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Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: now running. Hey, hey, Lana in the car your service.

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Speaker 1: You know, we just kind of roll along and do

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Speaker 1: you're new to this show, so thanks for stopping by

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Speaker 1: the garage. I was gonna talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: order to keep Tom Colm. Let's get over to Bill

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Speaker 1: in Michigan and kick the garage doors right open right away. Bill,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir, I hope you've been Well, it's been

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Speaker 1: a while, my friend. How can I help you today? Well,

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Speaker 1: first thing I checked, cooling system is good, coolant level

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Speaker 1: recalibration procedure that's supposed to reset where the actuator positions

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Speaker 1: I replaced the actuator, I replaced the heater controls. None

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Speaker 1: How are you calibrating it prior? Uh, there's a procedure

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Speaker 1: I am getting good heat into the heater core and UM.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not dispute in your James. If it could

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Speaker 1: very welcome. You have a good rest of the day.

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Speaker 1: go to Albert in Minnesota. Eleven Hunday. Hey, Albert, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, Sir. How can I help Albert? Yes? Albert, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: yak ahead? What kind of hunday is this? Albert's Sonata. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Ivy and Louisiana. Ivy, welcome a board. How can I help? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: the gray red. All right, if you've got power across that.

425
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: The only wires that were left were the signal generators.

426
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: All right, There's there's gonna be a dark blue white

427
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: and a light blue white, and they basically produced a

428
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: square wave signal. I believe this is the fast start

429
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: three eight correct. This has to trigger wheels. Does the

430
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: crank center have one slaughter two right? It's got the

431
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: three times right? Because this is a this is a

432
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: this is what they called the fast start three eight that.

433
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: I believe the injection on this is sequential if I

434
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: remember right, going back, Um, so let's do that. Can

435
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: you do that and call me back? And then also

436
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: make make sure there's gonna be a pink wire UM

437
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: at the ignition module on pin P. Find pin P

438
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: at the ignition module, make sure it's got twelve vaults,

439
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: key on and cranking, and then make sure this morning

440
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: i'd checked us to make sure that we had power,

441
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: and uh, it does. But I need to see if

442
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm getting a signal from the trank sensor. Right, that's

443
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: what we're looking for. We're looking to see if you

444
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: had a lab scope. We should be able to tap

445
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: into UM. We should be able to tap into the

446
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: dark blue white and the light blue white. We should

447
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: be getting a zero to five old square wave. One

448
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: will have more one will have more of a signal

449
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: than the other because one's the three times signal. One's

450
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: the eighteen times signal. But that's basically where you're at.

451
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, all right, Well we'll we'll check the

452
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: signals there and we'll get the call back. That's perfect.

453
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: You do that, all right, don Good luck to you. Yes,

454
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: keeping coasted. You're very welcome. Let's pull over and take

455
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Speaker 1: a pause. Five zero the car doctors coming back right

456
00:25:48,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: after this doctor service at zero. What a busy couple

457
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: of hours. So we had a two thousand, fifteen four

458
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: and f three fifty in the shop this week and

459
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: the local landscape company had brought it in their Their

460
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: guy couldn't resolve the left side low beam didn't work.

461
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right up front now, full transparency

462
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: fixed the vehicle. The there's gonna be a video. We're

463
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: gonna post it up on the Facebook page via via

464
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: r YouTube channel. Shortly sometime this week. I'm working on

465
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: the edit because I had to shoot the video in

466
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: two steps. And you know, the ball didn't work. The

467
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: left I left low beam didn't light up. Where do

468
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: you start the diagnosis with a code scan? Yeah, with

469
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: a code scan for a for a ball that doesn't work, Okay,

470
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: and it came out with the left low beam drivers

471
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 1: circuit was recording a short to ground. And what they

472
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: do is the body computer on this particular truck, because

473
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: everything is controlled by a computer today. To turn the

474
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: headlights on, it looks for an input request from the

475
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: headlight switch and then it turns on either high beam

476
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: or low beam. The body computer, the BCM, located in

477
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: the right kick panel, which is also a fuse block

478
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: of power distribution center, saw the short and turned off

479
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: the driver so it doesn't damage the BCM. Listen, what's

480
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: the car company's obligation. They're trying to put a product

481
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: out there that doesn't break, and if they can put

482
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: safeguards in it to prevent the computer from destrug destroying itself,

483
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: they will. So this vehicle had had a plow harness

484
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: on and a wiring harness a plow harness, and you know,

485
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: in my mind twenty eight thousand miles, I've got a

486
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: hard time buying that a factory harness is going to

487
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: be an issue. So I ended up disconnecting the factory

488
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: harness from the plow harness and made it factory only

489
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: on the left side. Problem went away, No more dead

490
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: short connected the plow harness back up problem. Started looking

491
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: at the plow harness and I noticed that, you know,

492
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: I just happened to brush up against the connector between

493
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: the low beam factory harness and the low beam plow harness,

494
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: and it felt warm. I got out my thermal imager.

495
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: I love, I love playing with my thermal imager camera.

496
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: It's the best thing. It's so neat. And I looked

497
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: at the thermal I looked at the thermal image, a

498
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: temperature image of the left side low beam connector. It

499
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: was five some odd degrees. The right side was sixty

500
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: eight degrees. And as you look at it, you can

501
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: actually see it start to glow in the picture. You'll

502
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: see this in the video. I gotta get it up

503
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: there soon, and you can see how warm this thing is.

504
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Pulled it apart and there's there's corrosion on the inside

505
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: of the connector. Not a lot, just enough spliced in

506
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: a new three way connector, a three way harness, weather

507
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: proof put all together. Hey, what do you know? It's fixed?

508
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: And I guess the point becomes repairs are going to continue,

509
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: as they've started to appear in the weirdest possible ways.

510
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: The things that you would never you know, twenty years ago,

511
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a driver's circuit causing the light, not

512
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: the light because the circuit had a had a voltage

513
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: drop problem or a voltage lost problem. It just wouldn't

514
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: be that way. As we go into the computer age,

515
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: it's um, it becomes more of an issue. So just

516
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: something to be aware of. All good diagnosis is begin

517
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: with the scan. Let's get over to Donna in Binghamton,

518
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Oh six Lincoln and some problems with the dead battery. Donna,

519
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? Hello? Yes, yes, Um,

520
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: we've had this corring for six years two thousand and six.

521
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Lincoln's effort. Um, the battery goes completely dead. Um. It

522
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: only happens when you first go out to start it,

523
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: like in the morning. If I go stop and stop

524
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: and start, it's fine, right. It might go for you know,

525
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: a month or so, and that happened that that might

526
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: happen like every other day. And the problem is that

527
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: it's intermittent, right, it's you know, you never you never

528
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: know when it's gonna happen, you know. And and this

529
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: is one of the hardest cars to fix. It really is,

530
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, just because if you can't reproduce it. You

531
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: know what a mechanic can do is he can start

532
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: to look at some of the trouble spots. He can

533
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: obviously look over the wiring harness it's fifteen years old,

534
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: and look to see, you know, things like does the

535
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: glove box door closed properly? Does anything with a light

536
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: bulb attached to it closed properly? I would also look,

537
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: because this is a Ford product, I would I would

538
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: scan this before the next time it goes dead, looking

539
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: particularly and listen to what I say. There's a module

540
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: on this car. I'll call it the gem module. Ford

541
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: might call it a body module. But the door switches

542
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: on these cars are known to go bed maybe not

543
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: an yeah, maybe not enough to turn on the interior lights.

544
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Have you let me ask the question this way. Have

545
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: you ever looked outside or in the garage at night

546
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: where this car has parked. Do you notice the interior

547
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: lights on? Oh? No, all right, it wouldn't hurt to

548
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: start a diagnosis with or do it? Does it show

549
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: any reported problems with any of the door switches? Okay?

550
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Because and you won't know that a mechanic is gonna

551
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: have to start to diagnose this. All right, this is

552
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of an abstract repair. We have to

553
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: start to think outside the box we're looking for. We're

554
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: looking for a door switch that's possibly leaving a light on,

555
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: a trunk switch, leaving a light on, a glove box switch,

556
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: leaving a light on, you know, and and and the

557
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: problem is going to be that it's so random and intermittent. Alright.

558
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: The the other thing I would encourage you, and I

559
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: guess what he could do is, if your mechanic has

560
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: the ability, have him look at a wiring diagram. There's

561
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: going to be multiple ways that that vehicle powers up

562
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: through the underhood fuse box or the ignition switch. If

563
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: and what I'm getting at is if he could tap

564
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: a bulb, wire in a bulb and socket into the

565
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: circuit that powers the vehicle. Yeah, if the bulb is

566
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: lit when the key is off, that means the drain

567
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: is occurring. Makes sense. So basically, if he wires it incorrectly,

568
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: every time Donna turns the car off and walks away

569
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: with the keener pocket after the vehicle times out, depending

570
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: upon what the time out sequences on this car, that

571
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: bulb would be out. But if if it if it

572
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: happens where you walk away one day when that bulb

573
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: is lit, even dimly, that's the day. The next day

574
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna come back in, that battery's gonna be dead.

575
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: You've got that car causing the problem right at that moment. Yeah,

576
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: they got to look at the wiring. They've got to

577
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: look at this car for an intermittent draw. They've got

578
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: a skin and codes looking for open door or trunk switches.

579
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: And consider, you know, not knowing the car, how much

580
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: stuff is in the glove box. Could there be something

581
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: holding the glove box slightly bulged open causing the light

582
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: to come on with a vibration or with a twist

583
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: or a turn. All right, But somebody put their their

584
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: phone in there to see if there was any lights

585
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: staying on and he said no. Well right, but maybe

586
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: at that moment there's no problem. Right. The trick is

587
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: catching it in the act and and and and that's

588
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: the hard part. That's why I say using the bulb

589
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: method will alert you when the problem is happening, because

590
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: you won't know the problems happening until after the battery

591
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: is dead, and at that point the damage is done.

592
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: We've got to get ahead of it, using a bulb

593
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: to monitor the live circuits that should get turned off

594
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: when the vehicle is being put to sleep. When that

595
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: bulb is illuminated the problems active, that's the time to

596
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: get it to the repair shop. Try that. Don If

597
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: your mechanic has any questions, either have them call me

598
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: or listen to this podcast, this radio show once it

599
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: becomes a podcast within the next twenty four hours at

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00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: Ninian The Car Doctor. I'm Ronininian. I'll be back right

601
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back on any of the Car Doctor.

602
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: You know, if if I send you home with with

603
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: with with any one particular thing this week, it's that

604
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: you've really got a diagnose and and and take the

605
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: time to look at the problems as they come up. Well.

606
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: By the way, Tom just sent me a note for

607
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Ivy in uh. I think it was Arkansas or Alabama.

608
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: Tom just sent me a note. He did some research

609
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: when we were all fair bear Mark B E A

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00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: R M A C H. Bear Mark dot com looks

611
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 1: like they are a provider of older land and Range

612
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Rover parts. So Ivy, if you're listening um bear Mark

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00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: B E A R M A C H bearn Mark

614
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: dot com take a look at that. See if that

615
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: doesn't for you, If I send you home with any particulars,

616
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: it's gotta be that you've gotta diagnose. I mean, we

617
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: talked about diagnosing entire pressure sensors, we talked about diagnosing

618
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: wiring problems. We talked about diagnosing crime. And if you notice,

619
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: it's all diagnosing research. I was reading all that of

620
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: news this morning, all THATA news dot com or all

621
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: data dot com. I forget where I found it, but

622
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: it's if you google all Data you'll see it. Their

623
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: their monthly newsletter, and they have a story in there

624
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: about tech by the name of Eric trying to diagnose

625
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: a voltage problem on a four to escape and it's

626
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: a great story that talks about step by step diagnosis,

627
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: looking for the problems with the aid of a wiring

628
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: diagram clear cut. Thank god All Data has such a

629
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: good clear cut information. They're able to lay out the

630
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: wiring point, the tech in the right direction, which sensors

631
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: are in common that share the affected circuits. It's all there.

632
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: But you know what, all that information doesn't jump off

633
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: the page. You've got to be able to take the

634
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: time to sit down and read it and That's why

635
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: I say re search, research with systems like all data

636
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: are just all part of the repair process until the

637
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: next time I'm run a nading of the car. Doc.

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