1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Warning, this episode contains spoilers for Rings of Power episode seven. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Of season two, so watch that before you listen to this. 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Jason Cantepsi and I'm Rosie Night 4 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: and welcome back. 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: To x ray Vision of the podcast where we dived. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Do you get into your favorite shows, movies, comics of 7 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: pop culture? 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: Coming to you from My Heart podcast. 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: We'll bring you to episodes Weekday, Tuesday, and Thursday in 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: today's episode. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 3: In the previously on, Lionsgate thinks they can. 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: Use AI to replace anime as a storyboard on it 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 4: sounds bad. 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 5: We're also going to be looking at the PS five 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 5: pro and the fifth Anniversary model, and there's a new 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 5: teaser trailer and I have to say actually incredibly well 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 5: designed post stuff for the Thunderbolts in the Airlock Warriors 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 5: come out to play. Duran's taking his axe to sour 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 5: on the stonehat or is he Calabrimble is just having 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 5: a bad day? 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: And Galadriel and Elron finally get to. 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: Who's will is mighty yep. 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 5: We will find out during our conversation about the penultimate 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 5: episode of the Rings of Palace. 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: But first, the previously on, first. 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: Up lions Gay says we can get the computer to 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: do that. 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's free. 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: So Lionsgate vice chair Michael Burns is quoted as talking 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: about AI and Lionsgate's new strategy with regards to AI 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: as pertaining to quote. 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Pre production and post production. 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: Processes, saying that AI can be a tool for quote augmenting, 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: enhancing and sublanting supplementing our current operations. Now AI is 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: has been utilized by lines Get al ready to. 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: Create the fake criticisms. 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 5: Marketing strategy really well for them, So this feels like 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 5: a silly choice. But I will say they have just 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 5: had very high profile flops with Borderlands incredibly expensive, The 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 5: Crow less expensive, but still a flop, and I don't 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: know if it's going to get better for them, So 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm this is just them trying to be cheap basically. 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 5: And you know, Read Southern, a concept artist on the 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 5: original Hunger Games movies, did a tweet and he was like, 45 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 5: this is the first step in trying to replace artists 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: and filmmakers, And that's definitely true because this article kind 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: of posits like they would want it to replace storyboard artists, 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: which I think is just like some of the silliest 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 5: things of all time, and yeah, this is the interesting 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 5: thing is what they actually want to do is they 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: say that they're going to They've made a deal with 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: this place, run Away Runway, which is already in a 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 5: lot of legal shenanigans. It doesn't seem like a great 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 5: business deal. But they're gonna allow Runway to basically train 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: AI on all their previous movies. But legally, I don't 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: know if that's gonna happen. UTA CEO Jeremy Zimmer said 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 5: at a conference like, if I'm an artist and I've 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: made a lions Gate movie, now suddenly that Lionsgate movie 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 5: is gonna be used to help build an LM for 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: an AI company, am I gonna be compensated? Park had 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: an article in their newsletter that was basically like, who's 62 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 5: gonna sue lions Gate first? Because if you think about 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: your contract as a filmmaker, did not give them it 64 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 5: was not work for hire. 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: They do not own it completely exactly. 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: That is exactly. 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: It would be very. 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: Hard to argue. 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: Unlike me, like when I sign my Godzilla contract right 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 5: that basically says they can do whatever they want with it. 71 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: But when you make a movie that you have created 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: or you've come up with an idea for or you want. 73 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: It does not say that that does. 74 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Not a movie, a movie that entered production year twenty 75 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: years years ago was even possible or thought. 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 5: It's very hard to ask that you're going to be 77 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 5: able to say, oh, well, your contract included this. 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 6: No. 79 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: So I think it's going to be very interesting to 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: see how much people push back. And I do think 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 5: that it's going to be important for people to push back, 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 5: for high profile people to sue them, because we need 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 5: to set a precedent or else it will become, you 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 5: know something, well, another one of those things people just 85 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 5: ignore that could end up having like a bad effect. 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 5: Like they're saying they want to get rid of previous. 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: They want to use AI for storyboarding. No, that's like 88 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: hundreds of hundreds of jobs. It's bad news, bad time. 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: And also that's the start word is it? 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 6: Word? 91 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: Of course? This is like they go to the whole thing. 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: Next up, Sony's PS five Pro, the thirtieth anniversary model 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: has been announced. It's uh, is not so souped up from. 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 95 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: It's really an incremental improvement. It's slimmer. If you remember 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: the PS four to PS four pro much like that, 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: it's slimmer, it's easier to place on your mantlepiece or 98 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: what have you. There's some upgrades to the controller and 99 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: pre orders start September twenty sixth. 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: Dude, I would say it's some funny videos because. 101 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: They were like, you know, tell me that it's not 102 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: worth the money, and they put the videos together and 103 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: everyone was like, I can't tell the difference. Guys like, 104 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 5: I can't tell which one is new, Like, it's not 105 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 5: it's not a big it's it's not a thing. 106 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Next up, some new marketing stuff for the Thunderbolts. We 107 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: have a new teaser trailer and a new and you 108 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: mentioned it up top excellent uh poster image marketing image 109 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: of all the Thunderbolts trying to kill each other. It's 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit of a rip. I think 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: shameless definitely shamelessly shamelessly did it first. But I love 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: this setup of all of them seeming like they're in 113 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: a mosh pit wrestling towards something. It's wonderful. I'm this 114 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: movie does not come out till Spring five. That said, 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited and this feels like the first movie to 116 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: drop in the new down shifting MCU strategy of going 117 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: back to the original kind of release cadence of two 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: or maybe three big movie releases per season. 119 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 5: There is definitely some big questions. Hey, I still need 120 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 5: to know what the asterix is. Are they going to 121 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: change the name to doc Avengers? Is it gonna have 122 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: like a funny in Universe Wild because this is very 123 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: different from Thunderbolts, who are presented as a Harrow team 124 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: and then at the end you len that the actually 125 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 5: are villains. 126 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: But like, who's the baddie? 127 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: Is it Valentina Alegra d'fontein, Like, is she the baddie? 128 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 4: Has she bought Avengers Tower? 129 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: Is it? 130 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: You know a lot of people on the internet talking 131 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 5: about Lewis Pullman's character Bob, because everyone knows when there's 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 5: a funny, one named character in these kind of things, 133 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 5: they always become the mimable character. Very interested to see this, 134 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: I have to say, like I'm not I was not 135 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 5: like hugely invested in this. I do think the poster 136 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: is great and also it is a lot of the 137 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 5: people behind Beef. Eric Pearson, Lee Sung Jin and Joanna 138 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: Carlo wrote this, and Jake Sharter is directing it, so 139 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: I'm interested to see where it goes. 140 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, the. 141 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 5: Poster was really the thing that sold me. I think 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: it's a very very clever poster. 143 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're stepping into the air lock and 144 00:07:47,520 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: talking Rings of Power two seven. Okay, Rings of Power 145 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Season two, episode seven. It's a lovely day. 146 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: In everything's going perfect, nothing's going. 147 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: It's a lovely day. 148 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Lovely day, love, lovely day. Calibrimbor is like God, it 149 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: is a lovely day, and he's. 150 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: Out on God. 151 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: They played that money his veranda with a cup of 152 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: nest cafe and he's sipping it in the in the 153 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: temperate reggaeon air. Looking at the shafts of sunlight coming 154 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: down through is wonderful. Calabrimborg goes back into his workshop 155 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: where and he gazes upon the man rings and they're 156 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: pressed and they're twisted into shape, and it's looking. 157 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: Like we're almost there. 158 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: It's almost a nine man rings and they're almost ready. 159 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: Brimbaugh looks at Fayanor's hammer. He looks at it and 160 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: he notices, oh, it's interesting. One of the sapphires is 161 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: missing the blue jewels, and it's been replaced by a 162 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: red one. 163 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 5: Uh oh hah, that doesn't seem that's not the universal 164 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: pop culture signed for something. 165 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: Really, He looks down for the missing stone and when 166 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: he he sees a mouse skittering around down there in 167 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: a very particular way. And then when he straightens up, 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: he catches a look of himself in a piece of 169 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: reflective glass, and he realized he looks like shit. 170 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: Hal he looks bad. 171 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: He looks like he's awake for days, weeks, months. 172 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 5: He looks like his power is being drained by a 173 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: cold av that is coming back to power. 174 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: So I mean it's appropriate. 175 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: He is shocked, and in that moment, Anatar comes in 176 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: and just begins fully gas lighting Keller brinboorbo oh, no oh, 177 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: you been working so hard. 178 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: It's fine, it's fine, don't you just Also, I just 179 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: I want to make an apology to Anatar and to 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: our listeners because last week we did not mention that 181 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: Anatar has his hair in a fancy it's at the back, 182 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: and I feel like it's so spectacular, so glamorous. I 183 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: feel like we should have called attention to it before. 184 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: So apologies to Anatar. And yeah, he's like, what are 185 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 5: you talking about? This hammer is fine, is nothing different 186 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 5: about the hammer, like. 187 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: He just he puts this look of concern in his eyes, 188 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: his warm eyes, and you've just been working so hard 189 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,479 Speaker 1: and you've been so immersed. 190 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm worried about like you're too immersed in your one says. 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's all because of you. 192 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: It's because of you that I've been able to have 193 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: this clarity and this focus, and I've been in the 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: groove with these man rings. And he says they're almost done. 195 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: Just a couple of polishes and finishing touches and engraving 196 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: here in a great there, and they will be done. 197 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Anatar is like great news. He goes outside and it's 198 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: a it's a fucking mess out there. There's dead elves 199 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: in the streets. 200 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. 201 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: Calibrimbo is looking out on like a Stowdy Valley esque 202 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 5: like cozy game, but it's really like cool if Judy 203 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 5: full of bad times. 204 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 4: Everybody's dead like adaur. 205 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 5: Is that Adams Olks are attacking like bold as that 206 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: quits bad. 207 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 4: It's a bad, bad bad. 208 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: Anatar then tells the citizens that I don't know Caliber 209 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: bars out of it. 210 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: He's ordered us not to attack. 211 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: Fad choice. 212 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: He's lost his mind. 213 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Therefore, I, Anatar, will of course take up the mantle 214 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: of leadership for reggae, and I will take control of 215 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: the Elvish for forces of a Reggaean Merdonia, Wow, South, 216 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: beautiful Merdonia takes his hand and says, I, I'm Herdonia, 217 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: will stand at your side. 218 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 4: I krumba guy like cleans. Why is this? 219 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: I he the first time he tried to chat you up, 220 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 5: he told you you looked like his ex. So like, 221 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 5: that's already a red flag, Like this is not a 222 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: good guy to be standing by the side. 223 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the the Orcish artillery stops. There's 224 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: a moment of quiet. They're like, what what does that mean? 225 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: It means the Orcs are pushing their siege towers and 226 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: ladders forward and they're getting ready to storm the walls 227 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Adar's trebischets. They start angling towards the mountain. The Elvish 228 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: defenders of a region are like, wait a second, it 229 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: looks like they're pushing the their siege towers on the 230 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: river side of the wall. 231 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: Why would they how they can't come across the river. 232 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: And then it becomes clear Adar fires his trebischetes at 233 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: the mountain. The mountain comes down quite easily. I have 234 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, surprisingly easily. 235 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 5: Maybe it's been like weakened by Sauron's rule or something. 236 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 5: I definitely was feeling like it was not a stable mountain. 237 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Mountain falls down into the river, damns the river, and 238 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: very soon, very soon, the river will be crossable. Just 239 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: as this is happening, r and Deer arrives at the battle. 240 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: Oh there he is the hun He's back. 241 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,359 Speaker 1: Kelibrin bor up in his workshop is a little suspicious. 242 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: Now he becomes aware of the mouse which is moving 243 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: in a very in the same pattern that he has 244 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: noticed previously, and so he begins like marking the candles 245 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: to see how much time has passed. We go to Kazudoum. 246 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: King durn is delighted about He's like, this is fucking 247 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: fad loves these developments because he knows the price of 248 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: mythrill is gonna go up. 249 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: Oh this man, so what has happened to me? 250 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: The only thing that is standing in the way of 251 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: his juice the market for mythrill plan is his fucking 252 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: son and his fucking wife Lisa, who are down there 253 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: stopping the mined operations. 254 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: Doing some direct action act like. 255 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: So he says, listen, my dwarfing guards go down there 256 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 1: and buy any means necessary get those protesters out of 257 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: there instead. 258 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: Huh. 259 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: Duran's men switch sides. I love it. 260 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: Oh shit, this was so good. 261 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: This is so powerful and also correct, like I'm glad 262 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 5: they could just tell they could just feel the vibes 263 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 5: that Durham for I'm Lisa were right. 264 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: Lives are very bad. 265 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: They tell Prince Duran that also there's an elf here 266 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: to see you, and it's Elron there. 267 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 5: I can't believe we had to wait this long nough 268 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: to see them reunited. 269 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: The boys are back in down back in case of 270 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: doom and they have a warmer union and they catch up, 271 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: and it's actually very funny the way they talk about it, 272 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: because they're. 273 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: Like, well, what's going on with you? 274 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: And Duran's like, well, I'm preparing to oust my father 275 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: from and you. 276 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 7: Yeah. 277 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: Elrod is like al Reggaeon is under siege and all 278 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: the citizens are going to be slaughtered unless unless Duran. 279 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: You come to our aid with your dwarves. We need you. 280 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: You must come. 281 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: I know these two are like so silly together, like 282 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: even when they're talking about the most sensible things, you 283 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: expect them to just start having like a little axe competition, 284 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: like they've got. 285 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: Such a silly energy. 286 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: But yes, Duran, we do need your help because things 287 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 5: are not going well. 288 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: In a reggaeon, the orcs around a reggaeon now storm 289 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: across the dry river bed and they begin to invest 290 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: the walls. The Elvish defense is like standing right now, 291 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: standing strong, but it is cracking because they are just 292 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: incredibly outnumbered. Mardonia is up there and she's like, look 293 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: there the orc battering ram, which is apparently called a ravager. 294 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: Focus fire on that. Meanwhile, Kelibrinbor is beginning to really 295 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: suspect that something is very very much amiss. 296 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: He sees the mouse there. 297 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: It is because of this and other things, the fire 298 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: and the candle. He realizes he realizes he's in. 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: Like a timeloop. He's trapped in a like okay, you 300 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: got me. I cast a spell. 301 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,239 Speaker 5: He's like, he's like, look, I did do a little groundhog, 302 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 5: just like just a little groundhook day. 303 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: You know, just I was trying to help you. 304 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: You were like you were stressed and you needed to focus, 305 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: and I brought you a little piece? 306 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Did I not bring you a little piece. 307 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: So you could relax? He did bring him some peace, 308 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: you know, I know how. 309 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: And then he acts like very very hurt that Kelibrinbore 310 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: is mad about. He's like, how I all I wanted 311 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: to do was help you. And keller Brinboor says, you 312 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: know what, no emissary of the Valor would do something 313 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: like this. 314 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: Who are you? Really? 315 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: Emmorzy of the Valor would ever puts me in a 316 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: groundhook based at timeloop? 317 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: Who are you? 318 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: And he throws a not fan ords hammer, but a 319 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: hammer atmaker different hammer, and it goes through the window 320 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: of the workshop and the spell is broken because out 321 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: there is obviously like scenes of carnage and war and 322 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: dead elves and blood running in the streets, and Calibrinboor 323 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: breaks down in tears. He is so upset as he 324 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: should be, and he things could not get anyway they 325 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: could this is the West moment. 326 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: They could not get any worse. 327 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: Until he staggers into his mock desk and he knocks 328 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: over that that bag of mythrill that we all wondered 329 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: about after last episode, and it's not like how did 330 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you get it's not Philip Mythril. It's full of Saurn's blood. 331 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: Not the black good blood. 332 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 5: This is also a huge moment because, like academically and 333 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: like fan conversation wise, people have always wondered like did 334 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: Saram put his blood in the one ring? 335 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: Like did Saram put his blood in the rings? 336 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: And there's a big contentious conversation like was that something 337 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 5: that he did? But we can see here that yes 338 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: he absolutely did, And what on earth were you think? 339 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: Not like a drop? 340 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Like putting a lot of blood in every single ring 341 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: and there's still a lot left over. 342 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 343 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: So uh keller. 344 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: Brimboo now knows who he's dealing with. 345 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: So he rushes out and the city is so fucked 346 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: it is fun. It's the Orcs are on the walls 347 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: now they're killing elves on top of the walls. 348 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: He goes to see Rdnia. This is crazy. What happens next? 349 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 4: My guy is crazy? 350 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: So he's Kelibrimbore. 351 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: He is trying to like explain everything that's been going 352 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: on that he's learned very recently, as he's been trapped 353 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: in this time for good knows how long. He's trying 354 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: to tell him sarn and this, and Anatar he's not 355 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: what he seems. And I've been enthralled by Anatar all 356 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: of the i haven't been derelict in my duties. 357 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: He's kept be in. 358 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: A spell and it's sorrow. He he's here and he's acting, 359 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, well, Anatar is right. This guy has 360 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: lost it. 361 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: He's lost fist. He's just gone. 362 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: So the Orcs meanwhile, he's on the wall. They're on 363 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: the wall, Kelibrinbor and Berdania and the rest of the elves, 364 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: and below them, the Orcs are just like hammering on 365 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: this river side of the wall, which is the thinnest, 366 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: and Kelibridbor sees how tenuous the wall is, you know, 367 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: his great architectural craftsman mind, and he says, we must 368 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: you just stabilize this part of the wall right now, no, 369 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: no now. And then Anatar walks up and he's like, 370 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: sees that man, that's sore On. 371 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: That's not even Anataur, that's that's saur On. 372 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, should have lead with that. I just said, 373 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: don't believe don't believe me. 374 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: Look at his blood. 375 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: His blood is black, It's thick and black and disgusting 376 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: and gross, and he gave me a bag of it. 377 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: And then it's just like, what you mean this? And 378 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: he raises his hand where there's a little cut and 379 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: it's red blood. 380 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: Oh. 381 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 5: He's like, I don't have a cool venom style symbia 382 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 5: living inside. 383 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: I mean just normal red blood. 384 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: You're crazy, And Somerdonia is like, okay, kel let's get 385 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: you away from me. 386 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: She goes time for bed. 387 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: He goes to lead him away, and and and Kelli 388 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: Brinboor like goes to like shrug off her her grip, 389 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: but then Saurron does like a little wiggle of his. 390 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 4: No salt bab and Caesar. 391 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: Uses his magic to throw Murdania off the wall, making 392 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: it look like Kelli Brimbor has has hurled his former 393 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: assistant off the wall. She she falls down, lands at 394 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: the feet of an Orc, rolls over on her back, 395 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: and the last thing she sees is the orcs axe 396 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: cleaning her skull. Intwo oh my. 397 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 5: God, Madania, I did not see this coming for you. 398 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Also, like you also got duped by Anata. 399 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 4: That's just what happens. 400 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: That's the power he has been He's duped. He's been 401 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: up the best, so don't feel bad about Sarn then 402 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: goes to Kelbernborne. 403 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: He says, listen, you want this to stop. Finish the 404 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 2: fucking rings. I'll stop it. 405 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: He's like, do you understand what I want? 406 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: It's just the rings, Brad, Like just the rings, Like 407 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 5: continue on the. 408 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: Rings which are full of my blood. 409 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: Once I have them, I will create a middle earth 410 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: that is that is just a world of lasting peace. 411 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 4: That's all that's that you want? 412 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: Peace with you. 413 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 5: We were talking about that last week, about like what 414 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: does he want? 415 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 4: And this is always his excuse. 416 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: He wants this perfect, lost in piece, this efficient world. 417 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: But what is the cost of that piece? 418 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: It reminds me of a possibly apocryphal historical quote by 419 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: a chieftain of one of the Celtic tribes during during 420 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Caesar's invasion of Gaul now called France. Caesar invaded and 421 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: they're just killing all the Gauls. You know, they're like 422 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: a masker, like modern estimates put it. It like a genocide 423 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: in the millions. 424 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: Anyway, So this. 425 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Chief later says, they created a wilderness and they call 426 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: it peace. That's basically what Saurn wants to do. 427 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, he wants to kill everyone, because then if it's 428 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: if there's no humans this peace. 429 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: You know, trumpets sound in the air, Elvis trumpets. It's 430 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 1: al Rond and can Gill and the Elvis reinforcements. They 431 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: are here, they charge, but when they get close to 432 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: the lines of orcs, ad are like a fucking magician pulls. 433 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: The way David feel energy, you're thinking, waits until they're 434 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 5: like ten feet away, and then he pulls a sheet 435 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 5: off a cage. 436 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: And look who it is. 437 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: It's Galadril and he presses a blade to her neck. 438 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: And Eleron and the Els are like, no, we can't 439 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: risk Gladiol. 440 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: We have to talk. 441 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: So they have a summit meeting in a dars in 442 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: a Dar's little camp. A Dar is like, let me 443 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: see the ring. Let me see Najia Gladial's ring. And 444 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: Elron is like I'm wise. They're like, hey, I'm wiser 445 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: than you think, because I would not bring it to 446 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: an Orchish camp. 447 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: You idiot, Yeah, you mug Yeah. 448 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: So a Dhara says, listen, here's the deal. 449 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: I'll take care of you sore on problem, no problem, 450 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: but you give me the ring so I can do it, 451 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: and then I'll. 452 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: Take it off your hands. 453 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I'll deal with's sore on and that's it, and anyway 454 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: s on a Reggulon's done, Like look at it, it's 455 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: not done, Finito, it's finished. His dark arts have been 456 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: at work here. It's a wreck every like Kella Brimbor, 457 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: who knows what's going on with him? 458 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: I just saw him throw his own assistant off the walls, 459 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: like this ship is a mess. 460 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 4: Crazy. 461 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: You can save Gladriel, give me the ring or she dies. 462 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Uh and Adar also, in order to juice the juice 463 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: the conversation says, also I knew your mom. 464 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: She was really hot. 465 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 4: She was jos smoking smoke it. 466 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: She was wow calm, which is a wild statement. 467 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: How fine, Just like I like the way he was, 468 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 5: like I would have fucked your That was he really? 469 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: That was the subtext, Like I. 470 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 5: Feel like King Gil has so many rings. He could 471 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: have just given him any ring, Like he could have 472 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 5: just been like. 473 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a magical ring, like how would danna? 474 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then so Adar says Elrond is like no, 475 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the ring thing. And then so Adar said, well, 476 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: you can't beat my army, and we're gonna kill you 477 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: and then Eleron says, well, to kill us, you're gonna 478 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: have to like march over the black blood of your soldiers, 479 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: so it's a no, They're gonna fight it o. Elrond 480 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: then says goodbye to Galadriel, and she's like. 481 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: Just when you fucking guy, and then they kiss passionately. 482 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: And passionate little smooch. I mean, we were waiting for 483 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: this to happen. 484 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: You know. 485 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 5: The tension between the two of them is very high. 486 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, outrageous. I love this. Also, I'm like, Adash, surely you. 487 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 5: Would have just killed Galadriya at this point, but maybe 488 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 5: he thinks he can still leverage out for the ring. 489 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 5: But yes, they got the smooch. Even though I'm an 490 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 5: hour and during shipper, I do also accept this kiss. 491 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 5: It's nice to see a kiss. 492 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: Elrond in the during the kiss slips her like a 493 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: little walk the orcs. 494 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: Which I think is really like that would be if 495 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 5: you talk to them about it, they'd be like, oh, 496 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 5: the kiss was fake. 497 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: It was just for thet. 498 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: Really they I mean, they put a little too much 499 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: into it for to be all. 500 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: The way through. 501 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it was it was Yeah, Yeah, they. 502 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: Were getting their money's worth. 503 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Uh So the elves have they believe in a hole 504 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: despite the fact that they're out now, because Ellen's like, 505 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: my dwarves are coming. My guy Duran is gonna be here, 506 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: and he sends, and so Elron tells one of his captains, 507 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: He's like, go out to the and wait for them, 508 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: and when they arrive, guide them directly to the flank 509 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: of the orchest army where they could do the most damage. 510 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: And while that's happening, me and the rest of the 511 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: elves and King Gil, we will buy you all the 512 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: time that you need to get the dwarves there. Prince 513 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: Duran then addresses in Kozduum, addresses his warriors and he 514 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: gets them pumped up to fight the Orcs, and he 515 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: says basically like, hey guys, after this, the Elves are 516 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna owe us big time, and oh, we're. 517 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: Just gonna be able to get whatever we wait. Bro, 518 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: like big time. You want to go to the Tree 519 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: of Life. 520 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: We can go have it. 521 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: Do whatever you want, We'll have it. 522 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: We will have it over on them. And he also says, 523 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: what happened to my dad the king, that's Saren's fault. 524 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: We can take our revenge now and everybody is pumped up. 525 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: So how long is the march to a regular. 526 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: I know, I'm like, it's it. I don't know. I 527 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: feel like I feel like if. 528 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 5: It's not that far, I guess it's just like a 529 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 5: few hours or something like maybe like half a day. 530 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 5: But also I feel like this is not making you know, 531 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 5: it's I know Lindon is like a little bit further. 532 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 5: But I feel like this is making Ellen look like 533 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 5: a bad friend because if the Dwarves can just like 534 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: show up, he could have like gone when during his 535 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 5: kids were born, Like I feel. 536 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: Like you close for him, my guy, It's ridiculous. 537 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So while all this is going and caliber war 538 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: is up in his shattered workshop like making the rings 539 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: under dress, but also like don't do it? 540 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: Why don't do it? Don't do it? Why are you? 541 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 5: Why are you trusting this man? Like why he told 542 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 5: he has tricked you so many times? 543 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 8: Bro? 544 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 5: Also like I just want to say, you know, sometimes 545 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: when someone is right, they are right and you have 546 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 5: to give them credit for it. Like during the fourth 547 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: he knew from day dot that Anata was a bad man. 548 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 5: He was like, who is this guy? Don't care about it? 549 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 5: And now he's just like that's Sourn. He's like I knew. 550 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: I just feel like we should give him some credit, 551 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: like he is clearly able to see through some nonsense. 552 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 5: And really, right now, Calibrinba needs to get Duran on 553 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 5: the horn on the you know, Elvish phone and be like, uh, 554 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 5: don't do it, man, don't do it, because like you 555 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 5: just don't need to make these rings, especially with Sourn's 556 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 5: blood in them. 557 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on. 558 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: So Elrond and Gil managed to hold off the Orcs 559 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: for the night. During that fight, and Orc kills Elron's horse, 560 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: and Elron kills the Orc and he puts his body 561 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: in a trebishet and launches it at the wall. 562 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: Outrageous, outrageous. 563 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: I feel like at this point, Elron's like, Aaron's like, 564 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 5: fuck ya, you call yourself father, like. 565 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: I'm sending these children. BET's right. Good. 566 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: And so after this, you know, nightfall comes and everybody 567 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: basically is like, let's take a break, the Orcs and 568 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: the Elves. 569 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: Everybody hits a ring. 570 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: The Orcs are complaining to a Dar about the casualties, 571 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: like we're losing a lot guys out here, Like you said, 572 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: you love. 573 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 5: I feel like this is a nice like throwback to 574 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 5: the famous like the Union lead. Yea, He's like, I 575 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 5: don't know, work in my guys too many hours, like 576 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: when he's Desermon and I think this is like a 577 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: nice turback where the guy's like. 578 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: Uh, a few of us dying here, Like I don't. 579 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 5: I don't think it's turning out the way we expect it, 580 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 5: Like thought you were a that I. 581 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: Think like that. How's that going? 582 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: Is? 583 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: Like I do love you, but like all of you 584 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: dying so that we can bring down that wall is 585 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: better than you living in slavery to saar On right? 586 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: Am I right? Or is kind of like I. 587 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: Don't know, could you just like sound to me? Also, 588 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: I'm like a dog. Couldn't you just like go and 589 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: find anatar and kill Yeah? 590 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 5: Like I feel like you don't need to see a 591 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 5: region Like I feel like that is unnecessary. 592 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: Part Also, did you see what el Ron did? What 593 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: if we start launching guys over the wall in the. 594 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: Trip sha the game? Why don't we do that? Imagine? 595 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, Adar finds that Gladriel has escaped, and he says 596 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: she can't have got for far search the whole camp. 597 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: She is walking around in orc disguise. 598 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: Incredible, it's giving Nicole kitmen. 599 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 5: And she turns up at the end and she's like 600 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 5: dressed as a scary secret cha, Like, I love this. 601 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: She comes across like massive funeral pyres where the Orcs 602 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: are burning, they're dead, and and it's clear that they 603 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: are not pretty unhappy with the casualties they're taking. She 604 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: sees a Dar pay his respects to the dead, and 605 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: she sees a Dar weep even. 606 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 5: Oh, this little hypocrite. I'm like, I'm sorry, my god, 607 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 5: I don't believe this. I don't believe this fa the. 608 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: Shit's right going on anymore. 609 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: Just then, the Orcs discover that hey, that's not an Orc, 610 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: that's an Elf, and Arrundier comes to the rescue, killing guards. 611 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: She tells arnder that, like, perfect, I know a secret 612 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: way into the city. We can sneak and we can help. 613 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: Larder is like, I'm not going in the city. I'm 614 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: looking for a Dar because I want revenge for my 615 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: girlfriend who got killed, whose son started all this. 616 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 5: Yes, but yeah, by the way, like uh, what's kind 617 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: of like under my watchful eye. 618 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: But you know, in Couse of Doom, Duran and the 619 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: boys are finally heading out. When a dwarf felt. 620 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 5: Like the long down, I feel like they could I 621 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 5: feel like they could have gone, only felt very much. 622 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: Early because I felt exactly the same way. 623 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: What were you guys? We're just getting just hyping each other. 624 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: We're gonna beat him, We're gonna beat Salon. They're gonna 625 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: get the rigs, like, like, what were you doing? 626 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: So a dwarf, the dwarf who was like the leader 627 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: of the dwarfs that switch sides, comes screaming up and 628 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: he's covered in blood and he says, your dad, King Duran, 629 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: just killed several dwarves and he's heading now to the 630 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: mines by himself to dig and release the bow rog. 631 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: You have to, Prince, what will we do? 632 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: It's either the elves or Kose of doom. 633 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: We go to a reggaeon Sron tells Kelibrimble, who looks 634 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: worse than even he looked at the beginning of the 635 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: other like he looks like total total ship. 636 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 5: Charles Edwards looks like he's been put through a hedge backwards, 637 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 5: like it's going badly for him, Like is not going 638 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 5: well for Calibrimble, And you know what, we love him, 639 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 5: but he did kind of do the dance well. 640 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: Sarn continues to pump up and gas like Calor. Remember, 641 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: he says, listen, when we're when I'm done, generations will 642 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: praise our work. 643 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 7: Here. 644 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: They will be like, wow, they did they did it. 645 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: They will peace to Middle Earth. 646 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 5: You couldn't even believe it, Like it's gonna be so good. 647 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: Saarn then talks about being tortured by Morgoth and he says, actually, 648 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: I loved it because it showed that I had that 649 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: dog in me. 650 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: Unlike Morgoth. 651 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: He's like I had, I had that hell in May. 652 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: I was ready. Margoth he was not about He couldn't 653 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 4: do it. He was not about it. I was about it, 654 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 4: And here I am. Yeah still, he. 655 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: Answerry, and then he says, you think you know torture 656 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: keler Brinbore, You what you were going through now is 657 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: happening because you wanted it? 658 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: Oh that's right, you wanted gaslight in him. 659 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 660 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: Kelibrinbore then takes the man and decides. Finally, he decides, 661 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: like I can't. He takes the man rings and he 662 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: drops them in the fire. When Surron is not looking outside, 663 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: the battle is raging. The elves are now fighting the 664 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: orcs at the base of the wall. They're right at 665 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: the wall. 666 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 5: What is this? 667 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: I feel like this wool obsession that they all have. 668 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 4: I feel like there's other ways around the wall. 669 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 5: I feel like this is a focus for an unnecessary reason. 670 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 5: I feel like guys like get over the wall. 671 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: Kelibrinbore looks at the rings that he put in the 672 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: fire and he scoops him out and they didn't melt. 673 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: Uh oh, he puts them in a bag. 674 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: He grabs a hammer and tries to free himself from 675 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: his cuffs. He can't get out of his cuffs, so 676 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: he cuts off his thumb. He gets out of his Yes, for. 677 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: You know what, bro. I like the mentality. 678 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 5: I like the idea. But you could have just broken 679 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 5: your thumb or like popped out dislocated. It would have 680 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 5: been painful. Feel like didn't need to chop it off. 681 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 5: Very straw, Peter of you, very over the top. 682 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: I love that Caliberdborg goes outside. The city is a ruin. 683 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 2: Now he falls. 684 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: It's really like the torture. 685 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 5: Everything is getting worse for him, Like, not only did 686 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 5: he chop off his own thumb, but then he goes 687 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 5: outside and he's like, oh, I haven't just big gas lit, 688 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: but now my whole town is like a. 689 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: Mess, like I'm the lord of this town, like I Corramba. 690 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: He gets not silly by falling off the stairs. The 691 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: ranking fire el see him. They're like, oh, he's he's 692 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: gone crazy, just like and just doing some crazy like 693 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: said glad you arrives just in time for them to 694 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: like stop them from like seizing Calibrinbor. And he tells 695 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: her about the nine rings and he says it's all 696 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: my fault. And he said he knew along it was Sourron, 697 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: but he thought he could control it. Whoa crazy admission 698 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: from calibrin boor dude, just one, don't tell him, Yeah, 699 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: that's inside. 700 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 5: Keep that one to yourself, like you do not have 701 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 5: the dog in you do not do that. 702 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: It's not good. That's insane, that's crazy. 703 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 5: RP Tadaria Madonia, she is dog like you. 704 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 4: We just learned her name. 705 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 5: We just knew it was Souad, Like, why are you 706 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 5: talking about this is crazy? 707 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 4: Anata didn't even need to be putting in the effort. 708 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 5: To put you in a spell because you were like, 709 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 5: I'm cool with you being Imagine if they'd both just 710 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 5: like been honest and he'd been like, bro, I'm sour on, 711 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 5: and so Calibrimble have been like, you know what, maybe 712 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 5: we can compromise, make some rings together, right, make something great. 713 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: None of this maybe would have happened, Like you guys 714 00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 4: really sad. 715 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: It's really and you know what, I think. 716 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 5: The craziest thing is like it, I just I just 717 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 5: couldn't believe. 718 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: I could not believe it. I was so shy. 719 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 4: Is it true? 720 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 5: Is he trying to cover up I think the fact 721 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 5: he got deceived because he's Is this his ego coming 722 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 5: through or is he being honest? 723 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: For one, I think that he. 724 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: On some level did always suspect that it was too 725 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: good to be true. And maybe he didn't know exactly 726 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: that it was sore On, but it was obviously too 727 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: good to be true, and he didn't pursue his curiosity 728 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: at all. 729 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 2: He decided to. 730 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 4: Just ignoring all the records. 731 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: He decided to just not investigate how it could be 732 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: this good. And therefore I do agree with him that 733 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: like it. 734 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: He is devastatingly at fault for this. Kellibrin Moore says. 735 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: To Gladriel, this is my city. I will face sore 736 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: On alone. No, you won't do you had You've been 737 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: facing him alone week after a week and you can't 738 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: handle him, so stop it. He gives you, literally cat, 739 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: he gives her the bagger rings. Galadriel says, p s, 740 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: I am sorry for bringing him here as Halbrand to 741 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: the city. 742 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: That is that's me, that's on me. 743 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 5: These two actually the biggest fuck ups and the biggest ups, 744 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 5: the two of them, like just like. 745 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: Print, like the three Musketeers are fucking up. 746 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 4: You can literally literally. 747 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: So then Calibrimbore a flash of the old brilliance. He says, wait, 748 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: we can. We have to fight sore On the dark Lord, 749 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: not with might, but with light. Light makes right Elron. 750 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: Then uh, his forces are fighting the Orcs and he's 751 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: trying to get one of his archers to like snipe 752 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: sare On from the from the wall, like if you 753 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: see him walking around, you hit him. But then she's 754 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: like horrific wounded and she's still trying to shoot her arrow. 755 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: But then a bucket of pitch explodes and the Orc 756 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: siege ensues. 757 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 2: L Rond and the Elves are now in a desperate straight. 758 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: Adar orders the hill troll in to finally get that 759 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: wall down. 760 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: It's weaken his old pile of the hill Troll. 761 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like send him in first. 762 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 5: I feel like he could have like kicked the wall, 763 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 5: felt like you could have stepped over there. 764 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: The Orcs, who are now openly grumbling all the time, 765 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: are like, well, hold on, he's gonna kill a lot 766 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: of our guys. And Andar is like, again, better than slavery, 767 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: He saar, on is it is it. 768 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: Like that these guys? 769 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 5: I feel like that's nine thing, like we could escape slavery, 770 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 5: maybe because we can't escape once. 771 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: That's right, Aroandia. 772 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I was watching this from nearby and sees the 773 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: hill Troll start to emerge. Anatar is tearing the workshop 774 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: apart looking for the rings. Kelen Brimble comes in with 775 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: the Elvish guards. He says, the rings, they're far away 776 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: from you, Sar, and you're not gonna see him again. 777 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: And he says, guards take that man prisoner, but come on. 778 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: Then something happens to Sorrow. I guess he uses his 779 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: magic to get the elf guards to start killing each other. 780 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: Of course he does, Sarro, and then kills Creepy another 781 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: guy and orders killed Binboard hand over the rings. The 782 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: hill troll is there, killing orcs, killing elves. Arondier's firing 783 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: arrows at it. It smacks l rond like across the 784 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: fucking dry river. 785 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: Beds, like when the end. Like it's like when Holly 786 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: Puppy and yeah, he got like thrown away by the tornado. 787 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 4: Like they're gone. 788 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: It's like when Estrad got fucking punched by the ends. 789 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: So but then their their ravager mechanism punches that the 790 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: troll and the guts and briefly stuns. The troll gets 791 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: up and then starts to begin to use the ravager 792 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: like as a ram to ram through that wall. King 793 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: Gil gets in the mix. He gets a couple of 794 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: shots in on the troll. Arondier nails the troll hand 795 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: to the ground, and then Elron and Gil finish it off. 796 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: El Ron then tells King Gil, high King, get out 797 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: of here. We're all gonna die to defend this wall. 798 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: You shouldn't be here. But then more horns, more drums. 799 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: And then Elron is like, well, I tell you, guys, 800 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: this is it. The dwarves is why the doors are coming. 801 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: They look, they look to the east. They look and 802 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: over there on the hill the sun dappled hill is 803 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: the as the dawn sun is breaking through the clouds. 804 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: It's one fucking horse, one, just one, just one, and 805 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: it's the It's the guy that Elron sent to go 806 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: meet the dwarves. He's like covered in arrows and he's 807 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: fucking dying. He dies in Elron's arms, saying with his. 808 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: Last breath, Durren is not coming. 809 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 5: Sorry, bruh, Like you didn't even You're gonna just send 810 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 5: like raven or an envelope and not died. 811 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, I also. 812 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: Think, like you know what the real truth is, I 813 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 5: think that on a deeper level, for what we know 814 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 5: of their friendship, like this was actually the right choice 815 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 5: for Duran. To me, it was like Eron has not 816 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: been like a strong friend, like Land betrayed him about 817 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 5: the myth rule. 818 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 4: Elnd was never their first kids. 819 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 5: Aaron's enough, so he's like, well, it's only been like 820 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks since I saw you in Durance, 821 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 5: Like it's been a hundred years, bro Like in this moment, 822 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 5: I do think Duran made the right choice, even though 823 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 5: I too would have loved to have seen all the 824 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 5: dwarfs coming over the hill like that would have been 825 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 5: a hopeful moment for them, but. 826 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 4: The reality is, Ernd, you did deserve this. 827 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I completely agree with you. I think that Duran, 828 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: it's obviously a hard choice. It's not a choice anybody wants. Yeah, 829 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: but Duran would never be able to go back to Kazudu, 830 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: not only because it was destroyed. But let's say that 831 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: the dwarves managed to fight off. Yeah, they would never 832 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: take him back after this. 833 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 5: Also, like in the scheme Grand scheme of bad stuff, right, 834 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 5: the orcs sieging Eregion is very bad. But also your dad, 835 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 5: who is crazy and has just killed some of your friends, 836 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 5: your people purposefully. 837 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 4: Mining to get the bow rug and release it, that 838 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 4: is equally as bad. So I feel like he's an 839 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 4: impossible decision. But I am on Duran's side. 840 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 2: Agree. 841 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: A dar scene now that everything is at its weakest state, 842 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: that defenders are on their last legs, the wall is 843 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: about to go, rushes his reserves in with himself at 844 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: the head of them, and they take on King gil 845 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: l Rond is like basically out of it, still seeing 846 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: like no durance, Duran's coming, No, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, 847 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Durrance coming. He's just out of it, and around here, 848 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: a dark guts around heer, excuse me, who I don't 849 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: think is dead, but looks very very badly wounded. 850 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 4: He looks very badly wounded. 851 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 5: I'm hoping that Galadrio is gonna be able to like that, 852 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 5: someone's gonna be using a ring to heal him. Let's 853 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 5: be real. 854 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 4: So that's why I'm. 855 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: The wall finally goes orcs pour into the city. Elrond 856 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: continues to be shell shocked, stands over him, strangles him 857 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: and talks shit to him, and then yeah, he's shotting 858 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: so much, chatting incredible fucking shit at him, and then 859 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: reaches into his little fucking shirtcoat and pulls the ring 860 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: out on a little chain. L Ron lied, he did bring. 861 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 4: His dumb enough to bring it. He did bring it. 862 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 5: He got lured by the ring like everyone else, Like 863 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 5: my guy, I thought you were wise, I actually believed 864 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 5: in you, but you're just a silly little. 865 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: And now like I truly cannot wait for the finale 866 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: because how they gonna get out of this one? 867 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 4: How are they gonna get out of this one? 868 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 5: Also, I want to say, like what, okay, so what 869 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 5: are your like big predictions for the finale? Because This 870 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 5: does feel like a kind of Game of Thrones style 871 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 5: penultimate episode, big battle, and then you deal with the fallout. 872 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 5: But I feel like there's so much, so much. I 873 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 5: feel like they could do a total left turn and 874 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 5: just like spend the episode with like the stranger coming 875 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 5: to realize he's got or I feel like they could 876 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 5: kind of go to. 877 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 4: These interweaving plot lines. 878 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 5: Or we could just directly follow them from here and see, 879 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 5: like how you know, Galadriel gets out of this little 880 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 5: shanans or whatever, you know, Like, I what do you 881 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 5: think we're gonna see it? 882 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see would you like to see? 883 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: Well? 884 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna finally have Gandalf get his staff 885 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: and become Gandalf, and that will set up their conflict 886 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: with the Dark Wizard in the following season. I think 887 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: Oregon total lost defeat for the Elves. They will slink away, 888 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: probably towards Numanor or Lindon perhaps and just retreat. The 889 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: Saaran now with the rings, will have to get them 890 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: to the Kings of Men. He will slip away in 891 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: the chaos, and I think Adar will be triumphant, but 892 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: with final victory escaping his grasp because he will not 893 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: have Saron. 894 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 2: He will he doesn't know about the rings. 895 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 1: And sw will be off on his way to begin 896 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: seducing the leaders of men to his side. 897 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 5: That's where I think, Yeah, that's it's so too it's done, 898 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 5: it's finished. Also, I'm very interested to see like what 899 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 5: Calibrimble's plan is, and like maybe it's some kind of 900 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 5: dwarf esque like mirror kind of oh slection type. I 901 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 5: wonder if it's something like that where it's like literal light. 902 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 5: But yeah, very interested to see it. I think this 903 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 5: is a great example of what this season has been 904 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 5: doing really well, which is like when it gets on 905 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 5: a roll and it's pacing as on point, it just 906 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 5: starts rolling like a it's so good and you're just 907 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 5: so committed. And also it is fun, Like I feel like, 908 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 5: you know, in the nature of like this era and 909 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 5: the cinema sins and the and the plot holes and 910 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff that people talk about online, 911 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 5: I actually love to see people making bad decisions in 912 00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 5: shows like this. 913 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 4: It's fun, it's realistic. 914 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 5: And it's hilarious to be like yelling at the screen 915 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 5: and being like, bro, what are you doing when. 916 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 2: Verdonia got I'm like, tell Brimborg fucking. 917 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: Spit it out, like tell it, say the words sury 918 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: Anatour's sore on you lead with that and then uh, 919 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: when when he got. 920 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 2: Framed for Verdonnia's murder, I can't it was. 921 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: It was like, come on, I can't wait for the now. 922 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 4: It's gonna be so good. 923 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 9: M there's trying to connect his headphones. 924 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 10: Okay, if you have your other I'll uh, I was 925 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 10: gonna wait for or what else are with this question? 926 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 2: As a man of fashion. 927 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: Let's say the leaders of men and Dwarves Go Glad 928 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: and Duran came to you Ishmael and said, did you 929 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: redesign our aesthetic? We're kind of feeling it's kind of 930 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: stale and wearing the same stuff for a couple of 931 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: thousand years at least since the first age. 932 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 9: I'm in a prop crotch. 933 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: What would what would your tips for them be? 934 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 9: Listen? The thing is that I don't even know if 935 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 9: you know that scene with. 936 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, that seen in the Titanic that like Jack is 937 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 8: with like Kathy Bates and you know, and he gets 938 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 8: invited into the It's like I come from Chippo A 939 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 8: falls or. 940 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 6: Something like that. He doesn't know how to use the cutlery. 941 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 6: That's what will be out on there, like sitting with 942 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 6: these elves. He's like. 943 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 7: He's not he's not part of the whole thing, you know. 944 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 6: So I I I think that it's. 945 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 7: Like I got ten dollars in my pocket. YEA one 946 00:47:59,480 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 7: way to. 947 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 6: Like redesigning this. 948 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 8: We we started it like we started hot, like we 949 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 8: just went in like this whole this whole podcast. 950 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 7: Love it. 951 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 6: No, I mean the aesthetic. 952 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 8: I you know, I'm interested. I'm interested in knowing what 953 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 8: that would be like because I think we haven't, like 954 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 8: we haven't really experienced this kind of health. You know, 955 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 8: it's just insistently regal, consistently royal, and even Lego Lass, 956 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 8: who is uh you know what. 957 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 6: Elf as well, he's still the prince. You know, he's 958 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 6: still the prince. 959 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 8: So as far as I know, like, if it's not correct, 960 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 8: just get off my comments. I want to put like 961 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 8: like you know, like somebody that comments like certain words 962 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 8: that they get automatically a virus of all those windows 963 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 8: remember those. 964 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 7: I don't know if they exist anymore? 965 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, comment se virus trap leave a comment. 966 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 8: You know, just like a bunch of pop ups, like 967 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 8: when you used to download like a piracy. 968 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 4: Song online wire. 969 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, because it's like forty three days. 970 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 4: We're showing our age, guys, we're showing our age. 971 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, forty three days. 972 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 8: Forty three days, like it took to download like a 973 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 8: I don't know. 974 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 5: How nowadays they don't know how good they Yeah, they 975 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 5: don't know. 976 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it was a virus. 977 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 8: That's the thing they would give you, like the first three, 978 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 8: like fifteen seconds, and then they're like, I'm just. 979 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: Trying to up. I'm just I'm just trying to get 980 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, really. 981 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 11: Can. 982 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 7: A guy get bringing on main song without a. 983 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 6: Virus coming in? 984 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,479 Speaker 4: Please? Let but let us live. 985 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 7: We're trying to we're trying to get to White two 986 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 7: K exactly. 987 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 8: All the children who are listening, because you know, from 988 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,399 Speaker 8: two thousand to now they're twenty five, grown as people. Anyways, 989 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 8: I think, you know, I think it would be interesting 990 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 8: to see that that clash, because it would be nice 991 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 8: to put into question these structures, you know, I think 992 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 8: I think it will be very Tolkien. 993 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 7: Some people are like, what is this character? 994 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 8: I think it would be Yeah, it'd be nice to 995 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 8: complicate that because you know, if you guys are following 996 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 8: the season. You see Calebrinbog getting out of bent out 997 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 8: of shape. You see he's really getting bent. 998 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 6: Out of shape. Like Galadil is no shade. You know, 999 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 6: it's like from prisoner Prison about that. Like you have 1000 00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 6: like l Ron and. 1001 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 8: Galadia like consistently fighting, and one is there, one is there. 1002 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 8: Gild A Lot is sitting at his desk like wtf 1003 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 8: have the children done? 1004 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 6: And like you know, and again it's falling. 1005 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 8: Everybody's there, and there's this guy that comes in. I 1006 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 8: need to not run my mouth, but there's this guy 1007 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 8: that comes in and like saves you and saves you 1008 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 8: and saves the yellow one you know, rarely gets the credit. 1009 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 6: I'm just saying the showrunners are listening. 1010 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 8: No, but I mean, I don't think he I don't 1011 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 8: think he operates in that way either of the glory 1012 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,240 Speaker 8: even that like the I still you know, the glory 1013 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 8: of the Elks and also they I think, and you 1014 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 8: see it that's kind of their downfall as well, the 1015 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 8: Yelves and we are the Yells and we are the Yels. 1016 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 8: And this guy is like, I don't know, man, like 1017 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 8: I don't know. It's I don't know what y'all talking 1018 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 8: about I'm trying to survive. 1019 00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 6: I'm in this. 1020 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 8: Hole over here, always in mud, always in this, always 1021 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 8: in that. So it'd be nice to challenge, to challenge 1022 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 8: that experience and the aesthetics, of course, like they it's. 1023 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 6: Like they clearly don't run. 1024 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 8: Nobody you're running one. Would you know the one that 1025 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 8: runs is uh that I've seen, we've seen run. 1026 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 7: I think we see like riding horses part of it. 1027 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 7: She's bad horses. 1028 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 6: We don't see that. 1029 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 8: On their running horses because it's the riding horses, because. 1030 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 6: That's rich elf kind of thing. 1031 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 7: Expensive. Have you ever have you ever taken horseback? 1032 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 4: No, because it's expensive. 1033 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 2: I have. I went to exactly I did go to it. 1034 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 2: I went to a horseback riding camp. 1035 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: But this is neither here nor there, and it was 1036 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: very It was not an expensive Jason saying it was 1037 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 1: a boss. 1038 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 7: I was like, well, here's the. 1039 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 2: Thing I was. I was young. 1040 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be Here's what I was 1041 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 1: like eleven and in my mind when my mom said 1042 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: we're sending you to this camp, you're gonna there's there's 1043 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: horses there, I thought it was gonna be like cowboys. 1044 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have the hats and the vest 1045 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have the little rope. But we'd 1046 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 1: been doing lasso and it was not It was like 1047 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: we had to wear white shirts, which I hated because 1048 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: the shirt is immediately dirty and the horse was not galloping. 1049 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: They were all old I want to do like cowboys stuff, 1050 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: and we were just very boring. 1051 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: I didn't like it. 1052 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 4: Jesus turning it gets the horses. 1053 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 8: But he's trying to deflect from the fact that he 1054 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 8: just told us that. He's like, hey, no, guys, but 1055 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 8: I'm like, guys, I'm like. 1056 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 4: The rubbish version of horses. Okay, it wasn't that cool 1057 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 4: rich people version. 1058 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 2: It was like yeah, nah. 1059 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 3: But. 1060 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 9: Writing horse is expensive. 1061 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 8: It's like riding horses than therapy. So it's like, I uh, 1062 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 8: I think you can see, I mean you can sense 1063 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 8: the disconnect, Like I mean, it's beautiful, as the esthetics 1064 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 8: are beautiful, but as we're you know, like no matter 1065 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 8: is like we're going into the age of men, you know, 1066 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 8: like everything is changing and like and you literally see 1067 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 8: their skill set of a certain way. You know, you 1068 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 8: have to you have to get rings essentially, because what 1069 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 8: are we doing what do we know that we've been 1070 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 8: in this little cluster of elves and uh and you 1071 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 8: literally see that like you see huh, you know, you 1072 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 8: just see around running, you know, coming back, and but 1073 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 8: you still see out on the running in a different way. 1074 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 8: Even it's like sh so you understand that this this 1075 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 8: guy is like more adapted to the current like shape 1076 00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 8: of Middle Earth. 1077 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 6: And when it's going and then perhaps. 1078 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 12: The ground on the grounds on the ground, it's all going, 1079 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 12: it's all going to. 1080 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 5: I think that you you touch on something really interesting 1081 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 5: there too, because like some of the stuff that really 1082 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 5: speaks to people who love like talking and and and 1083 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 5: have kind of kept the Lord of the Rings movies 1084 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,240 Speaker 5: and stuff in the space is like when the Orcs 1085 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 5: are like advocating for better working rights to Seamon or 1086 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,280 Speaker 5: to like they're like, guys, we have families, like this sucks. 1087 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 4: We don't want to do the work. 1088 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 5: So we even get to see that humanity in the Orcs, 1089 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 5: But with the Elves, it is always this idea of 1090 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 5: like regality and stuff. So like for you when you're 1091 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 5: coming into playing essentially like a working class elf, like 1092 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 5: an elf with the boots on the ground, who's been 1093 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 5: in this military space. Who were you looking to because 1094 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 5: that didn't really exist before you. So what kind of 1095 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 5: performances and and spaces where you look into to kind 1096 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 5: of craft around it. 1097 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 8: I think think I've approached it just like you approach 1098 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,399 Speaker 8: I had to approach it just like you approach any 1099 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,439 Speaker 8: character in terms of like the insularity of it all. 1100 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 8: You know, I think it's very hard to play the 1101 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 8: world of anything, and I usually focus on what is what? What? 1102 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 9: What is this guy struggling with? 1103 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 8: What is it dealing with his lifes and this lice 1104 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 8: and or not? 1105 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 9: On top of that with you at the elderness. 1106 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 8: For me, there's a there's in several aspects that have 1107 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 8: affected my performance, and it's. 1108 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 9: Knowing that it's the first one that that to begin with. 1109 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 8: Knowing that it is the first one allowed me to 1110 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 8: separate myself from that. There was you know, we were 1111 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 8: developing a movement as well at the beginning, you know, 1112 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 8: high or ls or this whole thing that is apright 1113 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 8: and whatnot, And I was developing my my movement that 1114 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 8: was a little bit more close to around more. I 1115 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 8: was just thinking how how how do I perceive time 1116 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 8: as well? Because I mean we see things rise and 1117 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 8: fall like nature rise and fall, you know, just like 1118 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 8: and I do the spirally thing with my my fingers 1119 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 8: because usually nature, you know, spirals up and nature does that. 1120 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 8: Why I was like, oh, he sees the way that 1121 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 8: nature developed as well. So there's a lot of spirals, 1122 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 8: there's a lot of you know, there's. 1123 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 9: There's roots that come in. 1124 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 8: So so how I developed my movement based on based 1125 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 8: on that and on the fact. 1126 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 6: That he he was with people, he was. 1127 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 8: With the people all the time, with the people, and 1128 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 8: he was just there was information I was tasked. I 1129 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 8: was tasked to to to watch over these people and 1130 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 8: what was I before I was a grower. 1131 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 9: So essentially sounds like I was either drafted for everything 1132 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:54,919 Speaker 9: that I. 1133 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 8: Had was lost, you know. So from that backstory, I'm 1134 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 8: like this much more. This guy that has less control 1135 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 8: and just the car that he was dealt were just 1136 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 8: kind of stacked against them. And I love characters like 1137 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 8: that because in truth, that's eighty percent of people. 1138 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 1139 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 11: Now that's like you just figure it out, figure it out, 1140 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 11: figure it out, and one thing after the other you 1141 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 11: figure it out, and the one thing that really brings 1142 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 11: you up is like again, it's we all feel. 1143 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:32,439 Speaker 9: The same way. 1144 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 8: It's love is falling in love, it's it's connection, is 1145 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 8: is a friend. It's like that becomes the richest thing 1146 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 8: of them all when you have very little, you know, 1147 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 8: or also when you have a lot, like it's just 1148 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 8: these connections you go back to. So I developed them 1149 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 8: that way. But also I want it the feel like 1150 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 8: this hashtag the healthy is the elf that ever else? 1151 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 8: Because I mean, I think so seriously. 1152 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 9: I take it so. 1153 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 8: Because because there is an uprightness and indignity, but it's 1154 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 8: also you know, and there's a soldier aspect of it. 1155 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 9: There is just a layers and layers and layers of him. 1156 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 8: And it's also like he's called to act all the time, 1157 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 8: so he doesn't have a lot of time to be 1158 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 8: breathing or emoting or talking by any glowing tree, you know. 1159 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 9: So it's like there's no time. There's no time. 1160 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 8: It's like there's more closeness, there's more like there's less 1161 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 8: and less that you can say, you know, he pulls 1162 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 8: himself together through his brief you know, so and so on. 1163 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 5: And I was just going to say, you know, talking 1164 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 5: about humans and how they drive around it, I feel 1165 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 5: like we have to talk about their because he is like, 1166 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 5: how do you deal with THEO so many problems? 1167 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 3: Like you, we are always talking about this. 1168 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 5: Mad this kid caused all the problems. So what's it 1169 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 5: been like for you this this season to have to 1170 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 5: have Aaron Dale like carefi because of the connection to 1171 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 5: when really, I'm sure he just wanted to give him 1172 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 5: a little shake. 1173 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:12,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1174 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 6: As I said before, I. 1175 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 8: Cannot wait to have another pire and that just burn him. 1176 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 4: That's how we feel too, so. 1177 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 6: G t FO. 1178 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 8: No, I mean I think guys, I should co host 1179 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 8: this with you. 1180 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 6: Guys. 1181 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 4: You should. I'm saying, like, come on any time, come 1182 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 4: on any time. 1183 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 8: I also keep like shifting the light in trying to 1184 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 8: make sure that I look good because I forget that. 1185 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 4: Like it's the crew man, we're just hanging out. 1186 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 6: Like you know, you know, that's the thing. I think. 1187 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 8: And I have this other line and in season one 1188 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,439 Speaker 8: that and he says like it's taken it. It's taken 1189 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 8: me like two hundred years to some of the courage 1190 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 8: that is taking you to someone in fourteen years of 1191 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 8: your life or something like that. 1192 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 6: And I think he sees. 1193 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 7: Like his his his absolute. 1194 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 6: Massive amounts of. 1195 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 8: Existential questions that THEO is having something very very familiar 1196 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 8: to him. 1197 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 6: You know. 1198 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 8: So even though THEO is just being an absolute shit 1199 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 8: hit consistently consistently, that's like it's the official teenager of 1200 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 8: Middle Alert. He is his merch He is something that 1201 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 8: he understands quite a bit. And I think out only 1202 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 8: understands that he has to serve as a guidance for 1203 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 8: this sort of brilliant you know, because I think there's 1204 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 8: a lot of he's brilliant. He's ready to fight, he's 1205 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 8: thinking quite a bit, he's challenging authority, and he has 1206 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 8: like all the makings of a good warrior. Completely misguided, 1207 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 8: you know. But the kid is like at fourteen, he 1208 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 8: has to have like a little civil war. Like he's 1209 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 8: lost his dad, he's lost his mom. He's like me 1210 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,919 Speaker 8: chased bioworks now, like like he's taken by a freaking tree, 1211 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 8: like all of these things, like what were you doing 1212 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 8: when you were fourteen? You know. 1213 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 6: So I defended part a bit. 1214 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 8: And the impressed, But yeah, I think I think and 1215 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 8: then again, as he said earlier, I think it's an 1216 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 8: extension of his love for Bronwin, but also the nobility 1217 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 8: about on there. 1218 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 6: To protect and to protect all living beings. You know. 1219 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: Well, Ismail, thank you so much for taking the time 1220 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: to talk with us today. We love season two and 1221 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: you're so great in it. 1222 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 2: Thank you again. 1223 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, come back anytime because this was great. 1224 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 5: You want to talk about something you're enjoying, just hit 1225 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 5: us up and come back and we'll talk about it. 1226 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 8: We can we can do like a watch and discuss, 1227 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 8: you know, like just completely tearing everything apart. 1228 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 4: That sounds perfect. Just tell us what tell us? 1229 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that sounds good. Thank you so much. 1230 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 6: I take care, guys. 1231 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: In the next couple of episodes of Extra Vision, we're 1232 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: diving into the second episode of Penguin, and then on Friday, 1233 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: we're closing out Animation Month and heading into with a 1234 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: special look at the Uzumaki anime coming to Adult Swim. 1235 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 2: That's it for this episode. 1236 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 4: Thanks for. 1237 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: X Ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kenseepsion and Rosie 1238 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive 1239 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 1: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer 1240 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and 1241 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 1: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 1242 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 5: Special thanks to soul Rubin and Chris Laude, Kenny Goodman 1243 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 5: and Heidi our Discoll moderata