1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: It's time for a weekly conversation with Pride of the 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. Week two finally is here. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: It's been a long week, Fred, after the way things 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: went down in your neck of the woods last week. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: How are you. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm good, Jap. He's been a long week. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: But you know, as they say, in order to be great, 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: you have to have a short term memory. 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: And hopefully the guys are feeling the exact same way. 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: After you know, a tough performance. 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: You know, we saw some good stuff, but they got 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: to make sure they get that out of their minds 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: and get ready right here for the Browns. 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: And let's start with this Cleveland Browns team. I mean 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: it starts on defense for them, at least for me. 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a fantastic edge rusher and Miles Garrett. 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: They've got a linebacker who can play, who just got 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a second contract in a Wusu Koramoa. They've got a 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: three time Pro Bowl corner, so they have a guy 20 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: at every level. And Jim Schwartz as the defensive coordinator. 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: So for the Jaguars offense, Doug Peterson, Press Taylor, Trevor, 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: play callers, all that stuff. This is a fun matchup 23 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: this week. 24 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's gonna be a fun matchup, you know. 25 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: I think though, if they have some really good film 26 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 3: to dissect, you know, throughout the week, that would get 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: them in a good position. I think if the Jaguars 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: are going to do anything the Dallas tape, they can 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: see a lot in the Dallas tape, see a lot 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: of the big plays that the Cowboys were able to make, 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: and then they can neutralize a lot of stuff that 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: the Browns are gonna do in the past rush game. 33 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: The best way to neutralize that is to run the 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: ball as good as you ran in a week ago. 35 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby. You know he ran phenomenally. 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: You know Travis DT and I know he's going to 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: hurry up and get back out there. So, as we 38 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: mentioned at the top, having a short term memory, he 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: wants to make you guys forget about that fumble as well. 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: So you know they're going to come out, I believe, 41 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: and try established to run because if they passed it 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: or put it up a lot, then you give the 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: returning defensive player to hear Miles Garrett, you give him 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: a big opportunity to wreg have it and create Turner. 45 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: So run the ball, throw you fishing passes, take shots 46 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: here and there, and you can put yourself in position 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: to win. 48 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little more on the running back thing, and 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: they both got some time last week. Tank Bigsby look good, Fred, 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: So this is a good sign for this offense. 51 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: That's a good sign for the dolphense. 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: You know, I think the big thing that we've always 53 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: talked about with Tank is, you know, making sure he 54 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: holds onto the ball. 55 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: You know, that can destroy your confidence as a runner 56 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: so much. 57 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: It destroys the confidence of the coaches and the guys 58 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: that have to alternate the guys, and so, you know, 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: he had a good showing, had a very solid preseason. 60 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: You know, he followed that up by a great outing 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: versus the Dolphins. I thought he was going to take 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: that one ninety eight yards, got a little tripped up there, 63 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: end up be in a twenty six yard run. 64 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: But Tank has the tools. 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: He certainly has good size, good speed to make it 66 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: happen and hopefully, you know, those guys can be a 67 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: good interchangeable group like Maurice and myself and myself and 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: other backs that I had to share the backfield with. 69 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: Uh Hopefully they can be you know, the highlight and 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: the focal point of the Jags offense this year, which 71 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: would mean you know a lot of pressure off of 72 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: Trevor where he can go back there and you know, 73 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: the play Carter can press, can keep the opposing defenses 74 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: off balance, and it would just be good things for 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 3: the Jaguars offense altogether. 76 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Brett Taylor with US prior to the Jaguars Running Back 77 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Pivot podcast co hosts Jaguars Coming Up. What's going on 78 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson? 79 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: Man, That's that's a loaded question on and off the field. 80 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on with the Shawn Watson. 81 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of like my kids playing Pokemon Go. 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: You're like, I don't have a clue what they're doing. 83 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: The same with DeShawn, Like, I don't know what's going on, 84 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: but I did hear him come out, you know, and 85 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: off barness. As a former athlete, someone who's been in 86 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: the exact same cherish him, someone who's had to deal 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: with you know, loss, stress and all that other different stuff. 88 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: And I'm not making any excuses for him. The past 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: is the past. He's only played thirteen or fourteen games 90 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: for the Browns. Obviously, we know a big a lot 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: of those games or the miss games, the big reason 92 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: why with the. 93 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: Whole off the field stuff. 94 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: But you know, when he's on the field, it's it's 95 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 3: mind boggling that you go from being such a great, 96 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: you know, potentially great quarterback when you're in Houston. The 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: Browns reached for him, play him all that guaranteed money, 98 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: and then it seems that he's a no show. You know, 99 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 3: but I believe the Shawn. He still works out hard. 100 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: I know exactly, I know his agent, I know where 101 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: he trains. He's doing all the necessary things to put 102 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: himself in position to go out there and play well. 103 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: It's just not translating for him. So you know, he 104 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: lost his father a week ago. You know, he lost 105 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: his friend for teammate there and Clemson, So you know, 106 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: you I want to give him some grace, right at 107 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: least for last week. As a fan, we have to 108 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: also understand that these players are human too. As much 109 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: as we want them to go out there and be 110 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: a you know, this tough NFL pro football player, you know, 111 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: life is life and life is gonna life. 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: So I want to give him grace. 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: Extend that to him for a week one at least, 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: or actually JP realistically however long he needs, you know, 115 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: because life is life and that's his family involved. But 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: I root for him, you know. I like this Sean. 117 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: I think he's a good kid or a good young man. 118 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: We've had some conversations. Toss out the allegations. That's not 119 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: my place to judge. 120 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: But from the guy I've talked to, h he's been 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: very respectful and humble in his approach. But I don't know. 122 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: But I do know that the Jaguars past rushing the 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: defense that they can play, you know, as they played 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: last week for the first three quarters of that game, 125 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: first three and a half quarters for that game. For 126 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: the for the most part of it, minus those two 127 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: big plays to Tyreek and your guy Waddle, your Bama guy, 128 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be okay and getting after Deshaun 129 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: and securing a first home win of the season. 130 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Bret Taylor with US Tyson Campbell. Sounds like it could 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: be down for a little bit. Doug Peterson didn't seem 132 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: too positive about that hamstring diagnosis. He's never wanted to 133 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: give full details or give a timeline. He just doesn't 134 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: want to hold a player to that. But I know 135 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: you're close to Tyson and he just looked so frustrated 136 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: on the sideline that he knew, boy, it's happened again. 137 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that tricky. That's that tricky hamstring. 138 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: And you know Doug is right, you know, he doesn't 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: really have a clue, especially when it comes to hamstrings. 140 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: If you get an mc L you could say three 141 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: to four weeks, maybe five at the most, depending the 142 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: severity of it. A cl we know he's gonna be 143 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: lost for the year Achilles. Same thing with all the 144 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: other injuries, but hamstrings, it's the most. You asked what 145 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: was going on with Deshaun Watson. The hamstrings like makes 146 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: you ask the same question, how long win? Where you 147 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: think you're ready to go, you burst on it and 148 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: then next thing you know, you're out again. You pull 149 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: it again. Tyson's father, he uh texts me it's like, hey, 150 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: you talk to Tyson, you know, kind of give him 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: some pointers what to do with the hamstring. The first 152 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: person I thought it was the guy who I trained 153 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: with the Pete Bamrito down here, uh and Bo Marito performance. 154 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: You know, I was going to extend reach out to 155 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: Pete to ask him if he could do anything and 156 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: help Tyson. I don't know what it is, JP, I 157 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: don't know if it's hip, you know, as the game goes, 158 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: if it's his hip alignment, if it's exhaustion, if it's 159 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: going like I don't have a clue. You go playing 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: the entire offseason and practice, you're practicing fast, and then 161 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: you get in a game and it's a different change 162 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: of pace, it's more plays, and man, it's such a. 163 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Mystery. 164 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, but I feel for Tyson. I 165 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: know he wants, he wants to be out there. The 166 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: hamstring is frustrating again and again and again, and he's 167 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: had it a few times. So I just hope he 168 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: takes care of it and finds himself in a position 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: where he can get out there and stay out there 170 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: all right. 171 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: Fred Final thoughts here at home game, home opener, coming 172 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: off a loss, Brown's coming in. They didn't look good 173 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: last week. Gotta go get this game right. 174 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: This is it's you know, it's so early and we 175 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: don't want to use the word must win or the 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: words must win, but I would like to think from 177 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: a confidence standpoint and letting the guys know it's gonna. 178 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: Be okay for me. This is a must win. Looking 179 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: at the Browns and what they did. We can go 180 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: versus the Cowboys, who I don't I personally don't believe 181 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: that the Cowboys are a better team than the Jaguars, 182 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: you know, just overall makeup. But the Jaguars have to 183 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: prove that themselves. They got to go out there. They 184 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: got to start fast. You take a fourteen oh league, 185 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: you gotta find a way to maintain that. 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: You gotta make sure you're not giving up the big 187 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: plays against. 188 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: From an offensive standpoint, you got to make sure you're 189 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: protecting the passer even when it's crunch time. And that's 190 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: just the NFL. There are no freebies. But this is 191 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: a win, a game that I believe they have to 192 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: win just for morale, you know, in confidence booster in 193 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: the locker room. 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to get this one. 195 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: Especially with a couple one's coming up at Buffalo at Houston. Yeah, 196 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: a win in the back pocket would be nice. They 197 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: gotta go earn it though. Fred always great to talk 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: with you, and we'll do it again in the post game. 199 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: I'll be ready. Let's do it.