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Speaker 2: to be discussing all of this, checking the Clips, Lakers

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Speaker 2: more with NBA analysts and Sports Better Jamison Welsh on

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Speaker 2: the day's episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is Miles and Jack

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Speaker 3: Boost Rocks.

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Speaker 2: Let me take you be driving Spinny Better number eighteen.

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Speaker 2: That's been secure the Celtics or NBA Champions.

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Speaker 3: Team n be honest, look show time what you got?

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Speaker 2: Yes, James a Welsh Sports Better analyst co host of

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Speaker 2: the Mixed Company podcast. Welcome back to Miles and Jack

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Speaker 2: got mad Boost. He's bringing your knowledge of the game

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Speaker 3: By the way, Roth is how you pronounced Ray Fines

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Speaker 3: his first name. A lot of people don't know that,

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Speaker 3: all right, Sorry, proceed. James, thank you. I just had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, I think so. I think so, James.

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Speaker 2: How you been man, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 4: Fellows. Thanks for having me as always, definitely appreciated of course, of.

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Speaker 3: Course, great to have you. Is this also the most

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Speaker 3: wonderful time of the year for the sports, the gaming contingent,

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Speaker 5: It actually is because you can bet on playoff games

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Speaker 5: The fact that someone made a poster or comment after

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, those aren't good things.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, as your starter, this is your guy, you

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Speaker 1: It could be a banana peel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's one stat I was just reading about again,

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Speaker 2: Just that, yeah, not having much of an impact. You

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Speaker 1: Part of the game, of his game that I'm used

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Speaker 2: Is it just like that it's taking a toll of

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Speaker 2: you know, how is am I reading into this too much?

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Speaker 4: No, he's always This has always been the case. He's

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Speaker 5: It just doesn't get mentioned because, you know, we kind

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Speaker 4: But that's always been the case. I think the difference

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the foul hunting has been getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, uh, oh you floppy.

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Speaker 1: The fourth quarter that just sealed the game.

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Speaker 2: This time I'm kind of feeling the Pistons. I think

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Speaker 1: That I'm like, yeah, go go on, now, go on now. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Pistons have thoroughly outplayed the Knicks in the

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Speaker 5: They've made a couple of matchup with you know, matchup

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Speaker 4: So that made a lot of sense.

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Speaker 5: like I kind of like the Pistons here if Timms

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Speaker 3: Pretty heavy.

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Speaker 4: Yea even went out home court. That's really heavy.

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Speaker 5: For instance, the Lakers series opened up at Lakers minus

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Speaker 3: So that series is basically a toss up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that series flipped quite a bit after game one.

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Speaker 4: So just depending on how it.

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Speaker 5: Goes, each game goes, you know, there's always adjustments, but yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: So that went from like Lakers having say a seventy

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Speaker 4: And we're back.

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Speaker 1: We're back.

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Speaker 3: We're back, baby.

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Speaker 1: Who So are the Wolves with an axta grind? What's

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Wolves just absolutely folded us up, just did whatever they want.

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Speaker 2: We let them shoot. We just were like, yet to

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Speaker 2: shoot whatever, three, Just go ahead, take an open three.

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Speaker 1: Every time.

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Speaker 2: They were twenty one of forty two from deep and

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Speaker 2: To me, it just felt like we showed up and

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Speaker 1: We just looked so not prepared. It was not It

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Speaker 2: For Luca being, you know, scoring like he was just

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Speaker 1: Hurt a lot.

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Speaker 2: But you know, JJ Reddick said before this game too,

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Speaker 3: Wait for real, he said that maybe we should have practiced.

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Speaker 2: Turns out maybe that would have been said. And this

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Speaker 3: We should have I don't know, played some more basketball.

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Speaker 3: But all right, So here's what I So. Both Lebron

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Speaker 3: can't figure this out, and you know, Lebron figures things

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's just you know, he's got it.

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Speaker 3: and there did seem to like they looked real bad

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Speaker 3: they're not getting crushed like that. And physically they looked

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Speaker 5: It felt like a team that got comfortable after they

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Speaker 3: They have beat the breaks off of an old team that,

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Speaker 3: you should just be happy to be there and then

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Speaker 3: they just beat them. You know, did they sweep.

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Speaker 5: Them last year?

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Speaker 3: They sure did, They sure did, so, I mean they

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Speaker 5: As we get swept. I think there's so much pride

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Speaker 5: That Lebron and Luca have had bad games the ones

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00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 5: before and they usually regroup, so they should be okay tonight.

442
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 4: But man, you can't allow twenty one threes. That that

443
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 4: won't work.

444
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean that's that's the other part,

445
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: just especially with so little of them being contested and

446
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: just letting Naz read just also come on, well, he

447
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: is going to punish.

448
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: Us if we just get them. Let them just have

449
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: these open looks.

450
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Speaker 3: So, did you guys know who made the most threes

451
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 3: in the NBA this year? It's been it's been staffed

452
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: by a lot for I think, like the past, I

453
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: don't know ten seasons, but this year wasn't Steph. It

454
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: was Edward and yeah, like that's unbelievable, Like he just yeah,

455
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: he took the most made threes crown for Like, no,

456
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 3: I don't think Peter like he was shooting well last year.

457
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: I still wouldn't have like thought that was possible. So

458
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: he's he's a great shooter. They shoot a ton of

459
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Speaker 3: threes and they're they're really good at it.

460
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Speaker 2: I was maybe the fourth quarter when he just threw

461
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: one up in Luca's face and afterwards just gave.

462
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: Him give him the spider mank.

463
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, oh, please come on, Like it

464
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: was so hard. I'm like, and Luca even like you

465
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: can see Lucas face, he was like come on.

466
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 3: Man like taking man like that said, I do like

467
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 3: Luca likes to get that motivation going, and I like

468
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: when he's being motivated by disrespect from another player on

469
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: the opposing team as opposed to the refs or you know, fans.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

471
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are saying like they're he has like ongoing

472
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: beef with like fans in different arenas around the lead,

473
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 3: like just they're like, oh, yeah, that guy Luke always

474
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: get into it and it's like a fan in the

475
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: fifth row. So yeah, he's he's got that right kind

476
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: of mental illness.

477
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Speaker 2: Sources happened to it, Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly. And I

478
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: think also too for the Wolves, I'm sure that they

479
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: also look at this too and being like, oh, we're

480
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: playing a Luka Doncics team again in the playoffs and

481
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: rather like and there's a lot of you know, that's

482
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Speaker 2: where the real I think motivation is also coming to that.

483
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 2: I think the lakersers are not prepared for and need

484
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Speaker 2: to sort that out quick.

485
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: Super producer Jabari pointed out the ant went from taking

486
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Speaker 3: six point seven threes per night to ten point three

487
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: threes per night this year and went from shooting thirty

488
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Speaker 3: five point seven percent last year to thirty nine point

489
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Speaker 3: five percent this year. Like that's the wild thing about

490
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Speaker 3: him is like he is one of those guys who

491
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 3: seems to be improving exponentially, just like adding things to

492
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: his game because he's just such an incredible athlete and

493
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: just works so hard at it.

494
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Speaker 1: Then goes up.

495
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Speaker 3: Who knows. Yeah, line does seem to be go up

496
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: to any other big moves. I'm assuming the Pacers Bucks series,

497
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: like the Pacers' odds went way up after game one, right.

498
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that Yeah, the Pacers line definitely went up. The

499
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 5: thing with them, that's interesting and it may be off

500
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Speaker 5: the board now since I think the game just start

501
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 5: or is about the start. But the thing with him is,

502
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 5: I always thought they would they wouldn't have any problems

503
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Speaker 5: in this series, just based off of they're better like

504
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: than the Bucks at this time, Like.

505
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Speaker 3: You think that's an advantage then being.

506
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Speaker 4: Better you usually win in the bus. You know, they're

507
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Speaker 4: without one of their star players and the rest of

508
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: the roster ain't great, and it feels like Giannis has

509
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: a step out of Milwaukee just gives that kind of

510
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: you already starting to see articles about other cities and

511
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: other places and whatnot.

512
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, it gives you a you know, hey, man,

513
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 5: I wouldn't wish this.

514
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't wish this job on my worst enemy. I'll

515
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 3: tell you what Doc Rivers is doing. The Lord's work

516
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: out there just happened to gut it out with one

517
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: of the best players in the league on his rosters. Yeah,

518
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: he's a hero. He's a hero that we can all,

519
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: you know, stand back and it's like Rocky one. You know,

520
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: we're watching somebody take a lot of punches and uh,

521
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: you know, we're just admiring him for being able to

522
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: stick with it without retiring to a golf course somewhere.

523
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Speaker 2: Dame is returning though, tonight, so we'll see how that goes.

524
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: Are up ten to five. But yeah, I don't think

525
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: Dame is enough. Like I mean, I could see Dame

526
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: having a game where he's just you know, pulling up

527
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: from the logo multiple times and plays really well, but

528
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's enough for the them to

529
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 3: beat the Pacers more than twice.

530
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Speaker 2: What about what it's Celtic's magic here that feels.

531
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Speaker 3: Quarter there where I was, I was getting excited, But yeah,

532
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 3: it's not gonna happen. But the magic still fun to

533
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: watch play defense, But I don't enjoy watching anybody play

534
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: defense as much as I like watching that team play.

535
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Speaker 2: Du Calves heat also did. Yeah, I'm just like, well,

536
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Speaker 2: good luck, good luck.

537
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Speaker 3: We're good. Yeah. And really, honestly, as somebody who's you know, uh,

538
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: Celtics versus the field, and I'm rooting for the field.

539
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: All I care about is it's not the Celtics, Like

540
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: I want everybody, I want the best team to win

541
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Speaker 3: in every series, you know, and I think the Calves

542
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: are that team. I think the Pacers are that team.

543
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Speaker 3: And I think, uh, the Nicks are probably that team personally.

544
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Speaker 3: But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's the Pistons, I got,

545
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Speaker 3: I got to I'm kind of on the fence on

546
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: that one.

547
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Speaker 5: Well, so they are the better team because they have

548
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: better players. However, if you don't play correctly and your

549
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 5: team has flaws, I don't know. That's the thing. Like

550
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 5: the Knicks talent wise, of course, and they're gonna the

551
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 5: Knicks are gonna win a game in Detroit. Like the

552
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: Pistons aren't winning two games in Detroit. They're just too young.

553
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 5: I don't see that happening. I think the Knicks wake

554
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 5: up in one of those games. But from top to bottom,

555
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 5: like the Knicks roster, as highly priced as it is,

556
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: they are a better overall team but man, they just

557
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 5: forever reason I don't think they play the best brand

558
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 5: of basketball they can every given night. It feels like

559
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 5: they can never have a great bruns In and Cat game.

560
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 5: It feels like one of those two guys goes off,

561
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Speaker 5: but not both at the same time.

562
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Speaker 3: Right, And is that do you think that's a rule

563
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: that they've said internally? Like that, guys, it just wouldn't

564
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Speaker 3: be fair.

565
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Speaker 1: Come on, brou only one of you a knight, that's it.

566
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Speaker 5: You know what though, Like when they put this roster together,

567
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 5: you thought like, okay, they got the guard and the

568
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 5: big guy, so it should counter you know, it should

569
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 5: be able to company each other. It just doesn't because

570
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 5: in the way Brunson plays, Kat doesn't necessarily fit out

571
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: brunts and plays like Bronson's ISO guy, and Kat is

572
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 5: a pick and pop guy with a little bit ISO

573
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 5: as well, So they really don't company each other that

574
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: well what they both do. So it's very interesting to

575
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 5: see how this is going to go. But also Cat

576
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 5: has to play better. Kat cannot let Tobias hairs check him.

577
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 5: That's just unacceptable. And I expect to have a better

578
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 5: game in game three.

579
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Speaker 3: He was good in game one, so that's what. That's

580
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: his promise to you. He's gonna be good every other game.

581
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Speaker 4: All right, that works, that's face.

582
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, producers J Barry pointing out Brunson is one of

583
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Speaker 3: the leaders in unassisted two's the nick a big iso

584
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Speaker 3: ball team.

585
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, got good?

586
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Speaker 1: All right?

587
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: Rockets Warriors. Who's so, I'm assuming the Warriors were favored

588
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Speaker 3: and remain favored in that series? Is that? Is that accurate?

589
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 5: So? Yes, the Warriors were favored going into it, and

590
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 5: they still are favored.

591
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: The veteranness of the Warriors showed someday.

592
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 5: It really stuck out because the Ws aren't that great

593
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 5: of a team this year, Like this is not one

594
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Speaker 5: of the better Warrior teams. This might be the worst

595
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 5: playoff team that they've had since the run started. I

596
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 5: just don't think they're that good. However, Houston's so young

597
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 5: that they made a lot of mistakes early in the

598
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 5: first half that they really couldn't overcome. Even though they

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Speaker 5: got back in the game and they were within the

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Speaker 5: possession in the fourth quarter, they just there's so much,

601
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Speaker 5: so many mistakes, so many empty possessions in the second

602
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Speaker 5: quarter and then some of the first quarter that it

603
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: really set them back and eventually Steph is going to

604
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 5: make you pay, and that's what happened time and time

605
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: again later in that game. But that being said, I

606
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: think a lot of it was first game jitters. I

607
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: don't think Jalen Green plays that bad again. I don't

608
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: think Van Vliet shoots that poorly again. So I think

609
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: the Rockets will win Game two. But overall in that

610
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 5: series of I'm Golden State, I'm pretty confident.

611
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Speaker 3: I Yeah, there's something like heading into the series, I

612
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: like really wanted to take the Rockets and then it's

613
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Speaker 3: just like yeah, but you still have to make like this,

614
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: the the sport is still you still have to like

615
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Speaker 3: make more points. I think in this one too.

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Speaker 2: You're well, I think it's that your number of points

617
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Speaker 2: has to be a big higher.

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Speaker 3: Than the other teams run after.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the Rockets don't have that many people

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Speaker 3: who can do that, and that is my main Like

622
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: when I was going back, I was like talking in

623
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Speaker 3: previous episode about how like that there are always these

624
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Speaker 3: young teams who are like good all year and people

625
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: are like yeah, and that's about to end in round one,

626
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: like Minnesota last year, where people were like yeah, but

627
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: they've had a nice run, but they don't have enough

628
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: experience and then they surprise people. But all those teams had,

629
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: like Memphis a couple like a few years back, all

630
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: those teams had people who could score, who could just

631
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: like create their own shots and get buckets when needed.

632
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 3: And that just feels like the missing ingredient for for

633
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: the Rockets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just.

635
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: Steph just he should have just brought for everyone. Yeah,

636
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: because it was just there was a few moments where

637
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: I think it was late later in the game, he

638
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: was just hitting these threes where even Jimmy Butler was

639
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: just slightly disturbed at how good he was at basketball.

640
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he like shot one falling out of bounds, kind

641
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: of didn't didn't even like seem to be a basketball

642
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: shot so much. She was like kind of just.

643
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Licking it up, got it?

644
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: He a Butler.

645
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: As I said at tune the piece still dance.

646
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: We'll throw up a shot.

647
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Metrically that should not have happened.

648
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: Wow, what a shot.

649
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: This is crazy.

650
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

651
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: Anyways, foregune conclusions when he shoots the ball.

652
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Other foregun conclusions. Okay, Grizzlies, that was U g l y.

653
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well is there in terms of matchups, is there

654
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 2: any difficulty you foresee Jamison for okay, see or you

655
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: think I think.

656
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 5: Okay, he's gonna run through the West, and it feels

657
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 5: like Denver the championship year, where they're just far and

658
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: ahead better than everyone else's going to show.

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Speaker 3: It's going to show rather including the East, including the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: That's a little different. I think that match will be good.

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Speaker 4: I think out West they're better than everyone by far.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't see a close I don't see who's

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Speaker 5: the second best team in the West, Like you can

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Speaker 5: but I don't see a close competitor to them out West.

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Speaker 5: I think they have least amount of flaws. I think

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Speaker 5: they have the best defense in the league. I think

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Speaker 5: that's how good their defense is. I do think they

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Speaker 5: shoot the ball from the outside well, they play make well,

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Speaker 5: and I think losing the way they did last year,

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Speaker 5: multiplied by the lack of respect they've gotten this year,

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Speaker 5: is gonna loom. You know, it's going to be a

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Speaker 5: key factor for them going forward. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: they're the best out West. In the East, I think

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Speaker 5: it's still Boston everybody else. However, Tatum being hurt Jalen

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Speaker 5: Brown with the NAT with the knee issue leave some

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Speaker 5: concerns because those are their two best players and if

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Speaker 5: they're not one hundred percent, they could end up getting

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Speaker 5: a situations where the series go a little longer than

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Speaker 5: they should and that only catches up to teams like that.

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Speaker 5: But they're still the best team in the East and

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Speaker 5: until someone gets them, I still have that come out

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Speaker 5: to come out the East.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, should we take another break and we're

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Speaker 3: going to do a very special rapid fire round of

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Speaker 3: questioning where we're going to look at some answers to

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Speaker 3: a pull that just went up today that we want

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Speaker 3: to see if you're in line with the players in

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Speaker 3: the NBA with you did all right, So we're going

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Speaker 3: to ask you the questions and you're going to pretend

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Speaker 3: like you didn't see it, and uh.

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Speaker 4: I saw a most overrated part. That's the only one

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Speaker 4: I saw it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Oh good, because there's a way more questions

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Speaker 2: than that perfect perfect.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be right back,

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Speaker 3: and we're back. We're James and Welsh. You are rapid

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Speaker 3: fire round of questioning? Oh man, I feel I feel

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Speaker 3: sometimes I feel sorry for people to get.

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Speaker 2: That feel really bad for our guests because you're about

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Speaker 2: to answer the rap fire a round of questioning. This

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Speaker 2: question for a question to answer secment in all podcasting podcasting.

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Speaker 2: We're asking you a question a little bit different now

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Speaker 2: because we're basing it around this anonymous poll of NBA

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Speaker 2: players that just came out on the athletic but nonetheless

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Speaker 2: answer quick answer faithfully?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Answer faithfully?

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Speaker 1: Jameson Welsh is ready? That means Brian start the clock?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, way, I'm gonna give you some names.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me if they are on the best

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Speaker 3: franchise or worst franchise in the league. All right, you ready? Yep, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you already said you're right. Okay, all right, Dallas Mavericks worse,

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Speaker 3: they're in the best. They're like twelfth on the on

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Speaker 3: the best list. I know, yeah, it might have it

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Speaker 3: might have happened a little earlier. Philadelphia seventy six ers.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you knew that.

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Speaker 4: I mean the medical staff got some issues, so I mean, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, in a weird case, why are they around? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're the fifth worst. Okay, see Thunder the best I

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Speaker 3: guess number two, yeah best. Yeah, Memphis Grizzlies.

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Speaker 4: Say the worst.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in the they're on the worst list. New

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Speaker 3: York Knicks best worst, there's like seventh worst. Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 4: Wow? I always hear nothing but good things from the players.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I wonder. Yeah, it's I guess it's a lot about perception, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, whenever they're trying to get a player, I

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Speaker 3: feel like it never goes that well for them, unless

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Speaker 3: it's Jalen Brunson. Uh, Cleveland Cavaliers best best, number seven.

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Speaker 3: I think winning helps a lot. I would say, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, Uh, we're gonna do the overrated underrated list,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you're gonna tell me which of these players

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Speaker 3: are overrated list? Which players are underrated list. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: start with Franz Wagner.

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Speaker 4: He should be underrated, he is, he's.

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Speaker 3: On the underrated list. Uh.

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Speaker 5: Jason Tatum, Uh, you should be underrated.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think he should be overrated.

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Speaker 3: I wish he was overrated, but he's underrated. He's on

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Speaker 3: underrated list.

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Speaker 5: Lebron James Man, I mean it's I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 5: he shouldn't be on a list of over underrated.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I probably guess that he's probably on an

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Speaker 4: overrated list.

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Speaker 3: He's on the overrated list. Yeah, and I'm hoping that

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Speaker 3: he saw that is carrying that energy into the into

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Speaker 3: the rest of the postseason. Jared Jackson Junior, Jared jack

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Speaker 3: over that is correct, they have him overrated. Yeah, Giannis Antetakupo,

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Speaker 3: he can't be overrated, and yet and yet they do

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Speaker 3: have him as overrated in between Joel Embiid and Dylan Brooks.

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Speaker 4: We can't.

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Speaker 5: We can't call him overrated when his when his front

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Speaker 5: office has failed him.

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Speaker 3: I know that would be my my thought as well.

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Speaker 3: But I should mention what the number one is in

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Speaker 3: each of these category worries. The number one so the

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Speaker 3: number one best organization. So, just going back a second,

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Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors are the number one best organization,

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Speaker 3: followed by the OKC thunder and then the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 1: Damn is it about them?

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Speaker 3: I thought you guys were cool the NBA, and then

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Speaker 3: the league's worst organization number one is the Hornets and

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Speaker 3: number two the Washington Wizards. So ouch. And then on

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Speaker 3: the overrated underrated list, the league's most overrated player according

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Speaker 3: to fellow players. Number two is who I expected, Rudy Gobert,

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Speaker 3: because you know, he is not popular among his fellow players.

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Speaker 3: Number one Halliburton.

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Speaker 4: Which that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: That is interesting because I mean he is inconsistent, like

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Speaker 3: he I'm like, I wonder if this is just people

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Speaker 3: who went against him when he was having like going

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Speaker 3: through a slump and they were just like, man, this guy's.

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Speaker 5: Cook based off of salary versus got it.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what it is, because the player he

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Speaker 4: is who he is.

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Speaker 5: But when you're making that kind of max, you have

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Speaker 5: certain expectations. So I can understand why he would wind

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Speaker 5: up at that at that part of the list. But

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's the most overrated guy. I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, like for Jared Jackson Jr. Was eligible for

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Speaker 5: if you won Deep Boy, he would have been the

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Speaker 5: number one most overrated guy for a long time just

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Speaker 5: based off of the kind of money he was eligible

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Speaker 5: for for what he produces.

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Speaker 4: It's not about he's actually a really good player.

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Speaker 5: It's just that the way these salaries are and the

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Speaker 5: way these things end up being.

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Speaker 4: Guys get drastic over drastically overpaid.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, league's most underrated players. We'll just go

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Speaker 3: down the list here because this is kind of fun

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Speaker 3: to here what fellow NBA players think. Number one most

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Speaker 3: underrated player, Kate Cunningham underrated.

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Speaker 4: So who would be the like, the most underrated player.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the number one of the number one most

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Speaker 3: underrated player according to other players in the NBA. Number

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Speaker 3: two Derek White, which that is painfully true as somebody

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Speaker 3: who does not like the Celtics and roots against them

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Speaker 3: on every possession that I've ever seen. He is the

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Speaker 3: most frustrating person to root against because because he.

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Speaker 1: Went, he went, he want Walter White on him, Derek

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Speaker 1: White on him.

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Speaker 3: When he shaved his head, shaved his head, it was

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Speaker 3: it's all been over for all of us since then.

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Speaker 3: Number three Norman Pale, And this is maybe the most

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Speaker 3: surprising appearance on any list for me. Number four most

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Speaker 3: underrated player from the Los Angeles Lakers, Austin Reeves. I

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Speaker 3: would not have expected other NBA players to pick him

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Speaker 3: as underrated, but.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they're like also just thinking in terms

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Speaker 2: of like the money he's paid, rather the money Austin

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Speaker 2: Reeves took.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's true, he took a bad contract.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with this many millions of dollars to be honest,

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Speaker 2: to stay here, that's fine. I mean this calculus is

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Speaker 2: way different. I think it's probably to do with that,

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Speaker 2: because my god, I mean, we got such a steal

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Speaker 2: with that contract.

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Speaker 3: All right. The coaching list is kind of interesting. So

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Speaker 3: best coaches in the league Dagnaut from OKC number one, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Kenny Atkinson two, Spo three, Mozilla four and then tylu five.

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Speaker 3: Those are all good. Uh. Number one worst coach in

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Speaker 3: the league Brian Keith.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's not fair.

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Speaker 3: Is the Wizard's coach.

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Speaker 4: That's not fair. He didn't do nothing for that to

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Speaker 4: get that right, right.

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Speaker 3: Number two Budenholzer, Bud's.

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Speaker 4: Coach, no more so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is obviously taken before he got.

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Speaker 4: Fired, fired on his day off.

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Speaker 3: So and number three and this one passed this thing

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Speaker 3: a little bit because like it's not like there's a

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Speaker 3: small like I feel like most of the players in

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Speaker 3: the NBA have played for him or have friends who

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Speaker 3: have played for him. Doc Rivers Number three, worst coach

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Speaker 3: in the league according to the players in the league.

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Speaker 3: Number five Nick Nurse Ouch.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, I can't for that roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, number six is TIBs, which I do wonder if

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Speaker 3: that's ever going to be coming to an end.

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Speaker 5: If they lose in this first round, it will Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's good. Yeah, and six or less he's out of there.

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Speaker 3: You can't have losing seven. He's gone to like there.

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Speaker 4: This would be.

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Speaker 3: On both the best and Worst coaches list. Michael Malone,

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Speaker 3: Oh so interesting. He's the only person I saw who

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Speaker 3: made both best and worse lists.

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Speaker 4: Actually a good coach. I didn't think he was a

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Speaker 4: bad coach.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, just I mean, if anything, it feels

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Speaker 2: like maybe he just lost that locker room.

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Speaker 1: But hey, facts, it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jameson Welsh, thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 2: on Miles with Jack got Mad Boosties. Where can the

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Speaker 1: We will have to find out fingernail.

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Speaker 2: Bro sellers got them along, y'all like a blameful falk guitar.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, we'll see you later. Bye bye