WEBVTT - The Dyatlov Pass Mystery 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:13.640 dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.520 and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there, 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.040 and this is Stuff you Should Know Unsolved Mysteries Edition. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:27.600 How do you pronounced this? Diet love? Diet love. Yeah, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.120 that's how I've always pronounced it. That's what we're going with, Okay. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.000 For some reason, I always just always Oh, that's a 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.199 good one. I like that, a bit of a Russian 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:47.080 diet love playing just say get love anyway. Get Love 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.320 is the name of a famous pass in the Ural Mountains, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.200 and it was named after it turns out a twenty 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:03.640 three year old mountaineer expert outdoors person uh named um 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.680 uh Igor do out love. I always want to call 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.520 him Uri because there was like five Yuris in his group, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.560 but he was the only Igor. Yeah, And I did 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.360 not know that this pass was named for him. And 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:23.920 when I first started researching this, I was like, that's yeah, Uh, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.800 shall we tell the story? Yeah, let's people might have 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.120 you you'd heard of this before, right? Yeah? And I 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.319 believe we may have touched on this in the top 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:38.399 ten once maybe, but or a video that we did. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.119 But whatever it was, it was a little tiny, short thing. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.440 I mean we mentioned the Gary Matthias disappearance was called 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.520 the American do at Love event Ye disappearance. Um, this 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.320 is this is totally different in a lot of ways, 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.600 in most ways, but you can find kind of find 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.400 some similarities here there. But yeah, let's tell the story man, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.280 all right. So we're talking about a group of students 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:08.720 in nineteen fifty nine, early February from you're all u 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:17.480 r a l State Technical University. Go what go fighting 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:24.000 rook the hammers and sickles. That sounds good, the hammers 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:28.280 and sickles. Uh. They were all very um well acquainted 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:33.520 with camping, back country hiking, and skiing across country skiing. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.360 So they weren't a bunch of rookies out there. No, no, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.320 and that's really important, Like these people were very well 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.440 experienced with this kind of stuff. Yeah, they knew what 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.600 they were doing. And there was a group of how 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.160 many were there? Seven they're ten total? Oh tin total, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.000 nine of whom actually went into the woods. The only 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.600 person to make it out of this trip alive was 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.919 the one person who stayed back because he wasn't feeling well, 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:07.359 stayed behind the village. That was another yury yury udine. Um. Yeah, 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.000 I got a little sick and was bummed, And little 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.679 did he know that would have been almost certainly a 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.600 life saving moment for him. Yeah, he had a rheumatism 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.360 and came down with about of rheumatism and actually stayed 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.560 back in this little tiny village where they they set 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.360 off from. And to say that they were like in 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.239 the middle of nowhere is an understatement. Like they were 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.480 in the middle of nowhere, not a lot going on there, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.959 and I think like a two two plus week trip, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.440 and they were trying to get to mount or to 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:44.200 ten right, yeah, or t o They were trying to 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.160 make it to this mountain, which is a part of 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:50.360 the Ural Mountains, um. And to get there they basically 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.360 cross country skied, they climbed this, They climbed mountains to 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.800 get to this mountain. They had to camp out and 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:03.600 this this like negative thirty degree weather. Um, just crazy nuts, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.920 middle of nowhere, and they were having the time of 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.840 their lives. These students were. Yeah there, I mean there. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.240 There is footage or footage by way of photographs because 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.000 they took a lot of pictures and if you go 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.320 through and look at the um the early parts of 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:19.760 this trip, they did look like they were having a 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.120 lot of fun. They were, they were good pals. They 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:26.719 did a very adorable thing on the way they they 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.440 started making their own little newspaper about the trip, the 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.680 Evening Ordered ten where they would just it was essentially 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.440 a little fun diary, like group diary they did, but 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.920 they put it in the form of a of a 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.800 daily newspaper of their journey, which is very very cute 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.720 and sad. Yeah, And one of the one of the 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.719 ways I saw their group described was that there were 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.839 there were two girls in this group and the rest 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.760 of the guys um, but that there wasn't any like 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.880 real sexual tension or rivalries going on. That there was 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.320 like kind of crushes here there and like like like 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:05.840 humorous flirtation that kind of thing, just keeping everything real light. Yeah, 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:11.880 but it wasn't like Uri betrayed me nothing with she 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.279 wasn't name Urie hooked up with Zena. What's one of 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.920 them Zena? Yeah, there was Zena and then uh lud 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:26.039 uh lud Mia just laughing. You try it. Jerry came 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.320 and talked, you know, she minored in Russian studies. I 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.040 had no idea. Did I ever tell you? By the 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.400 time you Me and I went to visit friends in 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.680 London and we were on our way to to go 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.920 to Moscow for these the guys that I met in London, Yes, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.760 who now live in l A. Mikeldam, Oh, they're wonderful. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.599 They live in l A. Now, welcome to America, dudes. Um. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.800 But we went to visit them in London and found 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:57.080 out that Um, because Adam I think majored in Russian 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.520 studies or Russian literature. I think he's like, you you 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.120 have your visa and we're like, what do you mean. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.640 He's like, you have to have a visa to go 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.600 to Russia and we're like, I don't think so no 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.120 one said anything to us about that, and he's like, no, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.920 you definitely do. We call the airline. They're like, yeah, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.560 you don't have a visa and we're like, how did 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.680 you not You mean like a visa card, right, that's 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.080 what we thought you meant, and um, we didn't go 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.000 to Russia. I think I remember we ended up going 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:26.440 to Majorca instead. Last minute, Oh well right, We're like 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.520 this could have been way worse than it turned out. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.320 I think I remember you having plans to go to 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.280 Russia and I never heard anything. That's why we didn't think. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:36.840 I remember at some point in my life being like, 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.719 that's weird, Josh never talked about Russia, but you heard 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.400 me talk about Mayorca. Yeah, it all adds up. Now, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.480 that's that was all that trip. Interesting. Yeah, so that's 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.960 my Russia story. That's as close as I've come. That's 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.760 funny because you guys are pretty buttoned up. I know, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:57.000 we're really surprised at ourselves, you guys. Yeah, all right, 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.280 thanks for that, Chuck. I appreciate that about you being 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:04.279 buttoned up. Yeah. Yeah, that's sounds like something I would do. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.720 I don't know, that's pretty basic level stuff. I think 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.680 these people would catch that. All right. So where are they? 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:12.520 They're on the Mountain of the Dead, which I don't 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.600 believe we mentioned was the was the translation that the 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:21.360 local indigenous tribe, the Monsey tribe, called this mountain collots 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.520 Yakle the Mountain of the Dead, and the Monsey tribe, um, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.960 we'll we'll pop up later in theories. So just we're 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.480 putting pins and things. Do you remember in our magic 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:37.080 mushroom episode where we talked about like um reindeer herder 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.600 who would feed their reindeer mushrooms and then drink the 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.280 pea to trip themselves. I think I do remember that 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:50.040 that's the man. They're like Siberian um nomad's I believe, 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.760 and who know how to party. Yeah, and like the 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.360 magic mushrooms that they're shame their shamans eat and probably 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:01.680 their regular people eat too. They're very toxic um and 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.400 one way to get rid of the toxins is to 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.520 feed him to reindeer, and the the reindeers filter toxin. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.040 You drink the reindeer p and the psychoactive stuff is 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:13.400 still present in their pa. Wow. Yeah, and they think 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.960 that possibly I'm saving this for the Christmas episode. Okay, okay, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.760 so go ahead. I'm sorry that that's the monster people. Yeah, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.240 that's the monster people. So um. What they end up 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.840 doing is they decide on the night of February twod 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.520 to camp and in a decidedly sort of odd place. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.240 It wasn't so weird, but they were only about a 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.160 mile from the tree line, where they would have had 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:41.160 much better cover. Um, and it would have been slightly warmer, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.320 and it's just it makes more sense to camp in 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.480 the in the forest than out on this open ridge. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.200 But nevertheless, for some reason they decided to camp there. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.160 They think possibly because they didn't want to backtrack, because 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.200 they would have had to backtrack something to get back 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.840 to the tree line. Yeah, they would have had to 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.120 go a mile back down the slope, which means that 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.000 they would have had to go cover that mile up again. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.440 And that's what Urie. What's the guy who was his 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.880 last name uri Uton? Yeah, that's what he later said 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.280 in an interview that he he thought it was either 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.240 that that um the out love didn't want to backtrack 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.280 because he d love as a leader, remember um, or 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.360 he wanted to practice camping on an exposed mountain slope, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.880 which from what I've heard about this guy, it sounds 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.760 like something he might do. He might be like, hey, gang, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.360 I've got a great idea. We've never done this right, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.800 let's try it. And they would have been able to 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.800 quite easily. Um. They pitched. They pitched the camp. But 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.840 in between pitching camp, and this is February second, ninety nine, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:47.679 in between pitching camp and making dinner, something happened. They 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:52.360 never got to make dinner and whatever happened to them 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:58.520 happened in between that time. On February second. We'll be 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:27.560 back right after this. All right, that was quite a teaser, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:33.000 my friend, Thank you. You can talk regular now. So, uh, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.840 the search party didn't go out right away because yet 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:40.520 Loft had said before, um, hey, we're going to be 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.600 back around February twelve, or maybe a bit longer if 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.920 we are so inspired to stay out there a bit longer, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.400 which is or yeah, if it's going slower than we thought, right, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.880 which is not the I mean, nowadays people will be 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.959 a little more buttoned up like you guys and say 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.439 a little more specific maybe when you're hiking in a 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.000 place like this, but nevertheless, or have like a satellite 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.320 phone with you or something. But again, so these these 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.520 kids are in the middle of nowhere, totally cut off 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:13.880 from contact. It was we're going in in January. You'll 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.600 hear from us, probably around February twelve or so. Yeah, 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.760 But because he put a wishy washy timeline on it, um, 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.520 it didn't. It wasn't until they that anyone had any 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.679 suspicions that anything was wrong, and then not until the 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:32.160 twenty six that volunteer searchers finally found this camp. Yeah, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.080 that was much much later. So they found the camp 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.520 and right out of the gate, they're like, this is 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:42.640 a little weird. The tents seem to have been cut 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.120 from the inside out. That's a very weird thing. Not 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.160 only that their boots are here, Um, their clothes are here, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.560 their gears here, their skis, like everything they would need 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.199 it was all just abandoned at this camp. Yeah, it 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.880 looked like a left in a hurry. Um. And then 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:09.160 even even stranger from what from the official report, and 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.000 we'll see that that was like this has gone on 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.840 for so long and been open to so much interpretation that, um, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:20.760 there's a lot of taint to this legend um that 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.560 the but the official ports said that there were maybe 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.720 eight or nine tracks, the tracks of eight or nine 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.040 people around these tents, So that would account for everybody 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.679 in the party without the addition of other people being 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.439 on scenes. Yeah, and the way they left, like you said, 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.280 like it was almost as if they they went and 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.680 got in their tents, zipped them up and found um 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:48.199 a dozen pit vipers and each one because they cut 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.559 out of the tent and ran away in their underwear. Basically, 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.080 not all of them and their underwear, but you know, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.520 barefoot and with very little clothing, like as if something 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.959 inside the tent had you know, was about to kill them. Okay, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.400 that's a big, big thing. It's a weird way to 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.680 leave your camp. So these these guys are missing. Um 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.200 and they the search party that found the tent in 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.120 pretty short order. I'm not exactly sure how long it took, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.760 but from what I understand, it was the same search 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.719 they found the first two bodies, and they found these 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:27.960 first two bodies. It was the two uries Uri Kravoniashenko 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:33.400 and Uri Doroshenko. Um the third year that stayed back, no, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.280 because they were literally three euries right, three out of 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:41.960 tin right, Um, that's of them were Uri so um, 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.560 Uri Kravanishenko, I decided again because I wanted to do 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.679 better than the first time. And then Uri Doroshenko. They 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.440 were found, both of them wearing their underwear. I think 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:56.240 they were both barefoot. Um at the tree line. At 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.120 the tree line they call it the big tree. It 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.280 was a large cypress tree. Um. So they were in 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:07.920 their underwear, barefoot, dead a mile down the mountain from 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.160 the camp, which is where they said that they probably 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.960 should have camped for more cover, so very interestingly, supposedly 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.719 both of their hands were burned. I saw, yeah, I 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.680 saw that they were just beaten up, and that there 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.040 was human flesh found in the bark of the tree. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.480 I didn't see that at all, Okay, So as that 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.400 they had tried to climb it in desperation, Okay. I 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.640 did see that that they were like broken branches that 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.760 indicated climbing. I didn't see there was flesh in the bark, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.480 flesh in the bark okay. Um, So maybe burned hands 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.280 means like they were raw from climbing the tree. Um. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.560 But there was signs of a fire. Yeah, there was 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.440 like a campfire that they had built and there were 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.600 unburnt branches kind of collected by it too, right, But 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.000 they were both dead and they were the first two discovered. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.440 The two juris very weird, but nothing that couldn't be 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.000 a kound of or by hypothermia. Yeah, it was being 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.840 out there in your underwear to begin with. It was 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.840 the weird part again and like negative thirty degree weather, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:15.840 negative thirty with howling wins, so foreshadowing. Okay, Three more bodies, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:21.160 including our leader Mr dietlov Uh, They were found between 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.920 those two points between the original camp and that tree, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.360 and it looked as if they were headed back toward camp. Yeah, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.480 the way they were laid out, like imagine somebody like 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.920 kind of dying as they're crawling up a slope back 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.200 toward camp, right makes sense to me. So let's say 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.360 that they all kind of went to this tree and 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.120 then they started to head out back to camp to 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.760 maybe get their gear because they realized, we're in a 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.200 bad spot. We're all our gears up there and we're 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.120 down here in our underwear and barefoot, and why are we? 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:05.640 Yeah again, who knows? So they found um Igor, diatlov Um, Zaneda, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.640 Colma Gorva. Why am I the only one saying their 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.600 I'll say the last one rustam sloban In. Well, even 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:19.000 Jerry could have said that one. So Rustum had a 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.520 about a two and a half inch gash in his 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.440 head and a fractured skull that was very weird. It 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.120 is weird, but the doctor said that's not what this 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.160 person died from. Again, all five of these people died 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.800 from hypothermia. Even though this guy has been smashed in 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:41.520 the head somehow. So Um, the investigators are like, okay, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.960 so far, it's weird, but something happened and then all 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:50.520 these people died of hypothermia. Okay, yeah, that didn't hold 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.560 up when they finally found the other three bodies two 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.680 months later, four bodies. Yeah, in May, I think after 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.560 some of the snow melt they found they found four 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:05.600 more these in a gully down um, down slope from 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.840 the tree. So there's the tree where the first two 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.720 bodies were found. Up slope there were the next three bodies, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.360 like they were crawling towards back toward camp. And then 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.400 on the other side, down slope of the tree, the 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.840 last four bodies were found. Yeah. These This is where 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.960 it gets very strange, very strange. These bodies they were 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.760 they didn't die from hypothermia. They died of some very 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:33.000 weird uh internal injuries. Some of them, um, had their 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.280 skulls crushed. Two of them had a massive chest fractures 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:41.080 and broken ribs. UM. One of them was missing her 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:47.480 uh which one was Ludma do Nina. She was missing 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.800 her tongue and part of her mouth and face. Yeah, 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.399 they were. She was also missing her eyes, as was 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.679 one of the other people. UM. And you know this 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.320 could have been a played away. Is maybe an animal 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.680 ate this stuff, but there was no outside trauma. No, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.359 when you looked at these people, it wasn't like you 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.320 have been clearly hit very hard on the head was 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.800 a stick or a baseball bat, or you have had 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:20.560 your eyeballs pecked out by a vulture. Uh, no outward signs. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.840 They didn't find out until later on that all these 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.000 internal injuries had occurred. Yeah, one of the really strange. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.640 It was very strange. One of the doctors who examined 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.639 the bodies in the official reports said that this was like, um, 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.480 there was totally out of the capability of any human 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.400 to inflict these injuries. It was more like the injuries 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.760 you would see from a car crash, and so they 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.880 would have like crushed bones, crushed skulls, but they they 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.520 would not. They didn't have any like soft tissue damage, right, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.399 Like it wasn't like somebody like kid him with an axe. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.639 But you know, they had the injuries sustained like they 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.760 were hit by an x, but not the outward out 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.560 external injuries like they were crushed by an axe or something. Yeah, 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.040 although a lot of them were missing soft tissue, which 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.680 but no outward signs of that. That's I just can't 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.200 figure that one out. So we'll we'll, we'll, we'll put 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.080 a pin in that missing soft tissue stuff. Okay, Okay, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.280 So there was something else that was really peculiar that 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.760 has never been explained. But at least two of the 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:29.159 bodies were found um to be like the clothing they 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.040 were wearing was radioactive. Yeah, And we should point out 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.040 to that some of this clothing they were wearing came 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.680 off of the other people. I believe, some shoes and 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.159 one of the women had parts of a wolf pants 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.960 wrapped around her, so they had scavenged some of the 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:50.760 clothes from there dead I guess, or dyeing compatriots, uh 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:52.720 is the only thing people can figure out. And it 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.000 contained radiation. Yeah, but that was the only thing that 0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:00.879 contained radiation the right. The fact they were like taking 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.000 clothes from one another, that makes sense. And you can 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.840 even say that the people who weren't wearing clothes, you 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.919 can chalk that up to um something called paradoxical undressing, 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.560 which is like found and I think something like a 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.160 quarter of all hypothermia cases that you'll find the person 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:23.360 like like stripped because something in your hypothalamus goes hey 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.359 wire and you feel like your body temperature is actually 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.040 rising like you're getting hot when actually it's going down. 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.320 It's a weird quirk of hypothermia sometimes, so you can 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:37.840 even say, like maybe these people actually shed their clothes purposefully, 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:42.040 And then of course people who weren't undergoing paradoxical and dressing, 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.320 we're taking the clothes and putting it on themselves. Totally 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.160 makes sense. Where did the radiation come from? Why just 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.800 the clothing? That is beyond bizarre and it's never been 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:57.919 explained to any anyone's satisfaction. Yeah. And one more strange 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.679 ish thing, um, not completely off the charts, but like 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:06.199 I said, they found the camera film. That's why we 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.200 have all these pictures. Uh. And the infamous thirty third 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.880 frame was the last shot on this roll, which showed uh, 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.400 sort of a series of white lights or a big 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:20.720 white light against black. Could have been nothing with some 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:24.080 weird exposure, who knows. But they had the camera set 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.440 up on like a homemade tripod with the lens cap off, 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.000 like facing out, as if it were like, hey, let's 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.520 have this camera ready to take a picture of something 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.320 that we're seeing out there. Uh. And then uh, I 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.680 believe in the weeks previous to this other hikers had 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:45.560 reported seeing um like glowing orbs and glowing lights and 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.320 things like this. It was the week's previous or the 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.320 weeks after. I thought it was previous. I think it 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.640 was after or that there was another group that, well, 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.600 this has similar sightings at that time, So who know, 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.320 there was another group that was between thirty and fifty 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.400 miles away basically doing the same thing UM, that reported 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.160 seeing lights around the same time. So who knows. But 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.000 the fact and like you said, it's not off the charts, 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.200 but the fact that UM, I think it was Rustum 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.960 who had the camera but didn't have any of his 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:21.399 gear or outer outerwear, but he grabbed his camera. That 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:26.800 is pretty bizarre. Yeah. There was an investigative named lev Ivanov. 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.280 He was a lead guy, and um, he was really 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.280 into this case obviously for a while. He brought a 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.640 Geiger counter along that apparently just kind of spiked when 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.480 he was ever around. He was the one who discovered 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.360 that there was radio activity at all. Um. But they 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:46.480 officially closed the case like a month later or something, 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.879 and they said it they listed the causes of death 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:54.240 as a compelling natural force that they could not overcome. Yeah, 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:58.679 that's a really vague, creepy statement. Yeah, so that was 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:01.600 that was Another thing that really raised everyone's suspicions was 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:07.560 the investigators came in within three weeks of i think, 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.440 finding the last bodies who again had not died from hypothermia, 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:16.240 but had died from really bizarre, massive internal trauma. They 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.280 closed the case on it, put it under lock and 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.040 key um filed it away as classified and kept anyone 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.399 from the area for the next three years, just closed 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.840 off the area for three years. And it wasn't until 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:32.320 like the early nineties that these files were opened again. 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.320 And so the fact that that they had been you know, 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:41.040 classified actually in Soviet Russia was not that bizarre. They 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:45.320 just classified everything, But it was strange that when they 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:49.359 declassified these things after the Soviet Union is all that 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:53.000 they were like big chunks of these files just totally missing. 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.000 So who knows, maybe they got misplaced over time. But 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:59.280 when you add up all this stuff, the official investigation 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.399 being hurry eat and then classified and then parts missing 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.240 later on um that that is a little weird. It 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.440 does suggest to a lot of people that the Soviet 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.440 government either knew something, found something, or had some sort 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.159 of role in this that they didn't want everyone to 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.840 know about. Do we take another break, Yeah, all right, 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.439 we're gonna come back and talk about some of the 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.840 leading theories and debunk some of them right after this, 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.320 All right, did we mention that two groups of people 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:55.280 reported flying objects were just the one I only knew 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.520 about one? Yeah, there were two groups of people. Uh, 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.959 one that we're camping nearby, about thirty miles away, and 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:07.080 then um other reports in that month had been reported 0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:12.480 orange balls of fire. And here's one direct quote, goodness gracious, 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.120 this is in from the written testimony. One person said 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.639