1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: In studio right now. Punishment Martinez, Ring of Honor t 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: V Champion, How you doing. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: Doing good man? Thanks for having me, Thanks for being here. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. Ring of Honors at Minsuadatorum 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: this weekend. You're going to be putting the title up 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: on the line. Let's talk about your match. 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be facing Scorpio Sky tonight. And he's somebody who, 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: like myself, has been independently wrestling for a long time, 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: for years and hustling and you know, grinding it out, 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: and finally he's on a you know, national platform on 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: television and whatnot. So he's he's trying to showcase his 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: skills and talent and trying to move up the card, 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to keep him down so I could 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: continue moving up as well. So to be a battle 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: of like fresh faces basically for Ring of Honor. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Perfect And that's awesome. Punishment Martinez. So you just claimed 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: the title not too long ago, defeating Styles Young. Let's 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: talk about that night. I know you had the big 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: battle royal kind of thing before and then you had 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: to turn around and wrestle again. How do you train 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: for something like that? 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was a six man match where anybody 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: wins the match, they get an instant title shot right 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: there against Silas. If Silas wins a match, then that 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: person that he pins can't get another title shot while 26 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: he's champion. So I was able to win that match 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: and then defeat him in a separate singles match right after. 28 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: To prepare for something like that, it's it's basically, you know, 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: stick and move. You know, there's really no preparation. It's 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: kind of just hit people hard as hard as you 31 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: can and just keep it moving, you know, and just 32 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: be careful because you know the people are gonna be 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: attacking you from all angles, so you never know what 34 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: you're gonna get hit with or you know whatever. So 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: there's really no preparation as far as you know. Training is. 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: You know, you watch matches and you try to pick 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: up little things here and there to you know, make 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: sure your performance is you know, top notch. But besides 39 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: that is, let's see what happens. 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: Man punishment. Martinez my guest right now, and I know 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: you've gone up the ranks and the independent now you've 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: got the title around your waist. I know, last time 43 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: you were here in Nashville, you were going after the 44 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: belt and finally got it. What was it like the 45 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: night that they said, okay, this is your night, we're 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: giving it to you. 47 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, it's one of those things that you know, 48 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: when I found out the news, of course, you know, 49 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: the kid inside me, the one that this was his dream, 50 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: of course, is ecstatic. But I try not to, you know, 51 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: get too confident and over celebrate and get ahead of myself. 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: So when they told me, hey, this is the business 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: we're doing, you know, for me, it was okay, let 54 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: me just focus. I'm going out there and putting on 55 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: the best performance possible because that's my job, you know, 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: to entertain and put on a performance. And then once 57 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: it was done, once business was done and the bell rang, 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: that's when it became surreal. You know, That's when the 59 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: moment was, you know, a moment for me in my 60 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: life and my career because plans can change at any moment. 61 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: I mean, in the ring, something could have went wrong 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: and things could have changed. So I wait till the 63 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: moment actually happens to really enjoy and celebrate. So at 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: that moment, for me, it was just you know, like 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: I said, it was surreal. Was loss of words, because 66 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: you know, you work so hard at things, and when 67 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: you achieve it and you work hard for it, the 68 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: feeling is so much greater than just being handed something 69 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: or being lucky. And I'm proud of myself when the 70 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: work I've put in, you know, the people that have 71 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: backed me and you know to be put me in 72 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: this position and I was just, you know, proud, and 73 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: hopefully I can make the company proud by representing it 74 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: as a champion. 75 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: My guest punishment Martinez is hanging out with us, and 76 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, I followed your career, watch them your matches, 77 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: and you know, going up the ranks, and you don't 78 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: see a guy your size doing the high flying moves, 79 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: jumping off the top rope, jumping over the ring. What 80 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: is like that? Like, as a guy your size, you 81 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: don't see that. How do you prepare yourself to be like, Okay, 82 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to get on the top rope, look down 83 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: and be like I'm gonna just jump on that dude 84 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: and you know, elbow drop him. 85 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why guys my size don't really 86 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: do that stuff, right, you know, apparently I'm not smart 87 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: enough to acknowledge it. But it's just you got to 88 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: be willing to you know, go far and beyond what 89 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: people expect to really you know, become a star, so 90 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: to speak, you know, and that's doesn't mean by doing 91 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: crazy stunts. It could be in anything as far as 92 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: this business goes, you know, where they're saying something or 93 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: making a certain expression for me, you know, in ring 94 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: ability wise, Ring of Honor has always been known about 95 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: that the n ring, you know, the best wrestlers on 96 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: the planet. That's that's not just you know, a cool 97 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: nickname that Ring of Honor has. It's something that everybody 98 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: prides themselves in proving that that's what Ring of Honor is. 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: So when I first started with Ring of Honor, of course, 100 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: you know, I was always a good pro wrestler, but 101 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: that had to you know, adapt you know, especially to 102 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: a Ring of Honor style, because it does have its style. 103 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: And for me, it was more about, well, let me 104 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: take a little bit from everybody that's great at something, 105 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: you know. So it was lucha libre and the high 106 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: flying stuff. Let me take a little bit from there. 107 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: It was from the MMA world because that's that's where 108 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: I first started with combat, you know. Then let me 109 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: take aspects of that, you know, let me take as 110 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: of Japanese strong style, American style, you know, European style. 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: So I kind of just trained a little bit and 112 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: everything and tried to become like a hybrid of basically 113 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: different styles and different you know, forms of just entertainers. 114 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: So for me, that's how I prepared and I got 115 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say good, but at least decent at some 116 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: of those maneuvers they speak about. You know, if a guy, 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, smaller guys, when they do these moves, they 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: do them a little bit more with grace, you know, 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: mine and my land there's a little rough, but. 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: But it connects though every time. 121 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: At least I'm big enough that some part of my 122 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: body is going to connect. The other problem is the 123 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: other part is just smacking the ground or something. 124 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: What's going to hit that concrete first? 125 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: Exactly. But yeah, that's like I said, and I'm not 126 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: saying things just because I think it's the right thing 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: to say. I really worked hard at you know, becoming 128 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 2: good or decent at certain things and and priding myself 129 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: and being able to go with anybody from any style, 130 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: and part of that is being able to wrestle that 131 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: style and do the moves, and you know, that's pretty 132 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: much where that came from. As far as preparing, there 133 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: is no preparing. It's let's see what happens here. 134 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: Let's just make sure that I don't have the concrete 135 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: on my head, you know. 136 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and try not to look down. I'm not a heights, 137 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a really fan of heights. So 138 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: for me, it's funny when they're like you're not. You 139 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: do all this stuff off the top and you die 140 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: with like, yeah, but that's quick. I'm not paying attention 141 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: once I'm in the air. Always. Every time I'm in 142 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: the air, it's like it's a slow motion for me, 143 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: and I regret it every single time. 144 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: My guest Punishment Martinez is hanging out. Ring of Honor 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: is in town this weekend. He is the Ring of 146 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: Honor TV Champions. So let me ask you this. A 147 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: lot of champions have their own persona. What kind of 148 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: champ will you be for the TV Champion of Ring 149 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: of Honor? 150 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: I pretty much I'm going to stay the same who 151 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: I've been who got me here, which is just a 152 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: ba dude that just comes out and punches people in 153 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: the mouth and loves anarchy and violence and inflicting as 154 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: much pain as possible. So if that's what got me here, 155 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: I'm just going to continue doing it. I'm not going 156 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: to change anything. I'm not going to duck anybody. You know, 157 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: I haven't yet and I've been successful, So why would 158 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: I start that now while I'm champion. So no difference 159 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: in that situation, you know, I stay true to myself, 160 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: and just because what's real is that I love the 161 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: physicality of what we do, so that that's not going 162 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: to change smash mouth wrestling where I'm getting in the ring, 163 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: getting in somebody's face and hitting you as hard as 164 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: you can and then asking you to do it right 165 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: back because I love that. And so as far as 166 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: what type of champion will be, I mean, I guess 167 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: the technical term would be a fighting champion because I 168 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: like to fight. But yeah, it's just the same as 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: I've been, just the crazy maniac that loves the chaos 170 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: and inflicting anarchy and pain. 171 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Man, I think of that would be terrified if I 172 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: got in the ring with you, if it was a 173 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: title match against Punishment Martinez, I'd probably just on the 174 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: corner and just lay down and just go ahead and 175 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: take the three count So I knew you grew up 176 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: in New York going to the Garden and there was 177 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: all the talk about Ring of Honor getting the Garden thing, 178 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: and then a big corporation came in and squashed it. 179 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: But now looking to twenty nineteen, you're in the Garden. 180 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: What's that like growing up going to the Garden and 181 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: now you're going to wrestle in the garden. 182 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, winning the title was surreal, right, 183 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: But now this this is almost like the dream I 184 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: didn't know I had, but I wanted. You know, as 185 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: a teenager, I went to every in the mid nineties, 186 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: every single event wrestling event that was held at the Garden, 187 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: you know, and I saw so many memorable matches and 188 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: it really although I was already in love with wrestling, 189 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: it really solidified me as wanting to do that and 190 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: just being in the Garden feeling that aura and not 191 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: because I didn't think Ring of Honor was capable. I 192 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 2: just didn't think that that was even a possibility. It 193 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: just the thought never crossed my mind. I thought, you know, 194 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: working the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan Center, that was like 195 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: I thought that was the biggest deal as far as 196 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: New York is concerned and Arena. And then when the 197 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: news of MSG came out, it was no way. You know, 198 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: that was my reaction. I was like, this can't be real. 199 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: This is not real life. And then you know, it 200 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: was disappointing when it got taken away for a minute, 201 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: you know, but I said it then too. I was like, well, 202 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: now it's it's no way, it's not going to happen. 203 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: And Ring of Honor has become undeniable, you know. And 204 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: like I said, with the whole aspect of Ring of 205 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: Honor wanted to be the rest of wrestling on the planet. 206 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: The talent takes that to heart. You know. We strive 207 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: to put on the best performance possible every single match, 208 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: not just depending where we are, where we are on 209 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: the card or you know what Creative is doing. No, 210 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: we take pride in what we do every time we 211 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: go out there, no matter what. And I think that's 212 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: helped propel us as a whole a company. And now 213 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: and it's the fans like they're like, no, this is 214 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: going to happen. We want this, we want to be 215 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: there and I know it's going to sell out, it's 216 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: going to be it's history making you know so part 217 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: of this Also we know that this is historic. Do 218 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: we know that this is something that will last forever? 219 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: Your your name would be in history, you know. So 220 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: for us, it's obviously extra exciting. I don't want to 221 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: speak for anybody else, but I say, it's not like 222 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna work any harder now, because that would imply 223 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: that I haven't been working as hard as I can. 224 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: So I'm just going to continue working as hard as 225 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: I can to make sure that at least on my part, 226 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: I deliver and I make you, my company, my co workers, 227 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 2: my fans, and everybody between proud. But yeah, this is 228 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: what a time to be, not just in wrestling, but 229 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: Ring of Honor specifically because of how much the company's 230 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: grown in the last couple of years. This is like, hey, 231 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: you're welcome, guys. This is for you, you know, yeah, 232 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: And it's so such a cool feeling, man, it really is. 233 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: Everybody's so excited. 234 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, When this takes place 235 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden, are you going to go to 236 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: and try to find the seat that you set in 237 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: when you went to the garden. 238 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I've sent in so many different seats, so 239 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: it'd be hard to find and they were pretty high up, 240 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: so it'll it'll be cool to be on this side 241 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: actually performing. You know. I've been at the garden, you know, 242 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: and as an extra you know before, but not not 243 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: where I am at today obviously. 244 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Where you walk down the ramp, you hear your music, 245 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: you hear their name, and it'll. 246 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: Be my music. It'll be about me and I'll be performing. 247 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: I'll be the star and I'll you know, It's just 248 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: I can't believe that this, Like I said, I can't 249 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: believe this is real life. You know. We we work 250 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: so hard and we have dreams and everything, but when 251 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: they come true or when things that unexpected like this, 252 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: I like, like I said, I really wasn't expecting to 253 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: ever really really be you know, featured in Mansesterka Garden. 254 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: Now this is an actual possibility. It's you lose words. 255 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, when I get there, I'm definitely gonna want 256 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: to take a tour around the building by myself, you know, 257 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: before the fans come in, because of so many memories 258 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: that I had there as a kid, and you know, 259 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: just kind of take it in before everybody gets it, 260 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: because once people start showing up, you know, you kind 261 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: of get in the zone and you stop. I can't 262 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: focus on the moment as far as you know, here, 263 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: guys like enjoy it out there, really appreciate, you know, 264 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: look around, and when I do that, I feel like 265 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: I leave my focus right And it's happened to me 266 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: before where I'll look around and I really try to 267 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: take it in and it really almost backfires on me, 268 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: where it's like, oh wait, I got to reset myself 269 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: to get ready for the match and be ready for 270 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: that attitude that I need to have to put on 271 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: a certain performance, and people really feel that energy for me. 272 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: So I'd like to do that before the shows, you know, 273 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: so I'll be walking around and kind of enjoying that 274 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: part and then hopefully just deliver along with everybody else 275 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: in the company and New Japan. 276 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: That's going to be crazy looking forward to that. My guest, 277 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: Punishment Martinez is hanging out with US. Ring of Honor 278 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: is in town this weekend. What is I guess Punishment's 279 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: dream match? Who are you going against? Any title in 280 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: the world on the line? 281 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: What is it? Well? I mean it. I'd be silly 282 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: if I didn't say that facing the Undertaker wouldn't be 283 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: a dream when he's the person that really got me obsessed. 284 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: With That was kind of what I was gonna say. 285 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: It would be my dream aatch you two, because I 286 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: see a little bit of Undertaker and you doing your matches, 287 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, if these two could go at it. 288 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you say that, you know, because that's 289 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: in a respect way I try to do that where 290 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: I try to show aspects of him because he is 291 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: the reason why I decided this is what I wanted 292 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: to do with my life. So for me, that would 293 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: be the ultimate dream match. I don't know if that 294 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: one's a possibility, just because it's twenty eighteen, you know, 295 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: and I know his years are winding down and whatnot, 296 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: so that would be the ultimate one. But now, you know, 297 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: as far as within reachable capacity, you know, with the 298 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: Ring of Honor and New Japan SEMLO, for me, it's 299 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 2: always of course that there's so much talent that I 300 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: could really pick out anybody and have these incredible, you know, 301 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: fantastic matches. So for me, it's well, let's go for 302 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: the top guys, then let's go for the champions. So 303 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: right now, the champions keny Omega and New Japan, So 304 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: that would be one. If Okada, you know, was it 305 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: still the champion, I'd be saying O Tanahashi or you 306 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: know whoever. So right now I would have to be 307 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: Okada and Jay Lethal, who I've already had matches with, 308 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: but headline a show like a pay per view for 309 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: the world title, that would be something special. So though 310 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: these are the like for me, the immediate dream matches 311 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: are against the guys that are the main draw, the 312 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: main attraction, you know, because that means that there's more 313 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: attention on what we're doing, you know. But to pick 314 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: somebody over another because I think what I think of 315 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: their innering ability doubts really difficult, just because there's so 316 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: much talent today, I think, more than any time in 317 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: the history of pro wrestling everywhere, not just in major companies, 318 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: there's everywhere, you know, independent companies alike, in different parts 319 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: of the world. There's so many good pro wrestles. Is 320 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: to pick one just because of ability would be I think, 321 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: doing a disservice to everybody else. So I'll stick with 322 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: the main eventors in every company. That's what I want 323 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: to work with, you know. 324 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I got to say, you talked about Kenny Omega. I 325 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: would definitely pay big money to see that match. You 326 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: two going at it like that would be a dream 327 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: match in my opinion. 328 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he uh, I mean he's good. Huh yeah. 329 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: And I mean watch, like I said, watching your career 330 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: go up, I was like, this is it like I 331 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: see you as the face one day. 332 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the goal, and that's what we all 333 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: strive for. At least that's what we should or else 334 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: there's no reason, you know, to be doing this. So 335 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: for me, it's to keep moving up the ladder because 336 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: I do want to end up being an attraction. I 337 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: do want to end up being the main event, the 338 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: main guy in the company and the company, the guy 339 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: that the company puts you know, it's stock in and 340 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: puts that rocket and shoots him through the moon. And 341 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: I said this, you know a last month before my 342 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: pay per view match with Paige, where it was like, well, 343 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: what's your issue with Page, It was like, well, because 344 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: we're both see each other as that guy, right, we 345 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: know we're being primed and we're getting ready to go 346 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: to that next step, next level, to the main event 347 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: scene and stay there and not look back. And I 348 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: think we're both kind of like, well, if this is 349 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: basically we're in the same boat at opposite ends, why 350 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: shouldn't we cross paths like this? This should be a problem. 351 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: We should have an issue with each other for them, 352 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: for just the sake of competition, you know. And that 353 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: was my main issue with him as far as like 354 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: our feud. It was like, well, what's the point of 355 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: your feedom like, because we want to be the guy, right, 356 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: you know, so why wouldn't you want to dethrown that guy? 357 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: I think back to the nineties again with Rock and Hunter. 358 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: You know, those guys they were the next crop of 359 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: guys that were going to be at the top, so 360 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: it made sense that they feuded first before they were 361 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: there to kind of solify who was who, and then 362 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: it just continued on. I can I fully expect to 363 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: continue feuding with him and others like Scorpio Skuy that 364 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: I'll be facing this weekend. So for me, you know, yes, 365 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: I do see myself there because that's what I'm working 366 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: hard for. Is that the way life works. Of course, 367 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: not just because you work hard on something doesn't mean 368 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: that it's you know, you deserve it. That's not real life. 369 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: You know. Sometimes the the least deserving person, you know, wins. 370 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's just that's just the way it goes. 371 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: But I really do believe you put yourself in the 372 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: best position possible to achieve certain things putting into work. 373 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: So if as long as I continue to do that, 374 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: I expect to have those type of dream matches with 375 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: Kenny omega O Katabushi, you know again, main eventing with 376 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: guys like Jay Leito and Cody and you know, and 377 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: so far and so on. So as long as that 378 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: pen into work, I really do believe those things are 379 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: achievable and and it'll happen. 380 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: Man. I will say this, I'm looking forward to seeing 381 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: what the future holds for Punishment's career. Like I've been falling. 382 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been following your career and just 383 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: seeing everything in the steps and then putting that that 384 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: right there just shows that they're looking at you as 385 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: the next guy. And I'm very excited to see how 386 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: your career is going to go. 387 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: I appreciate that, I really do, and I appreciate that 388 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: people notice, you know, because it's not that we need 389 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: people to kind of tell us and you know, pat 390 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: us in the back and everything. But once in a while, 391 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: it's good to hear that people take notice that you're 392 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, what you're doing, and how hard of a 393 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: struggle that you've dealt with and things you overcame and 394 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: you know, and where you are today and how you 395 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: keep trying to move forward. So it's it's always cool 396 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: to hear. I appreciate it. 397 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: And no problem. Last question, and this is this is 398 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be a fun one. When does Punishment get 399 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: his own pop figure? 400 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: That's a good one. You know. I had a fan 401 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: make me one when we were at the World the 402 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: World's Tour, the last one in Canada. 403 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 404 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: One of the guys came up to me, he's like, hey, 405 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: a fan dropped us off and it was I had 406 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: my own. It was a figure that they made for me, 407 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is really cool. I was like, hey, 408 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: r H, when you're getting a deal guys, you know, 409 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: when's this happening? I want a legit one in stores. 410 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't control those things, 411 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: and obviously I'm not at the fame level as the 412 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: Bullet Club guys and and everything. So but again, you know, 413 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: we keep moving forward and keep climbing that ladder and 414 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: hopefully you know, more things like that come, and you 415 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: know it won't just be fan made, it will be actually, 416 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, company based products that will be in stores, 417 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: and you know those are also goals and dreams that 418 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: you can have, and I think they're also achievable. So 419 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: hopefully soon, man I asked. All I could say about that, 420 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: I wish I could control it, but I don't, But 421 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: hopefully soon. 422 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: Well cool, my guest Punishment Martinez is hanging out with us. 423 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: He's at Ring of Honor this weekend, putting the title 424 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: up on the line. Definitely should check it out. One 425 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: more question for those that are still kind of new 426 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: to Ring of Honor, what can they see at a 427 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: Ring of Honor show compared to the other companies. 428 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Well, like I said before, you know, we pride ourselves 429 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: and being the best professional wrestling company in the world, 430 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: not just hey, we're going to entertain you however we can. No, No, 431 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: we're a professional wrestling company. So we're going to entertain 432 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: you with professional wrestling, and not one person male it 433 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: in at any point in time. So you're gonna see 434 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: an action packed show that's basically for the whole family, 435 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: and we strive to put on the best performance possible 436 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: every single night, no matter where we are on the card, 437 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: no matter what state or country we're in. So when 438 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: you see it, you're gonna see guys literally putting their 439 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: lives on the line for your entertainment. And not to 440 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: take anything away from any other company, but these guys 441 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: are just phenomenal. I look around the locker room sometimes 442 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: and I'm in all and I as a fan. I'm 443 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: still very much a fan. I sit backstage and watch 444 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: through the curtain to watch matches and be entertain myself. 445 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: So if if me being in the business, I can 446 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: still get entertained by my co workers, I fully expect 447 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: fans to feel that tenfold. So if you're new or 448 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: you haven't really seen anything yet, I would strongly suggest 449 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: checking it out and you won't be disappointed, especially showing 450 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: up live to an event. There's just nothing like going 451 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: to an event live. So if you're able to, especially 452 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: a Ring of Honor event, I would definitely invest your 453 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: money in it. 454 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: Once again, my guest Punishment Martinez is hanging out with us. 455 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: He's at Ring of Honor this weekend. It's at Mendipua 456 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: to tourm You still get tickets, uh, he's going to 457 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: be there with the belt and uh man, dude, thank 458 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: you so much for stopping by 459 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: My pleasure, Thanks for having me