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Speaker 1: Rogers earlier in the offseason. He won on the McAfee

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Speaker 1: set the table here. The Jets do have the thirteenth

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Speaker 1: But a lot to get to, so let's start with

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Speaker 1: Robert Sala. Official Jets Podcast is presented by Windbet Betting

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Speaker 1: Here in Arizona with Jets head coach Robert Sala. You

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Speaker 1: are looking refreshed. Yeah, get a couple of rounds of

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Speaker 1: golf in So what did you think about the league's presentation? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time as always, Thanks Eric, Appreciate you