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Speaker 1: All right, So this is Tim Dillon. It's always unintentionally

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Speaker 1: like a cold open because I just want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. So I don't know, do you think my audience?

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Speaker 1: What percentage of my audience, which is mostly women, presumably know.

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Speaker 2: Who you are? You no clue? Love of small tinies?

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Speaker 2: Do you think maybe more? Well?

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Speaker 1: When I've posted about your feel like, have you been

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Speaker 1: surprised that some people have been like, wow, I love him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Some of the yes, some of them do. I'm

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Speaker 2: very bad with knowing percentages of any all literal data.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think like.

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Speaker 2: Women?

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Speaker 1: Do women listen to a lot of women listen to

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Speaker 2: But we have more men than women. Were on YouTube

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Speaker 2: and were on everywhere, but YouTube is primarily a male audience.

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Speaker 2: I come from the Joe Rogan universe that appeals to men.

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Speaker 1: But why am I like always friends with and attracted

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Speaker 2: Think we're all damaged people, and I think we're we're

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Speaker 2: and I think you like that. I think that's part

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Speaker 2: of your attract You're also very funny. You've used humor

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Speaker 1: That's again it's like a kindred spirit because also like

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Speaker 1: I was shocked I told you I did stand up

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well tell me how on f well? I actually

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Speaker 1: if I were to, like if there were like a

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Speaker 1: better grade. But if, like all things being equal, the

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Speaker 2: People laughed. It was great, I was was it? It

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been there?

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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Okay, is it a good one? Is it okay? So

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Speaker 1: what happened was I wanted to do this because someone

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Speaker 1: gave myself ten days. That was they said that they

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Speaker 1: The audience was wearing masks six feet apart. Crazy, So

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Speaker 2: It's not ideal. When people are wearing masks, you cannot

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Speaker 2: see their facial expressions. You can't the laughter is muffled.

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Speaker 2: It's the worst.

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Speaker 1: And for them too, they're probably not as free, right

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Speaker 2: You could be funny on your phone, You could be funny.

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Speaker 1: Right, So it did not well, I want to before

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Speaker 1: I felt like by texting and I'm name dropping now

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Speaker 1: Like I just Michael Rapper. I blanketed the story.

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Speaker 1: Comedians like really fucked you know, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: I think most comedians would definitely help somebody who wanted

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Speaker 1: These are major comedians who wasn't Like I asked people

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you have a personality you you didn't

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Speaker 2: and I want, oh, like, but that's how people that's.

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Speaker 2: I said it was easy to be a Diddy fan

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Speaker 2: this is as bad as you say that.

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Speaker 1: Do you have that monologue you have that say that

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Speaker 2: did sketches on the tette that did very well for

437
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: me and got me fans like. I like that. I

438
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: don't dislike it. It just I don't. I don't have

439
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 2: like an overarching idea of what it has to be.

440
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 1: I'm the exact same I do. I go with it

441
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 1: where I like, just go sure, I do. It moves

442
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 1: me and some meant.

443
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 2: To be kind of where it's not meant to be.

444
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,719
Speaker 2: I think for several of my friends that are on

445
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 2: that show that they that was their dream or they

446
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 2: fit perfectly into it, or they loved it. And you know,

447
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 2: so what how fucked up?

448
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 1: On a zero to ten?

449
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 2: Was your childhood? Like, I don't know, because it's there's always.

450
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 1: No, you're not cigarettes, weren't putting out of a.

451
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 2: Saying an aa. Every bottom has a basement. So like

452
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: every time I think it's bad, and it wasn't great,

453
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: schizophrenic mom, the parents were not around. I was doing

454
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: coked thirteen like me.

455
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: So based on what you know about my life, less

456
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: someone the same same or more or less.

457
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: Act similar okay similar, maybe you have a little more crazy,

458
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: but maybe not. I don't know.

459
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm saying, like you had food on the table. Yeah,

460
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: so that's and you were and lit cigarettes weren't being put.

461
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 2: Out right, And I was not physically abused and I

462
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 2: was not.

463
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: Did you witness a lot of physical or sexual abuse

464
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: or nothing like that.

465
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: I did not witness any sexual abuse, physical abuse, not.

466
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: There was a lot of slamming of doors and screaming

467
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: and stuff. Okay, but it was not like people's heads

468
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: weren't going through the wall. That's mine.

469
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, you know, but it was they were

470
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: just not you know, you weren't parented.

471
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 2: They were I was raised kind of it was the

472
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: wild West. But again, now I hear other people to

473
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: go I was not, but I was abused, God forbid

474
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: sexual Like that wasn't my story. Okay, but my story

475
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: was like I'm running around doing blow when I'm thirteen

476
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: because you know, my mother there is like not present

477
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: and my father is not present. Rules are guardians in

478
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: a band, and my mother is like, you know, they're not.

479
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 2: They weren't bad people, they were just not good parents.

480
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: It sounds like I describe your childhood's free range parenting.

481
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: Free range parents. And by the way, it wasn't that

482
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: unusual totally for the era. Totally. It wasn't like total,

483
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: like my friend's parents might have been a little more regimented,

484
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: but it was still you had a wide berth as

485
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: a kid back then. Go out. No, it's never where

486
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: are you going? Can I have the parents' number? Can

487
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: I call them? Are the parents going to be there?

488
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: It was we're going out, We're going to the park,

489
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 2: We're going to hang out, We're going for pizza. We'll

490
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: see you in five hours minimum.

491
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: No. No, the door was open. The mother was smoking,

492
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: drinking wine while pregnant.

493
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: Barbagoulahan was sick. She's on a who we loved, and

494
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: she passed away. But she would sit on the thing

495
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: and she'd smoke her bot and she'd say the thing

496
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: that I think is one of the greatest things I've

497
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: ever heard. She goes, now buzz, she used to talk

498
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: like this. She goes buys. If you get any trouble tonight,

499
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: don't call here, she goes. I know a lot of

500
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: people say if their kids get in trouble, we want

501
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: to be the first call. She goes. If you get arrested,

502
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: if you get in a car and drink, if you

503
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 2: do anything, do not call here. I take the phone

504
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: off the hook at eleven thirty. Do not call here.

505
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: She'd smoke a cigarette. You go, so have fun, have fun,

506
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: but don't call here. Basically like, go do what you want,

507
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: but if you fuck up, this will be on it.

508
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: It was a generation of latchkey parenting. Yet this is

509
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: not like I was going into the city on the train.

510
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: First of all, at thirteen, I was at the Rafters

511
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: in Saratoga partying all night, right. But at fourteen, I

512
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: was going on the Long Island Railroad into the city,

513
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: going to the Palladium, walking up to Howard as my

514
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: mother taught me to do with my my my fake

515
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: ID and I. She was like, you act like you

516
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: belong to get in right, And I would act like

517
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: I belong and I would end up in the Michael

518
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Todd room at the Palladium, and it was the greatest exhilaration.

519
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: But this is gonna sound crazy. Yes, I drink more now,

520
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: like I get more wild. I was responsible. I was

521
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: a responsible person that yes did happen to do cocaine

522
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: and the Michael Todd room. And like I was like

523
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: an adult as a child, it just was like you,

524
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: I grow up quick, I just was.

525
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: I think when you realize too, and I realized my

526
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: mother was kind of off, and even though she was

527
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: a really good person, a passionate person, a smart person,

528
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: shed issues. And I think when you realize your parents

529
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: aren't parents, you have to grow up.

530
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you are an adult. Yeah they're not parent,

531
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: but they're also sort of peers. I think back then,

532
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: parenting wasn't like your parenting as a verb. You were

533
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: just a parent. We were a parent, but you weren't parenting.

534
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 2: No. I mean the great example of this is when

535
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: you know another you know family, I won't mention their names,

536
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: but you know, back then you were also very close

537
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 2: with your friend's families.

538
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: Like they you could be there for three weeks, eating

539
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: dinner at the house every night.

540
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: They imprinted on you. Yes, right, and you know, like this.

541
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: If it cost any money, because you weren't going vacation.

542
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: You're living there eating.

543
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: And you know, one day my friend's mother said, and

544
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: we're all sitting there and we were like, maybe, you know,

545
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, sixteen and she said, you know, at

546
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: eighteen years old, she goes, it's really time for you

547
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: guys to start your own life. Like she was basically

548
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: saying like, we've had fun, we've enjoyed this time that

549
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: we've all spent together, but me and your father really

550
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 2: want to get a condo in Naples. And you know,

551
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: this is this is now your life, This is not

552
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: my life. She goes, so our lives are going to part.

553
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: And she would say this to all of us as

554
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: we were sitting there, and she'd be talking to her son,

555
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: but in a way to all of us where she'd

556
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: go that, you know, this has been great, but now

557
00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: it's time. So now it's so different. People are so

558
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: much more. You have the location on the phone, Well

559
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: why are you there? And somebody will answer and go, Hi,

560
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: I'm at the Apple store. Because what are you doing

561
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: at the Apple store? My friend will call her son,

562
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: why are you with the Apples? I need a headphone?

563
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: Why don't you have your headphone? Like it's a whole thing.

564
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: Well here's if you need to live somewhere till you're thirty,

565
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: now you can do it. Oh my god. Where when

566
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: we they would literally go, we want to rent out

567
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: these rooms. They would say stuff like that. They'd be like,

568
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: we don't, you're gonna pay rent? Like it was it

569
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: was an economic. The house was an economic thing.

570
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: Well, I find a couple things now in meeting different men,

571
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: I want to tell you a couple of dynamics you'll

572
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: find interesting. First of all, I'm meeting different men. A

573
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: lot of the big things they want to say is

574
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: I'm very involved. It makes me want to punch them

575
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: in the face. I can't explain it, just like a

576
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: very involved parent.

577
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck.

578
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: I don't know why it bothers me. It's just like

579
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: you want a cookie. I can't explain it annoys me

580
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: the way it annoys room and men like I eat clean.

581
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, ew, just not something you need to say.

582
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's annoying. Yeah, but I find

583
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: that not just that people are letting the kids run

584
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: the program. Like as much as my daughter listened, she's

585
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: full in first class to Emirates, she's been to Paris

586
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Fashion Week. No one's crying for her. But I am.

587
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: I do not negotiate with terrorists like they'll be this

588
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: little thing. There's like this little sort of like threshold

589
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: where they think like they're voting members of the community.

590
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: They really and I don't will like listen out crowdsource

591
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: what she wants to do, I wanna go this weekend,

592
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: or we're gonna go here, whatever, But like if it

593
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: pushes towards what I know is right in the universe,

594
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: Like let's say I'm dating someone. Let's say I'm dating

595
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: someone seriously, but she's not like ready for that. And

596
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: they're not short, bald, old, they check all, they're not

597
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: gold diggers, they're all the things we discuss good energy

598
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: matchic she wanted, and she'll like, I don't know, it

599
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: might be like a little too soon, or might be whatever.

600
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: And I literally will have said this to my daughter.

601
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: I've said, I'm fifty three, it's not that fucking cute. Okay,

602
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: at fifty eight dating, it's not gonna be cute. So

603
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: if you want me to be the old lady with

604
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: the cats saying why aren't you spending time with me,

605
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I'm telling you that, like mom has

606
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: still got some game and I've got some good interests.

607
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be dating, like and there's going

608
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: to be someone, and I'm going to keep you in

609
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: mind as do they like kids? And do we not

610
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: have little two year olds? Because none of us want that.

611
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: And I'll talk to you as a partner in this household.

612
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: But like, ultimately I'm a great mom. You're safe. I'm

613
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: living my life too.

614
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: Bro.

615
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: Like I will say that to my kid and she

616
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: will get it because it's like, I'm not living your life.

617
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you are. Say with the friends, how are you

618
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: with the friend? Because what's interesting.

619
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: About what do you think of that? Do you think

620
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: that's right or wrong?

621
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: When I said I think it's right. But to me,

622
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: what's interesting is how are you with the friends? Her friends? Yeah, okay,

623
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: so she'll have I Do you look at one of them?

624
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Yes, troublemaker. Talk to the other parents, find out that

625
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: that's the one. Find out that other parents have a problem,

626
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and make it be known and find

627
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: that because that's where the slippery slope really happens.

628
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: That's one.

629
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: It's that you take the rotten apple next to the

630
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: right apple, and that right now.

631
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: So I was hanging out when I was thirteen years old,

632
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: Me and my other thirteen year old friends were hanging

633
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: out with nineteen year old cocaine dealers. That's the problem.

634
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Diamond Bob for Lauderdale, Florida. My daughter may never listen

635
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: to this posdeige.

636
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: So this is what I mean, Like when we're hanging

637
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: out with twenty year olds and we're fourteen and they're

638
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: driving us around the world getting high and it's not

639
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: like we advertise this to our parents, but they weren't

640
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 2: present and they had no idea it. It is a

641
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: huge thing. Like as I grow up, like when I

642
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: was my nineties, ethos of everyone's an individual and it

643
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what who your friends are, You're your own thing.

644
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 2: As I get older, I do understand community more and

645
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: influences more. So I look at kids and I go, Obviously,

646
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm thirty nine, I'm not a parent, but I go,

647
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: I almost think more important than the school they go

648
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: to or their extra is their friends.

649
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: But word, and I'm and I'm yeah, I'm on the case.

650
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: I got threw down with a mom. I'm on the case.

651
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do if it went

652
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: sideways and it has a.

653
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: Little grew a mom Like I just full on.

654
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Went in about something I got done in a couple.

655
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't give a ship. I just

656
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

657
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like kind of laid into her and

658
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: let her know where the weaby pad was and wasn't

659
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: and and but did it in a strategic way so

660
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't blow the whole thing up my daughter in

661
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: school and whatever. But like I would have been if

662
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: I weren't a public person, I'd be that mother like

663
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: showed up and rollers and a cigarette down at that

664
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: fucking school, screaming at everybody. Like and I would have

665
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: been that crazy mother. That's me.

666
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: That's a fun woman.

667
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: That's that's who I am in my body. Like, let's

668
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: put it this way, this actually happened. Okay, let's pretend

669
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: one of her schools she got to different schools. I

670
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: had seen her playing a sport at one school, and

671
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: then we were at another school, and she said that,

672
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: like the coach was letting them go early, and like

673
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: I watched them all and it's a better school, more expensive,

674
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: more elite school, and I watched them all look like

675
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: the bad news bearers, and it was like, not really

676
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: for good reason, and there was not really being a

677
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: lot of coaching. I can't believe that I was the

678
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: person that found out. There was a father next to me,

679
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: the man, and he was like, oh my god, this

680
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: is horrendous, and he's complaining, give me all the reasons

681
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not very involved, right, So I go to

682
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: my assistant, just get me the guy who's in charge

683
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: of all the athletics at this particular school, and I

684
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: got him on the phone. I was super nice. I

685
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I don't know much. I don't know

686
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: a lot.

687
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: I go.

688
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know much. But I was at this other

689
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: school and they're not supposed.

690
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: To be way.

691
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: Better than this. I watched this. You're better than this.

692
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I know they leave early. Sometimes you gotta pull this together.

693
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm just telling I'm not gonna call a bunch of times.

694
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm not the squeaky wheel. I'm just telling you I

695
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: watched it myself. This is not great. And I asked

696
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: my daughter if I could she minded me doing it

697
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: because she felt like a loser too, being on the

698
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: loser teange right, And it did. I sort of got

699
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: a course corrected. It's just that they're not going to

700
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: the Olympics. But I just am saying like it just

701
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of jacked it up a little. So I will

702
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a Karen when it comes

703
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: to like lodging a complaint.

704
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: Good. I think that's an important thing to do, right.

705
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so I I'm I'm the not fucking around program. Mom,

706
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm we could go and well we could buy something,

707
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: not even buy experiences.

708
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: But you can tell when the kids come over, can

709
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: you tell? You can look at one of them and go,

710
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: this is going to be an issue one hundred percent.

711
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: And with me, I know the ones who are super

712
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: into me and want to bond with me on do

713
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: your lip gloss and like kiss my ass, and they

714
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: are the thirsty for the fame and that stuff, and

715
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: so that I hate. Also, that's a different dynamic. They

716
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: want to like be around all the time and they

717
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, they want to be in a TikTok of

718
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: mine or something. So I don't that I don't like

719
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: for my daughter because I feel like, are they then

720
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: using her? That's a different brand. But that's right, there's

721
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: that too. So anyway, Yeah, so would you take the

722
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: free range parenting or this over coddling parenting if you

723
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: had to?

724
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: You gotta split the differ right down the middle. You

725
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: gotta split the difference. I think part of the what

726
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: made I'm writing a book about this now and finishing it. Yeah,

727
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: it's called it's called Death by Boomers, and it's about

728
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: the way we all grew up part of that generation.

729
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: And what made them very funny is that they were deeply,

730
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: deeply selfish, and they were told that that they were.

731
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: It was about them, and their kids were not. Their

732
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: kids were part of it, but they were not the

733
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: whole thing.

734
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: This is the Dennis Leary program. He had nine kids,

735
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: and they took care of each other. And that's why

736
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: they had nine kids, so they could be like they're

737
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: doing a commune and the parents what they wanted to parents.

738
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: And I grew up with parents, and they, you know,

739
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: and my friend's parents, they were all very similar. It

740
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: was about them where they wanted to live. We worked

741
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: hard our whole lives. You kids have no idea how

742
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: tough it's been. For it's actually was the easiest person

743
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: the easiest run of any generation ever. They had for

744
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: the most part, outside of Vietnam, no war, it was peaceful,

745
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: They had low interest rates, they had a pretty good economy.

746
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Like they've created this narrative of victimhood that's completely unrre true,

747
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: and they would always sit us down, or you have

748
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: no idea difficult now. Conversely, their parents went through World

749
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: War two, the Great Depression, plagues. It's like, you know,

750
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: actual problems, and the Boomer generation kind of creates this

751
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: narrative that they've been the most put upon generation ever,

752
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: which isn't true, and that is their reason why they

753
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: have to.

754
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: Be the Only problem I have with the whole thing

755
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: you're saying is that, like, so you and I are

756
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: a fairly new friendship, but like we like being together,

757
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: like talking to each other, like hanging out, like we're

758
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: having a relationship. I like having a relationship with my

759
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: daughter because she's a very interesting, cool person, So I

760
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: enjoy not because like I have to be her mommy

761
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: all the time and do the costumes and perform. I

762
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: actually she's another human being, and I, like you, I

763
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: laughed at her, like experiencing with her. I like, you know,

764
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: it's not just an unmolding her. So that's the flaw

765
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: with the only flaw with that program I think. I

766
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: think Actually the program I discussed where parents are like

767
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: letting their kids run the story, that's also not realistic

768
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: because the kids are inmates running the asylum. That's also

769
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: not a relationship. And then also just being an adult

770
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: that has like these tenants in your house.

771
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: The boomers looked at their kids as like impediments to

772
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: their happiness, right, tenants. Tenants, You're like, you're in my way.

773
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: I want to do this, you're here.

774
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: And then why did they have them?

775
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, they just felt like I think that's all they

776
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: get exposed to the live woodsell like Woodstock was. This

777
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: whole idea was like all these people are like into

778
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: like really like transformational vibrational energy. You know, they were

779
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: drug addicts. It was selfish drug addicts and want to

780
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: have sex in a field exactly.

781
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: That's right.

782
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: So this whole idea of like, no, they were challenging

783
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: power structures with the psychedelics, and it's like, no, they weren't.

784
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: They were getting high exactly. So then you understand them

785
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: and they're fun, and you understand them in a much

786
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: different way than you would have understood them. How have

787
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: you taken all this at face value? When you kind

788
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: of get under the mythos of Woodstock and the hippies

789
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: and how that was kind of bullshit, And then you

790
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: get under the mythos of like that they were like

791
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: this the other that they had it so hard and stuff,

792
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: but they were very and the part of the point

793
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: of my book is no generation was funnier. They were

794
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: because they were the most unique. They didn't care and

795
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: to be funny, you're.

796
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Talking about the now, but what about the generation of

797
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: like you that's born from them and like me, we're

798
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: we're funny too.

799
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: But nobody was funnier or had less awareness than the

800
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: generation of our patent. Nobody cared less. My father the

801
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: other day.

802
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: Oh we are we won down from Archie Bunker, like

803
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: uh kind of.

804
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: But my father the other day, my step sister was

805
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: going on and on about climate change or whatever. My

806
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: dad would just look through and he goes, you know

807
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: when you really start paying attention to the weather when

808
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: you get a boat, because him and his wife just

809
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: got a boat, and he started talking about how hard

810
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: it was for them to both. They are so not

811
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: on earth, these people. It makes them the funniest group

812
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: of people to me because they are completely out of

813
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: it in a way that's like unreal. They're not on

814
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: earth anymore, and they're just kind of like there and

815
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: it's about them, and they're a lot of fun as

816
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: long as you don't have to depend on them to

817
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: become a person.

818
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: They're so fucking selfish and hilarious.

819
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, real, how selfish and funny. They are my dad's

820
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: a yeah when you get a boat, because that's when

821
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: you start to pay attention.

822
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: And they're not flexible whatsoever. They're great on like a lot.

823
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: Walk into my father's house. They have something on the thing.

824
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: It says, I just want to drink wine and pet

825
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: my dogs. And that's their quote. And he has three dogs,

826
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: and that's what they want. They don't care. They don't

827
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: care if any If you bring up the Middle East

828
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: or China, they look at you like you have ten

829
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: heads and they start talking about their dog. Immediately, I

830
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: think that.

831
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: You and I have a little here's the thing. So

832
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: there's this guy break there's like life coach. I hate

833
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: that word, but I've known him for years and he

834
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: actually gives. He's very good and he doesn't believe in obligation,

835
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: and I actually like it. But either of my parents, No,

836
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't really. I don't really either, meaning I believe

837
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: in doing what you. I do a lot of things

838
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't know I wouldn't necessarily choose to do, but

839
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 1: it's like because I kind of want to do them.

840
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like an obligation. Like when I take

841
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: my daughter to school, and if I'm tired. It's not

842
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: an obligation. It's just something like I do or want

843
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: to do. There's like a fine line. But I don't

844
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: like doing things that I don't want to do if

845
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: they're like, how do I explain it? Like I don't

846
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: give someone a gift unless I just want to give

847
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: them a gift, a gift for a goal. Because I'm

848
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: supposed to do the things. I'm just not very big

849
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: on that. I do things really because I want to

850
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: do them. But I think that's the most genuine way

851
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: to be.

852
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: You were talking about spirituality last night. It came up. Yes,

853
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: this is interesting. You were surprised when you said where

854
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: you with religion? Which is a hilarious By the way,

855
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: it's a hilarious thing to say to dinner. I love that, right, Well,

856
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: just no one says it, but it's so funny. No

857
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: one says it.

858
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: No one says where you with religion?

859
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: No one is ever sat in the middle of a

860
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: dinner with a bunch of people who've never met each other.

861
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: Where are you with religion? I thought it was funny.

862
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: I just told it. Nobody passes a bag clamic. And

863
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: by the way, what's the meaning of life, and I'm

864
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: like eating my currella stick. But I'm like, really, but

865
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: I said, I said, I was hardwired. You know, the

866
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: Catholic thing in me is hardwired. And it's like like

867
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: I could never be an a full honey. I have

868
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: friends that are full on eighth I believe in nothing

869
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: and that's our whole thing. And I go, I just

870
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: could never do it because but.

871
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: You're not mad at them.

872
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm mad at them, right, Okay, I'm mad at them

873
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: at all. I'm also proselytizing to them at all. I

874
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: just I think you're hardwired a certain way when you're young,

875
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: and I was hardwired the way that I'm hardwired, and

876
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: it was you know, with churches and you know, prayers and.

877
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: Culture though that's your culture. That's Jewish people, you know,

878
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: with with what they're eating and where they're going and

879
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: the guilt and and it's not necessarily about God or

880
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: religion per se. I mean, sure, culture to it.

881
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: But I think it's like right, But then there's some

882
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: people's culture where they're like they were hardwired to just

883
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: have a gift totally. Like there's friends I have that

884
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: cannot even go near the idea of the spiritual or

885
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: the religious. Okay, so I'm a mutt of it.

886
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: And here's why I My mother was born Catholic in

887
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: a very abusive household. Her brother had a shotgun I

888
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: think at nine or eleven to his father's head for

889
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: how he's beaten the shit of the out of their mother.

890
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: And so I broke the chain of like the crazy

891
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: abusive generational trauma. But they grew up in a fucked up,

892
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: crazy Catholic house. She marries my real father, who's Jewish,

893
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: and no one could have kids on that side, so

894
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: she goes through an Orthodox conversion so I could be

895
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: born Jewish. She then marries another horse trainer, John Paracella,

896
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: who's devout Catholic, who sends me to Saint Agnes School

897
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: and Old Westbury School. The child puts me through a communion,

898
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: a confirmation the wafer. I loved reading the Old Testament,

899
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: went to all these schools, learned all about it, and

900
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: came out like what, Okay, right I am? Ever, I

901
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: can be anything you want me to beg Yeah, you

902
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: want me to be? What do you want me to be?

903
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: You want to do? Rahmaed on down? Yeah you know

904
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I. And that's why when people

905
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: say questions to me, that's why I ask that question

906
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: because someone if someone says to me, how's your relationship

907
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: with your parents? Thank God they're both dead, because then

908
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: I get to say they're both dead. But before that,

909
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: it was like or like what religion are you? It's

910
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: like under the table, I can't answer basic where'd you

911
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: grow up? Thirteen schools? I can't answer basic questions. I

912
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: grew up at Hot Skates and Limbrook, right where I

913
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: grew up.

914
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: I know, I've driven by it many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

915
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: well it's interesting. I think that, Like, but that is

916
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: in and of itself, even though it's some you know,

917
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: the way you're calling it a munth, It's like, I

918
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: gotta be honest, it's kind of a deeply faithful way

919
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: to grow up really different faith traditions and being enmeshed

920
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: in them.

921
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've experienced both deeply. I've experienced.

922
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think that makes you more spiritual

923
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: and more aware of that stuff than anybody and.

924
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: Could be not spiritual, like just a cardboard cutout?

925
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: Who could?

926
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: But what do they think goes on? Like nothing goes on?

927
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: You're just like are you just a cardboard cut, it's

928
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: not made and you can speak.

929
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: Like I got things. There are people that for whatever

930
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: reason just don't have an interest in that dimension of life.

931
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: They don't think about how they treat people, or they

932
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: don't think about uh, you know, any type of nora.

933
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: Let's just say they don't think about the soul at all.

934
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: They think primarily only about the here and now, and

935
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: they don't think about any other stuff. Do you go

936
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: to confession? I just started going to church again, and

937
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: not super regularly, so I haven't been to confession, but

938
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: I used to when I was a Kids.

939
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Say, why do you have to go to confession when

940
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: going right? Is there a rule of going right? No?

941
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: No, well I mean church, isn't confession right? Confession thing

942
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: you have to go to do a thing? No? I

943
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: haven't yet.

944
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: Wait but no, But ken could have person just only

945
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: go to confession and never go to church.

946
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

947
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: Could I walk in and just go to confession?

948
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

949
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Someone's there right now, someone always there?

950
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 2: Hours?

951
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: Oh, there actually are hours.

952
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: There's hours. Interesting, But you can go and you could

953
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: say here's I you know, I've done X, Y and C.

954
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: I haven't been in years. But do they really do

955
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: like the three hail marriage or do they talk to

956
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: you it's a little bit of therapy? Is there a

957
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: little bit of therapy to it? I think there is, really,

958
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: Like I think there is a say I want to

959
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: sleep with my best friends partner?

960
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would the priests say? What do you think

961
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: film it? No? I don't know. I mean old priests

962
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: are not created equal clearly, Okay, priests are humans and

963
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: have lots of problems. Many documentaries, I couldn't predict that.

964
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: I would imagine coveting thy neighbor's wife, husband or whatever.

965
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: Is is no going, that's on the big ten. Okay,

966
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: that's the big ten, and.

967
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I would just say no go they would, right, you

968
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: mean because oh yeah commandment? Right?

969
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: Wait?

970
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: No? Is that the command and seven deadly sins?

971
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: So if you came in and said, I'm thinking of

972
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: killing I'm thinking of coveting the wife. I'm really jealous

973
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: my neighbor has so much money. And I don't you go.

974
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: That you and I should rank the commandments and the sins,

975
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: like in order of importance the sins, like, because I

976
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: feel like the sins are supposed to be equal. Like

977
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: I find it's funny because my mother, who was brilliant, beautiful,

978
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: like show stopping beautiful, but brilliant, smarter than I am, funny,

979
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: et cetera. The reason she went into and alcohol vanity

980
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: and it's not people talk about the time I'm vain,

981
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: I'm not va. I am not vain, And maybe that's

982
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: why I never thought about it, like Freud would have

983
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: a field day. But I am not a vain person

984
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: by and large. I mean, I don't want to go

985
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: out and look like a wreck, but overall, it wouldn't

986
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: be something that even defines me. I think that's a

987
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: really really debilitating bad one.

988
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: There are tons of There are tons of bad, negative

989
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: things that you can develop. I guess vanity obviously is

990
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: one of them. Vanity is a tough one because it's

991
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: rewarded in our society. That's why degree that I think

992
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: makes it very hard for people to recognize it right,

993
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: and it can lead them into a just like greed,

994
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: by the way, gluttony, all that stuff. Greed is rewarded.

995
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: Greed is good, you know, But then if greed leads

996
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: you down a road where let's say you are you know, dishonest,

997
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: and you are criminal in your behavior, or and you

998
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Bernie Madoff. Look at this craziness. Right,

999
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: son kills himself or die? Right, Bernie Madoff dies like

1000
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: the wife is whatever, cast aside, whatever hurts all of

1001
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: these people, does all these terrible things, and could have

1002
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: been just a really rich guy, like but it wasn't

1003
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: enough an R a normal rich person. I call NRP. Yes.

1004
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing that nobody really wants to hear.

1005
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: It's not that different. Like what he was driven to

1006
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: do was an innate It's not like he wanted the boat.

1007
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 2: It's coming from somewhere else that.

1008
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: Is seated insecurity, need for approval, need to do all

1009
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: of that. You're obsessed with everything. I live for you

1010
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: for that, Like do you read everything?

1011
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: I don't read everything. No one can read.

1012
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: You read a lot, though, Don't you read stuff? You

1013
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: have to be reading.

1014
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: Somebody that reads more.

1015
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: Read significantly less than you. But you just know a lot.

1016
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: Because it's interesting. It's interesting because you love.

1017
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: The human condition.

1018
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: You like, like, I'm curious about people. I'm curious, right,

1019
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: that's not young, you know.

1020
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: I think it's young to be I think it's do

1021
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: you have kids who know? I don't think you don't

1022
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: think so Okay, I don't think the forty year old parent,

1023
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: new parent, this is your move.

1024
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: No, A lot of people I think it's you know,

1025
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: I think certain people are really great at it, but

1026
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: I think they know it like you know, you're really

1027
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: good mom. I think that. For me, it's like I

1028
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: think it would be such a shift in lifestyle. Maybe

1029
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: it would be good, but I don't know.

1030
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: I think you'd be good at it. I think, and

1031
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: it happened to you, you would rise.

1032
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be love it.

1033
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't be terrible. You'd be like me at

1034
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: your comedy club getting an eighty and maybe a five extra.

1035
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: Eighties good the way I grew up.

1036
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: Eighties get a five extra credit. Okay, So let's talk

1037
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: about two more things. One is you and I our relationships.

1038
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: So we met through in Whitney. For those of you

1039
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: who don't know, Tim's amazing, and you guys already know

1040
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: that after this conversation, we met through Whitney Cummings via text,

1041
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: and then we taxt about lime disease, and then we

1042
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: were in the Ham and then we went on our

1043
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: first date on a boat and we had which is

1044
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: by the way, that's a that's a trapping.

1045
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1046
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: We had a great time, beautiful and then we just

1047
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: became with like an instant, like well, I.

1048
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: Think we had a similar upbringing and you know, I

1049
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: think also from Long Island, like even the things you

1050
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: mentioned when you talk about hot like, I know I

1051
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: went to birthday you know what I'm talking a birthday party.

1052
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: There was tan and like fell down I was I.

1053
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Was the Queen of hot skating. You also, we're both

1054
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: good dates to things. We've found out you need to

1055
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: sometimes bring someone to something.

1056
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: That's not to bring somebody who can hang in his

1057
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: fun and gets it and appreciates it.

1058
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: And elevates the game and can be by themselves off

1059
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: the side and bring an ad. So we've been to

1060
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: like we went to crazy ship like the US Open

1061
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: and the Mets and and Raos and whatever. Right, so

1062
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: finally the.

1063
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: Next day we keep one upping each other. The next day,

1064
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: I bring you to the Middle East when they make peace.

1065
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Mets party.

1066
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me, it will be flying into the

1067
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: Middle East when there was a piece in the Middle East.

1068
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: We're going to Dubai, Yeah, I mean yeah, to be big,

1069
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: I'll have to be big.

1070
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't. I actually enjoyed have.

1071
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: US Open my party that had a carvel trock. Yeah,

1072
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 2: cheeseburger delivered by a chef. No, that was.

1073
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: Epic, So that I'm gonna say I did. I did

1074
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: a video that went viral where this is. That's bigger

1075
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: than going That's bigger than going to the Mets. That's

1076
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: big in the US Open. That's a lot of fun

1077
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: for me. We're in the Hampton's and I was out

1078
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: with this guy and Tim and I were coming from

1079
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: the fifty fifty cent and it was great. And then

1080
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: he was like, let's go to my friend's place. And

1081
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: it's the sag Harbor Tavern. It's part of the Red

1082
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: Hook Tavern. But I was a little buzz so I

1083
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: wasn't connecting the dots to the fact that they have

1084
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: the best cheeseburger. Also, I thought we're just going to

1085
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: the restaurant. I didn't think, let's go into the restaurant. Okay,

1086
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: we're going to a restaurant. So I show up and

1087
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: he's with all these comedians like Andrew Schultz and the

1088
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: other guy at the Ponytail. I forgot a bunch of

1089
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Markety people there, like like like like I'm already ready.

1090
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: You had me at Hello, you have Andrew a comedian there,

1091
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: and you're there and then this like amazing chef comes

1092
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: and he presents as if I'm Queen Elizabeth the Sag

1093
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: Harbor tavern favorite cheeseburger. He wouldn't let me take a

1094
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: bite of Tim's cheeseburger because I just like give me

1095
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: a bite and he was like no, like heaven forbid,

1096
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: and then like he brought it out and I tasted it,

1097
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: and I it was like, that was an incredible night.

1098
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: We closed the summer. That was like a chef's kiss literal.

1099
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: It is always the best week of the summer's the

1100
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: final week it was. I don't know why, and that

1101
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: was the final night, the final night. It's always the

1102
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: best week that week.

1103
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like because it's urgency, famous comedians, a

1104
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: chef who's going to bring me the best burger?

1105
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: Like so much fun.

1106
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my wheelhouse, That's that's my Matt Gallan.

1107
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: So that was sick.

1108
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: So anyway, we go to REO's and you've seen me

1109
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: out on let's just say dates. So the guy that

1110
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: we were out with last night or that night, what

1111
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: do you I want to hear what you think of

1112
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: me and dating, the habitat, the whole thing, honestly.

1113
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: And a date or you in your date? Oh, you

1114
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: and the data grade, I mean you and the data grade.

1115
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: You think it's a good match. What what would be

1116
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: a good match for me?

1117
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's very centered and calm and knows who he

1118
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: is and is successful and fun and funny. And you know,

1119
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: you think it's good. I think it's very good. Okay,

1120
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: thumbs up, thumbs up.

1121
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: Give me a grade out of one hundred for him

1122
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: for me in the nies nineties? Yeah, wow, okay, And

1123
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a tough critic somewhat.

1124
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: No, he's good. I think he's solid. I also like

1125
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: that he's from a different part of the country. You do,

1126
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: I do? Okay? Why? I think journeys are important and

1127
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: I think you.

1128
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Mean like having your own space and.

1129
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: Going going not only that, but is it if it's

1130
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: too easy? I think it rots you need a little

1131
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: rub you rob.

1132
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. You need a little not not

1133
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: like conflict, but a little texture otherwise.

1134
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: Like what do we do with dinnernet in? Like No, Yeah,

1135
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 2: it's like you need a little bit of like let's

1136
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: make this time.

1137
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think, Tim, I think of the fucking

1138
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: best I live for you. I really do like deeper

1139
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: and deeper this is.

1140
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: I think we did a great job and I've done

1141
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: the biggest podcast in the world, and I think this

1142
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: was a great episode. I grade this very highly. Tell

1143
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: me what you greeted on in the nineties, same.

1144
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: As your guy, and you didn't carry the way, but

1145
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: you didn't definitely some of the you wouldn't have thought

1146
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: it was going to be like you would have thought.

1147
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: I know, I knew it was going to be good,

1148
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: but it was actually surprising how good it was. Wow. Yeah,

1149
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: oh my god.

1150
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1151
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: Okay, because it's different things. I don't talk about parenting ever,

1152
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: and no one does. Oh that's what's.

1153
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Interesting, really, Yeah, okay.

1154
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: Because it's different things interesting a lot of dudes talking

1155
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: to dudes.

1156
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: Also, we're very similar creatures in the sense that look,

1157
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, for you, you have a big, major fucking

1158
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: I don't feel like there are any steaks. I feel

1159
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: like I'm in a garage band, Like doing a lemonade

1160
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: stand doesn't well, thank you, but you know what I mean,

1161
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: I just like, I just have a natch curiosity about you,

1162
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: and so I was just like, let's you're gonna be

1163
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: my house you wanted to see.

1164
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna equal out this game. Wait until

1165
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: I launch my Barbecue Sauce and then we'll see what's what?

1166
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: All right?

1167
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: Definitely awes and thanks