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Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas is a golf legend and the winner of

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Speaker 1: a record six Masters tournaments among his eighteen career major championships.

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Speaker 1: He sat down with Carlisle Group co founder David Rubinstein

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Speaker 1: for his Bloomberg television show Peer to Peer Conversations. In

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Speaker 1: the conversation, Nicholas reminiscence about his favorite golfers, explains why

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Speaker 1: he and President Trump have a similar playing style, and

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Speaker 1: analyzes Tiger Woods chances of breaking his major's tally. So

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Speaker 1: let me go back to the beginning of golf and

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Speaker 1: so forth. I am not a golfer. I have to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. I took it up when I

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Speaker 1: was nine. I quit when I was ten. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one anymore either. Okay, but now, well you're

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Speaker 1: pretty famous in golf. But um, it was too frustrating.

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Speaker 1: And here's what I couldn't understand. Why is it that

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Speaker 1: so many people are addicted to something that is so

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Speaker 1: If wald ever goes where it's supposed to go, why

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Speaker 1: why are people so addicted to it? Well, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good question. I kept trying to think about that

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Speaker 1: that's it's a it's a It's a never ending pursuit

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Speaker 1: You could try all you want, and nobody has ever

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Speaker 1: mastered the game. Well, most all athletes and all other

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Speaker 1: sports love to play golf because it's difficult. It's it's

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Speaker 1: challenging for him, and it challenges them at whatever level

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Speaker 1: That's why I enjoyed it. I enjoyed playing it because

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Speaker 1: no matter how good I got, I could always be better.

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Speaker 1: So when you were growing up, you played many different sports,

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Speaker 1: is that right? And actually you were recruited to play

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Speaker 1: was not your most important sport, or was it one

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Speaker 1: of the three most important? Golf was another sport at

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Speaker 1: the time. But once I, once I started into college,

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Speaker 1: a sudden, I was now one of the twelve best

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Speaker 1: and I said, hmm, maybe I'm better at this than

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Speaker 1: it was, you know, a process. But your father was

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Speaker 1: And then he quit for fifteen years and was a

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Speaker 1: particular year that fellow name Jack Grout came to Siota

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Speaker 1: So I got all that in my first year of

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Speaker 1: up to learn a sport. Now, Jack Grout became your

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Speaker 1: I started college. I mean, most kids want to be

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Speaker 1: So I went through pre pharmacy. I hated afternoon labs

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Speaker 1: And how did you actually come to meet him? Well,

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