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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Junior with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this week's Ozone podcast presented by by Star and

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Speaker 1: this week's guest is a guy that I've known a

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Speaker 1: long time Jaguars fans and known a long time. It

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Speaker 1: seems strange to me to say that I'm knowing him

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Speaker 1: a long time because it feels like he just got drafted.

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Speaker 1: But that's how quickly time goes in the NFL. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming he can feel it because during our break before

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Speaker 1: we get started, you can telling me about his family,

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Speaker 1: how life has changed. I look forward to talking to

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Speaker 1: him about that a little bit. And I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: this week's guest, Jaguars guard a J can a J.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us. How are you? First of all,

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Speaker 1: behold down man. You know this O has again started,

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Speaker 1: still a weird time in the world. We've been able

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Speaker 1: to work around and get some work done. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for the future to change the culture and I'm just

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Other than that, man, I've been

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Speaker 1: I've been doing good, family's been doing great. I can't

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Speaker 1: complain it all. I'm blessed. Now. We talked a little

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Speaker 1: bit and I didn't realize. He said, basically, as far

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Speaker 1: as family, you might be done. Yeah, but I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you about your family. How is that going? And give

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Speaker 1: me the details. Uh, everything is going good. You know.

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Speaker 1: My wife is feeling good at at the two babies.

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Speaker 1: She's she's got a job, stuff downpack now, she's she's

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Speaker 1: grinding working hard. My daughters too, going on twenty And Uh,

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Speaker 1: I had my son right at the end of the

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Speaker 1: season last year, so he's about to be he's eight

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Speaker 1: months this week, and he's growing fast. And and I man,

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Speaker 1: I've I've been been enjoying it. Daddy mode has been unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So what's tougher? What in his prime or a two

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Speaker 1: year old and an eight year old in the house.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean two year old and eight month old

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he got none

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Speaker 1: on them two babies. I'll tell you that right now.

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Speaker 1: The two babies are different. But also I give a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit to why he was different. But them kids,

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Speaker 1: them kids are a totally different story. I got you.

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Speaker 1: So what is your off season been so far, I

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Speaker 1: would say I'm talking about not necessarily off season program,

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Speaker 1: in March. You know, really then you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: get didn't get a chance to, you know, take as

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Speaker 1: many trips. Me and my wife went out of town

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Speaker 1: for for a little while. But other than that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, spend most of it with my kids. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, I get to work out in in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Then then after that, I'm I'm on daddy duty. We

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Speaker 1: will get to football. And one of the questions, but

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Speaker 1: what has being a father the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm taking that. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing it to the ball because all your teammates, you're

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Speaker 1: a parent and a husband. When you hear yourself introduced

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Speaker 1: as seventh year veteran a J can, what do you think? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I heard you just mentioned that before you introduced me.

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Speaker 1: Just like the same same, like it flew by and

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you that the next part. When you get

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they talk about with veteran experience.

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Speaker 1: Your feet may not move quite as fast as my mind.

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Speaker 1: Offensive line, it's always an area of focus for the fans.

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Speaker 1: that almost never happens. Where does that help you? Uh?

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Speaker 1: any impression to Trevor. Oh yeah, you know, every chance

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Speaker 1: This memory served me right. And again it's been a

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Speaker 1: while you had the long hair when you were a rookie, right, yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I will I wool my dress for four years? Okay,

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