1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. When we think of the NFL playoffs, it's 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: a war of attrition. But this year in the NBA postseason, 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to come down to health 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: as well. You got Anthony Davis dealing with a groin injury. 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Now Lebron missed time with an ankle injury, Chris Paul 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: battling his shoulder problem, Luca don Chick has a nerve 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: issue in his neck, Joe Lnbid left last night's game 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: with a sore knee. Now hopefully they're not going to 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: miss many games, and I don't know how many players 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: are going to be one hundred percent, but this is 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: just the first round. You know, you think this season 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: comes down to major injuries. We've seen it before. Kevin 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Durant blew out as Achilles. That was in twenty nineteen 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: against the Raptors, And you know, just the reality of 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: this with the NBA, we don't want injuries to be 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: the main takeaway from the postseason this year, but it 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: certainly adds to the mystery of what's already been a 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: pretty unpredictable season and postseason probably going to get a 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: little bit crazier, but we'll talk to Mannix about that. 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: With Anthony Davis and with his availability or at what 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: percentage will he be in this pivotal game? Five? This 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: program brought to you by the great folks at Dollars 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: Shave Club. 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But which 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: team would be most dead if their star was out? 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: The seventy six Ers with mbid who's getting an MRI today? 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: The Lakers with Anthony Davis with a groin injury, the 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Mavericks with Luca Donche has a neck nerve issue, or 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: all of the above. Are they all just as the like? 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Have they all basically gone get rid of all the above? Okay, okay, 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: don't give people annount all the above. Well, I have 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: to look at bigger picture here, and I would say 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis because the Lakers are defending champs. If Luca 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: is not one hundred percent, and if they bow out 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: in the first round against the Clippers, they were not 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: expected to get to the second round. Now, they were 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: up two oh winning two games in Los Angeles, and 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: you would think that they would be favored to close 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: out the Clippers at some point. But I would say 47 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis because the bigger picture is without Anthony Davis, 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: the Lakers can't win a championship, and they are the 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: favorites along with the Nets. Yeah, Seton Lebron has a history, 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: though of doing it all by himself right where. I mean, 51 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: granted he was younger, but he's taken some pretty terrible 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: teams to the finals. I don't know if he can 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: do it. I think that you're going to ask him 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: to be great at his age at this time of 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: the year from month, and by great, I mean he's 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: got he's got to put up like crazy Russell Westbrook numbers. 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: He's got to get twenty five or thirty points. He's 58 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: got to get fifteen rebounds, he's got to get ten assists. 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: You got to get everybody involved. But also you look 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: at the supporting cast. You know, Kyle Kuzma, it just 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: feels like he leveled off. And you know maybe Lebron 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: stunted his growth. I don't know, but he's not getting better. 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, I mean he's ten years ago. That's a 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: great center to half. Not in today's game. Marcus saw 65 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: is old. Dennis Shrewder wants a big contract. Like the 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: there's guys that you say, all right, now, step up. Now, 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: you got to help out a little bit here because 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: you're sort of along for the ride. It's like being 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: the backup singer, you know, for James Brown. You're like, yeah, 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good gig. All of a sudden, you know, 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: James isn't feeling well, and it's like, wait, what we 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta do all the splits and singing and 73 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: all that. Yeah. I'm a globe with the seventy six ers. 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: The way the playoffs break with and there they have 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: a hand. They're basically handed the ease from conference finals 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: because it be the Hawks or the Knicks would be 77 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: they'd be heavily favored over. So I feel like and 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: beads the right answer because they have a path to 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: the finals as well, but they're not favored to even 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: get out of the East. Whereas Lebron with Anthony Davis, 81 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: without Anthony Davis, they're they're up there to win the 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: championship and be defending champs. Seventy Sixers aren't expected to 83 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: win the championship. Yeah, I mean, I get that this 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: would be an easy path to get to the Nets 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: or the Bucks, but I don't see it that way. 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I feel like because they were kind of three, they're 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: up three. Oh. There was a lot of buzz around 88 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: the Sixers, maybe because I'm a Philly fan, but ah. 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: So second question, this is related to something you just mentioned. Okay, 90 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: is Russell Westbrook overrated, underrated, properly rated, or impossible to rate? 91 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: And let me give you a quick example. He was 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: last night. He was twenty one, fourteen and nineteen, unbelievable 93 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: all time sets. He was three for nineteen from the field. Yeah, 94 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: and he had four turnovers. So what do you do 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: with that? Satline? I think we've just come up with 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: a new label, ir impossible to rate because I don't 97 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: know how you rate him and he's just a he's 98 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: a walking stat sheet. He plays hard on every possession. 99 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know if he helps his team win, 100 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: which is which is big? It's for us, that's big. Yeah. 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't ask too much other than are you helping 102 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: your team win? Yeah? See, I like that his impossible 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: to rate. His ir will actually have a rating like 104 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: he's seventy two. PR is like through the roof and 105 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: it's so hard to rate. It's it's too modern stats. 106 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: I like watching him, I'm entertained by him. I don't 107 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: want him as my point guard, which is weird when 108 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: you say, man, I love watching him. I just I 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: don't want him as my point guard because I don't 110 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: like if you can survive at three for nineteen, and 111 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: I know he helps you in other categories. It just 112 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: that's who he is. That's what he's always going to be. 113 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: And while I admire that he plays hard, he cares 114 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: about every single possession. I don't know if there's anybody 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: in the NBA that you can say truly cares about 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: every possession except for Russell Westbrook. Yeah. It seems like 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: analysts are split on Russell Westbrook though, because if you 118 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: don't like the way he plays, then he's this offense 119 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: killer who you'll never win with. But if you do 120 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: like the way he plays, the amount of offense he 121 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: generates for the entire teams through the roof, How can 122 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: one player be seen so differently? Yeah, I'm trying to 123 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: think of somebody else where you go? Is he great 124 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: like Odell Beckham? I don't know if he was sort 125 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: of in that category, but I don't know where he 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: is now. He's an IR guy to me because I 127 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: do I want Odell Beckham? No? Would I watch Odell Beckham? Yes, 128 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: fascinated by him, but I don't want him. Yeah, Paul, 129 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: If Jannis goes a couple more seasons in Milwaukee and 130 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: doesn't make it to the finals or win a title, 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: he could be an IR guy. A lot of points, 132 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: a lot of numbers, a lot of awards, no trophies. Yeah, 133 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm not entertained by the Greek freak. But 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: you've said before that his style is not necessarily conducive 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: to winning. Yeah, well he needs help now. I picked 136 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks to go to the NBA Finals, so I 137 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: think him as an underdog. He's not a great front runner. 138 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: He's not a favorite. But I don't tune in to 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: watch the Greek freak. I think he's fast. It's like 140 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, absolutely incredible, one of the great players of 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: all time. But it's not like you have that tune 142 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: in factor. Russell Westbrook has tune in factor. But I 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: don't know if he's great. He's a great player, great 144 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: team player. Yeah, mclu. How about Ben Simmons is an 145 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: ir guy? Yeah, absolutely he is. And look, I love 146 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, but I don't need Doc to tell me 147 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: what I'm missing about Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons can't shoot 148 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: free throws. He has not elevated his game offensively. Okay, 149 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: he's a really good defender, all right, I'm fine with that. 150 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: I just think at that size he should be dominating. 151 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: You gotta handle. You can get to the hoop, you 152 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: should dominate. But when you get to the free throw 153 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: line and I shoot better than you by far, that's embarrassing. 154 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: You can't be a liability at that position at the 155 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: end of the game. And what is strange when you 156 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: see pregame with the Sixers with Ben Simmons, you have 157 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: a shooting coach and he's at the line and he's 158 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: helping him. Anybody who has played golf and you start 159 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: to play, and then you get a lesson. Realize all 160 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: the bad habits that you have. Now you have to 161 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: get out of those bad habits. Ben Simmons needs to 162 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: be deep programmed. And how about we add a D 163 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: at the end of Ben It's bend, bend your knees 164 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: at the free throw line. Bend Simmons. Watch It's second 165 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: when I talk about people players learning how to pitch, 166 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: and I say, watch Greg Maddox. Just watch how he 167 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: uses the count, uses location, all of those things. Don't 168 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: have to be a power pitcher, puts the ball in play. 169 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: He pitches. He's a pitcher. You're not a thrower. Watch 170 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: some of these great Steph Curry shot ninety three percent 171 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: from the line this year. Wouldn't you go, how does 172 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: he do it? I do? I mean, I'm still trying 173 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: to perfect my shot. I'm sixty five and I can 174 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: shoot better than Ben Simmons can. It's embarrassing. Here's Doc Rivers. 175 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: I guess saying this to me and everybody else that 176 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: you know. Stop criticizing Ben Simmons. You guys, keep this 177 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons narrative alive, which to me is freaking insane. 178 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: How good this guy is and all the things he does. 179 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Ben is not a forty point guy. It's not what 180 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: he does. He does other things for your team, And 181 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why that's not sinking in in 182 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: our city. You know, everybody on the team doesn't have 183 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: to be a score to help the team. Ben scores, 184 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: but then create scoring for us. That's what he does. 185 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: So Yeah, if I've been at some point, I'd get 186 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: tired of it. I just would because he's just too 187 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: good and he does so many good things for this 188 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: basketball team. And which and I keep saying it, celebrate him, 189 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: celebrate all the stuff he does. Well, we don't do 190 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: that enough. Well, first of all, you know, I applaud 191 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: Doc for having his guys back there. But here's the thing, 192 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: what exactly do you celebrate with Ben Simmons? Like when 193 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: you watch him, do you go, wow, look at that defense? 194 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: What man? Did you see that rebound? He's a good 195 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: all around player. It's just he isn't what we thought 196 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: he was. Remember when I people thought I was joking 197 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: when he was at LSU and I thought he's shooting 198 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: with the wrong hand, and people thought, oh, that's funny. 199 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: You know, I go no. I he strikes me as 200 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: a guy who looks like he's right handed, but he's 201 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: shooting left handed. He has not gotten better. Is he 202 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: a good player? Yes? Is he a franchise player? No? 203 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Is he a clutch player? No? Those are things I celebrate. 204 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Game on the line, that's when you celebrate, that's when 205 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: you go wow. And Ben Simmons is not that player. 206 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: And if Joe ellenbad is out for any amount of time, 207 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: can you go to Ben Simmons and say, hey, we 208 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: want you to be like Magic Johnson was back in 209 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty NBA Finals where he played center and 210 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: scored forty two, Like, that's what you want. That's when 211 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: you ask somebody to be a little more than what 212 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: they are. And that's I don't think we're asking much 213 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: of Ben Simmons. We expected maybe too much. But I 214 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: think he's a good player, but he's not a great player, 215 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: and I don't think he ever will be a great 216 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: player because he's reticent to take the jumper, he doesn't 217 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: shoot free throws well, and he's got the ball in 218 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: his hands. Yeah, somebody had said last night, somebody tweeted 219 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: that Ben Simmons is such a great defender. He disrupts 220 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: both offenses. Wow wow as a means bear Wow. Yeah, McLevin. 221 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Do you have to pull him off the court if 222 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss all the if you're the coach, he's 223 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, he's are the free throws, 224 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: you have to get him out. Well. It used to 225 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: be Golden State Warriors did this with Steph Curry. Sometimes 226 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: they would take him out when the other team was 227 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: on when when he had to play defense and he 228 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: didn't play defense very well. He's better now, but they 229 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: it would be one of those offense defense. You'd put 230 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: him back in when you were on offense when when 231 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: you were playing in a big game. That's not the 232 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: case anymore. But I wonder if you have to do 233 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: that with Ben Simmons, you know, because if you do 234 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: a hacker shock on Ben Simmons, it's a great game plan. Yeah, McLevin. 235 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not going to score at the end 236 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: of the game anyway. It's Tobias Harris. Is there one 237 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: a option? Right? I don't know why he's out there exactly, 238 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: but you just can't, you know, shooting sixty one percent 239 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: from the line and Dwight Howard is even worse than 240 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: he is by which really hurts with him and beat out. 241 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He's been in late forever. He's still that 242 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: doesn't know how well you know, Dwight never had a 243 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: signature move, He never developed his game offensively. He was 244 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: just a great athlete and he was on the boards 245 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: and get put backs and things like that. But you 246 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: know he's a big man. Ben is Ben is your 247 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: bowl handler. So it's different. Age seven seven three d 248 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: P Show email address Dpadan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle 249 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: at DP show. Say good morning to Peacock, the streaming 250 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: service that carries the program, and our radio affiliates around 251 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: the country. Part of iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. We will 252 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: get to phone calls best and worst of the weekend. 253 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: What are we going to settle on? McLevin? Okay, there's two. 254 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: We have a Naomi as acopole that will save great. 255 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Question about fan behavior? Are you okay with the police 256 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: getting involved in fan behavior? Should they be prosecuted for 257 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: what happens in the arena as real crimes? Well, just 258 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: by saying we're going to revoke your season tickets or 259 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to be allowed back in. First of all, 260 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't work. I think it all this this is 261 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: his window dressing, Like, look at what we're taking a 262 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: stance on the Okay, somebody it throws a water bottle 263 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: at Kyrie Irving. Okay, can you press charges fell any charges? Sure, 264 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: at least you're sending a message there. I mean Trey Young. 265 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: I wish he would have filed charges against the guy 266 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: who spit on him. And and he's trying to be 267 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: the bigger man, not wanting to be the focal point 268 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: of you know, this series, you know, having it be 269 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: something like that other than his play, but like it, 270 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: like after a while, if you're a player, you're like 271 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: you want to be protected. In the NBA, you're you're 272 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: more exposed than any other sport, Like you have to 273 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: climb over a wall in baseball football, Yeah, good luck 274 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: coming on the field. Those guys all have pads on. 275 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: But basketball, you're right there. You're in some places, you're 276 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: sitting right next to players on the bench. When you 277 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: in bounce the ball, you can reach out and touch 278 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: that person right in front of you, but you agree 279 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: not to. So to me, you're almost We've given you 280 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: this access, and then what happens? Now, what do you do. 281 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Now do we move you back? Yeah, to the police 282 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: absolutely have to get involved, because if you did that 283 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: just on a public street. You can't throw a bottle 284 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: of somebody, especially at a pandemica. Certainly can't spit on 285 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: someone and not expect to possibly have the police get involved. 286 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Just because you have a ticket 287 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: to a game and it's an arena, there's a sporting 288 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: event going on, there's some kind of new rules for 289 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: how people can interact with other people. And also the 290 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving stepping on the logo at half court. God, 291 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: we have so many other things in this world to 292 00:16:53,480 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: worry about the travesty he stepped on Lucky. Okay, he 293 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: stepped on Lucky and people, Kevin Garnett, it's all upset, 294 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: Like guys are all upset, mister Seltzing himself, Kevin Garnett's upset. 295 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: My god day, he stepped on Luck. Hey, he stepped 296 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: on a fake mascot like he's a cartoon or like 297 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: we're angry at kay Okay, got I you know t 298 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: o when he stepped on the logo with the cowboy, 299 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: I get it. I understand. Oh, I'm so upset, like 300 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: I'd be worried about other things. How about you stop 301 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Kyrie and the nets when they're playing not I'm so 302 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: mad that he stepped on our logo. He stepped right 303 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: on his face. Can we check and see if Lucky 304 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: is he gonna be available? Like? What is his He's 305 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: declined comment and he's guys spending some time with his 306 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: family members right now. Well, but I want to know 307 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: if he's available if the you know, they play another 308 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: game there, I'd like to know what his health status is. 309 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess he's questionable. You know. Chris Mannix, a 310 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: former Boston Celtics ball boy, will join us. He's got 311 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: to be so upset with Kyrie. Yes, mclove, we're playing 312 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: the game. Footage apparently stepped on it dozens of time 313 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: during the game too. Others did. Yeah, the whole team 314 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: was stepping on it all game long. I know, bounced 315 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: the ball over. Oh my god, look at what they 316 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: did the Lucky. That's why Lucky has one eye closed, 317 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: because I think somebody stepped on that eye. Be sure 318 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show 319 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: week days at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on 320 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app Let's bring 321 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: in Kris Stops Mannix Sports Illustrated NBA senior writer. Let 322 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: me start with the tragic story of what happened with 323 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Kyrie stepping on the Celtics logo as a former ball 324 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: boy at the Garden. How do you feel too? Are 325 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: you okay to talk today about what happened? It took 326 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: me twenty four hours to really get comfortable expressing my feelings, 327 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: but yes, I'm ready to talk to him. Is there 328 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: etiquette with this? Like? Did he do something that's egregious? Here? 329 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Is he's never going to be forgiven. I mean, the 330 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Celtic fans don't like him anyway. But well, yeah, look, 331 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: stepping on the logo and the way Kyrie did, you 332 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: can certainly say it's disrespectful. I mean Kevin Garnett obviously 333 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: took umbrage with it. And we've seen stuff like this 334 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: in the past with Terrell Owens on the Star and 335 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Dallas and and things like that. It's it's but I 336 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: mean it certainly doesn't warrant it's You can't compare getting 337 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: a bottle thrown at you, whether it's a water bottle, whatever, 338 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: tossed at you as as some kind of equivalent there, 339 00:19:54,040 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: but it's the I mean Kyrie. The anger Boston fans 340 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: field towards Kyrie is not different than the anger Oklahoma 341 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: City fans felt towards Ken Kevin Durant or Cleveland fans 342 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: back in twenty ten felt towards Lebron James like he left, 343 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: they were, you know, going to He said he was 344 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: going to stay. They believed he was going to be 345 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: part of something big. They already left, so they're mad, 346 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: like that's It's really not all that complicated when it 347 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: comes to Kyrie. Irvitt, I haven't heard much from the 348 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: commissioner about these fan incidents here, but you know, you're 349 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: you're really wide open here. You're you know, when we 350 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: think of NBA players, you can sit right next to 351 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: a player on the bench, you can reach out and 352 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: touch that player. There's no other sport that's like this. 353 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: So what options does the NBA have in trying to 354 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: curb this. Oh, you've seen already in the last couple 355 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: of days more enhanced security in these arenas, and maybe 356 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: as things go forward, this doesn't stop, you'll see even 357 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: more security, whether it's presences from security guards that are 358 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: more visible on the floor, or some kind of taping 359 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: of some kind of or a blockade of some kind 360 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: from the fans sitting court side. But I think from 361 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: what I when I talk to people within the NBA 362 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: about this, it's still they're still trying to formulate strategies 363 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: beyond just the enhanced security that they've already implemented. I 364 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: think what the NBA is hoping and this isn't really 365 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: within their purview, but you know that the punishments that 366 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: are doled out by authorities dissuade this type of behavior. Now, 367 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: I do think charging the fan in Boston with assault 368 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: and battery of felony is a little bit much, But 369 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: I think some kind of legal repercussions where people that 370 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: do stuff like this have to either pay a substantial fine, 371 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: community service, something that comes with some teeth to it, 372 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: because you know, Dan banning a guy from arena doesn't 373 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: really work. I mean, it's not like you're going to 374 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: have this guy's picture like on a proverbial milk carton 375 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: in the arena, like you can still come in and out. 376 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: I think there's got there's the hope that punishments with 377 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: more teeth will dissuade this behavior. Do you know what 378 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: the alcohol policy is at NBA games? Like a lot 379 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: of baseball games, will say seventh inning, they stop. I 380 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: mean alcohol is playing a role in this? Yeah, I believe. 381 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's universal, but most venues that 382 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: the most areas I've gone to, is that end the 383 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: third quarter you can't servee after that. So it's almost 384 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: like baseball where they recognize the the end is coming 385 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: and over the last thirty minutes of the game you're 386 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: not allowed to go buy, which of course sends people 387 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: running to you know, the venders to you know, buy 388 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: six at a time and go back to their seats 389 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: that way. So it's not it's not a perfect solution, 390 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: but that's what most arenas I've been around go with. 391 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: I applaud Doc Rivers for standing up to those who 392 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: doubt Ben Simmons, but like Ben Simmons has not gotten better, 393 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: He's he's there's a ceiling with Ben Simmons. And while 394 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: I understand what Doc is doing, Ben Simmons is not 395 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: a great player. And maybe it's not his fault, it's 396 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: our fault because we thought he was going to be 397 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: the next Magic Johnson. Where do you stand on Ben 398 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: Simmons and is he a good player? Is he a 399 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: very good player? Is he a great player? I go 400 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: very good. Great is usually reserved for the MVP candidates 401 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: at least every single year, And I agree with you. 402 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: I think Ben Simmons has a ceiling, especially offensively, you know, 403 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: I think what he does great is better than the 404 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: top one percent of the NBA. Defensively, he's in the 405 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: top one percent. Running a fast break, he's in the 406 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: top one percent. But over the years, and we're now 407 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: at that kind of mid twenties point of Ben Simmons 408 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: career where you'd expect to see some growth in certain areas. 409 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: You're not really seeing it. You're not seeing it at 410 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: the free throw line, you're not seeing it from three 411 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: point range. He's still not comfortable pulling up from really 412 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: anywhere outside the paints. So I'm not expecting at this 413 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: stage of Ben simmons career for that to substantially improve 414 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: as it goes forward. I still think he can be 415 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: a key cog on a championship team because that defense 416 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: and that uniqueness to him playing the point guard position 417 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: is incredibly valuable. But I think we're past the point 418 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Dan where we're waiting for Ben Simmons to reach that 419 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: next level. I don't think that next level is going 420 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: to come. He can still be great or still be 421 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: really good, but I don't think that next level for 422 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is going to be there. Brook Lopez didn't 423 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: hit a three for seven years in the NBA, then 424 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: he became a good three point shooter. Like this can happen. 425 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: And it's not that Ben's form is bad on his jumper. 426 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't bend at the free throw line like it's 427 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: very stiff. It just feels like, you know, it's confidence. 428 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: You know, Lonzo Ball the same way, Like you get 429 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: to the point where now you're comfortable with this. But 430 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, I even said to Reggie Miller, Ben should 431 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: reach out to you. You could help him from the line, 432 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: You could help being from three point range. But I 433 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: don't know what kind of I don't want Ben wants 434 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: to be or you know. And so that's what when 435 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: Doc says this, I'm like, okay, Doc, you know, he's 436 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: like he's great. We don't see greatness with Ben Simmons 437 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: because what's he do? He guards somebody, He'll have a 438 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: pass on a fast break and he'll rebound. Okay, there's 439 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: nothing great there where you go, Oh my god, did 440 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: you see Ben Simmons. When's the last time you said, 441 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: do you see Ben Simmons last night? It doesn't happen. Well, 442 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean I've done I have done that. I mean 443 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: when when Ben pass these great games where he puts 444 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: up like twenty fifteen and fifteen, like those are great performances. 445 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: They're not empty stats. He's doing it. But there still 446 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: comes the time in the fourth quarter where you're worried 447 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: about him getting hacked instead of the free throw a line. Yeah, 448 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: you're worried about teams scheming to leave him alone on 449 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: the perimeter, knowing he's a non threat. It's tough to 450 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: play four on five offensively at the championship level. So 451 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: that's what's going to stop Ben Simmons from getting to 452 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: that next level. He's Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated NBA senior writer. 453 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: How concern should the Lakers be? I think you're very concerned. 454 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, the Davis injury is pretty scary, considering 455 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be out, most likely for Game five, 456 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: and with the series moving quickly, you don't know if 457 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: it's if Game six, he's gonna be available either. And 458 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: they were a very average team without Davis during the 459 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: regular season. Nineteen and seventeen was the record, you know. 460 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: And on top of that, in this series, you know, 461 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: he's been largely their front court production. I mean, Andre Drummond, 462 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: who was brought in like for this reason to match 463 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: up with the DeAndre Ayden, has been getting completely outplayed 464 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: by Aidan. It wouldn't surprise me to see Marcus all 465 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: in the starting lineup in this Game five. I think 466 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: Gasol has proven to be a better fit with this 467 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: team offensively, at least in this particular series. So if 468 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: you're the Lakers, it can't just be a superhuman Lebron performance. 469 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: Like it's got to be Marcusol shooting a high percentage. 470 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: It's got to be a Kuzma having a breakout offensive game. 471 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: When I saw from Chris Paul suggests to me that 472 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: that shoulder is getting better and if he can get 473 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: to be seventy five of what he usually is, there's 474 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: enough weapons on that Phoenix team at home to beat 475 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: the Lakers in Game five and to win this series. 476 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Are you picking the Suns? Yes? This is gonna bite 477 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: me again because every time. Every time I go against Lebron, 478 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: I lose. So take that for what it's worth. Like, yeah, 479 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: he put me out. I didn't even think about who 480 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: I was picking until that exact moment. But this is 481 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: eventually going to make me look stupid. So yes, yeah, 482 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: you're aware that Lebron's on the Lakers, right, I am, okay, 483 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: just want to make sure because this hasn't gone well 484 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: like in the last twelve years. It feels like you 485 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: go against Lebron, you're like Paul Pierce. You don't like Lebron. 486 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: I do like Lebron. I just for some reason, I 487 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: I sort of like convinced myself that other teams can 488 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: beat him, like I was doing that with Like I 489 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: did that with Atlanta at one point, you know, during 490 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Lebron's tenure, which was incredibly stupid in hindsight, but like 491 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: Boston several times over out your show, I think I 492 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: said it was more likely than not that the Lakers 493 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, which a clip that I was 494 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: made to eat over and over again on social media 495 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: for almost two years. So but why don't you go 496 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: with Lebron? Well, I look, I did. I'm gonna get 497 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Going into the playoffs with the Lakers 498 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: at full strength, I picked the Lakers to win the 499 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: whole thing. I did, I thought, but the AD injuries significant, 500 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Like going without him against this team is going to 501 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: be really tough. So we'll see what put Lebron can 502 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: pull out. Like invariably he does it right, Invariably he 503 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: does something superhuman that makes people like me look stupid. 504 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: But this is a tough, tough matchup for that Laker 505 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: team without Ad. What kind of fall out do you 506 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: think that the Lakers will have if they don't get 507 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: out of the first round given the circumstances, Probably not much. 508 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: But do they keep Dennis Shrewder? Do they get rid 509 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: of Kyle Kuzma? Uh Marc Gas? Saul is probably a 510 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: one and done. Do they keep on two year contracts? 511 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: And I don't want him another year? I think they're well, 512 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: you kind of stuck with him, though, I don't know 513 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: what you know, just wave him and eat the sound. 514 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I honestly this you know. And this goes back to 515 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: a conversation about several teams that are facing questions. Whether 516 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: it's Boston or Miami or whatever. This season has been 517 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: so weird with COVID issues, four games and five nights, 518 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: myriad injuries. The Lakers have it at the forefront of it. 519 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you overreact to the end result of 520 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: this season. If they get beat in the first round 521 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: by Phoenix. There are reasons for it, right, You lost 522 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, you had a bunch of injuries that affected 523 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: your chemistry. Andre Drummond came in late. You can explain 524 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that away. I think it would be 525 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: a mistake to just, you know, blow up the Lakers. 526 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: You may have a tough decision to make on Dennis Shrewder. 527 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he clearly wants to get like, you know, 528 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five million dollars per year on a new contract, 529 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: So maybe that's a tough call. But this is still 530 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: a Laker team, Dan that when fully healthy, I would 531 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: favor them going into next year. I would consider them 532 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: a favorite going into next year. Who do you like 533 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: with the Clippers and MAVs. Now, you know, I dogged 534 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: the Clippers pretty bad after you know, Game two, because 535 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: I didn't think they had the mental toughness to do 536 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: what they did over the last couple of games. And 537 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, we banged on you know, playoff Pee, Paul 538 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: George and Kawhi Leonard. You know for kind of not 539 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: showing up against Luca don Chees. They showed up in 540 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: these last couple of games, and again, circumstances affect kind 541 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: of what you project the series to be. Luca's injured. 542 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: He looked hurt in that last couple of games. Now 543 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: there's been reports that he's feeling better going into this 544 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: next this game five. But if he's anything but one 545 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent, I think the Clippers have done enough to 546 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: get back in this series. It's remarkable, it really is. 547 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: I thought this team was done. I thought they would 548 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: lose at most in five games, maybe even get swept. 549 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: But the mental toughness this Clipper team showed, Tylu, the 550 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: adjustments he made in defending Luca don Chicks. It really 551 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: is an impressive turnaround by the Clippers. Great to talk 552 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: to you again, Chris, Thank you. We appreciate your time. 553 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: As always, it's gotta be like Lakers at six, so 554 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I know, okay, I know. Keep for 555 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: your head on, right, yeah, all right, that's Chris Mannix, 556 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: the senior NBA writer for Sports Illustrated. Fox Sports Radio 557 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 558 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and 559 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey 560 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: it's me Rob Parker. 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One of the big topics over 568 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: the weekend Naomi Osaka as withdrawn from the French Open 569 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: and announcing on social media yesterday that she will take 570 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: some time away from the court, one day after she 571 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: was fined and threatened with Herscher's sanctions for skipping her 572 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: mandatory media obligations. She in a lengthy statement, said she 573 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: never wanted to be a distraction. Her withdrawal is the 574 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: best thing for the tournament, the other players, and my 575 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: well being. She also went on to say, I think 576 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: now the best thing for the tournament the other players 577 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: and my well being is that I withdraw so everyone 578 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: can get back to focusing on tennis, the tennis going 579 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: on in Paris. I never wanted to be a distraction. 580 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: I accept that my timing was not ideal and message 581 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: could have been clear. It just feels like there could 582 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: have been some kind of common ground if I said 583 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: to both parties, here's a do over, let's go back 584 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: a week. That's how about we do something closed doors 585 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: where we have you come in. You want to have 586 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: a representative in there with you, you want to have 587 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: your family in there with you, Come on in. Let's 588 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Because if it's real what she 589 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: goes through, and it's depression, first of all, she shouldn't 590 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: be playing in a tournament right now if she's affected, 591 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: if there's something that is really affecting her. She doesn't 592 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: play well on clay, she doesn't want to hear negative 593 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: comments after a loss. There's a lot of pressure on her. 594 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: She's very young, she makes a lot of money and endorsements. 595 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's more than this. Is 596 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: it player empowerment? Is it? You know the French Open 597 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: saying we're not going to let you wag the dog. 598 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: Here they're running a tournament, and this is what they 599 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: These are the rules that they put in place here. 600 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: But is there a way that you could have said, Naomi, 601 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: why don't you pick somebody you're comfortable asking you questions? 602 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: And this is a pool reporter. This happens at the 603 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Peter King has been the pool reporter where 604 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: he'll go, he gets to watch practice and then he 605 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: gets to report on that. But let's say Naomi is 606 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: comfortable with somebody and she can get quotes. That's a 607 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: fifteen minute session, and then maybe you can do that. 608 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Look back on what happened to Ricky Williams. Remember when 609 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: Ricky when he was with the Saints, he wore his 610 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: helmet and advisor, but he had social anxiety. We had 611 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: no idea what that was. He was like, man, Ricky Williams, 612 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: what is wrong with him? And then of course Ricky 613 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: decided that, you know, he didn't want to play football. 614 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: And then we looked at that, how do you walk 615 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: away from football? Well, Ricky was doing what was best 616 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: for him. That is two thousand and four or that 617 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: that happened with Ricky Williams. Now here's this great football player, 618 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: but social media had not been invented and he had 619 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: social anxiety. I think you've seen a better outpouring of 620 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: support for Naomi. Martina Nervatalova. I'm so sad about Naomi Osaka. 621 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: I truly hope she will be okay. As athletes were 622 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: taught to take care of our body, and perhaps the 623 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: mental and emotional aspect gets short shrift. This is about 624 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: more than doing or not doing a press conference. Good luck, Naomi. 625 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: We're all pulling for you. Steph Curry reached out. You 626 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to make a decision like this, but so 627 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: damn impressive to take the high road when the powers 628 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: that be don't protect their own major respect. That's from 629 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. You know, there's a lot to unpack here. 630 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: As somebody who has battled depression, understand that. I understand 631 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: if you feel a way, or you know that she does, 632 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: or she feels confined or trapped and she goes to 633 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: these press conferences and people keep asking these questions, the 634 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: same ones over and over and over, and if she 635 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: has social anxiety like that, I truly understand that. But 636 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: you use the media and you could use it to 637 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: your benefit, and then you don't want the media. Do 638 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: they ask the same questions over and over? Yes, they do. 639 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: But I don't know if anything's really changed here, Like 640 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: what is what has changed in the approach that you 641 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: have with these press conferences, more pressure, more well known, 642 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: more famous, and I think the leagues are the leagues 643 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: are looking at all the other Grand Slam events said 644 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. Hey we're gonna, we're gonna, you know, 645 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: treat you the same way the French is here, like 646 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: you have an obligation or is there something she could 647 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: have done that said, hey, can you have somebody who 648 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable answering these questions and I'll do the fifteen 649 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. I'll do a camp you know, you know, 650 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: maybe one day when I'm not playing, I get to 651 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: go out and I get to give back. Like it's 652 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: about growing the sport, and certainly with women's tennis, growing 653 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: the sport. And it's not all on Naomi, but she 654 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 1: is the figurehead. Now, remember Marshawn Lynch decided he wasn't talking, 655 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: you know, all right, find me go ahead, And this 656 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: is about player empowerment too. I think that makes you know, 657 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: look at what's happening with the NCAA. It's about player 658 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: empowerment and it scares the NCAA to death. Now all 659 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, athletes, I remember saying to Tiger Woods 660 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: years ago, why not just control all the messages you 661 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: want to send out. You don't need somebody to sit 662 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: down with you and he has his own website and 663 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: you put out an announcement there. I get it. Does 664 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: it make our job tougher? Yeah? But so what athletes 665 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: use the media? We use athletes. We hope that we're 666 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: getting information to give to you, the fans, And I 667 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: think there is an obligation by these athletes. You may 668 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: not be comfortable. How do we make you comfortable? My 669 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: concern is you're going to have a lot of athletes 670 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: who say the same thing just because they don't want 671 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: to do it, and nobody wins there. I think the fans, 672 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean the fans want to know, like what happened, 673 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: what happened in that moment, whatever that is. I think 674 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: the fans you deserve that. But we love to tell stories. 675 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: It's not just a match, it's not a game. It's 676 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: a story. You know, you have times when you're going 677 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: to ask, you know, coaches have to have a press 678 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: conference every Tuesday. In the NFL, there's mandatory and you're 679 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: able to and that drives the whole week with all 680 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: of the networks, all of the content there, and that's 681 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: why the NFL is king. The NFL is always in 682 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: the news cycle. Tennis is not. And I think if 683 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: Naomi had to do over, you go to the French 684 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: Open and you just say, can we make this more 685 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: comfortable for me? I'm battling this. I deal with this now. 686 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: She says, well, you don't want to go in after 687 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: you've lost and then you just hear negative questions and 688 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here. Well, first of all, she doesn't lose 689 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: very often. Imagine the player who's not very good who 690 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: asked to go in there and answer questions as to 691 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: why they're not very good. Naomi is a great tennis player, 692 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: but I think there's pressure nobody wants to hear. And 693 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: I've been in those press conferences for decades now. I 694 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: know what's asked, how it's asked. You're trying to get 695 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: them to say something. You bait them. Not everybody has, 696 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, altruistic motives here, and you might hit a 697 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: sensitive spot. I get it. It's uncomfortable, but it just 698 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: feels like there's a way that they could have salvaged this. 699 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: And I hope these other Grand Slam events will look 700 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: at these individuals as individuals, not a here's a blanket statement. 701 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: This is how you're treated and you don't like it, 702 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,479 Speaker 1: We're going to find you fifteen thousand dollars. Nobody wins there, 703 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: and that's my biggest takeaway. I'd like to have seen 704 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: her play in the French Open, and now you don't 705 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: get that opportunity. If this is Serena Williams, do people 706 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: react differently with the tournament, react differently? I don't know. 707 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: What if this is in another sport. A quarterback doesn't 708 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: want to talk, feels uncomfortable. What if Patrick Mahomes said, 709 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't want to talk. You know, 710 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't help me. I hear negativity here and okay, 711 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: I understand, But I hope it's viewed as individually. How 712 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: do we make sure that we are doing what's best 713 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: for our athletes, for the people who build our sport. 714 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: And if you can't give me something here, then give 715 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: me something over here. We can get somebody, give me 716 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: somebody you know from a tennis magazine or covers the 717 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: sport with the New York Times or whoever it is 718 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: you're comfortable with. But we need to have you being 719 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: on camera answering questions. We need that. Yeah, mclub. Do 720 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: you think the market corrects itself in some way? Like 721 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: the players who don't do press conferences will become somewhat 722 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: around of it. Like I think a Cam Newton and 723 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: you know he puts all that effort into his fashion 724 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: statements because he wants to go in front of the 725 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: press and market himself and to some degree, but so 726 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these guys like an NBA, 727 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: like I know, they don't like doing it, but they 728 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: also get a lot out of it. Right, Oh, I 729 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: think you can use the media. I said, years and 730 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: years and years ago when players they were told they 731 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 1: had to get dressed up to go to a press conference. 732 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: This is after Iverson and Steve Nash, and I said, 733 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you reach out to Armani or Joseph Abood, 734 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: get a partner and get dressed up. They're gonna they're 735 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna dress you up. You get to go in there. 736 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: You can be a brand. And Dwayne wage one of 737 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: the first that did that, and then now look at him. 738 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: Most of these guys go to a p Look at 739 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady goes to a press conference right out of 740 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: a fashion magazine. You can use the media. Do you 741 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: like the questions? No? Are there questions that are out 742 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: of bounds that are yes? If you have somebody who 743 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: monitors this, like, I think that would help that you 744 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: have somebody who is there just a monitor the press 745 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: conference to say ask that in a better way, or 746 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: that's not a fair question, Like maybe you could be 747 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: a buffer, but I would never be a little Anybody 748 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: who goes through this has social anxiety. Now I have 749 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: somebody in my family who deals with that. It's really 750 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: really scary and depression. I don't know how this affects Naomi. 751 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: I hope that she gets help before she goes back 752 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: and plays in a tennis tournament. I think that's the 753 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: most important part of all of this. But and maybe 754 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: this helps. Maybe now she's let everybody know you've unloaded this, 755 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: and now the media knows, and maybe they're a little 756 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: bit more aware or sensitive when you go into these 757 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: press conferences. Be sure to catch the live edition of 758 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 759 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app