WEBVTT - #448 - Thanasis Antetokounmpo 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.280 Hey, we're about to kick off another interview brought to 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:03.280 you by Hardan. 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:04.000 That's right. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.160 If you're in Vegas, it's the number one dispensary in 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.720 the country, the craziest selection of premium cannabis. And all 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.520 you gotta do is shoot them a follow Hard Dean 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.360 Underscore Las Vegas, Hardean Lasvegas dot com. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.640 When you're in Vegas, tell them I sent you. Let's 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:20.599 get into the interview. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.960 Hey, what's up, guys? Then that's checking me out. Boutleg 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:51.800 v podcast. So you got soon boutleg cav podcast. Special 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:52.360 guest here. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.440 Basketball World Team, the Nazi Antetupo is in the building. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.000 NBA champion yo. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.440 Yeah, but all I like when they say down in h. 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.520 A expense of my Phoenix sons. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.360 No, no, no, no, I feel bad. Don't feel bad, 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.760 But don't feel bad. You guys deserve to win. Your 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.720 brother put on a four. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.600 Game stretch that was just like what are we supposed 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.760 to do? Like once he put up fifty, it's like, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.160 what are we supposed to do? 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.600 Like you know what you had COVID? Right? Yeah? No 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.160 I didn't. That was a crazy part. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.440 But you were just like quarantined. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.120 You remember it? Was the time that you would go 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.399 with fall false positive and they were just like, oh. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.280 Yes, it was like no matter what, even if it 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:33.319 seemed like yeah, it. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.560 Was a lot of people came up, Oh yeah, you 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.160 didn't even have COVID No, because what happened was that 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.160 everybody was false positive. Don't want to risk anything and 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.280 uh but this was this was halfway into the finals. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.280 This happened like five and you know what this happened 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.880 right because if you guys, you guess Phoenix was open, Yeah, 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.120 never closed. It was closed, and nobody Phoenix was active. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.200 Scottsdale was cracking, the club was cracking, everybody was out. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.520 No, it was just just people in and out the 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.760 hotel to like resorts and stuff like that. So we 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.680 did have that coverage. But like if I even say anything, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.200 thank you so much for having in the Podcorse. Uh 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.160 just started doing my own podcast and now just being. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.440 Here how you analysis. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.320 Yeah, yeah, so you know, I started doing that, so 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.040 I'm you know, I'm trying to grow that as well. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.760 I love like, I love you, learning from people, learning 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:24.919 from the culture and just being here, Like I don't 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.280 want to I want to ask some stuff to it, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.120 but for sure yeah, you gotta. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:29.840 I've seen you know, you have some big guests on 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.600 your ship too, Yes, steven a pop out. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.280 Yeah I did. I did those. It was crazy. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:39.080 Interview, dragic shout to Tragic almost Phoenix Suns great. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:45.600 Yeah, great player, great individual, great vet like yeah, you know, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.800 and and obviously trying to think he came to the 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.640 first season that I was. I was just doing it 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.680 just for the course, like how it wasn't even close 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.360 to like just making the podcast. It was just like 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.639 I was just having people and interviews at the time 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.840 the first season. Second season, I started going bigger and bigger, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.680 but like you know, back to the to the finals 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:09.640 and stuff like that, we didn't have no whatsoever communication 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:11.480 with the outside world. Bro, we do. I don't know 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.280 if you remember the first time we had fans when 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.480 we played Game four in Miami. That's when they like 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.200 fans were like, okay, we're gonna have fans. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.639 Because I remember people weren't sure, Like if I remember 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.640 as a Suns fan, I think it was the first series. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.079 Yeah, first Game three for. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.160 Us, Yeah, and we were like, oh, ship, we can 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:28.679 go to the game. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:29.320 This is different. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.519 It's so crazy because that whole pandemic ariages is all 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.640 blurred together. But that was the first, like the playoffs 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:36.760 were the first time fans were back. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.040 Yes, yes it was. It was crazy for us. We 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.080 kind of felt cheated as well, like it was like, dang, 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:42.880 we play two games no fans and we go to 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:47.200 Miami and Miami's packed. Florida was open to yeah, but 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.760 look at one. But still yeah, we won. But like 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.480 it was, and then we came back we saw, you know, 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.200 and then we go back and if you think about it, 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.840 we played game three, Game four. It was a sweet 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.040 for zero sweet and then we go to New York 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.840 the books playing two more games away. That was a 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:06.440 crazy series, crazy bro crazy, I told, I told god, 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.480 I'm talking to tell the stories. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.680 Is that the series where Katie's toe was on the line. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.200 Oh my god, see it all. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.120 Blurs together, Yeah, it is. And they played before that, 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.719 like Brooke Loves was supposed to shoot the ball and 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.400 they shoot it and they and they got the ball. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.839 But like, but people don't talk about, like it wasn't 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:27.400 the game that Katie went crazy. Was Game five? Yes, 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.320 it was Game five, because Game five we went to 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.800 and we went two at home at Game five we'll 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.400 go back to Brooklyn and we're out by eighteen points. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.440 So we're like, okay, such a chance. Oh my god, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.600 might gave five. We get five and away we lose 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.279 the six. You know, Like that was the feeling. And 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.840 then that's when Katie became like I don't even know, no, no, 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.280 k He's always been giving it up, but like yes 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.560 and had this like forty eight yea, like seventeen and 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.039 like twelve like something, and he was you know, by himself, 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.320 and it was so unfortunately We're like, oh my god, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.680 who got to win game six? Win Game six? And 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.440 then all follow the marbles was they say, like game 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.000 seven in Brooklyn. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:09.880 But like that damn toe. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.640 Yeah. But people so the whole throughout the whole cities 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.160 that like playoff run. It was this thing with you know, 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.120 Jonathan's frietos, like the count trust me. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.840 I was in the crowd counting what two. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:31.200 I was counting. I was counting loud, you know, and 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.400 it was this thing. So I'm like, okay, it's game seven. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.600 I'm like, I've never been in a bigger game as 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.760 a as an individual, as a family, like this is 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.800 like we're playing against James Harden Kyti crazy and KD. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.280 Now like this is game seven. We know we didn't 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.320 actually to get off at that. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.320 Game, right if you, if you really whoever would have 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.240 won that series probably would have beat the Suns either way. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.680 Probably I don't know. I don't know for sure, but 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.200 we could they say that. But the thing was like, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.560 I'll tell you what. The Hawks were beating us. Good 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.839 to you, I thank you. They had a good like run. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.800 And we're about to go to the game and I'm like, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.080 you know what this is like two days before now, yeah, okay, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:20.239 we're gonna play in New York. Mind you in New York Greece. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.520 It's like I'm playing back and like we're in Greece, right, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.440 So I put this. I got this friend of mine 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.480 side out to James stoodies with the with the community. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:30.320 So he goes like, oh, we want to come to 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.320 the game, but like we can't find tickets. And I 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.200 was like, okay, this is what we're gonna do. You're 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.520 gonna go and shoot geek? Was he see geek? And 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.480 the second half that we shoot from here, when you're 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.440 in suit sweets, you're gonna buy the whole the whole 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.960 like section. So I bought like one, two, three, four, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.600 five about the whole section, just me, and you're gonna 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:58.160 give them the tickets like sixty fifty off. And then 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.720 we did like a thing. I think I remember, like, uh, 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:03.760 we did like a lot, not that we do like 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.320 a memo to everybody. And then I said, the only 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.160 request I have. I don't want no money, I don't 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.560 want nothing, is that I want everybody to be there 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.119 six thirty. The game was like eight. I want everybody 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:14.360 six thirty. Once they opened the gate. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.520 I want everybody to Bucks fans only, no no, no 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.880 Bucks fans and Greeks, Bucks fans and Greeks only. Ain't 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.440 no countdown happening, not behind the basket. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.520 And I remember you can check the videos too, like 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.720 I can get him out six thirty. And I remember 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.320 it was James. Everybody they looked up. They were like, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.480 what's going on? And the whole security they wanted they 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.360 wanted to kick him out. They were going crazy with 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.680 the Greek flags and everything. And I told him, I 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.720 was like, you know how then I kind of got 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.000 the invoys after and I told him I was like, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.800 I don't care. I said to my financial I was like, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.120 I don't care book a receipt. He's like, okay, but 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.200 what if they don't show up. I was like, it's empty. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.680 The worst case would be empty empty, nobody gonna be there. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.160 They ended up showing everybody. I ended up getting some 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.080 money back as well, because I gave everybody on fifteen 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.680 percent off that game seven wined. I'm winning and for 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.640 the first time that Yiannis never you know, he never 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.440 he never shows emotion. Like he was like, yeah, it 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.840 was going to the crowd. It was like yes, And 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.040 I was like, that's going to be a thirty for 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:09.240 thirty story for sure. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.360 Wait, so so you said to yourself, Okay, I know 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:13.640 this countdown things happening. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.360 Yeah, it's New York. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:16.240 It's going to be crazy. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:16.600 Yeah. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.040 New York fans are ruckus as hell. They're they're also 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.960 very very ruthless. You're like, hey, let's buy out all 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.200 the seats and put our people there. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.760 And was it the second half or the first half? 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:29.920 So it was the second half. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:31.320 So you were like, because because at the end of 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:32.920 the day, what's going to matter is the second half. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.880 So when shit actually matters, he's looking at his people 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:37.320 behind him. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.920 Yeah, But the thing is he didn't know, nobody knew. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.120 So everybody, yes, nobody knew to the after the game 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.439 and everybody was like, man, it was he was like 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.240 four thousand, it was three thousand greeks, I what was 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.719 going like? And and then I told him it was like, look, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.800 this is what happened and like, but but the plot 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.600 that was the intriguing is that was that the only 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.079 thing I thought about was that game. I thought like, man, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.920 if we win this game, he's gonna We're going to 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.920 be the commanded. He like, if we win this game, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.559 we'll go to that study like we're playing against Katie. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.640 Kydi super team of all super teams. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.959 Yeah, however you want to say, yeah, however you want 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.120 to call it a great, great, great team that I 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:16.360 don't know if you're ever going to say a team 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.520 like that, right. So in my head, I'm like, dang, 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.839 we win this game, win this game, and we won, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.760 and then everything else became day by day, I swear 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.760 to God, everything else like when we want it was like, oh, ship, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.240 we just won, and now we're waitning for Philly, right 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:35.440 mind you? And then Atlanta wins Andanta wins, We're like, oh, okay, okay, 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.680 guess what happened Game one won Ito Atlanta. They throwing 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.560 the ball off there and then Janni's got hurt, right 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.719 and it gets hurt and we're like ah. But then, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:46.560 you know, I. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.400 Remember thinking when he got hurt, I was like, well, shit, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:49.400 we're winning a chip. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:51.640 Hey. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.400 And then he came back like came like the Undertaker 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:56.000 and wrestling. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:56.600 He was just like. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.959 I own your soul. DeAndre Ayden, Oh my god, and 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.720 mind you like he he's you know, like like obviously 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.240 I'm my brother and stuff like that. But take away 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.599 like him being my teammate or brother. Yeah, like the 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.200 war gifting and what he did those those like week 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:16.800 two weeks. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.559 And there was the game where he made all the 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:19.800 free throws he had over fifty. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.079 What was that? Which game was that? 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:22.080 Was that Game five or six? 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.480 That was Game six in Milwaukee. Yeah, they made it 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.199 me free throw. So when I was game planning, you 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.599 know that right, that was you guys. Game plan just 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.199 found him and send him to the list and he 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:38.600 makes them all. Yes, shots of Monty Man, great, great coach. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.480 He's killing it in. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.920 Detroit as a as an NBA community, I gotta come 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:43.559 in defend. No. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.760 I love Monty Monty is a great guy and like, honestly, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.080 he changed the culture of our team forever. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.559 He took us to the finals. I'm forever grateful for 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:50.320 the Monty years. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:50.680 Yeah. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.160 Well, what was your brother's reaction when he found out 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.360 that you bought out those tickets? 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.800 His reaction was crazy. He was like, what because you 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.040 know we got like you know, we got this investment 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.839 group group so everything, you know, some of the stuff, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.760 like we always messed together, blah blah blah. And he 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.960 says there it was like, what is this for? I said, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.160 you know, about the season. It's like, but you're crazy. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.600 What are you doing. I'm like, I don't care. It's 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.640 not about the money. It's about like, it's different. This 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.760 is different, bro, Like, it's not about if I told 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.520 guys like hey, for you to feel to win it, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.320 to go through it, run this legitated on and win 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.000 a championship, and you had like you would you know, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.679 you had money, you'd be like, no, I don't care 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:31.959 about the money. I'll give you whatever you want. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.880 How much did you spend if you don't mind sharing, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:39.600 obviously over six figures book the whole section you got 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.240 so maybe like a coast to a million. No, it 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.240 wasn't cost a million, but one hundred thousand it was. Yeah, 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.920 it was all a little bit less, but it was 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:47.480 closed there. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.520 But I got half almost you got almost half back, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.840 which is fine, which is worth because the the feeling 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.640 for me even if I didn't, if I didn't, the 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.120 fact that we won and you ended up getting the ring. Yeah, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.439 and my bones might you might not. You know, the 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.640 bonus for the for the ring now is it's nice. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.400 It's nice, so covered it covered it was. It was 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.160 basically giving a little bit of my bonus back. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.319 So you uh, what happens when the higher ups for 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.800 the bucks find out because I don't think a player's. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:15.959 Ever done that. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.440 Yes, because there's some players worth substantial amount of money 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.800 that in theory could just buy out sections of arenas 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.160 during high stakes games. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:26.719 You know, you know, yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.000 tell you what happened. First of all, you know, shout 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.839 out to fifty cents like like he he said he 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.880 did that in one time when something like that, like 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.160 you could do it if you want, but they're not 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.679 going to do it because people don't care about it. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.200 I love this, I care about it. Like we come 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.719 from a family of champions. Bro. People can say whatever 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.720 they want to say, but like it's not by luck 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.560 that all of us have a championship and be a champion. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.079 It's not by luck that my brother brother he just 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.520 won euro League champions He's won in every level then. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.240 Just he hasn't because he got he was the first 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:58.960 one to get a ring. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.000 Right, first one to get it. In the Lakers, they 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.400 went overseas to France, one of one of the championship 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.840 with them, came back again, went to euro League one 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.480 another year league title and now they they was just 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.160 down to now I heard the EuroLeague. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.719 Just the environment is crazy, crazy because you know those 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.800 are soccer fans, and those soccer fans are psychos, so 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.760 it's like they just become basketball fans too, and then 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.000 like you know, you see some of those soccer games 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:24.240 and you're like I don't even want to go. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.040 You know that it looks dangerous. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.839 Yeah, you know how they become like this so like 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.880 dedicated to the team, Like they go to the games 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.480 at our early age and the kids like getting gat 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:38.679 into this like atmosphere, atmosphere. But you know, so funny though, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.959 I think Lucas said one of the games. She said, like, 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.520 oh my god, the like about Rod gaining rowdy against 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.360 the Celtics, and he said, I played one game against 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:50.240 the A team in euro League against mant Nikos Guesse 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.960 who we played against you. He wants to take how 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.319 it was he was. He was the turn, he was 0:13:58.520 --> 0:13:59.920 eighteen and a half. I think it was a time 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.079 was coming to the NBA and that's the one we 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.360 lost quarter finals that we lost to them and they 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:05.800 went to the finals. Damn. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.040 But but did you did you have like an idea 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.400 because everybody would always talk about it. And I remember 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.839 we had his coach as the son's coach the year 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.640 that he came out. We had coach igoor right, So 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.800 I for sure thought we were drafting Luca. I mean, 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.520 any smart owner would have did that. And then night 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.520 before that, listen, I swear to got my best friend 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.600 can attest to this. The night before the draft, I 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.280 call him up and I said, last night I had 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.320 a nightmare. He's like, what was your nightmare? I was like, dude, 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.120 I fucking I think we're gonna take eight and Doug 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.160 and he was like, nah, bro, He's like no, because 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.600 you gotta understand. I was all in on Luca. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:42.920 I was watching I was watching all. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:43.920 His fucking YouTube highlights. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.640 We have his coach, we have his coach. So I'm like, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.280 oh yeah, we're getting Luca. Like I'm watching all his highlights, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.960 his interviews and ship. I'm like, hell, yes, you're o gay. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:55.640 You know what I'm saying. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.600 Anyway, But did you like playing against him? Like, because 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.560 you know it doesn't always translate, right, the euro style. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.480 I mean it's translating a lot. Actually now it's kind 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:06.920 of you guys are running it right now. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.680 Oh yeah, we think about it. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:14.640 Your brother, yok I mean just talking about non Americans right, Uh, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:16.640 non American players are running the league. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:17.640 It's just it is what it is. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.840 I think the closest I mean, you know, obviously there's Book, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.080 there's Aunt, there's guys. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.120 Like that, but it's really it's embiid, it's your brother, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.200 it's I know. But you still have the you know, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.360 the Lebron's and the Steph Caties and the no no 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.240 for sure, these guys about the new Oh okay, I'm 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.280 talking about like you know, the guys are gonna be 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.600 around for another ten years. Yeah, but knocking wood for everybody, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.160 all these guys. Uh, the thing is about your opinion 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.800 basketball about Luca you asked me before. The thing with 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.440 Luca is that you can understand from a young age 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.760 that he was fearless. Like the way he played basketball. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.440 He wasn't a fan of nobody, right. Uh, that's one second. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.520 So talented from anywhere, just like just make reads and 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.720 the recording. He's just strong. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.400 He became strong now because he just looks like a 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:07.080 like a dad want somebody down. But I'm saying he 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.880 looks he got like a dad, bob, but he'd just 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.200 be walking motherfuckers down. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.600 And I'm just like he loves that mid day post. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.440 And you know who obviously you know the closest thing 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.000 to him, and this is the the due compares to 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.640 everybody gives it to James Harden because like, obviously he doesn't. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.720 I don't think he shoots in the same clip Jim's 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.440 Harden used to shoot when he was with Houston or 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.880 the teams. But like that was the closest because. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.440 Very similar, very similar games, very similar games, and like 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.640 great distributors are great passes, great vision. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.120 Okay, so I want to get back to this. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.960 So obviously you guys go on and play the Hawks, 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.240 you win despite your brother getting hurt. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.320 Yeah, out the Bobby Porters and brook lope Is going 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.280 off and and Chris Millerton going I. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.600 Think it was game like no, I remember that game, No, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.280 you're honest, and they went in and yo, Bobby Portis 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.200 with those crazy Bobby Portters eyes was going, Bro. 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.960 Why do people keep talking about his eyes? Got crazy eyes? 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.680 You know, Bobby Portters is the kind of guy that 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.200 if we got into a fight and you saw he 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.160 was on the other side and the other crew, you'd 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.440 be like, nah, man, we got a chill. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.560 Like look at that dude's eyes. He's crazy. But you're 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.040 definitely gonna say that. But I don't think it's because 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.879 of ours. He's just he just he killed. I mean, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.200 he was a beast when he was at the Bulls. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.280 Bobby port has been a dog. But he's a dog though. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.680 He's a great guy, great guy dog. I've never seen 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.399 somebody like walk so much and like like out uh 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.960 out play what they talk about you Like, people used to, 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.800 you know, people counting him out like he went sure 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.280 your people. People used to say, like he's a back kid. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.280 This that like this guy is a great guy. At 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.760 the great professional came back. He's being a pillar for Milwaukee. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.720 He's a pillar for sure for Milwaukee and all these things. 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.280 But now you see like what the natative is that 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.760 is before, not now, but like it used to be. Okay, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.520 he got in a fight, and even that fight, I 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.199 don't want to talk and I'm not here to talk 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.560 about somebody else fight. He wasn't his fault, right. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.639 Yeah, Okay, so you guys end up playing the Suns. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.119 First of all, when you saw you were going against 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:06.040 the Suns, was what were what were your guys' thoughts 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.080 about just the matchup in general? Did you like it 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:09.960 or were you like this is going to be because 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.400 you know, I feel like it was. It was one 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.119 series where you were like, okay, well you could have 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.240 made the argument that either team matchup well against ye. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.280 Yeah, so I don't think we liked it. I mean, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.840 I'm not saying like we went in and it was like, oh, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.200 we liked it, but it wasn't bothered either way. Like 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.800 we went down to oh and was I remember, I 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.840 was exciting, So yeah, we went down to oh and 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.320 I don't remember this. I don't know if you remember 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.399 this interview, Like Chris and drew like being nonchalant on 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.200 the podium, like saying, oh okay, and people screensh out 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.480 that that was like, oh, the bucks are done and 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.480 they're cooked, and like, guys, it doesn't work that way, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.720 Like it's basketball. I got to do my job and 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.440 everything has to click. It doesn't if if it just 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.639 if it was just one guy, we'd be like running 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:55.959 school like a sprinting, like sprinting. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.880 And they say a series doesn't start until the home 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:00.840 team loses a game. 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.960 Yeah, yeah, And you know the reason I say that 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.280 is because then it becomes more pressure and more like 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.119 and then the boy he was supposed to win at home, 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.479 he was supposed to you know, they did their job. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.600 We got to do our job come back. But the 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.000 reason for that though, it wasn't because of the Phoenix Suns. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.960 It wasn't because we think it was there great game. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.200 It was the best team we played over all, but 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.920 like team right, not the I'm not talking about individuals because. 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:29.280 Ask Brooklyn was like, uh, but it was the journey 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.840 bro we went to We played the Heat first, and 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:32.439 the Heat was. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.720 Our nightmare nightmare at the time because we lost the 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:36.480 year before them in the bull Remember the year we 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.080 will post. That was the year were post. We were 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.440 supposed to win for sure, and we lost to them, 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.199 and it was just gut feeling, like like we got 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:44.399 to play in the game in the first round and 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.360 we got to fight our demons, and and two three 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.960 games before the end of the season we actually picked. 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.159 We could have we could have lost. We could have 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.359 lost and went and played somebody else. I was like, no, 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.040 we want to play Miami. When we had the rounder 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.840 the smoke, Yeah, we're gonna do it. Let's do it first, 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.520 Let's go through the gauntlet. It's gauntlet, as what you say. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:04.919 And then we play them. And then we played Brooklyn, 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.119 and Brooklyn like beat us to the ground like we 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.320 played Brooklyn the first game they wonted and we kind 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.640 of decided to no play everybody. And in the first 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.240 game we kind of had a scheme of Okay, don't 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.159 let Katie and don't let James and kydie play right right. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.240 So they ended up winning by twelve fifteen. At the 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.600 second game, we're like, no, just playing straight right man? 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.879 Oh man? We lost by fifty. So we went throughout diversity, 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.120 which I think you guys didn't because you guys kept 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.159 winning every Cities by four to one Photosito, Like, you 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:36.600 guys went through cakewalk. 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:41.040 So I think the adversity you guys, I mean yeah, yeah, 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.560 I mean you guys being up, being down two oh, 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.040 was nothing compared to what you guys just been there. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.320 Yeah yeah, and when and think about this about our 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.120 leader too, and leaders in the team like this been 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.720 here in a minute, like we know. That's how you see. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.600 It's some teams that go to they go to the 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.159 final and you notice about sports, right, and they go 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.159 to the fal multiple time and they lose and you 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.280 go like, ah, man, it was it just was it 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.320 that year? Okay, sometimes it's not that year, but sometimes 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.480 it's just like this psychological fact, right, And then you 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.880 go other guys like Dick goes to the Fund, who wins? 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.240 You know, we went to the Fund, we win, Like 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.000 once you get there, they ain't no losing. Now you 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.520 figure that away. So that's how you see the The 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.440 game six game from Yan is like and not you know, 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.639 people say like, oh, that's one of the most legitary 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.480 performances in the in the finals. It is. But I 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.119 say this not because of the game, but how the 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:38.320 game was flowing, like everybody was breaking, everybody was playing bad, 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.320 every everybody was so tense. But you you could tell 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.040 him the beginning of the game. He comes in first 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.040 play the game. He runs up in there and Chase 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.000 McCall bridges and boom blocks him. Second second player, like 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.720 he he was there, we're not going back to Phoenix. 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.280 We're not going back to Phoenix. And it wasn't just that, 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.199 Like I remember, I'd call them because you know all 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:58.280 at the time. So I'm in the hotel and I 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.000 called the security guy. I'm security in the team, and 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:02.560 I go, hey, you go to the locker room, can 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:04.560 get your phone to the locker room. Goes to the 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.920 locker room, textims like, hey, listener because because you know 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.560 a lot of like Yiannis is locked so you're texting 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.800 during the game. Don't have the security to the security 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.600 and Yannis goes to the half times half time. 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.560 See so you're a message a half time Yeah, because. 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:21.960 His second quarters. I got a texting before it comes out, 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:25.800 so get some message. And I go, like, I know 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:27.879 you're locked in. Don't want to bother you, bro, but 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.440 like I want you to think about one thing. The 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.439 trophy is in the building. Do not let this trophy 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.359 leave the building. Don't let this trophy leave the building. 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.400 It's there. We've been well, we used to sell stuff 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.760 in the streets. Man, We've been through like all kind 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.560 of like our life like this, and we know what 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.680 it is like this. We don't get opportunities like you 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.840 never know if you can, you never know. That's why 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:50.960 you see us so so amped up when we play. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:52.760 That's so you see us emped up where we played 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.400 games because we know what it means. It's just we're 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.840 blessed to have this opportunity. So going back to the 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.399 and he just went, it's. 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:04.640 Crazy, yeah, man uh and then shout out to Drew Holliday. 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.560 Just that steal to the to the alley loop just 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:11.000 ripped my heart out of my chest. 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:11.240 Man. 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.600 But I'm just glad we lost to y'all, not like 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.040 you know, the Celtics or somebody who the Celtics. I 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.320 don't like the Celtics in my life. The Celtics and 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.280 the Spurs. I'm not a Spurs, you know what. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.119 I like the Spurs now because I like Wenby, But 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:29.800 you know, when I grew up, like Tim Duncan and 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.520 Manu and Tony Parker used to just just they had 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:35.359 our number in the in the playoffs every year, you know. 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:35.560 So. 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.040 Five rings, yeah, five rings to tell you it's crazy. 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.840 So I watched a couple of months ago, I got 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.399 to watch the documentary about your family on Disney, and. 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.800 So you want you watch the movie it was about 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.160 It was about you guys as whole ship. 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:53.120 No it wasn't. 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.040 Maybe it wasn't a movie, it was a documentary. Whatever 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.840 the documentary is. I watched, so maybe it wasn't on Disney. 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.160 It was HBO, Amazon, Amazon. 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.480 Yeah, because that's not the prime of the movie, is 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:04.920 you know. 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.719 I watched the documentary and you know, dude, I got 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.600 super emotional, like just seeing how Jannis came up and 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.000 how he brought your dad over and your mom over, 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.760 and and how he kind of just put y'all on 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.560 his back and like, you know, kind of obviously you're 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.800 losing your father. I mean, I saw how big of 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.760 a deal that was for you guys, because he was 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.639 the anchor of the family. Is there, you know for 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.600 people who don't know obviously Father's Day's coming up, but 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.480 like for people who haven't seen that, like you know, 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.440 when you said you guys grew up selling stuff in 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:41.399 the streets like you guys, Like literally, the story is 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.840 so crazy. I suggest everyone go and watch it, but 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.760 give me like as quick of a synopsis as possible 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.320 of just like what it was like growing up for 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:53.639 you guys, and you know what it meant for you 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.440 guys to make it to where. 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:58.040 You are now. You know, I so born and raised 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:02.639 in Greece, right, and and you know we started playing basketball, 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.760 like I said I played was when I was fifteen sixteen, right, 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.040 like for like that's a late for basketball player. Uh. 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.560 And then uh shoot, you know we used to help 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.440 my mom and that so think about this is like 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:19.600 at the time my mom and dad came from Africa, 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:25.719 from Nigeria, Nigeria. Yeah, from Africa to degrees. And they 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:27.800 were like okay, you know they came degrees because of 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.440 the education. Right. The educational system in Greece is like stellar, 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.760 and it's free. It's free, you know. So health care 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.240 is free, yeah, most of it. I mean it's not 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.080 like here here, here's the worst. Yeah, it's the worst. 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.840 Not the worst, but no, it's the worst. It's the worst. 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.720 No, we got great doctors, but the actual like buocracy 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:47.240 is terrible. 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:51.640 Yeah, and uh, you know, they try, they did their best. 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.399 They gave everything they had. I'm not like you know, 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:58.400 And we used to like stell sunglasses and streets records 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.360 like mixed like CDs and you guys. 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:02.960 Sell boot leg shit in the streets like you guys 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:04.800 ever get the DVDs where the people who walk past 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:08.200 the screen, you know those those ones the cameras, because 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.000 that's that's how I got my name. Yeah, I used 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:10.840 to sell those movies. 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.040 Yeah. But so because I'll tell you how we worked 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:15.720 at the time. So at the time, it would be 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.440 a blank CD like that behind you, right, and you 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.080 had the stickers move. You had to stick the stickers 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:22.800 on top of it. So I remember, we do this 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:26.440 for countless hours, like like the Matrix three. Yeah, it 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.720 would be you know, and you had like I had that. 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.800 I had that CD burner in my in my house. 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.040 You had was sixteen seventeen. 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.000 No, I had a three one and they couldn't afford 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:35.440 the big one. 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.520 Yeah, but we had like one with like seven oh, 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.480 so you guys were like fucking getting it in Yeah, 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.240 because DVD or CDs both both. 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.200 So yeah, that's how I got my name. 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.320 I'll have to swap meets selling fake CDs and bootleg 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:50.200 mixtape CDs. 0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.200 But I mean obviously pirated. 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:55.840 But how if you want to give us back? 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:56.639 Then it was a part of it. 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:57.920 You had to you had to get. You had to 0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.480 get go see the DVD man and and even that, 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.680 like it's venice. Now you can't do it no more. 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.280 Like now it's like streaming, streaming, Now where would I 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.439 put a disc? Do you have a LimeWire? Of course 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:09.280 war used to do. 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.000 We used to know you used to like how many 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:12.959 viruses did you get on your parents computer? 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:15.720 I used to So we used to pay to go 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.000 to this internet cafe and just a bunch of I 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.879 used to go there and like us b little usbing 0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:21.960 loaded up with some stuff. 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.840 Yes, music, do you remember what your best sellers were 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.040 in the streets of Greece, Like give me a music 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.160 or a movie or a movie? 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.080 A lot of people love to watch like the comedies 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.320 like Eddie Murphy and Uh. And they loved comedies. They 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:42.000 loved uh, like Troy what's the thing? Like Troy was 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:46.680 popping with everybody wanted to what about? 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:47.919 Like who which rapper was hot? 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:49.560 In the streets where you guys are like yo, somebody 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:50.879 be like, yo, I want to mixtape with this this 0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.720 guy fifty fifty for sure, but you can't understand like 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.480 every other rapper or artist I'm not known, but its 0:27:58.520 --> 0:27:59.280 like fifty. 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.879 No, fifties huge everywhere they like go go when. 0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:04.639 That came out, they like they played today you put 0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.440 the mind of his neighbors, go go, go go show 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.159 like it's the thing that's crazy. So you guys are 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.000 kind of making ends meet, hustling in the streets. You like, 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.119 you get to sell like thirty or forty dollars a day, 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:16.680 it's a good day. 0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.359 What point in time did you cause your NBA dream 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.440 became real before before everybody's right, So like no, like 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.560 in terms of like because you're you're older, right, yeah. 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.600 So look, this is this is why. This is why, 0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:33.320 Like you know, you see people like or they say 0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.119 something stuff online. I'm like, if you literally knew, you 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:41.000 would be like what. So Johannis gets drafted and in 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.800 the same draft that Yans gets drafted, I had an 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.360 agent of the time. I still it's still my best man. 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.120 I was the best man at his wedding. They call 0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.280 him to go like, hey, snass the draft. This is 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.840 like two days before and they go. He goes like, no, 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.640 he's not in the draft. It's like, damn, we would 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.840 have picked him at number fifty two with Brooklyn and 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.160 I go like, what they would have picked me? Mind 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:02.960 you to have no paper world nothing. I didn't do it. 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.040 Submit for the draft, right, you got to submit everything, 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.920 Like damn. Joannice gets drafted first round that year. Same 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.920 year he asked me, He's like, hey, what are you doing. 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.080 I'm like, how might just go back home? Yeah, so 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:16.800 he's doing this thing. I was like, I'm going to 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:18.720 go back home, try to, you know, figure out way 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.760 to gave mom and dad and the family there. I'm 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:26.240 just I'm gonna get my career right. This September comes in, 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.760 my agent calls me. He's like, you know what I 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.239 want to put your I want to put your name 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.080 in the G League. I know, in the D League. 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.640 At the time, I was like, what do you They 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.719 have a draft. He's like, yeah, I'll call you if 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.520 they if they pick you, I'll call you whatever. I'm sleep. 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.120 They called me at one o'clock in the morning. I 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:43.960 was like, what happened. He's like, yeah, you got picked 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.480 by the seventy six ers. For the affiliated team. 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.480 Which is like another type of six after yeah eighty 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:50.880 seven or eighty seven ER's. 0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.240 Yeah yeah, And I was like what He's like yeah. 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:54.720 I was like, okay, so what does that mean? I 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.400 know it's not the NBA. What does that mean? Do like, okay, 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.040 you cut right away? Do I go there? Or like 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.520 He's like, okay, you go there for four days and 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:02.920 if they like you, they keep you. You know, you 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.800 go back to Grease. We like, okay, So I go there. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.280 I do the camp. They look they I'm a nice 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:09.880 kid too, like they love me, like it was great 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.560 people there and I and I like played my ass off, 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.120 like I really played my ass off, and then I 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.680 curse you. Yeah okay. So I go there and I'm 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:21.880 the same team. It's me I kill car if you know, 0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.840 I kill Carr from Baltimore. And I was like, uh 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.560 and great players. So we go there. I finished the 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.760 season and I become the we become like me and 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.800 another guy, PJ. Hurston from Charlotte become two the first 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.600 two they ever get draft from the G League to 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.600 the NBA. Wow. And at the night of the draft, 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.920 I'm like, ooh, I know I'm going to Philly because 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:42.959 they told me. It was like, I know I'm going 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:44.600 to Philly fifty six. I know I'm going to Phield. 0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.880 I'm happy. I'm like, I know, go to Philly. Fifty 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.800 one comes in New York, Knicks go like, Hey, come 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.200 to New York, Come New York. Stay where you at. 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:54.840 I was New York at the time. Stay where you at? 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:59.080 What year was this twenty fourteen? So is that the 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.000 tail end of the low era? Yeah, I'm there with 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.960 shump shump, you know, because you had like yeah, yeah, 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.800 so mellow was that was j R? J R. Smith. 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.240 That was the Knicks tape, That was the NIXT tape. 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.720 Was Jeremy Was that Lynn sanity era? 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:17.440 No, he's gone. It was going before. 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.880 It was before Sunday was Sunday was before? Oh yeah yeah, 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.120 so Jeremy Lynn was already gone in twenty fourteen? 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.840 Was it? I think I'm damn I thinks I'm not sure. 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.120 Yeah, it's because it is interesting because it's like, you know, 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.920 I think that like there's no like everyone's journey to 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.360 the league is different. You mentioned like people who say 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.640 stuff online do you pay attention? Were like, because like 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.840 you've heard Charles Barkley say yo that he's always gonna 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.040 have a job because his brother. 0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.320 Oh do you care? That's a compliment because that means 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.720 I'm a good person and I do. Nobody gives you nothing. 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.240 They don't like you first of all. That's why. And 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.160 you have to bring something to the something to tell. 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.760 But I actually like Charles Buckley and I actually like 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.840 Shack and yeah, guys what I mean? And like theys 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.400 this is like finding joke. But like the thing is 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:07.480 like what happens is some kids believe that right Like 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.240 I was in a camp and was working on this 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.600 was increased. It was like this is pre COVID, pre COVID, 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.040 and I'm playing with this kid and we're playing like 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.720 two and two or three and three, and uh, you 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.920 know what I'm supposed to show the kid like you know, he's. 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.320 Like eight, Yeah, but you're not gonna like, you're not 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.120 gonna like go all in and he probably starts, yeah. 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.640 Why would I do that. Then I'm like showing that 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.600 they're playing, and then we'll finished the practice. Everybody's happy, 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.440 and then we go like he goes like I want 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.480 to play. I want to play on playing, so okay, 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:38.720 then we're playing two and two. I'm saying my other brother, 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.080 and I can hear it, like there's kids in the 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.960 background like, oh yeah, yeah, he's not old that you 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.880 got him this that blah blah. So lady, he scores once, okay, 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.960 scores TWI cool. I don't. I literally, I'm not doing anything. 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:54.880 And then I think you want to be like the 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.560 fourth point, they were out by like a two. We're 0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.840 playing two and two, and I so the enough time 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.200 he did something, he grabbed me something, and I saw 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.000 that he believed it in his eyes, He's like he's 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.920 just there. I saw that they believed it. I was like, oh, okay, 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.920 so now now I'm being serious. Now we're going back 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.720 and forth now. And then I scored, scored, scored, scores, 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.640 called back him down, dunk him, buck him down, duct 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.000 him again. You see what I like, I'm not going 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:22.720 to go into the movies. But like the lesson was 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.680 then he sat down. He wasn't talking, and I didn't 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.360 say nothing. I didn't talk trash, say nothing. I said, 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.120 you want to come to the NBA. And I'm not 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.840 even the best brother. You ain't going through me. You 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.440 were going through him and going through him. I saw 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.520 I was looking my bus because off the town coast. 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:42.400 He is with the Lakers. At the time. I was 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.080 younger brother was seventeen eighteen. I said, you can't play 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:49.400 against him, good luck, you can't. What are you talking about? 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.440 You can't play against him? And he said he looked 0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.480 at me. He was like and I felt and I 0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.040 saw that he was her him card and I was like, hey, 0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.600 come here from me. We walked off and I said, listen, 0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.280 you have great talent, you get potential. Don't never nobody 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.880 that you think this is easy. It's not right. I 0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.680 don't care what you well. Nobody says, yeah, not let 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.120 it be a lesson learned. No, but but it wasn't 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.440 the lesson learned to this kid. It was it was 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.640 for It was for him. It was for the kid 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.000 to understand, like, I got to put some work into this, right, 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.759 They say nobody because if it was not his one, 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.839 don't do other people have brothers other people for sure? 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.000 So what so what so I'll give an example. If 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:30.759 it's not easy, you'd be like, you know what, I 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.520 want my brother to have a podcast, I want my 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.800 mom to do this, I want my sister do you 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.640 can do whatever you do for sure, but you gotta yeah, no, no, 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:41.319 you're right for surely. So that's a that's a nice I. 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.600 Just found out what's his name, McDaniels from The Raptors 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.359 is Jade McDaniel's brother. 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.799 I was like, because the son, you know, the sons. 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.399 They always talk about players we might try to get 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:52.840 with our shitty contract situations that we have. 0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.719 And I was like, oh, he's a damn we. 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.120 Get his brother gotta be tired because he's good. 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.279 Do you guys, because obviously you got you know you 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.640 you and your brother got the chop it up with 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.759 steven A. But I always wonder, like, you know, there's 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.880 there's got to be a thin line between paying attention 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.880 to what the talking heads say on TV okay, because 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.239 like people can say some crazy shit about ship your 0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:23.120 brother at times, about about all players, right, Shack has 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.760 said things throughout the years prior to the championship happening. 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.640 Do you guys pay how much attention do you pay 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.960 that like? Or do you drown it out while the 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:31.719 season's going on? 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:36.960 So it only depends, I'll tell you why. It depends 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.160 what you don't want, don' juice pool who are negative? 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.200 So if it's a if it's somebody who you got 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.279 to see every day and they're negative, you don't think 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:45.680 you don't want to be around them, of course not. 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.520 But if it's somebody because think, okay, let's go to Shad. 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.960 You said you said his name right right. Shaq does 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:57.280 not talk shit because he wants to be an asshole. 0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.200 He's actually trying to be like. 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.480 Give it to me. Give you a prime example. There 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.759 was an example when it was for a year and 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:08.200 a half that everybody was talking about the ad. Yeah, 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.680 and they kept telling a D two things like you 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.279 got to be like this, you gotta do this, you 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.120 gotta do this. Why do you think they're saying it. 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:18.680 It's because they're seeing what's happening that Joannie is coming, 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.960 Joel is coming, your kids is coming. They're telling you, like, bro, 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.360 you're the one of us. You got to you have to. 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.080 So that's one example. Another example when check was telling 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.480 embiid something. Remember when MBI came to the league and 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.719 this three and you can go back and look at it. 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:35.880 He used to tweet all the time. He used to 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.440 have the cheeseburgers and before the game, remember all this 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.680 all this other stuff, right, and then all of a 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.640 sudden when people start saying like, hey, you got to 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.400 do this, and the last two years the switch that 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.160 got flipped and if and it flipped and he became 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.080 this Joel and bad. We see now very strictly she 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.360 is a nice, getting great guy, like very into it 0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.000 because she wanted to be. If you think about it, 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.239 he wanted to be the goofy kind of when he came. 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.080 He wanted to probably would have probably would have won 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:04.640 another MVP if he would have got hurt this year. 0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:05.320 The way he was playing. 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.239 But the way he was playing was crazy, but I 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.080 had him on my fanis to me. 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.759 Still crazy that Luke and you understood and now that's 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:13.880 another that's another. 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.279 It is what it is, what it is that I'm 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.520 now My question to you is when you see Yokic winner, 0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.640 you like, you know what hey like? Do you guys 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.040 root for the Europeans? 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:24.160 Uh? 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:28.319 Lucas your guy you played against? 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.759 Yeah, and this is like Lucas your guy? Yeah, he 0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.239 comes like this. Most of the guys you you know, 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:34.799 we talked about like did check in and. 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:39.319 Yeah, I thought for sure like Luca based on if 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.680 you just look at like that roster, the way the 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.360 season started. Obviously they made the trades they got they 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.160 got gaffered, uh and they got PJ. Washington, which are 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:52.160 super underrated moves. But yeah, I'm like, bro, like this 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.200 dude made Nobody thought him and Kyrie would work, and 0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.640 somehow he made it work. And now they're in the final, Like, 0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:59.799 and you can't vote for people based on what they 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:00.600 did in the playoffs. 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:05.200 But yeah, Luca, Luca, look mo thing there. The argument 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:11.879 I always make is this, right, like, there is only 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.600 two guys in this category that had better numbers than 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.640 the time they won. Joe and third was gonna be third, 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.560 Joel was going to have better numbers than the year. 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:28.399 It's you honest, right, and it's look better the numbers 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.360 now Nicola. Nicola won and I'm happy for it because 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.879 that's what is amazing. Yeah, he's all get me wrong, 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.080 but like all these guys had better numbers of the 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:43.799 year than one. Now, if it's numbers predicated, if it's numbers, 0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:48.120 if if it's numbers predicated, okay, maybe Joel would should 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.120 have won last year and somebody else, I mean the 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.799 year before, the year before, that year before. But if 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:57.160 he's predicated on winning, you before this year and half 0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.160 with coach Bud, we had to we used to win 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.719 sixteen games like this regular season. You guys, you guys 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.799 were the regular season. Gods, god, we should we should 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.480 have we should have should have won like five in 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:06.799 a row. 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.960 That's why I when like Booker only came in fourth 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:10.640 the year we I forget how many wins we have 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:11.320 like fourth. 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:16.560 So yeah, they keep the keeps changing. So that's that's 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.920 my problem, right because should have been higher. Exactly they 0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.160 had the best. They had the best, thank you. So 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.839 it just keeps changing. And guys, you know some guys 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:26.360 care about that. 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.960 But you got to kind of like reward being the 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.279 one seed. If you're the I mean, think about the 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.560 under think about the thunder. The thunder, Like the improvement 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:36.960 that they had this year was insane. 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.239 You you have to uh reward that as well. You 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:41.560 get you know, you get the water that we So 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.520 the playoffs shirts are more than the normal playoff shairs. 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.520 So the sitting matters if you if you finish first 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.759 when you get to the playoffs compared to another team, 0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.720 might you guys might do the same thing, go lostly 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.080 losing the second round, or go to all the way 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.600 to the finals, you guys shares more than them because 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.480 you might make more money. Yeah, oh wow. Yeah, so 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.759 if you're one seed, you get more money. Yeah, I 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:05.840 did not know. I'm a businessman, you are. Yeah, But 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:07.480 when it comes to so. 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:08.880 When you're going to when you got the ring, you 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.120 were waiting for that bonus, You're like, oh yeah, I'm. 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.839 Gonna lie to you. For the past six years, I mean, 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.240 we've been a great team. And of course then everything 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.560 I I'm being investors stuff like that. So I I've 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.960 voltadedly allocated already. I'm like, okay, we're gonna get this, 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.359 this this, so you already know where it's going. 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.040 What do you invest? Like, what are some of your 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.840 investments you make? Because I've heard, I've heard you're the 0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.360 brain behind the family in terms of I don't say that, don't. 0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:37.000 Put me, don't do no no. But I work hard. 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.640 I'm on and off the court, and you're not. Are 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:45.319 you like into crypto some parts of it? Like yeah, 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.400 a little bit, I can. I can tell you too, Like, okay, 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.640 I'll tell you. I won't tell you on stocks, real estate. 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.040 Oh yeah, that's the that's the normal stuff. I mean, 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.200 that's the that's the normal. The stocks real estate, and 0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.799 then he becomes and then obviously pab your equity and. 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.680 To that, you like invest in certain companies because you know, 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.040 we've seen tons of players like get involved with like 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:05.359 different drinks. 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.759 And yeah, so underwear companies definitely. I mean we had 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.880 a Kadie funhouse. Yeah, we both we we like for 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.400 the kids for like in general candy and we got 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:19.399 flex power, uh that we had. Then most of it's 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:20.360 overseas and. 0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.000 You guys own have you invested a lot of real 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:24.840 estate back home in Greece? 0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:26.840 Yeah, I mean that's kind of. 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.880 Like sorry, you know, I'm not being very open, but 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.879 like as an investor, you're not supposed to be because 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.240 you makes sense. But it's okay. But when we finished 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:37.480 the part, I'll tell you what can lay it down. 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:38.920 Anything you want to do, got it? 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:39.279 Got it? 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:39.600 Got it? 0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.600 That's great, dude, talk to me. Uh, you got to 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:44.400 give me some insight. 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.680 This season was an interesting one, right because you guys 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.920 had Adrian Griff who obviously when you got let Go, 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:52.680 I think you guys were. 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:53.279 The two seed. 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:59.920 Yeah, very just strange season. Yeah, you know, Doc River 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.279 was killing it doing his TNT thing. And doing his 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.520 podcasting and and then he gets thrown into the mix, 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.200 and you know, Doc's a great guy. I love hearing 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:13.440 him talk about basketball. It definitely didn't you know, things 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.600 things hit obviously it ended with with your brother being injured. 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.000 You can disappointing season, a weird season. 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.320 What was this season like for you? As just like, like, 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:23.400 tell me what happened? 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:23.520 Bro? 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:25.520 So, like, why did Griff get fired? 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:26.120 What happened? 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.279 A lot of people say, well, I'm saying a lot 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.080 of people say it was like he wasn't clicking with. 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:36.799 The players, Like so, okay, it's because because you don't 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.160 ever see that happen where someone gets fired right away. Okay, 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.120 let me say. Let me just say this first of all, 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.239 it's not fair to me speak for somebody else. It's 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.759 unfair for sure about what I what what I think, 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.240 and what what I believe. It was just unfortunate because 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.359 he came into a situation that like first year as 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.959 a coach, and then all of a sudden, you know, okay, 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.440 I got I got Yon honest. You know, I got 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.480 I got honest replacing former coach of the year. Yeah, 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.080 and I got the book like I got like Brook 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.440 Lopez and Chris Millerson and the Milwaukee Bucks the fit 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.120 of deer, like you know, I got this team and 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.200 I gotta do this, and then you end up you 0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.120 end up making a huge adjustment because it was in 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.400 the trade of all trades happens and Dame comes to 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.920 Milwaukee and it's not easy. 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.400 Why did you How many people people don't remember that 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.000 didn't trade? That trade didn't happen like that happened like 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.799 at the end of the off season. It was deep 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:31.480 in the off season. 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.759 It wasn't right away. See two days before camp. 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:37.680 Yeah, it was super right there at the. 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.640 Two days before camp, and uh, it was just it 0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.719 was just unfortunate because he became he came into the 0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.080 situation that now you gotta win because people keep saying like, oh, 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.440 now the NBA is becoming but he was winning. No, 0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:52.719 but this is this is what I'm trying to This 0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:58.120 is what throws your throws you off because it's not winning. 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:03.200 It's the philosophy. Maybe it was not because we're winning games. 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.400 Other teams are winning games. Is how we're winning. 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:12.160 No, you guys are winning because you guys were just size, defense, physical. 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.400 It was the defensive identity of the Bucks was just like, 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.560 you know, if you're gonna play the Bucks, you gotta 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.440 deal with brook Low. Pez you gotta do at the time, 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.120 Drew Holliday, you gotta deal with the best defender of 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:23.520 the modern history. 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.759 Giannis like, yeah, so it's not the winning, it's how 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.120 you're winning and how you're winning by like we went 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.399 to Detroit. We make certain teams and we barely wont 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.799 It's not the you know, I'm not here too. People 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.440 respect me for sure, and people love me, and you know, 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.040 you hear them and Pad and everybody come out like, man, 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.920 they don't do that because they like me, because they 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.160 respect me and what I say as a person, I 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.799 never lie and I never should super coat anything. That's 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:50.440 why because if I like you, it's almost like, you 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.000 know what, like if we're gonna do this, we gotta 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:54.360 let's make a change now since then or later. But 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.560 it wasn't to make it. It was just unfortunately because 0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.400 he's a great guy or person, but he comes to 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.680 a team and he is trying. He tried to kind 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.360 of switch everything right, but the thing was not you 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.680 don't when you come in and you come to a restaurant, 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:11.160 you don't go and you throw the plate. You just 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.080 a little bit, a little bit of slavery displace. 0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.840 We're two years removed from a title like they're not. 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.000 They're't really much broken here. We time to contends every 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.560 every year we have it. This is you can this 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:23.800 year to this year to your. 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:28.560 Brother hundred percent, one hundred percent. But like we are ZiT. 0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.879 And I'm not saying this where the title content never 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.239 something contend that to say, oh, we need to to 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.840 know we have opportunity every year to be one of 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.560 the last things standing. Every single might not be no, 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.520 but you have that. We aspired Milwaukee. You know this 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:45.560 is not the We're not the Celtics or the Lakers. 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.920 This we're small Milwaukee, which people say small. I say 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:53.480 we're big Milwaukee for sure. And we have this aspidation 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:58.040 every year. Now you cannot come in and think not 0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.600 I'm not talking about griff or or anything, but I'm 0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:02.560 saying like as a team and say, okay, we're gonna 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:06.880 throw everything out and now we're gonna play like, uh, we'll. 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:07.480 Go different style. 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:08.120 Yeah different. 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.000 What It's interesting to you because if you think about 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:13.759 coach Bud and his philosophy, he's always looked at as 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:17.360 an offensive guy. But the Bucks were such a stellar 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.640 defensive team anchored by your brother, and it's like it 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.000 was like the best of both worlds. Help me understand 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.759 what we're signing up with. My son's hired your guy coach, 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.520 coach Bud, who's an Arizona native. 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.120 Man, Coach Bud. With Coach Bud, I'm not gonna lie 0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:36.960 to you. You're signing up for great culture. One win another. 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:41.520 They're gon't figure that out. Great culture, it's all about 0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:45.759 the team. Yeah, system, they say, no shoot threes. He 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.400 loves threes. Right, it's not that he loves this is 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.480 how are you taking them threes? How we're shooting them? Yeah? 0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.160 And uh, you're gonna sign for winning. He's a look 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.200 at his record. Many look at. 0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:57.680 Your sixty wins. 0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.440 No matter who's like, I don't know her, Like if 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.000 I ever was front office or if Iver. It was 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.080 all like, I definitely want to work with Coach Bod 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:05.840 and this guy's and. 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.840 You guys had a great rapport obviously coach, but is 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:09.680 somebody who you know? 0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.920 I ship? Was it five years? He was with the 0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.840 Bucks four years? All four years was just no, no, 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:17.960 it was five It was fine. I mean five years 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.200 with the Bucks, the five Yeah, you guys still have 0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:26.160 a good relationship. I'm saying this guy, listen with everybody 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.120 that we won the championship with. It's something lad to 0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.400 Daddy and and I wish to everybody who's listening to 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.400 watching they get to feel something like this in the 0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:36.560 in their line of work, whatever they do, because it's 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:40.040 something that you but that you fight for every year, 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.120 right but like for us, for specifically us as a team, 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.040 not having any guarantee and just be like, you know what, 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.759 we're gonna it's gonna happen, and we're gonna do this 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.040 against all odds and the way we did it and 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.239 it wasn't like it was I'm telling you that up 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:55.680 and down. 0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.719 I went like that's what I love about what your 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:00.799 brother said in that press conference where he's like, yo, 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.120 we're in the NBA, Like you can't win it every year, 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.360 Like you cannot win it every year you can like 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.160 look at the landscape that the league. 0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.480 Has never been more talented like ever, Like it's crazy. 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:13.320 Like if you would have told people that the Western 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.880 Conference Finals were going to be Dallas first Minnesota at 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:17.279 the beginning of the year, people would have been like 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.279 probably not, but look, but look, you. 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.800 Know what I mean, Look because everybody's getting better. Everybody's 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:26.000 getting in the lab and the and the and the 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.759 young bulls and young cats that you saw like the 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:33.320 Tatums and the cal Anthony Towns and then Anthony Edoward's 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.680 now and all these guys and Jellen Browns and Tetada, 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.560 they're growing up and they're understanding, like, hey, you don't 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:41.440 get too many opportunities at this Now, what. 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.080 Is it like going into a locker room and you 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.279 have one of the greatest point guards of all time 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:52.120 now and in my opinion, the only person challenging Tim 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:53.719 Duncan for the greatest power for it of all time 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.000 is your brother at this point. All due respect to 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.520 car all due respect to Carmelong, but you got what's 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.320 gonna end up probably being the greatest power firt of 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.920 all time. And then Damian Lillard, who's just like an 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.240 alien talent, like the guy is, you know, top three shooter, 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.800 top five shooter ever, Like what is that like? Just 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.160 because obviously you know, you guys want to ring with 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.000 Drew Dame's Dame that's Dame Dollar man, Like you know 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.800 what I mean? They got to be cool, like just 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.200 to be like, man, we got Damian Lillard, like worst 0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:20.840 case scenario. 0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:24.120 We we got Dame too, So. 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.080 There ain't the worst case scenario you get, you get. 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:28.680 Your brother gets injured. 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:35.160 On someone's head exactly. Uh. I was very surprised, like 0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.520 when when I first saw him, like the of a kid, 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:42.239 that guy he is, like he's like so genuine and 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:46.680 so like hotfelt and all about winning and willing to 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:50.000 be like hey man, I'm here like like like what 0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.120 what do we do? Right? And I remember like everybody 0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:57.040 was like Milwaukee and he doesn't guys, Oh my god, 0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.080 like these guys going through the all kind of stuff 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.560 stuff like this guy relax and enjoy the team and 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.640 watched this year what I want and watch how them 0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:09.239 boys you know click and play and you say it. 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.759 I feel like that always happens when, like you know, 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.919 think about like Miami's first year, think about like the nets, 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:16.880 like we talked about like you need some time together. 0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.200 And then this was a weird season for you guys, 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:20.960 two different head coaches, Like you guys still got to 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:22.440 kind of get used to playing for Doc, like you know, 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:23.120 it's different, like. 0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.880 A hundred percent. And again The other thing is the 0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:31.400 way he uh he responded to like, hey, you need 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.480 me to be aggressive, be you need me to facilitate 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.279 our facility you knowed me, you need me to be dang. Yes, 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.439 I need you to be dang, you know. And it's 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.000 those things that you don't expect from from the start. 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:46.480 He's caliber because we used to the visually people you 0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.359 know love and names and the guys in the world. 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:53.239 It is because they are like, like you can ask 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.600 any coat you want, They'll be like, yeah, I'll just 0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:58.839 do whatever I told him to do, which is rare. 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:00.359 It like to be that guy. 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:03.719 You see guys who are not even that bigger, they're 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.920 not coachable, is what it is for sure. Sports. But 0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:10.560 like dude being culturable and he's work ethic, like you know, 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:11.840 I work out with him. He was like, hey, you 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:14.759 want to want to do this and and work and 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:16.560 give me porters like hey, man, like why you why 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:18.400 are you holding the boat like this and letting go 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.520 like right like leaning for your figures. He you know, 0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:24.600 told me the technique and why stuff like that, and 0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.759 I was like, man, what and asked me. You know, 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.440 he was one of the first. Actually, that's how time 0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:31.120 about season in my podcast. Yeah, the first with him 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.839 and I said, man, you never smile, and he says 0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:36.960 the story in my pocket. He goes like, well happened 0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:40.000 in high school and like he's right, He's right, yeah, 0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:41.920 And you know there's things like this and he was 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.320 always willing to be an nobody book for me and 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.640 he knows me about two or three months from the beginning, 0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.200 Like that's the guys, this is the feeling you want 0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.920 to have with teammates, you know, called the camaraderie. And 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:54.719 then you know just. 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.920 Like click, that's I mean, isn't that the most important 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.920 aspect active championship culture? You think winning culture is actually 0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:05.960 the cohesiveness of all the guys. 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.520 Yeah, because because people will say winning culture is the 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:11.719 is the winning games on. The culture is the people. 0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.120 That's the culture. If you you know you're becoming. 0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:17.759 Because if you think about like the main stays of 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.040 your guys' roster, I've been the same dudes. 0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.520 It's like you look christ college team Brook, It's me 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:28.600 and Chris is Brook Lopez, It's pot conton Bobby Portois, 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:31.600 and it was a lady was Drew Howdy as well, 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:37.560 and who else was Like we've been together from which 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.919 went crazy. Shout out to Dodante de Vincendo went crazy 0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:42.839 with the next man found a home, had him. He's 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.920 bro the way the Villanova boys have took it over 0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:46.440 the New York. 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:48.600 Yeah, I just hope they figure out a way to 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:52.120 get Michael Bridges. They could just reunite the whole. I 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.279 think it should Villanova championship team. 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:55.720 But like it'd be crazy. 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.480 Yeah, no, it's it's And it's interesting because even if 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.440 you see like the way the Nuggets grew together, you know, 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.239 like obviously they got Gordon, you know what I mean, 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:05.800 but they all grew together like it didn't happen just 0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.080 like that, Like they had to go through adversity, losing, 0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.239 and they never pulled the plug on Mike Malone, who's 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.959 one of the best coaches period. And you know, people, 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.160 I'm sure they were re pundits that wanted that to happen, 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.480 you know, but it's like they stayed down and they're 0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:17.960 better for it. 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.439 But I want you to understand, because you know, people 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:28.759 the reason to get like I say again, edition people get, 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.600 you know, find a different home. I don't want to 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.400 stay fired. They let go. There's a strong word, but 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:39.120 find a different home in the NBA. It's because of 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:44.000 either timing or maybe it was. Sometimes you know, it's unfortunate. 0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:48.480 It just is the business. Why give an example, I 0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:53.200 don't know. I people remember the finals right with the Sons. 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.320 Were down to it was a sweep in series, but 0:53:57.360 --> 0:53:58.360 people don't remember. 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.880 We lost for straight. So we were up to OW 0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:05.160 in the Insta Coms Finals and stuck with it, stuck 0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.680 with coach Bud, stuck with the team, was like, we're 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:11.759 gonna rebuild. And then the next year came in and 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:15.120 then we were up. We had a differential of like 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.160 sixteen points per game. We were beating every body to 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.920 the COVID head right then we go to COVID and 0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:25.600 we lose to the second round again to the heat, 0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.160 and stuck with it and decided, I don't know if 0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:31.040 you remember this, decided to make a move that people said, 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:35.759 what is going on with the Bucks. Traded our whole 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:43.400 bench George Hill, Wesley Muffis, Eric Blackshaw, and and Dante. 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.120 I almost got traded and came back again for Drew 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:46.959 Holiday for one. 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:50.959 Guy and we won, so he's gotta win again. 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:55.080 Maybe hopefully I would like I'm I'm a dream for him. 0:54:55.200 --> 0:55:02.520 Er Luca, No, I'm a drewe holiday god up, yeah, 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:04.120 I would be said. No, No, that's true. 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.239 You guys stayed down. That's why, Like that's the one 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:07.879 thing about you know what I mean? Yeah, no, for sure, 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:08.840 that's like I kind of wish. 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:10.879 We would, but he's a he's a copycat league though. 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.799 It is for sure. I was gonna ask you. Uh, 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:17.160 Jay comes to the team, shout to Jay Crowder, who's 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:17.560 a dog. 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:21.200 Yeah. Do you guys like tease him a little bit 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:27.200 about the finals? No, no, he said, I don't want to. Ye, 0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:27.960 I'm not gonna. 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.320 Because he Jay was like one of them dudes on 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:34.120 our team who felt like, you know, like our enforcer, 0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:37.319 like the dude out there who like would probably talk 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:37.919 the most ship. 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:41.000 Yeah, yeah we didn't. We didn't tease him, but like 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:41.479 he had. 0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:43.720 That shirt he remember he wore the funk Jay Crowder 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:46.160 shirt during the finals run the retcher. Was that the 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.879 finals or was that the year after? After the year after? Yeah, 0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:49.560 it was a year after. 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:52.200 Was it again? You love we love ja Milwaukee's it 0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:56.960 was against the kid guy we love Milwaukee. No, no, no, 0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:01.080 he he actually he actually he was it mostly but 0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:07.640 he was damn man, I had the chances if we're 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.640 seeing the campaign because both of them, you guys have 0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:13.200 campaign too. Yeah, so I remember seeing that. 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:13.759 I hurt my heart. 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:15.759 I was like, damnos a our guys, our valley guys, 0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:17.520 man love camp, camps, golf. 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.440 You know what I'm saying. This guy is so joyful, 0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:22.960 like like I'm an ERGI guy, so what is around me? Always? 0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:26.320 Like he was like man, the t a always you know, 0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:27.319 gets us read for like. 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:31.480 The way he can penetrates, like he's so he's so slippery, but. 0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:39.400 I'm not okay, the way he gets to the paint, 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:44.160 the way he gets to the paint, he's extreme. Campaign 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:46.520 might be one of the most slippery dudes with the ball. 0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:48.480 I'm not from the States, but I'm not going to 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:53.759 say even the ward like yeah, that's you know what 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:54.160 I'm saying. 0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.759 He's so slippery with the ball, like you'd be like, damn, 0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:58.160 he just getting the way he goes to the basket 0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:00.080 and then he has that like like awkward. 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:03.680 Like he's just like yeah, shouts the campaign man. Geez. 0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:05.160 Yeah that that that was interesting. 0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:06.160 Yo. 0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.640 You also you you you have label in Greece. 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:12.680 Cut you up. You told you that, but you also 0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:14.239 said something we were walking through this, you know, But 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.240 I'm sorry I forgot it because I'm not. 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.560 Familiar with the Greek music scene at all. 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:26.240 Yeah, so it's becoming it's started to become like the States, isn't. 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.640 I do a lot of Afro Greeks. That's who I have. 0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:33.080 So it's like Afro beats. But so my brother is 0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:35.320 one of them. My brother does alf for beat lot 0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:39.400 and stuff like that. It's all Greek. It's in English, okay, 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:41.400 but it's just based in Greece. That's all I have, 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:43.880 Like I did, like uh, I had. I have a 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:45.800 artist who was basically a keep shout out to keep plot. 0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.960 I've heard some crazy like drill like from other countries 0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:49.680 where it's. 0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:52.440 Like i'll play you song for sure. I got like 0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:55.880 shout out to Philly, my brother shout out to Moose, 0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:02.000 shout out to keep plot with full label. Yeah that's 0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.320 pretty sick. Yeah, but it's not my. It's not my. 0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:09.480 It's not that you know, I'm making millions of dollars 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:12.400 that's my. But no, it's no. Yeah. I love music 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.800 first of all. Uh And the other thing is that 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.480 I can give opportunities to people like Evend even guys 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:22.080 here like I say like, hey man, I wrap up 0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:24.400 do this. It's nothing for me to go like, okay, 0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:27.480 all right, you want to do EP with us. I 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:29.160 don't got to go like I want to sign you. No, no, 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:29.680 I don't do that. 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.960 Let's do one project, one done. See what happens. 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:34.560 Want done to put you out there. You know how 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:36.440 people go, They text you on Instagram and go like, hey, 0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:38.160 can you support my music? Can you play my music? 0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:40.720 I'll do it. I don't because that's how I got here. 0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:44.840 Somebody this came to Greece. But you know how why 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:49.080 we're playing in the gym. I'm not joking. It's worse 0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.880 than the high school gym. If when you come, you're 0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.520 coming the summer, you said, that's playing, I'll drive you through. 0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:58.000 You see it. And there was that. You had guys 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.920 like Donny Ainge, John Haam, the Bucks. You had all 0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:03.720 these teams come to the small gym and go like 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.040 somebody said, oh let me give you this kid an opportunity. 0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:10.120 Janni's got got drafted. This is true story. You know 0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:11.680 how we have to combine. I went to the combine. 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:14.400 I went next. I went to he didn't go to 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:18.520 the combine, he didn't even do physicals. They just took 0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:21.600 a chance and this is this is just one another 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.400 crazy story. We gots do like a little bit of 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:26.560 Nike and Adidas, but like they went and swing with 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.880 the national team with the national team, and they digitally 0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:33.640 said that because we wasn't invited to Adidas visa camp, 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.680 sums all the kids go to the next generation cap 0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:41.160 and no, no, So it does nothing for me but 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:44.560 good karma to go and say He's like, yeah, I 0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.680 know nobody know me. And I mean we were based 0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:49.080 in Milwaukee, based in La based somewhere in the world. 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:51.760 I don't care if you congo anywhere in the world. 0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:55.160 And you go like, hey man, you know, I uh, 0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:57.680 I rob a little bit or I do this, and 0:59:57.760 --> 0:59:59.360 now if you're bad at it, you're just bad as 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:02.640 nothing I can have, like even decent good. There's nothing 1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:04.640 for me to go like, who do you. 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:05.800 Who do you listen to? 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:07.560 Like, what are some of your favorite artists right now? 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:12.120 That's just you know, in general, h I listened. I 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:17.800 mean obviously Burning Boy Boy, Davy Dose, guys, we ski 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:18.200 like this. 1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:21.520 Is I didn't know how rich Divido's dad was his 1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:23.040 dad's like a billionaire. 1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:26.160 It's crazy. I interviewed him and I was like. 1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:32.439 What the how was the interview? Super cool? Super cool guy. Yeah, 1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:34.680 I mean those guys. And then here in the States, 1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:39.520 uh okay, I can see this. So when I first 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:44.520 got here, uh, I listened only to two artists. And 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:47.320 the two artists I listened to it was reached Homi Kawan. 1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:50.400 Shot rich homie man. That was an era, right, a 1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:52.040 young thug, the rich gang. 1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:54.960 But listen, why though I'm not from here and I 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:57.680 don't have no ties and whatsoever. But the way is 1:00:57.720 --> 1:01:01.440 because my teammates will listened to so we're telling me 1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:04.320 k ran the streets. So it was the time that 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:09.640 reached HOMEI Kwan was like fourteen, put young thug on 1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:13.920 and then you thug, stop your dog. And I was 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:16.520 listening to those guys and and Drake and future. That 1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:18.960 was in my whole because of my because of basketball, 1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:20.800 like and then obviously you had the fifties and I 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:25.440 mean yeah, and then obviously growing up a little bit 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:27.280 more and spending more time to the US, I kind 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:30.240 of changed a little bit, right and having uh uh 1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:35.240 from J Cole you know a little bit. Jay Z Naw, 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:38.760 what'd you think of the Kendrick and Drake? I wanted 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:39.800 to ask you, what do you think about that? 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:41.640 I mean, I I knew it was going to happen. 1:01:42.200 --> 1:01:48.360 I knew what happened that Drake got absolutely just just embarrassed. 1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:52.960 It was very much, uh, your brother putting up fifty 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:54.640 on DeAndre in game six. 1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:58.080 Every time he says that he goes back to it 1:01:58.240 --> 1:01:58.880 was very much. 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:01.120 You know, it was just it was just bad. It 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:03.680 was It wasn't but I knew that. I was telling 1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:04.440 everybody the whole time. 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:06.960 I said, look, I like Drake, He's got great songs, 1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:10.320 He's an amazing artist. But Kendrick Lamar is different when 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:12.960 it comes to the rapping ship and being calculated. And 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:16.120 I tell everybody the whole time, I say this, if 1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:19.840 Drake replies to the like that verse, it's it was 1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:23.880 a piece of bait and he took it so and 1:02:24.080 --> 1:02:26.880 it was just you know, then it was just surgical 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:27.680 from after that. 1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:30.480 Let me give you let me give you an outside 1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:35.240 of the US opinion. Right, everybody's happy outside the US 1:02:35.320 --> 1:02:36.440 because we're gaining music, so. 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:39.120 Of course everybody's like Yo, new New Kendrick and Drake. 1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:42.520 Let's go. Everybody's high. You know, Drake has been this 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:44.160 icon and you know. 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:45.479 He's a worldly artist. 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:48.840 He's got daffrobeat songs, pop songs, songs and you're gonna understand, 1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:52.040 like and I'm talking about that overseas, right, and KG 1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:54.280 came up when ken Jack first came out overseas, Lie 1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:58.200 was with the I got loyal inside of my DNA 1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:06.760 like he was like expanding more to twenty seventeen years now? 1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:09.720 Who wanted one? I'm not the ne expect when we 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:11.760 talk about basketball. I can tell you about the basket. 1:03:12.000 --> 1:03:14.680 But who do you think one who likes? As you said, 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:16.440 from your opinion, Like you've listened to the songs? 1:03:20.200 --> 1:03:24.240 Ah, not gonna you got put people out there, but 1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:26.880 like no, I but I haven't listened to all of them. 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:27.960 Listen all of them? 1:03:28.040 --> 1:03:31.560 No I only I only listen to obviously not like us. 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:34.960 Now it's playing everywhere everywhere, listen listening like us. What's 1:03:35.000 --> 1:03:38.280 the one he says says something about euphoria. Yeah, I 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:40.160 think I'm gonna listen to before that. What's the one 1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:44.880 that the Drake says about like push ups? Yeah, it 1:03:44.920 --> 1:03:47.040 might be shut up and make some drums. Shut your 1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:49.720 ass up and make some drums about metro booming. Yeah, 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:51.360 that's a that's a fun butt. But why is he 1:03:51.680 --> 1:03:53.600 attacking him like this? They want to ask you. 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:55.840 Like to me, it's like, okay, do you remember like 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:57.680 the are you a Marvel fan? 1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:58.040 Yeah? 1:03:58.160 --> 1:04:01.000 Okay, so you you remember Civil War Captain America Civil War. 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:05.720 Yes, it's very much what's happening, except for it'd be 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:08.640 like if if if iron Man was just alone and 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:11.600 then everybody was with Ken, with with with Captain America. 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:14.640 Everyone has pretty much left Drake's side. 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:16.720 There's been a few guys who I'm obviously twenty one 1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:19.400 Savage is cool with both metro Boom and Drake. There's 1:04:19.440 --> 1:04:21.080 a bunch of stuff, I think with a bunch of 1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:23.600 the particular parties involved. Because now you know, the Weekend 1:04:23.640 --> 1:04:25.560 and Drake don't fuck with each other. Metro Boom and Drake. 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:27.400 Don't fuckt Toronto. 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:29.360 Oh you missed out. 1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:33.360 Then Drake talked about the Weekend on both songs, and 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:36.320 then the Weekend got back at him or started. 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:39.960 He threw the first shot on that we Still. 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:42.320 Don't Trust You album, The metro Boom Listen and the 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:45.840 Future and Drake aren't fucking with It's All of Drake's 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:48.800 friends have essentially said the Future has done so much 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:52.120 good like music with Drake, I know classics, they have 1:04:52.160 --> 1:04:53.560 classic classics. 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:56.480 Yeah for sure. Uh is it a it's a sad situation. 1:04:56.640 --> 1:04:58.680 Brothers kids, Like they're one of my kids. That's my 1:04:58.880 --> 1:05:03.360 third mart with Future. What I know, it's crazy. We're 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:05.440 not gonna pick it up. You always said they can't 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:06.000 pick aside. 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:10.320 But like, it's over Kendrick one, So it's over. It's 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:13.960 it's it's it's pretty ice cold for uh. Listen, I 1:05:14.040 --> 1:05:15.640 never thought i'd ever say it's ice called for Drake 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:19.120 out here. You can't say that it's freezing right now 1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:26.520 for him. Yo, I'm curious, what have you thought about 1:05:26.640 --> 1:05:28.880 what you're gonna do because you have you said you're 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:33.040 obviously a business minded guy. You love the sport of basketball, though, 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:38.160 what is a post NBA career like for you? Oh, coaching, 1:05:38.600 --> 1:05:40.120 scouting jump So. 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:43.840 By the way, I've done like like I've done this 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:47.400 like semi ards for like front office. But but like, 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:51.320 and the thing is, I love helping people, like that's 1:05:51.840 --> 1:05:54.120 that's one of my trades. Like I'm very dependable as 1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:57.040 a person, right, and you can depend on me and 1:05:57.160 --> 1:06:02.560 not only that, like I'm very like I'm of use 1:06:02.640 --> 1:06:04.960 for people like I I like, you know, people call 1:06:05.040 --> 1:06:06.360 me and like hey, T can you help me with this? 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:08.040 And I pick up the phone. You know, I never 1:06:08.200 --> 1:06:10.480 have a moment that I go like, I know I'm 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:12.200 bored or whatever, like I always try to help you 1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:15.360 because that's just how I am right now. When it 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:18.680 comes to postgame cult it, I don't know. You never 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:19.520 know that. 1:06:20.040 --> 1:06:22.360 Like let's say you retire coach but calls you, hey, 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:24.040 come help me coach the Suns. I got a lead 1:06:24.080 --> 1:06:24.880 assistant role for you. 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:25.439 Are you going? 1:06:26.720 --> 1:06:27.560 Phoenix is nice. 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:30.280 Phoenix is nice. If you need if he needs me, 1:06:30.480 --> 1:06:33.080 I'll probably do it. I'll probably do it. If the 1:06:33.160 --> 1:06:35.920 only person who I know for a fact that they 1:06:36.000 --> 1:06:40.520 called me I got I'm going is you're doing whatever 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:42.520 I got, Like he calls me, he goes like, hey man, 1:06:42.880 --> 1:06:43.560 how did you do this? 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:46.920 I'm going give me a breakdown because when you got drafted, 1:06:47.160 --> 1:06:48.800 was D'Antoni the coach of the Knicks or was it 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:50.080 Mike Brown who was the coach? 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:52.520 No, So I got when I got when I got drafted, Uh, 1:06:52.880 --> 1:06:55.480 it was Derrick Fisher. Derek Oh my god, that was 1:06:56.440 --> 1:07:00.200 Fisher here, Derek Fisher, right? And uh was that that 1:07:00.400 --> 1:07:04.040 was before the Matt barnesing happened. Can I just stow 1:07:04.040 --> 1:07:07.800 about that? Yeah? So I was. That was the time 1:07:07.840 --> 1:07:10.360 I got my call up with the team, and I 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:11.880 remember I went to the facility and it was a 1:07:11.960 --> 1:07:14.080 bunch of Team Z people and just not Team TMS. 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:16.600 That was yeah, that's it. Yeah, TMZ and a bunch 1:07:16.640 --> 1:07:18.440 of people journalists and waiting out to cameras. And I 1:07:18.560 --> 1:07:20.920 was like, like, what's going on here? I'm driving I'm like, 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:23.960 it's like we're talking about twenty fourteen, ten years ago. 1:07:24.480 --> 1:07:27.040 I'm driving him, like, what's going on? Called my vet 1:07:27.080 --> 1:07:33.280 at the time, Sasa, Yeah, Sasha, all time laker, great 1:07:33.360 --> 1:07:35.720 role player. Yeah, call him. He goes like, hey, ta, 1:07:35.880 --> 1:07:37.320 just I'm talking to nobody knows what. I was like, 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:40.440 I barely know English, so yeah, no problem, no problem. 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:45.400 I walk in, do my practice, and I think, you know, 1:07:45.560 --> 1:07:48.240 it was the whole thing. Coach walked in and he 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:51.200 said like, I know, you guys heard of what happened. 1:07:51.320 --> 1:07:53.920 You know, there was an altercation and stuff like that. 1:07:54.200 --> 1:07:56.280 At the time, I didn't know what he was talking about. 1:07:56.360 --> 1:07:59.040 I thought it was just something personal. Yeah, you know, 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:01.080 he would saying these things and you know, but everything 1:08:01.160 --> 1:08:03.200 is handled and I don't want to take anybody. He 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:07.200 was being very professional, by the way, very professional about 1:08:07.240 --> 1:08:11.480 it at the time, and I didn't understand. I was like, wait, 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:15.000 what happened? And then you know, you had the vets talkings, 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:17.679 like going back and forth, like saying like, oh look, 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:20.120 anybody called me body text. I was like, what's going on? 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:24.400 Mind you? Later on I found out a situation. I 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:26.519 was like, that was it? But he walked in the 1:08:26.600 --> 1:08:29.759 media he was telling I was like trying to explain himself. 1:08:30.000 --> 1:08:33.760 And then after that, I'll make mud bones and sack 1:08:34.439 --> 1:08:36.439 one was it? And I was like, you got in 1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:39.920 the fight with him. Be such a nice guy, yo, 1:08:40.880 --> 1:08:41.040 you know. 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:43.120 I was like, you got in a fight with him, 1:08:44.320 --> 1:08:45.280 such a nice guy. 1:08:45.640 --> 1:08:48.519 I mean, I think, so such a nice guy, like 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:52.519 very you know, very polite and like yo, But it happens. 1:08:52.840 --> 1:08:55.840 Listen, you've got to be coached by now, you know, 1:08:55.960 --> 1:08:58.200 two of the great coaches of the modern era. 1:08:58.360 --> 1:08:59.320 And what is it like? 1:08:59.680 --> 1:09:01.800 You know, obviously we talked a little bit like not 1:09:01.920 --> 1:09:05.559 the most perfect season with Doc. You know, he always 1:09:05.600 --> 1:09:07.960 said this, this is a situation. I wouldn'tish on anybody 1:09:08.000 --> 1:09:09.679 coming in the middle of the season to coach the team. 1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:11.040 But Doc Rivers is. 1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:14.760 You know, the reason why he's been gainfully employed for 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:16.800 the last twenty years is because he's an amazing coach. 1:09:16.800 --> 1:09:17.040 He's one. 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:19.240 I mean, he's obviously want to ring with the Celtics 1:09:19.320 --> 1:09:22.000 and tons of successful the Clippers and say he knows 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:22.280 the game? 1:09:22.600 --> 1:09:25.439 What's it like? Uh being coached by Doc? How's how? 1:09:25.600 --> 1:09:26.240 How is that like? 1:09:26.320 --> 1:09:29.680 Because you know Doc is he's a lovable guy. Like 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:31.400 when you hear him talking, like, man, fuck with Doc. 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:32.960 I want to go here with him. I want to 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:35.360 go get Yeah. It's the same thing as as a 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:38.519 player too. Like first ding May walked in. You know, 1:09:38.840 --> 1:09:42.040 I'm trying to always like, you know, but I don't 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:44.200 know him like coach like coach buthers, yeah, like I've 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:47.880 known coach like years, you know, and Uh walked in. 1:09:47.960 --> 1:09:50.360 He was like he teah, man, I heard you. Did 1:09:50.400 --> 1:09:52.920 you take care of everybody in Greece? Man? When I'm 1:09:52.920 --> 1:09:54.800 gonna get my invite? I looked at her, you know, 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:56.960 shocked a little. That was like coach. You don't need to. 1:09:57.080 --> 1:09:58.840 You can't. You know what I'm saying, You can't. You 1:09:58.960 --> 1:10:01.840 come through any time, you get everything like that. And 1:10:02.160 --> 1:10:04.920 uh and he's such a basketball family too. He comes 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:07.720 like he so he understands basically. 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:11.240 Like I kind of dynamic as well, like all, yeah, 1:10:11.280 --> 1:10:13.519 his son plays like obviously you know they have a 1:10:13.640 --> 1:10:15.960 crazy I mean from his career to his I mean 1:10:16.000 --> 1:10:18.680 in Austin's been a yeah obviously he just analysis now. 1:10:18.720 --> 1:10:21.439 But he had a very very successful NBA career. Yeah, 1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:23.360 and then I found out like he played market because 1:10:23.360 --> 1:10:25.240 you know, I didn't know he played a marquete. Yeah, yeah, 1:10:25.320 --> 1:10:27.240 I didn't know that I was. And then I found 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:28.680 out about that. I found out about that, and I 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:31.280 was like, oh man, okay, he's great for Milwaukee all 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:33.799 these things, and you know he did the best. He's 1:10:33.960 --> 1:10:34.640 stray forward by the. 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:38.640 Way, super straightforward. You appreciate that because you know, I 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:39.719 feel like, then, yeah. 1:10:40.400 --> 1:10:43.439 I got to nowhere I stand all times. If you 1:10:43.479 --> 1:10:45.960 don't mess with me school, I'll go this way. I'd rather. 1:10:46.400 --> 1:10:49.000 I'd rather know no, no hard feelings, no nothing. But 1:10:49.240 --> 1:10:51.439 like what I don't like is that's why I don't 1:10:51.479 --> 1:10:52.960 do that That's why I don't like when people were like, 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:57.560 oh yeah, man, and then so give an example. I 1:10:57.680 --> 1:11:00.680 come up to you, hey man, I got such and 1:11:00.720 --> 1:11:05.240 such investment blah blah blah, and you hear it from somebody, 1:11:05.920 --> 1:11:07.599 and I've always told you like, hey man, I got 1:11:07.640 --> 1:11:10.000 you anything you need if you tell me, and if 1:11:10.040 --> 1:11:12.360 you ask me, and I go like, oh, you know what, 1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:14.960 you gotta wait for the next round. I really don't 1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:17.920 mess with you like that. It makes sense. I really don't. 1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:20.280 If you tell me and go like to hey man, 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.320 I'm trying to do this, I got you. That's all 1:11:22.360 --> 1:11:25.880 I gotta say. So this is the straightforward that he has. 1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:28.160 You know, he goes. I remember after the All Star Game. 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:30.720 It was the point that we went like ballistic after 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:35.240 the stars goes because he came and he told everybody 1:11:35.640 --> 1:11:38.600 what they were supposed to do. It's simple as that. 1:11:38.680 --> 1:11:42.080 It doesn't matter if the top dog, you're in the 1:11:42.160 --> 1:11:44.559 middle of the pack, load of pack. It's a wolf pack. 1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:48.240 We're all connected. We're all chasing somebody for miles away. 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:52.120 We're chasing the championship. It takes, it takes. It gonna 1:11:52.120 --> 1:11:55.519 take days, weeks, months, years. We're chasing something we've all 1:11:55.600 --> 1:11:57.760 being a part of the wolf pack. If we're not 1:11:57.880 --> 1:12:00.160 all accountable saying hey, you gotta do this better, Hey, 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:03.040 you gotta do this, you cannot function. You just can't. 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:06.559 That's why you see teams they go and you care 1:12:06.680 --> 1:12:09.760 about teams like hey, man, uh, you see teams having 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:11.760 a team meeting, which basically you know when they say 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:14.200 team meeting in the beginning of the season not always 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:14.599 a good thing. 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:17.280 Or if they say a player's only meeting happened. 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:18.439 Yeah, yeah, it's not a good thing. 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:20.760 Right, that's how I think that's always a bad thing. Hey, 1:12:20.880 --> 1:12:23.320 they had a player's only meeting after Sunday night's game, Like, 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:25.520 that doesn't sound good, which just started this season. 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:27.160 Of what's going on. So that's how you understand that's 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:30.880 miscommunication and it's everybody doesn't know that, is it? 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:33.559 Like do you guys know if something gets leaked, who 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:35.439 it comes from, and does it piss you off? 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:38.559 A hundred percent? So give an example, like this year 1:12:38.760 --> 1:12:41.360 it was a thing, Yeah, like there was a leak. No, No, 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:44.080 there wasn't. It wasn't there was a leak. It was 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:46.680 just the thing that we're the bucks. We're not the 1:12:47.000 --> 1:12:49.120 we're not the big like you guys aren't the Lakers. 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:51.280 You guys aren't like you guys have never been seen 1:12:51.320 --> 1:12:54.040 as like a messy franchise because we're not, because you're not. Yeah, 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:56.680 but we don't. We go home. Everybody has fun. We 1:12:56.760 --> 1:12:59.600 go home, Wait bossible and go home. Yeah, go home, bossibill. 1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:02.600 So you go home, like, don't we just don't do. 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:05.559 Some cheese curds. Yeah, out to Wisconsin. 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:10.479 We just don't do stuff. So now when it comes 1:13:10.640 --> 1:13:13.920 with like the game and locker room and stuff like that, 1:13:13.920 --> 1:13:20.479 that's why it's it's basically bullshit. It's bullshit. Like you 1:13:20.560 --> 1:13:23.280 asked me, like, oh, did you teach Jay? Yeah, but 1:13:23.320 --> 1:13:25.400 I'm not going to go and go into detail like this. 1:13:25.520 --> 1:13:29.200 Yeah, of course, because it's it's between brothers. It's between 1:13:29.560 --> 1:13:31.360 what happens. Says the exactly. 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:34.000 Now, at some point, if it's an old story or 1:13:34.120 --> 1:13:37.679 something that happened and get out there public. You already 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:40.200 knew about it's public. It's not me to say it first. 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:44.160 But there is a code to it. There is a code. Yeah, 1:13:44.400 --> 1:13:47.360 you and and sometimes people forget about this. You don't 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:49.680 when they forget when they retire and they and they 1:13:49.760 --> 1:13:52.400 go to TV, or they start no, it's no. People 1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:56.919 forget about this. People forget how how uh A spouse, 1:13:57.080 --> 1:14:00.720 a significant other, a sister, a mother are. 1:14:00.240 --> 1:14:01.639 Affected by what they see on TV. 1:14:02.640 --> 1:14:04.080 They know I don't want it. I know I don't 1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:05.880 want it because I play this, and I know that 1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:08.760 the next day I'm gonna go and and now I'm 1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:11.639 gonna play great. I'm gonna stay with my family. I'm 1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:13.920 gonna get them up. Yeah, there's certain guys you'll always 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:16.080 see saying shit where you're like, and then you hear 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:18.120 other players talk like, bro, you're an ex player, Like 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:21.680 why would you violate like that? Like it's a it's 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:23.960 a it's a cold that I think people forget once 1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:27.880 they stop playing, right, which they shouldn't because. 1:14:28.080 --> 1:14:30.439 Well, because they're also they also are trying. They want 1:14:30.479 --> 1:14:33.880 to get ahead and their new career, and in order 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:35.200 to get ahead in their new career, you got to 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:37.559 kind of unfortunately, like as we've seen over the years, 1:14:37.640 --> 1:14:37.800 like that. 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:38.719 I wouldn'tay. 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:40.439 I don't want to say messy because I respect Steven 1:14:40.479 --> 1:14:43.760 A and Skip Bayless. But the more you know outlandist 1:14:43.840 --> 1:14:46.920 you are on TV, you want to make headlines, it 1:14:47.360 --> 1:14:49.960 usually equals success but JJ Redi's done a good job 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:50.519 of kind. 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:53.360 Of Yeah, he kind of holds it. Now, let me 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:57.640 let me give you another fact about this. It's not 1:14:57.840 --> 1:15:02.040 about the what you say. You might have an opinion, 1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:03.640 you're telling about how you say it. 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:06.760 Yeah, like you said about Shaq, When Shaq talks shit, 1:15:07.040 --> 1:15:09.360 you know, it's because he's disappointed and he thinks you 1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:11.080 could be a great big man exactly. 1:15:11.200 --> 1:15:12.439 It's coming from a good place. 1:15:12.720 --> 1:15:15.760 Yes, he doesn't have a beag. This my opinion. Now 1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:17.880 I might be wrong. Yeah, but I'm sincere. I might 1:15:17.960 --> 1:15:22.280 be sincerely wrong. Say, but like he doesn't, I don't 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:26.080 think he has a beef whit, I don't you know. 1:15:26.160 --> 1:15:27.640 I think he's come out and apologize for some of 1:15:27.680 --> 1:15:29.120 the things he said. Yeah, I think that was the 1:15:29.200 --> 1:15:31.120 only guy you could probably point to and say yeah, 1:15:31.160 --> 1:15:33.240 but he even said I just wanted him to be great. 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:35.400 Yeah, I don't think he has a beefoo ruty either way. 1:15:35.760 --> 1:15:38.800 But but I think that that's the only guys he 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:42.640 he calls. He no, he feels comfortable talking because he's 1:15:42.680 --> 1:15:44.640 a big man. For sure. He can't like as a 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:46.840 big man. Let me give AIX album. I'm playing the 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:49.040 two or three. I can't be talking about a seven footer. 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:51.760 I would want Shack to get me, like real, Shack 1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:53.599 is the most dominant big man ever. So like, yo, 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:55.360 I'm listening, what did Jack say about I mean, let 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:57.439 me hear because I want to hear it. Yeah, is 1:15:57.479 --> 1:15:58.880 this a samurai tattoo on your arm? 1:15:59.080 --> 1:15:59.599 It's my dad. 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:03.160 That's your dad as a samurai. You ever played a 1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:04.800 game on PlayStation The Ghosts of. 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:10.360 I know what you do, shaid fire. I just started playing. 1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:12.240 It's so good. I played it. I plated, I like, 1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:14.760 but I played it in like PS like PS four. Yeah, 1:16:16.280 --> 1:16:20.600 but you know, going back to the hole and be 1:16:20.680 --> 1:16:23.120 a thing they just forget. You see it with Gil 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:26.880 So look what happened, Like I stopped when we stopped, 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:28.880 now I went back and I started like going on 1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:31.599 socials and see like, hey, you know the podcast because 1:16:31.600 --> 1:16:34.080 I'm trying to really go my podcast in the right 1:16:34.160 --> 1:16:36.960 way and feel like, okay, who you know people talk 1:16:37.000 --> 1:16:40.320 to and you see what gilbis. He's done. Incredible job 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:43.840 that he came in. But sometimes, like I remember it 1:16:43.920 --> 1:16:48.040 was a situation with this kid from Houston. Bro, you 1:16:48.120 --> 1:16:50.760 said some stuff like Bro, you can't say this. You 1:16:50.840 --> 1:16:55.000 can talk about basketball and stuff. How do you think, 1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:58.120 Like this is archive, bro, people, it's there forever, He's 1:16:58.160 --> 1:17:01.040 there forever. You might go back and yeah, for sure, 1:17:01.400 --> 1:17:02.800 Like you know what I mean, this guy said this 1:17:02.880 --> 1:17:04.600 about my dad, Like no, because it. 1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:07.560 Was about Jalen Green, right, yes, I'm like, who's a 1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:08.280 literal kid? 1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:11.200 Yes, and he's a good like he looks like a 1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:14.080 great player and he plays great. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:16.120 in my head, I'm like, that's the one thing that sucks. 1:17:15.920 --> 1:17:17.640 Is when you're like, you know, obviously you know with 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:19.760 his personal situation, everyone's going to talk about it. 1:17:19.840 --> 1:17:21.320 And then from there, like you said, he's got a 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:22.200 kid that's. 1:17:22.040 --> 1:17:23.600 Going to be born obviously on the way, How did 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:26.840 you Guilbert knows exactly what he's doing? He knows because 1:17:26.920 --> 1:17:29.439 I'll think why why I say he knows because he's 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:31.839 very knowligible when it comes to basketball. 1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:36.960 He split the game and he's smart pop culturally, like 1:17:37.080 --> 1:17:38.639 he's like a sharp dude. 1:17:39.040 --> 1:17:44.200 So you can't, yeah, you can't or say stuff on now. 1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:45.640 I remember when he said that, I was like, you 1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:48.519 know what I mean, like, oh, that's not cool. 1:17:48.680 --> 1:17:51.120 That's a code that I because you know, whether people 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:55.160 want to. You know, in the NBA, there's certain you know, 1:17:55.800 --> 1:17:58.040 you might end up with someone who might have dated 1:17:58.080 --> 1:17:58.960 somebody else in the league. 1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:02.120 That happens. So you're acting like people don't have a 1:18:02.160 --> 1:18:04.280 type of course this girl might have it. But I'm saying. 1:18:04.320 --> 1:18:05.560 But what I'm saying like, but at the end of 1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:07.439 the day, that's part of the code of the league. 1:18:07.479 --> 1:18:09.880 I know, I'm cooling up with enough guys and like 1:18:09.920 --> 1:18:11.760 I understand, like this is shutin shit you just don't 1:18:11.880 --> 1:18:12.640 talk about. 1:18:12.479 --> 1:18:15.320 Like it's not only though you don't talk about it's 1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:18.400 autoly mets. You don't go even go close to your 1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:22.519 get involved, Like yes, it's like yeah, but that's the 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:24.240 only thing when it comes to that. That's what I mean. 1:18:24.880 --> 1:18:27.400 Everything else is entertainment. I can see everything else like talk. 1:18:27.560 --> 1:18:29.320 I have a great idea for an episode you and 1:18:29.400 --> 1:18:31.240 your honest Brooke and Robin. 1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:33.880 I want to I'll make that heaven. I want to 1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:34.559 make that sounds like. 1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.040 The two like all four of y'all, just because them 1:18:37.160 --> 1:18:38.040 dudes are hilarious. 1:18:38.120 --> 1:18:42.680 For you don't even imagine how hilarious this is. He 1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:45.519 goes on my podcast and we're talking and he goes 1:18:45.560 --> 1:18:48.080 like about the amount of like fist bumps in the NBA. 1:18:48.880 --> 1:18:50.880 What are you talking about? It's like and then I 1:18:50.920 --> 1:18:51.760 started to notice, like. 1:18:51.920 --> 1:18:54.280 We do fist bump a lot lots of fist bumps. Yeah, 1:18:54.800 --> 1:18:57.200 he goes like, you know, I'm reading my book. Somebody 1:18:57.240 --> 1:19:02.720 goes by fist bump. So it goes by like I've 1:19:02.720 --> 1:19:06.240 gotten fifty fist bumps. Yeah, you guys, but like I'm out. 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:10.479 Yeah, but he's he's he's held Rob and Brookman the same. 1:19:10.640 --> 1:19:14.519 Like the way he talks to the rebuttal, Yeah, that 1:19:14.640 --> 1:19:16.760 is not the right world, rebuttal. He has to like 1:19:17.280 --> 1:19:20.439 towards the refs or somebody like it's crazy and you 1:19:20.479 --> 1:19:24.559 know Stanford athlete, you know, super super, both of them, Yeah, 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:24.960 both of them. 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:26.200 That'd be a good episode. 1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:26.719 Listen. 1:19:26.960 --> 1:19:30.599 Uh. I look forward to your guys's bounce back next 1:19:30.640 --> 1:19:32.679 season because I know it's going to be glorious. First 1:19:32.720 --> 1:19:35.960 full season under Doc will be dope. If you had 1:19:36.000 --> 1:19:39.600 to put your GM hat on without before you go, 1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:44.120 because you said you do seminars about yeah stuff, fix 1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:49.439 the Phoenix suns for me. Wow, you've already hired, You've 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:52.040 hired your coach. Okay, so you got your guy, Bud 1:19:52.320 --> 1:19:53.639 which we're very excited about. 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:54.680 Yes, we have. 1:19:54.920 --> 1:19:58.559 We're second Apron team. It's terrible that. 1:19:58.640 --> 1:20:00.640 I feel I feel like I'm giving huel to like 1:20:00.720 --> 1:20:03.240 a great team already. I feel like I'm gonna give 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:04.760 out a game plan second Apron team. 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:05.880 There's not much we can do. 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:07.839 Okay, we don't have a lot of flexibility. 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:09.800 We own the twenty two number, twenty two pick, and 1:20:09.880 --> 1:20:11.439 we own our twenty twenty eight draft pick. 1:20:12.560 --> 1:20:14.519 Yeah or is it thirty one? No, the thirty one 1:20:14.600 --> 1:20:17.840 draft pick. So you're in a tough situation. Oh, yeah, 1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:18.599 we're in a tough situation. 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:22.200 Yeah, Brad Brad Beil's got a no trade coss so 1:20:22.680 --> 1:20:25.000 he's he's he's not who does no trade class? 1:20:25.040 --> 1:20:27.880 Okay, good for him? Yeah, oh no, no, said I 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:29.000 always have looking for the player. 1:20:29.320 --> 1:20:34.760 Just let you know, always forget always no drinking, all, 1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:36.000 get every red set. 1:20:36.000 --> 1:20:39.519 Everything you get like I'm yes, I'm the guy. Okay, 1:20:39.600 --> 1:20:41.439 So let's go to the team. Did a great coach 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:44.800 that was the beginning head a snake, great coach. Now 1:20:44.840 --> 1:20:45.840 culture just. 1:20:45.840 --> 1:20:48.360 Paid your boy, Grayson Allen. Yeah, led the league in 1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:50.680 three point shooting, Yes, sir, and and the nightflul So 1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:54.400 you paid him, deserves it under honestly got to steal 1:20:54.560 --> 1:20:56.080 in my opinion, based on his productions. 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:59.160 Yeah, issu did uh? You Sean Grayson by the. 1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:01.320 Way, shout out to him road Dick kicks this season. 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:05.960 No, No, he does it. 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:08.000 When we got Grayson Allen, I was like, God, he 1:21:08.560 --> 1:21:08.840 does it. 1:21:08.920 --> 1:21:11.120 He just plays hard and he's like he goes to 1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:13.920 the ball and he extends. But he right. But zero 1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:16.240 for the Sons, which I appreciate. Yeah, but okay, okay, 1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:19.360 So as a team, you go and you get a 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:19.840 point guard. 1:21:20.160 --> 1:21:21.320 We don't have a Yeah, you're right. 1:21:21.600 --> 1:21:25.360 Yeah. Uh. The way you get a point guard is 1:21:25.479 --> 1:21:28.599 that you can't Actually he goes. I'll tell you why 1:21:28.640 --> 1:21:30.559 you can't because of the you have a selite guy. 1:21:30.560 --> 1:21:32.400 We don't about three players that make week. We have 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:35.720 to sign someone on a veteran minimum. That's what do 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:39.080 you sign? Maybe campaign, Yes, you signed him on a 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:40.839 hot to beat. I signed kind of pay campaign. 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:44.080 Maybe we draft Brownie Junior and then try to convince 1:21:44.240 --> 1:21:45.759 Lebron James to join the Suns. 1:21:46.880 --> 1:21:49.600 You can't do that as well, you can't. But but 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:52.920 the thing is, we have the twenty second pick. We 1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:53.559 can draft him. 1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:56.720 You can't draft him at twenty two? Now is he 1:21:56.800 --> 1:21:59.080 probably a second rounder or an undrafted guy? 1:22:00.040 --> 1:22:01.040 You think it's a first round. 1:22:01.800 --> 1:22:03.559 You know what division? I say, he's a fence out there, 1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:07.840 trust me from the how many okay, well, how many 1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:11.680 friends round to played last year for us in the NBA? Oh, 1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:17.960 give me, give me my number. Fifteen? Maybe less, they're 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:23.200 like played real minutes. Yeah, probably fifteen, maybe less? Yeah, 1:22:23.240 --> 1:22:26.280 maybe's maybe less exactly less. Point So if you if 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:28.040 you go with that, and you go with the overseas 1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:29.920 guys coming in the tower, the entire of the world 1:22:29.960 --> 1:22:35.559 coming in you really it's okay if you already have KD. 1:22:36.160 --> 1:22:39.000 Badley Beal and Devin Booker, Like, it's not like you're 1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:40.880 looking for the next victim when you already have like 1:22:41.680 --> 1:22:43.120 the space, Like, I don't know how you want to 1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:45.160 call them, Okay, you know, okay, you don't call them. 1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:49.280 You can't call them the you can't call them a 1:22:49.280 --> 1:22:51.240 super thiing, I don't want to call them super. 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:54.160 Simpers over there, but definitely as inaccurate, inaccurate. I don't 1:22:54.160 --> 1:22:55.479 want to go we got swept in the first round. 1:22:56.160 --> 1:22:58.479 No no, no, no, no, no no, that's team wise, 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:00.240 we're talking about the individuals. 1:23:00.760 --> 1:23:02.320 Like we got Katie, we got Katie and Book. 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:06.280 No, you got Katie Book and Brandley Bill. Now what 1:23:06.400 --> 1:23:11.280 do you call them? Even nice I used to Okay, 1:23:11.280 --> 1:23:12.640 you don't call them sing, but you call them the 1:23:12.640 --> 1:23:14.200 guardians of the galaxy. You definitely call them. 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:17.120 We're not the Avengers with the garden, but we might 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:21.519 be the guardians of the galaxy. Yeah, sure, star Lord 1:23:21.640 --> 1:23:27.519 is Book. I think Drax is Katie and then no, no, 1:23:27.720 --> 1:23:32.559 I think kt KT. Yeah you're right, Katie's Bradley Bilis 1:23:32.640 --> 1:23:35.639 and Drags and Bradley Bill's Rock and Raccoon. 1:23:36.080 --> 1:23:38.800 Yeah, one of the other. But example like, they ain't bad. 1:23:38.880 --> 1:23:40.639 They get the job done, they get the drop done. 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:43.600 Not only bad, they are stars in what they do. 1:23:43.800 --> 1:23:47.800 So now coming back to how to fix the team, 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:50.439 it's just you in tough pick You guys have to 1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:54.439 say tough pickle, predicament pickle. We're in a pickle. Yes, 1:23:54.520 --> 1:23:58.400 that's the We have limited more and more yes, yeah, 1:23:58.600 --> 1:24:02.160 limited options. So now you gotta swoop, sit back and 1:24:02.320 --> 1:24:05.160 decide what's gonna happen. We gotta pray you go, no, no, 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:07.840 you go one more year, two more years, three, more years, right, 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:12.080 and then you figure out when it's the last rodeo. Well, 1:24:12.120 --> 1:24:13.840 it's like and then and then you go like, okay, 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:15.680 now I when a point god, and then you pay them, 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:18.640 pay them. But I think, like you know, going to 1:24:18.960 --> 1:24:20.400 how do you build the team? And the Phoenix, the 1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:22.360 Phoinxunds already have a great team. The only thing is 1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:24.479 that will buy by the injuries. You're the only team 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:26.280 to actually beat the defferent Nugget. I don't know, people 1:24:26.280 --> 1:24:28.120 don't even say this, but the only team that was 1:24:28.200 --> 1:24:30.160 munching up well with the Devon Nuggets whole year. 1:24:30.280 --> 1:24:33.320 I was actually hoping to get them smile early. No, 1:24:33.439 --> 1:24:35.280 you're right, You're right. We we we match up great 1:24:35.320 --> 1:24:35.720 against them. 1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:36.240 I'll say this. 1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:40.479 I'm very enthusiastic about our coach higher And like you said, 1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:45.560 you know, no matter what, if you have Jannie on 1:24:45.680 --> 1:24:48.320 a team, and obviously you guys have Giannis and Dame, 1:24:48.439 --> 1:24:50.600 But no matter what, if you just have Giannis, you. 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:51.920 Always don't have a chance to win a ring. 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:52.320 Yeah you have. 1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:53.920 You always have a chance to be one of the 1:24:53.960 --> 1:24:54.479 final teams. 1:24:54.640 --> 1:24:58.880 We have Kevin Durant, Kevin Booker, and Bradley Beal a 1:24:59.000 --> 1:25:00.600 lot of other ship has to go right, but a 1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:02.360 lot of shit has to go right for everybody else too, 1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:05.560 So at least I'm confident. 1:25:05.840 --> 1:25:08.559 We're you know. And to add to that, and our 1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:11.000 owner is very you know, he's he's ready to make 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:11.479 a move too. 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:13.800 He also thinks it's NBA two K. God bless him. 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:15.519 He's running the team like it's two K. 1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:18.560 He's just trade like making trades like it, you know 1:25:18.600 --> 1:25:21.080 what I mean, like like, yes, but it's a copycat 1:25:21.240 --> 1:25:23.400 league right when I say. 1:25:23.520 --> 1:25:26.160 He's just copycat and ship that worked like eight years ago, no, 1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:30.360 like the Big three thing. By the way, I know 1:25:30.680 --> 1:25:33.840 your brother was a part in my opinion that you 1:25:34.360 --> 1:25:37.280 both your brothers, but your your your younger brother, that 1:25:37.680 --> 1:25:42.560 that Laker ring was the first ring that said the 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:45.519 super team isn't necessary. And then you guys carried that 1:25:45.600 --> 1:25:49.760 tradition on because I was hating the super team era 1:25:49.880 --> 1:25:53.320 of the NBA. So thank you, guys for you've stomped it. 1:25:53.400 --> 1:25:55.479 You could have stomped out the dreams of super teams 1:25:55.520 --> 1:25:56.360 when you guys beat the nets. 1:25:56.400 --> 1:25:58.800 To be fair, that's what I told you thirty for 1:25:58.880 --> 1:25:59.599 thirty some point. 1:25:59.680 --> 1:26:01.840 Maybe maybe no, that's a thirty for thirty. You buying 1:26:01.880 --> 1:26:03.320 the tickets is a thirty for thirty. 1:26:03.360 --> 1:26:08.120 I'm telling you, but uh again, this copy cut? You see? 1:26:08.360 --> 1:26:11.200 You see what we did? Yeah? Like you think I'll 1:26:11.240 --> 1:26:13.000 give an example. Why do you know? Copy cut league 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:15.479 guys like Jay, Guys like me. Forget about Jay just 1:26:15.640 --> 1:26:18.280 being here for a minute. Guys like me. I guarantee 1:26:18.280 --> 1:26:20.640 you at least not even a joke that when it 1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:23.599 comes to culture, locker room and winning, I've been fighting 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:25.920 spot than anything from the from the fifteen man to 1:26:25.920 --> 1:26:27.920 the fourteen man of thirteen guy told got and I'll 1:26:27.920 --> 1:26:32.600 tell you why, because I'm a winner, and because teams copycut. 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:37.479 Give an example, when we fired Bud, what happened? What happened? 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:42.680 Phoenix fired Monty? You're right? And they and then and 1:26:42.720 --> 1:26:47.000 then who else fired their coach? The sixer, the Lakers? 1:26:47.040 --> 1:26:50.760 Yeah, and all three of those guys had worked, were 1:26:50.880 --> 1:26:52.280 very successful. 1:26:51.920 --> 1:26:52.559 Very successful. 1:26:52.600 --> 1:26:53.960 Two of the three won the right league. 1:26:54.000 --> 1:26:56.280 They sold the bucks and then went like, damn, they 1:26:56.800 --> 1:26:59.400 made a move. Maybe we ain't making a move. So 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:01.800 you got a stand. It's a it's a league that 1:27:01.960 --> 1:27:05.120 copies winning and having that. That's why I told you, 1:27:05.240 --> 1:27:08.040 Like everybody I'll give an example. Think about look about 1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:11.640 coaching Tree. Right, we had Bud and then him was 1:27:11.760 --> 1:27:14.599 lead assistant down your Ham coach with the Lakers, lead 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:17.560 a system. Charles Lee, he's with the Celtics. He just 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:21.679 signed with Charlotte Hornets. Lead assistant Tayler Jenkins, Memphis Greasies 1:27:21.920 --> 1:27:25.560 leader sisters was with him, Quick Snyder. Uh bro. It 1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:30.200 doesn't stock crazy Tree because because it's winning well, people 1:27:30.280 --> 1:27:31.720 call home and go like, hey, we want you to 1:27:31.840 --> 1:27:33.680 t because we know how to get this done and 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:37.160 what you guys did to replicate it and it's real something. 1:27:37.200 --> 1:27:39.479 That's what What do you think Jay will never not 1:27:39.560 --> 1:27:41.439 have a job. What do you think because they winners 1:27:41.560 --> 1:27:42.719 and they know like okay. 1:27:42.920 --> 1:27:46.439 And they bring something that is outside of basketball, that 1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:47.680 is tangible, outside of. 1:27:47.680 --> 1:27:48.720 What happens on the court. Thank you. 1:27:49.120 --> 1:27:51.240 It's about thank you. It's about the locker room too, 1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:51.760 thank you. 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:55.240 That's you need a guy to be able to talk 1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:57.160 to every You need a guy that is going to 1:27:57.200 --> 1:27:59.680 bring the right energy. The young guys are gonna respect that, 1:27:59.760 --> 1:28:01.439 the old guys are going to respect man. 1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:03.560 And he's done it and he doesn't say he's not. 1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:06.800 He's not telling you like, yeah, in order to win 1:28:06.840 --> 1:28:09.479 the championship, you gotta no no, no, no no no, 1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:14.120 out of BENI runs that ended early and out of 1:28:14.280 --> 1:28:16.439 been in runs that were last thing standing. I know 1:28:16.600 --> 1:28:19.720 exactly what's going on and exactly how they're going to 1:28:19.800 --> 1:28:22.040 referee to you in game seven at game four? What 1:28:22.439 --> 1:28:25.400 whan I go? This is the refereeing is a is 1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:27.600 a minor thing. I'm talking about like teams. You how 1:28:27.600 --> 1:28:29.160 you're gonna play teams that what you're gonna do. Now, 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:32.760 obviously you don't have success all the time or like that. 1:28:32.920 --> 1:28:35.000 But that's why Lebron gam is going to be considered, 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:37.639 if not the goal closer to go to Michael Jordan 1:28:37.920 --> 1:28:40.080 because he's the one the most mining when the spelling 1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:44.080 in and nobody's done what he's done in the year 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:46.760 year twenty and it's not even not even it's not 1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:50.400 even a discussion. That's what I'm trying to What do 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:52.200 you think? What do you think Detroit gave Monty the 1:28:52.200 --> 1:28:54.599 biggest contract ever to try to change the culture exactly 1:28:54.760 --> 1:28:57.720 because he did the same thing. So that's why that's 1:28:57.760 --> 1:28:59.920 why I tell guys they keep saying like, oh my 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:01.800 got this guy's in leg or that guy or this 1:29:01.920 --> 1:29:04.040 coach and keeps getting the job of that guy. The guys. 1:29:04.960 --> 1:29:07.080 Once you come into the fold and you understand how 1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:09.720 hot this is, and you want people who's done it 1:29:09.800 --> 1:29:11.320 and did it again? What do you think the Bucks 1:29:11.320 --> 1:29:12.200 went and got Doc. 1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:16.120 Right because they know, well he at least you have 1:29:16.200 --> 1:29:17.160 somebody who's done it before. 1:29:17.280 --> 1:29:19.920 Who who But think about this who excelled with Doc? 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:23.280 When when that coming came in, Griffin, you know which 1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:26.439 player went crazy with the Bucks when Doc just came in, Oh, 1:29:26.880 --> 1:29:31.080 you can tell me. Bobby Porters got it? He he 1:29:31.960 --> 1:29:33.760 he said, you know what I got you? This is 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:36.320 the place we used to run. And all of a sudden, 1:29:36.360 --> 1:29:39.000 Bobby Porters became this guy who's and by the way, 1:29:39.080 --> 1:29:40.960 he should have once explained six Men of the Year. 1:29:41.200 --> 1:29:44.280 But you know, I understand it's how the leg goes. 1:29:44.320 --> 1:29:47.640 But he was a jas because they kind of. 1:29:49.000 --> 1:29:51.839 Like not because man had a few of them games 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:55.920 where you were like, should he be starting? Like all 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:57.360 due respect the cat, but there was a few of 1:29:57.400 --> 1:29:58.800 those games where he was you know, in the fourth 1:29:59.160 --> 1:29:59.400 he was. 1:29:59.400 --> 1:30:01.000 He was, he was up there. I mean, he doesn't 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:03.599 need to play there. He got handled. 1:30:03.600 --> 1:30:06.360 You mentioned refereeing a little bit, like I remember what's 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:07.880 you know, what's the name of the referee that Chris 1:30:07.960 --> 1:30:12.679 Paul hates, Scott Foster, So the Scott Foster CCP thing. Yeah, 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:15.120 I remember when like during the finals, like there was 1:30:15.120 --> 1:30:18.120 a couple of games where as Suns fans Scott Foster 1:30:18.280 --> 1:30:20.760 was on him, They're like, the fuck is that like 1:30:20.840 --> 1:30:24.640 a thing where like refs so have actual chips on 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:25.240 their shoulders. 1:30:26.080 --> 1:30:29.360 So I think people are over exaggerating about the reps sometimes. 1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:30.720 And are you guys do you guys, are you guys 1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:32.840 aware of that, like, oh, we got Scott Foster tonight. 1:30:32.920 --> 1:30:34.760 Man, he's gonna he's gonna call christ. 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:37.759 It depends, you know, some certain times you'll be like, okay, 1:30:38.000 --> 1:30:41.560 but it's not because of the referee. This is this 1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:43.400 is this is the thing that miscommunication. People have, the 1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:46.680 misconception I'm sorry people have. It's not about because of 1:30:47.640 --> 1:30:50.280 who is refeitting. Is of the style of refereeing. M 1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:54.599 that makes some guy some guy, let's let go. Other 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:57.040 guys are very ticky tacky with the whistle and you'll 1:30:57.080 --> 1:30:59.280 know that. But you know, no, it's like scouting, you 1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:00.160 scout players. Just no. 1:31:00.240 --> 1:31:02.000 But I'm saying you'll, if you pay attention, you'll know 1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:04.040 this who we got tonight. We can't get away with 1:31:04.080 --> 1:31:05.640 a lot of ship tonight or this got tonight. We 1:31:05.680 --> 1:31:06.920 could play aggressive tonight. 1:31:06.840 --> 1:31:10.519 Yes, but but then and then sends from that too. 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:14.120 Teams team start to play when you were physical. The 1:31:14.160 --> 1:31:17.320 reason we beat you, guys, was because we we had 1:31:17.479 --> 1:31:19.720 no answer for you know, because we're a team from 1:31:19.720 --> 1:31:22.439 the East bro we go through the goncelet We played 1:31:22.600 --> 1:31:24.640 very physical. We're a physical team, like who was going 1:31:24.720 --> 1:31:26.320 to grab you? Was gonna push you? What was gonna 1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:26.680 pulse you? 1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:31.920 And we had nobody on our bench that listen, our 1:31:31.960 --> 1:31:34.679 bench was in the big man's side of things. 1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:35.960 There was a lot to be. 1:31:36.000 --> 1:31:39.439 Desired for when aidon because you look, look, I got 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:41.200 to give credit DeAndre and because he had an amazing 1:31:41.320 --> 1:31:44.200 run during the playoffs, during that that whole run. 1:31:44.360 --> 1:31:47.559 You know, I'm tough on Ayden, but I mean, by 1:31:47.600 --> 1:31:49.360 the way, you shouldn't be. This kid is like top 1:31:49.760 --> 1:31:52.080 He's amazing. No, no, no, I mean I mean, I listen, 1:31:52.479 --> 1:31:54.320 I'm from like a fan perspective. 1:31:54.360 --> 1:31:57.040 You know, I wish you dunked a little more, but 1:31:57.320 --> 1:31:59.599 like I feel like that playoff run, like we wouldn't 1:31:59.600 --> 1:32:02.840 have been there with out him, and you know without 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:07.479 oh cp man and I think that, uh, you know, 1:32:07.760 --> 1:32:11.240 when we hit the buzzsaw of Giannis, it was just 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:15.439 what are you supposed to do? Because you would always 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:16.679 hear people say you got to build. 1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:17.960 A wall on the paint when you play. Honest, we 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:18.960 were finished. 1:32:19.320 --> 1:32:21.519 But I'm saying like that was during that season. 1:32:21.960 --> 1:32:24.040 Yeah, it was supposed to go the wall on the paint, right, 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:27.559 And so for us it was like once Deandre's out, 1:32:27.800 --> 1:32:31.920 what who's supposed to Who was who was our backup 1:32:32.000 --> 1:32:32.680 center that year? 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:33.680 Cominsky? 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:37.560 Oh, no, it was Frank commenced, No, but it was no. 1:32:37.680 --> 1:32:41.040 But it was Kaminsky that was going against Yannis. No, 1:32:41.200 --> 1:32:45.719 I know Daria was, but Kamensky he was dog food 1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:46.320 to your brother. 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:48.240 It was bad bro. 1:32:48.360 --> 1:32:51.240 And I love Frank Wisconsin great, He's a badger. Shot 1:32:51.320 --> 1:32:54.640 to him, a fucking great guy. Loved Frank Kaminski. 1:32:55.080 --> 1:32:59.560 But what are we talking about? Okay, it's Yannis but 1:33:00.200 --> 1:33:01.840 guarded by Frank Kaminski. 1:33:02.240 --> 1:33:06.639 But they think the miscas Simpson that it wasn't just John, 1:33:06.840 --> 1:33:08.240 It was all all of us. 1:33:08.439 --> 1:33:12.040 No, I know it was, but man, like you said 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:16.000 that Game six, everybody was off except one guy. 1:33:16.680 --> 1:33:19.799 You know, how do you defend that? You just can't. 1:33:20.240 --> 1:33:24.280 You just can't. So the thing also our game plan and. 1:33:24.400 --> 1:33:26.280 Like we were like, oh, he's coming off a injury. 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:30.240 We got this. It didn't matter. He didn't matter because 1:33:30.280 --> 1:33:32.760 that man was that his motor bros. Was different. But 1:33:32.920 --> 1:33:36.240 like our game plan apart from Yon was hey, Tuck 1:33:36.680 --> 1:33:39.519 was PJ. Right, PJ, You're gonna go on every board, 1:33:39.800 --> 1:33:43.439 every rebound, and who was guarding him? CP, You're gonna 1:33:43.439 --> 1:33:46.960 crash on ship every time you see him, crash him 1:33:46.960 --> 1:33:49.559 every time you see him, beat him up a little 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:51.800 him or the book. You remember how many times the 1:33:51.920 --> 1:33:53.840 book the book almost filed that one time they didn't 1:33:53.840 --> 1:33:57.320 even call it. The folowed up. Remember, Yeah, So our 1:33:57.400 --> 1:33:59.879 game plan was not just Young then it was Drew Holliday. 1:34:00.280 --> 1:34:03.320 When outter the two oh said Jew, he was like, 1:34:03.720 --> 1:34:06.840 I got you. He picked him up full court. Yep. 1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:10.400 Drew Holliday is one of the most underrated players of 1:34:10.439 --> 1:34:14.360 all time and quite possibly, I mean, if not the greatest, 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:18.760 a top five guard defender ever. Like you got to 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:23.479 think about him, Gary Payton, I mean, I'm told really 1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:26.120 and then you know, shout out to Kyrie and Luca 1:34:26.160 --> 1:34:27.880 got to deal with him and Derek White. Derek White 1:34:27.920 --> 1:34:30.559 is a fucking monster. And then Jalen Brown's great on defense. 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:33.120 Like, yeah, they had they had a nice game. 1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:35.639 Are you worried about having to deal with the Celtics 1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:37.640 for the next few years because it seems like they 1:34:37.720 --> 1:34:41.760 figured out something there. I guess I think just like 1:34:41.880 --> 1:34:45.120 one through seven, one through eight, it seems to be 1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:48.280 like they gotta they got they I mean they like 1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:49.960 like Jason Tatum could have. 1:34:50.800 --> 1:34:57.439 They have Charles Lee assistant coach, and they got they 1:34:57.520 --> 1:35:00.479 got Derek White, don't know, don't get me, got JB 1:35:01.320 --> 1:35:04.439 mm hmm, they got Jason Tatum and they got those 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:07.679 guys now and borzingis if he's he if he's healthy. 1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:10.400 So now again you don't call them a super team. 1:35:12.560 --> 1:35:14.680 It's close, but it is close enough. 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:19.240 Yeah, because if you think about it, Holiday all Star, Yes, 1:35:20.840 --> 1:35:24.640 JB and Tatum all stars, Porzingis All Star. Yeah, they 1:35:24.720 --> 1:35:26.040 got four All Stars and they're starting. 1:35:25.840 --> 1:35:26.519 For you exactly. 1:35:27.000 --> 1:35:28.680 But Derek White could be six Man of the Year. 1:35:28.720 --> 1:35:30.200 Could you be my favorite? When when when you when 1:35:30.240 --> 1:35:33.879 you go uh? And now the Horford experience, and Horford's 1:35:33.920 --> 1:35:37.880 wanted it experience, and and he always will just come 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:41.800 and hit a three when you're like, fucking Horford's got range, 1:35:41.840 --> 1:35:45.160 I forgot. Yeah, he got that old man range. Do 1:35:46.360 --> 1:35:49.080 the two wins away? They're two wins away. My thing 1:35:49.200 --> 1:35:53.880 is one zero, it's three zero. Want to win away 1:35:54.280 --> 1:35:57.000 to win the champ Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 1:35:57.240 --> 1:35:59.160 But to say like, but you guys are gonna that, 1:35:59.280 --> 1:36:01.040 it's it's you guys got to go up against them 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:02.559 for the foreseeable future. 1:36:02.640 --> 1:36:04.840 Yeah, it is what it is. I think the most 1:36:04.880 --> 1:36:07.400 of the most different part of this. We're worried about 1:36:07.520 --> 1:36:09.960 us clicking. We played them in the season. I think 1:36:09.960 --> 1:36:11.400 one of them wasn't playing one of the games, and 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:13.439 the other games that wasn't playing. But like, you guys 1:36:13.479 --> 1:36:15.560 got to get your chemistry right, No, there's not the 1:36:15.600 --> 1:36:17.600 chemistry we've done. We've done with that. That's over now. 1:36:17.720 --> 1:36:20.800 Now it's Bill don't do stuff. We have, Yeah, we 1:36:20.840 --> 1:36:22.479 have and now like we played that, I think we 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:24.840 played them twice, Jay, we played them twice to day 1:36:24.920 --> 1:36:31.080 this year. We played four times in Boston. But how 1:36:31.160 --> 1:36:36.639 much they beat us by? Five? Right? Four or five? 1:36:37.040 --> 1:36:38.760 And then oh no, two games to both games were 1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:40.800 by four or five, and then we beat them at home. 1:36:44.160 --> 1:36:47.840 Like yeah, one game we beat them by a lot octually, No, 1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:49.519 two games beat them by a lot. Why do I 1:36:49.600 --> 1:36:52.479 say that? But what what? What? The play I want 1:36:52.560 --> 1:36:54.680 to make is sometimes about my steps as well. I mean, 1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:56.439 you might have a great nobody's gonna guard you. 1:36:56.520 --> 1:36:58.799 Honest, that's real, that's real. Well listen, man, I appreciate 1:36:58.840 --> 1:37:02.120 you pulling on go your podcast. You haven't put an 1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:02.920 episode on a while? 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:07.719 No, I'm no, I've done some episodes. I just don't. 1:37:09.000 --> 1:37:10.200 I just don't put the mote them like that. I'll 1:37:10.240 --> 1:37:18.040 let them naturally, got it. But it's weekly every Wednesday night, 1:37:18.120 --> 1:37:20.760 Thursday morning, Wednesday Thursday morning. Yes, and I just show 1:37:21.200 --> 1:37:24.799 tap in, tune in. It's fun, nice stories. How obviously 1:37:25.080 --> 1:37:27.160 I know you're out here. Rehappened? How's your injury? Good 1:37:27.720 --> 1:37:31.240 can complain? Man? You know, I uh, it's one of 1:37:31.320 --> 1:37:34.040 those things I gotta go through. You know, Yeah, injuries happen. 1:37:34.520 --> 1:37:36.320 It happens. But the thing is what I'm gonna you know, 1:37:36.479 --> 1:37:40.240 how how do I go about it? Well? 1:37:40.280 --> 1:37:42.400 Listen, I appreciate your time, bro, Like I said, anybody 1:37:42.520 --> 1:37:47.240 like honestly, bro, like I watched your Guys documentary on Prime. 1:37:47.320 --> 1:37:49.519 Like I said, man, I got teared up. That ship 1:37:49.720 --> 1:37:53.680 was so inspiring to see everything you guys you went 1:37:53.760 --> 1:37:56.640 through to get here. So salute and thank you for 1:37:56.760 --> 1:37:59.439 being like a you know, inspiration for everybody. 1:37:59.520 --> 1:37:59.640 Man. 1:37:59.640 --> 1:38:01.599 I'm sure your inspiration for a whole damn country right 1:38:01.680 --> 1:38:03.320 now too, So salute man. 1:38:04.240 --> 1:38:06.360 Hey, thank you for having me, Yes, sir, I have 1:38:06.479 --> 1:38:09.519 the fun with the conversation too, man, Yeah, and stuff 1:38:09.520 --> 1:38:12.320 like that. Aw my pod too, of course. 1:38:12.560 --> 1:38:15.800 And then you know, uh shout to coach bud Man. 1:38:15.840 --> 1:38:17.400 You know, I just had to get some get them 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:21.120 right in Phoenix. Man, you guys are gonna love him. 1:38:21.240 --> 1:38:23.800 You know he's he's he's azy boy too. He's from 1:38:24.640 --> 1:38:25.960 you know, shouts a coach. But it's good. 1:38:25.960 --> 1:38:28.320 Appreciate you, man, Thank you, yes, sir. Fire