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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports. Oh, good morning everybody.

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Speaker 2: Hope your Saturday is off to a fantastic start. You know,

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Speaker 2: good morning fellas, good morning. Thinking right before the show started.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of when unnecessary negativity gets blown

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Speaker 2: out of the water.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. Remember when this is back

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Speaker 2: in the day, but a lot of people said, hey,

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Speaker 2: John Elway, he can't win at all, and then he

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Speaker 2: won back to back Super Bowls. The same things were

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Speaker 2: said about Michael.

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Speaker 1: Jordan, like he just can't win it all.

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Speaker 2: The list goes on and on, And I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about the Boston Celtics as far as this is concerned,

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Speaker 2: right where for all the negativity, you can't trust this team.

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Speaker 2: The East is so easy, look at their path. The

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Speaker 2: Celtics should be blowing out all these injured teams. For

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Speaker 2: all the noise, the Celtics are still healthy favorites against

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Speaker 2: the MAVs to win the NBA Finals. Boston is favored

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Speaker 2: by six and a half in Game one. They're minus

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Speaker 2: two twenty five to win the series. That means if

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Speaker 2: you're backing Boston, you would have to risk two hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty five dollars just to win one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's how healthy of a favorite they are.

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Speaker 2: So I love all this noise in Vegas, and the

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Speaker 2: sports books are like, yeah, we're ignoring the noise.

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Speaker 1: We just think they're better heading into this matchup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it's uh, it's the right way to be.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the right message to send.

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Speaker 3: Boston has a problem, though, and the problem is they

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Speaker 3: don't have believers because they haven't converted enough people to

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Speaker 3: believing what they think.

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Speaker 4: They know in their own locker room.

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Speaker 3: And that's okay, because as long as there's strong enough

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Speaker 3: belief amongst you the twelve or fifteen people who have

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Speaker 3: a true impact on the outcome of these games when

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Speaker 3: they're going from you know, the Garden to Dallas and back,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter. But what does matter is this

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Speaker 3: series and the outcome of this series, because it will

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Speaker 3: shift the paradigm one way or another if they win. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: like you just said, they'll dispel the myth that Boston

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Speaker 3: can't do it if they lose, though, Brian, because we

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Speaker 3: haven't seen this series play out yet, and we have

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Speaker 3: seen Boston get this far before and recently, then it

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Speaker 3: doesn't help them because getting to the Eastern Conference Final,

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Speaker 3: as we know, or winning it for that matter, isn't

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Speaker 3: isn't what people remember. You know, victors write the history books.

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Speaker 3: That's as true in world history as it is in

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Speaker 3: sports history. So Boston needs to win this series for

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Speaker 3: what you just said to be true. And I agree

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Speaker 3: with you on the outset. It looks like they're capable

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Speaker 3: and ready to. But this series has not played yet.

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Speaker 3: And we've been here before with the Celtics, not this

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Speaker 3: iteration of the Celtics, but with the franchise.

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Speaker 5: Well, great teams cover right seven and seven against the

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Speaker 5: spread in the playoffs, they failed to cover four of

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Speaker 5: their last five. And let's be honest, guys, I watched

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Speaker 5: that Pacers series and I ate some humble pie because

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Speaker 5: I thought the Pacers were gonna get at least a game,

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Speaker 5: and I bet a pretty big whopper of a price

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Speaker 5: like minus three fifty that the Pacers would not get swept.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, was I wrong? But what was

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Speaker 1: I wrong? Like?

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Speaker 5: Was I wrong for my assessment of the series, which

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Speaker 5: was the Celtics don't have the killer instinct to really,

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Speaker 5: you know, put the hammer down. Well, they didn't cover

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Speaker 5: in three out of the four games, and in three

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Speaker 5: out of the four games at one point during the

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Speaker 5: game in Game one, in Game three, and in Game four,

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Speaker 5: the Pacers had a ninety plus percent win probability in

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Speaker 5: game And there were different parts of the game, most

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Speaker 5: of it obviously the second half.

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Speaker 1: Late in the second half.

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Speaker 5: I think Game one was when they were up six

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Speaker 5: with like thirty seconds left and it goes over time.

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Speaker 5: In Game three it was another situation where they had

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Speaker 5: I think an eighteen point lead at one point in.

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Speaker 1: The third quarter.

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Speaker 5: So it hasn't been sunshines and rainbows, I understand, and

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Speaker 5: you're right, Brian. The rhetoric this seasons postseason has been

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Speaker 5: Boston's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the reason why.

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Speaker 5: It's porzingis injury, it's you know, Tatum is aloof it's

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Speaker 5: Jalen Brown's this, it's.

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Speaker 1: This Missoula is that, whatever it is.

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Speaker 5: You're right, that's been the rhetoric is the Celtics are

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Speaker 5: not good enough. But here we are sweep in the

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Speaker 5: Eastern Conference Finals. Now the road's been incredibly easy, and

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Speaker 5: that's what we're gonna find out, Like this will be

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Speaker 5: this is the tightest of a number we've had with

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Speaker 5: the Celtics at home in a while, and they were

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Speaker 5: like a seven point favorite against the Nuggets earlier this year,

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Speaker 5: and now we're only laying six and a half against

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Speaker 5: the Mavericks. So I think there's a lot of people

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Speaker 5: in my area of the world here in the desert

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Speaker 5: that might think Boston might be a little undervalued, which

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Speaker 5: is just crazy considering where we've where we've come from.

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Speaker 2: Well, first thing, in a fair and just world, Rick

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Speaker 2: Carlyle owes you the money you lost.

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Speaker 1: It was an insignificant amount of money it was.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't the most I've ever mounted in one lost

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Speaker 5: in one bet, but it wasn't the least either man.

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Speaker 1: Game one of three. God, let's not foul. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if Jalen Brown can hit this corner three? Oh shoot

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Speaker 1: he did it turns out shot.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is This is one of the reasons why

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Speaker 2: I love Boston in this series is there has been

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Speaker 2: so much negativity. They've been heavily doubted, and yes, at

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Speaker 2: times they have looked bored or looked argic or apathetic,

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Speaker 2: and yeah that's true, but I'm not gonna absolve all

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Speaker 2: blame because it shouldn't have looked like that. They should

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Speaker 2: have looked like a hot knife through butter all the

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Speaker 2: time with the path that they faced with all these

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Speaker 2: injured players, and they just didn't that. Miami, no Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 2: no Tyreese Halliburton for the last two games for the

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Speaker 2: at times You're like, man, they should just be dominating.

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Speaker 2: But this is why I love them so much, is

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Speaker 2: because so many people feel that way, and the Celtics

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Speaker 2: they can't just absolve themselves from all this negativity. They

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Speaker 2: hear it, they know it, and now you can use

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Speaker 2: that as additional fuel.

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Speaker 1: On the final stage.

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Speaker 2: You're not coasting against Luca and Kyrie Irving and a

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Speaker 2: really talented team on this stage. Maybe Round one against

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Speaker 2: Miami with no Jimmy Butler when the heat shoot twenty

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Speaker 2: three threes or whatever it was in Game two, yeah

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Speaker 2: you could look a little apathetic. But I don't see

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Speaker 2: that happening at all on the final stage when all

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Speaker 2: these eyeballs are on them. I just don't see it.

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Speaker 2: And I think the negativity helps them as well.

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Speaker 3: Heading in so it doesn't matter how you win as

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Speaker 3: long as you win, and it doesn't matter how you

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Speaker 3: get there as long as you get there. And so

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Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in what the majority of what

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Speaker 3: you just said. Like Boston, maybe they don't win pretty,

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Speaker 3: but they win, and winning is an effective way, an

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Speaker 3: effective way to dispel whatever myths are out there about you. Look,

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Speaker 3: I remember now, this is before I was with the Patriots,

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Speaker 3: two years before I got drafted. They had that undefeated season,

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Speaker 3: and they romped the field in the postseason, and then

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Speaker 3: they get to the Giants and the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 3: during the bye week, the Giants switched some things up

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Speaker 3: and they ended up beating the Pats seventeen to fourteen

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Speaker 3: in Glendel, Arizona. Now, the Giants, you could make the

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Speaker 3: argument that they deserve to be in that Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: a lot less so than the Patriots. This is a

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Speaker 3: nine win football team, if I'm remembering correctly, who got

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Speaker 3: hot late in the season, who entered as wild card

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Speaker 3: to finally beat them by getting to Tom Brady and

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Speaker 3: rattling his cage, and of course a little luck on

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Speaker 3: their side. David Tyree the catch off the helmet. We

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Speaker 3: know how that one went, But I reference that because

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Speaker 3: winning ugly is fine. It's fine as long as you're winning. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I agree with what you said, Jared. Great teams

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Speaker 3: cover and typically that's a great indicator of a team

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Speaker 3: that can handle success. But also, winning is the most

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Speaker 3: effective balm. It's the most effective salve, it's the most

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Speaker 3: effective medicine that if applied directly to the issue, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter how anything looks, it cures all. And so

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Speaker 3: the Celtics have effectively worked their way to this point.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna say something I said at the start

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Speaker 3: of the postseason that I think probably remains true.

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Speaker 4: I think the West was more talented than the.

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Speaker 3: East overall, So whoever emerges out of the West will

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Speaker 3: have been better tested against their opponents than whoever emerges

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Speaker 1: And I still feel that way.

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Speaker 3: So Boston, for what it's worth, surviving and advancing at times,

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Speaker 3: not covering having some tricky moments against some of these

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference teams, this is a whole different beast facing

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Speaker 3: the Dallas out of the Gauntlet, of the West.

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Speaker 5: Who do you think I was asked this question a

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Speaker 5: couple of days ago, and I wasn't one hundred percent

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Speaker 5: sure yet based on my answer. But now that we've

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Speaker 5: seen t Wolves, you know, get eliminated in the maps

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Speaker 5: efforts were in, I might reassess who do you think

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Speaker 5: is going to be the public's darling in this series?

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Speaker 5: Like because we're talking pretty you know, negatively about the Celtics, right,

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Speaker 5: Like national media has been pretty down on the Celtics, right,

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Speaker 5: but then you get this Kyrie story, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's gonna get played up a lot. But at the

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Speaker 5: end of the day, people are like, wow, Wow, Boston's

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Speaker 5: not as big of a favorite as they were in

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Speaker 5: in you know, these prior series. You know, now they're

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Speaker 5: like a reasonable game, Like they were like a fourteen

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Speaker 5: at home, So no one was really you know, hot

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Speaker 5: and heavy on the Celtics, But now you can kind

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Speaker 5: of make a case.

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Speaker 1: To bet them.

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Speaker 5: So I still think Dallas will still get a lot

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Speaker 5: of love early, but like if Boston comes out Game

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Speaker 5: one and you know, smokes them like a shish kabab,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's like the like the series, the series

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Speaker 5: vibe could tilt or could could switch very quickly. I

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Speaker 5: think I think Dallas Game one will be the public side.

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Speaker 1: And then in game two it might change.

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Speaker 5: You know, in the public reserves their right to change

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Speaker 5: their opinion very quickly based on game one. But my

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Speaker 5: guess is game one is Dallas gets most of the love.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think? No, I think so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right on that.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird It's a good question because you know

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Speaker 2: as well as as we do that the favorites typically

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Speaker 2: get the public side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the public money, especially the finals. Yeah, but it's Boston,

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Speaker 1: ye yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's going to be tilted toward Dallas

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Speaker 2: because of all the negativity and it's like I can

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Speaker 2: get six and a half points. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people will. That'll be their their way of thinking,

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Speaker 2: and they'll back Dallas early on. We'll see where it

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Speaker 2: goes from there. I just want to throw one other

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Speaker 5: Well, Brian, to go back to your point about you

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Speaker 3: Steve Steve Okay, Gable Steveson, He's a great wrestler, will

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Speaker 3: compute to the NFL. I don't know, but I did

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Speaker 3: play with a guy named Steve Neil.

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Speaker 1: Who was a two time Division one if I'm remembering correctly,

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Speaker 1: a two time Division one national champion out of cal State. Bakersfield.

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Speaker 3: Steve Neil played in the NFL after this extraordinary wrestling

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Speaker 3: career in college.

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Speaker 4: What happened was he left college.

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Speaker 3: And he started wrestling professionally, and he competed at worlds.

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Speaker 3: I think they call it. I'm unfamiliar with the wrestling world.

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Speaker 3: So he was the freestyle world champion. And this is

447
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Speaker 3: back in either the early two thousands or the late nineties.

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Speaker 3: But when I got to New England, Steve Neil was

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Speaker 3: already well into his NFL career. And the way it

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Speaker 3: started basically was back then the UFC was in its infancy.

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Speaker 3: Mixed Marshall arts was something that people were unfamiliar with,

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Speaker 3: and he was considering joining up in that group, and

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Speaker 3: his agent started talking to some NFL teams. I think

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Speaker 3: that his agent may have represented some NFL players and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, we might be able to get

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Speaker 3: you on a roster if that's interesting to you. He

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Speaker 3: had n't played football organized football since high school, and

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Speaker 3: so he ended up signing with.

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Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe it was with New England, and then he

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Speaker 3: got cut and then he was got signed by Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: and then he came back to New England. Like it

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Speaker 3: was a rocky first couple of years, but he ended

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Speaker 3: up starting something like close to one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Games in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He won three Super Bowls with the Patriots, So it

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Speaker 3: has happened before.

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Speaker 1: Now. Steve was a great athlete. Everybody knew that.

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Speaker 3: But Steve also had a level of toughness and a

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Speaker 3: desire to be great at football that you absolutely need to.

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Speaker 3: You gotta kind of obsess over it and fall in

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Speaker 3: love with the game and do all the things that

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Speaker 3: requires you to like be you know, ostensibly great at something.

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Speaker 1: Building up from the bottom.

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Speaker 3: Because he went from being a world champion, he was

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Speaker 3: the best in the world at freestyle wrestling, to being

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Speaker 3: the fifty.

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Speaker 1: Third man on a roster.

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Speaker 3: It takes a lot to be as great as Gable Steveston,

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Speaker 3: you know this, this national champion, to then being the

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Speaker 3: worst at something and building your way back up. So

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Speaker 3: if he has the mental toughness the way Steve Neil did,

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Speaker 3: who knows, maybe it'll work out. But it takes a

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Speaker 3: lot more than athleticism to be great at something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I applaud the Bills for thinking outside the box.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like these days it's hard to

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Speaker 5: find good talent that isn't already on someone's radar, and

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Speaker 5: this is unique.

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna work? I have no idea. Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna be a rockstar player? Probably not. It takes a

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Speaker 1: long time.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Rich, it's I'm curious your thoughts because

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Speaker 5: you play it right. Like to me, this is like, oh,

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Speaker 5: this guy thinks you can just step on the field

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Speaker 5: of play my sport, Like like that's how I would

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Speaker 5: feel if I was someone who had been blood, sweat

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Speaker 5: and tears trying to make the NFL and now I've

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Speaker 5: got to compete against the guy that's been you know,

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Speaker 5: sweating on the mat with with.

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Speaker 1: Dudes for the last however many years he's been wrestling.

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Speaker 5: It's it's almost like it's almost like a, hey, we

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Speaker 5: better be careful because if we don't do our job,

503
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Speaker 5: McDermott's gonna replace us with a wrestler. Like it just

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Speaker 5: it raises like the level of awareness of the Bills

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Speaker 5: kind of trying to ascend to this championship status right

506
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Speaker 5: because let's be honest, of all the teams that have

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Speaker 5: been right there but not there the last four years,

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Speaker 5: is there any team more in that mold than the Bills,

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Speaker 5: where like if a ball bounces their way a couple times,

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Speaker 5: like like geez, the playoffs last year, and then of

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Speaker 5: course you go back to the game a few years

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Speaker 5: ago that was like the craziest game still that I

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Speaker 5: can recall watching when the Bills and the Chiefs went

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Speaker 5: back and forth, and then of course the overtime it

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Speaker 5: led to the rule change, and like it just I'm

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Speaker 5: to me, this is like I don't want to say,

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Speaker 5: a desperate move, but it's definitely Hey, we need to

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Speaker 5: shake things up a little bit. So let's shake it

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Speaker 5: up because whatever we've done hasn't worked. And the definition

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Speaker 5: of insanity is to do things over and over again

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Speaker 5: the same thing and expect a different result. So again,

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Speaker 5: I don't think this is gonna work. I don't think

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Speaker 5: he's gonna be like, you know, the next Reggie White,

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Speaker 5: But I think it's an interesting move by a franchise

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Speaker 5: that's trying to shake things up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, we've seen this happen in similar ways where look

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Speaker 2: at Eagles left tackle Jordan Malatta, who is fantastic. He

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Speaker 2: was a rugby player, yeah, and he came over and

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Speaker 2: had to learn a lot of technique to make it

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Speaker 2: obviously in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It can be done. We're not trying to paint a

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Speaker 1: picture of this can never work out.

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Speaker 2: It has worked out. There have been examples of it.

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Speaker 2: It's just this idea of Austin Rivers saying, oh, if

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Speaker 2: you're a great athlete, you're good, you'll figure out the

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Speaker 2: minor d Yah. That's because look look at some of

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Speaker 2: the players that have excelled. You mentioned Tom Brady in football,

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Speaker 2: and look at it from a basketball perspective. Luk at

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Speaker 2: Doncic has been unbelievable. He is not an awesome athlete

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Speaker 2: at all. He is just highly skilled, has a great technique.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with Nicola Jokicic He's won MVP three of

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Speaker 2: the last four years. Jokic is not an athletic specimen,

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Speaker 2: you know. So you have to learn a lot more

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Speaker 2: than just being a great athlete to even make it

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Speaker 2: in the NFL NBA. It's just disrespectful to be like,

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Speaker 2: I could take thirty guys right now and they could

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Speaker 2: go in the NFL and they're currently NBA players.

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Speaker 1: No, you couldn't.

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Speaker 2: You could not do that, although I will say you

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Speaker 2: could take one update anchor and that would be Isaac

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Speaker 2: Lohman kron and if he wanted to be in the

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Speaker 2: NFL or the NBA, best believe me he would be.

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Speaker 1: But he's here grazing us with his presence today.

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Speaker 8: I wonder probably not a lot of skill is actually

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Speaker 8: involved in being a holder on place kicks. I honestly

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Speaker 8: would not. Actually, to be honest, holding on place kicks

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Speaker 8: does involve the considerable amount of skill.

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Speaker 1: And catch that ball as a compan feat really fast.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, you catch the ball, but you also have

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Speaker 8: to spin the laces to the front and not completely panic.

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Speaker 1: Very short period of time people coming down.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, some of these long snappers and

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Speaker 8: and and rich can back me up on this. They

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Speaker 8: can actually snap the ball so the laces revolve a

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Speaker 8: specific amount of time, so the laces hit the holder

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Speaker 8: right in the palm, so the holder doesn't even have

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Speaker 8: to turn the ball true.

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Speaker 3: Ye, the best, the best long snappers on punt they

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Speaker 3: can calculate exactly how how many revolutions the ball is

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Speaker 3: going to have so that the laces are facing skyward

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Speaker 3: for the punter, or even angled at a direction the

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Speaker 3: punter likes them. And the best short snappers on those

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Speaker 3: field goal kicks and extra points. They can make it

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Speaker 3: so that the laces are facing you know, downward if

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Speaker 3: need be, so that the holder can quickly place the

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Speaker 3: ball and then it's ready to be kicked.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, I don't worry. I got your

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Speaker 8: text message. I will be talking about Louis arrive shortly. Okay,

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Speaker 8: yeah again, thank you very much, just saving us some time.

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Speaker 1: Checks in the mail.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 8: We do started the NBA, however, we're Multiple outlets reported

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Speaker 8: overnight that Sacramento King's head coach Mike Brown's agreed to

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Speaker 8: a new contract extension through twenty twenty six twenty seven.

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Speaker 8: It's worth eight point five million dollars a year. Game

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Speaker 8: five of the NHL's Western Conference Finals on Friday night

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Speaker 8: saw the Edmonton Oilers win a Dallas three to one

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Speaker 8: for a three games to two lead. In Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 8: Friday night, in the Yankee six to two win at

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Speaker 8: San Francisco, Aaron Judge hit two more home runs to

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Speaker 8: become the first in the majors to twenty home runs.

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Speaker 8: So here are Judges stats for the month of May

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Speaker 8: fourteen home runs, twenty seven RBI, twenty five extra base

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Speaker 8: hits in the month of May, the most by a

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Speaker 8: Yankee in a calendar month since Joe Demaggio In July

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Speaker 8: of nineteen hundred and thirty seven. The Colorado Rockies beat

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Speaker 8: the Dodgers in Los Angeles four to one, and the

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Speaker 8: San Diego Padres rich nine runs Rich in the top

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Speaker 8: half of the eighth inning to win of Kansas City

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Speaker 8: eleven to eight. Luis Arrives four for five and how

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Speaker 8: about this his fourth four hit game in just twenty

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Speaker 8: four games in a Padre uniform.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, yep, Yeah, Louisa Rise rubbing off

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Speaker 1: on them.

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Speaker 2: They had ten singles just that eighth inning alone.

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Speaker 1: Good lord, we're basically bunting up there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: real fast. Here was the craziest thing I read all week.

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Speaker 2: So this is from Matt Schneidman. He covers the Packers

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Speaker 2: for The Athletic and he was writing about wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Christian Watson. And you know, Christian Watson's had all these

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Speaker 2: hamstring injuries, right, It's really been a negative thing for

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Speaker 2: him to try to get over. He's banged up constantly.

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Speaker 2: And so he went to a specialist in Madison, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: and the specialists like, let's dive deeper, let's figure out

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Speaker 2: what's going on here. The specialist discovered that Watson's right

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Speaker 2: leg was significantly weaker than his left leg.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And so they put him on this training program. They're

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Speaker 2: trying to get his legs evened out in terms of strength,

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Speaker 2: and they think this could help Watson stay on the field.

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Speaker 2: It is because of these unbalanced legs of his. So

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Speaker 2: if he can He's got all the talent in the world,

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Speaker 2: he just can't stay healthy. If he can't stay healthy,

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Speaker 2: look out man. He could be a big asset for

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Speaker 2: the Packers, who did really well last season mostly with

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Speaker 2: him being absent.

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Speaker 1: So it's something to watch going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely is. You just reminded me. I remember

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Speaker 3: reading the story. I can't remember if he went out

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Speaker 3: to Wisconsin, but do you remember when Cooper cup reaggravated

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Speaker 3: a hamstring injury, and he went out and he visited

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Speaker 3: a specialist somewhere else for a second opinion. I'm really

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Speaker 3: curious if it's the same guy that Watson went and visited.

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Speaker 3: I'm really curious because that is, by the way, that's

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Speaker 3: something that happens in NFL circles. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: don't talk about doctors and specialists. Like if there's a

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Speaker 3: good shoulder surgeon, everybody wants to go to that shoulder surgeon.

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Speaker 1: If there's good anchor guy, or good hip guy, or

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Speaker 1: good knee guy.

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Speaker 3: Like the I believe it was doctor Anderson down in Alabama,

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Speaker 3: everybody went and saw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, so there are certain sports docs who become

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Speaker 3: renowned and famous. I went to one of them when

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Speaker 3: I had my micro disc ectomy. I had it done

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Speaker 3: by Doc Watkins in LA. And it's because he did

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Speaker 3: Peyton Manning's neck, and he did Gronk's neck, and he

656
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Speaker 3: did you know, or Gronk's back or whoever he saw,

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Speaker 3: you know, a couple other guys that I'm aware of it,

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Speaker 3: you know, like like there are there are jerseys up

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Speaker 3: in his office, and now mine's added to the collection

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Speaker 3: because I was like, well, that's the guy I want

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Speaker 3: to go if he's been in charge of some of

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Speaker 3: the most famous athletes.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious if it's the same guy, that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's a different guy.

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Speaker 2: I just looked it up where it's a guy Cooper

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Speaker 2: Cup went to a guy hamstring specialist in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Oh got So maybe the key is just go to

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Speaker 1: the Midwest. Just go to the Midwest. They're great with

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Speaker 1: Hammy's real quick.

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Speaker 3: Your body's balance, you know, just because you have like

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Speaker 3: an injury in your left knees, say, it could trigger

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Speaker 3: something where all of a sudden you start having problems

673
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Speaker 3: with your right ankle because of over compensations. So it

674
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Speaker 3: is really smart to fix those imbalances. Watson could end

675
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Speaker 3: up having a great season if he's fixed these things

676
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Speaker 3: soon enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be really interesting to find out. All right,

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Speaker 2: that's rich joorn Berger, Penn State All American. Jared Smith

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Speaker 2: with us FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian now coming up next.

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Speaker 2: The spotlight is shining on Jared Smith the parlay platter. Addition,

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Speaker 2: I don't know we're on UFC, what are we up to?

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Speaker 2: Your Okay, I'm just saying that the number that you've

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Speaker 2: done over the.

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Speaker 5: US great question. To be fair, I don't even want

686
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Speaker 5: to go back and look at the record.

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Speaker 1: So like UFC three to oh two or so. This

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Speaker 1: is Jared.

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Speaker 2: Smith losses at three h two p three fifth the

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Speaker 2: Ears of the parlay platter on the way. It's Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time to waste. Let's dive into this.

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Speaker 6: Anything check this out, parlay flatterer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, you've been in the lab. You're set to

696
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Speaker 2: unveil a new parlay platter.

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Speaker 1: Here we are all ears. What do you have for us? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's do a little SGP with this. Braves A's game.

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Speaker 5: So the first thing I identified today is it is

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Speaker 5: a breezy day down in the atl wind blowing directly

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00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 5: in from center field at a brisk ten to fifteen

702
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: miles an hour. And there's a little you know system

703
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: out there that if the wind's blowing in, well you

704
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: should at least look to bet the under, because it's

705
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 5: been a profitable strategy about fifty eight percent this year

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00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 5: when the wind is blowing directly in in any direction

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00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 5: at more than ten miles an hour sustained twenty nine,

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00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 5: twenty one.

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Speaker 1: And three to the under this season.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna take this Braves A's game, which is

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00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 5: kind of a unique pitching matchup because on one time

712
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: we get Chris Sale, who is an absolute rock star

713
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: and he's given up a one earned run or less in.

714
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: Six consecutive starts.

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Speaker 5: On the other side, Aaron Brooks, not the former Saints

716
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 5: quarterback Aaron Brooks, but just a random righty that they're

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00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 5: gonna throw out there.

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00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, right, I think the under makes sense.

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00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: I love those Saints teams too, Joe Little big Horn

720
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: as the receiver.

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Speaker 1: But I digress.

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 5: So since the Acunya injury, right, really tough injury, Toronto

723
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 5: Acunya Junior this week actually torn a cl It's been

724
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 5: five games since Braves eleven for sixty six in that

725
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 5: span against Ridings, So again, Acuna is I mean, he

726
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 5: hits everybody, but you take him out of the lineup,

727
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: the Braves offense less punch. And how about the Braids

728
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: This year the most unders in all of baseball thirty

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 5: five twenty and two.

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Speaker 1: So even with Akunya early in the.

731
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Speaker 5: Year, that offense was not very punchy, and the A's

732
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Speaker 5: have scored only four runs in their last fourteen games

733
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Speaker 5: against lefty. So we're gonna take the first five under

734
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Speaker 5: four runs, We're gonna take the full game under eight,

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Speaker 5: and we're gonna take Chris Sale under one and a

736
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Speaker 5: half earn runs. It's an underwhelming same game parlay between the.

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Speaker 1: A's and the Braids.

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00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: Not the juiciest payout plus one ninety, but again, guys,

739
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 5: it's a correlated parlay.

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Speaker 1: Right.

741
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Speaker 5: If the first five underhits, I feel good about the

742
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: full game underhitting, and if all of those unders are

743
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Speaker 5: also cashing, I think Chris Sale stays under one and a.

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Speaker 1: Half or run wow wow. I like.

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Speaker 3: I like baseball because on the outset you can feel

746
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: really secure when you are also extrapolating wind speed and

747
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: direction into the ballpark, like you've got a lie. You've

748
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: got meteorologists nodding along with you, like yep, no, this

749
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: checks out?

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Speaker 1: The math does map fun this one?

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00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: Jared Smith, Let him cook, let's go.

752
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: I like the thinking, Jared. The one thing I was

753
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: thinking of is is baseball more frustrating than other sports?

754
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: To meaning this? Right? You know, I can feel your

755
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: head in your hands as you say that. You know, like, Sale,

756
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I like what you're thinking here under.

757
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: One and a half earned runs, right, Sales been fantastic.

758
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: You outlaid all of that. But baseball it's just one

759
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: of these things where it'll mess with you.

760
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: We're either in the first inning, the A's get two

761
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: runs and you're like, where did this come from?

762
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: Right walk and a home run and it's over, or.

763
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: Right before he's about to be taken out, you're good,

764
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: just take him out of the game. You know, he

765
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Speaker 2: gives up that one run to go along with the

766
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: other one run.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh, it just made me think

768
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: of that.

769
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Speaker 5: Well, we were talking about this earlier in a different context.

770
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Speaker 5: But the way that I bet baseball is, you know,

771
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 5: first inning, it's literally, you know, it's a quick death.

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00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: I've had wins and losses before first first pitch of

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 1: Home run, you're done. Imagine doing all.

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Speaker 5: This research for a bet and then it's like the

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Speaker 5: first pitch, Yeah, it's over.

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00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think it happens in other sports. That

778
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: can't very rarely.

779
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: I bet the first quarter under and there was a

780
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Speaker 2: touchdown on the kickoff returners.

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00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know something like that.

782
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, who are the most and

783
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: the least interesting teams in the NFL this season? We

784
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: will compare notes right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

786
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: The word of the segments is interesting. Okay, it's a

787
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Speaker 2: little bit like sesame street the word of the day.

788
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Speaker 2: This isn't the word of the day. It's just the

789
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Speaker 2: word of the segments here. Okay, So for the next

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Speaker 2: ten twelve minutes, are interesting.

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Speaker 1: We're all about interesting. Okay. The Chicago Bears be featured

792
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks this season. Are you interested? I am?

793
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I am Caleb Williams, first training camp rookie

794
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: going up against a good defense in camp.

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Speaker 1: We're jotting doubt. Oh yeah yeah two incompletions, what interception?

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00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 6: Right?

797
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: We're doing?

798
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 8: All that?

799
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: I need to calm down with.

800
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Speaker 2: That is a bit much ridiculous, But I'm interested. I'll

801
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: tune in to watch Hard Knocks with the Bears featured.

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00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: You guys, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was talking to somebody who is really downplaying

804
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: their level of excitement or interest, and I can't tell

805
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: if they were doing it for effect during the conversation

806
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: or if they're actually not interested. In watching you know

807
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: how sometimes people in different crowds they change their opinion

808
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: because they feel like, well, I don't know, maybe it's

809
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: cool to have the one dissenting opinion. I don't understand that,

810
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: because it's okay to go along.

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Speaker 1: With the crowds.

812
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Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, it's okay to feel like genuine excitement

813
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: or intrigue in something that everybody is feeling genuine excitement

814
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Speaker 3: and intrigue in.

815
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Speaker 1: You know, it's not punk rock to.

816
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Speaker 3: Be like ah, I mean, I like the NFL, but

817
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams pass.

818
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: It's like, wait, what like?

819
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams right now is the NFL. He's the first

820
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: overall draft picks. He's another one of these quote unquote

821
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 3: can't miss guys that we've heard talked about, with Andrew

822
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 3: Luck out of Stanford or Trevor Lawrence out of Clemson.

823
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: It's now Caleb Williams out of USC So I can't

824
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: wait to see what this looks like.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, my take on this is.

826
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Speaker 3: It's either going to endear people to Caleb Williams or

827
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Speaker 3: completely turn them off to Caleb Williams.

828
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be an in between.

829
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Speaker 3: I think that I think that Caleb Williams is a

830
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Speaker 3: little bit of a polarizing character because he he is

831
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Speaker 3: one of those people who seems pretty self assured as

832
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: to who he is. You know, this is a guy who,

833
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: whether you think it's counterculture, it's completely acceptable.

834
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Speaker 1: This is the sports world.

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Speaker 3: He paints his fingernails and there's a lot of opinions

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Speaker 3: about that. You know, this is a guy who, whether

837
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Speaker 3: you think it's okay to be an athlete and show

838
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: big emotions, sobbed in his mother's arms and that became

839
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: headlines for a month, right. You know, it's it's going

840
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: to be one of those those I think one of

841
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: those series, one of those shows that is either going

842
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 3: to endear him to and maybe not necessarily talking about

843
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: the Bears fan base specifically, I'm talking about everybody who's

844
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: interested in the NFL and everybody who starts seeing the

845
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Speaker 3: clips that will go viral as the season.

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Speaker 4: You know, goes on or the mini series goes on.

847
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: I think that is going to be the big takeaway

848
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: is how people feel about Caleb Williams after this Hard

849
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: Knocks episode, or I should say, this season wraps.

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Speaker 1: I think people are gonna love him.

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00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 5: I think a lot of that pushback right now, if

852
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: he did, let's leave it at this. If he doesn't

853
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: play it, well that's a different story. But until the

854
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 5: game start, I think he is going to be a

855
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: captivating he and I don't have as many you know,

856
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 5: to me, Chicago is a bit of a foreign territory

857
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 5: in terms of my contacts, but everyone that I know there,

858
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's he's done, he said, and done

859
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 5: all the right things so far. So there's a lot

860
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 5: of excitement. I think the win total and that excitement

861
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 5: on the betting side is starting to get a little

862
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 5: bit overblown. But in terms of as we discussed, the entertainment,

863
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 5: the most interesting man in the world, right, I mean,

864
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 5: he's it right now in the NFL. There's no doubt

865
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 5: about that, and he deserves it. I mean, he's got

866
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Speaker 5: all the intangibles that we look for, and he's obviously

867
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: got the tangibles. Tangibles or else he wouldn't have been

868
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 5: drafted first. But I really liked how he handled that

869
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Speaker 5: whole process, and we were critical of him. I'm sure

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Speaker 5: at some point, I know our producer Bo Benson doesn't

871
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: like it when we are because is a big usc guy.

872
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 5: But I'm sure at some point over the last year

873
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 5: or so we've been doing this show, we've been critical

874
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: of him, but I really think he's handled this all

875
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: with you know, class and grace.

876
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Like he came in and it was a really.

877
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 5: Uh it was a much talked about situation, and we

878
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 5: haven't talked about it much over the last few weeks.

879
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of calmed down, right.

880
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: I think it'd be funny if bo was like, yes,

881
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: I do remember it was October twenty Yeah.

882
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Room.

883
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: I'll say this though, as something you said right there,

884
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: Jared made me think of this. Whatever Caleb Williams does

885
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: this year, it will be talked about ad nauseum because,

886
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: let's just say, for the sake of argument, as a rookie,

887
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: he has some struggles most rookies do. It will not

888
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: be like Bryce Young last year, Right, he was a

889
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: number one overall pick, got off to a shaky start,

890
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: and he just sort of faded off into the background.

891
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: He was not talked about hardly at all with the

892
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers.

893
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: And if Caleb Williams had the.

894
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: Exact same season in twenty twenty four that Bryce Young

895
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: had in twenty twenty three, it's gonna be talked about

896
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: so much differently because Caleb Williams is just a lightning rod. Yeah,

897
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, his style just what we've talked about

898
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: in college going into the NFL.

899
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: It's like there are sides.

900
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: People either have their mind made up in a negative

901
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: way or a positive way, and there's just this clash

902
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: and it's gonna lead to so many conversations and debates

903
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: no matter what he does, if he's great, if he's struggling,

904
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: if he's inconsistent, it's gonna be talked about like crazy

905
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: because it's just different than Bryce Young last year.

906
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: That's true.

907
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: However, I will say this, we're talking about, you know,

908
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: a market size that's down in the twenties.

909
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: When we're talking about it.

910
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't care, and I don't think it has anything

911
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: to do with any of these conversations.

912
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we're talking about the third rank market

913
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: in the country, Chicago. I mean, they have an enormous

914
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: amount of people who are interested in Chicago sports, and

915
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: the tune in when Chicago is good is enormous.

916
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not look and this is saying nothing about.

917
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: Charlotte or the Carolinas in general, but you have to

918
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: be you have to be Clemson. You know, you have

919
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: to you know, Cam Newton, Yeah, you have to be

920
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: Cam Newton. You have to be you have to be

921
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: something real special.

922
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 4: You have to be Duke. You have to be you

923
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: and c to to.

924
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: Really climb out of the the seller of the public

925
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: consciousness to take center stage. And so Bryce Young it

926
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: was a little bit easier for Carolina or the NFL

927
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: to hide Carolina. There's no hiding in market three in

928
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: this country. And now, don't get me wrong, market size

929
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: is and everything because Green Bay, Wisconsin is right, I

930
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: mean it is.

931
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: It is a now.

932
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: But there's steak exactly, you know, Vince Lombardi, lambeau Foot,

933
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: bart start, thank you.

934
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the list goes on, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre.

935
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Jordan Love was going to he was

936
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: going to get it if he wasn't good, and and

937
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: it was, you know, the people were starting to chirp,

938
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: and then he turned it around. Looks So the reality

939
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: of this situation is, I think Caleb Williams, for two reasons,

940
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: is going to be a lot bigger of a deal

941
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: to the NFL this season than than Bryce Young.

942
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: It's because I think he was.

943
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: A bigger star in his program out of USC and

944
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: a more visible position within his program. Like Alabama, people

945
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: talk about the running back and the defense. USC it's

946
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: always been about the quarterback. So that's that's part of

947
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: the story. And then also the place he's going to.

948
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: I mean, they are so desperate for something special to

949
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: happen in Chicago with the Bears that I mean, he's

950
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: really being he looked at. It's like, hey, buddy, like,

951
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 3: this is our first opportunity at a first overall pick

952
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: in a long time.

953
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: Don't screw it up.

954
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of people waiting to chirp if

955
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 4: he does.

956
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

957
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: And again, the expectations are higher than they were in Charlotte. Like,

958
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 5: for example, I'll give you and to kind of corroborate

959
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: your your narrative a little bit rich. I have a

960
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: friend that lives here in Vegas. Shout out Chris that

961
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 5: play golf of them yesterday's from Charlotte. It's from North Carolina.

962
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 5: Huge Panthers fan, but you know what, he's a bigger

963
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 5: fan of it.

964
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: It's a lot of braves like and and.

965
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 5: That's just it's just kind of the vibe of that area,

966
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: like it's a Braves town, it's a NASCAR town, you're right,

967
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: college basketball, Tobacco road.

968
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: You know.

969
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: The Carolina Panthers are probably like, I don't know, fifth

970
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 5: on the list of teams that people from the Carolinas root.

971
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: For, and like they're a new team.

972
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 5: Whereas the Bears, it's a little more mystique. It's a

973
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 5: little more George Hallis, it's a little more you know,

974
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 5: all of the former player and the Super Bowl shuffle

975
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 5: and all that stuff like it.

976
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Just it carries more weight.

977
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: And whether or not that's fair on Kayleb Williams or not,

978
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 5: it's not fair because he had nothing to do with

979
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 5: any of that. You know, he wasn't. He didn't pick

980
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 5: who he was drafted by. He just showed up on

981
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: draft night and it was the Bears. That's just the

982
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 5: way the NFL works. Like Bryce Young, I don't want

983
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 5: to say, got a pass last year, But if Bryce

984
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 5: Young was doing what he did for the Packers, yeah,

985
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: he hears about it a lot more because it's the

986
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: Packers and as we discussed, the.

987
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: Mystique, but he didn't.

988
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 5: He did it for Carolina, which in itself is kind

989
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: of an under the radar team and so probably didn't

990
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 5: get as even though he was the number one pick,

991
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 5: probably didn't get as much negative vitriol attention as if Bryce,

992
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 5: if Kayleb Williams goes through that this year. So that's

993
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 5: not like that's not a choice, but it's unfortunately the

994
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 5: reality that these quarterbacks live in the market you play

995
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: in kind of dictates the tone of how you're gonna

996
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 5: be treated. Sometimes like Aaron Rodgers in New York getting

997
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: treated now towards the end of his Green Bay ten.

998
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 5: You're a little different, but you know, it was all

999
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 5: sunshines and rainbows in Green Bay, right You're riding the

1000
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: bikes to the stadium during training cap everything's tunky dory.

1001
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: In New York, it's a little bit harsher.

1002
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: It's a little colder of a reality. So that's the

1003
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 5: reality Caleb is in in Chicago. The pressure is high.

1004
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: They're expected to.

1005
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 5: Be a winning team this year year one, right out

1006
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 5: of the gate, and if he slips, yeah, he's gonna

1007
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 5: hear about it a lot more than probably Bryce did

1008
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 5: last year.

1009
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: I think market has something to do with it. But

1010
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm on the opposite side of you, guys. I don't

1011
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: think it has nearly as much as you guys tend

1012
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: to think it does. Because look at it this way.

1013
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: If if Caleb Williams went to Carolina, right, let's say

1014
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: they never drafted Bryce Young, Caleb Williams went to Carolina,

1015
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: and Caleb Williams had the same bad year that Bryce

1016
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: Young just had. It's a much bigger talking point, like

1017
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: light years bigger, because he's just a bigger deal going

1018
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: out of college.

1019
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: Coming from college.

1020
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: We talked about him crying in the stands for months, you.

1021
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1022
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: We never did that with Bryce Young. He's just a

1023
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: bigger deal coming out. And I look at it, it's

1024
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: a lot like scouting in a way. If you're good enough,

1025
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: I don't care what college you're playing for. It could

1026
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: be Pine Bluff, East, West, North, you know, Southeast, it

1027
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. They will find you if you have that game.

1028
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: If you look at CJ. Stroud last season, I know

1029
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: Houston is a bigger market, but let's be honest, we

1030
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: never talk about the Houston Texans. They're the other team

1031
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: in Texas, you know.

1032
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: And CJ.

1033
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: Stroud went there balled out and we talked about him

1034
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: like crazy. So I think that market size Yeah, to

1035
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 2: your point, Jared, and to your point Rich, it has

1036
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: something to do with the amount of coverage. Yeah, I

1037
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: get that, But I think that if you are a

1038
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: rock star and you play in a small market, it's

1039
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: still gonna be a big deal. I think that if

1040
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams went to the Titans or the Panthers, he

1041
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: would still be a talking point because he's just a

1042
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: lightning rod.

1043
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: That's him, and we're.

1044
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 2: Gonna look at all these little details, fear or not,

1045
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: regardless of the market size. I think if Bryce Young

1046
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: had the same exact season with the Bears last year, nationally,

1047
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: we would have distanced ourselves from it. They're a two

1048
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: win team, They're irrelevant. Who cares now. Locally it's a

1049
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: mammoth deal, But nationally, I don't think it's that big

1050
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: of a story, even with the Bears searching for a

1051
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: quarterback major market, I don't think it's that big of

1052
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: a story. Caleb Williams struggling with that team, huge story

1053
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: if that ends up being the case.

1054
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: Completely agree with your assessment as well, and I do

1055
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: think it is a collaborative effect the type of star

1056
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: power you have leaving college, but also the market you

1057
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 3: go to I think has a strong effect as well.

1058
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, like stars, stardom follows you wherever you go.

1059
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: So Caleb Williams, wherever he was drafted, we'd be paying attention,

1060
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: especially if he's the first overall draft pick, to wherever

1061
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: he goes, he would not have the ability to disappear

1062
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 3: into the ether a lah Bryce Young last year. I mean,

1063
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: think about some of the stars in the first round

1064
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 3: doesn't even necessarily have to be first or all pick.

1065
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: But I'll start with one. Baker Mayfield going to Cleveland.

1066
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: That dude had hype and visibility and superstardom written all

1067
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: over him because you know he's planting the flag at

1068
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: O State right and he's you know, Honking is growing

1069
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 3: at the opposite sideline and Honkins.

1070
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like the dude.

1071
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: The dude had some spicy moments in college, so it

1072
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 3: was going to follow him into the NFL.

1073
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, I mean, mister clean out of college as

1074
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: far as we know Clean, you know, the Florida Gator.

1075
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: He goes and he gets drafted by the Broncos. It

1076
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: didn't matter where TBO was gonna land. He was going

1077
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: to be a superstar. So I do agree with what

1078
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: you're saying to answer your original question, and I'll give

1079
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: you very short answer and a very short list. The

1080
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: two other teams that come to mind is really specifically

1081
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 3: interesting heading into this NFL season for obvious reasons. The

1082
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 3: New York Jets six primetime games. They're gonna play seven

1083
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: standalone games before like game eleven of their season because

1084
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: they also have the game overseas Aaron Rodgers return. Blah

1085
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: blah blah. You know it. It's gonna be the focus

1086
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: of the NFL season. Another low key one nobody's talking

1087
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 3: about yet, the Denver Broncos with bow Knicks.

1088
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: If he's good, he has to be good.

1089
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's got to start cooking up, you know, some

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00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: figure this out in his lab. Because the AFC West

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Speaker 3: with with Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert with obviously what

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs have done, and Taylor Swift and Andy Reid

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00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce and all that. You know,

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00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: the NFC West is the division. If bow Knicks is good.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that's gonna be an enormous story this season.

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Speaker 5: So I'll make one quick point about Brian's original point,

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00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 5: and I'll give you some interesting least interesting. I think

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00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 5: the reason why we gave Bryce Younger pass is because

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Speaker 5: he won in college. I honestly believe that they won

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Speaker 5: a national championship. Obviously, I know Caleb Williams won a

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Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy, but they won like Bama won.

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Speaker 1: Right. It goes back to the conversation we're.

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Speaker 5: Having earlier about like, you can win ugly, but you

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Speaker 5: still won, Like, yeah, it might not have been pretty,

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00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 5: but Alabama won like they won the title. So maybe

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 5: we gave Bryce a little bit of a pass because

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00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 5: of that. And we didn't give Caleb a pass because

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00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: all of the big games that we saw him crying

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00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 5: in he lost, and that I think is the root

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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we're probably overdue.

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Speaker 5: We're probably overcooking the grits with the market stuff because

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00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: we're a very regionally biased society and that's just kind

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Speaker 5: of how we view the world, right, Like, I'd be

1115
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 5: very curious if you know the opinions of people. They

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00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: probably differ in New York than they do in Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just.

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Speaker 2: The way of the world mostly day, Sharon, Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: kick our legs up a little bit for like most

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Speaker 2: and least interesting. I want you to expand a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and we got to get to Rich's least interesting, So

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Speaker 2: we'll do that right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Right like dear thing?

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Speaker 1: Dot com to learn more.

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Speaker 2: Or we've got Rich Oornberger, Penn State All American, Jared

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Speaker 2: Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. We kick our

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Speaker 2: legs out right. Who are the three most interesting NFL teams?

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Speaker 2: Who are the three least interesting NFL teams heading into

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00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season. We'll compare notes next. It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It

1137
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: we are talking about interesting, most interesting, least interesting in

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Speaker 2: the NFL this upcoming season.

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Speaker 1: Shared, Well, we'll.

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00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: Throw it to you man on your three most interesting teams?

1142
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: What does your list look like here, well, I had

1143
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: to be a homer.

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00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 5: So obviously the Jets, I mean, how are they not

1145
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: the most interesting team after last year? And I know that,

1146
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 5: you know they weren't very interesting last year.

1147
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: Let's leave it. They were interesting for like seven minutes.

1148
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 5: It was like the best it was was that game

1149
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 5: you played as a kid seven minutes in Heaven, Right,

1150
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 5: that was basically the Jets season right there.

1151
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: It was, you know, a quick in and out of closet.

1152
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: That's it, we're done and we'll move on.

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00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 5: But I mean, if I do think they made all

1154
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 5: the right moves in the offseason, right, I thought they

1155
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 5: were gonna take the shiny toy in the draft and

1156
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 5: Brock Bowers. They went O line love my guy Olu

1157
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 5: out of Penn State. They you know, bulked up the

1158
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 5: old line in the offseason with a bunch of free agents,

1159
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 5: signings Smith and you know, a couple other guys that

1160
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 5: I hope can give him some time there. But we'll see,

1161
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: we'll see if Aaron Rodgers's achilles holds up. And if it,

1162
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 5: let's be honest, they're on primetime like every single week

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Speaker 5: the first two months of the year.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't like the Jets, Well, sorry, because

1165
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Speaker 1: you're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Be watching them in primetime games pretty much the entire season,

1167
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 5: and this kind of goes hand in hand. You'll notice

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 5: a team with a lot of these the Bengals, you know,

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Speaker 5: after last year, I was very high on Joe Burrow.

1170
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 5: I put a couple MVP bets on him during his

1171
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 5: little up and down stretch and then obviously the final

1172
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Speaker 5: blow with the injury I think it was early November

1173
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 5: or late late October, kind of put them to sleep,

1174
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 5: put the.

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Speaker 1: Kiddies to sleep after Burrow went down.

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Speaker 5: But I think with Burrow healthy, this is a Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl contender and we'll see everything I've heard he looks

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Speaker 5: like Anakin Skywalker and Revenge of the Sith.

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Speaker 1: But everything I've heard.

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Speaker 5: Is positive on the on the injury front with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: And the final one is the Eagles because again, I

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Speaker 5: just I think this is a team that I like

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00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 5: teams or at least interesting. I'm interested in teams that

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00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 5: had high hopes last year underachieved.

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Speaker 1: How do they spawn from that?

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Speaker 5: And I think Philly situation, especially the Saquon Barkley addition,

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Speaker 5: I think makes them a lot more intriguing when they

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 5: play the Giants like those games are gonna be unbelievably heated.

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Speaker 5: That rivalry always is. But there's a lot of upside,

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Speaker 5: I think with Philly, and it's just a matter of

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Speaker 5: can they put it all together. They didn't last year.

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Speaker 5: They really fell apart down the stretch. But there's more

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Speaker 5: talent in that room than that final score, let on

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Speaker 5: in that playoff game. So I think Philly is a

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Speaker 5: very interesting team to see how they bounce back here

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Speaker 5: in twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of interesting teams. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: go anywhere here. I'll go my top three here.

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Speaker 2: So number three, I feel like there might be pushback

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Speaker 2: with my list, at least with a couple of them.

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Speaker 2: You don't say, yeah, number three, how about them Cowboys?

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Speaker 2: And you can sit here and oh, here we go again,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Oh we have there all these offseasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what they remind me of. They remind

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Speaker 2: me of sports radio haters. Okay, where you guys have

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01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: all dealt with this. I'm sure over the years where

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Speaker 2: someone will tweet or call in and be like.

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Speaker 1: Why are you talking about this topic again? But here's

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Speaker 1: my opinion on it. That's the Dallas cowboys.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what they are is oh roll your eyes.

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: Who cares about the cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I think about Dak, Here's what I think

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Speaker 2: about Mike McCarthy, YadA YadA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still interesting.

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Speaker 2: Number two shout out to Chris Purfett on The Show

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Speaker 2: with Us here, technical producer.

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Lion Dan Campbell's freaking crazy. You don't know

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Speaker 1: what he's gonna do.

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna do something reckless. But they're interesting, and

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01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: they've got a couple of new corners. You get Carlton

1222
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: Davis from Tampa, you get Terry and Arnold from Alabama.

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01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: I think they've made great upgrades with what really held

1224
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: them back last season. I'm really interested to see if

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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: they can take that next step.

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01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: And they're just freaking grinders.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you get a primetime game with Detroit,

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Speaker 2: you know they're going all out. So I'm interested in them,

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Speaker 2: and I'm with you guys, it's the Jets. The Jets

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Speaker 2: are number one. Are they gonna boom? They're gonna bust?

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Speaker 2: You get Aaron Rodgers. They're absolutely the most interesting because

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: there's so much unknown with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's hard to disagree with most

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Speaker 3: Interesting lists because there is like a pile of super

1235
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Speaker 3: interesting teams at the tippy top of the league.

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Speaker 4: You know, you gotta throw the Chiefs in there.

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Speaker 3: I guess right, because of the Taylor Swift thing, the

1238
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Speaker 3: storyline with the back to back Super Bowl championships, the

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Speaker 3: back to back Super Bowl MVPs from mahomes.

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Speaker 4: Can they three peat? I mean, my goodness, like.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot there that's interesting to me. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot there.

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01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: And so I mean you kind of bounce from division

1244
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 3: to division, and you could make an argument in most

1245
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: divisions for at least one team standing heads and shoulders

1246
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Speaker 3: above the rest, as like, wow, well that team's definitely interesting.

1247
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: But then the second place team is interesting too. And

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Speaker 3: I may have overthought it a little bit with my

1249
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 3: most Interesting lists because I added the Nenver Broncos there.

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Speaker 3: But it's really it's really relying on bon Nicks being him.

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01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: It's really relying on him becoming what Sean Payton hopes

1252
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: he was when he drafted him twelve overall. Because yeah,

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Speaker 3: insert the San Francisco forty nine ers, Insert Jim.

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01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's new look Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we could go hours talking about most interesting

1256
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: in terms of least interesting. Yeah, man, I don't even

1257
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: want to save it for last. I'll give you the

1258
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: other two kind of also runs. I want to spend

1259
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: a little time talking about the New York Giants. Wow,

1260
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: my goodness.

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Speaker 1: You are spoiled being in market number one.

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Speaker 3: And again we talked about markets and how much or

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01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: how little they have influence on whatever. But it's market one,

1264
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: Like you have the biggest audience. You are a you know,

1265
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: team that is now reaching yearning for the dynasty years

1266
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: with Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: Like this is a team that kind.

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 3: Of like hated to love Eli Manning and now they're

1269
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 3: begging for anybody to resemble him remotely. At quarterback, Daniel

1270
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: Jones is your quarterback. After the season he had whoa what? Okay,

1271
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: Brian Dayball, you know you want to talk about getting

1272
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: in your lab and cooking up some schemes. The New

1273
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: York Giants followed up a terrible season with having one

1274
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: of the most boring off seasons in drafts I've ever seen.

1275
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: So I mean, it felt like Saquon Barkley signed with

1276
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: a division rival almost as much out of chasing the

1277
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Speaker 3: best contract he could.

1278
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: To but also spite like like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's an insane it's an insane path that

1280
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: we're on with the New York Giants. But I mean,

1281
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: considering how much they have at their doorstep, how much

1282
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: access they have to media hype, the the New York

1283
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 3: Giants are like extraordinarily low on my list in terms

1284
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: of teams that I'm interested in seeing performed this season,

1285
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 3: and they're absolutely crushed by their division rivals. Philadelphia way

1286
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: more interesting, Dallas Cowboys, way way more interesting, the Redskins

1287
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 3: even or excuse me, the Commanders even way more.

1288
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just way more interesting than the New

1289
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: York Giants.

1290
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 3: So there there's that the other two that'll quickly sneak

1291
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: in the New Orleans snate the Saints.

1292
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: They do nothing for me.

1293
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: Derek Carr, the Dennis Allen, ah the Saints, you know,

1294
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: and then.

1295
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: The vision is pretty the whole division's Frankly Berry uninteresting.

1296
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 4: And then and then throwing the Arizona Cardinals.

1297
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: I I just again, Jonathan Gannon, I mean, I don't know,

1298
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: it just it's it's not doing anything for me.

1299
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: And then the division.

1300
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 3: You look around that division so much more interested in

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: what happens with the ram in the San Francisco forty

1302
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: nine ers. Curious about the Seattle Seahawks, much less so

1303
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: than the other two I just mentioned. But the Arizona

1304
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: Cardinals right now, they are very low on the interest

1305
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: registered scale right now. So there's a list for you.

1306
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 5: Rick throwing shaded is form a team Desert Boys not

1307
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 5: loving too much with the Cardinals. I think if Gannon,

1308
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 5: we'll see, well, I'll have some interesting conversations about the Cardinals,

1309
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 5: I think at some point this year.

1310
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: But I agree overall, down all right, these three are

1311
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: I always say it's easier to pick the.

1312
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 5: Teams that you think are going to stink than the

1313
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 5: teams that are you think they're going to be good.

1314
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 5: I think this team is a bit of an upset

1315
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 5: on the non interesting list because last year we were

1316
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 5: very high on them, and this is the Jaguars.

1317
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: What happened to the Jaguars?

1318
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 5: They're like an endangered species now like last year, this

1319
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 5: time they were odds on to win their division. The

1320
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 5: rest of the division was terrible, right used in terrible

1321
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 5: Tennessee with love is terrible. Well, guess what, now you're

1322
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 5: maybe the third best team in this division. I mean,

1323
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 5: I think you're definitely fighting for second. We'll see what

1324
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 5: the Will Levis Titans situation evolves to. But I think

1325
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 5: the Titans have definitely gotten better and the Jaguars have not.

1326
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: They lost Calvin Ridley, they did bring in Gabe Davis,

1327
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: and they.

1328
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 5: Drafted a receiver. But I think you know what's Trevor

1329
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 5: Lawrence right now? And their dogs and three out of

1330
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 5: their first four games, they're three and a half point

1331
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 5: dogs at Miami, four and a half point dogs at Buffalo,

1332
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 5: three and a half point dogs at US And they

1333
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 5: could start one and three, by the way, picked them

1334
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 5: against Cleveland, go ahead.

1335
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: That's part of the reason why I love you.

1336
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: You've got the Jags first three games, the points spreads,

1337
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: all map debts.

1338
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: I've got Brian right, I'm a man. Do you want

1339
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: to hear something sick?

1340
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 5: The moment the schedule came out and they dropped all

1341
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 5: the they have odds for all eighteen weeks.

1342
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: I made a.

1343
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 5: Matrix of all two and seventy two games. I know

1344
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 5: which every team is favored by in which game. How

1345
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 5: many times you're a favorite, how many times you're I'm

1346
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 5: a six sick man?

1347
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: Betiful, beautiful right there?

1348
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 5: Why we digress speaking of underdogs in a lot of games,

1349
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: the New Wink freaking Patriots.

1350
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

1351
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: The New England Patriots are underdogs in sixteen out of

1352
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 5: seventeen games, people, And they're an underdog of.

1353
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: More than a field goal, more than a field goal.

1354
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: In thirteen of their seventeen games.

1355
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

1356
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you want to talk about teams that

1357
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,440
Speaker 5: might be completely on the scrap heap come like Halloween,

1358
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 5: it could be really scary for this Patriots team. And

1359
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 5: I don't know what, like what is their redeeming quality?

1360
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett Like, I just I don't know what we're

1361
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 5: gonna do here with this team, Drake Mays, I mean,

1362
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 5: we'll see.

1363
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: And then another one is the Raiders again, the Raiders.

1364
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 5: The first two weeks you go to La to face

1365
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 5: the Chargers and Hardball, and then you go to the Ravens.

1366
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 5: I mean, those are two really tough games right out

1367
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 5: of the gate, and Vegas fifteen times. They will be

1368
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 5: an underdog at least the pre flop numbers. We'll see

1369
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 5: how the you know, the numbers change as we go forward.

1370
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 5: And Gardner Minshew like, its just talk about the most

1371
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 5: lead he might be the least least interesting quarterback in

1372
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 5: the NFL right now, So I think Vegas, New England

1373
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 5: and the Jags like I could.

1374
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: Really care less.

1375
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'll give you my three least interesting in

1376
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 2: a minute. Here first, though, the most interesting update anchor

1377
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: in the business, Steve de Seger. I'm kidding, I'd like.

1378
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: I was misquoted. It's Ilo Is. He's got the latest too.

1379
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: We all make mistakes. Oh god, that's gonna happen.

1380
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 8: Prepare to check your mentions, all my burner accounts.

1381
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 4: All least.

1382
01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 8: As I was going to say before I was hit

1383
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 8: below the belt there from that, as we speak, I

1384
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 8: am looking at the matrix that Jared Smith max and

1385
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,879
Speaker 8: I am. I am actually trapped in the matrix, and Jared,

1386
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 8: you're you are under selling it.

1387
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: He is, mister Smith. Now, in addition to.

1388
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 8: The odds on all two hundred and seventy two games,

1389
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 8: it's hard to no, it's hard to do it. It's

1390
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 8: hard to do it justice because each game has varying

1391
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 8: degrees of color coding as it relates to the odd guy. Okay,

1392
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 8: two different shades of red. There's a warm red and

1393
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 8: a hot red. Two different shades of green and then

1394
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 8: the team colors.

1395
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like an arts and craft project.

1396
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just looked at it. It's beautiful.

1397
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: It really is. It really is.

1398
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: But Jared, if I didn't know you virgin, yeah, yeah, beautiful.

1399
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 5: No, No, I think I haven't had a das of

1400
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 5: the Truman administration. If there's any women in Vegas who

1401
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 5: are single that would like to pull me out of

1402
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 5: the matrix.

1403
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 8: I mean, this is the brad shade of Jacksonville Jaguars teal.

1404
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: Amazing.

1405
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 8: In Jared's defense, there has to be I mean, look,

1406
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 8: what's the population of Earth?

1407
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: What? Five six billions? Not enough, Isaac, It's not enough.

1408
01:11:54,240 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 8: Mathematically colonize mathematically. There has to be of there just

1409
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,959
Speaker 8: has to be one out of two point five billion,

1410
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 8: three billion women. They would appreciate the level of color

1411
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 8: coding and detail going into this matrix.

1412
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I love guys. I do

1413
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: it all for you, man.

1414
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 8: And this is just the stuff we know about anyway.

1415
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 8: Alrighty onto less interesting news outside the matrix. Multiple outlets

1416
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 8: report it overnight. Sacabto King's head coach Mike Brown has

1417
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 8: agreed to a new contract extension the twenty twenty six

1418
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 8: to twenty seven campaign worth eight point five million dollars

1419
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 8: a year, But can he color code in Microsoft XL.

1420
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: Here's how Game.

1421
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 8: Five of the NHL's Western Conference Finals ended on Friday night.

1422
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,440
Speaker 8: This is courtesy of Jack Michaels on cched.

1423
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna win Game five. The others are gonna be

1424
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: one win away to the Stanley Cup Final. Hit the

1425
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: top three, jealous one. The Oilers close it out in.

1426
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 5: A long star state and they're sixty minutes away from

1427
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 5: the Stanley Cup Final.

1428
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 8: And related story, Jared was just that enthusiastic when he

1429
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 8: concluded his NFL I was.

1430
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: His point really was, I couldn't wait to tweet it out.

1431
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, keep that man out of a highlight er. Second.

1432
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: Have you seen the thing I'm doing with the with

1433
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: the whiteboard? Now I'm doing that thing too. I like that.

1434
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm all kinds of weird guys. I think it's cool.

1435
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 8: Like I said, this is just about the stuff we

1436
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 8: know about.

1437
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1438
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 8: In Major League Major League Baseball on Friday night, the

1439
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 8: New York Yankees one in San Francisco sixty two. Aaron

1440
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 8: Judge had two home runs, becoming the first of the

1441
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 8: Majors to twenty home runs, concluding a month of May

1442
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 8: that saw a judge hit fourteen home runs that have

1443
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 8: twenty seven RBI in the Mary Mary month of May,

1444
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 8: the Colorado Rockies to be the Los Angeles Dodgers in

1445
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 8: LA four to one, and while Jared was excited about spreadsheets,

1446
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 8: rich Ornberger excited about.

1447
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: His San Diego Padres.

1448
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 8: They scored nine runs at the top half of the

1449
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 8: eighthentic to win of Kansas City eleven to eight. Luis

1450
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 8: Arrives four for five, his fourth four hit game in

1451
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 8: just twenty four games in a Padre uniform.

1452
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: Spreadsheet forthcoming from Rich.

1453
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 8: Now, would there be a all right, let's compare Rich

1454
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 8: Ornberger smoking meats on the grill Jared Smith spreadsheets on

1455
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 8: Twitter color code of discuss.

1456
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: Back to you. Yeah, I don't know, man. That's uh,

1457
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: that's a party I want to be invited to Saturday.

1458
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: No women allowed. But we got by the way. By

1459
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: the way, kids, this is what your thirties and forties look. Yes,

1460
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: buggle up.

1461
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 5: This is forty forty midlife crisis spreadsheets alone with a

1462
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 5: dog on the couch.

1463
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: Beats in your yard. That's right, locking in literal sausage party. Literally.

1464
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, yeah, Jared, you're big on highlighters.

1465
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm big on white out.

1466
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 2: Okay, I've made an alteration to my three least interesting teams.

1467
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: We'll get to that right around the corner. Also, prop

1468
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: it up. We got prop bets to discuss a little

1469
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: two for one combo platter on the way. It is

1470
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It

1471
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, quickly,

1472
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: my three least interesting NFL teams, we'll get to prop

1473
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: it up.

1474
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: I made a change. I'm gonna be honest with you guys.

1475
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 2: Okay, start with number number one is the Carroll Number one,

1476
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 2: they're just boring.

1477
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: They won two games last season. Not interesting. Number two.

1478
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 1: Least interest Number two, it'd be the New York Giants.

1479
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: Rich, this is your team. Uh, there's always a counter argument.

1480
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: They drafted, uh Malik should be really interesting. They traded

1481
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: for Brian Burns. But I mean, you've got to have

1482
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: a bottom three, and if the Giants are on a

1483
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 2: primetime game, I don't think the first thought is ooh.

1484
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: Malik neighbors, Ooh Brian Burns.

1485
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: You're thinking, ugh, Daniel Jones, you know, right, like that's

1486
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,480
Speaker 2: that's just not interesting.

1487
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: Number three.

1488
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: I was aially gonna go with the Raiders because they

1489
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback. Not interested in Adan O'Connell or

1490
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew. Sorry, they're not going anywhere. The AFC is loaded,

1491
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 2: we know what it is. But they do have Devonte Adams,

1492
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: They've got Max Crosby, they have the Mahomes rules now

1493
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: right with Antonio Piers knocking him around and all that.

1494
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: I gotta put the Patriots there because although they have

1495
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: Drake may and I'm interested to see what he does,

1496
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: they have a new head coach in girod Mayo.

1497
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: It's just a boring roster. It's a boring team right now.

1498
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: Put it this way, if the Patriots or the Raiders

1499
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: are featured in a primetime matchup, who are you more

1500
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: interested in watching?

1501
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,520
Speaker 1: It's easily the Raiders agree.

1502
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 5: Because of the defense with especially they brought him over.

1503
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 5: That defense is gonna be pretty good with Pierce, but

1504
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:13,520
Speaker 5: the offense.

1505
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: With minshees like, yeah, yeah, So I have to put

1506
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots in my bottom three, like the least interesting teams.

1507
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 1: They would come in third place. Madrid's underwin totals.

1508
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 5: Bet I'm making very soon people like almost maybe this week,

1509
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 5: like really soon there you go?

1510
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 4: There?

1511
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: Do they have the best odds of landing the number

1512
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: one overall pick.

1513
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 5: It's kind of I was looking at their so a

1514
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 5: couple of markets are kind of split on them in

1515
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 5: terms of worse, Like the Panthers are still a lot

1516
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 5: of like they have the best odds to have no wins,

1517
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 5: so like you know, and it's it's kind of uses

1518
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 5: like the same markets to kind of pull from that. Yeah,

1519
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 5: like there's some there's some you know, indecision on who

1520
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 5: is really the worst team. I don't think there's any

1521
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 5: indecision in my mind. I think the Patriots are the

1522
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 5: worst team in the league this year. Okay, I think

1523
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 5: they'll have the worst record.

1524
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff. We got to do some prop that's over here.

1525
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Prop it up. Player plays all right, Jared,

1526
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: we'll start with you. Where are you taking us here? Yeah?

1527
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 5: Interesting game today, And Brian, we were talking about your

1528
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 5: Cardinals recently, like every time, like we were getting ready

1529
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 5: to fire the GM a couple of weeks ago. Ever

1530
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 5: since then, they they're like on fire. Well, they lost

1531
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 5: last night. They're facing the Phillies, and they have another

1532
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 5: tough matchup today against the Phillies, and it's Ranger Suarez

1533
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 5: on the mound, and I just man, I got a

1534
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 5: Cardinals ticket to win the division. I hope I'm wrong

1535
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 5: about this. I hope they light him up today. But

1536
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 5: Ranger Suarez has been so good this year, so we're

1537
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 5: gonna go under five and a half hits aloud because

1538
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 5: he has been unbelievable under this in nine of eleven

1539
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 5: and the Cardinals, as you know, Brian awful for some reason,

1540
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 5: awful against lefties this year twenty seventh and WRC flause

1541
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 5: and for some reason, the Phillies have been a little

1542
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 5: conservative with Rangers, so I think if he does get

1543
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 5: into trouble, they'll go to the bullfen under five and

1544
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 5: a half hits aloud for the Lackey Ranger Suarez today

1545
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 5: against our beloved with Saint Louis Cardinals.

1546
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 4: Okay, another interesting matchup today.

1547
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: One ten first pitch out in Kansas City, or I

1548
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 3: should say one ten first pitch West Coast time for

1549
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 3: the Padres against the Royals.

1550
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 4: Padres, a team I followed closely.

1551
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 3: Muskrove not a big strikeout pitcher, however, He's been very

1552
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 3: effective through the month of May. Kansas City, though swings

1553
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: and misses.

1554
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: Out a lot of stuff.

1555
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 3: MLB team strikeouts per game, Kansas City in second place

1556
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 3: seven per game. They matched that total through the lineup

1557
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 3: against all pitchers yesterday in an eleven nine loss to

1558
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: the Padres. Muskrove on the mound effective this season. I'm

1559
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 3: taking over four strikeouts in this this start for Joe Muskrove.

1560
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're gonna have to wait a little bit

1561
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 2: for this first pick. I'm gonna take Luka Doncic under

1562
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: thirty and a half points.

1563
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 1: Hey, game one.

1564
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not a score fest, especially with Dallas.

1565
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Boston really good. You just saw him go crazy.

1566
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: He scored twenty points in one quarter against Minnesota.

1567
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fade him in Game one.

1568
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take under thirty and a half for Luca

1569
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: Magic and listen, Aaron Judge has just been an extra

1570
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: base hit machine.

1571
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: He's facing Logan Webb. He's really good.

1572
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: Of the Giants here today, I'm gonna take over one

1573
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: and a half total bases for Aaron Judge.

1574
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: He's just been red hot. Jared right Uh ride the hot.

1575
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: Bats I like, here you go, TV, all right, coming

1576
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 2: up next, a new role for this mystery player. Okay,

1577
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: so we might have a new role for this mystery quarterback.

1578
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: That would be Steeler's backup quarterback Justin Fields. Okay, So

1579
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: remember there was some talk Steelers running back Jalen Warren

1580
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: was like, you know, special teams coach kicking around the

1581
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: idea of j Fields returning kicks. Now that we have

1582
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: these rule chick here Justin Fields. Earlier this week, he says,

1583
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 2: I don't plan on returning kicks.

1584
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: I don't plan on doing that.

1585
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: But there have been some discussions about Justin Fields in

1586
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 2: the red zone, Justin Field's being used from the ten

1587
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: yard line in right, maybe a special package of plays, yeah,

1588
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: for Justin Fields in that area.

1589
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: Now we're talking to the wildfield.

1590
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 2: What do you think about taking Russell Wilson off the

1591
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: field when you get into the red zone some people

1592
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: say the green zone.

1593
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: Because it's the money area, and putting in Justin Fields

1594
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: cold off the bench.

1595
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: Just hey, get us six points over here, Jay Fields,

1596
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 2: what do you think.

1597
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 1: About that strategy? I think it freaking sucks. I love you.

1598
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: I that was perfect. I love it. I love it

1599
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: and here's the reason why. It only if it works.

1600
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 3: Now, if he's incapable to your point of coming in

1601
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 3: cold and being effective, and scrap it immediately, because the

1602
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 3: football is the most important thing on the planet when

1603
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 3: you're playing that game between those white lines for those

1604
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: three hours or so. And if he can't handle holding

1605
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 3: on to the football or making good decisions or not

1606
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: making mental errors because he's coming in to the game cold,

1607
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: then scrap it.

1608
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: It's not worth it.

1609
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: But the multiplicity that it gives you, and the diversion

1610
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 3: that it gives you, and the expansion of your playbook

1611
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 3: that it gives you. Having a Swiss Army knife down

1612
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 3: near the goal line who can do a couple of

1613
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 3: different things for you is incredible. Just think about Taysom

1614
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: Hill and what he meant to the Sean Payton playbook

1615
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 3: when he was the head coach for the New Orleans

1616
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 3: Saints with Drew Brees.

1617
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's good. It's just good.

1618
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 3: Having a guy who can take snaps, who can you

1619
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 3: can line up, you know, off tackle or in the

1620
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: or you know, slotted out at a wide receiver position,

1621
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: who who knows you could pitch the ball out to

1622
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: him and he could throw the football downfield. Whatever it

1623
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: may be. I really dig the concept. But again to

1624
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: your point, Brian, if it doesn't work, you gotta scrap

1625
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 3: it immediately because you don't want to get cute with

1626
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: the football when the organization is riding on those moments

1627
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 3: where you're twenty yards and in.

1628
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it is it more of an indictment

1629
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 5: on Russell Wilson than anything else.

1630
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: Now, Russell said all the right things.

1631
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 5: In fact, I'm reading a quote right now where Russell

1632
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 5: Wilson called Justin a franchise quarterback.

1633
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: You can agree with that or not.

1634
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 5: But I think it's more of a hey, we brought

1635
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 5: this Russ guy in. We don't know what he has

1636
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 5: left justin be ready. We might need you like just

1637
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 5: be ready, and who knows justin? Might you know do

1638
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 5: great and can't like you know, that's the beauty of

1639
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 5: where I think some of these teams are with some

1640
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 5: of these uncertain quarterback situations. And I know you know

1641
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 5: those are two names that we recognize, Fields and Wilson,

1642
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 5: But the Steelers quarterback situation is very unsettled.

1643
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: It could go in multiple different directions.

1644
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 5: I think the Steelers hope that Justin Fields wakes up

1645
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 5: and figures it out and the change of scenery, the

1646
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 5: light bulb goes on and he takes over the job

1647
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 5: because I think he has more upside, right, ceiling higher,

1648
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 5: floor lower, I think with with Justin Fields, whereas maybe

1649
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 5: the floor is still pretty low with Wilson, but there

1650
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 5: is a floor. I think his numbers last year in

1651
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 5: Denver we're decent, but just not as you know, lofty,

1652
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 5: as someone who was making the money that he was making,

1653
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 5: and the Broncos, you know, the injury, the contract, all

1654
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 5: that stuff, decided to move on.

1655
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: But there's still some I guess, a flicker of hope.

1656
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 5: I guess the question is, and I'm not a Steelers fan,

1657
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 5: so I can't answer this.

1658
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: If you're a Steelers.

1659
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 5: Fan, Let's pull up the matrix really quick and see

1660
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 5: who they play week one?

1661
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, because let's be honest.

1662
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 5: If I'm gonna take all this time to make this thing,

1663
01:24:58,640 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna freaking use it.

1664
01:24:59,760 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1665
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 5: All Right, they're two and a half point doll Isn't

1666
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 5: this great? They're two and a half point dog in Atlanta. Now,

1667
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 5: of course that could change before we get to week one,

1668
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 5: but they're probably gonna be an underdog Week one. It's

1669
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 5: gonna be a road game Atlanta, Kirk Cousins, That play

1670
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 5: is gonna be fired up the new new regime coming

1671
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 5: in odds are they start on one? I think that

1672
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 5: makes sense to me, and then they go on the

1673
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 5: road and play Denver. Oh, isn't that fun we do

1674
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 5: at Denver? Russell Wilson back with the Broncos.

1675
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. My guess is you see Justin.

1676
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 5: Fields a lot or at some point incapacity in those

1677
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 5: first two games, and I don't think it matters what

1678
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 5: his role is.

1679
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: You gotta get this guy on the field and see

1680
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: what he's got.

1681
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 2: Listen, if I'm gonna be fair here, let's do a

1682
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,480
Speaker 2: little best case and worst case scenario with Justin Fields.

1683
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 2: Maybe the Steelers using him in the red zone or

1684
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: between the ten yard line and the goal line. Let's

1685
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 2: just play this out. So best case scenario, you start

1686
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 2: with the athletic ability, the running ability. He's sensational. Everybody

1687
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 2: knows that, and so in a tight area on the field,

1688
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: right ten yard line in where everything gets compressed, having

1689
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: that element, yeah, it could make a difference. There's no doubt.

1690
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,520
Speaker 2: That's the best case scenarios. He can use that athleticism

1691
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh's favor. The downside to this is Justin Fields,

1692
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to throw the ball at some point,

1693
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: even in the red zone or the ten yard line

1694
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: in you just have to.

1695
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: This isn't like they're running the wing t This.

1696
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 2: Isn't like a service academy, and they're primarily running the option.

1697
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna have to throw the ball as well,

1698
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 2: and that's something that Justin Field certainly has not come

1699
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: close to excelling it.

1700
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: That is not a specialty.

1701
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: And now he's coming off the bench in an area

1702
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 2: this is the money area, and.

1703
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: He's not involved in the game.

1704
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 2: He's not warm, and yeah he can run at times,

1705
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: but he's gonna have to throw it, and in this

1706
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: compressed area, I just don't see how that's gonna work

1707
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 2: out more.

1708
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Times than not.

1709
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 2: So, if I'm being objective here, it's a nice thought.

1710
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're gonna have as much success

1711
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: with it as some might think because he was named

1712
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: QB two.

1713
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: From the beginning.

1714
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they had Russell Wilson in place, they brought

1715
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: Justin Fields on board, and Mike Tomlin is like, make

1716
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 2: no mistake, Russell Wilson is QB one for now, and

1717
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: so he was that emphatic. Yet we're gonna trust justin

1718
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 2: fields in the most important area on the football field

1719
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: and expect it to just be sunshine and rainbows.

1720
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't buy it at all.

1721
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see your point, and I I really do

1722
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: appreciate the thought that you put into defending your argument.

1723
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 3: Your side of the argument is valid, and it is

1724
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 3: one of those really tenuous situations that you enter into

1725
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,480
Speaker 3: when you have two guys who are capable of starting

1726
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 3: games in your offensive backfield battling for the same spot.

1727
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 1: Because it is a battle.

1728
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: Whether anybody wants to admit it or not, Oh, there

1729
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 3: is a battle.

1730
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: Going on, and there will be sides picked.

1731
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: There'll be certain players on the roster depending on how

1732
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 3: clear it is who's winning.

1733
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: This battle that choose fields.

1734
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 3: And there will be the Wilson camp and same in

1735
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 3: the coaching staff. It's impossible for the room not to

1736
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 3: be divided. I think back to when Mark Sanchez was

1737
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: a starting quarterback in New York and Tim Tebow was

1738
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 3: signed as his backup, and the entire time that offseason,

1739
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 3: I was thinking to myself oh, this can be a

1740
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 3: disaster for the Jets because you can't have a popular

1741
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 3: backup quarterback who has starts and wins under his belt,

1742
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 3: because at first sight of any sort of weakness in

1743
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: the armor in terms of your starting quarterback, the chants

1744
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 3: are gonna start raining down from the fans or the

1745
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 3: crowd in New York asking for the backup. And the

1746
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 3: same could be true with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So everything

1747
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 3: you just said is valid. But I will say this,

1748
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 3: if somehow these roles are defined, If somehow Wilson is

1749
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, they're the no brainer starter here. And

1750
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 3: Justin Fields is a team first guy, there is a

1751
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 3: way for this to work. And winning cures everything. So

1752
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 3: if the Steelers roar out to an early successful campaign,

1753
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 3: you know, three and one through the first three game,

1754
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 3: four games or something like that, and Justin Fields has

1755
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 3: helped in some you know, situational spots and Russell Wilson

1756
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 3: looks great, well, then guess what, everything's baby. But if

1757
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 3: real Wilson is struggling and Fields is having success in

1758
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 3: those critical moments, trust me when I tell you the

1759
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 3: fans will be calling for Justin Fields and Mike Tomlin

1760
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 3: will have a huge problem on his hands.

1761
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the part of it where I'm

1762
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 5: I don't I'm not debating at all that that Russell

1763
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 5: should start the season as the starter or at least camp.

1764
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 5: You know, injuries could happen, but at least start. You know,

1765
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 5: camp is the number one. That's that's a no brainer.

1766
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 5: But I think it's also fair to say his leash

1767
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 5: will be very short because you do have a guy

1768
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 5: that was a high draft pick, had a lot of

1769
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 5: you know, had a lot of clout in his direction,

1770
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:47,440
Speaker 5: didn't work out in Chicago, but still a lot of upside.

1771
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 5: Like again, the ceiling I think on Justin Fields is high.

1772
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 1: The floor is ridiculously low. It's like beneath our feet,

1773
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: but the ceiling.

1774
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 5: Is is higher, right, Like, I think we can agree

1775
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 5: on that, Brian, if in an optimal in a vacuum,

1776
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 5: the ceiling on Justin Fields currently is still higher because

1777
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 5: of the athleticism. But it's all the other things that

1778
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 5: he hasn't figured out yet. Maybe the change of scenery

1779
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 5: will help him put some of those Rubik's cube you know,

1780
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 5: squares in the right place so they're aligning with the

1781
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 5: right colors, Like my matrix, but it's so he's But

1782
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 5: I just I think in itself, i'd be shocked if

1783
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 5: it's not Russ right out of the gate, If it's

1784
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 5: not Russ week two at Denver, give him that chance

1785
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: to go into his old building, and you know, because

1786
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 5: now that we know how things ended in Denver with

1787
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 5: the injury and the contract and what they asked Russ

1788
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 5: to do, like, that's gonna be a really interesting game. Frankly,

1789
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 5: I wish they put that game week one, but I think,

1790
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 5: you know, at Atlanta week one, I think to have

1791
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 5: them going because Justin Fields was even rumored to go

1792
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,799
Speaker 5: to Atlanta and and didn't and it was Cousins instead.

1793
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: But those two games right out of the gate are

1794
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: very interesting. I'll leave it at this.

1795
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 5: I would be shocked if Justin Fields does not see

1796
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 5: the field at some point in those first two games.

1797
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 5: I just don't know what capacity or how good he's

1798
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 5: gonna play.

1799
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy to me is I don't think

1800
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 2: any of us are looking at the Steelers as this

1801
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 2: team that's going to make major noise.

1802
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: Right. That's fair to say, isn't it. Yeah, But they'll

1803
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: still finish five hundred, right, or just the year they don't.

1804
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is they went ten and seven

1805
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 2: last year, Right, they won ten games and their quarterbacks

1806
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 2: combined to throw thirteen touchdown passes in nine interceptions.

1807
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, they're eleven games this year out of

1808
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 5: the gate, so they're not favored to go five hundred

1809
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 5: or better.

1810
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: Right, So we're not expecting the two headed monster of

1811
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and Justin Fields to put up these gaudy

1812
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 2: quarterback stats, you know, but can they do better than

1813
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 2: thirteen touchdown passes and nine interceptions? Probably? Look at Russell

1814
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 2: Wilson last season. He put up numbers he actually did

1815
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: pretty well individually.

1816
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: So that's the question I have.

1817
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: If Russell Wilson is QB one throughout most of the

1818
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 2: season and he puts up numbers that are comparable to

1819
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 2: what he did last season, then where are the Steelers?

1820
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: They won ten games.

1821
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 2: With quarterbacks that throw thirteen touchdown passes.

1822
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: That's unheard of.

1823
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: So that's the main question I have is how good

1824
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 2: can Pittsburgh be if they get noticeably better quarterback play?

1825
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 2: And where the bar was set last year, right, that

1826
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 2: shouldn't be a bar that Russell Wilson can't pull vault over, right,

1827
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 2: and then where does that leave the Black and Gold

1828
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 2: if that's the case, Because what's their win total at

1829
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 2: do you have that in the matrix there?

1830
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't have the win totals, but I can

1831
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 5: tell you that their fate their dogs in eleven game

1832
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 5: and they're they aren't favored by more than four in

1833
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 5: any game all year, which.

1834
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: Is on the lower end of this on the spectrum.

1835
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: So again, looks like they're eight and a half a half. Yeah, yeah,

1836
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: like they're not expected.

1837
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 5: Like I'll be honest, that feels like an underd of

1838
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 5: me like that, Like like you know, first, like if

1839
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 5: you tell me eight and a half, like that means

1840
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 5: they have to win nine games and finish above five hundred,

1841
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 5: Well guess what they're they're underdogs in in eleven out

1842
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 5: of those games.

1843
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 2: That's true, But what did the last couple of seasons

1844
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: feel like? Also, sure, you know, and I don't have

1845
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: the make game last.

1846
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 5: Year, but yeah, I'll have to find it.

1847
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: What was the.

1848
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 4: Kenny we had?

1849
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 2: The Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky, Mason Rudolph, three headed monster

1850
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 2: at quarterback?

1851
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 1: Like they're better at quarterback this year. Yes they are.

1852
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: They are.

1853
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 3: I will say this though, a collection of stars does

1854
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 3: not make a team. Culture as everything, and who knows.

1855
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean, as bad as that sounded what you just said, Brian,

1856
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 3: when you have Trubisky and Pickett and Rudolph as you're

1857
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 3: starting three quarterbacks throughout the course of a season, and

1858
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: the statistics the touchdowns to interceptions thrown throughout the season

1859
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 3: from all three, I mean.

1860
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: That is awful. That is grotesque.

1861
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 3: However, maybe culturally those three quarterbacks fit the culture of

1862
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 3: the Steelers better than the two better quarterbacks that they

1863
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 3: just brought in. Culture is everything in football. If you

1864
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 3: don't have a good culture in the locker room, you

1865
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 3: have nothing. This isn't baseball, This isn't hey. You know,

1866
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 3: we got nine guys and nine different taxis waiting for

1867
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 3: him as soon as the game ends. You know, it's

1868
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 3: it is what it is. These guys hate each other.

1869
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 3: But you know, baseball's played in a vacuum. It's hit

1870
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 3: or pitcher. And you know, just because you don't like

1871
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 3: the guy on second, as long as you can, you know,

1872
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 3: get him in and score runs, we can keep the

1873
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 3: trains on the track.

1874
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 1: That's not football.

1875
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 4: Everybody's got to work with each other.

1876
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm not saying everybody's got to like each other, but

1877
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 3: you have to have a strong culture in place. And

1878
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 3: if you have two starting quarterbacks, the old adage says

1879
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 3: you have zero starting quarterbacks.

1880
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,799
Speaker 4: Well, last year the Steelers had zero.

1881
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 3: Starting quarterbacks and they were still able to have ten wins.

1882
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 3: Can they do it with two guys competing for the

1883
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 3: same spot? History will tell you no. So yeah, eight

1884
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 3: and a half feels like an under.

1885
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, I would bet under on Pittsburgh.

1886
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's that one team right where I

1887
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 2: get it. They're not sexy at all. They just aren't.

1888
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 2: But it's not all offense, right, it's not just and

1889
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 2: you do have weapons. You got George Pickens to throw

1890
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 2: it to, you got Najie Harris in the backfield, you.

1891
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 1: Got eating I do. I think Brown it's a really

1892
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 1: tough division.

1893
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 2: But even last year, I don't know how they beat

1894
01:36:58,240 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 2: the Ravens at home.

1895
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: I was on the Ravens in that game. That's why

1896
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 1: I remember. It was the ugliest win. I think. I've

1897
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers beat the Dolphins three nothing in that five

1898
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: one in the division last year. That's insane this year.

1899
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 5: I would bet a million dollars under five four and

1900
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 5: a half wins in the division this year.

1901
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1902
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 2: But that defense man, your guy, Joey Porter Junior, he's

1903
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 2: saying jackdown.

1904
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 4: Quarter over here.

1905
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: T J.

1906
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: Watt, you pick up Patrick Queen, linebacker from the Ravens. Good,

1907
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 2: it's a good defense. You still have Cam Hayward doing

1908
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: his thing.

1909
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 1: He's ageless.

1910
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: That's a team that just you look up and you're like,

1911
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: they've won four of five games.

1912
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 1: How did they do that? You know, and they're knocking

1913
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: on the door of another winning season. It's crazy. Hey.

1914
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Thoroughbred Racing has a new independent regulator HAISA that's implementing

1915
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 2: comprehensive reforms, and the sport is combining hands on training

1916
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: and cutting edge technology to help keep its athletes safe.

1917
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: To learn more, visit Safety Runs First dot com. That

1918
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 2: Safety Runs First dot com. All right, we've got Rich

1919
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 2: Orenberger Penn State All American, also the same college as

1920
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior and mouth our guy Pat Fryarmuth, love

1921
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 2: that guy. We also have Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

1922
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No coming up next. What do Bruce Hornsby

1923
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Tupac and Black Sabbath have to do with college football.

1924
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 1: I know that is a trifecta. Your best ever. Thank you.

1925
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. We'll give you the answer coming up.

1926
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1927
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

1928
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:49,440
Speaker 2: So Bruce Hornsby, Tupac, and Black Sabbath all made songs

1929
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: entitled changes. Right, we're seeing that in college football over here.

1930
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 2: So that's the tie in here. Now this might be

1931
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 2: the latest change for college football.

1932
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 1: They got to pay these athletes.

1933
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 2: Right in the sec they've voted unanimously on a settlement

1934
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 2: that would pay about twenty two percent of annual revenue

1935
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 2: to the athletes. That would start this next that would

1936
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 2: start next year if it's approved. So what are these

1937
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,440
Speaker 2: colleges doing. They're like, well, we got to make more cash.

1938
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 2: We got to make more cash now that we're giving

1939
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 2: some to the athletes over here. So one of the

1940
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 2: things they're talking about corporate logos on the football field.

1941
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 2: So there'd be one at the twenty five yard line,

1942
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 2: another one at the other twenty five yard line, and

1943
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 2: also at midfield. So what do you guys think instead

1944
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: of I'm trying to think off the top of my head,

1945
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 2: like the crimson a right, like at midfield for Alabama,

1946
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: you know how they have it's just like home depot.

1947
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Speaker 1: That's literally what I was thinking.

1948
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 2: And also they might do the patches on the jersey, well,

1949
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 2: corporate patches on player uniforms. Look, man, I think most

1950
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 2: of this people freaked out in baseball when they used

1951
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 2: to do this in the backdrop, and now it's just

1952
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 2: it's normal. The only thing I really pushed back on

1953
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: is corporate logos at midfield. I think that would look

1954
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 2: odd because you're used to seeing like the LSU right

1955
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 2: Like we went and visited LSU today, Mike the Tiger

1956
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 2: right across from the stadium.

1957
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Speaker 1: They've got the big Tiger at.

1958
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,799
Speaker 2: Midfield, and it's gonna be like a good Year logo

1959
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 2: or whatever it ha.

1960
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be odd. I think that's a bit much.

1961
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 2: Is the only thing I pushed back is advertising at midfield.

1962
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 3: Big Ozzy Osbourne fan, big Black Sabbath fin you nice?

1963
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:51,560
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah great? I mean I dug you know, Black Sabbath.

1964
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 3: You know Crazy Train, but I dug the ballads too,

1965
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 3: and Ozzy's later work, you know, changes was a good

1966
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 3: one with sabbath, my mom coming home, when he went,

1967
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 3: when he went solo. I love it all, but changes

1968
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,799
Speaker 3: starts out with these lyrics. I feel unhappy. I feel

1969
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 3: so sad.

1970
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 4: I lost the best friend that ever had.

1971
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 3: Wow, And that is how a lot of college football

1972
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 3: fans feel right now. It feels like the rugs been

1973
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 3: pulled right out from under your feet. It feels that

1974
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 3: you've lost the best friend that you had. You know what,

1975
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 3: as soon as it just sickened you, right as soon

1976
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 3: as it just it just you know, you're reading too

1977
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 3: many high, prized, entitled athletes just complaining about their working

1978
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,560
Speaker 3: conditions or the back to back flights in the NBA,

1979
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 3: or the holdouts in the NFL or Major League Baseball

1980
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 3: players considering a strike. Oh fooie, I'm going back to

1981
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 3: college football.

1982
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 1: It's pure. These kids just want to play for the

1983
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: love of the game. I want to go and I

1984
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,520
Speaker 1: want to talk about the big house and the swamp

1985
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: and Happy Valley and I.

1986
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 3: Just I just need to I just need to smell

1987
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 3: the colosseum, the fresh cut grass, right and now that's

1988
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 3: all been taken from us because there is no more purity.

1989
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 1: In college football.

1990
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 3: College football is impure, and maybe it always has been.

1991
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's a dirty little secret that maybe some

1992
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 3: of these players have been getting paid all along. Okay, okay,

1993
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 3: all right, but but that was away from the light

1994
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 3: of day, you know, the disinfectant of the UV rays

1995
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 3: of the sun, you know what I mean, whatever it is,

1996
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 3: the eight minutes it takes for sunlight to hit earth.

1997
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 4: For some reason, all of these coaches.

1998
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 3: Have been able to hide all of the uh, you know,

1999
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 3: the naughty little things they were doing on the recruiting

2000
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 3: trail under the rugs and under the couches before mom

2001
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 3: and dad came home. So that when you know, college

2002
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 3: football fans showed up and said, hey, Urban Meyer, are

2003
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 3: we sure everything up and up?

2004
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, yes, yes, nothing to see here. Okay, all right,

2005
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: just check in. We're gonna we're gonna go back to

2006
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: the pros for a little bit, but we're gonna.

2007
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 3: Come back and check in on you in August and

2008
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 3: we're expected to see some wins for oh State.

2009
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 1: Are we cool? Yeah, we're cool.

2010
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 3: Okay, good, that's all been taken away from us, and

2011
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are gonna have a

2012
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 3: hard time with that in the coming years because college

2013
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 3: football for the first time is going to feel just

2014
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 3: as dirty as the pros. And that is that is

2015
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 3: a change that a lot of people weren't ready to make.

2016
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 3: But buckle up, we're here. We've arrived at that train station.

2017
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 5: I've said this for years, and I still think it's true,

2018
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 5: but it's lesson to an extent. So I've been working

2019
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 5: in sports now for almost twenty years. You know, graduated

2020
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 5: college in two thousand and eight.

2021
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 1: So sixteen years. And in that time, I've become less

2022
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: of a sports fan.

2023
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 5: I've become more of a savant, right like doing nerdy

2024
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 5: spreadsheets and learning about the game.

2025
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 1: And I know more. I know it's it's the guys

2026
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: are gonna it's the theme of the show Man. It's

2027
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 1: all good.

2028
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 4: Leave it through at the end of the season.

2029
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 5: But I've I've gotten a lot more educated on sports.

2030
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 5: I know more about sports than I did when I

2031
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 5: graduated college. But I don't love sports. In fact, I

2032
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 5: love sports less. I love the Yankees a lot less.

2033
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 5: I remember covering the Yankees and they were telling me

2034
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 5: where I where I could and couldn't stand kicking me

2035
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 5: out of the clubhouse because I was doing this and

2036
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 5: you know, you see how the sausages made you.

2037
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 1: You know, don't meet your heroes.

2038
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 5: Same thing with the Jets, like run like a circus

2039
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 5: back there sometimes and like I just you know, that

2040
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 5: childhood love for the teams that I grew up watching

2041
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 5: faded over time.

2042
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: The one team that.

2043
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 5: Hasn't faded in that passion is my love for mi

2044
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 5: alma mater, Penn State football. But now it's changing, as

2045
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 5: you guys have mentioned, like that that childhood love of

2046
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 5: college football of Penn State, the team I grew up watching,

2047
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 5: the team I adored until I eventually went there. It

2048
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 5: doesn't feel the same way anymore because of all the

2049
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 5: things that you guys are mentioning. And I think a

2050
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 5: lot of college football fans, while the sport itself, especially

2051
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 5: in the Southeast, is still culture religion in a sense,

2052
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 5: I do think. I think the word I'm looking for

2053
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 5: is sterilization. Like it's just it's business now, and when

2054
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 5: things are run like a business, it's not as much passion,

2055
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 5: it's not as much love.

2056
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 1: It's more bottom line.

2057
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,759
Speaker 5: And I think that's just the reality of the world

2058
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 5: that we live in with college football, and unfortunately it's

2059
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 5: adapted like we have to get right to that method

2060
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 5: of thinking where these kids are now participating in this

2061
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 5: sport where it used to be for love of the game,

2062
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 5: now it's for love of the dollar.

2063
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: And is that okay? Man? That's where we are right now.

2064
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: I was a football college football culture in society.

2065
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 2: No interesting stuff, man, I got something to add to

2066
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 2: it right around the corner.

2067
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: First, though, we want.

2068
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 2: To add in the main ingredient, which would be not

2069
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 2: just the healthy dash of I Low We're talking about

2070
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,520
Speaker 2: if this is the gumbo, this is this is the sausage,

2071
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 2: these are the beans. This is the main ingredient of

2072
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 2: the gumbo. Isaac lowan crown with the latest year.

2073
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 8: Ah, you can't go wrong with gumbo. You have stirred

2074
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 8: my craving for that, even at this early hour on

2075
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 8: the West coast. You know what, Sacramento King's head coach,

2076
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 8: Mike Brown not going to be craving too much more

2077
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 8: money because he's got plenty. There's multiple alas reported overnight

2078
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 8: that the Sacramento head coach agree to a new contract

2079
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 8: extension through the twenty twenty six twenty seven campaign. It's

2080
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 8: worth eight point five million dollars a year. In game

2081
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 8: five of the NHL's Western Conference Finals on Friday Night,

2082
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 8: the Edmonton Oilers won a DALLA three to one for

2083
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 8: three games to two lead Baseball. Friday night, the New

2084
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 8: York Yankees one at San Francisco six to two, and

2085
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 8: the story was Aaron Judge, who had two home runs,

2086
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 8: becoming the first of the majors to twenty home runs

2087
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,799
Speaker 8: this season. For the month of May, Judge hit fourteen

2088
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,799
Speaker 8: home runs in the month alone with twenty seven RBI

2089
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 8: the Colorado Rockies if he did the Dodgers in LA

2090
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 8: four to one, Padre scored nine runs at the top

2091
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 8: of the eighth inning for an eleven to eight win

2092
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 8: at Kansas City. San Diego's Luis Arrives four for five

2093
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 8: is fourth four hit game in just twenty four games

2094
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 8: in a Padre uniform. Big W NBA game coming up

2095
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 8: at the top of the hour as the Chicago Sky

2096
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 8: takes on the Indiana Fever, which is just one and eight.

2097
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:45,839
Speaker 8: It will be the first meeting for fellow Star rookies

2098
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 8: Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark, and finally, Fellas. Congratulations are

2099
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 8: in order for former NBA player DeMarcus Cousins. Overnight, he

2100
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 8: had twenty four points and twenty four rebounds in the

2101
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 8: clinching game to win Taiwan t League Championship. He was

2102
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 8: named Finals MVP. But that's not the story. The story

2103
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 8: is the name of cousins team, the Taiwan beer Leopards,

2104
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 8: which instantly becomes one of the great nicknames in all

2105
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 8: the professional sports around the world. The Taiwan beer Leopards

2106
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 8: memo to teams in North America, get going with some

2107
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 8: good team names.

2108
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 1: Back to you.

2109
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Speaker 2: Very nicely done. That's ilo with the latest deer. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. This is Fox Sports Saturday. Hey, shortly after

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Speaker 2: the show, our podcast would be going up. If you

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Speaker 2: off the year. Make sure you follow, rate and review

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Speaker 2: it as well, but just search Fox Sports Radio you'll

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Speaker 2: see it. So I was thinking about this. You guys

2118
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 2: both made good points about where we're at with college football,

2119
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 2: and I believe this for the longest. I think the

2120
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: players should get it paid. They're the show, right, But

2121
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 2: I also think this what you guys were saying made

2122
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,839
Speaker 2: me realize something you might be in favor of something

2123
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 2: happening without being in favor of every layer associated with it.

2124
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 1: Perfect, you know.

2125
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 2: So for college football, I think all three of us

2126
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 2: are on board where man, these players generate billions of dollars.

2127
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 1: They deserve their slice of the pie.

2128
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 2: But with that, well you might get a home depot

2129
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:36,560
Speaker 2: logo at midfield of these college.

2130
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Stadium fields and you're like, that's right. Yeah.

2131
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 2: So that's the thing is we all believe the players

2132
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 2: should make a buck. They're generating the dollars. But along

2133
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 2: with that comes some layers that you might be like.

2134
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: Well that sucks. I don't I'm not in favor of that,

2135
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 1: you know.

2136
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 2: So I think that's where all three of us are

2137
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,799
Speaker 2: at with this day and age of college football.

2138
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 3: It's so per then, it's so true because all I

2139
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 3: am is wanting everybody to get their fair shake, but

2140
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 3: at the expense of my enjoyment. And I know, Okay,

2141
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 3: So I'm raising two kids. I have two boys, an

2142
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 3: eight year old and a five year old, and I

2143
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 3: know that one day here, pretty soon, I'm no longer

2144
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 3: going to be their superhero. Right now, they look at

2145
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 3: me like I'm a superhero. I can lift these kids

2146
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 3: in the air. I can throw them around. I'm the

2147
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 3: strongest person they know as far as they're concerned, I

2148
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 3: could move heaven and earth. And in their eyes, I

2149
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 3: mean in most young children's eyes, because you are both

2150
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 3: the creator and the commander of their world. You're almost

2151
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 3: godlike to children when you're their parents. But I know

2152
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 3: that that's not gonna last forever. And I don't have

2153
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 3: a god complex. I don't need to be in control

2154
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 3: with people.

2155
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: I don't.

2156
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 3: I don't need to. It's not a part of my personality.

2157
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 3: But I love these kids on conditionally. At some point

2158
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to let go of this control. At

2159
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 3: some point I'm gonna have to make them see what

2160
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 3: harshness the world has to offer for them. They're gonna

2161
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 3: have to go out there and make mistakes, and some

2162
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 3: of them are gonna be hard mistakes, and some of

2163
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 3: them are gonna break their hearts, and some of those

2164
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 3: mistakes are going to feel world ending because everything is relative,

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01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,919
Speaker 3: and at times, when you make a big enough mistake

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01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,600
Speaker 3: and you're young enough and you haven't had enough experience,

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01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 3: it's going to break you before you can build yourself

2168
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 3: back up. And that thought process torments me. I don't

2169
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 3: want to do it, but I know I have to.

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01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 3: It's a part of the process. Where we're at with

2171
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 3: college football is an unfortunate part of this process.

2172
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 4: It was coming. We all knew it was coming.

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01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 3: This sport has somehow lived in its infancy for a

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01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: long time, and it's growing up and sometimes growing up.

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01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 3: Whether you're a parent looking at your kid growing up

2176
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 3: or you're looking as a fan at college football growing up,

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01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 3: it's difficult, and it's stomach turning turning at times, and

2178
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:10,759
Speaker 3: you're gonna.

2179
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: See a lot of mistakes made.

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01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 3: But it's a part of the process, and we have

2181
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:19,520
Speaker 3: to do our job as fans to let that process

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01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 3: take place and to try to appreciate it in whatever

2183
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 3: form it takes and try and try to enjoy it

2184
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 3: as best we can as it evolves and matures and grows.

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01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 3: Because because this was this was the destiny from the jump.

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01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:40,839
Speaker 9: We weren't going to be able to see athletes operate

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01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 9: at this high of a level for the billions of

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01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 9: dollars that they're producing and never have a share in

2189
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 9: those profits.

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01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 3: The other shoe was going to drop eventually, and it has,

2191
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 3: and so now we have to adjust to the new normal,

2192
01:52:56,479 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 3: and the new normal is a maturity.

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01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: At I don't think we're all ready for it.

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01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 3: Kind of feels like we're in that adolescent stage where

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01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 3: college football probably still needs us to dote over it,

2196
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 3: like it's in its infancy still, and you know, it's

2197
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 3: still just as pure as it used to be. But

2198
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 3: then at times we need to back off and give

2199
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 3: it space to have these kids driving around in Bentley's

2200
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,799
Speaker 3: and Ferraris and Lamborghini's on their college campuses while playing

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01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 3: at Goodyear Field at LSU Stadium.

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Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be weird. It's gonna be weird,

2203
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 1: but we gotta kind of let it happen.

2204
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 5: That was so well said, because there's such a parental

2205
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 5: aspect to this where.

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01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: We don't want college football to grow up.

2207
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 5: No, but it is, and let's be honest it let's

2208
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 5: turn it back as First of all, that was really

2209
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 5: deep and heartfelt, and I appreciate you sharing that because

2210
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 5: I'm sure that's hard for any parent.

2211
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 1: I know my mom went through that too.

2212
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 5: But college football is going through puberty, and we need

2213
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 5: to sit down and have the talk with college right

2214
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 5: kind of where we're at right now, it's comfortable.

2215
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 1: It's very uncomfortable.

2216
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 5: We need to sit college football down and say, okay,

2217
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 5: college football, we're gonna slap a home depot logo right

2218
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 5: in the center, and there's gonna be things growing in

2219
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 5: weird places that you don't know. But this is for

2220
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,639
Speaker 5: the best, because this is what growing up is all about.

2221
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 5: It really was a very apropos metaphor, very well put.

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01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 5: I can't add much to it other than I just

2223
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 5: hope Penn State doesn't slap like a like a you know,

2224
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 5: some kind of weird, weird, you know, logo in the

2225
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 5: middle of their field because they're all about the tradition.

2226
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 5: But I think it's gonna happen, Like I think we're

2227
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 5: gonna have to get used to Penn State. You know,

2228
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 5: they're perfectly clean white helmets having an orange sticker of

2229
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 5: some kind on it, Like it might happen, and it's

2230
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 5: gonna be really weird for us to watch that. Remember

2231
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 5: when they put names on the back of the uniforms. Rich, Yeah,

2232
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 5: but they did it for a reason. It was a reason,

2233
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 5: and they did it because they wanted to. We're gonna

2234
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 5: have to be okay with change. It's gonna have to happen.

2235
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Right, and some of that change you don't want associated

2236
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 2: with it. It's so interesting to me because if you say,

2237
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: should the players make a buck? It's like, yeah, absolutely,

2238
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 2: they're bringing in all this money they should. Okay, well

2239
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 2: you want to home depot at midfield?

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01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: Yep?

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01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 2: Not really, Well it's gonna happen. Do you want walk

2242
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 2: ons to go away? Think about that. They're paying each

2243
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 2: of these players. They want the rosters to be capped,

2244
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 2: and you might not have as many walk ons or

2245
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 2: any walk ons going forward.

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01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 1: You want that? It's like, well, I didn't know that

2247
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 1: was part of.

2248
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 2: It, right, So those layers that you might not love

2249
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 2: or be in favor in, when they're tied to what

2250
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: overall you are in favor of, which is players making money.

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01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 2: It's crazy how it goes like that. But that's where

2252
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 2: we're at with college football.

2253
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 1: All right.

2254
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: We've got rich Oornberger Penn State All American. We've got

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01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst, Penn State grad as well.

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01:55:56,320 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm out numbered over here, right, No, I didn't go there, but.

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01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what what logo are the Irish gonna put

2258
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 5: on the middle of the jams logo?

2259
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 1: Right in the middle of Jersey, Jersey. Don't touch the helmets.

2260
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 1: That's with the helmets. Say it all right?

2261
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 2: Coming up next, rapid Fire. We each have three sterling

2262
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 2: picks for you. Wool unveil them.

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Speaker 1: Coming up.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 2: Props to the crew man, our trusted producer, Bo Benson,

2267
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 2: Chris Perfet technical producer. Also Isaac Lohencron crushing the updates

2268
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 2: and crushing life as he always does. Top of the

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01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 2: hour up on game. Keep it locked right here, t J. Hushman, Zada, Plexico, Burus.

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Speaker 2: They have got you absolutely covered. They begin in just

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes. All right, we got some picks to make.

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01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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01:56:58,960 --> 01:56:59,839
Speaker 6: Rapid Fire.

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01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: All right, Jared, We'll start with you. What are you

2275
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 1: thinking today? So we're going Nerfy's guys, The Nerfey is

2276
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: on fire. How about this?

2277
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 5: Sixty one percent in the month of May. That's the

2278
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 5: most I've ever seen in a month. And I've been

2279
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 5: doing this neurfy thing for like three years. So run

2280
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 5: scorings down across baseball. Let's try to take advantage. Let's

2281
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 5: start with the White Sox and the Brewers.

2282
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet has been great.

2283
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 5: I know the White Sox think Garrett Crochet is an

2284
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 5: absolute rock star.

2285
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 1: Eleven and one to the Nerfey Robert.

2286
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 5: Gasser on the other side, hopefully he's got that gassing

2287
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 5: fastball early. Don't love this Brewers lineup, especially against lefties,

2288
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 5: and of course the White Socks are terrible, so White

2289
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 5: Sox Brewers Neurfy also win blowing in at Wrigley Field today,

2290
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 5: So let's go Nurfy. Red's Cubs love this pitching matchup.

2291
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 5: Hunter Green nine and two to the Nerfy fireballer. I'll

2292
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 5: throw at ninety eight miles an hour, maybe even touch

2293
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 5: one hundred in the first inning against Justin Steele, who's

2294
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 5: had a couple early hiccups in his return from injury,

2295
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 5: but still one of the best pitchers on this Cub staff.

2296
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 5: We will go Cubs and Red's Neurfy. And finally, how

2297
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 5: about the Angels and the Mariners. I lost on this

2298
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 5: Nerfy last night. Je Crawford touched up Soriano early on

2299
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,919
Speaker 5: in that game, but I like the lefty tonight Reed Detmers.

2300
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 5: I think he'll get Jp Crawford at the top and

2301
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 5: on the other side, Bryce Miller again, fireball pitcher for Seattle.

2302
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 5: So we'll go Angels, Mariners, nerfee White Sox, Brewers, ner

2303
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 5: fee Red's Cubs.

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01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:20,839
Speaker 1: A Nerfy parade here on Saturday.

2305
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I'm gonna stay in baseball all

2306
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 3: baseball today as well. Got the Saint Louis Cardinals starting

2307
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 3: Sonny Gray. He has had a pretty tremendous season so far.

2308
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 3: Nine starts, seven and two win loss two six era

2309
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 3: won a whip.

2310
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him over six and.

2311
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 3: A half k's today in his game against the Phillies.

2312
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 3: That's a good lineup, but he has serious swing and

2313
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 3: miss stuff and he's on a great, great start to

2314
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 3: the season. Moving on to Padres Royals this afternoon on

2315
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 3: the West Coast. We got the Padres, who if you've

2316
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 3: been paying close attention to their season, it's been a rollercoaster.

2317
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 3: Any success is followed by disaster. They just won a

2318
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 3: game last night, late innings, a lot of runners on base,

2319
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 3: getting them home in the eighth. I say they run

2320
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 3: out of gas today. It's gonna be a low offense

2321
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 3: day for the Padres. I'm taking the under eight and

2322
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 3: a half runs and sort of kind of insynchronicity with

2323
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 3: that Muskrove on the mount for the pods.

2324
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't have great swinging to miss stuff.

2325
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 3: But the Royals are the hot, the second highest strikeouts

2326
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 3: per game team in Major League Baseball. Some taking Muscrove

2327
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 3: over four k's today over four strikeouts.

2328
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I got some baseball on the menu

2329
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 2: as well.

2330
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: You know we're going heavy baseball here. Give me the Mats.

2331
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 2: Give me on the muddy line minus one thirty five

2332
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 2: against the d Backs today.

2333
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 1: You know they they turned the corner ever since.

2334
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 2: You know their pitcher threw his glove into the into

2335
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 2: the stands hot like one in a row. Right, I'm

2336
01:59:57,400 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna take the Twins. Twins have looked. They're eight and

2337
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 2: two in their last ten games. Houston not so great.

2338
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 2: So give me the plus money Minnesota Twins plus one

2339
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 2: ten at Houston and man, I I'd love to keep

2340
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 2: going baseball over here, but I'm gonna look to the association.

2341
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to wait a few nights until Thursday

2342
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 2: rolls around. I'm gonna double down Luka Doncic under thirty

2343
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 2: and a half points in Game one, contrarian, No, We'll

2344
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 2: see if it hits.

2345
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 1: Everybody, have a great day.