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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there,

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Speaker 1: and this is Stuff you Should Know Unsolved Mysteries Edition.

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Speaker 1: How do you pronounced this? Diet love? Diet love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how I've always pronounced it. That's what we're going with, Okay.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, I always just always Oh, that's a

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Speaker 1: good one. I like that, a bit of a Russian

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Speaker 1: diet love playing just say get love anyway. Get Love

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Speaker 1: is the name of a famous pass in the Ural Mountains,

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Speaker 1: and it was named after it turns out a twenty

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Speaker 1: three year old mountaineer expert outdoors person uh named um

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Speaker 1: uh Igor do out love. I always want to call

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Speaker 1: him Uri because there was like five Yuris in his group,

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Speaker 1: but he was the only Igor. Yeah, And I did

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Speaker 1: not know that this pass was named for him. And

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Speaker 1: when I first started researching this, I was like, that's yeah, Uh,

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Speaker 1: shall we tell the story? Yeah, let's people might have

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Speaker 1: you you'd heard of this before, right? Yeah? And I

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Speaker 1: believe we may have touched on this in the top

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Speaker 1: ten once maybe, but or a video that we did.

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Speaker 1: But whatever it was, it was a little tiny, short thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean we mentioned the Gary Matthias disappearance was called

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Speaker 1: the American do at Love event Ye disappearance. Um, this

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Speaker 1: is this is totally different in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: in most ways, but you can find kind of find

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Speaker 1: some similarities here there. But yeah, let's tell the story man,

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Speaker 1: all right. So we're talking about a group of students

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, early February from you're all u

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Speaker 1: r a l State Technical University. Go what go fighting

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Speaker 1: rook the hammers and sickles. That sounds good, the hammers

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Speaker 1: and sickles. Uh. They were all very um well acquainted

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Speaker 1: with camping, back country hiking, and skiing across country skiing.

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Speaker 1: So they weren't a bunch of rookies out there. No, no,

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Speaker 1: and that's really important, Like these people were very well

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Speaker 1: experienced with this kind of stuff. Yeah, they knew what

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Speaker 1: they were doing. And there was a group of how

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Speaker 1: many were there? Seven they're ten total? Oh tin total,

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Speaker 1: nine of whom actually went into the woods. The only

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Speaker 1: person to make it out of this trip alive was

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Speaker 1: the one person who stayed back because he wasn't feeling well,

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Speaker 1: stayed behind the village. That was another yury yury udine. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a little sick and was bummed, And little

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Speaker 1: did he know that would have been almost certainly a

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Speaker 1: life saving moment for him. Yeah, he had a rheumatism

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Speaker 1: and came down with about of rheumatism and actually stayed

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Speaker 1: back in this little tiny village where they they set

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Speaker 1: off from. And to say that they were like in

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Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere is an understatement. Like they were

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Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, not a lot going on there,

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Speaker 1: and I think like a two two plus week trip,

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Speaker 1: and they were trying to get to mount or to

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Speaker 1: ten right, yeah, or t o They were trying to

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Speaker 1: make it to this mountain, which is a part of

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Speaker 1: the Ural Mountains, um. And to get there they basically

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Speaker 1: cross country skied, they climbed this, They climbed mountains to

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Speaker 1: this this like negative thirty degree weather. Um, just crazy nuts,

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, and they were having the time of

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Speaker 1: their lives. These students were. Yeah there, I mean there.

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Speaker 1: There is footage or footage by way of photographs because

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Speaker 1: this trip, they did look like they were having a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. They were, they were good pals. They

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Speaker 1: Evening Ordered ten where they would just it was essentially

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Speaker 1: a little fun diary, like group diary they did, but

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Speaker 1: daily newspaper of their journey, which is very very cute

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Speaker 1: and sad. Yeah, And one of the one of the

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Speaker 1: of the guys um, but that there wasn't any like

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Speaker 1: real sexual tension or rivalries going on. That there was

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't like Uri betrayed me nothing with she

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Speaker 1: wasn't name Urie hooked up with Zena. What's one of

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Speaker 1: uh lud Mia just laughing. You try it. Jerry came

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Speaker 1: and talked, you know, she minored in Russian studies. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea. Did I ever tell you? By the

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Speaker 1: studies or Russian literature. I think he's like, you you

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Speaker 1: have your visa and we're like, what do you mean.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you have to have a visa to go

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Speaker 1: to Russia and we're like, I don't think so no

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Speaker 1: you definitely do. We call the airline. They're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't have a visa and we're like, how did

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Speaker 1: you not You mean like a visa card, right, that's

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Speaker 1: what we thought you meant, and um, we didn't go

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Speaker 1: to Russia. I think I remember we ended up going

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Speaker 1: this could have been way worse than it turned out.

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Speaker 1: that's weird, Josh never talked about Russia, but you heard

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Speaker 1: me talk about Mayorca. Yeah, it all adds up. Now,

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Speaker 1: my Russia story. That's as close as I've come. That's

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Speaker 1: funny because you guys are pretty buttoned up. I know,

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Speaker 1: we're really surprised at ourselves, you guys. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: thanks for that, Chuck. I appreciate that about you being

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Speaker 1: buttoned up. Yeah. Yeah, that's sounds like something I would do.

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Speaker 1: these people would catch that. All right. So where are they?

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Speaker 1: They're on the Mountain of the Dead, which I don't

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Speaker 1: believe we mentioned was the was the translation that the

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Speaker 1: local indigenous tribe, the Monsey tribe, called this mountain collots

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Speaker 1: Yakle the Mountain of the Dead, and the Monsey tribe, um,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll pop up later in theories. So just we're

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Speaker 1: still present in their pa. Wow. Yeah, and they think

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Speaker 1: um uh sveed lost UM that that he reported that

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00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: some of them were kind of orange tanned, like weirdly tanned, UM,

427
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: and that their hair was gray. So a lot of

428
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: people said irradiated. They were I radiated by UFOs or

429
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: missile tests or something like that. UM, you can actually

430
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: kind of explain the weird tanning. And I've seen a

431
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: picture of one of him at the morgue UM as

432
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: they were mummified. It was probably one of the members

433
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: of the group who wasn't found until May, and they

434
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: were partially mummified by the by the exposure to the

435
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: snow for you know, weeks or months. That was probably

436
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: explained that. Yeah, that makes sense. Um, they were on

437
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: the pathway apparently for what's called our seven intercontinental ballistic

438
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: missile launches. But um, it just didn't hold water with

439
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: the radiation only being in their clothes. Yeah, that's very weird.

440
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: That's like the one thing that doesn't quite add up. Yeah.

441
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: Another explanation for them becoming irradiated is that, yes, they

442
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: were near a nuclear missing missile testing site and that

443
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: they drank um melted snow. But again, why would just

444
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: their clothes, why wouldn't they become irradiated? I don't know,

445
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: or anither gear or the tent or anything what else.

446
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: We got another one, and this is the most people

447
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: who claim to be sensible say, this is the explanation

448
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: that it was sure that it was an avalanche, That

449
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: an avalanche came down the slope because they were, you know,

450
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: camping out on a mountain ridge face of a mountain,

451
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: um and that an avalanche came and they knew it

452
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: was coming, so they cut open their tent and fled

453
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: into the night and then got caught by hypothermia and died.

454
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Makes sense. I mean that would get most people, especially

455
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: an experienced group of mountaineers, out of their tents pretty

456
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: quick by cutting through it. Cutting through it. Maybe the

457
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: thing is is it doesn't explain why some of them

458
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: but not all of them, had massive trauma. And again

459
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: it certainly doesn't explain the radiation at all or the

460
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: missing tongue. Yes, that was another one which was never found,

461
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: by the way. No, so the missing tongue I've seen.

462
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: I saw that it was removed while the girl was alive.

463
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Her name was lud mia um so when

464
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I saw that. But then I also saw that she

465
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: had been found near a creek, and that it's possible

466
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: that it had just like like basically melted away from

467
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: the water the action of the water. Here's the problem,

468
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: this is the official report was kept under seals for decades,

469
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: and conjecture was added. You don't know at this point,

470
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: who who to believe. There's so many sites out there

471
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: dedicated and there's a twelve year old reporting from the

472
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: funeral like that's that's the only like documentation we have

473
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: of what they looked like. His name actually is um

474
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: Uri Kuntsevich, another another Yuri, and he was he was

475
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: that that twelve year old child. He became kind of

476
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: obsessed with it, and he set up the diet lave

477
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: Um Museum in the Diet Law Foundation and basically just

478
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: keeps the whole thing alive and is trying to get

479
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the government to kids in the case that kid. Yeah,

480
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: well so you really really stuck to it. He's really

481
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: taken advantage. What else you got for theories? Well, you

482
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: know that tribe, the Monsy tribesmen, there is a theory

483
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: that they attacked them, um, but nothing about that holds water.

484
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: They didn't have any footsteps in the snow. There were

485
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: our footprints. There were peaceful people by all accounts, had

486
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: never done anything like that. There was no reason to

487
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: do anything like that. So just go ahead and discount

488
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Animals attack

489
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. Same. Yeah. The other thing

490
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: that that the other reason the avalanche theory doesn't necessarily

491
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: hold up is there wasn't necessarily any evidence of an

492
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: avalanche having covered up the thing well in the tent. Yeah,

493
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: it would have swept that tent away and all the

494
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: gear probably right or covered it up. Yeah, what else

495
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: high winds. There's one theory that maybe one of the members,

496
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: maybe one of the euries, went out to pp and

497
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: a win swept him away, and everyone else like ran

498
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: out to look for him. But um, this article you

499
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: found where they're kind of debunking some of the stuff said,

500
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: you know that it doesn't make much sense that all

501
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 1: these experienced people would have behaved this way and just

502
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: ran out in their underwear. You know, it would have

503
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: been a little more of a organized, sensible effort if

504
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: that had happened. Yeah, you really can't. Can't um overstate

505
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: that the level of experience and the combined um like

506
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: the group that they formed was like greater than the

507
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: sum of its parts. So yeah, they wouldn't have it

508
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been amateur like that. The one that and

509
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: this is the kind of the new fringe e semi

510
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: scientific explanation and I find just fascinating is the infrasound one. Yeah,

511
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about infrasound and one of our episodes,

512
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember which one. I can't remember which one,

513
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: but um, this is uh, it's a phenomenon where, when,

514
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: and in this area. They said that this definitely could

515
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: have happened where wind collides with the mountain and the

516
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: trees and everything and produces this low frequency range sound

517
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: that has been known to inspire panic and dread, confusion, beer,

518
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: all the things that would kind of add up in

519
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: this case. Right, So there's like this really weird. Um,

520
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: it's very tough to figure out whether that's actually real.

521
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: Like if you look at the science, the scientific literature

522
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: behind it, there's some but more often than not, it's

523
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: just some somebody claiming on their website that this is real.

524
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: This the literature is not necessarily there, but that's not

525
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: to say that it's just totally made up. It's like,

526
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: the the studies of this stuff hasn't caught up to

527
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: the some of the claims on the internet. But supposedly

528
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: there is from wind vortices. They could have produced it

529
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: on this on this mountain, right, these little your tornadoes

530
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: that would have spun up could have um produced these

531
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: sounds that is below human hearing, the level of human

532
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: hearing like a full octave below, but can supposedly produce

533
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: these weird behaviors that make people freak out. That would

534
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: explain everything. It would accept the tongue right, and I

535
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: guess the injuries sure so illustrating. I've seen other ones

536
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: to like, Um, there was a guy and we we

537
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: need to mention him a little more. Um. His name

538
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: was Simon Zelodov Zlotaryov. Man. This has been tough. His

539
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: name was Simon Zelotaryov. He was thirty eight. He wasn't

540
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: a member of the group. He was as he was

541
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: a add on towards the end who was out there

542
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: with another group that he couldn't get coordinated. So he

543
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: ended up saying like, hey, can I come with you guys?

544
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: And at first apparently the group was not all that

545
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: happy about him being there, but from what I understand,

546
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: he really kind of earned his place in there. Um.

547
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: For a while, people were like, who was this guy?

548
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: This is a mystery dude. Maybe the KGB was involved,

549
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he was KGB. He was definitely ex military. Um.

550
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: But they and they actually exhumed him to find out

551
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: if the person who was buried in his grave as

552
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: him was him, and they did a they did, like

553
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: a skull. They took a picture of his skull and

554
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: superimposed it under a known picture of him. Supposedly it

555
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: was a perfect match, but then they took the extra

556
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: step of um comparing the DNA of the corpse in

557
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: the grave with the DNA of a known relative, and

558
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: it does not match. Okay, I saw that. I didn't

559
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: know that's who that. I didn't know. He was a

560
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: non Uh. He wasn't an original member of the good.

561
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't in the in the club. So that so

562
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: some people are like, there's KGB was in on this

563
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: or he had something weird to do with it. It

564
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: was a little weird for sure. And he was one

565
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: of the ones who suffered um internal broken or broken ribs,

566
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: obviously internal. And he also became the editor in chief

567
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: of their daily paper. It's very strange. He's like, if

568
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: it bleeds, it leads, print it. Uh, you got anything else?

569
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 1: Oh man, we could do this for hours, but now

570
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: and if you have, if you're obsessed with the diet

571
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: love incident, Um, we want to know what we got

572
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: right and what we got wrong. Anything you want to specify,

573
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: We're happy to hear. Yeah, And I think um we

574
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: just officially became the three podcast to cover this topic.

575
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully we did it some justice. If you want to

576
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: know more about the diet love past incident. You can

577
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: type those words into while the Internet and it will

578
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: give you all sorts of crazy stuff. And say, I

579
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: said that it's time for listener mail. Alright, So this

580
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: one is a bit long, but this is a Josh request. Oh,

581
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: this one's good. It's a mystery. It is a mystery.

582
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: And this is from Corey and Enjoysy City. Hey, guys,

583
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: at the open of your recent episode on Tsunamis, you

584
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: both expressed disbelief that the topic had never been covered.

585
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: In fact, you guys both said you could have sworn

586
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: you'd already covered it, and you each went back multiple

587
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: times to check. Even after checking three times, you both

588
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: admitted to being quote paranoid end quote that it had

589
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: somehow been done before. And just like you guys, I

590
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: was surprised to find out it had never been covered

591
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: and began to wonder why I had fuzzy memories. So

592
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: I did a little digging re listening to old episodes

593
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: on similar topics. That turns out the three of us

594
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: are not the only ones convinced of this existent episode.

595
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: The existence of this episode Apparently the two thousand fourteen

596
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: episode of stuff you should know. Josh and Chuck also

597
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: believed in the existence in the Rogue Waves episode, right correct. Uh, Yes,

598
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: and the September show about Rogue Waves. At about twenty

599
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: minutes in, Chuck says, and I'll do this as Chuck.

600
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: One of the last things we should cover, USh is

601
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: the difference between rogue Waves and tsunamis. But we've already

602
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: done an episode on tsunamis. And Josh, that was a

603
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: great appreciate that I've been worring on it. H And

604
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: at this point Josh chimes in to confirm the existence.

605
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: You want to confirm it, as Josh. Uh, my name

606
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: is Josh, and I'm confirming the existence of that episode.

607
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: I think it's what I said roughly, I think so.

608
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: And you guys go on to cover the topic quickly,

609
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: seemingly in agreement that an in depth explanation isn't necessary

610
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: since it already existed. Man, this opens the door to

611
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: many questions. Guys, did any listeners right in after Rogue

612
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Waves to ask where the tsunami episode was Corey, I

613
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: don't remember. Surely. With so many listeners who take pride

614
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 1: in having listened to every episode of the show, someone

615
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: should have noticed. I agree. Why were you guys so

616
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: convinced of the existence of the tsunami episode and Son fourteen?

617
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, Corey, wouldn't Jerry notice? Well that's a no. Uh.

618
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: Is it possible that the lost episode on Tsunamis was

619
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: the tipping point for a sequence of events leading to

620
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: a doomsday scenario and humans from the future were forced

621
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: to travel back in time in order to try and

622
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: expunge it from the historical record. It's possible, Corey. That's

623
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: where my money is. Yeah, but why what did we

624
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: say in there that was so ghastly that it could

625
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: have brought about the end of humanity? I don't know.

626
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: There's no way to find out either because it's been

627
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: expunged by the future people. So again, Corey from Jersey City,

628
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: one of my favorite places. Thanks Corey. Our our buddy

629
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: John lives there. Oh no, he lives in Hollboken. Where's

630
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: the Jersey City? Who shout out to John Bendell? Either way? Oh? John,

631
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: Hey John? He looks at Manhattan out of his window.

632
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: I know that that could be anywhere. That's true. Um, yeah,

633
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: you might be thinking of Brooklyn. No, thanks a lot, Corey.

634
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: That was a fantastic email, so much so I just

635
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: kept pressuring Chuck to read it, and he did, and

636
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: I think worked out well as we can all agree, right, Yes,

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