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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up? Straight fire, fam,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight fire for Monday, June seven. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Clippers fans, I know you're here. I know you can't wait.

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Speaker 1: You can't wait to do a victory lap and grave dance.

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Speaker 1: Oh McIntyre was wrong, he owes Clipper Darrell will get

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Speaker 1: to the Clippers. Take a deep breath. It's Monday. Relax.

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Speaker 1: Quick notes from the weekend before we get to the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Who I can still call the paper clips, Um Clippers

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Speaker 1: Tray young Hawks win? Um? I like this Hawks team.

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Speaker 1: I'm it's spicy. They are gonna win this series. Um,

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Speaker 1: we will do James Harden injury. Um, this is you know,

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash said his heart breaks for Harden with the hamstring,

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Speaker 1: And when you say your heartbreaks, it probably means Harden

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Speaker 1: to Harden. I do quickly need to mention NFL news,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones is going to the Tennessee Titans. Now, faithful

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Speaker 1: listeners to this podcast, that's not really news to them,

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Speaker 1: because back on your Boy, that's me said. I had

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Speaker 1: what about the Patriots? All Patriots Julio Jones. According to

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Speaker 1: like a last ditch effort. Hey, everybody, it's us Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: We have our final offer from the Tennessee Titans. Can

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem like that's going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: So Julio expected to land with the Titans today. All right, Now,

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Speaker 1: They win Game seven. Clippers. Clippers win Game seven as

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Speaker 1: they were favored to do. They were favorite, I think

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Speaker 1: series victory. The Lakers are done. The Clippers were live

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Speaker 1: if everybody was so excited. And you know, of course,

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Speaker 1: The Mavericks lost, like like take a deeper, like it's

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and the Lakers up to one, he gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: a minute. So congratulations Clipper Darryl Clipper Nation. You guys

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Speaker 1: are pumped up. You know you needed those seven threes

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Speaker 1: My gosh, Luke and Ard eleven points sixty four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: let me just remind everybody, Marcus Morris made seven threes.

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Speaker 1: Can you count on that? Every game? The Mavericks themselves

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Speaker 1: This is not about the Clippers, guys. You can get

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Speaker 1: By the way, Vegas has Utah favorite in the series,

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Speaker 1: So Clippers, Hey, get excited. That's fine, I get it.

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Speaker 1: you ready for this? Rob? Rob came up with this.

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Speaker 1: hopefully game three, but who knows. And when I read

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Speaker 1: that headline or that quote, I was legitimately nervous for

420
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Net fans because I saw, and you saw, and

421
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: the world saw what happened to Anthony Davis when the

422
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: Lakers said we gotta have this one. We need you,

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00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: we need I know you're only six, gonna put you

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00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: out there and and and let you give it a go.

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00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: And you've said, I think now for months, maybe when

426
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: the trade went down, like once you saw they were

427
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: a pretty good team, that James Harden is the engine

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Speaker 1: to that roster. He he's the guy who makes it

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Speaker 1: all go. He's what makes them the Nets other than

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Speaker 1: just Kyrie and and and Katie being two stars. It's

431
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: like they're not the Nets without James Harden plan point guard.

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00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: And if they try to rush him back, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: they won't, then I'm not confident he'll be able to

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Speaker 1: not just plant finish out this series, but the rest

435
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Speaker 1: of the postseason because if they go any further, so

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Speaker 1: I think that they will air on the side of

437
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: caution and hold him out until he's right. But the

438
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: problem is, I don't know if they can beat Milwaukee

439
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Speaker 1: without James Harden. Like Kyrie Irving for all of his

440
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Speaker 1: strings as a player, he had I think twenty six

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Speaker 1: shot attempts and eight assists in a game where they

442
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Speaker 1: scored a hundred and fifteen points. Yeah, I bet his

443
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Speaker 1: over three and a half assists, and I think heading

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00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: into the fourth he had three assists, so like and

445
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Speaker 1: maybe quasi garbage time he stacked up on the assists.

446
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: Uh did only have one turnover, um, But yeah, I'm

447
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: largely with you. Uh. I feel I do feel bad

448
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: for Harden. And it's weird because I actually like Harden more.

449
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound crazy because of how he forced

450
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: his way out of Houston. He needed to do that.

451
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: He looks like a bad guy, but it was the

452
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: right thing to do. Like, sometimes you've got to do

453
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Speaker 1: the right thing, even if it's gonna make you look

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Speaker 1: like a jerk. And I think Harden comes off a

455
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: huge win. Huge. Um I don't do you want to

456
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: do a minute on the Son's Nuggets or is that

457
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: like the least interesting game in the second series in

458
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Speaker 1: the second round. I would agree with the second part

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Speaker 1: that you said. Um and and it's unfortunate because I

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00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: think that Phoenix with the Lakers out, is the best

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00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: team in the West. Um and And it's this the

462
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: story of this whole postseason. And it's unfortunate is is

463
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: how is Chris Paul Shoulder gonna hold up? Like we

464
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: talked about it off the air, six of the eight

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00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: teams that are in the postseason, they're still remaining, are

466
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Speaker 1: without a key starter or a limited key starter, you know,

467
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Joe l emb Chris Paul, Jamal Murray had never showed up,

468
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: James Harden And it's like, whoever is the healthiest. It

469
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: feels like it's going to be the one who ends

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00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: up posting the trophy. Yeah, it's it's almost it's funny.

471
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: In the bubble. It was supposed to be a war

472
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Speaker 1: of attrition, right, like who can withstand who's mentally strong enough?

473
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Speaker 1: And this year it's simply a battle of health. If

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Speaker 1: you're healthy, there's a good chance you can win. Now,

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00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go overboard and say the Atlanta Hawks

476
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: are the only team that's really healthy. The Clippers actually

477
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: are the other team that doesn't have a starter who's

478
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: injured right now. Obviously, the Sixers, as if it had

479
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: them beat, he did not look like a Sunday. The

480
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: Nets have Harden the Jazz, Mike Conley's hammy. The Nuggets

481
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: have Jamal Murray and Will Barton, although I don't know

482
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: if Barton is eligible to come back this series, but

483
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: he ain't. No Jamal Murray, um Bucks with DiVincenzo, and

484
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: the Sons with the Chris Paul shoulder thing. Um So yeah,

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00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: it's tough for me to come in and say Sons

486
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: are gonna win the series because if Chris Paul goes down,

487
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I you know, you could argue if

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00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: Chris Paul goes down, the Nuggets have three of the

489
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: four best players in the series, right Devin Booker for

490
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: the Sons, but Yokich, Porter and Gordon. And by the way,

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00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put this out there, don't be surprised

492
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: when Aaron Gordon starts off on Darren Devin Booker night,

493
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: because if you watch the series closely. Aaron Gordon was

494
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: guarding Dame Lillard a lot, and Lillard still got his.

495
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: But Gordon was an interesting matchup. Um, he's a good defender. Man,

496
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: he's very long, uh deep book. You know they love

497
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: to curl off the screens. The Son's offense is kind

498
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: of predictable. Um, I am curious how eight and goes

499
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: at at it with Yokich. It's weird, like some if

500
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: you put into YouTube eight and versus Yokich, somebody took

501
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: one of their matchups and just cut up every head

502
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: to head matchup they had in the game, and eighton

503
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: did pretty well. Now it's it is regular season, so

504
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: you know those but I think Eton can hold those own.

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00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I kind of assuming health is accurate. Everybody's fine. I

506
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: like the Sons in five. I think they rolled kind

507
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: of handily, probably an overreaction to you know, beating in

508
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: the Lakers without a D because remember the Suns were

509
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: down to one and they were toast. Um, so I'll

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00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: go Sons in five. I'm keeping my Hawks in six.

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00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: Pick Um, I'm gonna go Jazz in did I said Jazz?

512
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: I think Jazz and seven and I'm gonna go Bucks

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00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: now with the hardened injury, I'll go Bucks in six. Um.

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00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: Do you want to counter any of those or do

515
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: you just I would think I agree with who you

516
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: have winning. Actually I do have Philly still beating Atlanta. Um.

517
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: I think that, uh, Doc Rivers made a monumental mistake

518
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: by saying, let me not put Fible or Simmons on

519
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Tree Young and let's just put Danny Green, who runs

520
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: like he has, you know, a backpack and roller skates

521
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: on like he He looks so uncomfortable out there. So

522
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: I think you'll see an adjustment there in game two. Um.

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00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: But I'm for the most part agree with your picks

524
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: on who's gonna win each series. I do have Phoenix

525
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: in six. Should I think that? I think Yoki is

526
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna eat up Etan in this series, and he is

527
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: the only legitimate center that they have on that roster.

528
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't count Kaminski or Sorry as guys

529
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: who can who can go to totale with him. So

530
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: I expect Yokich to do just like he did in Narkiches,

531
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: get Etan in foul trouble early and and and force

532
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: them to play five out and hope what that happens.

533
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: But Yokis is gonna be averaging like thirty two, twelve

534
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: and nine in this year. It's gonna be something ridiculous. Yeah,

535
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty insane. Fox Sports Radio has the best

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Speaker 1: I do want to wrap up the podcast because with

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Speaker 1: one um, with one note, we had Damon Jones on

541
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: last week and he was steadfast that Tyler is a

542
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: great coach, and I was like, we don't really know,

543
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: we just don't. I'm sorry, barely been a head coach?

544
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Is that Lebron and now as Kawhi Leonard And I

545
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: did get a detection that, oh, Tyler, this is a

546
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: pretty impressive stat I was not aware of this. Tyler

547
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: was now four and oh in game seven as a

548
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: head coach. Now what are we to make of that?

549
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Rob four and O in Game Seven's like on the surface,

550
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: hey man, that's a big game in your winning I

551
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: just have problems when three of them came with Lebron. Okay,

552
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: he beat the Pacers, beat the Celtics Pacers at home,

553
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: Celtics on the road, Warriors on the road, and now

554
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: Kauai beats um Dallas at home. So it's just I'm sorry.

555
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: I know people want me to just capitulate and say,

556
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: give Tyler Louis props man, he's a right coach, like

557
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, rob And again I get it. The

558
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: fans will say that Tyler has had two of the twenty.

559
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to keep too much

560
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: praise on Kauai, but he's been what a two time

561
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: finals MVP? Yeah, pretty defensive Player of the year, he's

562
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good player. Yeah. I mean, I don't

563
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: know what it's quiet top five player all time. I

564
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: don't know. It might be I have to really dive

565
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: into it. But does that mean yeah, we we have

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00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: you say that, right? He's won titles with two different

567
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: teams and they could win a title this year, And like,

568
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: how are we to judge? This is a really difficult question.

569
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: It's like a nuanced answer that people are not gonna like.

570
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: But like it's okay to say I don't know how

571
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: to accurately judge Tyler while at the same time sing, well, no,

572
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Tyler doesn't have to coach the Orlando Magic for five

573
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: years for me to find out if he's good or

574
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: not and then if he can get to the playoffs,

575
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Tyler really good. The reality is, and we

576
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: talked about this, you need stars to win in the league.

577
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: So Tyler has now had stars Lebron Kauai, he's won

578
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: four game Seven's like, he's doing what he's supposed to

579
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: do and is that unfair? That well wait, so he's

580
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: doing what he's supposed to do and you don't want

581
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: to give him his props, like how does Tyler win?

582
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: And I guess that's where I get a little bit stuck. Yeah,

583
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's fair, And you talked about with Damon Jones.

584
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: It's it's almost impossible to have that conversation because, like

585
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: you said, guys and new good players. He brought up

586
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr in the interview. Steve Kerr when his Big

587
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: three was hurt, had the worst team in the NBA.

588
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: So that goes to you, but I will give time.

589
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, interesting you brought up Kurt and

590
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I pushed him on this, I'd

591
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: have to go back and listen. Steve Kerrn arad a

592
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: team that was pretty darn good, but could not get

593
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: over the hump. So Steve Kerk goes there, makes a

594
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a Draymond Green tweak and they make

595
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: the jump to light speed and they're unstoppable and they

596
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: win I think sixty seven and a title and seventy

597
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: three and lose in Game seven. So he took a

598
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: good team and made it great historically great. Right, That's

599
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: that's factual. Yes, Like that's different than just going and

600
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: coaching with Lebron and Kuai. I think, I mean you

601
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: watch the fourth quarter of Game six, uh and I

602
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think third quarter COI was pretty awesome

603
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: in Game seven. But Game six, fourth quarter it was

604
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: basically Kauai at the top one on one, like there

605
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: was no there were no plays being run, guys, there

606
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: was there was no awesome strategy like Luca don Chech

607
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: wore down in the fourth quarter. Kawhi Leonard went one

608
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: on one with Dorrian Phineas Smith or Tim Hardaway and

609
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: just a m up. He couldn't miss, like he's done

610
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: that before. And that's why it's challenging. It's okay to say,

611
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying he's not a good coach. I'm

612
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: not saying he's crap. I'm just saying I don't think

613
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: anybody can accurately say what he is. Yeah, I mean,

614
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: but I'll give him credit for this in in this

615
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: last series against Dallas, I believe in games one and

616
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: two that Rondo and pat Bev both play big minutes,

617
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: and they lost both of those games. By game seven,

618
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: pat Bev didn't play. I think Rondo played very limited

619
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Speaker 1: minutes and he gave those minutes instead to Terrence Man

620
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: and Luke Kenard and it paid off. Counter I'm not

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Speaker 1: being able to push the right buttons. I believe makes you,

622
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: at worst a good coach. Got it. When you're down

623
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Speaker 1: oh two and you lodge the first two at home,

624
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: you absolutely have to do something. You can't ride out

625
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: the same thing and bang her head into a wall

626
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: for for a third grade game, So you have to

627
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: do something and listen. Kerr has credited. I think there

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Speaker 1: was a video guy forget who what his name is,

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Speaker 1: but there was a video guy in Olden State who said,

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Speaker 1: we need to do the death lineup, look at these numbers,

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Speaker 1: and that's when they went with Draymond. Maybe it's my guy,

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Speaker 1: Dante Jones saying Listen, we gotta get team man out there,

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Speaker 1: somebody on the on the Clippers bench, and maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: Dante Jones, uh would would be willing to come on

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Speaker 1: the podcast after the season. I don't know, We'll have

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Speaker 1: to see. Uh. You know, I've gone in on the

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Speaker 1: Clippers kind of hard, maybe a tough sell, but I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to get that Tylu situation out there. I'll

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Speaker 1: also add this, um like, how do we judge Nate McMillan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys saw the Hawks first half of

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Speaker 1: the season with Lloyd Pierce injured, and they were a

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Speaker 1: borderline top ten seed, right, I mean, they're barely in there.

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Speaker 1: Um name McMillan comes in when they fired the guy,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that Atlanta Hawks are in

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference semis and they're up one nothing with

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Speaker 1: a great road wind. And this is the same Nate McMillan.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you the last time

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Speaker 1: you want to playoff Series? Two thousand and five Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Seattle name mc millan in Indiana lost in the first round,

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Speaker 1: lost in the first round, first round, twenty's seventeen first round.

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Speaker 1: Then he was in Portland before that, lost in the first,

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Speaker 1: lost in the first, lost in the first, missed the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Seattle was the last time he got out of the

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Speaker 1: first round. Like, I mean, they're there's a fifteen your

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Speaker 1: body of work, that name Millan is a good coach

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, and then the playoffs companies like,

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Speaker 1: oh what am I doing? Or didn't have the talent,

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Speaker 1: and so this is a very difficult there's no easy answers.

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Speaker 1: Oh this guy good coach. I mean, yeah, you could

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Speaker 1: say Phil Jackson the greatest the rings. Look at all

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Speaker 1: of them. Okay, you know Jordan's and then well he

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Speaker 1: didn't have Jordan because Jordan's hadn't won anything until Phil

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Speaker 1: Jackson showed up and said, you can't just score thirty

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Speaker 1: five forty a game. We need to run an offense

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Speaker 1: and get the other guys involved. Scottie Pippott, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be the wingman, and Michael gonna run the triangle and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pass more. And Michael Jordan goes from really

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Speaker 1: great score, great two way talent, to holy cow, this

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Speaker 1: guy is historically awesome thanks to Phil Jackson. Obviously, Jordan

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Speaker 1: at the talent, but Phil Jackson and it's on the Jordan's. Uh,

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Speaker 1: fan boys are gonna be like, oh, you're hating on Jordan. No, no,

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Speaker 1: these are facts. This is how what happened. This is

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Speaker 1: what went down. Like Jordan's had coaches, including Doug Collins,

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Speaker 1: who we loved if you saw Last Dance. Then he

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Speaker 1: gets Phil Jackson institute some structure. Jordan's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and then boom, it's like, oh wow, now you could

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Speaker 1: also say interesting. Phil Jackson arrives at the end of

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Speaker 1: the Bad Boys era. They had gone to the finals

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Speaker 1: I think three years in a row and they were gassed.

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Speaker 1: Might have been four, I don't know. I think it

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Speaker 1: was three and they were just they were white and

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Speaker 1: they had injuries. That year Bulls stomp him out. Four Oh,

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Speaker 1: Celtics were done, Lakers were done Magic Uh you know

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Speaker 1: after after the Bulls beat him, um and six final year,

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Speaker 1: Lakers were done. So Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, the three dominant

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Speaker 1: teams from the eighties who I think won every title

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Speaker 1: except like one that the Sixers won. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: all happened to run out of gas or players or

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Speaker 1: injuries or whatever. As Phil Jackson got to to uh Chicago,

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Speaker 1: So like you know, Timing is everything. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Um just it's just it's a fund and I could

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Speaker 1: do these all day, you know. Um, I don't know, Rob,

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Speaker 1: we should probably wrap it up here. Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what Tyler are we are we short changing him? Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. I mean, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say he's a bad coach. I think his record has

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Speaker 1: done well enough. And and you mentioned it exactly there

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Speaker 1: that part of being a good coach is getting the

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Speaker 1: most out of the talent that you have. And if

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Speaker 1: you got good talent, it's turning him from a decent

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Speaker 1: team to a great team, a great team into an

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Speaker 1: extraordinary team. And well, time will tell what happens with

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Speaker 1: these Clippers, but um, we'll see. Yeah, alright, guys, we

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Speaker 1: will talk to you Manyana