that was pretty disconcerting. And it

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Speaker 1: looked to me like he was regressing a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And the things that had made him magical when he's

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Speaker 1: stepping up in the pocket and being accurate and hitting

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Speaker 1: guys that keeps them in the game, he was just

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Speaker 1: throwing picks and he was fumbling and like not playing

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Speaker 1: like a professional quarterback who's on a winning team. And

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Speaker 1: then I look at the Falcons and if you squint,

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Speaker 1: not just on the offensive side, like you can see

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Speaker 1: them getting to the ball defensively, there's just a couple

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Speaker 1: of plays away, like some bad calls away meeting schematically

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't have been a game. And so that's when

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Speaker 1: I started to lean to the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a game that I just earmarked right

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Speaker 3: away because of my model had a two and a half.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, Okay, I'm already gonna like the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: My model likes the Panthers as well, and it probably

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Speaker 3: is going to be something I'm a little blind through

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Speaker 3: right now, which is we're giving a lot of praise

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Speaker 3: to Atlanta here. Let's make no mistake. This is a

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Speaker 3: defense just gave up what two hundred and fifty yards

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Speaker 3: rushing to doctor David. Yeah, and you could say, well

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Speaker 3: that was flicky. Well go watch that Miami game against

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Speaker 3: eight Chan where they struggled. So you're seeing a little

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Speaker 3: bit of pattern that when they face really dominant running backs,

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Speaker 3: their defense does struggle and their offense seems not to be

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Speaker 3: able to keep up with it. But you know, and

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Speaker 3: landing here is on a slot. That's why it's like

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Speaker 3: I really wanted to be on the Panthers. But just situationally,

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Speaker 3: they win that Bills game, everyone thinks, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: a win that's going to send them to another level.

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Speaker 3: That's a young Atlanta team. They've lost four straight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: tough road, but forty nine ers Miami New England Colts,

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Speaker 3: they've dropped them. You would expect this team to get

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Speaker 3: right here at home against the Panthers. But like Chad's

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Speaker 3: my instincts here. This is a great matchup. Rico data

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Speaker 3: on this Carolina Panthers team to take the three and

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Speaker 3: a half. But I just I don't get why this

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Speaker 3: number is what it is, because to me, if they

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Speaker 3: opened it two and a half three, that made more

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Speaker 3: sense for this matchup than what they're putting here, which

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Speaker 3: is they're thinks they think the Falcons are a much

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Speaker 3: patient here, maybe take a position on the Falcons later.

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Speaker 1: A lot of questions here. Who's playing quarterback for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: We don't know yet yet, I mean will know. You

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Speaker 1: don't think is going to play for the Texans. And

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Speaker 1: when I think about the Titans, like the last time

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to go back to not having

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Speaker 1: to think about the Texans, especially when I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback and a team that is significantly offensive challenged.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Texas here. I'm shocked this numbers

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Speaker 3: come down, So I'm interested to talk to pros this

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Speaker 3: week see why they're taking this Titans team. But just

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Speaker 3: a nightmare match for the Titans, as if these teams

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Speaker 3: didn't play earlier in the year. And I think the

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Speaker 3: score was twenty six nothing or thirty nothing the Houston one.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's really yeah, And it's it's just about

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Speaker 3: the matchups where it's like, what can this Titans team

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Speaker 3: offensively do to beat this Texans team matchup and scheme wise,

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Speaker 3: and I just can't find one. So so I think

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Speaker 3: they get shut out again. No, CJ. I think we'll

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Speaker 3: get one of them. They'll steal one, maybe get a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: and you know, like you said, it's it's interesting they

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Speaker 3: hung this line when no one knows who the quarterback

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Speaker 3: is going to be. Where I feel like even if

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Speaker 3: they hung six five and a half, they would have

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Speaker 3: got the same amount of action they hung at seven

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Speaker 3: and a half. And it's all Titans money, all of it.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm looking right now out a bunch of different books,

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Speaker 3: it's just all Titans money. So I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I'll just be patient and I'll get the better number

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Speaker 3: of the Texans. But if this sets six and a half,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a real time hard time avoiding this game.

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Speaker 3: And maybe I'll convintion you come Sunday for six a

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Speaker 3: half in the contest. But Titans, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: they score. And the other side, Houston wants to run

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Speaker 3: the ball. Guess who's horrible against the run, the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we'll see Jeffrey Simmons is back. If he's not,

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's back. It's gonna be another great matchup,

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Speaker 3: great spot for this Texans team. So yeah, it's I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go back and I'll rewatch that Houston game for

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Speaker 3: early year. But I just remember they fled out dominated

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Speaker 3: across the board with something stupid like nine or six

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Speaker 3: nothing at a half. In the second half, they just ran

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Speaker 3: it down the throats of Tennessee and Tennessee couldn't do

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Speaker 3: anything offensively, So it just feels a good match for

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Speaker 3: this Texans team here coming off such an emotional win,

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Speaker 3: and keep those vibes rolling.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Simmons is going to be back. We'll

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Speaker 2: updated on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: But when I was checking the reports yesterday, most of

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Speaker 1: them said they didn't expect him back until week twelve.

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Speaker 1: So that changes that. Listen, you know me on Sunday mornings, I.

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Speaker 2: Am easy, easy.

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Speaker 1: To by the way, that might be a common door

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Speaker 1: song too, and that's a great callback and we didn't

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Speaker 1: even plan that.

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Speaker 2: That was solo Lionel, Richie, Chad, come on, get it together,

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Speaker 2: let's go, Mack.

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Speaker 1: I don't need a ton of persuading on betting against

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Speaker 1: the Titans. I had a little bit of trepidation just

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Speaker 1: because I saw the number move and I don't know

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Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. But if you feel that strongly

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Speaker 1: about it, I'm gonna be all in on it. I

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Speaker 1: might make it my biggest bet of the year.

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Speaker 3: I hope not. I wouldn't do that. If it's Davis.

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Speaker 1: Mills, all right, well we're gonna put a hold on

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Speaker 1: Houston minus seven.

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Speaker 2: We'll see who the players are Green.

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Speaker 1: Bay at the New York Giants plus seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: Since the news of Brian Dayball being fired, since the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers put up seven points at home and

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Speaker 1: had a myriad of miscues against the Philadelphia Eagles, this

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Speaker 1: number has come down from eight and a half to

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Speaker 1: seven and a half. And I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of feelings about Brian David

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Speaker 1: I can't tell if like he was just an arrogant

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Speaker 1: dude or a football dude or a guy who is

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Speaker 1: getting screwed. I think it's mostly Brian Dayball getting screwed.

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Speaker 1: Forget about his ability to coach and scheme and get

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Speaker 1: along with, you know, people on the coaching staff and

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Speaker 1: the players don't seem to.

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Speaker 2: Like him very much.

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Speaker 1: He seems to be a little bit of a manage

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Speaker 1: the star and not manage anybody else kind of coach.

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Speaker 2: But boy, the videos that are.

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Speaker 1: Coming out about Joe Shine and his reactions to Jackson's

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Speaker 1: dart and how he didn't want to take him, and

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Speaker 1: how he got rid of Saquon when Brian Daball wanted

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Speaker 1: to keep him, and how he signed Daniel Jones to

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty million dollars deal. Like he seems

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Speaker 1: a little easily in this whole situation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you come across all these people on life

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Speaker 3: where you're just like, how does this guy have and

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Speaker 3: maintain these jobs? And he's one of those people.

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Speaker 2: It's like he's managing up. In the corporate world, it's

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Speaker 2: called managing up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well he's doing it. Definition We have a couple

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Speaker 3: of people like that in my world as well, but uh,

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Speaker 3: they always get theirs. I don't. Hopefully it goes the

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00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: same in the business world. But I look at this

648
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: move as I guess a positive for the Giants. I mean,

649
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: this guy is blown. Was a four double digit fourth

650
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: quarter leads this season with the Giants. Yeah, had to do.

651
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 3: If you're the owner, you have to show your fan

652
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: base you have a pulse and make that move. So yeah,

653
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: just burn it all down, get rid of him, get

654
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: rid of the GM start over. Like we joke with Dart,

655
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: tons and tons of talents, no brains. Guy is a

656
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: full on idiot when it comes to protecting himself. I

657
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: mean someone joked I think it's true. I think he

658
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: has three concussions this year, Like, well.

659
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: I think he's been checked for three concussions. He's been

660
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: checked for four check for multiple concussions.

661
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still like, I mean, he just needs

662
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: to understand he's got so much talent. The league is

663
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: set up to protect yourself if you're a quarterback, especially

664
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: as a runner. It's just crazy the stuff he put

665
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: himself into. So I am all over green Bay here,

666
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: especially if this might be Russell Wilson. Oh my god,

667
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: and we've seen it. Yeah, Russell Wilson could have a

668
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: flute game where it all puts it all together. This

669
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: is ain't it? Like? This is a defensive front on

670
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: Green Bay that can get pressure on a quarterback. They

671
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: have a lot of guys that can win one on ones.

672
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: And the flip side Lafloor with this Packers team, that

673
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: was kind of an oddity. I mean, we both talked

674
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: about Green Bay. He doesn't lose back to back, so

675
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: that was the first time they lost back to back

676
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: games in like two years. And Lafloor when he does

677
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: lose back to back, he really gets his team right

678
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 3: in that third game. It just we always give him

679
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: praise for be such a good coach. This seems like

680
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: a little floor type of game. Type of spot, So

681
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: I get with people in their doubts with love. I

682
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: like I said, I think it was the dry air

683
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and able to grip the ball, and we saw

684
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: a ton of drops too from receivers. Just was really

685
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: off night all together, where I think this is a

686
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: good bounce back spot for this Backers team. So scary number.

687
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: I get it like we're bad, not a Packers team

688
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: that is not proven to be worthy of this type

689
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: of number. But I think it's got a Russell Wilson

690
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: line that it could be announced it to RUSS. So

691
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to get ahead of it. See if I

692
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 3: can get this now, and if it is RUSS, see

693
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: if this number gets up to nine or ten.

694
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the number has been moving in the opposite direction.

695
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: The other thing that I think about with this game,

696
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: Matt Laflor might want to give Josh Jacobs the ball.

697
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: Many many, many many times.

698
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: And the Giants' weakness, and we saw it again last

699
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: week against the.

700
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: Bears, was being able to stop the rush.

701
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean they are thirty first, thirty second in the

702
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: league anyway you slice it, so it does play to

703
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: the strength and we saw last night even the Packers

704
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: they continue to try to run, they continue to try

705
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: to run. That's some dubious play calls, I think. But

706
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: when Josh Jacobs had the ball, he was somewhat effective

707
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: and obviously got into the end zone. So I think

708
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: it's a strength against weakness as well, regardless of Russell Wilson.

709
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: But it is a big number, big big number.

710
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, Minnesota Vikings, commodoors did not sing that song.

711
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: It's a three at hard rock. It's kind of been

712
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: bouncing around. It was at.

713
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: Three, it went down to two and a half, it

714
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: went back to three. I'm talking about the Vikings being

715
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: three point Favoritesier. I love your take on this because

716
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: my lean is Minnesota when it's under a field goal.

717
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: I have not bet it yet.

718
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out of my head about JJ

719
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: McCarthy and trying to get out of my head about

720
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: my Bears euphoria. I was talking to my buddy Andy

721
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: last night, who I grew up with outside Chicago and

722
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: Holland Park and also.

723
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Went to Indiana with me.

724
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: We don't even know how to react to having a

725
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: dominant college football team and a foot professional football team

726
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: that is bringing us joy and so I'm trying to

727
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: see the full picture for the Bears and not just

728
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: what they're doing in the final two minutes when the

729
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: whole game is breaking down and Caleb gets to use

730
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: his athleticism. And I'm also trying to get over JJ

731
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: McCarthy and just say I think the Vikings at two

732
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: and a half are the right size show.

733
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we have the avoided. Then I think

734
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: I'm too biased as well with this Bears team. They've

735
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: just been winning me a lot of money, you are, yeah,

736
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: And I've just been betting them, especially their money line

737
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: every week, where it's like they've just been good to me.

738
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: They just find ways to win. They're a very competitive team,

739
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: and I love the books hung this line of what

740
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: they did right because their first matchup Vikings first week,

741
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: go on the road and they win right by three

742
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: against this Bears team. So the books are just like,

743
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: we'll let you guys decide, right, We're gonna play it

744
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: right right where you just said. If it's two and

745
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: a half, how do you not tempt to take Minnesota there?

746
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: It feels a good number, a plus three. Same for

747
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: the Bears. It's like these teams are so evenly matched

748
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: I just think it's priced right. I don't really see

749
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: value either side. So if I have to make us

750
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: a pick on this side, I'm gonna go Bears. I

751
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 3: just like the way they're playing right now, the vibes

752
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: of the team. On the flip side, I think we

753
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: both just don't trust JJ like we don't. That's why

754
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: on script, he's great that first series, you know, first fifteen,

755
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: we always say no issue there, But after that, I

756
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: just don't think him or chaos here and sink we're

757
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams. He's not as great on the first fifteen,

758
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: but he gets better as a game goes along, especially

759
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: the run game. For this, Bears then gets better as

760
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: a game goes along. So yeah, I just at the three,

761
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: I gotta take Bears.

762
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: Not that I want to be nitpicky about the greatest

763
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: football franchise in NFL history, but he is still wildly inaccurate,

764
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes the reason is Kaylee.

765
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the reasons why they have to have.

766
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: These dramatic moments is because he's still missing the easy,

767
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: wide open throws. There were at least there were three

768
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: of them on Sunday late in the game.

769
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: One of them Colston Lovelin caught it was behind him

770
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: as he was rushing across the middle.

771
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: One of them was wide open Roma Dunese and it

772
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: just was an overthrow. Another one I can't remember who

773
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: it was. It might have been Luther Burden just didn't

774
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: connect on it and it wasn't anything but Caleb not

775
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: making a good throw.

776
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: That is killing me.

777
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: Do you get extra credit for making the spectacular but

778
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: not making the easy? But you win because of the spectacular.

779
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: Just win, baby, That's all matters to me.

780
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I'm about process as much as them about results.

781
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay visiting the Buffalo Bills.

782
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills.

783
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: Are five and a half point favorites. I'm going to

784
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: say something here. I feel like the oh interesting, you

785
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: want to say something?

786
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: No, I said say it?

787
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I think the Bucks.

788
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: Are getting dinged here more for losing than the Bills

789
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: are for losing, because it feels weird to me this

790
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: line is five and a half.

791
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: It should be lower.

792
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: I agree. So that's what scaring me off of it

793
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: a little bit, where it's like, just like this, since

794
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: the game, what are we not seeing here? Chad? Are

795
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: we too in love with this Bucks team? Because they

796
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: were so good to us earlier in the year, had

797
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: so many incredible wins when they were priced right, and

798
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: we're covering for us. Do not get this line at all.

799
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: This feels like I respect to this Bills team that

800
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: has not deserved the respect with this big where's that

801
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: secondary is suspect? I feel like Baker is going to

802
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: be able to get his even with these nameless guys

803
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: bizarre number. So yeah, like, let's be paid on this one.

804
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: I'll see what I can hear and talk to people

805
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: as you say here right now. I love the Bucks,

806
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: especially at five and a half, So something I must

807
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 3: be missing here. This just feels like such a good number.

808
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: And you know we all know the deal Josh Allen,

809
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: if you can find it and play in himself, Yeah,

810
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: they should roll here. This is a good match of

811
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: room against this Bucks team. But I feel like the

812
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: Bucks defense and embarrassing as it was last week against

813
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: the run. Don't you think the Boys would bounce back

814
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: here the following week like it was such a bad

815
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: loss for them. Where I know the Bills they can say, well,

816
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: we just had an embarrassing on ourselves. They don't have

817
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: the guys. You don't have a Vita vet. You just

818
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: I think they also another rookie to an injury this

819
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: past week, which is just it's never any of this

820
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: Pills and they just had a horrible injury look to

821
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: a defense. I couldn't afford to keep losing guys. So

822
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't love this match for this Pills team. But

823
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: I let me be patient here, make sure I'm not

824
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: missing something before I really put a lot of money

825
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: to this Buck side.

826
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: Well, here's what's interesting.

827
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: You just mentioned the rush game against the Bucks for

828
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Bucks gave up I think one hundred

829
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: and sixty six yards rushing in that game, one hundred

830
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: and twenty five of them or on those.

831
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: Two broken plays.

832
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: So are we looking at the Bucks defense as having

833
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: had a bad game or did the Bucks defense have

834
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: two bad plays?

835
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: And but Cook's that same style as Henderson. He can

836
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: break it. Yeah, but.

837
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: You know to that degree, it's hard to break big runs.

838
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: It's hard out understand.

839
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: So I don't automatically think just because they've got James

840
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Cook that he's gonna be able to do the same

841
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: things that Trevion Henderson did. I might have to lean

842
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: into this Bucks defense playing as it normally does. The

843
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: one thing that I can't get over, Bucky Irving might

844
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: just be much more important to this offense than we

845
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: even gave him credit for. And we gave him a

846
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: lot of credit, but it's not the same team since

847
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: he's been out with the foot and the shoulder and

848
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: he's not expected.

849
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: To play this week. Todd Bowles said.

850
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: Yesterday he did not think Bucky Irving was going to play,

851
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's making a much bigger difference for

852
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: Sead White is just a different player and as magical

853
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: as Baker is, if he doesn't have Bucky Bucky Irving,

854
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: and hee's down Mike Evans and he's down Chris Godwin,

855
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: even with the offensive line getting better, is there something

856
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: in the sauce that's missing that we're not seeing. I

857
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: agree that's fair La Chargers at the Jacksonville Jaguars.

858
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: Look, it's when we fade the Chargers.

859
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't know to tell you, like we we missed

860
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: betting on the Chargers last week when we knew we

861
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: should have.

862
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: Been betting on the Chargers. Uh, And we now would

863
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: normally want to bet on.

864
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 1: The Chargers as road favorites because they looked so good

865
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: last week, and we're like, all right, they figured it out.

866
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: You make quick passes, you don't let the offensive line

867
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: become a liability, and then we would bet them and

868
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: they'll go on the road as favorites and they'll loose

869
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: and they won't make us happy. So I'm just saying

870
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: right now, I don't even care who they're playing. We're

871
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: fading the Chargers.

872
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: Well they shockingly they've been winning on the road. They

873
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: just have not been covering for us. So you're right

874
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: they they've burned this exact spot twice.

875
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: A difference to me, Simon, I don't wins and losses. Yeah,

876
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: that's fair about my wins and losses.

877
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, hard Rock has already moved the unfortunately, like to me,

878
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: it's plus three. Go find it if you can on

879
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: the Jags. But I don't even know how much time

880
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: when I spend this one because I honestly hate this game, Chad.

881
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: I hate that I have to better, I hate that

882
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: IM have to watch it. I just do not enjoy

883
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: the trebor Lards betting experience. I never have, never will.

884
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: So this is the random time where I'll take that

885
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: number because I know it's the right one. The midle

886
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: thinks it's the right one. Chad just basically nailed it,

887
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 3: like we get burned by the Chargers here every time.

888
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: Now we're going the other side. We will definitely Chargers

889
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: by thirty points in this matchup. But now it's just

890
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: we talked the matchup wise that you saw Herbert even

891
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: against the Pittsburgh they feel like they got a way

892
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: with a bunch of stuff just because there's so many

893
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: turnovers by Rogers and everything kind of went their way.

894
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: Where this feels like a good spot right for this

895
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: Jaguars team and the fact that games should be a pick.

896
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: Jaguars gave up was the twenty nine points on a

897
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 3: fourth quarter embarrassing loss. This numbers moved a whole another

898
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: point to this Chargers team. So plus three, I'll take

899
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: on this Shacks team. But my guy, do I hate it?

900
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

901
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: Seattle let Los Angeles Rams, two of the best teams

902
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: in the conference. Right now, Rams are two and a

903
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: half point favors. This is one of those games where

904
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: I was referring to earlier, like open to three moved

905
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: to two and a half, and the Wise guys are

906
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: clearly coming on Seattle.

907
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: Talk to me.

908
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: I should have said, pause, Uh yeah, it's it's a

909
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: it's a great matchup Seahawks. How do we not take

910
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: them here? How do we not take the shocks? I

911
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: know why people are betting the Rams. The Rams are

912
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 3: getting all the early money. This number, like you just said,

913
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: it is two and a half. Now, a couple three

914
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: still out there you can find if you can. But

915
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: that's that's where I want to be the shocks. I

916
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: wanted to be on the three early. This Rams team,

917
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: I get it, they're an absolute juggernaut, right, No, they're

918
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: the hottest team of football. But there are things you

919
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: look at the matchup wise that the Seahawks team can

920
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: do that's gonna give the Rams real problems offensively. And

921
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see al Sean mcbays gonna counter that

922
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: because you know, this year we've been talking a lot

923
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: about this Yowks team has been a different team on

924
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: the road. This feels like the true test for them

925
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: on the road this year, right Like I'm I'm trying

926
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: to find another game this year they've faced the team

927
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: on the road that's at this type of level. I

928
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: really can't find it. And the Rams we've talked about,

929
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: they're probably the best off at some football right now.

930
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's.

931
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: A huge game, right this is their first time meeting

932
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: up in this division. Feels like they're the two teams

933
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: at the top. They're by far the two teams that

934
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: as an Eagles fan, probably give you the most worry

935
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: right now in football. So I, as an Egles fan,

936
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: can't wait to watch this one. This I would say

937
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: this is the game of the week. I know a

938
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: lot of people think Eagles Detroit is because I believe

939
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: they're both number one in their divisions right now. But

940
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: I love this type of game because divisionally, and like

941
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 3: you just said, it's the type of game that it's

942
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: going to have huge ramifications going forward. So Seattle wise,

943
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: our big warry here. It's we're back Darnald over Stafford

944
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: when Stafford's super high right now, and we're talking about

945
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: confidence with the last possession in the game, it's gonna

946
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: be Stafford. So I'm not shocked to see professionals and

947
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: early money here coming on the Rams at the two

948
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 3: and a half. But I just love this matchup wise,

949
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 3: Seahawks against this Rams offense. Defensively, on the flip side,

950
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't really think the Rams have guys that can

951
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: get stops against the Seahawks team that it's the play

952
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: action pass, it's what's working, and they don't have a

953
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: corner that could take away JSN. So I like the

954
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: matchup schipsmatically for the Seahawks team, So really really excited

955
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: to this one. Maybe a game we don't bet or

956
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: put in our contests because it's just going to be

957
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: a game where you don't really need to invest a

958
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: lot into because there's too many UKNOWN factors and how

959
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 3: good of a matchup it is. But at the three,

960
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: I think you got to take the Seahawks of that number.

961
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping it'll get back there. I don't know

962
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: if it will.

963
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: But I like Seattle's defense here. They are so good

964
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: at rushing the passer and if there's anything we know,

965
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: especially up the middle, if there's anything we know can

966
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: bother Matthew Stafford's pass rush up the middle where he's

967
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: got to evade going outside, and that's just harder for

968
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: him to do. It's always been hard for him to do,

969
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: even when he was younger, and now that he's older,

970
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: that to me is the biggest challenge. It's always the

971
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: biggest challenge for older quarterbacks. So when someone's coming at

972
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: you directly in front of you, it's hard to figure

973
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: out which way you're going to go, and you don't

974
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: have the legs to sort of get there. I really

975
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: like Seattle's defense. They're so freaking good, and I think

976
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: they're better than the Rams defense, to be honest, especially

977
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: from the pass rush. So, yeah, we don't have to

978
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: invest a ton in this, but we're gonna like Seattle

979
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be rooting for Seattle on Sunday San

980
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: Francisco at Arizona. So we talked about the Sunday night.

981
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: My first instinct was take the Cardinals of plus three.

982
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: The line has moved to two and a half. My

983
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: instinct was it's just natural off of a blowout loss.

984
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: The things that happened in that game against Seattle are unprecedented.

985
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: The same guy forcing a fumble to a teammate and

986
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: the same teammate picking up the fumble and running it

987
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: back for a touchdown, and that happened twice in the

988
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: first sixteen minutes of the game.

989
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: Holy smokes, another touchdown for the same.

990
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: Guy, and like after that, Simon.

991
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: After that, Cardinals played lights out and they actually outscored

992
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: the Seahawks the rest of the game.

993
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: So that's why I like the Cardinals.

994
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: They just got blown out, and it's the right side

995
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: the week after a blowout.

996
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's anesoly a good match for them

997
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: against what we keep talking about, a four niners defense

998
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 3: that they can only keep getting away with so much

999
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: scheme wise. Eventually, it does matter when you don't have

1000
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: players that can put any type of pressure on a

1001
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: quarterback right you need some type of pass rush. You

1002
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: don't have any type of cover corners. The Fred Warner injury.

1003
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: As the weeks have gone alonger, it's grown more and

1004
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: more where you just see in game adjustments just aren't

1005
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: the same about him in the middle. Commanded it there.

1006
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: So I I gave out the road talk I can

1007
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: give out, right, I gave out that Texans gave out

1008
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: Green Bay. People are gonna hat these next couple games.

1009
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: I just love all these home dogs, and it starts

1010
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: with this game here. So, like Chad said, if you

1011
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: can find the plus three, that's where I would prefer

1012
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: to be. Don't hate the two and a half. Just

1013
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: want to always get the best number available. So I

1014
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: don't know if this will be a game comes someday

1015
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 3: we'll even talk about really, because it's just it's just

1016
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: not going to be there with us with the number.

1017
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: We're not going to get a three and a half.

1018
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: We're only going to get a two and a half.

1019
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just don't love it. Like I like it.

1020
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: I'm betting at two and a half, but I'm not

1021
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: crazy about it, especially wh where we don't know who

1022
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: the quarterrecsent. You don't know if it's me, Mac or Pretty. Still,

1023
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: the foty nitrews have been really quiet about it. So

1024
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: I look at this as Pretty was close last week,

1025
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: maybe he comes back this week. But last week we

1026
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: said last week that wasn't really a Mac Jones' fault.

1027
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: They lost that game. So another game where I was like, Okay,

1028
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: maybe I'll be on the under here because I just

1029
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 3: know the polks that are coming really heavy on the

1030
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: end over Again, it's only Tuesday here. I've seen three

1031
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: different books that give out their betting line info. Ninety

1032
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: five to one hundred percent of the money is on

1033
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: the over in this matchup, so people love it here.

1034
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 3: I just like this. As a divisional game, it's always

1035
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: a risky bet, especially if it's a high total of

1036
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 3: forty eight and a half. So another sneaky little playout, like,

1037
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: here's the under in.

1038
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: This game, Simon.

1039
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens are visiting the Cleveland Browns at hard

1040
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Rock Bet. The Cleveland Browns are eight point underdogs. There

1041
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: are plenty of eight and a half's out there. I'm

1042
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: telling you right now, the Cleveland Browns plus eight are

1043
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: going to be Chad's Choice presented by hard Rock Bet.

1044
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to do this?

1045
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: Are you willing to make a choice? What choice? We

1046
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: can't run from a way out, sharp dudes can just

1047
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: see it, you know what I mean.

1048
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm obviously hoping and praying that Dylan Gabriel can find

1049
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: a way to get into the end zone at some

1050
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: point in this game. But really, we've established a pattern

1051
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: here that has worked well for us, not because it's

1052
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 1: a trend, but because we actually see this with our eyes.

1053
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: The Browns defense is just a different team at home.

1054
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: This is going back two seasons now in which they

1055
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: continue to be able to dominate against much better teams

1056
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: at home and keep themselves in a position to win

1057
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: these games. And right now we're getting a Baltimore Ravens

1058
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: team that has won three in a row that now

1059
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: just looked great against the Vikings team that everyone expected

1060
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: might be a little bit closer of a game, and

1061
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a massive, massive number in

1062
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: the division against a still very stingy defense.

1063
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: So give me the stingy defense. You know.

1064
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: I like to bet a team when I feel like

1065
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: they're massive underdogs and I know they can have at.

1066
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: Least one dominant.

1067
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: Area of the game between offense, defense and special teams.

1068
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: They've got a unit, and I think their defensive unit

1069
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: can be dominant.

1070
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a game we both pick Sunday night, and

1071
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: I knew right away. It's like, Okay, this is a

1072
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: good game. We're probably gonna be talking Sunday morning, but

1073
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: we just everything about it. We love, love the matchup

1074
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: of the scheme. Wise, like you said, these teams already

1075
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: played Ravens won forty one to seventeen much earlier in

1076
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 3: this season. And as much as you want to take

1077
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: away from that game that this Brown seam, maybe it

1078
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: doesn't match up well for them, Like we said, that's

1079
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: on the road. It's a difference. They're just a different

1080
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: team at home this season. Believe the most points they've

1081
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 3: lost by is four. So we've just seen they play

1082
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: close games at home. It's a really tough team to

1083
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: beat at home, you know, the Browns. As bad as

1084
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: that loss was against that Juts team. You know, we

1085
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: said it's special teams. Like Gabriel wasn't that terrible. It

1086
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: seems like he's getting more comfortable in this offense as

1087
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: the season is going along here, So like we need one,

1088
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: we need one from him. Needn't get a one or

1089
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: two touchdows from at least because Lamar will eventually get

1090
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: his just the way it is, he's one of the

1091
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: best players in all football. So matchup wise, can they

1092
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: take away the run? Can they keep a little more contained?

1093
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: They got the guys like that's this front is just

1094
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: so impressive, so dominant, So both love it, can't avoid it.

1095
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: Like you said, shop around for the eight and a

1096
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: half people, it's such a key number, go get it.

1097
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: Could see this being like Miami though, could see this

1098
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: get into seven seven and a half by kickoff as

1099
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: a professional when he comes in. But it's gonna be

1100
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: funny see what the Brooks do with it, because it's

1101
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: gonna be huge parlays, huge teasers. Everyone's just fully comfortable

1102
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: all in on this Ravens team, especially after last week

1103
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: where they won so big for us and the public.

1104
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: It was a big win in a cover by them.

1105
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: I think everyone's slowly bought in now at this point

1106
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: on this Ravens team.

1107
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally true, all true. Everything you just said, Cleveland

1108
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,959
Speaker 1: Browns Chat Choice presented by hard Rock Bet Kansas City

1109
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: at Denver. You like this one on Sunday Night? You

1110
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: like Kansas City. You said Kansas City minus three. It

1111
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: has now moved to three and a half.

1112
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: No way, did I really?

1113
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: I think you did? Didn't you?

1114
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: Oh man?

1115
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: I could have sworn you did.

1116
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh By the way, I do have one more stat

1117
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: for the Browns that I forgot to mention from Killer Sports.

1118
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: Teams playing their third straight road game, coming off a

1119
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: straight up and against the spread wind like the Ravens,

1120
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: the opposing team is sixty five.

1121
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: Percent against the spread. I'm wrong. You like Denver. I'm

1122
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: looking at right now. You like Denver.

1123
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: This was like a Denver line Denver game in a

1124
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: million different ways where I knew this time would be

1125
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: semi inflated, thought it would be four four and a half,

1126
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: maybe we get there, And we always talked about we

1127
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: just don't try my homes as more than a three

1128
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 3: point favorite, especially in divisional against these type of games

1129
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: where we just know it's gonna be grueling, ugly close

1130
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: type of games. So not shockingly everyone hates Denver now,

1131
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 3: I mean, that was painful to watch last Thursday. Costs

1132
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 3: a bunch of people, a bunch of money. And you know,

1133
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: the Chiefs still look like one of the best teams

1134
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: in all football right when it's clicking for them offensive.

1135
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: I know the record doesn't reflect it, but we all

1136
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: view them this is one of the better teams. So

1137
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 3: I hope this gets higher. I was gonna make this,

1138
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: Simon says, but I didn't just because I do think

1139
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: we could get a four to four and a half here.

1140
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: I just could see a ton of public love for

1141
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: this Chiefs team, and I could see the professionals being

1142
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: patient because this won't dip back to three. There's just

1143
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: no way the books take a stand that way. So

1144
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 3: I do like Denver here, but I'm not gonna make

1145
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: it better yet. I do think we can get some

1146
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: fours here poping up pretty soon.

1147
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: All right.

1148
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: To be clear, you did say Denver on Sunday night.

1149
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: I misremembered.

1150
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: It is weak. It was late.

1151
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: It was late at the end of those days. I'm

1152
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: a mass man. I'm tired, I'm a little dehydrated.

1153
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: My head starts to hurt a little bit. You know,

1154
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: you're not yourself on Sunday mornings. Sunday night. I'm a

1155
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: morning guy.

1156
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: You're an evening guy.

1157
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's the fact I've been up twenty

1158
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: four hours straight. By that point, I'm already kind of loopy,

1159
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 3: ye until living my mind by.

1160
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: Then could be well. By that point, I've been up,

1161
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, thirteen hours straight, and so I'm exhausted.

1162
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Primetime Spotlight. We got some

1163
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: island games, standalone games.

1164
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Detroit plus two at Philadelphia.

1165
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, famous for the.

1166
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 4: Liberty Bell, Blue Laws soft pretzels.

1167
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: True Philadelphia fan learns daboo before he learns to speak.

1168
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: I think.

1169
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: On Sunday night, we both talked about liking Detroit, but

1170
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: we wanted to wait to see what happened in the

1171
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: Monday night game because we thought the line would move.

1172
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: It was at one and a half, it's two at hard.

1173
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: It's two and a half in a lot of other places.

1174
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: I still like Detroit here. I feel like it's a

1175
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: pretty good spot for them. And I don't know that

1176
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: what we saw offensively from the Eagles last night was

1177
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: an anomaly. It seems to be how they play the

1178
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: game with a lot a lot of rhythm, with some

1179
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: weird play calling, and they win. They find ways to win.

1180
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: But I think Detroit's offense, with Dan Campbell calling the plays,

1181
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: might have a better chance to find their rhythm as well.

1182
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: Huge, huge mistake. No, I'm not gonna give you two

1183
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: more of a time about it. I did like the Lions.

1184
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was probably a good spot, but already

1185
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: took some shit about my love for the lines and

1186
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: how I'm stepping in it, walking in really a little bit.

1187
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: And it is fair like they've faced one good defense

1188
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: this year, this Lion's team, and they put up seventeen

1189
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: points against the Chiefs. This is not a good matchup

1190
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 3: for golf. Like you just saw that front now Phillips

1191
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: on this Eagles team, they got some guys now Befron,

1192
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: they can get pressure and one on one matchups against

1193
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: other teams quarterbacks, So I'll be patient here. I hate

1194
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: when I do get flipped all these type of games

1195
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: and the number has gone against me. Like if this

1196
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: was one and a half, I've said, I still feel

1197
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: much better about the Eagles team, Like you said, now

1198
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: it's up to two to two and a half. I

1199
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: don't know how much I'm gonna really dig in here,

1200
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: but it seems like Eagles might be the wrong side

1201
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: this Lions team, as good as they are, they do

1202
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 3: have some flaws. Defensively, they are banged up, and I

1203
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 3: don't know if Campbell call on your offenses to where

1204
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: you want to be. I really don't like that. When

1205
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: I heard that, I was like, ah Man, Campbell's now

1206
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: they're offensive coordinator, Like Chad's gonna get his wish A

1207
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: lot of runs up the middle and fourth and one.

1208
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: I guarantee you that even if you could stop three

1209
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: times in a row. So I don't know, Like this

1210
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: is a team that, like we said, they got embarrassed

1211
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: with that Chiefs game, then they we loved them in

1212
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: the spot they beat up on the Bucks at home,

1213
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: had to buy a week, lost to JJ McCarthy, and

1214
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: then just beat up on a Washington team. So I

1215
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: just have a lot of questions that much be a

1216
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: question about this Eagles team. It's a good number for them.

1217
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: They're at home under a field goal, catching a team

1218
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: that might be overvalued and overrated publicly just because they

1219
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: already forgot about that bad Vikings loss and they just

1220
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: come off a dominant win. So I just have some

1221
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: little questions here about why the pros hit me up

1222
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: so hard about beating on the Eagles. And they were

1223
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: right once again last night about the Eagles team. That

1224
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: was a game they covered from the minute the game

1225
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: kicked off to the very end. They covered the entire

1226
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: way through. So yeah, we might be understanding this Eagles

1227
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: team that just it doesn't look pretty Chad, but they

1228
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: keep winning. And I think they're six and one down

1229
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: one score games this season. It's under a field goal,

1230
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: so this might be an Eagles line.

1231
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: All right, Look, I can be agreeable, and uh, look

1232
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: what I thought about this last night. There was one

1233
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: of the plays where Jalen Hurts was pushed out of

1234
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: the pockets scrambling right early in the game to convert

1235
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: a third down. I forgot who he hit and Shipley

1236
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: I think Will Shipley, Yeah, and.

1237
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: He was so.

1238
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: Relaxed and smooth and unbothered, and that's how he's always

1239
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: playing as quarterback of the Eagles.

1240
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: Like it just all seems as though he's seen it,

1241
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: he gets it.

1242
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: He understands how to win, which he has done his

1243
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: entire career going back to college, so I get it.

1244
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: Like it's a hard team.

1245
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: Took him a quarter to shake that fumble, though instantly enough,

1246
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: like you're saying, frustrated, he did seem after that he

1247
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: was like forcing throws that usually doesn't force and it's

1248
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 3: like they need again in his ear tell him to

1249
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: kind of bring it back. So yeah, like, I will

1250
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: not be shocked if this is one of the most

1251
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: public dogs of the week Detroit. The Eagles looks so

1252
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 3: bad on a short week now facing the Detroit team

1253
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: that looks so good in the eyes of the public.

1254
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's an interesting line that the book's opened

1255
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 3: here with.

1256
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: We still low with Simon says, and there's only one

1257
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: game left. It's Dallas at Las Vegas.

1258
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: Vegas is a three and a half point dog. By

1259
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: the way, this line on Sunday Monday was Dallas minus

1260
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: one and a half, so it's gone up two points

1261
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: at this point.

1262
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: Simon, what say you.

1263
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 3: Chad knows me so well. Simon says, give me Las

1264
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: Vegas or A eight is plus three and a half.

1265
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 3: I want to play a game. Simon says, I feel

1266
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: like all year, I'm gonna keep telling people you fade

1267
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: Dallas when they're more than a three point favorite, and

1268
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: it's hit every game. I'm trying to think what game

1269
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: we lost this year on it. There was some stupid

1270
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: game that one. But yeah, like just this matchup, it

1271
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: feels like the same with the Panthers. Panthers were three

1272
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: and a half. They covered it. Cardinals are three and

1273
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: a half against this Dallas team covered went out right.

1274
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: It's just an offense that you know, the Broncos were

1275
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: a really good defense and they did what we thought

1276
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: they would do right. Like again, I can't believe we

1277
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: didn't cover that. If you would have told me the

1278
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: Raiders road score seven points out of block field goal,

1279
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: block punt, you know, nine penalties, you would think you

1280
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: would have covered that one. But this Raiders team is

1281
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: still playing hard, I mean as bad as I thought

1282
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: they would look. It's a team that has been playing

1283
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: hard for their coach, and when you look at this matchup,

1284
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: I think they're under rating this, you know, getting rid

1285
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: of Myers and the fact that this offense, you know,

1286
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: people look are just so downplaying them because of that

1287
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 3: Broncos game where you know, getting Brock Bowers back. It's

1288
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: a huge upgrade to this team. I know they didn't

1289
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: use them in the previous week, but against Dallas, who

1290
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Speaker 3: cannot cover the middle of the field, this is the

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Speaker 3: matchup for him. So, you know, Dak, this is a

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Speaker 3: get right game for him. He can put up a

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Speaker 3: ton of points. But I just see this this team

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Speaker 3: keeping up with them and this being a closer game

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Speaker 3: than people realize. So as a city here right now,

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of threes out there. I'm seeing a

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Speaker 3: lot of books move to three and a half. So

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Speaker 3: getting well you can Hard Rock is one of the

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Speaker 3: first books to get to three and a half. I

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Speaker 3: do think I'll go back down as professionals coming on

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Speaker 3: this Raiders team. But we'll see, you know, like we

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Speaker 3: always say, the Monday night games, the public is a

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Speaker 3: ton of users, tuple of money line parlay is all

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Speaker 3: tied to that money line that Monday game. So right

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Speaker 3: now we're looking at a Dallas team on the road,

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Speaker 3: probably even getting by kickoff eighty percent of the money,

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Speaker 3: eighty percent of the tickets. Like that's I just think

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Speaker 3: the public's gonna hammer them this matchup. So a dog

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Speaker 3: at home getting that least amount of money like that,

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Speaker 3: I just love this matchup for this Raiders team.

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Speaker 2: All right, Look, we.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of games to talk about on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to talk about the Browns. We're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about Cincinnati. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Houston because we want to know who's playing quarterback. We'll

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Speaker 1: be curious about Green Bay to see how that number moves.

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Speaker 3: And the Houston there is there is a six and

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Speaker 3: a half out there. Now. People are gonna hear this

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Speaker 3: six and a half half.

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Speaker 1: Pop Now, we gotta go bet six and a half

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Speaker 1: on Houston the box. We're very curious to see how

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Speaker 1: the line moves on the Bears and the Vikings, the Jags.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about it Seattle.

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Speaker 1: We're interested in Arizona if we can get it to three.

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Speaker 1: We're interested in Denver plus three and a half. We

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Speaker 1: want more on the Philly Detroit game in Las Vegas

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01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: plus three and a half. A Simon says, man it

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Speaker 1: is gonna be busy.

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Speaker 3: Another and one more line shift before we go. Jets

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Speaker 3: up to twelve and a half now, so oh my god,

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Speaker 3: probably gonna have probably gonna get the thirteen shot. We're

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Speaker 3: not gonna have a choice, but the bettt come Thursday

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Speaker 3: night once I get to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Poor jets, Poor jets.

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Speaker 1: All right, this has been Sharper Square, part of the

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Speaker 1: Volume podcast network. We'll be back on Thursday with the

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