1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Fellow Ridiculous Historians, we return to you with this week's 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: classic episode. This is a parable cautionary tale for all 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: our fellow ridiculous historians who like to tipple a beer 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: every now and then. There is such thing as too much. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: There is, indeed on a personal level and at scale, 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: which we really start to see in eighteen fourteen when 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: a poor neighborhood in London fell victim to a bizarre 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: and boozy disaster, dare we say, a calamity that actually 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: resulted in some fatalities. What the heck was this thing 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: that happened? And how did it involve way too much beer? 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Right, let's roll it. Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. 12 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: You know. 13 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: I guess we should begin today's episode by pointing out 14 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: that it is, not, to our knowledge, sponsored by Miller LT. 15 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 2: Although we had a lot of fun with those guys. 16 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: You had the best tagline of all time. Still, I'm 17 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: really surprised they haven't like purchased this from you. 18 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: You know, it was a gift. We're just very giving 19 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: people on this show. 20 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: And that is the gift that keeps on giving in 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: social media form. And I don't know if they'll ever 22 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: give us any more ads again? But what was it again? 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: Then, Miller lt The beer is so good that you 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: can drink it with your mouth. Yeah, And I think 25 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: that we arrived at that on our earlier episode about 26 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: ritual alcohol edemas or aka. 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: You're not gonna say it, are you? You're not going 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: to say it. I tried to make you say last time. 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: That was a sore spot. But chugging is the word. 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: But chugging today, we're talking about a different kind of chugging. Chugging, 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: chugging it to the streets. Yes, yes, taking it to 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: the streets. That's well put. I'm ben oh, I'm null. 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: And we are, of course joined with our super producer 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Casey Pegram give it up for and fellow ridiculous historians. 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Our journey today takes us to the early eighteen hundreds 36 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: in foggy Old London Town October, specifically when a bizarre 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: sequence of events through the community of Saint Giles, London 38 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: into a state of pandemonium and terror. What happened and 39 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: how did this come to pass? 40 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's set the scene. He already did. Foggy 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: London Town eighteen fourteen. There's a brewery. Right, there's a 42 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: brewery called the Horseshoe Brewery which was located in the 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: corner of Great Russell Street and Tottenham Court Roads. The 44 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Horseshoe Brewery was the building. It was like this historic 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: brewery and the mew And Company brewers, I guess it'd 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: taken it over or they were the ones occupying it 47 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: at this time, and they had. They were all about 48 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: being up to the latest technological brewing standards, which at 49 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: the time were giant wooden vats secured with these iron 50 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 2: rings like a giant barrel basically, right, yeah. 51 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, these giant barrels girdled with heavy iron hoops, and 52 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: this was sort of a fad or a trend for 53 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: breweries at the time. The vats were meant to be 54 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: displayed to visitors, right, They were meant to be a 55 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: show stopping spectacle and to impress potential customers. So there 56 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: was this kind of one upsmanship contest where in different 57 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: breweries would try to build progressively larger vats and barrels. 58 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: And you just said how big these were. To put 59 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: it in another perspective, their three stores tall, and as 60 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: you said, they're built of wood with just some hoops 61 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: around them, very heavy iron hoops for structural integrity. 62 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's not forget the type of beer that 63 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: was being brewed here was something akin to a stout, 64 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: like a dark porter ale, which was very popular at 65 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: the time, and this that would hold three thousand, five 66 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: hundred barrels of this brown stuff. 67 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: And everything is fine for years, yeah, for like four years. 68 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Everything is fine until it isn't. On October seventeenth, eighteen fourteen, 69 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: in this area Saint Giles, which we should mention is 70 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: a poor area of London, several things are happening. There 71 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: is a woman named Anne Seville who is mourning the 72 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: tragic death of her two year old son John, who 73 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: had just died the day earlier, on October sixteenth, and 74 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: she is mourning in her cellar apartment. A lot of 75 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: people live in basements in this area. And then upstairs, 76 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: on the first floor of this tenement on New Street, 77 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: a lady named Mary Banfield is sitting down for tea 78 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: with her daughter Hannah, who is four. And then across 79 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: the way or nearby, there is a fourteen year old 80 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: named Eleanor Cooper at the Tavistock Arms Public House who's scouring. 81 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: Pots teenage barmaid. 82 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: Teenage barmaid. Yeah, a scullery maid at the very least. 83 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: She is by this outdoor water pump that's right next 84 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: to a brick wall that's about twenty five feet high, 85 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: and the brewery that you mentioned, NOL that you described 86 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: for us earlier is directly on the other side of 87 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: that barrier. They're famous for this porter that you mentioned, 88 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: and they produced more than one hundred thousand barrels of 89 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: this each year. It was big business. And around four 90 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: thirty pm that day, a storehouse clerk named George Crick 91 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: looks at one of these huge wooden vats and he's 92 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: looking at it from above right, and as he's staring down, 93 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: he notices something's off. One of those hoops, which weighs 94 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: seven hundred pounds, has slipped off a cask. And the 95 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: porter of that's storing is ten months old. Crick's been 96 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: with the company for almost two decades and he knew 97 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: that this kind of thing, this slippage of the hoop, 98 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: could happen maybe once to three times a year, and 99 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: he didn't think too much of it. He was just like, 100 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: sometimes things happen, were. 101 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: They not doing proper maintenance on this monstrosity. 102 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: It's hard to say. Man, you know, they must have 103 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: had to do some sort of regular maintenance just because 104 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: it's wood. 105 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I imagine that like safety and you know, health 106 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: inspections wasn't really much of a thing back in these days. 107 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: So that's probably like left their own devices a little bit. 108 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, so that one who pops off, and you 109 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: can imagine like what we're talking like maybe like eight 110 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: of these hoops for the giant cask, right, Yeah, So 111 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: that's significantly weakening it structurally, and then the other hoops 112 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: start to kind of follow suit, or at least the 113 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, it starts to weaken the entire thing. 114 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: It's like a domino effect on the rest. Right, Yeah, 115 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: that's a good way to put it. So George Creek 116 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: goes ahead and fills up the vat all the way 117 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: almost to the top, almost to the brim, I think 118 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: four inches away from the top, and this's like more 119 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: than twenty feet highway. He sees the thing pop off, 120 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: and then he's just like, ask screw it, and still 121 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: sees that it slipped. 122 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: I say, at this point, it slipped, and he told 123 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: his boss about it and his boss said that quote 124 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: no harm whatever would inceed and. 125 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Sounds like a real villainous type. I know, I can't 126 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: help a picture him as such. 127 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: And he told Krick he was just like, George, you 128 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: should write a letter to another guy who works at 129 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: the brewery and they can fix it later, but we'll 130 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: be fine for now. Don't worry about it. And then 131 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: Craik sits down and he's filled up the vat he 132 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: writes this letter, and it's about five point thirty when 133 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: he finishes writing the letter, and then he hears a 134 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: massive explosion. 135 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a massive explosion that set forth all of 136 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: those thousands of barrels of this. It was hot, actually, 137 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: because it was mid ferm Ent right, just gushing, and 138 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: it was so forceful that it actually took out a 139 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: wall in the brewery that allowed it to continue to 140 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: flood into the streets of that area describing earlier, and 141 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: not to mention that as it went it took out 142 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: the other casks that were around as well. It may 143 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: have not held the same volume total, but added up 144 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: together made for a whole nother problem. 145 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: Right exactly, So that large barrier we mentioned earlier where 146 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: the fourteen year old Eleanor Cooper is working. That wall collapses. 147 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: It kills her instantly. The sheer force of this explosion 148 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: sends bricks flying through the air across Great Russell Street, 149 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: and a deluge of beer rushes through the neighborhood. And 150 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: it's sweeping away like this an actual flood. It's sweeping 151 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: away everything in its past. 152 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, this is like three hundred and twenty plus thousand 153 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: gallons of beer. 154 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, in one that first vat alone held the equivalent 155 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: of one million pints of beer. 156 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: Jesus. 157 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: And again, as as we said just a moment ago, 158 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: that wasn't the only vat that went, and there was 159 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: no drainage. We should mention that on these city streets 160 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: there's not like a sewage system. 161 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: Have we talked about the Great Stink of London, Ben, 162 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: I think we have. Remember how nasty that city was 163 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: pre sewage system? Yeah, you know, it was just the 164 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: streets were literally really caked and human excrement. And so 165 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: this beer is washing all that along with it. People 166 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: are getting swept up in the flood. Can you imagine 167 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: the smell? 168 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: It must have been disgusting. 169 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean to think about how it smells like downtown 170 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: Atlanta or somewhere like little five Points, like after like 171 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: a weekend, you know it, it smells like pe and stale beer. 172 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Or just outside of our buildings, just outside of our building. 173 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: It's true. This must have been that like to the 174 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: mp power, and. 175 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: It happens so quickly it's difficult for us to fully 176 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: articulate how quickly this occurs. People who live in the 177 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: neighborhood are losing their minds. They're screaming zois and whatnot, 178 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: and they're hopping up on pieces of furniture. They're trying 179 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: to save themselves from drowning, which was a real possibility 180 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: because this flood was so strong and so forceful that 181 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: some of the houses that were in disrepair crumbled themselves, 182 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: so your house could fall on you. 183 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: All right, here's where it gets gross. Okay, it's already 184 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: pretty gross at this point, but a lot of the 185 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: folks were trying to, you know, make this see the 186 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: silver lining in this situation. And you know, likely they 187 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: were alcoholics because they were just like, hey, free beer. 188 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: So they would get like whatever receptacle they'd get their 189 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: hands on, a bucket or whatever, and start scooping this 190 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: stuff up and drinking it, and some people just lapped 191 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: it up off the street. And again, lots of poop 192 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,479 Speaker 2: mixed in with this beer at this price. 193 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: Lots of poop, detritus, road dirt, roadkill. 194 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 195 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: And let's also not forget that this beer was mid fermentation, so. 196 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't even done. 197 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was even like beer beer. Yeah. 198 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: So where are we at fatality wise at this point, Ben, 199 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: as this deluge makes its way through Saint Giles Rookery, 200 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: another area where I believe some of the city's poorest 201 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: were living. And this is another very sad detail here, Ben. 202 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: This happened during the day, so the men would have 203 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: been away at work, so the folks that were at 204 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: home that would have experienced the brunt of this beer 205 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: nami would have been children and women. 206 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Right exactly. Let's explore some of the fatalities. So we 207 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: mentioned the unfortunate end of fourteen year old bar maid 208 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Eleanor Cooper. She died pretty quickly, near instantly as far 209 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: as we can tell. But let's also revisit some of 210 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the characters we introduced earlier in the story. And Seville, 211 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: who was mourning again the death of her two year 212 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: old son John, was holding a wake in their basement apartment. 213 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: When the beer flood hit, they had no time or 214 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: no way to get out. So Seville, along with the 215 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: other three mourners, were all killed by this beer. And 216 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: then the couple that we had mentioned, the mom and 217 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: daughter having tea on the first floor of their tenement, 218 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: Mary Benfield and her four year old daughter, Hannah, they 219 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: both passed away. So this, this gets us up to 220 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: let's see eleanor the four mourners, Mary and Hannah. This 221 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: gets us up to seven fatalities in a matter of minutes. 222 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: But that's not all. There was one more fatality, right. 223 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: Noal, Yeah, this is probably as a direct result of 224 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: these booze scoopers that were talking about earlier that were 225 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: just you know, chugging the stuff from the streets, hence 226 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: my opening phrase, chugging it to the streets. And apparently 227 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: this last death was alcohol poisoning. Not to make light, 228 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: but you know, it's sort of like you did it 229 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: to yourself, buddy, You escape the actual delus that all 230 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: of these innocens you know, were subjected to, and then 231 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: you went, you went and drank yourself to death like 232 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: a jerk, because isn't like half fermented booze. Dangerous, isn't 233 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: it like ethanol really strong or something like? Oh? I 234 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: thought so, I know, like moonshine, if you drink it 235 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: before it's finished or something like that, it can be 236 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: really really dangerous. But I don't know if that applies. 237 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm just spit on here. 238 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: But do we know whether or not that was intentional 239 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: alcohol poisoning? You know what I mean? 240 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: Where they just trying not to drown and they managed 241 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: to not drown. Interesting but they unclear but unclear unclear. 242 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just want to just not that 243 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: they need me to defend them, but possibly, I though 244 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound too cynical about it, I'm 245 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: tempted to think it's the first idea you proposed, and 246 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: that they just drank themselves to death. There could have 247 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: been more deaths, more fatalities. It's pretty astonishing in fact, 248 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: that so few people died as a result of this 249 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: flood this uh which say earlier beer nami, Like, yeah, 250 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the worst damage does occur there on New Street, And 251 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: now this neighborhood is soaked in beer. Everything stinks, people 252 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: are covered in hot malt liquor. Three brewery employees almost died, 253 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: but they were luckily pulled from this temporary raging river 254 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and people rescuers arrived on the scene, and they were 255 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: trying with their bare hands to go through the rubble 256 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: and find anyone who was trapped inside, and they had to. 257 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: They were in a really weird situation because people are 258 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: losing their minds, wailing and screaming, and they're like, you 259 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: have to be quiet because we're trying to hear people 260 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: in the rubble. 261 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a real scene, Ben, And surprise, surprise, 262 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: this story doesn't have a happy ending on multiple levels. 263 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: On the corporate level, right on the corporate greed and 264 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: corruption level, there's some real palm greasing going on here 265 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: and some shady backroom deals that caused the responsible parties 266 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: being the brewers, to kind of get a scott free. 267 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: And remember Ben, you mentioned houses were lost, foundations were wrecked, 268 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: homes were crumbled because of this. This was that much beer. 269 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: Can you believe it? It blows my mind that it 270 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: would have kept that momentum going long enough to actually 271 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: damage people's properties. I can't even picture the sheer volume 272 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: of stinking, brown hot booze. 273 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, this does have a maybe Sobering is not 274 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: the right word for this episode, but it's funny. There 275 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: is a sobering aspect to this story, which is that 276 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: this community was largely composed of Irish immigrants and newspapers, 277 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: and the establishment at the time very much looked down 278 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: on immigrants from Ireland, and the company that owned the 279 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: brewery eventually did just find because you would think they 280 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: would take an enormous financial hit right from losing literally 281 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: all of their inventory, killing eight people, and destroying a neighborhood. 282 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: But they initially thought they were going to be in 283 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: tough times because they had already paid the excise taxes 284 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: on the booze. But somehow they got Parliament to give 285 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: them a pass and they got their money back. 286 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Not only that, they got Parliament or whatever governing 287 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: body was overseeing this thing to rule the disaster. The 288 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: collapse of this cask as an act of God, an 289 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: unavoidable act of God, meaning no mortal entity could be 290 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: held responsible and meaning no mortal got a dime, right, 291 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: And this was only two days after the flood. Jury 292 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: convened to investigate the accident, they visited the side of 293 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: the tragedy. They viewed the corpses of the victims. They 294 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: heard testimony from Crick we mentioned earlier, and as you said, Noel, 295 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: they said this had been an act of God, and 296 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: that the victims had met their death casually, accidentally, and 297 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: by fortune. I would agree with the last part. I 298 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: was definitely a serious case of misfortune. 299 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of speculation about the court 300 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: being corrupt or bribed, but there was never an official 301 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: statement made, and the brewery soldiered on for a long time, 302 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: for more than a century. It wasn't until nineteen twenty 303 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: two that it was demolished and they built something called 304 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: the Dominion Theater on part of the site. In twenty twelve, 305 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: there was a pub in the area, the Hole Born Whippet, 306 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: that began marking the Great Beer Flood of eighteen fourteen 307 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: with a vat of porter brewed especially for the day, 308 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: which to me feels like it's in poor taste. I'm 309 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: just gonna go on the record and say. 310 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: That I would agree with you on the record. 311 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: So another strange aspect of this story is that this 312 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: is this is not the only strange beverage flood. I 313 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: think do we ever mention the Great Molasses Flood. 314 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if we've done a full episode on it, 315 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: but this is definitely a parallel. It's like the American equivalent, 316 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: yeah of this, because I don't know there's ever been 317 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: another booze flood kind of like this. Because they switched 318 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: after this. This did bring about some change in the 319 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: brewing process. They changed it to concrete casks as opposed 320 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: to these shoddy, you know, rickety wooden cast But what's 321 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: the Great Molasses floods? It great as well. We were 322 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: talking off air about how it's funny when we have 323 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: a date and then the great a thing, implying there 324 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: may have been lesser versions of that. 325 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: The mediocre beer flood. Yeah. So the Great Molasses Flood, 326 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: also known as the Boston Molasses Disaster, occurred in January 327 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: of nineteen nineteen, when a huge storage tank of molasses burst, 328 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: causing molasses to rush through the streets at like thirty 329 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: five miles an hour. One hundred and fifty people were injured, 330 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: twenty one people died. And then there was the Honolu 331 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: molasses spill, which happened in twenty thirteen. So this stuff 332 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: isn't just ancient history. Luckily, no humans as far as 333 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: we know passed away in that molasses spill, but it 334 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: did tremendous damage to the maritime environment. And then there's 335 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: one other one. I just like the name. I don't 336 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: know if you've heard this name. No, I want to 337 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: see what you think about it. The Pepsi Fruit Juice Flood. 338 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: That sounds like a drink. That sounds like a really 339 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: cool band. Hey, you guys going to see the Pepsi 340 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: Fruit Juice Flood A Red Rocks. I caught him in Bonnaroo. 341 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: You know. I just I love their live work, so 342 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: they've taken a different direction on their new album. 343 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 344 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: The Pepsi Fruit Juice Flood, which I feel like they 345 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: might put out as a beverage. One day was a 346 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: flood of twenty eight million liters of fruit and vegetable 347 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: juice into the streets of a town in Russia called Lebdian, 348 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: and it was caused by a collapse of a pepsiico warehouse. 349 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: No deaths resulted from the spill, but there were two 350 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: injuries and the streets were a wash with pineapple, apricot, tangerine, grape, mango, pomegranate, apple, cherry, orange, grapefruit, 351 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: and tomato. 352 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: Juice. 353 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: So if you're going to make a commemorative drink for that, 354 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: those would be the ingredients. And I think that would 355 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: taste pretty nasty. 356 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: Right, it does seem so that doesn't seem like a 357 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: very good combination of flavors. It's like, I did you 358 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: ever drink V eight? I like vat splash, but no, 359 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 2: I did not like tomato juice. If that's what you're 360 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: asking me, what ms I drink clamato next? 361 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: Like? What what's the difference between vight splash and V eight? 362 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: VA splash has like fruit juices in it. It has 363 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: just a little bit. It hides the carrot juice in 364 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 2: the tomato juice. It's veiled. Kids like to drink it. 365 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: It's a tasty juice beverage. Well, you know what, maybe 366 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: I'll give it a shot. No, I have never tried 367 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: V eight nor V eight splash. Have I experience in 368 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: a life unlived? 369 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: No? 370 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: Man, it takes you know, you've got your path, you 371 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: got your story. You know doesn't have to include V eight. 372 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: Thanks man, And I really drink? 373 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: Do you drink other beverages that you know that I don't. 374 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't drink like uh milk, I don't drink milk. 375 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: You don't drink milk, no nut milk. I feel like 376 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: milk is an ingredient. 377 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: We actually we had this conversation before with one of 378 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 1: our coworkers, a great guy, Paul Decktt, who also has 379 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: the nickname Mission Control, and he is definitely a fan 380 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: of drinking milk. Wouldn't you say so? Casey? Absolutely, have 381 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: you guys had that conversation about milk as an ingredient 382 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: versus a beverage. 383 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I consume it as a beverage too, so 384 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm right there with him. I like chocolate milk. 385 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, same, same I used to Did you guys ever 386 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: hear the story? This has nothing to do with the 387 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: great beer flood of eighteen fourteen, but did you guys 388 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: ever hear this story of I guess the old urban 389 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: legend that chocolate milk was originally created to hide blood 390 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: clots and impurities. 391 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: Delicious way to hide it? 392 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Okay, well, Casey on the case and this ends tail 393 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for tuning in ridiculous historians. 394 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, super producer, Casey pegrum Noel my friend as always, 395 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: thank you for exploring this strange, disturbing tale. 396 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on here. It's sort of 397 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: a tale of wealth and poverty and you know, the 398 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: rich running roughshod over the poor. We sort of didn't 399 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: really see that aspect of it until the end, but 400 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: it's definitely there. And it's gross. It's gross philosophically and 401 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: also physically gross because it's hot beer rushing through the 402 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: poop laden streets of London town right washing away children 403 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: having tea parties. 404 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: I know, no one got in trouble, no one went 405 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: to jail. It's a shame, but at least it did 406 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: lead to better safety standards. 407 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: That's true. We speaking of things leading to things. This 408 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: is the part of the show where we lead to 409 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: the end of the show. 410 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: Nice segue, nod, My segue. 411 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: Game is on fire. 412 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: It's great. 413 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm really working on I've been saving that one. 414 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: You've been putting in the work. 415 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 2: Thanks Ben. 416 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: You can find us on Instagram, you us on Facebook, 417 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter, but more importantly, you 418 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: can find us and your fellow Ridiculous historians on our 419 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: Facebook community page, Ridiculous Historians. 420 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. There's some good conversation there, 421 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: some good memory, some good history, weirdness, good conversation. I 422 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: already said that all of those things you can find 423 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: it right there, go to ridiculous historians. All you have 424 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: to do is like name one of our names or something. 425 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: And even if you just like make up something clever, 426 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: we'll let you in. If it's funny, we'll let you 427 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: in totally. We'd like to thank our research associate Gabe, 428 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: who helped us out with this one. We'd also like 429 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: to thank our buddy Alex Williams, who composed this theme. 430 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Do you think he even knows that we include a 431 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: thank you to him in every episode? 432 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 2: I told him, Oh, you told him? Yeah, he nodded. 433 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 2: He's a very demure kind of dude. 434 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, what's our comic book recommendation? 435 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: Comic book recommendation for today? This one might be a 436 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: little on the nose, but I had a friend tell 437 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: me how I got the movie version of Watchmen all 438 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: wrong and how I need to go back and watch 439 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: it again. I have not done that yet, but I 440 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: really felt like it kind of missed the mark of 441 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: what that comic was all about. So I really recommend 442 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: going back and revisiting not the movie Watchmen, but the 443 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: incredible seminal graphic novel Watchmen by Alan Moore. 444 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: Watchmen I also, oddly enough, have an Alan Moore recommendation 445 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: that I was thinking about cool Providence. Providence is the 446 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: is the story of a writer who explores the world 447 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: of HP Lovecraft. It's a guy who kind of who 448 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: wants to meet HP Lovecraft and has all these weird 449 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: experiences that if you like HP Lovecraft, you like Alan Moore, 450 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna love this. That's all I can say. 451 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: See you next time, folks. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 452 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen 453 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 2: to your favorite shows.