WEBVTT - 9021 uh oh: The Polaroid Incident 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:16.400 Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast. Okay, so my 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.319 friend and OMG co star Amy Sugarman is coming on 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.919 today to Misspelling. Super excited to talk to you about life, 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:25.320 give you an update. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:27.680 How are you? How are you? 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.320 I'm I'm good. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:36.080 No, yeah, okay, before we talk about you. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.640 Yeah, sorry to Can we acknowledge that you're wearing pink 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.040 and I'm wearing green. We're ready for plan this and 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.120 we do a rewatch of nine two. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.280 Can we also all goes in the shower three minutes ago? Okay, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.880 before we talk about what everything we were going to 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.680 talk about today, can I ask you about all these 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.639 articles from last week about Kathleen Robertson. I mean, there 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.720 was a lot of lost, sick up as they say 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.640 about this incident or incidents. I don't know if it 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.039 was one time or multiple times on the set of 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:10.759 nine O two one. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.080 Oh yeah, So, oh my gosh. So I saw it too, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.440 just like everyone else, and I was like, oh MG, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.120 like this is wild. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.800 I didn't dig deep into all the articles, but I 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.479 did see the headlines talking about what happened during her 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.200 time on nine O two one oh, and I just 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.840 wondered if you've talked to her, do you know any like? 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:31.000 What was all that? 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:36.039 Right? So she did our friend Pete who does the 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.440 other nine O two one, Oh, okay, Yeah, I was wondering. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:39.160 I got it. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.160 He does another podcast called the Slice of Life, and 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:49.080 he interviewed her. So I saw all the press, Like 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.760 the press was blowing up right talking about. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.280 What were the main headlines, cut. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:59.120 Photos, polaroids from wardrobe that she found in the makeup trailer. Yeah, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:05.880 during her time there, bullying that was so harsh that 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.120 she left. That's why she finally left in season seven. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:12.480 WHOA. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.840 I sort of assumed it was in the beginning. This 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.400 is one of the reasons she left the show. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:25.240 Correct, That's what the article is saying. WHOA And I, honestly. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:26.880 I thought it was not to be funny, but I 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.520 thought it was a bad story, not to. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.200 Be fun to no. And I remember when you, me 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.000 and Jen were talking about it, saying, I said, you know, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.520 she left on her own. She wanted to go out 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.880 and do other things. I didn't remember it being because 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.440 of bullying, but I know that it was intense what 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:51.160 she came into. What you know, any female came into 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.400 on that set. But the cut of Polaroids. I do know. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:00.400 About whoa I do so. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.079 She So she. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:06.400 Just found them obviously hurt her feelings and probably was scary. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:08.560 As you can imagine. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.480 Yeah, it would be. It seems like a horror movie. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:12.120 It does. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.080 And I think she handled it really well. And she says, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.320 you know, I'm tough. I can get through it. But 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.640 it was a lot. It was the biggest show in 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.320 the world, and I was so excited to be a 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.160 part of it. She's a Canadian actress. She had come, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:28.520 you know, come to the US. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:33.799 It was her first role for years at this point. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.720 When the Polaroids were cut up. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.920 No, when she left, you would think that she would 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.200 really had, you know, become a part of the group 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:52.040 that it was, wouldn't still be going on the bullying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:52.240 No. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.080 She even says that in the interview. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:55.240 Yeah. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:56.360 Wait, go back to this. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.920 Photo the Polaroids. So I actually texted. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:04.400 Her on a couple of nights ago and I said, 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.920 you told the Polaroids story. She's like, I still have 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.279 so much anxiety. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.520 Around thirty thirty years later, she'd. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.000 Be atsd from it. She said, you know, I've never 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.920 said it. I don't I don't want that out there, Yeah, 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.200 for for that person, and I get that me too. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.880 Of course, of course, how does she know who did it? 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:28.000 Did the person admit it or she just thinks she knows? 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:33.719 Ah, there were the people in makeup, in hair, and 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.800 in wardrobe all kind of vouch for who. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.200 I guess they thought did it? 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.799 Okay, got it? And this was when she joined the cast. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:47.120 I mean, it's interesting timing because there was another story 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.279 that got a lot of traction last week about another 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.279 sort not exactly that, but on a different show. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.640 Way, tell me about that because you mentioned that in 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:58.159 our text. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.080 I mean, I don't have any inform other than Kaylee 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.440 Quoco said it in an interview, so I feel comfortable 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.920 saying that she talked about it too. But I guess 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.159 my question is why is it like that? Are people 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.560 worried when someone new comes in? Because knowing work, right, 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:17.800 I would think it would be fun when someone new 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.279 comes in, because you're like, I have to be with 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.760 these people all the time, so it would be, in 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.120 my thought fun when as someone new comes. What is 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:31.440 the motivation for people being cold or mean or on 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.799 a set? Because you hear about it so much. Here's 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.800 what I. 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.839 Think, only because I've been through it. It was really 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.200 hard for me coming on to stay by the bell, yeah, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.320 because you know, I was the new girl. It was 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.520 we were all on our teens and it was tricky, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.240 and I remember, definitely till this day. I remember who 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.920 was nice to me and who wasn't as nice. They 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:00.440 were all nice, but certain feelings. And because of that 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.000 experience I was once I was on nine o two 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.839 and oho, I was like any guest star that comes 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.760 on your male or female, I'm gonna just like run 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.839 and embrace them with open arms and be like, oh 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.240 you know. So I kept that in my mind because 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.920 you have experience, because they're all there to do. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.200 So sorry to laugh at that, but you played the 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.960 you play the biggest nerd on the safe with the 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.039 bell that like, why would any girl be like you 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.800 know what? I feel nervous about that girl. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.599 So here's the thing, is that what it comes from, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.040 I don't believe it's that. I don't know because I've 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.640 never been that girl. I've never been a bully. Like 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.400 even in real high school, I was the girl that 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.000 either are different groups. I could float to any group 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.720 and I just got along with people but I don't know. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:52.760 If it's I don't know if you feel threatened, or it's. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.880 Just is it like, who is this person coming to 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:01.400 our cool character? Or like maybe really kind of odd? 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.080 I don't I just know that I never wanted to 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.080 be that person. So of course when Kathleen came, I 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.240 was like a but then we ended up going beyond 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:10.600 them being best friends. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.840 Was the part that I find so interesting is that 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:19.440 this impacted what her decision to leave. Did she never 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.440 feel like she was truly a part of the group 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.480 or did she really leave because she wanted to go 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.480 do other things? And look, you know, the character had 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.280 kind of gone to where it was going to go. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.640 But I mean, I don't know how what did she say. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.480 When you when you don't have to reveal the text, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.000 But like, I wonder what made her just decide like 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:46.560 I'm just going to sell this, sell what tell this? 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:53.600 She's oh my god, look in my brain. I think 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.680 it's something that's always bothered her. And she's a mom now, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.160 I mean, raising two strong men, but still she wants 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.200 to set an example and be like it's not okay. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:08.760 She is a director now, you know, writer, director, producer 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.280 and working with a lot of young females and she 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.680 wants to be a real powerful figure and advocate for them. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.640 And I think she's just like I held this in 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.600 all these years, like and was like, that's what you 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.200 were supposed to do in this business. But now everyone 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.240 is kind of coming clean and talking about mental health 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:31.240 and how it is affected personally and professionally, and so 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.560 I just feel like she thought it was the right time, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.920 but it is. It's interesting to me that she's always 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.240 been so scarred by it and then oh, I would be. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.280 I mean, I think you think about things. Yeah, I 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.880 can't remember something that happened in seventh grade that I'm 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:46.400 still like. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.120 Oh, well, for sure, and then she had to repress 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.080 it all those years, and then I still think about 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.760 of course, And it probably felt very freeing for her 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:03.040 to be like this happened. It wasn't just all amazing 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.640 things on that show, yeah, because everyone's like, oh my god. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.360 And also probably when she was younger, it probably felt 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.560 like people should were like, you know, you should be 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.920 so grateful, and she was grateful, right, But so if 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.319 I'm so grateful, why am I seeming like I'm complaining 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:22.960 about bullying on the set? But yeah, but yeah. I 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.200 text her and I was like, wow, I was like, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:27.680 you revealed the story. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:28.480 I was like, you. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.520 Didn't reveal who it was. We know who it was. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.160 And she goes, no, I know, I know. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.840 Yeah, No, she does talk about your friendship in that 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.920 same interview. I do want to acknowledge that, like she 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:39.000 talks about. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:40.319 That, you have to believe. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.600 I guess at some point that people that mistreat people 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.480 that their time comes that eventually someone will speak out 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.160 and say because she wasn't the only one, so. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.800 And y'all were young. I mean, I know that's not 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:58.280 an excuse, but it's like, maybe, of course, yes, yes, yeah, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.120 just behave in when you're age and all the things 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.640 are happening. Yeah, of course, do things that you wouldn't 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.079 do ten years later, twenty years later, obviously, thirty years later. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:10.679 I agree with that. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.079 I mean, that wasn't my experience, but yes, I agree 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.080 with that. When people are young, they do things that 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.960 are foolish and come in other people's expenses, and then yeah, 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.280 years later they're like, oh, why do you. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:28.440 Have a regret from that time? Something that you wish 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.480 you could change. Interesting. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:39.000 I wish I had stood up for myself. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.520 More, or what about others and my other cousiners because 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.600 you're always the friend, but maybe you should have I 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.880 don't know. I'm not speaking for you. I'm just asking 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.040 if you have anything. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.640 I was so like, I was so Donna, like the 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.640 middleman with everybody, friends with everybody, and then you know, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.880 but I it would have. I don't feel like I 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.880 was prepared enough as a human to be able to 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.199 go to people and say, hey, this person's scared of you, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.280 and this person like maybe it would help if you 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:11.760 just talk to them more. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.400 Did they keep that kind of stuff from your dad 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.360 or would people tell him what was going on or 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.920 did they try to like don't let Aaron know. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.280 I'm not sure about that. I was because my dad 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.880 didn't ever with me want to get involved right with 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.240 other castmates and taught it and I never would tell 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.720 him anything. So now I don't think so, but I 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.400 don't know. Or maybe there were conversations and they were 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.080 like just handle it, you know, right, like handle it 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:55.280 on sex. We had producers on set at all times. Yeah, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.040 the polaroid thing was such a big thing. I have 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.960 to imagine that it him so everything they. 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.920 Knew about it. Yeah, whoa yeah, it's kind of it 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.360 seems like for some reason, I keep thinking that is 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.079 this scream? Do you know what I mean? Like it 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.079 seems kind of like a horror movie a little bit like. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.160 Oh, I mean it's you know, my brain goes there, 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:17.840 so I'm like, oh, this would make it good? 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.400 Do you hate that things like that come out now 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.000 that sort of tarnish the good parts of nine o 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.800 two one zero? Like how big it? You know? Like 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.959 I think about just still now people know all of you, right, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.560 do you does it make you sad a little bit? 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:40.000 Or or are you like it wasn't just fantasyland. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.160 I think with life in general, we tend to, once 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.760 out of it, hold on to the good parts. I mean, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.680 they say it's why we keep having children, Like if 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.360 we remember the horrid part of childbirth, we wouldn't do it. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.000 So you remember the good not the bad, or you know, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:06.080 our bodies just repress it. But yeah, the good for me, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.040 the good outweigh the bad. And I think for everyone, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:14.200 including Kathleen, she had some amazing moments there. I mean, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.160 it was our formative years. We had great times. But 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.520 I think it is important at some point to acknowledge 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.360 when things happen and are not good. I haven't gotten 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:29.400 there yet, but you know, so when you. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.400 See something like those articles, yeah, I know we kind 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:36.000 of talked about this earlier, but what do you what 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.120 does it make you feel? 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.440 I mean, I gotta be honest. I was like, good 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.920 for her, I because I know it was a big 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:52.840 looing thing in her life and for decades, and I 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.760 was like, oh, I'm glad she's talking about it. I 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.920 was nervous at first because I was like, oh my gosh, 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.600 she get a name, like what's going to happen? And 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:06.160 then she didn't, So I was proud of that. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:07.800 I kind of agree with her on that. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:15.560 Yeah, me too, me too, me too, I mean yeah, yeah, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.240 I mean I'd be scared to name my bully. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:23.320 Because also naming it, I don't know. My reaction is 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.680 like then it becomes something different than what I think 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.320 she was trying to do with it. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.280 Yes, no, I agree, I agree. And you know, it's 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:39.440 just like Jessica Alba, who when I would say her experience, does. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.760 That make you think there was some truth to what 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.080 Jessica Alba said? Yeah, yeah, but. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.040 Yes, but she wouldn't name who it was. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:51.520 No, right, But I feel like. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.200 So it put us all in a like a thing 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:59.120 because it's like, oh my gosh, wait, Like I like. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.240 I would want to what's me. It wasn't me, It wasn't. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.000 Yeah, but I was like, she knows it's not me, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:10.480 Like it's I, yeah, not our story to tell, but 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:15.320 it definitely wasn't us. So it's interesting because it's like, well, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.840 it's always consistently I mean related to the same person. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.400 So I wonder at some point is someone going to 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.320 be you know, like with the Me Too movement, going 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.920 to be call out bullies you know from their shows 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.880 or movies, and then people are going to come out 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.680 of the woodwork and be like, yes, that happened with me. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.240 What if the person and I have no idea who 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:37.760 the person is, I just want to say that I 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.760 don't know. Yeah, what if the person said sorry, like 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.000 I was young, I was dumb. Would that. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:48.840 What you just said that? 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.200 And my whole body felt good inside because it was 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.400 probably thinking about people's lines yeah, like they said, oh 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.680 my god, I don't even and maybe they don't even 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.960 recall doing it correctly correct and it's just yeah, and 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.119 this goes for it anything anything. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.440 Yeah, I think you should say sorry for things you 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.280 messed up and thank you for things when which I 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:19.480 really liked about Kathleen, she clearly said Tory was it wasn't. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:24.480 Tory was the opposite. And so you want to also 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.200 acknowledge people that treat people well. You don't want to 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.200 just be the one that's like, all this person's mean, 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.440 and I'm like that. I think people have their reasons, right. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.320 It doesn't forgive it, but you don't know what they 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:39.920 were experiencing or there's always a couple sides to every story. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.920 And I'm not saying that's the case here, but there's 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.360 always of course, oh yeah, of course, gosh that would 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.840 be Does it make you didn't make you feel terrible again, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.680 it sort of made me feel like, oh man, thirty 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:52.600 years later. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.000 No, because Kathleen and I are still friends, so we 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.440 kind of talk about it all the time, like over 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:05.920 the years. And yeah, again, it's going to happen in 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:10.280 any place, any workplace. Not everyone's going to be friends. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.040 But you all are professional and you do your job 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.480 and you get through it, and we all have to, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.280 you know, acknowledge that. And I think when we're young, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.960 we don't know, so we walk into a place and 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.959 we're like, oh my god, we're all going to be friends, 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:27.320 and it just sadly isn't the case. And as adults now, 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.639 I think it prepares us. It's like how high school 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.520 prepares us for the workforce. It prepares us to go 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.639 out and be like, okay, because you know, in high school, 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.760 you get bullied, you're not friends with everyone. It just 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.200 the way it works. And then we're like, okay, when 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.680 we're out in the workforce, we're being paid. We show 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.320 up every day, we do our job, and there's going 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.200 to be people that are super nice and friendly, and 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.320 we're going to make friends out of work, and there's 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.120 going to be people that we just don't get along with, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.040 but we suck it up and work with them. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.760 I just have a weird question. Is it a Hollywood 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.720 thing because or an on set thing or an actor thing? 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.800 Because I don't I've worked at the same I heart 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.160 for thirty years and I do not have one example 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:18.520 of anybody who has ever bullied I don't have. I 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.160 don't have one. So it's like, is more of an 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:23.159 actor thing? 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:24.280 I don't know? 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.000 Any different? 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.439 The one job I've ever had is being an actor. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.080 Do you know what I mean, or being you know, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:34.080 a producer, like doing that entertainment. Maybe it is. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.040 Other than Saved by the Bell. Had you ever experienced 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:43.639 it on any other set? I have really Yeah, maybe actor. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.479 It might be. And I've never thought of it that 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.120 way because I don't have any. 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:50.919 Saying it, but I've never had I mean, and I 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:51.280 were like. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:52.439 Troue Beverly Hills. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:52.959 I had it. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:55.480 I was fourteen. 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.240 Were they mean to you? I thought you were the 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.640 cool kid on that movie. Uh uh, oh you're the nerd. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:06.240 Because I was in you know, there's the Beverly Hills Troop. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:07.320 I was Culver City. 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.000 Oh was that your dad's movie? Or no? 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:10.639 It was not. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:12.040 You just got the part. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.199 I imagine that. You guys. I can act and I 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.639 auditioned for something and I get apart. 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.240 Right, So people were mean, do you think there was 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:22.200 part of me? 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.840 I'm not kidding. There's still trolls that I'll be like 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.080 last year when I was like, oh, this TV movie 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.000 and they're like someone's like, well, I'm sure her dad 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.000 made it. I'm like, really, rest in peace, Dad, But 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.879 you know he passed away nineteen years ago, you know 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.760 what I mean, Like pretty sure he didn't produce it. 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:42.280 I did not mean that. When I asked, I was curious, well, 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.240 do you think, because in some ways that feels method, 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.439 Like where the troop Beverly Hills was mean to the 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.960 were you in the better troop? The troop that was like, yeah, 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.400 all the badges, yes, yeah, okay, God, maybe that was. 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.560 Method method they all hung out. No, no, no, no, no, no. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:19:59.919 It's happening. 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.520 It's happened in some form on every set I've worked 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:09.680 on until I became the ringleader? Is that right? 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.040 Does the lead sort of the lead determine how the 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:13.639 set is? 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.439 Bingo? Yeah, we're coming to a conclusion here. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:23.280 Okay, Yes, God, I heard Jennifer Garner telling the most 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.320 lovely story about Matthew McConaughey. Did you see that? 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.240 No? I didn't, But she's great. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.119 She couldn't the nicest person ever. Yes, And she tells 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.439 this story. Everybody can look it up because it's not 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:38.520 my story to tell about how amazing Matthew McConaughey was. 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.119 And I almost cried. I was just like, whoa, you 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:47.359 really get how one person can determine how it goes? 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:48.080 And I get that. 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:59.919 Yeah, and you try your best It's interesting because Kathleen 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.919 and I nine O two and zero and we definitely, 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:07.000 you know, kind of I took her in under my wing, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.239 and there were others that didn't, and they kind of 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.919 did their things together in different group being because it 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:17.720 was a little cliquy me. I'm friends with everybody, of course. 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.320 And then we worked together again in Scary Movie Too. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:22.800 Oh she was in that too. 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.720 She was And we had lost touch for years just 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.800 because we weren't working together anyway. We were reunited and 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:32.800 we're like, oh my god, why did we lose our friendship? 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.840 Like just yeah, not working together and the same thing. Right, 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.120 reunited and it was like we had never left each other. 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:44.480 And then we semi started to have the same experience, 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.639 not to the degree on nine ers on that movie, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.000 on that movie where it was just like certain people 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.600 had lunch together and certain like and it was me 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.360 so me, Kathleen and Tim Curry. 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:56.560 Oh my gosh. 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:57.920 It became the best season. 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.080 Maybe people thought, oh, they're too cool, I can't have 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:01.720