1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: and out podcast recording this Thursday afternoon, post Masters, What 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: a day. We're gonna talk football today, though, We're gonna 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: talk a lot of football, Lamar mac Jones, the ramifications 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: of that big Panthers Bears trade, a theory I have 6 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: with the story that's been leaked out about the Cardinals 7 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: and ownership and some weird stuff's going on there, as 8 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: well as some other NFL nuggets. So we'll go football 9 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: podcast here. 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But we actually watched the games, so 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, they have this off season of movement, of trades, 48 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: of people pissed off. But then when the season starts, 49 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: we consume the games. The regular season does historic numbers, playoffs, 50 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: super Bowl, and before the draft, every team their general 51 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: manager and coach. I technically your GM just has talk, 52 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: but a lot of teams go up with the GM 53 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: and the coach show a united front. Are mandated to talk. 54 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: It's positive, right, it gets headlines. It keeps the NFL 55 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: when nothing is going on. Right, the draft is still 56 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: a month away in the headlines. Now, most people do 57 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: this press conference because I don't know, everyone just talked 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: to the owners meetings closer to the draft. But for 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: whatever reason, the Ravens, Eric da Costa and John Harbaugh 60 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: held their press conference early in April. A little head scratcher. 61 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the Lamar deal, but there was a video 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: to Win viral of their PR guy basically screaming at 63 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: reporters to shut up. Right, you can't ask that question 64 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: about Lamar. We are not addressing that like anyone cares 65 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: who you're going to draft in the fourth round. But 66 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: let me just for those of you that don't understand 67 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the in football, there is a head of PR and 68 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: he basically is in charge of coaches and general managers 69 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: their interviews with the press whenever they go to a 70 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: press conference, letting them know, you know, kind of what's 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: going on, some potential questions that are going to be asked. 72 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: He's kind of the conduit of the media and the brass. 73 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Even though obviously a lot of gms and coaches know 74 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of us. I don't consider myself media, but 75 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, people that talk about football right, 76 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: about football, on TV, about football. But they play a 77 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: key role so forever, Like with the forty nine ers, 78 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: I went to practice, I got a player on our 79 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: radio show, then our podcast. I would go through Bob Lang. 80 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: You wanted to talk to, you know, the head coach, 81 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: a coordinator, a position player you would talk about. He 82 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: would take care of you to get you know, a 83 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: credential if you wanted to come to practice. For all 84 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the media that travels, he takes care of them on 85 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: the road. That's his role. He's now actually with the 86 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: Eagles and Bob Blank's the best, but that's their role. 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: It's it's hard, but ultimately that guy and I saw 88 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: a lot of people on the interweb talking shit about 89 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the PR guy who is screaming at the media to 90 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: stop asking about Lamar. He works for John Harbob makes 91 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess ten to twelve million dollars and Eric 92 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: da Costa makes I'm gonna guess two to three million dollars. 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: The PR guide is not you know, probably if he's 94 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: doing well in two fifty two hundred and fifty K. 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: So his job he answers for those guys, right if 96 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: they want something, they're telling him what to do in 97 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: that situation, specifically with Lamar, because overall was a pretty 98 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: embarrassing moment for the Ravens, and honestly, like the Ravens 99 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: are great when they can dictate the terms and leak 100 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: stuff through the media. Eric da Costa specifically, yet he's 101 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: fumbled now multiple times. Remember it was at the combine 102 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: when he talked about the wide receivers not doing a 103 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: great job when he literally just draft a wide receiver 104 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: in the first round and that guy started tweeting like 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: he kind of fumbles on his word sometimes. And in 106 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: that moment when you're having a press conference, and I 107 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: understand that it is a draft press conference, but there 108 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: are three teams right now in the league. If they 109 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: are going to have a press conference, whether it's about 110 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: the stadium, whether it's about the draft, whether it's about 111 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: fucking the cleats, the only question and the elephant in 112 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: the room that matters is the quarterback situation. That is 113 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: the Packers, that is the Jets, and that is the Ravens. 114 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: So when your coach and your GM get in front 115 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: of a microphone with the assembled quote unquote press, I 116 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: hate that word. I think it's a little archaic and 117 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: outdated because, you know, it's like a blogger, a pressor 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: is you know, is a member of the press? Is 119 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: US podcasters or we a member of the press. It's 120 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: more eclectic group. But my point being is no one 121 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: inside that room gave a flying you know what about 122 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: your knee on the third day of the draft. There 123 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: is one main, you know, situation in that franchise that 124 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: trumps everything by a country mile, and that is this 125 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: current Lamar situation. He is literally tweeting, calling you guys liars. 126 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: So this notion that no one in that room could 127 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: ask about Lamar to me is either. I just think 128 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: it's beyond stupid. It doesn't make any sense, and it 129 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: ended up being a pretty just kind of a joke 130 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: moment for a franchise that you know, historically is pretty 131 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: buttoned up, like these guys know what they're doing, but 132 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: this situation and it feels both sides. I've been critical 133 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: of the way Lamars to handle stuff, but I'll be 134 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: critical the way the Ravens if it doesn't feel like, 135 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, are we sure Eric de Costa as good 136 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: at his job? That would be the number one thing 137 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I would ask, because this situation just is not going 138 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: well for anyone involved. It is very, very clunky. And 139 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: that was a moment a couple days ago in the 140 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: Ravens facility that I think they'd like to have back, 141 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: because it's easy, like I understand what can really be said, 142 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: just make a blanket statement at the beginning, but to 143 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: just attack people for asking about it. I'm sorry, guys, 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: we don't care about your need in the third round, 145 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: like you going wide receiver or linebacker, Like, what are 146 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: you gonna do with your star quarterback? You're gonna trade them, 147 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna sign them. What is the update? Because right 148 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: now that is the only thing that matters with the Ravens. 149 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: And then another situation that feels, let's face it, as 150 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: the most noisy I would say six months that I 151 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: ever remember with the New England Patriots. Now, part of 152 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: it is when Brady was around, they were constantly winning, 153 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: and even drama didn't stick to them long because then 154 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: they would just win. They would just get to the 155 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So winning Trump's everything. And I think now 156 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: that the Paths are not some dominant organization and a 157 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: team that's been to the playoffs once in three years. 158 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Stuff when it gets noisy kind of sticks to them. 159 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: And there was a Florida report that they're shopping mac 160 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Jones and listen, I was on record for the moment 161 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: the draft happened. I was not a mac Jones fan. 162 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Under no circumstances would I had taken them in the 163 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: first round. I thought it would have been a fireable offense. 164 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: If Kyle Shanahan would have taken him number three overall, 165 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: and listen, I don't even think Trey Lance is that 166 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: great anymore either, But I understand like a high ceiling guy, 167 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: you can't take a lower ceiling guy when a high 168 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: floor is not guaranteed in the draft. And now the 169 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Pats have this situation with Mac Jones where I think 170 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a double edged sword here because the 171 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Patriots rich to blame and Max to blame. Belichick hired 172 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Matpatris should be his offensive coordinator. That was, you know, 173 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: one of the low moments in the franchise in a 174 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: two and a half decade span. Honestly, probably the biggest 175 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: head scratcher of that time might not be a close second, right, 176 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: but Mac Jones one didn't play very well and two 177 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: acted like a baby. And I think a lot of 178 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: times during the draft, a huge part of this process 179 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: is about doing your due diligence with guys to find 180 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: out maturity focus. And we use this word a lot 181 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: in the scouting terms. Honestly, I think it parallels a 182 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: lot of industries like can you be a pro? And 183 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: being a pro I think means when we said a 184 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: lot in sports, But I think it would carry over 185 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: whether you're in finance, whether you sold, you had car dealerships, whatever, 186 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: things are going to go bad. And when things go bad, 187 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: do you throw a fit, do you act like a 188 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: little baby, or do you just kind of handle it. 189 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: You're allowed to get mad, You're allowed to get frustrated. 190 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: We're all human beings. No one's gonna hold that against you. 191 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: But every time we looked up Mac Jones was freaking 192 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: out like he was Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees or Paid Manning. 193 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: It's like, bro, you're in your second year, you haven't 194 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: proven anything. You were lucky to be the fifteenth overall pick. 195 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Let's just try to handle it see a little bit better. 196 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: So I understand Belichick being a little down on the 197 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: guy because part of mac Jones. If you were gonna 198 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: like mac Jones and be in the business of drafting 199 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: him and make him your starting quarterback, he was gonna 200 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: have to hang his hat on several things. He was 201 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to be like the best game manager in 202 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: the league. His accuracy was gonna have to be elite. 203 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: And a huge reason for drafting him was like the 204 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: character right, super focused, super locked in comes from Bama, 205 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: like thinking what you get with Jalen hurts like a 206 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: guy that's just no nonsense, not messing around. That's not 207 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: really what they've gotten. And let's face it, when you 208 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: watched him last year and you watch Bailey Zappy, I 209 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't see a difference. Albert Breer wrote 210 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: in a mailbag writing about the situation that coaches on 211 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: the staff didn't think the gap was that different. So listen, 212 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: you could knock me for some of my takes on 213 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott last year with Cooper Rush, because I didn't 214 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: think the gap in talent was that different, And I ultimately, like, 215 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't think DA's talent is that immense relative to 216 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: the top guys in the league. I mean relative to 217 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: most of people that play quarterback, of course, but relative 218 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: to the top like ten guys in the NFL. He's 219 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: not as talented as a lot of those guys. He's 220 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: simply just not. His arm is just average. But the 221 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: one thing Dak brings to the table is ultra focus, 222 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: ultra being a pro, ultramaturity. Just he's elite in all 223 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: the intangible characteristics. And if mac Jones was ever gonna peak, 224 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: because ultimately his peak is somewhere between like ten and 225 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: fifteen in the NFL, which you can be competitive with, 226 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: like we're seeing with Dak Prescott, we've seen with Cousins, 227 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: with the Vikings. It's got to be the intangible stuff. 228 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: And I think for the first time we're like, what 229 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: the hell is this with mac Jones? And we know 230 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Belichick does not play with that type stuff. So I 231 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: think they were going to trade him. Who's trading for him? 232 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: He just drafted him fifteenth. What could they get for 233 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: him third round pick at best, So it doesn't necessarily 234 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: make sense to trade him. But clearly there's a a 235 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: schism there there is. They're not on the same page. 236 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't think Bill's that high on him, and I 237 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: don't think Max that high on the Patriots. So kind 238 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: of feels like a little bit of a maker break year. 239 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: And again I don't believe that Belichick could win seven 240 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: or eight games. He quote unquote like deserves to get fired. 241 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys in the NFL who 242 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: have accomplished I mean, a hundredth of what he has 243 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: and have job security. But like, there does come a time, 244 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, when things just kind of run its course, 245 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: and it does feel like in this year, this kind 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: of rocky. You look at the AFC. If he gets 247 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: ten or eleven wins, like, of course he's not going anywhere. 248 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: But if this season goes a little bit like last year, 249 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: which is somewhat hard to see given that they have 250 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: a credible offensive coordinator, now, I don't know. I think 251 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I think the Pats are a fascinating watch this uh 252 00:13:53,440 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: come this fall. I read an article Bigger Reader on 253 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: the Athletic. I forget who wrote it, sorry, but you 254 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: can find it on the Athletic, and it's basically a 255 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: deep dive into how the trade between the Bears and 256 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: the Panthers came to fruition. And obviously, once the Bears 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: got the number one overall pick, they decided the best 258 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: thing for the franchise was to trade back after just 259 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of going through some different scenarios. And one thing 260 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Poles did is he reached out to the Blackhawks 261 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: general manager, not a big hockey guy, but if it's 262 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: the same guy that was the GM for some of 263 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: those titles, obviously you know, done a pretty good job. 264 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: And one thing he was going to be adamant and 265 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: doing with the trade was they wanted a player as 266 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: well as draft picks. And then the first team to 267 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: ultimately reach out to the Bears was the Carolina Panthers. 268 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: So they immediately start talking and basically Poles told them 269 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: that we're gonna need picks, clearly for you to go 270 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: from one to nine, but also we're gonna need one 271 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: of three players. We're gonna need either Burns the pass rusher, 272 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Brown the interior defensive tackle, or DJ Moore. And on 273 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panther side, and I give them credit for 274 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: this because I think DJ Moore's a stud, but they 275 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: came to the conclusion and they based on this article 276 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: and based on everything I've read and heard of, like 277 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: they really are high on DJ Moore. How could they 278 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: not be big time player? They decided to keep like 279 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the only guy they were going to make available of 280 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: that group was going to be the wide receiver. Because one, 281 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: it's very very difficult to find sweet pass rushers. It's 282 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: very very difficult to find high end inside defensive linemen. 283 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: So while DJ Moore sure looks like a high end, 284 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, top tennish receiver in the league, they are 285 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: more replaceable than the defensive lineman. So they made the trade. 286 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times when these trades happen, 287 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: we just go and I know this, I've seen it 288 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: with Trey Lance. You could have had this pick, this player, 289 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: and this player. And it's like in theory, if things 290 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: were just buyingary black and white, that would be true. 291 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: But there is an extra variable to a trade like 292 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: this that we never talk about. And I've seen it 293 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: on the flip side with the Niners, because ultimately that 294 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: pick they could have had Michael Parsons, they could have 295 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: had traded for Bradley Chubb. You know, it ultimately led 296 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: to Tyree Hill in a weird way. It led to 297 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: all these other players, some of them being veteran players, obviously, 298 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: some of them being draft picks. But one thing making 299 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,359 Speaker 1: that trade allows you to do. And whoever the Carolina 300 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Panthers pick, and it felt like CJ. Strout now kind 301 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: of feels like Bryce Young and I wonder if there's 302 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: still a curveball in there with Anthony Richardson. But you know, 303 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: let's say they take Bryce Shung and you go, well, 304 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: you just traded multiple first round picks and DJ Moore 305 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: for Bryce Young. Well that amount having a quarterback now 306 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: under a five year contract right four years guaranteed and 307 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: then the fifth year option gives you a lot of 308 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: wiggle room with cap space. And the forty nine ers 309 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: who have no veteran quarterbacks right now, just tray Lance 310 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: brock Purty. Even the last year, Jimmy Garoppolo came back 311 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: for six million dollars because they haven't been allocating any 312 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: money in Despite missing all their picks, they were able 313 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: to sign char Various Ward, who was easily their best 314 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: corner and was one of the better corners in the 315 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: NFL last year, and this offseason signed Hardgrave. So the 316 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Bears who were able to trade for DJ Moore easily, 317 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: and they have a ton of cap space. Why because 318 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: they have a rookie quarterback and they're another team that 319 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: traded an extra first round pick to get up and 320 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: get Justin Fields. Now, the Panthers, over these next several years, 321 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: while they are not going to have draft picks, especially 322 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: high end draft picks, they are going to have extra 323 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: cap space because they're no longer not that they necessarily were, 324 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: but even last year they were playing two fifth year 325 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: options with Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold. I guess Cleveland 326 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: ate some of the fifth year options, But they're gonna 327 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: have a very very cheap quarterback who's gonna start making 328 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: like when the season starts next year, eight million dollars 329 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: and by the end of the deal it will be 330 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: like eleven million dollars. But relative to some of these 331 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: cap hits well over forty that's a thirty thirty five 332 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: million dollars difference, So they're going to be able to 333 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: allocate it in signing players that a lot of other teams, 334 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: especially competitive teams, aren't going to have the room to sign. 335 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: And think about it on the flip side, when a 336 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: guy like Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson gets traded or 337 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: the team that trades for them, they trade a bunch 338 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: of picks, but then they also double down because they 339 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: give these enormous contracts. So not only do teams like 340 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: the Browns and the Broncos not have any picks because 341 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: they've traded for the quarterback, their cap space has limitations 342 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: because they're paying a quarterback forty thirty eight whatever the 343 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: cap hit on a given year is, it's enormous, so 344 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: you better get that right. That's why there's so much 345 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: pressure on Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson to play at 346 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl level. I've allocated all my resources to 347 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: acquire you, and then I've allocated a bunch of cap 348 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: space to pay you. Right, It's why when you trade 349 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: for Jalen Ramsey and then he's immediately a pro bowler, 350 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: it costs a lot because you've got a double dip. Right, 351 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: I gotta give you first round picks, and I gotta 352 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: pay the guy. But when he plays at a high level, 353 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: it's like I can stomach it. Last year the Miami Dolphins, 354 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: you give up on one and two, Well, I get 355 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: arguably the best receiver in the league. Raid or same 356 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: thing Davante Adams. Well, he plays like an elite player. 357 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: So I can't really complain. It's not an ideal way 358 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: to do business. But if I'm going to do that, 359 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: give the picks for a veteran player and then pay 360 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: the veteran player, he better be elite. And most of 361 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: the trades in recent memory, right, Tyreek, Davante, even Stafford 362 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: two years ago, they trade for him, wins it, but 363 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: then they pay him and now he's injured. So it's 364 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: a problem. And that's what I think makes these rookie 365 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: quarterback contracts just unique. You can really take advantage of 366 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: it if you hit on the right veteran players you 367 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: know throughout the league. There's a former executive I'm fired 368 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: up on this story with the Arizona Cardinals, a long 369 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: time basically assistant GM to Steve Kim who is currently 370 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: stewing the Arizona Cardinals for basically cheating breaking rules. And 371 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily like my spidy sense went on when 372 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I saw this story break, because I don't necessarily think 373 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: it's random. And once that the NFL gets Dan Snyder 374 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: removed from the NFL and gets that franchise sold, I 375 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: think they're going to zero in on two teams, the 376 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and Las Vegas Raiders. And I think these 377 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: two areas are going to be the greatest beneficiary over 378 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: the next twenty years. I've been saying on this podcast 379 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: for a while, if you could buy stock in Scottsdale 380 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: and Vegas from a business standpoint for the next couple decades, 381 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: I'd go all in. I'm board and raised in California, 382 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: and my life's going well, my income flows keeps growing. 383 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: People like me, my family's all there, a lot of friends, 384 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: are there in the history of the state. Never leave, 385 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: And honestly, I couldn't. I can't say this strongly enough. 386 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: Leaving it's not only the best thing I've ever done. 387 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: I actually regret not leaving sooner and I think forever. 388 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: One thing the California economy. And listen, my dad was 389 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: a farmer. My brother's now a farming farmer. Farming is 390 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: a huge part of the California economy right are The 391 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: farm community alone economically is bigger than like the majority 392 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: of the states in America, given them the amount of 393 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: money that they generate. And obviously another huge you know 394 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: factor in the state of California is Silicon Valley and 395 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: techs and startups. Well, it is so expensive. It's one 396 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: thing back in two thousand and two or two thousand 397 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: and four, still expensive, but relative to the other neighboring 398 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: states that are now pro business inviting these people to come. 399 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: If I was a company, I would never start in 400 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: northern California in twenty twenty three. It's so much more 401 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: cost effective to go to Vegas to come to Arizona. 402 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: And that's currently happening. My brother, I was bullshitting with 403 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: him within the last month and he was telling me 404 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: about obviously through their company in the farming world, meet 405 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of different insurance people, and one of 406 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: the insurance companies said, we're just leaving California. We spend 407 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: so much money, we lose all of our claims. It 408 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: just doesn't pencil anymore. It's not worth it. And I'm 409 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: not one to act like the amount of money in 410 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: California is just stupid and this notion, and I think 411 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot of you that don't live there, if you 412 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: just read on the internet, is just crumbling. The guy 413 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: that kind of runs now my property manager for my condo, 414 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: is also the guy that sold me my condo. He's 415 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: a real estate agent. He's like, you know, I just 416 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: had a property. It was listed for two million dollars 417 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: and within less in a week we got two five. 418 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: So now, granted it was about around Saint Mary's in 419 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: the suburbs of the East Bay, but the point is 420 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: like it's not quite crumbled yet, but in terms of 421 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: the potential of where things are going, these startups are 422 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: not going to start there anymore because it makes no sense. 423 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: So if me or you, if we had a company 424 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: or an idea, we couldn't afford to do it there. 425 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: We would go to Nevada and we would go to Arizona. 426 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: I see it in Scottsdale. It's already booming, So what's 427 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: that going to be like in ten twenty years. I 428 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: was telling my girlfriend when we went to the Dodger game, 429 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: and the Dodger Spring training facility is right across the 430 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: street basically from State Farm, where the Arizona Cardinals play 431 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: and where they hold Super Bowls, kind of in the 432 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. From where I'm sitting right now, it's 433 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: like forty minutes away, And I'm like, you know, the 434 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: one thing Glendale kind of reminds me of, And they 435 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: just had several major companies moved there. It reminds me 436 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: of Sack Memento, like twenty five years ago. There is 437 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: so much room for growth. I'd probably bet on this 438 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: area Glendale, because I mean, even Scottsdale is so expensive 439 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: to be like, so everyone's moving to the outskirts. And 440 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: I think the NFL, clearly they're not dumb. They know this, 441 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: Like they already got California on Locke right. The forty 442 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: nine ers own northern California, and southern California is just 443 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: taken care of with the stadium, the teams, and just 444 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: the rotation of teams that come in there now to play. 445 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: But the Raiders and the Cardinals are just not living 446 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: up to what they should be in their ownership. Like 447 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell's a clown. Do you see that NFL PA 448 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: survey that said that he charged his players to take 449 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: dinner home? You know, low level that is. We know 450 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: Mark Davis from a cash standpoint would not be their 451 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: first choice. Right if they could choose, like would they 452 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: want Mark Davis to own the team or not own 453 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: the team? I think they would gladly choose not own 454 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: the team. And unlike Oakland, which where they used to 455 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: play was just a complete dump where their facility was 456 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: was kind of a joke by the Oakland Airport, what 457 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: they got going on now is fucking awesome. Anyone that's 458 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: been to Vegas the last couple of years seeing that stadium, 459 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: it's badass. There's no state income tax. The Phoenix Suns 460 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: just sold for four billion dollars. What the air's on 461 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: a Cardinal sell for seven eight? What would the Vegas 462 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: Raiders sell for with that stadium, with the facility which 463 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: even Belichick's been like, it's the greatest thing I've ever seen. 464 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Seven eight. So the league and listen, this is not easy. 465 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: You can't just kick someone out for not doing anything wrong. 466 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: But I think the league's kind of circle in Mike Bidwell, 467 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: and it felt like they've been circling a little bit 468 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: Mark Davis for a while. So it's just something to 469 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. There's a theory of mine. There's 470 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: just too much these two areas, Vegas and Scottsdale, in 471 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: just the general you know area Arizona. It's just a 472 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: rocket ship of cash what it was to northern California 473 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles over the last twenty years. So the 474 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: league knows this, and they have two of the owners 475 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that would probably be their first picks to boot out. 476 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: So just keep an eye whenever these stories come out, 477 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: they're coming out for a reason. Okay, a couple other 478 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: quick NFL nuggets. I always like when a young player 479 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: in like the prime of his career is just kicking 480 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: ass and kicking names, like, you know, just a couple 481 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: more years than I'm gonna retire, you know. Tyreek Hill 482 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: said on a podcast that he would retire after the 483 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: two two and twenty five season. I don't put much 484 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, merit when younger star players say things like this, 485 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: not that he hasn't said he's you know, to his 486 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: friends or behind the scenes, like I'm not gonna play forever, 487 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: but like, it's pretty hard to stop doing something if 488 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: you're still kicking ass and you're still making you know, 489 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: enormous amounts of money. So if Tyreek Hill is still 490 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: really good in twenty twenty five, which basically over the 491 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: last five years he shown zero slowing down, I would 492 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: not expect him to just randomly retire, right if you're 493 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: still really good at football, most guys continue to play 494 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: cool SoundBite headline that is still technically three seasons away. 495 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: But I know this. I think Tyreek is on a 496 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: short list of most unique players we've ever seen in 497 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's just he's just an elite Hall of 498 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: Fame player, Hall of Fame production, elite player who's had 499 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: success at the highest level, who's dominated at the highest level. 500 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: You continue to do that. He's a winning player. People 501 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: are willing to pay you a lot of money. So 502 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I would pump the brakes. Did put this like in 503 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: sharpie one thing, And I think we talked about it 504 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, and anyone that just is on 505 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: the internet sees the Raiders are doing a lot of 506 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: work on quarterbacks. Man, they've brought every guy in. I 507 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: would imagine they've worked him out. They are doing their 508 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: due diligence on this. I would imagine there's a chance 509 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: if one of the guys they really like is there 510 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: at three, they would trade up from number seven with 511 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. And the Arizona Cardinals need a lot 512 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, to me, they are by no means stuck 513 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: at number three because there is some generational position player there. 514 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: There's not The best player in this draft by a 515 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: wide margin, is awful lot of draft boards. I'm a 516 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: big Will Anderson guy, but you know, I think you 517 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: talked to people in the league. His ceilings probably a 518 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: little lower than maybe the hype. Now. I still think 519 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good NFL player, But I don't 520 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: think Quordeal We're not I mean, he's not you know, 521 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, nick Bosa, He's not in that 522 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: vein right, really good player, solid. I think he's gonna 523 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: be a long time starter and a winning player, but 524 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever gonna be some elite 525 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: all pro I just think he's really solid, really good guy, 526 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: and you want him on your team. But you know, 527 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: I'd rather get him at probably eight or nine than three, 528 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: because when you draft really high, you like to get 529 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: all pro level players. Now we could argue maybe there's 530 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: not that many all pro level players. Like I've been saying, 531 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: from everything I've been told, this is the worst draft. 532 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean in five years is gonna be the 533 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: worst draft ever, right, because that's not the way it works. 534 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: We always go, oh, this is the greatest quarterback draft ever, 535 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: and then you look, you're like, well, three of the 536 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: five quarterbacks aren't even starting quarterbacks three years later, so 537 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: things change. But going into this draft based on their 538 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: college film, I don't think this this draft is viewed 539 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: as great by any means. It's not, so you just 540 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: got to be I think this is a year about 541 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: accumulating picks and trying to get to next year, and 542 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a lot of teams 543 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: attempt to do that. And one thing I've heard the 544 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: reason for that, and I think we've mentioned it on 545 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: this pod, is that it's because of the COVID year. 546 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the elite players already left, 547 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: and some of the guys that are now in this 548 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: draft are guys that are actually like fifth and six 549 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: year guys because they just stayed around because they got 550 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: extra time. So it's diluted, and next year it'll get 551 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: back on path. It all has to do with twenty 552 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: twenty and two twenty one and kind of the ripple 553 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: effect and the domino effect of why we're here, but 554 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, will eventually be pasted it, which we will, 555 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: I think in next year, which is viewed as a 556 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: much more talented group of players. But I got I 557 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: got my attendance up on the Raiders. You know, I 558 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: would keep an eye on them come draft time to 559 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: make a move for a quarterback, especially a guy that 560 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have to play right away, because you got Jimmy Garoppolo. 561 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: And then I think they signed Brian Hoyer, but that 562 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: might have been to coach. It's hard to keep up 563 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels, maybe Danny Amandolas the coach, and Hoyer's 564 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: the backup, so last but not least, I think this 565 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: guy got a lot of shit his last several years 566 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: running the Broncos, and rightfully so that they were struggling, 567 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: But I also think it almost diminishes and undermines how 568 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: awesome he was would during the Peyton Manning era. Like 569 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: obviously landing Peyton Manning, John Elway deserves a lot of 570 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: credit for that because remember Manning was flying to the Titans, 571 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: he was meeting with Jim Harball, like every team in 572 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: the league wanted him that needed a quarterback. There were 573 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: teams that kept it under wraps. They were really interested 574 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: in Manning and John Elway kind of had his Lebron 575 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: pat Riley moment where quarterback to quarterback. Remember pat Riley 576 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: showed Lebron the rings and got it done. But a 577 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: huge reason Peyton Manning went to the Broncos and had 578 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of success. That team was loaded. Remember Elway's 579 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: the guy that drafted Vaughan Miller, Derek Wolfe, Trevathan, Brandon 580 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Marshall I think was an undrafted free agent or a 581 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: late round pick. Bradley Roby, who was a starter, signed 582 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: a keep to leap, got an undrafted free agent. You 583 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: get credit for that. Chris Harris, TJ. Ward signed, DeMarcus 584 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Ware signed. Remember Old over the Hill, not for the Broncos. 585 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: Julius Thomas, Demarrius Thomas, C J. Anderson like their offense, 586 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: signed Emmanuel Sanders, if you remember, was gonna go to 587 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and like backed out and went to the Broncos. 588 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought it was kind of shady, 589 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: but Elway built and I saw that team back to 590 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: back years live, the Super Bowl team, the team previously 591 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: they got knocked out. I thought they were. Defensively, it's 592 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: got to be one of the fastest defenses of the 593 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: last decade or two s defense. You know, we could 594 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: argue that Seattle probably a little bit better, maybe the 595 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Ravens back in the day a little bit better, but 596 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: top to bottom speed, I think that's it's the fastest 597 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: defense I've ever seen live. I don't know if the 598 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: I think Seattle was a better defense. I don't think 599 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: they were as fast as that grew. Probably they were 600 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: more physical and Denver was physical. But this team, everyone 601 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: acted like, oh, oh wait, you can't find a quarterback, 602 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: and he couldn't. Once Peyton retired, they fell apart and 603 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: he hired Vance Joseph and he hired Vic Fangioe. It 604 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: did not go well. His lows were low, but their 605 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: highs were pretty damn high, and he deserved a lot 606 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: of credit for a lot of those draft picks that 607 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: turned into really really good players, impact Pro Bowler, second contract. 608 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: Just obviously, von Miller's a Hall of Famer, but a 609 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: lot of other guys who were just every other team 610 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: in the league wouldn't hesitate to add to their team 611 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: if they could. And John Elway, now his probably career 612 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL, being involved with teams he's not gonna 613 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: work for another team, is over pretty unique career. Right, 614 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: One of the greatest players of all time and then 615 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: went on to win a Super Bowl as a general manager? 616 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: How many how many people could say that in sports? Right, 617 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the history of his 618 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: sport and then a Super Bowl winning general manager Matgic 619 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: Johnson couldn't do it like Ozzie Newsom. It doesn't happen 620 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: that often, Right, It'd be like if theo Epstein was 621 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: also Alex Rodriguez as a player. It's very Now he's 622 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: a little unique because he won multiple places, but you 623 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's it's very, very difficult to do. 624 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: Doing either one is very hard, right, Being a great 625 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: GM is very very hard. There's a small percentage of 626 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: guys that we view as good, and obviously being a 627 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: top five quarterback ever is the hardest thing possible. So 628 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: he accomplished that, went to five Super Bowls. And then 629 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: the other thing is like they didn't lose in Super Bowl, 630 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: went to multiple super Bowls. Facing Peyton in the one 631 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: game against the Ravens did not play well that that 632 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: team was really good. Peyton kind of blew that one 633 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: for Alway. He also, if you remember that offseason when 634 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: Peyton we didn't know yet but had fallen off a cliff, 635 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: Elway made him take a pay cut. Proved to be 636 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. Appreciate everyone listening, Enjoy the Masters, have a 637 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: great weekend. Talk to everyone soon. Audios. The volume