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Speaker 1: These these one Bills Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: And Good Evening. Welcome to Thursday Night Football where the

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Speaker 2: three and three Buccaneers are here to the host Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills being back to pass and he's gonna tuck it

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Speaker 2: and run right up the gun down to the five

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Speaker 2: looking for the end zone. Touchdown Buffalo Roly, He's the beast.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen with a thirteen yard touchdown run.

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Speaker 1: There got works Alan.

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Speaker 2: In the shotgun. I'm gonna roll out to his right

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Speaker 2: looking for somebody. Throws it back across the middle of

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Speaker 2: a Caine waltzes into the end zone for his first

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Speaker 2: touchdown as a Buffalo Bill, twenty two yards.

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Speaker 1: Alan to King Kays, he here we.

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Speaker 3: Go, y'all.

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Speaker 4: R between the last go caps.

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Speaker 2: You can tell you about a middle back to pass

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Speaker 2: pocket collapsing and Ed Oliver has got him for the sap, got.

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Speaker 1: Him around the ankle.

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Speaker 2: Right in cowboy, want to kill Alan back to pass

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Speaker 2: lits coming fires to the end zone, wide open tick

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Speaker 2: Gabe Davis let touchdown maker, fifth touchdown of the season

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Speaker 2: for Cave Davis four seconds left at the forty yard line.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna have to.

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Speaker 1: Be a sixty yard chuck to the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Mayfield back to pass pocket, collapsing, steps up, heaves it

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Speaker 2: down the field. This is gonna reach the end zone

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Speaker 2: and it's incomplete. God went turned around a little too late,

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Speaker 2: but he was in the vicinity to make the catch.

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Speaker 2: He did not, and the game is over. Twenty four

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Speaker 2: to eighteen is your final. So the Bills improved to

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Speaker 2: five and three on the season and they are still

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Speaker 2: unbeaten at home. All right, that is your Toshiba game.

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Speaker 2: Rewind Toshiba, the official copier company of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, for the third straight week, the game ends

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Speaker 2: with the ball in the end zone. Not the way

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Speaker 2: you want to finish, as people still had to bite

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Speaker 2: their fingernails despite a much improved performance on the offensive

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Speaker 2: side of the ball that was more reminiscent of Buffalo

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Speaker 2: offensive football that we have come to know for the

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Speaker 2: better part of the last three years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, defense kind of did it to themselves throughout the night.

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Speaker 1: You had to remember, I was watching the replay of

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Speaker 1: the game. Leonard Floyd completely whiffing on Mayfield given them first,

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Speaker 1: it would have been a sack, yeh uh, And it

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Speaker 1: would have been kind of off to the races, Mayfield

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Speaker 1: spins out of it and to delifferent and then gets

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Speaker 1: the first down. And then later on, of course, the

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips face mask on a sack play that extends

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Speaker 1: the drive. In the first drive of the game, Taylor

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Speaker 1: rap getting called for pass interference when he goes up

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Speaker 1: with his off arm over the top and knocks the

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Speaker 1: pass away. I thought you couldn't play it better. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a textbook spot foul, like a thirty

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Speaker 1: yard game. So the Bill's defense kind of did it

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Speaker 1: to themselves so that I don't think they're they need

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Speaker 1: to hang their heads at all. They had plenty to

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Speaker 1: be happy about when with their game last night. Certainly

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Speaker 1: they were ups and downs, but the stuff that really

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Speaker 1: went wrong with Jordan Poyer should have had three interceptions

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Speaker 1: three not not like one, almost like three, and he

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Speaker 1: got zero.

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Speaker 2: So had his hands in the passing lanes.

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Speaker 1: That's where we've seen this, we've seen this movie before.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of game the Bills lose that where

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Speaker 1: they there's like five game stop like the Minnesota game.

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Speaker 1: The five game stoppers, they can't get off the field.

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Speaker 1: They you know, the cam Lewis actually helps justin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: catch a pass on fourth and eighteen. You know, they

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Speaker 1: they can't execute a quarterback sneak and it turns not

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Speaker 1: only they fumble it, it turns into a touchdown the

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Speaker 1: other way. That's the kind of thing we're seeing last night.

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Speaker 1: And man, oh man, does it make you want to

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Speaker 1: jump off a bridge?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I love this team.

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Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, they're gonna love me back, you know,

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Speaker 2: just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Give me, give me a little something something.

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Speaker 2: Make me think that you're here pretended.

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Speaker 1: Give me like, bring me some flowers here, right, Come on,

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Speaker 1: it's this anniversary. Come on, you can do something for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, putting on you know, do some dishes. That's

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Speaker 1: where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Bro, you're killing me. Show you got me on that.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all have it. We're all in this

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Speaker 1: world together, right, So we all got our text loops

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Speaker 1: with all our friends. Are you know, the the my golf,

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Speaker 1: my golfing buddies, you know, my family, my four sons,

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Speaker 1: the five presidents that i'm you know the guys are

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Speaker 1: three brothers three right, So I got all these groups,

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Speaker 1: man oh man, I just got to put the phone down, man,

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Speaker 1: because they are all absolutely off their rocker.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you right now, the best thing

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Speaker 2: that happened to me is calling these games because I

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Speaker 2: don't have time to look at my phone.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you know when I'm covering games, you get

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Speaker 1: up and you've got triple digit texts.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it's the best thing. I don't look

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Speaker 2: at it during the game.

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Speaker 1: It's great. I always my text. I'm always at zero

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Speaker 1: in text. If I have a new text, I look

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Speaker 1: at read it and address it. It's a thing you

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Speaker 1: come after one of these games and it's like seventy

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Speaker 1: three texts. H you've missed. I'm like, it's unbelievable. And

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Speaker 1: they're they're all They're all just like the rest of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're all the same.

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Speaker 2: There are. There are plenty of positives and some concerns

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Speaker 2: that come out of this game. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: any debate about that. The most important thing is they

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Speaker 2: won the game. It wasn't in convincing fashion like weeks

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Speaker 2: two through four. The hope is that maybe somehow, some

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Speaker 2: way they get back to that. But I think what

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Speaker 2: we learned yesterday and it's convincing evidence to this point.

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Speaker 2: I think the off is going to have to carry

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Speaker 2: most of the burden here going forward, because if they

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Speaker 2: do not provide Buffalo's defense with a greater margin for

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Speaker 2: error in these games, especially with the lineup of opponents

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Speaker 2: coming up, it is going to be nail biting time

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Speaker 2: every single week. And that is what prompted a discussion

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Speaker 2: on social media last night that I saw a flying

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Speaker 2: around from Bill's fans that you're in those fourth down

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Speaker 2: situations and you're up fourteen, it's step on their throat

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Speaker 2: time and go for it now. I'm gonna give coach

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Speaker 2: McDermott the benefit of the doubt here with the way

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Speaker 2: Tampa was playing offense and the defense's ability to handle them,

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Speaker 2: I think he felt they are incapable of driving the

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Speaker 2: field position and take another crack at it. The problem

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Speaker 2: is that happened three times in a row and they

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Speaker 2: didn't get it the fourth down and no man's right.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things too about that is the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, it's perfect, perfectly sound. The problem is when

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Speaker 1: you get into the fourth they start having four downs

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Speaker 2: You know they're going for it fourth down.

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Speaker 1: They start having four downs to get the first down

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Speaker 1: rather than just the three, and that changes the equations

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Speaker 1: just to hair And certainly they needed help on a

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Speaker 1: couple of fourth downs to get it, but they got it.

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Speaker 1: They got help and they got it, and that now

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Speaker 1: you're stuck. You're given points.

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Speaker 2: I guess the point I'm trying to make is I

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Speaker 2: want to believe that coach McDermott when he's playing a

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Speaker 2: higher caliber opponent like Cincinnati in the next game, or

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Speaker 2: like the Chargers, and he's in that situation again, that

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Speaker 2: he is going for it on fourth down in that

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Speaker 2: to know they do one the losses they have incurred

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Speaker 2: what we see at the end of the last three

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Speaker 2: the end zone can't win the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've had two end zone chucks. One of them

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Speaker 1: Taron Johnson defended one of them, he got beat. And

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Speaker 1: then this last one dropped, dropped in the middle of everybody.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. Nobody, no defensive backfield that

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Speaker 1: is as it's currently constituted, has more, has more experience

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Speaker 1: with Hail Mary's and the Bills do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the way back to the Hale Murray which

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Speaker 2: is twenty twenty, right.

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Speaker 1: And then then the playoff game against Indianapolis with Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers and Michael michah Hyde knocked it down, and then

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Speaker 1: another one last night. They've these are the two sators.

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Speaker 1: Tied and Boyer have been there, done that. So is

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Speaker 1: Taron Johnson. They've all been there.

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Speaker 2: You want to know what. So we watched the play

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Speaker 2: and Chris go Oddwin doesn't get his head around fast

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Speaker 2: because they pressed me at the line of scrimmage. I

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Speaker 2: actually like that. That's very nice to hear, play, very

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Speaker 2: nice to you pick your spots. But because well no,

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Speaker 2: but Steeve, we hear all the time. Ah, the defense

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Speaker 2: plays too soft at the end of the game. Blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. Press coverage is the reason why

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Speaker 2: God Godwin can't get his head around in time. He's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, press coverage on a hail mary is different than

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Speaker 1: on a when they're trying to just move the ball

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Speaker 1: where they got time and time outs left. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm for it there too. Yes, you got to

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Speaker 1: play your defense the way it's built to be played.

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Speaker 1: When you start tinkering around with well, they've got too

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Speaker 1: that's when you get into real trouble. In today's NFL,

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Speaker 1: A team like they're three and three, they're a five

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Speaker 1: hundred club. They were good enough against the Bills defense,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty darn good in a game where they were

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Speaker 1: getting pushed around and they couldn't do anything. As soon

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Speaker 1: started saying, Okay, we're just gonna let them use clock

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Speaker 1: and strangle this game. That just that let up was

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Speaker 1: enough for a five hundred ball club in a bad

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Speaker 1: division to go.

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Speaker 2: Bang, yeah, sixteen.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't get them off the field sixteen plays, touchdown,

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Speaker 1: two point and then come back and have another shot

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Speaker 1: at it because you're doing the same thing on offense.

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Speaker 1: You can't get a first down.

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Speaker 2: You're not. This team is no longer in a position

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Speaker 2: to go stranglehold on a football game because their defense

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Speaker 2: is not good enough anymore to finish games that wealthy enough, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not that's a better way to describe. Its not

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Speaker 2: healthy enough to strangle games out anymore. You have to

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Speaker 2: take the step on your throat mode with your offense

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Speaker 2: and keep scoring points, especially with the lineup of characters

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Speaker 6: Guys almost calls it after the Giants game, third quarter,

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Speaker 1: At that way. Yeah, that was well, if it happens

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Speaker 2: But I don't want The Titans used to do that.

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Speaker 1: At fourth down, miss he was trying to get Kinkaid

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Speaker 1: What do you got Butch?

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Speaker 7: My guys, my guys, is a pleasant talker to you.

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Speaker 7: I need some respect for a second. I got something

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Speaker 7: I haven't seen Andre in so long. I see Andre sometime,

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Speaker 7: He was some fans taking photos when we was OK

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Speaker 7: here and I'm walking away fro him and finished taking

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Speaker 7: Toltally wouldn't wasn't It wasn't for Jim Kelly. And would

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Speaker 7: It was with Jim Kelly ye versa. He said, that's

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Speaker 7: I see that's not fair. The first time at fifty

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Speaker 7: Y'all had the K gun. And when you guys had

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Speaker 7: Anytime you get a red zone Marvel League. To take

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Speaker 7: This is the same thing that kid Dorsey did. He

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Speaker 9: Leave this guy alone.

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Speaker 7: He's mature now, he's been in this he's been in

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Speaker 7: red zone. Let Josh run offense.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, I got you. But here, let me address some

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Speaker 1: of that what you're saying. You're saying that you know

438
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Speaker 1: Josh is calling out in the field. Josh is making

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Speaker 1: the plays and they're going this no huddle, and like

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Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, Josh is calling the plays and they'll have

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Speaker 1: a menu. And certainly Ken Dorsey is talking to him

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Speaker 1: out in the field as well. So they it's kind

443
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Speaker 1: of a collaboration, and you can have and you can

444
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Speaker 1: have a guy like Digs or somebody say hey and

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Speaker 1: remind Josh of a play that they think will work,

446
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Speaker 1: and Josh say, yeah, you know what, you're right and

447
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Speaker 1: call it. Yeah, all that stuff goes on. The difference

448
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Speaker 1: is this when you get it down into goal line

449
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Speaker 1: and short yardage and in the red zone as well.

450
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Speaker 1: Although the closer you get the more it changes. It's

451
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Speaker 1: a different game plan than out in the field, and

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Speaker 1: as a whole new menu of plays. And it's from

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Speaker 1: most guys. It's hard to make that transition of knowing

454
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Speaker 1: that the field is small now instead of big. Most

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Speaker 1: coaching staffs that I've talked to or been around in

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Speaker 1: my experience treated as a completely separate offense. So while yeah,

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Speaker 1: Josh may have an idea in the red zone or whatever,

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Speaker 1: usually it's only like in the second half, after they've

459
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Speaker 1: been down there like two or three times, he'll get

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Speaker 1: an idea of what they're doing, and then he'll suggest

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Speaker 1: something to Dorsey and they'll say, Okay, let's try that.

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Speaker 1: Next time we get down close. We're gonna try that play.

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Speaker 1: But it takes a minute to get it because the defense,

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Speaker 1: even the defense, even the Bills defense and last night

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay defense, it changes vastly when you get

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Speaker 1: down to goal line situations. Yeah, go line. We used

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Speaker 1: to call it goal line and short yardage. It's the

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Speaker 1: same kind of idea, going to run down and he's

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Speaker 1: and Butcher's right. It wasn't just Ted Marchibroda or Tom

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Speaker 1: Bresnahan calling those plays. Marv Levy called the goal line

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Speaker 1: short yardage play.

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Speaker 2: He handled fourth down too, and fourth.

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Speaker 1: Down yeate and play because we treated him the same way.

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Speaker 1: We're not going forward on fourth and fifteen, right.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 1: That's it's very different. So to put that on. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Josh could handle it. Maybe he does, and maybe he

478
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Speaker 1: has a bigger saying it than what I'm giving him

479
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Speaker 1: credit for. I don't really know, but it's something that's

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Speaker 1: hard to do when you get down there because you've

481
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Speaker 1: got different personnel you use, you've got different play selections,

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Speaker 1: you've got different rules as well.

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Speaker 5: So I get it.

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Speaker 1: Let Josh cook. He cooked all the way down the

485
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Speaker 1: field and got you to four goal first and goal

486
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Speaker 1: on the four keep it going. Well, it's different. That's

487
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Speaker 1: why it's no coincidence. At last night, three of the

488
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Speaker 1: last four drives of the Bills had stalled between the

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Speaker 1: forty and fifty yard line of Tampa Bay. Something changed

490
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Speaker 1: they they change the bills change, something changes. It's installed

491
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Speaker 1: installed in the exact same spot on the field consistently.

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Speaker 1: There's something in that their defense starts to change what

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Speaker 1: they're doing and you haven't picked up on it yet

494
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Speaker 1: or you can't get it, and they're doing something to

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Speaker 1: you that's that you can't get past. That's when you

496
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Speaker 1: start seeing that that should be you know, that'll carm

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Speaker 1: bellert alarm bells for It's like, what are they doing?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 1: It's like the third in a row. We punted from

501
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Speaker 1: their forty seven, We punted there from their forty eight,

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Speaker 1: and we punted from our forty eight, and then we

503
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Speaker 1: didn't go for it on fourth and two from their

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Speaker 1: forty two. What's going on in that ten yard section

505
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Speaker 1: of the field. What's going on? But that think about it.

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Speaker 1: Sections of the field mean things to these coaches and

507
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Speaker 1: how they call it, and it manifests itself in the

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Speaker 1: ways we're looking at.

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Speaker 2: Right back to the phones into Jack and Ken Moore.

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Speaker 9: What do you got Jack Well, good morning, gentlemen. I

511
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Speaker 9: hope you're pretty happy today. I just got a couple

512
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Speaker 9: of things I want to say. You know, they ran

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Speaker 9: that play against the Giants when they swung up which

514
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Speaker 9: car the backfield and he took for the touchdown. Okay,

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Speaker 9: And I think they could have called that play because

516
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Speaker 9: it's been two weeks or whatever since we played the

517
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Speaker 9: Giants and it worked for the touchdown. Sometimes he over coaches,

518
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Speaker 9: mister Garrison, and I can't understand why our head man

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Speaker 9: can take the game over Sean McDermott and say I

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Speaker 9: want you to do this at the one yard line

521
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Speaker 9: or this at the two other line. But he is

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Speaker 9: still the head coach. I know he runs the defense.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 9: And here's the other thing I gotta say. You gotta

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Speaker 9: have the kid go ear him the cornerback he shot here,

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Speaker 9: it's too bad. I think he's a good kid and

527
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Speaker 9: he's a good football player. It's just that I think

528
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Speaker 9: his mind is gone here now and you have to

529
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Speaker 9: let the kid go or trade him because I know

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Speaker 9: he's still think you keep playing this NFL. Okay, And

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Speaker 9: that's just my opinion. And the other thing I want

532
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Speaker 9: to say I told you the other day, if you remember,

533
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Speaker 9: I told you put him on the line of scrimmans,

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Speaker 9: let him call his play, and what happened yesterday and

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Speaker 9: it worked. Okay, That's all I got to say. Have

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Speaker 9: a great day and gold Biddles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're Jack, you, and I'm I'm perfectly ready to

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Speaker 1: give you one hundred percent credit for it. If for

539
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Speaker 1: coming up with the strategy of going no huddle and

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Speaker 1: tempo for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I'm nobody else.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else said that at all. Nobody, I'm nobody in

543
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Speaker 1: the entire Bill's kingdom was calling for them to go

544
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: no huddling up tempo. Jack, you are alone responsible.

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Speaker 2: I will agree with you, Jack. I feel bad for

546
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Speaker 2: Kyrie Elim too, because I do think he is a

547
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Speaker 2: physically gifted player and can have a very long and

548
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: successful career in this league. For whatever reason, he is

549
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: not even up on game day now in favor of

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00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: with all due respect to Josh Norman, a thirty five

551
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 2: year old corner who was sitting on his couch two

552
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: weeks ago, I can't explain it. Coach McDermott was asked

553
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: about it last night. He said, we're just trying to

554
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: get our best eleven out there every week. From our observations,

555
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: the kid does everything right. He puts in extra work

556
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: on his own and when you see somebody working that

557
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: hard to get back on the field and taking the

558
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: approach that he has, it's really hard to not feel

559
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: bad for the kid because the tools are there, and

560
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Speaker 2: we talk about it all the time. I'm on this soapbox,

561
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: maybe more than anybody else in my twenty five years

562
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: of covering this team. This is the best coaching staff

563
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: in terms of player development that I've seen in Buffalo,

564
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: and I would like to think with a player that gifted,

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Speaker 2: this coaching staff is capable of making him a player

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Speaker 2: worthy of being on the field every single Sunday. For

567
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Speaker 2: whatever reason, that has not happened, and we can only

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00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: judge it by all that we are exposed to, which

569
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Speaker 2: probably isn't nearly enough to tell us the whole story.

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Speaker 2: But I do feel bad for him because I do

571
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: think he's good enough to help this football team. I

572
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: feel bad for the kid, I really do. So maybe

573
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: a change of scenery is what's necessary here, and maybe

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00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: before the trade deadline we'll find out what comes to

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00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: what comes of it. But it's not like the Bills

576
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 2: are extraordinarily deep at corner now that they've lost your

577
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Davius White for the season. So I'd like to see

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00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: him get back on the field at some point in

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Speaker 2: time and make the kind of contributions he was making

580
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Speaker 2: at the end of his rookie seasons. As our MSG

581
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Speaker 2: viewers are seeing right now interception in the playoff game

582
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Speaker 2: against Miami that turned the tide of that football game.

583
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Speaker 2: Turn the tide of the game. He's capable of that.

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Speaker 2: So I feel bad for him, I really do.

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00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. And when I think the frustrating

586
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: thing for you know, fans, guys like and guys like me,

587
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: met seem that much. And when he did it wasn't

588
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: like I didn't think he fell all over himself. I

589
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: didn't think he embarrassed himself. Certainly. I mean he you know,

590
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: gave up.

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Speaker 2: Some plays in coverage in the one game that he

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Speaker 2: did play and against Jacksonville in London, going. I mean,

593
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: but the kid hadn't played for six weeks. And then

594
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, here go cover one of the five

595
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: best route runners in the league. Have fun with Calvin

596
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: Ridley this week, Like that's a tough ask after not

597
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: playing regular season speed football for six weeks. His last

598
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Speaker 2: time on the field was in a preseason game in

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Speaker 2: Chicago in August. Like to me, I just feel bad

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Speaker 2: for the kid.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are circumstances we're unaware of, sure, you know,

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Speaker 2: but still I don't feel bad for him because he

604
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: works his tail off.

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Speaker 1: He really does. It seems like it to me too.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll wait and see the acid test. And

607
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, if he if he were to get traded,

608
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: was you know, everybody speculating because he got he didn't

609
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Speaker 1: play last night. You think they're trying to keep him

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Speaker 1: healthy so that another team who gets him will have

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Speaker 1: a player when they get him. And they activated Josh

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Speaker 1: Norman off the couch from the practice from the practice squad,

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Speaker 1: so that says maybe something's afoot. I don't know, And

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Speaker 1: the acid test is gonna be What if he goes

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Speaker 1: someplace and plays lights out? I mean, that's what he hate,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's possible. I think the kid could have

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Speaker 2: a very long and successful career in the league. It's

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Speaker 2: a shame break time for us here when we come back.

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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls on a Buffalo victory Friday

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live here in

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Speaker 2: a Buffalo victory Friday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 2: and player of the game. There were some candidates that

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Speaker 2: you could choose from, but Dalton Kincaid is our player

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Speaker 2: of the game. Five receptions on five targets for sixty

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Speaker 2: five yards and his first touchdown as a professional with

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. And I'm just gonna say this, Steve

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Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid came into the game with the highest catch

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Speaker 2: rate in the entire league ninety two point six percent,

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Speaker 2: and then went and caught all four targets that he

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Speaker 2: got thrown and the catch that our MSG viewers just

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Speaker 2: watched that went for a first down and his touchdown

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Speaker 2: catch were thrown behind him while he's running. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: just just made it look effortless, just reach behind him

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Speaker 2: while running in the other direction, caught the ball, just

637
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Speaker 2: kept on trucking. Made the nice catch along the sideline

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Speaker 2: as well. I called him a vacuum cleaner on the

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Speaker 2: area yesterday. He catches everything.

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Speaker 1: They got him listed for seven targets with five catches.

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Speaker 2: Oh seven targets, okay, but he doesn't have a single

642
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: drop this season, not one. Thirty four targets on the season,

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Speaker 2: thirty receptions, no drops.

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Speaker 1: The little out and up route on the sidelines where

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Speaker 1: he caught it spinning backwards was elite.

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Speaker 1: I think, and I don't know, we'll see, cause they

650
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Speaker 1: got a long way to go, and things are gonna

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go up and down. You know, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: fluctuate and evolve from this point. But right now, at

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Speaker 1: the current point in this season, I think that's the

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Speaker 1: Bills offense. Spread them out, go fast, and I think

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Speaker 1: it plays to Josh's strength.

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Speaker 2: Easy answers, early, easy answers.

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Speaker 1: Put the ball on a guy that curls up behind

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Speaker 1: a blitzer, and if pressure comes, roll out and make

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Speaker 1: something happen. Get out of that shotgun, get into the shotgun.

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Speaker 1: Put Kinkaid on the field with the three guys Digs, Davis,

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Speaker 1: and Shakir. I guess now and roll yeah, and then

662
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Speaker 1: just have one or maybe two tight ends active.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I posted it on social media last night,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the Dorsey haters came out to get

665
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Speaker 2: me like I was the headless Horseman or somebody here

666
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Speaker 2: in this Halloween season. But all the only point I

667
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: was trying to make was Dorsey should get a little

668
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Speaker 2: bit of credit for the way that plan was designed

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Speaker 2: and not just the hurry up. This is the first

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Speaker 2: time that I can remember that Gabe Davis was lined

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Speaker 2: up in the slot and ran a quick slant. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I've ever seen him run that in a

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Speaker 2: game ever. And if you think about it, people say, ah,

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Speaker 2: Gabe Davis is too hot and cold. He shows up

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Speaker 2: here and then he disappears. And look, the statistics are

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Speaker 2: accurate if you want to describe him that way, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's any fault of his own.

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Speaker 2: The guy is always running deep routes, which are lower

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Speaker 2: percentage throws and completions. The numbers bear that out. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: he's running underneath routes for the first time that I

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Speaker 2: can remember, and he's productive. What's the result a single

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00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: game career high nine receptions. Nine Yeah, and then Khalil

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Speaker 2: Shakir who finally gets some targets, has a single game

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Speaker 2: career high for ninety two. Yeah, for a single game

685
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Speaker 2: career high ninety two yards. They didn't even explore Trent

686
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: sherfield yet, you know what I mean. Like, I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying he should have and Khalil or Gabe shouldn't has.

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Speaker 1: At one point where Josh was completing eighty ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of his pay, he's like twenty one to twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Or twenty one or twenty he still finishes thirty one

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Speaker 2: or forty.

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Speaker 1: He had nine incompletions on the night, with thirty one completions.

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Speaker 1: And there's a couple of weeks ago when I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it Josh gonna have like thirty completions. Again,

695
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Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. He was just money last night.

696
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Speaker 1: He ran the ball better and more willingly than he

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Speaker 1: has in the past weeks, and he didn't do it

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00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: a ton and I don't think he got hit hard. Yeah,

699
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Speaker 1: that's exactly the way this offense should look. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I think he got to spread it out. Let Josh

701
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Speaker 1: use his arm, put that to spread the defense thin

702
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: up front with their linebackers looking to cover guys instead

703
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: of watch Josh and if they make a false move,

704
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Josh runs up their back for first down slides. Let's

705
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Speaker 1: get up in first and ten. Let's go. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the way their offense needs to look.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, by the way, is the first player in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl era to have seventeen or more passing

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Speaker 2: touchdowns and five or more rushing touchdowns in the first

710
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Speaker 2: eight games of a season. Nobody's ever done that. So

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00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 1: He's done a lot of stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's firmly in the MVP conversation right now.

714
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Speaker 2: I know the teams is only five and three, but

715
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: he's in that conversation, make no mistake about it. Let's

716
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: go back to the phones, though, and to Gene and

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Speaker 2: Ken Moore.

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Speaker 11: What do you got for his Gene, Hey, Chris and

719
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Speaker 11: Steve glad to talk to you. I've been trying for

720
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Speaker 11: years to get hold of you. I just have a

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Speaker 11: question about last night's game. The last three plays, sure,

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Speaker 11: when we couldn't convert, do you think it's because Josh

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Speaker 11: couldn't move the.

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Speaker 9: Arm or what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a valid question, Gene, right, because

726
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: we saw him go in the medical tent and he

727
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: came out and played the rest of the game. Didn't

728
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Speaker 2: seem to show any ill effects in terms of throwing

729
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: the ball. But yeah, the last four drives end in punts.

730
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Speaker 2: You can argue going forward. And you know, as we

731
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Speaker 2: said in the first segment of the show, stepping on

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Speaker 2: their throat, I was wondering if a play like the sneak,

733
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Speaker 2: for example, was off the board based on him dinging

734
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Speaker 2: that shoulder, I would tend to think that would be

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Speaker 2: enough to convince them to pull that play out of

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Speaker 2: the playbook for the or the game of the game.

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Speaker 1: They did run one in the field.

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Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, they did do that, but a

739
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Speaker 2: lot of the fourth down situations that came up fourth

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00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: and three probably not running that play there.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The other one was, let me look at it really quick,

743
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: where are we here? Second half? We had a fourth

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Speaker 2: and let me see, there's a fourth and four. Then

745
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: there was they got the delay of game penalty to

746
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: make him fourth and nine because they couldn't pull him

747
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Speaker 2: off sides. And then they had a fourth and two.

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Speaker 2: You want to argue the fourth and two, I'm with you,

749
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Speaker 2: fourth and fourth and three, fourth and four.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's probably fair too and

751
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Speaker 1: logical to assume that the coaches who have been and

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott went on about this just yesterday or two

753
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: days ago about listen, we've had those conversations with Josh.

754
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Speaker 1: We don't care if he runs. He can't take hit.

755
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: You gotta slide, and you got to get out of bounds,

756
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: get the yardage, go down, tuck and cover, go down,

757
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: don't take a hit. You can run as much as

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Speaker 1: you want as long as we're getting first downs, just

759
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: don't take a hit, get out of bounds or slide.

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00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: It's logical to assume having coached him like that and

761
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Speaker 1: having all those conversations that mcdermot's getting tired of having,

762
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Speaker 1: that they wouldn't do it on their end as well, say, listen,

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Speaker 1: we are not letting him run the student body rights

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Speaker 1: sweep into the end zone. We're not doing that play.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna run a quarterback sneak or a push

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Speaker 1: push when they know it's coming. We'll do it in

767
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Speaker 1: the field where the safeties and the corners are way

768
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Speaker 1: out and spread out, and then they'll step up and

769
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: run it out of a normal formation. But we're not

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Speaker 1: doing it where everybody's packed around the line of scrimage,

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Speaker 1: they can dive in on him. It's logical to assume

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Speaker 1: that since they've had all those conversations with Josh about

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Speaker 1: what he's doing, the John mcdermot's looking at Ken Dorsey

774
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Speaker 1: and saying, listen, don't you do it? So to some

775
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Speaker 1: extent you know that that's in the play selection somewhere.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break here because head coach Sean

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Speaker 2: mcdermotty is scheduled to address the media here in just

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Speaker 2: a few minutes, so when he does, we will bring

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Speaker 2: his comments to you live here on the show. So

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Speaker 2: we take a break so we're in time for that

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Speaker 2: When that does, we will bring him and his comments

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Speaker 2: to you. In the meantime, we get back to the

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Speaker 2: phones at eight oh three, five point fifty and we

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Speaker 2: go to Mark in Jersey City. Let me pull him

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Speaker 2: up here. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Mark?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 12: The running finally paid off, gentlemen, Nothing but positivity for me,

810
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 12: You guys get enough negative, enough negative calls outside of

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00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 12: exchanging yards for time at the end of the game

812
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 12: and a ball bouncing off his helmet right into Mike

813
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Speaker 12: Evans hands. Dan Jackson and Benford were sensational last night. Yeah,

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00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 12: they go ahead, were sensational. Sorry sorry, CV and Dalton

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Speaker 12: Dalton Kincaid is the next he's an officially, he's officially

816
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Speaker 12: an etceteran player for opposing defensive coordinators. They're gonna have

817
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 12: to work on him now. I mean that I've never

818
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 12: seen a Bill Titan, and I've seen all the athlete

819
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 12: Bills tight ends pretty much. Mckeller was more of a

820
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 12: long strider, not as fluid. Bobby Collins was pretty athletic.

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Speaker 12: Sean Nelson could never, you know, never stay healthy with

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Speaker 12: his concussions and stuff.

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Speaker 13: But he was a good athlete.

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Speaker 12: This kid is This kid is an athlete and he's

825
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 12: a wide You saw Kelsey like things from him last night.

826
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Speaker 12: I'm not even going to say he's in that category,

827
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 12: but you saw it. It was like, uh oh, And

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Speaker 12: if that kid gets unlocked and Shakir kind of settles

829
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Speaker 12: into that third party role, they looked so much more

830
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 12: alacrity on offense last night, just being in that sugar

831
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 12: huddle and just going, just going. Yeah, you never felt

832
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 12: like they were out of control of that game. But

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Speaker 12: thanks for taking my call, guys, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No problem, Mark. I think I think for the first

835
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: time in several weeks, the offense looked easy and free flowing.

836
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: And I think it was partially a byproduct of the

837
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Speaker 2: tempo changes that Dorsey instituted, as marked our last college

838
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: just said, going into sugar huddle. And I also believe

839
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Speaker 2: that getting more people involved just makes the whole thing

840
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: look like a video game. And that's kind of what

841
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: we witnessed last night that first drive. Tampa was on

842
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: their heels. They didn't know what was coming next and

843
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: who was making the next play, and when they spread

844
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: the field like that and go empty and just for

845
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: everyone's info, because I did pass this along on the

846
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: broadcast as well. Going into the game, the Bills were

847
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: third in the league in use of empty sets at

848
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Speaker 2: just over twelve percent, which doesn't sound like much. They

849
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: were an empty set a lot more than twelve percent

850
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: of their plays last night, and there are benefits to

851
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: doing that. Number One, you spread the field horizontally. Number two,

852
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: you get the defense to declare what they're doing earlier,

853
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: which then gives Josh a better sense number one of

854
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: what the defense is trying to do and where he

855
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: needs to go with the football before the ball is

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Speaker 2: even snapped. What's the result of that. The ball's out

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00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: of his hands faster than in any other game in

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00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: his career last night, at an average of two point

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Speaker 2: twenty seven seconds. It gives him quicker answers. The pass

860
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: rush is completely neutralized, and off you go. So as

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00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: long as you can throw and catch the football accurately

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00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: and consistently, you're gonna move right down the field. And

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Speaker 2: so that I think a lot of people came out

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Speaker 2: of last night's game saying, this is the formula for

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Speaker 2: this offense going forward. If A they want to get

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Speaker 2: in an early rhythm, b they want to stay on

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Speaker 2: the field, and three they want to score points at

868
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: a rate that takes the burden off of their defense,

869
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: which is still shorthanded due to injuries. It's the formula

870
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: going forward. It's as clear as day. And then regarding Kincaid,

871
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: I think he has the potential to be a Kelsey

872
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: like player in this offense, maybe not this year. As

873
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 2: a rookie, but in a year or two, wouldn't shock

874
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: me if he's the number one option in this offense,

875
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: because by then Diggs is thirty three. If he's still

876
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: even on the team, you know, two or three years

877
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: from now, is he the same guy. I don't know.

878
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: By then, Kincaid's in his third or fourth season. He

879
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: might be the Kelsey of this offense, which I'm totally

880
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: fine with. So he just makes it look routine out there.

881
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: And he's played seven NFL games because he missed one

882
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: game in concussion protocol. So to be doing what he's

883
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: doing this early in his career, I think is surprising

884
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: even to this coaching staff. I asked coach McDermott last

885
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: night after the game, part of the big reason why

886
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: you drafted Dalton Kincaid is because of how surehanded he is.

887
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: He's caught everything in sight. He does not have a

888
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: drop this season, and I asked him has he even

889
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: managed to exceed expectations? And coach kind of laughed it off.

890
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: He said, Wow, you're asking me a pretty deep question there.

891
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is he is doing everything and

892
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more than people expected this early

893
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: in his career, and and and the Bills are lucky

894
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: that he is because it only diversifies the offense all

895
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: the more. Let's go to let's see Stan in Buffalo next.

896
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: What do you got for a Stan? You're on One

897
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

898
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, I always love talking to you guys. We

899
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 13: had a big dub here, not going to bring up

900
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 13: Dorsey and plays. Two things. One is we have the

901
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 13: trade trade trade deadline coming up, and I know you

902
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 13: guys know the numbers that they put in. What do

903
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 13: you what do you think an opportunity for elam and

904
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 13: a tune of four for certain out of Denver if

905
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 13: that can happen, there rebuilding. We can use a corner

906
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 13: right now. And Steve, you and I always beg to

907
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 13: differ on this one. I don't think that Cook needs

908
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 13: twenty five carries. I think he needs twenty touches a game.

909
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 13: I think if the kid gets four passing receptions in

910
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 13: fifteen or sixteen rushes, we're looking at one hundred and

911
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 13: twenty five hundred and thirty yards a game out of him.

912
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 13: Love you, guys, I'm gonna hang up and listen.

913
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Stan. Steve had to step out for a segment.

914
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: He'll be back in a bit, but I'm happy to

915
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: answer that.

916
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

917
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: I was saying this week prior to this game that

918
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: there needs to be a youth movement on this offense.

919
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: And I was a proponent that your two most dynamic

920
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: playmakers after Digs are Kincaid and Cook, and they need

921
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: to be factored in the passing game more going forward.

922
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 2: We saw it with Kincaid, haven't seen it yet with Cook,

923
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: but Shakir stepped up as a second year player, so

924
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: maybe that's the answer. But I think Cook does need

925
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: more touches. I would agree with that, whether it's running

926
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: or receiving the football, and we did. I'd see him

927
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: split out wide a number of times. He just wasn't

928
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: targeted as much, and that's fine. You know, in a

929
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: given week maybe he isn't, but maybe next week he is.

930
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: I think he's too dynamic a weapon to not use

931
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: that often. So I would be inclined to agree with you, Stan.

932
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: And then as for your trade proposal, I mean, to me,

933
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: that's a lot to give up because you're essentially giving

934
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: up a first round pick player. I realize you're getting

935
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: a top ten player back because he was a top

936
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: ten pick of the Broncos, but a two and a four,

937
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: knowing how much Brandon Bean covets his draft capital, I

938
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: think that might be too steep a price. Of course,

939
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: then again, he gave up what a one and a

940
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: four for Stefan Diggs, so Sirtan is probably in that area.

941
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: So if you put Elim in the deal and go

942
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: to and I don't think you have to even go

943
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: that high. I think Elam maybe with a three and

944
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: a four could get it done. And knowing the Bills

945
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: should get an extra three and a compensatory pick by

946
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: virtue of the loss of the free agent departure of

947
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmonds, you know, maybe that's something that gets it done.

948
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: I'd prefer to see Kyer Elam stay and get better

949
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: as a player and make a difference on the field

950
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: for this team, but maybe that's not in the cards.

951
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate we have to take a break here because

952
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: when we come back, senior producer from NFL Films, Greg

953
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: co Sell, fresh out of the film room, chopping up

954
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: this game tape from last night. How early did he

955
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: get up to do it? We'll find out when we

956
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: return here. On One Bill's Live, presented by Colta Health.

957
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: It's s Buffalo Bills Radio.

958
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: This one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

959
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: And here we are an hour number two on a

960
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Speaker 2: Buffalo victory Friday, which means we get immediate reaction to

961
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: Buffalo's latest effort from one Greg Cosell, senior producer from

962
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: NFL Films, whose segment as always brought to you by

963
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Speaker 2: Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site work partner of the

964
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Greg got into the office early to chop

965
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: up this tape before taping that matchup show for ESPN.

966
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: What dedication, Greg, We're humbled by your dedication.

967
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well for you guys, Brownie, you know anything.

968
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: You know, I actually even stayed up and watched the

969
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: whole game, which you know, for me, that's way past

970
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 4: my bedtime. So not only did I watch the game

971
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 4: on TV, I came in early so I could watch

972
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Speaker 4: the tape.

973
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's begin with the offense. There were a

974
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: lot of people that wanted to see some tempo changes

975
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: to it, some hurry up. We saw that on the

976
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: first drive as a matter of fact, and spreading the

977
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 2: field a lot more. Why don't we start here, because

978
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 2: we've talked about this on occasion. Spreading the field forces

979
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: the defense to declare a little earlier, as we know,

980
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: they can't disguise as well necessarily, and more often than not,

981
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: it gives the quarterback easier reads to make correct.

982
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way I would talk about it last night

983
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: is this, you know, here's what we don't know, and

984
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: maybe you know I don't. Obviously I'm not in the building.

985
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 4: We don't know if what they did last night was

986
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 4: meant solely for the Bills to get them going, or

987
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: it was meant for the opponent, or a combination of both.

988
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 4: And the reason I say what I said, Brownie, is this,

989
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: when you go no huddle tempo against a team that

990
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: has multiple pressure concepts, you totally minimize what they can

991
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: do from a pressure standpoint because it shrinks your menu

992
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: when you play against no huddle. When a defense plays

993
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: against no huddle tempo, it shrinks their defensive menu. The

994
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: calls can't be as extensive. And the other factor too,

995
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 4: is is it also when you're no huddle on offense,

996
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: you know what the defense more than likely is going

997
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: to be in because they have to get into what

998
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 4: they are going to be in and they can't do

999
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: as much pre snap communication. So those two things are

1000
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: absolutely critical. It shrinks their menu as far as their

1001
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: pressure schemes, and we know Todd Bowles is a big

1002
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: pressure guy and very good at it. And it also

1003
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: forces them to sort of show their hand as you suggested,

1004
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 4: and play what we often called default coverage because we

1005
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 4: know what that coverage is going to be based on

1006
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: film study. So you know, it worked in many ways

1007
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: in both categories because the Bills obviously needed some kind

1008
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 4: of little shove as it were, to get their offense

1009
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: going and this particular opponent, it worked effectively against this

1010
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: particular opponent.

1011
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bucks came into the game with the third highest

1012
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: blitz rate in the league at just over forty percent,

1013
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: and they couldn't even change their personnel groupings because of

1014
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: the toblow as well. So that helped Josh with some

1015
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: easy declarations as well. And I want to tip my

1016
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: hat to Ken Dorsey, who doesn't get a lot of

1017
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: credit around these parts of late It's the first time

1018
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: that I can remember, Greg that I saw Gabe Davis

1019
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: run a quick slant at a lot of underneath routes

1020
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: for him, a lot of shorter routes with higher percentage

1021
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: throws and look at the results, a career high for

1022
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: a single game nine receptions. There's a part of me

1023
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: that wonders, like, has Gabe Davis been hamstrung by the

1024
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: deeper routes on lower percentage throws that he has run

1025
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: for virtually his entire career in Buffalo after seeing what

1026
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: we saw last night, what's your take on that?

1027
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and that's a hard question to answer. Let's

1028
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 4: put it this way. Last night, Alan on average got

1029
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: the ball out of his hands in two point three seconds,

1030
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 4: which is the lowest in his career by a big margin,

1031
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: and by the way, lower than let's say, Tua for

1032
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: this whole season. So you know, they made a commitment

1033
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: to getting the ball out quick. The RPO game was

1034
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 4: a major part of what they did. And so I

1035
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 4: don't know if that was Gabe, if that's a function

1036
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: of Gabe gave Davis per se, or if that's just

1037
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 4: you know, in a sense, part of the offense. You know,

1038
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: what they chose to do. But obviously it was very,

1039
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 4: very effective. So there was not you know, other than Shakir.

1040
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 4: And by the way, I was really happy to see that,

1041
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: you know how I felt about Shakir coming out of

1042
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: Boise that I thought he could be a really solid

1043
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 4: number three type receiver and maybe he's going to sort

1044
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: of fall into that category now, but you know, it

1045
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 4: seems like that may be the case. But anyway, you know,

1046
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: I think it all kind of went together. You know,

1047
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: I don't think Gave Davis is gonna have nine receptions

1048
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 4: every week, That's unlikely. But I think it all fit

1049
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: into sort of the plan and the approach. And I

1050
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: mean that ball came out quick, whether it was RPO

1051
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 4: or just quick game throws. And the other thing that

1052
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 4: does too is when you when you play quick like

1053
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 4: that against defenses, you feel very comfortable in understanding what

1054
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 4: they are. It really defines the reds and the throws.

1055
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 4: So because I thought Josh looked really comfortable, he looked

1056
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: calculated even when he moved, I got the sense that

1057
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: the movement was more calculated as opposed to sort of

1058
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 4: random and you know, wondering what's going to happen. It

1059
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: just seemed like it was so much more controlled.

1060
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they might have run I didn't

1061
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: get a tally on it, but they might have run

1062
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: more RPOs last night than they did all seasons so far.

1063
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 4: It was a lot we started. We charted on our

1064
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 4: end here and unless we're wrong, you know, maybe we're

1065
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 4: off by one or two, but we charted ten.

1066
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's that's definitely more than they had probably

1067
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: run in any other game this season, pretty easily. I

1068
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: felt like they moved I mean, they moved Gabe Davis around,

1069
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: but we saw him in the slot, you know, and

1070
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: and getting to Shakir as well. You know, I asked

1071
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: him this question after the game. It just seems like

1072
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: the best way to maximize Shakir is to get the

1073
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: ball in his hands as early in the down as possible,

1074
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: because he is so good after the catch. And we

1075
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: saw that last night.

1076
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's one of the things I loved about

1077
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: it coming out of college. Yes, And and you know,

1078
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 4: if you see, the thing is so if you're going

1079
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 4: to throw the ball short, you want to have players

1080
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: like that. You want to give guys an opportunity to

1081
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: run after catch. And you know, Shakira is he's probably

1082
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: the best guy on their roster as a receiver. Let's

1083
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 4: put Hardy aside for the moment. He's a little different

1084
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 4: kind of player, but of the sort of main receiver tights,

1085
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: Shakira is clearly the best run after catch guy.

1086
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Right, and then.

1087
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: I can't believe we got this far without mentioning the

1088
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: rookie tight end. One of the main reasons they drafted

1089
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: him was because of how surehanded he is. He came

1090
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: into this game with the highest catch rate in the

1091
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: league greg at ninety two point six percent, and last

1092
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: night catches five of the seven targets, no drops and

1093
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: to One of his best receptions was the touchdown, which

1094
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: was clearly behind his body frame and he just casually

1095
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: reaches back, pulls it in and goes twenty two yards

1096
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: for a touchdown.

1097
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: Well, the catch I loved. I mean taking nothing away

1098
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: from that one. Of course. I love the one where

1099
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: it was a second reaction movement play by Josh to

1100
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 4: his left and you'll remember this, of course. Uh and

1101
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: then Kincaid just to his route and went up the

1102
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: left sideline and Josh threw it to him and he

1103
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: caught it. And you know, with both feet and bounds.

1104
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: You remember that one.

1105
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I thought here.

1106
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was a great catch, just an

1107
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 4: unbelievable catch. So yeah, that's it.

1108
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: So he makes it look so easy, though, Greg it

1109
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: looks effortless.

1110
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: Great. Well, he's another guy I loved coming out of college.

1111
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: I thought he was you know, we talked about that

1112
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: when he was drafted. We said that. You know, again,

1113
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: when I talk about comparisons and and we all do

1114
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: in the draft evaluation business as it were, you're not

1115
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: necessarily saying a player is exactly the same player because

1116
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: people get it, you know, they think that's what you're saying.

1117
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not saying that. Told Kinkaid's a first

1118
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer like Travis Kelsey's going to be

1119
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 4: a first ballot Hall of Famer, But in terms of

1120
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: how he can be used within the context of an offense,

1121
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 4: how he can be deployed, he can be deployed in

1122
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 4: much the same way.

1123
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about this offense going forward. Now,

1124
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: this approach worked very well against a blitz heavy defense.

1125
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: Since Cincinnati is next on the docket, I'm encouraged by

1126
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: the way they utilized the middle of the field, which

1127
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: I was nervous about because Devin White, you know, Levante,

1128
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: David Antwine, Winfield, I mean, those guys are ballhawks, so

1129
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: I know they worked the perimeter early. I like the

1130
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: way they eventually got to the middle of the field

1131
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more, not to any great degree, but

1132
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: do you think going forward, Kincaid and Shakir could potentially

1133
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: unlock the middle of the field more effectively for Buffalo's

1134
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: passing game.

1135
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: I mean, my immediate answer to that would be yes.

1136
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 4: But you brought up a great point, Brownie. You know,

1137
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: it's tough to know until they play their next game

1138
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 4: whether last night was more about Buffalo or more about

1139
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 4: the opponent they were playing. And it's tough to know

1140
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 4: the answer to that because the Bengals not that they

1141
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: don't blitz at all. They do obviously, but they're not

1142
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: the same kind of defense. So that's a hard question

1143
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: to know. You know what's really interesting is the one

1144
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 4: Josh only missed one throw last night, and it may

1145
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: well have been a touchdown. He overthrew Davis on his slant.

1146
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 4: And you know, when I watched the tape and I

1147
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 4: saw how the safety reacted, I forget whether it was

1148
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: Winfield or Neil. It might have been Winfield. He might

1149
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: still be running if he had caught that, just because

1150
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: of the way the safety reacted. But the point is

1151
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 4: the point I'm trying to make is you just don't know.

1152
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 9: Uh.

1153
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: And the one thing that they still need to work toward,

1154
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 4: but I thought last night was a really strong step

1155
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: in the right direction. They still need to work toward

1156
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 4: more explosive plays in the past game because last night

1157
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: worked beautifully and they needed it. They needed Josh to

1158
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: feel comfortable. You know, obviously they ran him on the

1159
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: second play of the game with a designed run. You know,

1160
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 4: they needed all all that to happen last night. And

1161
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 4: my guess is they're still kicking themselves for not scoring

1162
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: again after the first drive of the third quarter. They

1163
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 4: probably should have thought they could have scored forty last night.

1164
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: But so they you know, in their mind, they're not

1165
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 4: gonna come away saying, man, that was the perfect performance.

1166
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 4: They're gonna be happy with some of the things they

1167
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 4: did tactically and execution wise, but I guarantee that in

1168
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 4: the building they're going to think that there's still more

1169
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 4: to be done. They're still going to need to try

1170
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 4: to create more explosives in the past game because you

1171
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: can't count I mean, as much as you want Shakira

1172
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 4: and Kincaida, and they're both good run after catch players,

1173
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 4: they can both take a short throw and turn it

1174
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 4: into something more. You've got to get the ball down

1175
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: the field at some point, and you know, they've struggled

1176
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 4: a little bit with that over the last month or so.

1177
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: Right, and then with respect to how this team is

1178
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: going to win games going forward, it's still pretty clear

1179
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: to most of us anyway that this defense is not

1180
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: the same with all the players that they lost. So

1181
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: in our eyes, the burden falls on the offense to

1182
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: keep their foot on the gas and keep scoring points,

1183
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: particularly against some of these teams that's coming up on

1184
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: the schedule, like Cincinnati, like Philadelphia, like Kansas City, even

1185
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: the Chargers, they're gonna have to keep their foot on

1186
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: the gas and keep scoring points because as long as

1187
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: they're up on the scoreboard, the healthiest part of Buffalo's defense,

1188
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: their pass rush can go hunt the quarterback because the

1189
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: other team's gonna have to throw the ball to keep up.

1190
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 4: And the pass rush, as I think you would agree,

1191
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 4: is going to have to be better now. Von Miller

1192
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 4: I assume is going to play more snaps going forward.

1193
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 4: He predominantly played in the dime last night. I assume

1194
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: he'll get more snaps. You know, theoretically each week. But

1195
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 4: your point's a good one. I mean, you know, the

1196
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 4: thing is is the way they played last night, which

1197
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 4: had an efficiency and a calculation to it, is something

1198
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 4: that they do need to lean on, and then they

1199
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 4: need to expand that because you know, as you said,

1200
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 4: the offense may have to carry them to some degree

1201
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 4: and therefore you can't turn the ball over. And obviously

1202
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: the interception was slooky, so that you know, that wasn't

1203
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: a case of oh my god, you know what's going on?

1204
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: You know, but yes, they can't turn the ball over

1205
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 4: because look how many times did they punt last night

1206
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 4: and the ball went inside the ten yard line. See,

1207
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 4: that's the other factory. That's a key thing is even

1208
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: if you're not scoring, but if you're not turning it

1209
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: over and you have to punt, look what happens. Then

1210
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 4: you know that you take it the opponent, opposing offense

1211
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 4: might have to go eighty five ninety yards. That's a

1212
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 4: tough deal.

1213
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. I would also say von Miller looked his mosts.

1214
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: There was there was suddenness to his game. Maybe for

1215
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: the first time this season, almost had a sack. I mean,

1216
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: he had Mayfield's leg wrapped up and he somehow managed

1217
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: to throw it away. He is a slippery quarterback. I

1218
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: got to give him credit because he worked his way

1219
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: out of a couple of jams last night.

1220
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 6: He did.

1221
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1222
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the coverage though for the Bills defensively, I thought,

1223
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: help the pass rush at times. I know you said

1224
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: it probably still needs to be a little bit more

1225
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: effect and consistent in getting the quarterback on the ground.

1226
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: But just your thoughts maybe on Benford and Jackson in

1227
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: particular on the outside and then I want to get

1228
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: to the dime defense in a second here, but just

1229
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: Benford and Jackson off the cuff here.

1230
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, overall, I thought that it was solid.

1231
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously they were not hurt badly. I think

1232
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 4: some of that's baker I think baker Is did not

1233
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 4: play particularly well, but that's you know, but Benford's the

1234
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: boundary corner, Jackson's the field corner, and you know that's

1235
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 4: the way they played. I thought, you know, like I said,

1236
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 4: they weren't really hurt by any big plays. Because the

1237
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 4: Godwin thirty one yarder, I forget when that occurred. I

1238
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: think it was in the second quarter. That was not

1239
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 4: really a function of either of the outside corners. That

1240
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 4: was a particular coverage that where they asked Johnson to

1241
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 4: do something that he doesn't often do. But you know,

1242
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 4: so they weren't really hurt by it. So, you know,

1243
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 4: I think those guys played well. But as I said,

1244
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 4: I think Baker, you know, he kind of lacks clarity

1245
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: and envision in the pocket. I think he gets stuck

1246
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 4: in the pocket a lot. That's not likely to happen

1247
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 4: with Joe Burrows, so it'll be a much different test

1248
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 4: in nine days.

1249
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: Bills used dime in this game up and Taylor rap

1250
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: comes on to the field in the three safety look.

1251
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: It allowed Poyer to play closer to the line of scrimmage.

1252
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: Poyer probably should have had a couple of interceptions in

1253
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: this game, didn't come up with.

1254
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 4: You d walk in one in the fourth quarter would

1255
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: put the game away.

1256
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: That's right, So maybe just talk to me about what

1257
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 2: you believe the Bills are trying to achieve with that

1258
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: dime look.

1259
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you know you're getting obviously another

1260
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 4: defensive back on the field. It allowed them to play

1261
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: a lot of split safety looks, which maybe they're not

1262
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 4: as comfortable playing, you know, without playing dime. Again, I

1263
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 4: don't know that's a Sean McDermott question. But whenever they

1264
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: played dime and they played two on the back end,

1265
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 4: as you said, Poyer was always down down in you know,

1266
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: as an underneath defender. He was not a back end

1267
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 4: safety rap and hide with the back end safeties, they

1268
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: played some man coverage out of it. They played three

1269
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 4: snaps of two man coverage. All of it came in dime.

1270
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 4: So that's a coverage they probably don't really want to

1271
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: play unless they're in dime, so it gives them another

1272
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 4: option from a coverage perspective. So yeah, there's there's reasons

1273
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 4: why you do it.

1274
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 5: You know.

1275
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: Essentially, when you when you play dying with two deep safeties,

1276
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 4: you're going to rush for for the most part, so

1277
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: we'll see you know, again, that's another case where was

1278
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 4: that specific to the team they were playing or is

1279
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 4: that going to be something that now becomes a meaningful

1280
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: part of what they do. They played twenty two snaps

1281
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: of dime, Brownie, that's a lot of snaps of dime

1282
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: for them.

1283
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, even for them. And then finally Greg greg Russo

1284
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 2: we've seen kick inside before, but in the absence of

1285
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: Daikwon Jones. We're seeing more of it in the last

1286
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and we saw it again last night.

1287
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: It's not like he's uncomfortable playing down in there. He

1288
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: did it at Miami. What are your thoughts about him

1289
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: there as an inside rusher, A player that long against

1290
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: a guard who usually has shorter arms, like he should

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Speaker 2: win there, right, And.

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Speaker 4: I would expect to see that more, especially as von

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Speaker 4: Miller gets more snaps, because I think Lloyd for Floyd

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Speaker 4: excuse me, for the most part, has played well this year.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think you'd probably agree with that that

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Speaker 4: he's been a good player great And I think you'd

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Speaker 4: want Floyd and Miller being on the edge and Ruce.

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Speaker 4: You know, you'd want your best pass rushers on the

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Speaker 4: field in those situations, you know, so third down, third

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Speaker 4: and long, you know, if you're going to rush for

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Speaker 4: and play with with dime, I think you would want

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Speaker 4: Russeau on the field, not off the field. And I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, with Miller and Floyd playing well, you would

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Speaker 4: pick Russeau inside. And I think that's a good deal.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I think that'll be a really

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Speaker 4: good deal against Cincinnati. So I would expect to see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, thanks as always, we appreciate it, and we'll

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Speaker 2: catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to it. Brownie, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, that senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell,

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Speaker 2: joining us as he does every week, got a special

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Speaker 2: treat though. He chopped the game up right away here

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Speaker 2: on a Friday instead of previewing a game as he

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Speaker 2: usually does for us. So when we catch up with

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Speaker 2: him next week, he'll preview Bills Bengals, the big Sunday

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Speaker 2: night matchup next week, So looking forward to that conversation already.

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Speaker 2: Bengals incidentally have a big game against the Niners, although

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Speaker 2: they may catch a break and get them with Sam

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01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 2: Darnold at quarterback instead of Brock Perty Who's I believe

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Speaker 2: in concussion protocol if memory serves correctly. But let's let's

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Speaker 2: get back to the phones at eight h three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty to get your biggest takeaways from yesterday's game,

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Speaker 2: and we go to Glenn in Newfane next, who's been

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Speaker 2: waiting patiently. What do you go for his plan?

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks for taking my call, first of all, sure,

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Speaker 5: great game, thank you Bills for bringing me out of

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Speaker 5: my doldrums. My question is regarding the Tampa Bay kicker

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Speaker 5: taking off his helmet on the field, literally while an

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01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 5: official is trying to push him away from the melee

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01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 5: or whatever you want to call it. So it's not

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Speaker 5: like the guy the official did not see it. He's

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Speaker 5: actually got his hand on the kicker. There's no way

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Speaker 5: he missed it. He's two feet away from what's going on,

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Speaker 5: takes his helmet off, which I thought was fifteen yards

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 5: right then, but then proceeds to take the helmet and

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 5: looks like he's trying to smash Rousseau in the face

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Speaker 5: with it. They confer, The officials all conferred and then

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Speaker 5: said there's no penalty. I'm having a hard time trying

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Speaker 5: to understand why that is not a penalty.

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Speaker 2: Right, I get what you're saying, Glenn. I did get

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: to see an extra angle of that, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you caught this angle, Butterrel Bernard's hand was

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01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: on the punter's face mask and in my opinion, he

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: helped lift Kamarta's helmet off. And then Kamarta is looking

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: at the ref in disbelief, like, hey, this guy's taking

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: my helmet off. What the heck's going on? So it's

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Speaker 2: a matter of interpretation on that play. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: see that until about the fourth or fifth angle of

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01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: what went on there, And that's when I saw because

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01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: I initially thought about that play the same way you did, Glenn.

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is Kamarta doing. He's gonna use his

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01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: helmet as a weapon. That's a penalty, personal foul for

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: unnecessary roughness or whatever you want to call it. But

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Speaker 2: then I saw a reverse angle and I saw Terrel

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: Bernard's hand on Kmarta's face mask and he helped lift

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: his helmet off his head, and then he quickly pulled

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: his hands back, like hey, I'm not doing anything, and

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01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: was fortunate not to get called for something himself. So

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Speaker 2: I think based on that, I would assume after a

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01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: long conference by the officials during the television break, they said, look,

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: this is minor in nature. Kmarta was not using his

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01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: helmet as a weapon. Bernard helped take it off his head,

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Speaker 2: but then pulled his hands back, So it looks like

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Speaker 2: nobody really wanted to do anything egregious here. Let's pick

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 2: up the flag and move on. Because I think What

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Speaker 2: would have happened if they called something is what you

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Speaker 2: typically see reps do, and it's a cop out, offsetting penalties,

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Speaker 2: replay the down. So in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would have necessarily changed the game,

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Speaker 2: although that's hard to say in any situation. But I

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Speaker 2: do believe that what you had there was a situation

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Speaker 2: that didn't rise to the level where it was egregious

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Speaker 2: and had to be addressed. The officials just decided, you

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Speaker 2: know what, let's just pick up the flag and move

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01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 2: on here. That's my best guess as to how they

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01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: interpreted everything last night. Look, I wasn't impressed with the

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 2: officiating crew. I'm sure you weren't either. To me, the

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Speaker 2: most egregious call that was made was the illegal contact

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01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: on Taron Johnson on fourth down. That was a terrible call.

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01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: They called it and gave a fresh set of downs

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Speaker 2: to the Bucks on that drive, which as we know,

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: got extended again by the Jordan Phillips face mask on

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01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield on the sack. That should have been called

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Speaker 2: and was. So it's unfortunate, but I think, as I say,

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Speaker 2: I go into every game every week now expecting poor calls.

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Speaker 2: From the officials. The key for the Bills is to

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: make so many plays in the game that a bad

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Speaker 2: call or two, or maybe even three doesn't cost you

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Speaker 2: the game. Put yourself in a position where you've made

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Speaker 2: enough of your own breaks to have enough margin for

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Speaker 2: error to accommodate poor officiating, because it is undoubtedly going

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Speaker 2: to happen each and every week at some point in

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Speaker 2: the football game. And I think if you go into

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Speaker 2: a game with that thought, your blood pressure won't be

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Speaker 2: going through the roof every single week as it may

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Speaker 2: want to do. Based on some of the officiating we've

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Speaker 2: seen so far this season, and not just with Bills games.

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Speaker 2: This is across the league. Unfortunately, it's an epidemic in

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Speaker 2: my opinion. Let's get to the tweet sheet we haven't

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Speaker 2: gotten there yet for some comments from you on your

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: biggest takeaways from the Bills win over the Bucks. Tweets

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Speaker 2: sheet is always brought to you by Cory and Moving Systems,

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Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Chad

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Speaker 2: leads us off and says, my biggest takeaway is that

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Speaker 2: we need to be quicker to fit our systems to

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Speaker 2: our personnel. Felt like there was an acceptance of that

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Speaker 2: by what the team did yesterday, and that was promising.

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Speaker 2: Also that missing Ed Oliver last week was a huge

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Speaker 2: loss for US. Yeah, missing Ed along with Daiquon and

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Speaker 2: Milano and Tredavius was almost too much for the Bill's

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Speaker 2: defense to overcome last week against the Patriots, and it

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01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: was noticeable they couldn't stop the run, they couldn't get

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01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: the Patriots in long down and distance, and it was

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Speaker 2: one of the worst offenses in football. So it was troubling.

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Speaker 1: Good to have Ed back.

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Speaker 2: He made a difference last night, did have a sack.

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: He now has five on the season, which is the

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Speaker 2: most that he's ever had in a single season. He's

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01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: having a career year right now, so we got to

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: hope he can stay healthy. As for fitting the scheme

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Speaker 2: to the personnel, I think Sean McDermott sounded the alarm

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01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: on that last week. He was asked about that and

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01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: he's like, look, we're seven games in. We have to

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01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: know what our players do best by now. I always

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: think there's a ramp up period because rosters turn over

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01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty percent every year, so it is

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01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 2: an exercise every single September. In October to kind of

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Speaker 2: get a feel as to what your players do best.

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: Maybe they were a little slow on the run up

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: to that, but the point is they found it now.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: And we always hear this adage you want to be

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Speaker 2: playing your best in November and December, and I think

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01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: for the offense anyway, yesterday was a giant step in

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Speaker 2: that direction. So hopefully that continues.

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Speaker 1: We gotta take a.

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: Break here, but when we come back, we're gonna go

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Speaker 2: Around the Locker Room with head coach Sean McDermott, who's

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Speaker 2: addressing the media the day after the twenty four eighteen

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01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 2: victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We'll have him next

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live on

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01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: this Buffalo victory Friday. Time for a special edition of

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Speaker 2: Around the Locker Room presented by Connect Life, your Blood

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Speaker 2: and organ Donor Network. Because we have head coach Sean

1446
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: McDermott addressing the media the day after the game, so

1447
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: he's taken a look at the film and may have

1448
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 2: an update on a couple of injury notes. Let's go

1449
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: now to head coach Sean McDermott.

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01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 14: We came out pretty clean other than Josh's shoulder yesterday

1451
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 14: which is sore. At this point, Bayalen and and Q

1452
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 14: Marris continue to improve. We'll see where they where they

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 14: go in the days ahead.

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01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 10: Here, you mentioned your team's increased energy during the last game,

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01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 10: specifically in the locker room with Stefan Diggs. What do

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01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 10: you feel that energy may have been lacking early in

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 10: the season.

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01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 14: You know, I listen, I'm not going to sit here

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 14: and say it was lacking. I just think when you

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 14: when you don't get into a rhythm and things happen,

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 14: sometimes you can't find your rhythm. I think sometimes that

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01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 14: that factors. And also I think the guys you know,

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01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 14: for the most part, came out for every game with

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01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 14: him with a certain intent. But when you can't find

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 14: the rhythm early, it affects energy. Right, team energy and

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 14: think which you saw was a combination of both. From

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Speaker 14: the other end, you saw team energy and intent this game,

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01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 14: and then we got off to a good start defensive,

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01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 14: We got the ball back to the offense, and then

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Speaker 14: the offense got into a rhythm there, in particular in

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Speaker 14: Khalil's run down the sideline on second and two there

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01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 14: was impressive and it uplifted and really lifted the team.

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 10: On that same note, Daikue was out there pregame, mixing

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Speaker 10: it up with the guys on the defensive line. How

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01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 10: do you feel his presence worked for those guys yesterday

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 10: just seeing him out there and coaching those guys up

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Speaker 10: in the pre game.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, he's one of the leaders of our team

1479
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 14: right and unfortunately we don't have him, but his presence,

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 14: much like Milano's presence for Davis, his presence when they're around,

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01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 14: anytime they can be around, it just adds to our environment.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 7: Sure.

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Speaker 8: Hey Sean John Warrel here, I hope you get a

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01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 8: little bit of rest this weekend, h with being a

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01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 8: bit of a long one for you, but in perfect

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01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 8: as maybe that game was, especially at the end, it

1488
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 8: got a little bit bit scrambled. Do you think that

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Speaker 8: maybe it serves as a bit of a template in

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Speaker 8: how this team goes forward with I guess maybe a

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 8: template for your complimentary football what you wanted?

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Speaker 14: Are you saying that outside of the end of the

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Speaker 14: outside the outside of the end of the fourth quarter there.

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Speaker 8: Or I guess just the way that that game, that

1495
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 8: game went you know, the offense gets you know, kind

1496
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 8: of takes the pressure off the defense by getting by

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Speaker 8: getting a lead, and and and just the way the offense,

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01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 8: you know, just the way the offense you know, got

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Speaker 8: out to a fast start. Do you think that could

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Speaker 8: serve as a template in some ways.

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 14: Well, that's what we want to do, You're right, John,

1502
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 14: That's what we want to do. Obviously, it's hard to

1503
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 14: do that every week. You're not always going to be

1504
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 14: able to do that because they get paid on their

1505
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 14: side too, and they're good players and good coaches on

1506
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 14: the other side. But but yeah, I mean the rhythm,

1507
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 14: the energy, offense, feeding defense, defense feeding offense, special teams

1508
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 14: baked in all that, and I think I think that

1509
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 14: was evident through the better part of three quarters and

1510
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 14: then in the fourth quarter there collectively we didn't do

1511
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 14: enough to keep our foot on the gas pedal to

1512
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 14: get off the field on those fourth downs, or to

1513
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 14: manage field position on special teams with those critical penalties

1514
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 14: we had on the back to punts.

1515
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 8: And I looked like that that final play of the

1516
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 8: third quarter kind of like changed the complexion of the game.

1517
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 8: Was did you I just think he was getting a

1518
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 8: free play there because I didn't I don't know if

1519
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 8: anybody expected him getting a snap off then.

1520
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 5: Now that.

1521
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 7: That was a.

1522
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 14: Hard count situation and we didn't handle that, I thought

1523
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 14: we could have handled that better. In turn, we go

1524
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 14: from a second down in one or two and in

1525
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 14: control of the sticks and the ball, the plus forty

1526
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 14: looking for points to go up seventeen at a minimum,

1527
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 14: you know, to to a long yard situation and off schedule.

1528
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 14: So we could have handled that better.

1529
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 8: And and and last thing, is it too early to

1530
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 8: maybe start thinking about returning to Cincinnati and and and

1531
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 8: the memories that that happened there, and and how much

1532
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 8: you how might you address that with the team next week?

1533
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 14: Well, we will, we will communicate on that. I think

1534
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 14: the biggest thing that's in front of us is the

1535
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 14: football game, and that's what we have to keep it about.

1536
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 14: Is that is that game and what it's going to

1537
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 14: take to win at Cincinnati.

1538
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 8: The emotional impact though might might might that be something

1539
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 8: that you need to talk about.

1540
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, like I said, we'll discuss it. We will, We'll

1541
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 14: discuss it, but we got to keep it about the

1542
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 14: football game.

1543
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 8: I agree with that. Thanks Sean, Have a good weekend, all.

1544
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 4: Right, you too.

1545
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 8: Thanks John.

1546
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 3: Hey Sean, it's Jay with the Buffalo News. Yards after catches,

1547
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 3: an area that you guys have been working to I

1548
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 3: guess improve from from the past couple of seasons. The

1549
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 3: numbers are pretty good. Was last night maybe a pretty

1550
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 3: good example of maybe some of the improvements that you've

1551
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: shown in that category.

1552
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 14: I agree, Jay, And again starting with with Shakir's catch

1553
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 14: and run and the just on a simple outlet throw

1554
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 14: from Josh, I thought he did a good job and

1555
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 14: that was a huge play and I think that then

1556
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 14: becomes infectious right to pay get the ball out and

1557
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 14: get the ball in the hands to the playmakers and

1558
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 14: let them do their thing.

1559
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: What did you think of Jordan Ployer's game and how

1560
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 3: much of a new role was that for him or

1561
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 3: maybe just like an adjusted role, And maybe just over

1562
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 3: the couple of the past couple of weeks, have you

1563
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 3: seen him sort of elevate his game a little bit?

1564
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 5: Here?

1565
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 14: Seems like he's a little bit rejuvenated. We've moved him

1566
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 14: into the dime position on third downs in two minutes

1567
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 14: situations in particular, somewhat sometimes on second down as well,

1568
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 14: and he's playing with great energy. He's made some big

1569
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 14: time plays for us the last two games, and I'm

1570
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 14: happy for him. It's fun to watch.

1571
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 4: Great.

1572
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 15: Thanks Sean, having a good weeknd you too, hey, coach,

1573
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 15: especially with Vaughn out the first couple of the first

1574
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 15: four weeks in the season. What impact has Leonard Floyd

1575
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 15: had on the defense and how you know how big

1576
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 15: of a role has he played?

1577
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 14: H Leonard has been a good addition.

1578
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 8: Uh.

1579
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 14: He plays with good energy and he's relentless in his

1580
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 14: effort in terms of trying to get to the quarterback.

1581
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 14: So yeah, I mean with Von out we were a

1582
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 14: little bit shorthanded, and Bond's still returning, so we have

1583
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 14: to manage expectations there as well. But I think each

1584
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 14: week he's getting better.

1585
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 15: And then with James in his second year, you know,

1586
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 15: he's becoming a really critical part of this offense. How

1587
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 15: have you seen him grow from year one to year two?

1588
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 14: I think just more of a full time role, you

1589
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 14: would call it. Obviously he's splitting, splitting reps, primarily with

1590
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 14: with Tay in this case, but you know it's clear

1591
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 14: that James wants to carry even more of the load

1592
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 14: and and that'll come over the course of time. With

1593
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 14: continued high level of play like he's like he has

1594
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 14: shown at times this year.

1595
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 15: Thanks coach, having good weekend, Thanks you.

1596
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 16: Too, Hey, Sean, I wanted to follow up some on

1597
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 16: what Jay was asking about Jordan Ployer. Just what's gone

1598
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 16: into the decisions to use him a little differently on defense.

1599
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 14: Well, again, I think you use you know the resources

1600
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 14: that you have, and and so you know Jordan's this

1601
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 14: is not a position he's played with us before, but

1602
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 14: just feeling like, hey, he's he's a very smart and

1603
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 14: instinctive and tough football player. And naturally, the closer you

1604
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 14: get to the box, the tougher you need to be.

1605
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 14: And and and so even for a smaller player quote

1606
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 14: unquote is he plays bigger and so we're comfortable with

1607
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,839
Speaker 14: him closer to the line of scrimmage. And he's smart,

1608
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 14: and so his rapport with TV in this case, in

1609
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 14: those situations, two smart football players that understand the game

1610
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 14: and can impact the game for us.

1611
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's head coach Sean McDermot addressing the

1612
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: media this afternoon after watching the film and digesting the

1613
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: game on second look. Want to get back to the tweetsheet, though,

1614
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: where we're getting your biggest takeaways from the Bills win

1615
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: over the Bucks. Mikey says his biggest takeaway has to

1616
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: be the different energy that the offense had for the

1617
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: first half of the game. Loved seeing Cowboy Josh return

1618
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: to form. I gotta tell you, the first time Josh

1619
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: took off and ran with the ball, there was a

1620
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: noticeable rise in the crowd noise like, oh, my gosh,

1621
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: there he is. He's running again. There was an excitement

1622
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 2: that was audible in the stadium last night when he

1623
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: took off to run for the first time, and then

1624
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: obviously the touchdown run took the roof off the place.

1625
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: It was interesting that Josh said in the postgame because

1626
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 2: if you remember, that was the play right after the

1627
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: scramble where he dinged his shoulder. He got tripped up

1628
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: by Yaya Diabi on a scramble out to the right,

1629
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: landed right on the shoulder, and he basically told us, Yeah,

1630
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 2: wasn't really keen on throwing the football there because my

1631
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: shoulder felt like crap after I landed on it. So

1632
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 2: because Eric Wood and I on the broadcast noted that

1633
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: that was a very quick decision to run, but he

1634
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: saw his zone coverage the middle of the field opened

1635
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: up for him and he's like, all right, let me

1636
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: see if I can get in from here, and that's

1637
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: exactly what he did. But yes, there was a palpable energy.

1638
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: As you heard coach McDermott when he was addressing the media,

1639
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: it was the first time that you saw the sideline jumping.

1640
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: After Shakir made play along the sideline, he ran over

1641
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: a defender right in front of all of his teammates

1642
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: who were not in the game, and they're all jumping

1643
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: up and down after he did that. And after that

1644
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: there was a charge put into this offense and they

1645
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: went right down and kicked the field goal on a

1646
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: long drive there to start the game, and then scored

1647
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: a touchdown a short time later, and they were often

1648
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 2: running with a ten to nothing lead. Makes a huge difference.

1649
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break here, but Steve and I

1650
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: will close it up with some stats that you should

1651
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: probably know that we have yet to mention yet, and

1652
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: maybe a couple of final thoughts on the tweet sheet

1653
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 2: as well. Here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right,

1654
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: welcome back to one Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker.

1655
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 2: A couple of stats we wanted to pass along to

1656
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: you before we leave for the night, or the afternoon

1657
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: or the weekend. With six receptions, Stefan Diggs needed six

1658
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 2: to become the fourth different player in the Super Bowl

1659
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: Era to record at least six catches in each of

1660
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: his team's first eight games of a season. He had

1661
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 2: nine last night. That joins Jimmy Smith, Adam Thielen, and

1662
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 2: Wes Welker. The players with at least six receptions in

1663
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 2: the most consecutive games to begin a season in the

1664
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Era are Wes Welker, who did it in

1665
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 2: eleven games the first eleven games of the season and

1666
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,839
Speaker 2: did it twice two thousand and eight and two thousand

1667
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: and nine. Smith and Thielan each did it in eight games,

1668
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: and Diggs has now done it in seven, tying Steve

1669
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: Smith and Hines Ward. We'll see if it continues in

1670
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: Cincinnati next week. And then Steve. There's Shaq Lawson, who

1671
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 2: blocked the field goal last night and was very quick

1672
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: to tell everybody about it, And the funniest part of

1673
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: the postgame press conference last night Sean McDermott saying, yeah,

1674
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: he made sure everybody knew, not exactly subscribing to humble

1675
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: and hungry. Awesome. He knocked over Matt Smiley. The special

1676
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: teams coordinators tried to just buy it was great. Heed

1677
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: him right here, boom, Smiley goes down. That's hard to do, man,

1678
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: that It's hard to block a placement and and he

1679
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: got a piece of it. Your hand's got to be

1680
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: in the right spot. You gotta get enough depth.

1681
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: So many times you go in there and guys are

1682
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 1: in this position, the balls just offline because you can't

1683
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: like see it kicked and then reach for it. You

1684
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 1: just have to get in the way. Yeah, it's total

1685
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: happenstance and it's hard to do it.

1686
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: It might have been the camera angle. But I was

1687
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: watching that on replay and it hits Shack's hand, I'm thinking,

1688
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: if it doesn't hit his hand, I wanted to feel

1689
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 2: like it was going left.

1690
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: Might have Yeah, I was thinking that as well. But

1691
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: in later kick he hit it like exactly the same way.

1692
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: And but later kick and it did like brasses did

1693
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: the all time. It slices in. It did it hard

1694
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: in the one going towards the tunnel, So that might

1695
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: be his modus operendi. The way that kick comes through

1696
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: there might just be the way. Yeah, because the early

1697
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: later kick did the exact same thing, went left and

1698
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 1: came right back through the middle.

1699
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of final thoughts on the tweets sheet

1700
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: here quickly. Jim says the offense looked good until the

1701
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. They need to learn to put teams away

1702
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: instead of milking the clock with only a two touchdown lead.

1703
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,879
Speaker 2: And Theodore says the Bills are still hurting on defense

1704
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 2: and need to make a move before the deadline anything

1705
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: of that.

1706
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they need to. I'll get a

1707
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: little healthier as the season rules on, hopefully, And yeah,

1708
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: the payoffs it. They do have work to do. They've

1709
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: got they've got to continue to evolve and find out

1710
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: who they are on both sides of the ball, and

1711
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: they will. All right.

1712
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: Steve and I are back on Monday. We'll see you

1713
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 2: for a three hour edition at noon.