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Speaker 2: I said, what'd you do? Because I was up late

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Speaker 2: The Drake team slipped and didn't buy it. I bought

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Speaker 1: So today we sank Drakes and it's huge because that's

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Speaker 1: So it's not a gift from Drake. It's a gift

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, you pretendious pos see you you see

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Speaker 4: what being greedy can get you? Imagine this, even imagine

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Speaker 4: It was a complete overreach because these people are greedy,

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Speaker 4: And got your welcome back to us up there podcast.

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Speaker 4: another episode of the Fastest Groom. You know the Vibe

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Speaker 4: the shit that's happening at Amazon. You dig the shit

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00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: this happening with the record labels, the Drake shit, the

440
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: streaming numbers. Like this business to be spoke about. But

441
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 4: they no longer speak about these things now. They just

442
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 4: spend a majority at that time shooting at each other.

443
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: And she's already just one female in the room. As

444
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 4: my fellow content brothers, I'm telling y'all that this is

445
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: starting to look weird. It's starting to look very and

446
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 4: also like y'all need to get back on your shit, like,

447
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 4: get back to the subjects, get back to the topics,

448
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 4: get back to being the service of the culture. There

449
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: was a congressman in Tennessee. They got jacked up and

450
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: threw out of the House of Representatives. He was on

451
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Speaker 4: Breakfast Club the next week. You know what I'm saying,

452
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: It's like, are you that for our culture? When that's

453
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 4: the reach you really have if you're Joe Budden. But

454
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: just like these rappers that's going on stream, That's what

455
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying, where are the businessmen that were like like

456
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Speaker 4: j they were like fifty, they were like QC, they

457
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 4: were like master P. They were like, right, where are

458
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: these dudes at? These next croper niggas is just bullshitting.

459
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: You did enough character development, my nigga. Start being of

460
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 4: service to the culture. That's how you moved to the

461
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: next level the entertainment factor.

462
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: Y'all got it.

463
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Speaker 4: Whenever y'all needed, start being of service, pay attention to

464
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Speaker 4: some more.

465
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 9: Shout out to him and the en for being professionals.

466
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 9: That it was long, but it was still a two

467
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 9: that you fell into it was still a market. I

468
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 9: didn't fall into anything. And then you try to dress

469
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 9: it up as yo, I'm being celebrated, So allow me

470
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Speaker 9: to be celebrated at the detriment of your boss.

471
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Speaker 11: And how is it them?

472
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 7: Because it was an.

473
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 9: Insult your Melissa for you around a dick sucker, it

474
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 9: was an insult to him.

475
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Speaker 12: He never says his name, He never says his name,

476
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 12: he never says his name, He doesn't say anybody's name.

477
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 11: He doesn't say anybody's name.

478
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Speaker 9: You are right, if that's the angle you're going with,

479
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Speaker 9: I have to respect that, and I yield.

480
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Speaker 12: It's it's not it's the.

481
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 4: And see I don't like that, right because clearly this

482
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 4: is a merchbis direction. This is not praise, this is

483
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: not this is bullshit. Drake is playing the game. That's clear.

484
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 4: But at the same time, the backdrop still remains that

485
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: Joe Budden and his team winning bought the UURL. So

486
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 4: two things can be true, and that's what we have

487
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Speaker 4: to realize too. Right, simultaneously things can be happening. Right

488
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: and they know this because they're arguing that Drake. Simultaneously

489
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: this Joe and bigged up mail. So with that being said,

490
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: both things are true. The same is true in this scenario.

491
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: What Drake is big enough male, but he's also doing

492
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: he's also doing the merch misdirection because it's not praise. Really,

493
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494
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Speaker 4: of two's like, huh, it's the only thing. Now, come on, sweetie,

495
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Speaker 4: that's going on stream, That's what I'm saying. Where are

518
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Speaker 4: the business men that were like Jay, they were like fifty,

519
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Speaker 4: they were like QC, they were like master P. They

520
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521
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,800
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522
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: my niggas. Start being of service to the culture. That's

523
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: how you moved to the next level. The entertainment factor.

524
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: Y'all got it. Whenever y'all needed, start being of service,

525
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Speaker 4: pay attention to some more.

526
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 9: Shout out to him and En for being professionals. That

527
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 9: it was long, but it was still a two that

528
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 9: you fell into it was still a market.

529
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 11: I didn't fall into anything.

530
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 9: And then you try to dress it up as Yo,

531
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 9: I'm being celebrated, So allow me to be celebrated at

532
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 9: the detriment of your boss.

533
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 11: How is it the dutriment because it.

534
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 9: Was an insult your Melissa for you around a dick sucker,

535
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 9: It was an insult to him.

536
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 12: He never says his name, He never says his name,

537
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 12: He never says his name. He doesn't say anybody's name.

538
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 12: He doesn't anybody's name.

539
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 7: You are right, that's the angle you're going with.

540
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: I have to respect that, and I yield.

541
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 11: It's not it's the only angle.

542
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: And see I don't like that, right because clearly this

543
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: is a merchbis direction. This is not praise, this is

544
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: not this is bullshit. Drake is playing the game. That's clear.

545
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: But at the same time, the backdrop still remains that

546
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: Joe Budden and his team winning bought the U r L.

547
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: So two things can be true, and that's what we

548
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: have to realize too. Right, simultaneously things can be happening, right,

549
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 4: and they know this because they're arguing that Drake. Simultaneously

550
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: this Joe and big ed up male. So with that

551
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: being said, both things are true. The same is true

552
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: in this what Drake is big enup Mail, but he's

553
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: also doing he's also doing the merched misdirection because it's

554
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: not praise. Really, it's not praise, it's picking and for Mail,

555
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: the ACU two's like, huh, it's the only thing. Now,

556
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: come on, sweetie, But I can only imagine it's fifteen

557
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: on one. It's a twenty v one in now on, beloved,

558
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 4: pay attention. And for those of you that cannot see

559
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: the video, what Jess was said, because they're probably a clipping.

560
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: For those of you who cannot see the video, what

561
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: Jess was said was Mail, you fell into the trap

562
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: with Drake. He was using you to get in between Joe.

563
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 4: And she said, well, he never said his name. I

564
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: don't necessarily respect that because we knew he was speaking

565
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: about Joe. The fact of the matter is that they

566
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: were mad that Melissa Ford celebrated Drake beigging her up

567
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: from the get go. But that still doesn't make it

568
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: right to go and buy the URL and reroute it

569
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: to a business Melissa Ford has nothing to do with

570
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: in which makes I would imagine six or seve been

571
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: figures a month easily. This is unacceptable behavior. I mean,

572
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: this is literally this is groundbreaking. This is groundbreaking behavior

573
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: from Joe Budden as he has built his brand on

574
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: being creative first. This is encroachment on the highest level.

575
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: While I do understand that she's acting up to what

576
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: what happened, I don't respect that. What I will say, though,

577
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: she should have been able to capitalize off of it

578
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: herself if she leaned into it. I'm also gonna put

579
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: on the record that I believe her to be virtue

580
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: signaling something is not right at JBP. For mail Ford,

581
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 4: it's clear this is a very clear undertone in her

582
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: facial expressions, in her actions, and it even gets better.

583
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: Pay attention to this.

584
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 8: Well, all right, that's nothing. If Drake had made.

585
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 13: A song saying, Joe you a legend, I hate that

586
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 13: you sit next to a dick sucker and never said

587
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 13: your name, would you be comfortable with Joe celebrating that

588
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 13: song under the premise that he never said Melissa.

589
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 11: Let me tell you something.

590
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 12: Do you know what I've had to fucking listen to

591
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 12: for the last twenty fucking years.

592
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 11: No, you on that, but you get there, because that's it.

593
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 11: That's literally it that's my answer. Okay, that's my answer.

594
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 11: That's my answer.

595
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, I am going.

596
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 12: Yes, I'm going to fuck Campy in a song that

597
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 12: celebrates the ship out of me. Absolutely when I've been

598
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 12: mocked for fu twenty fuck years.

599
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: Passed. So I hear, I'm so.

600
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 14: I guess the on I will say to that, and

601
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 14: that's not You're not gonna double shade it. Michael Jackson's

602
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 14: over there. Oh my god, this is good. You can't

603
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 14: double a big double shaded.

604
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: That's rue. Take it off. You can't do that, Joe,

605
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: go ahead of finished finish. No, I'm not in this.

606
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 10: Don't look at it. Yeah, I like it, but arguing too.

607
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 10: So I don't want nothing to do with the one

608
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 10: B one because.

609
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 13: This is you know, actually, I would pull back to

610
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 13: I don't want to interrupt your exchange.

611
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: This ain't my fight. I yield. She got it.

612
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 9: I think I think the point she made was valid,

613
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 9: and I think she's standing in what she's standing in.

614
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 9: And she said that she got a lot of disrespect

615
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 9: over the twenty years of her career, right and when

616
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 9: she's being praised, even if it's at the detriment and

617
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 9: anybody else she's going to take.

618
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 11: It, but it's not at the detriment.

619
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Speaker 12: And then furthermore, when I leaned into it, when I

620
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 12: made my own little video, I cut out the quote

621
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 12: unquote disrespectful part I did intentionally.

622
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 7: Let me ask you a question.

623
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 8: Do you know that he has a history of using

624
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 8: women to get at other men?

625
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: Do y'all know? Y'all pressed me about this already.

626
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 7: That's why I said.

627
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

628
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 7: I don't talking is not what I think.

629
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: All right, So let me let me let you guys

630
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: in on some inside baseball at this point. Right, so,

631
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: Joe Budden is doing what's called consumer facing. What's happening

632
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: here is everyone in the room knows Joe is feeling

633
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: a way about this press release. And we'll get to

634
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: why here in a second. Number two, Everyone except Mail

635
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: and maybe even Mail knows Joe feels a way about

636
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: her embracing Drake as he steps in and tries to

637
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: divide the pie. Now, her doing this speaks to the public,

638
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 4: and Joe understands this. On top of that, industry insiders

639
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: understand this, and that's what Joe knows, and you're about

640
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: to see him go to another level. As it pertains to.

641
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: I caught what you're doing. We're gonna get into why

642
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: he's upset about the press release. Pay attention, and.

643
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 12: I'll be completely honest, I had before I came up here,

644
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 12: and even while I was up here, I had no

645
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 12: fucked clue what their history was.

646
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 11: I had no clue. I did not know.

647
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 12: And so to answer that other question you just asked me,

648
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 12: do I know that he has a history of using

649
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 12: blah blah blah. No, because I have never paid that

650
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 12: close attention. I have never noticed. No, because no, you

651
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 12: know what I'm saying, I've never noticed. So this was

652
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 12: like to me, it just seems like some silly, superficial ship.

653
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 12: Really honestly, you know what I mean. Play with words, yeah,

654
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Speaker 12: and then to all to just follow it up with

655
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Speaker 12: the fact that it's a song praising me when I

656
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 12: have had a song mocking me and people say this

657
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Speaker 12: ship to me for the last twenty Yes, I bess.

658
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Speaker 7: I was saying that.

659
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Speaker 3: They can play around all they want.

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Speaker 10: They learn them two being carried away to uh, what's

661
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Speaker 10: Jim Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: M DCA take you over to.

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Speaker 11: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Just don't say no more.

665
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Speaker 4: Don't don't do nothing already got.

666
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Speaker 8: Don't don't dat meth, don't play along with that.

667
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Speaker 3: You're on one case already and your reactions what holy

668
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Speaker 3: pig feed man man? Help? Did I get my chops

669
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Speaker 3: into this? Smell for you? Anyway? That time? My bee,

670
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: my beef is who wrote this thing? You don't have

671
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Speaker 3: to answer that answer. I know she did.

672
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Speaker 8: I think mail is articulately enough.

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Speaker 7: That's not the question.

674
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Speaker 3: Write this definitely they didn't write it either.

675
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Speaker 11: He doesn't.

676
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Speaker 3: I don't want to answer.

677
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 8: I'm going to answer.

678
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Speaker 3: Okay, tell that person to not write about me or

679
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: my company? Why because I asked?

680
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Speaker 11: We're writing?

681
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 12: Okay, hold on a second, here, wait a minute, because

682
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 12: we have bt S that is out on Patreon where

683
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 12: it's a whole discussion about that website and my image

684
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 12: on it. Furthermore, more information is found out by Ian

685
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 12: from Tyler that they bought the name and that it

686
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 12: gets rewroted to your Patreon.

687
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 11: We have have to we discuss it up here. So

688
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 11: it's in there, it's out there, it's out there in

689
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Speaker 11: the ether.

690
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Speaker 3: It's me, which it was never which was never in

691
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Speaker 3: question in question.

692
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Speaker 12: Everybody else can have conversations about this. But I can't

693
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 12: just succinctly say in a show of support, this is

694
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 12: what my team members did for me as a as

695
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 12: a way of saying thank you publicly.

696
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Speaker 3: You can if you tell me that that's you just said.

697
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 11: It, it is me that said it. So you wrote this, yes,

698
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Speaker 11: never mind, does it say Melissa's statements.

699
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Speaker 10: I know you didn't write this, but if you if

700
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 10: you rolling with that, then I'm chev. If you wrote it,

701
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 10: then yes, you could say that. If you wrote it,

702
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 10: then nip it in the butt and me bringing up

703
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 10: a publicist, then I'm wrong. There is no publishers.

704
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Speaker 11: There literally, there is no publicist. There is no publicist.

705
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 11: I am a self funded fucking operation. Right now, you

706
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Speaker 11: think you think I can afford.

707
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Speaker 3: P R with all for just when this camera cut off, I'm.

708
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 11: Not even right now came off camera. Now, you don't

709
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 11: need to up.

710
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 8: The statement After you wrote, Did you send it to

711
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Speaker 8: anybody to proof read, to check in? Did Ian make

712
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Speaker 8: any edits?

713
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 15: Yes?

714
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Speaker 3: I got you in fired.

715
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Speaker 11: No, No, and actually he said the same thing that

716
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Speaker 11: you did about job might be uncomfortable with the mention

717
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 11: of him. Blah blah blah. So I rewrote we rewrote

718
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 11: the whole thing in my me and my EP.

719
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Speaker 7: Okay, so this is state this.

720
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Speaker 3: This was as follow up questions.

721
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 8: So you ian and your EP crafted this statement or or.

722
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 11: Then I went back in and I rewrote it completely differently.

723
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 13: Got it based on the feedback of them I got.

724
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Speaker 13: I got just where he's the hero, understood what.

725
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 3: It's good for you? Everybody?

726
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 6: The original what.

727
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 8: The original draft?

728
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 11: It just mentions. Uh, it's just a mention of where

729
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Speaker 11: I work.

730
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 8: Well, I guess I'm saying, what was the part that

731
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Speaker 8: needed to be taken out to make.

732
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Speaker 3: Him look like a hero?

733
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Speaker 11: Nothing?

734
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Speaker 8: It was it was adding understood. So you just anything bad?

735
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Speaker 8: You just add something good?

736
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Speaker 13: Yes, because when I hear the state the reason I

737
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 13: asked us, when I hear the statement, it sounds honestly

738
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Speaker 13: and I mean it sincerely.

739
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Speaker 3: It sounds like a big up to JVP. So that's

740
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Speaker 3: why I was yes, Yeah.

741
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Speaker 7: But he can I have two questions yeah, yes.

742
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Speaker 3: Question one is, don't be stressed.

743
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Speaker 4: You're doing good.

744
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to trust.

745
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 16: When you move on to me, I ask please, another

746
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 16: kid comes into my short great call back, go ahead,

747
00:38:59,320 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 16: did he did?

748
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Did anybody did?

749
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Speaker 15: End?

750
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Speaker 7: I guess see it again after.

751
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Speaker 11: The rewrite, not necessarily yes. I basically showed him what

752
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 11: the paragraph was.

753
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 12: Going to say, and then he said, okay, fine, because.

754
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Speaker 4: I asked that because if he told you, Joe, probably no.

755
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Speaker 12: When I was making it clear, when I was making

756
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Speaker 12: it clear that it was it was it was a

757
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 12: response to all the noise, and that I wanted it

758
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 12: to be clear what had happened with the website with

759
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 12: the domain name and where it was redirected.

760
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 11: That was where he was like, oh, okay.

761
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Speaker 4: Fine, Oh this is about to get interesting.

762
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Speaker 3: You gout.

763
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Speaker 4: So for those who are not paying attention, there's a

764
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: lot of virtue signaling happening in real time. And that

765
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: clip that we just watched, I'm not sure if you

766
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: guys are able to see it on YouTube. Melissa Ford

767
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: basically explaining that Joe Budden as he's acting like he

768
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: has no clue that his business partner was involved in craft.

769
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Speaker 4: In his press release that was released to the public,

770
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Speaker 4: and they started with Tasha Kate, this press release read,

771
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Speaker 4: and of course I'm paraphrasing, so this is not verbatim,

772
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: this is not word for word, but it was the

773
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: sentiment was basically that over the last couple of days,

774
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Speaker 4: Drake has celebrated me in a song called give Me

775
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: a Hug. While she appreciate that he bigs up, she

776
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: mentions that he is selling a hoodie with hug And

777
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: this is where it gets sticky, And this is where

778
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: all industry inside to say something's going on. And we're wondering,

779
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: is she pandering, is she virtue signaling. We're trying to

780
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 4: figure out what it is. Clearly, they don't make a

781
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: lot of money as co hosts over there. That's just

782
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: clear to everyone in the business. Maybe not to the fans,

783
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: but the people in the business. They don't make a

784
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: shit ton of money as being co host over there.

785
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 4: But she basically spoke to Joe Budden's team figured out

786
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: understand that this is going in the press release is

787
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 4: very intentional, and I know that Joe knows that his

788
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: company had a hand in this because they know that

789
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 4: they're people like me in the industry. They're saying, I

790
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: know they didn't. I know they didn't just going by

791
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: url that celebrated Melissa Ford and re routed it to

792
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: a show that she has nothing to do with that

793
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: is already successful. What level of greed is that what

794
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 4: level of greed is that. I couldn't imagine if Complex

795
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: did that the Joe Budden, how he would feel and

796
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: the narratives he would craft surrounding that. And because he

797
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: knows that, that's why you see him reacting in a

798
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: way he's reacted. So when she mentions in the press release, hey,

799
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: Joe Budden and his team bought the URL that Drake

800
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: put on the merch that had my face on it

801
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: and routed it to his paid subscription Patreon that I

802
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 4: have no ownership in. Then they made a fix it,

803
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: and then they re routed it to my YouTube page.

804
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Joe Budden. The press release did

805
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: not need to be put out. And how do I

806
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: know Ian knew about the final version, Well, because Ian

807
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: is the person who's going to service it to the blogs.

808
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: It was gonna be blasted out and according to Melissa Ford,

809
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 4: they started. Now let's unpack a few more things that

810
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: was mentioned him. Melissa Ford mentioned that she rewrote this

811
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: press release with the help from Joe Budden's business manager

812
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: in a way that will make him look like the hero.

813
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent her virtue signal. If Joe Budden

814
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: paid a pretty penny. Then I would imagine that these

815
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: scenarios wouldn't even be When someone like Drake simultaneously highlights

816
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, when someone like Drake highlights Melissa Ford while

817
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: simultaneously dismissing Joe Budden, which just so happens to be

818
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: her boss, I think she understands that there's a clear

819
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: line in the sand. Now, the public just saw this

820
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: as a very light headed Now some of the miss now,

821
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: some of the casual fans, and this is what En

822
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 4: was hoping. But the consumer ad is way too smart.

823
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: The consumer is too small for the Shenanigans from the

824
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: nineties and the early two thousands. The consumers just way

825
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: too smart. So with this press release, Joe understands this.

826
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: Not sure about En. I think Ian understands it too.

827
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: That's why they didn't continue to blast it out, because

828
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense. You just draw attention to it.

829
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: While some of the public saw a lighthearted flattery and

830
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: the press release, insiders recognized that it was underhanded routing

831
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: of a URL. This is a calculated business maneuver that

832
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 4: few outsiders understood, and so when they talked about it

833
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 4: on Patreon, this is what I tell y'all. The devil

834
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: was in the details. Following that, Joe asked her to

835
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: stay home for about three four episodes. And so this

836
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: isn't a mind of misstep. And I want people to

837
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 4: know something. I want to be clear. This isn't that

838
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: Joe Budden creators come to love that was leading away.

839
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: He's a shell of himself. He's using every tactic he

840
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: learned along the way against the very people that's helping

841
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: him build his business. And I think part of it

842
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: is that, right, you know, how as a child you

843
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: mad about the being quote unquote strict, and then you

844
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: become the parent and you become quote unquote strict. It

845
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: seems to be he's now the parent in this scenario.

846
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: But I would ask Joe, I would ask Inn, I

847
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: would ask their entire business, like, what does it mean

848
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: when the very platform that's supposed to celebrate Melissa Forward's

849
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: image re routes her recognition to a show she doesn't own,

850
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: that's already paid, performing, productive, and successful. They reroute her

851
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,479
Speaker 4: recognition to the Joe Budden universe. And so my question

852
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: is its supporter is a subversion because what could happen

853
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: is that say weamele it didn't make any money. Wamele

854
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: in no one signed up. I mean it was a

855
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: dumb move all well around, because it opens us up

856
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 4: to legal scrutiny. Y'all want to addit them for every

857
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: sign up that happened that the six months following that

858
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: their hoodie kept selling that song was number one.

859
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 5: Like it.

860
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: It just opens you up to a lot of nonsense.

861
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: Why would you reroute it because you're greedy? Simple? What's

862
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 4: interesting is that in this business people will claim the

863
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: more high ground and they'll be implementing the same tactics

864
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 4: that they openly criticize. Costs. Hell at the great company

865
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 4: of Spotify, ta down Complex and then run your company

866
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 4: worse than Spotify and worst than Complex. For the creator

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00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: picture that Joe Budden in complex situation, Complex already had

868
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: a relationship with Spotify. They just had a show that

869
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: was doing well. In the same way, he has a

870
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: host that's doing well. He don't want to up their pay,

871
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying. So he's guarding the same

872
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: goal posts that Complex was guarded. So for people who

873
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 4: don't know Joe Budden, when he was signed the Complex

874
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 4: with Academics, they had a show they ended up having

875
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: turnoire internal with the company because what because Spotify stepped

876
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: in and wanted to sponsor the show, or Nike man

877
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 4: stepped in and asked, hey, can they wear these shirts?

878
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 4: These are relationships that Complex has already had. What you

879
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 4: don't know is that the Complexes of the world, the

880
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: Ihearts of the world, the Spotify's of the world, the

881
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: Apples of the world, the Bets of the world, the

882
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: Netflix of the world. They have what's called sales teams,

883
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: and so when they do get a piece of content,

884
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: they can monetize it to the highest extent. And so

885
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: Complex had already had all of these relationships. They just

886
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: had one of their shows that was doing pretty well.

887
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: So they try to integrate the Spotify situation and Joe says, no,

888
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 4: I'm bringing Spotify. I brought Spotify. They only here because

889
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: of me, And he went off and in turn ruined

890
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: that relationship for a couple of years and made that

891
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: show disappear. The show ended up. Academics try to hold

892
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 4: it up, and then it ended up. Just imagine if

893
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: one of those companies were the rerouted recognition that was

894
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 4: meant for Joe Budden to Joe Rogan's show it was like, well,

895
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: it's still in the Spotify subdivision. Because that's the argument

896
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: that E and them have is like you work for us, Well, no,

897
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 4: I'm a subcontractor. That y'all barely pay, that y'all over talk,

898
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: and that y'all do a twenty V one Like I'm

899
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: saying if she en up feelings like she can feel

900
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: that waistline. And of course I know more than I'm saying,

901
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 4: because I'm a player, right, I don't got it right,

902
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say too much, but I'm a player.

903
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: I used to I used to enjoy some of those conversations,

904
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: like about the business. I have them still, right, and

905
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: I think it makes me more valuable because everyone is

906
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: just exhausted, They burnt out. They no longer have any

907
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: direction in that conversations, any passion in that conversations. And

908
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 4: Joe Budden, you know, as it pertains to the content world, right,

909
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: I'm not speaking about his personal life, but as it

910
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 4: pertains to his space in the culture. He was right

911
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 4: on the cuffs of trying to be revolutionary as a creator,

912
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 4: and it feels like he's been regulated. The money is regulated,

913
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: and he's morphed into the machine. You know Melissa fod

914
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: wanted to, if nothing else, capitalize off of it, like

915
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: you if you do know some of the tricks of

916
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: the trade. Right, let's say you do know that trick.

917
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: Let's say you do. No Drake put that out. We

918
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: know Mail isn't getting paid off the picture because he

919
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: hasn't reached out to Mail. So if listen for it

920
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: works for me and I own the Joe Budden podcast,

921
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 4: and I see Drake drop a piece of merch that

922
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: has her face on it, I'm the big dog. I'm

923
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 4: making plenty of money. I'm already knowing Drake ain't sent

924
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: her no money. I would have re routed it to

925
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 4: her YouTube to begin with. Then came on the Patreon

926
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 4: and clown Drake about damn, you ain't sending no bread

927
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: or nothing. You're doing good over there. You showing people

928
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 4: like I would have tried to play him like he

929
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: was broke or or losing his income was running out,

930
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: even though we know that ain't the case. That would

931
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: have been a better narrative than switching it on her.

932
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 4: It's always internal, and so then you have to question

933
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 4: is it supportive or is it exploredive? Because these things

934
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 4: can feel the same way long as you being paid.

935
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: Is it supportive? Is it the explore them? Because it

936
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 4: seemed like Joe Budden don't want none of these plans

937
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: to grow, And because y'all see it look like he

938
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 4: watered in the plants, you don't really understand what's happening.

939
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: So let me explain something to you. There's a way

940
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: the water plants in a way where you damage the

941
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 4: plant to make sure it don't grow. If you put

942
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: hot water. If you try to water the plants with

943
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 4: hot water, you can damage the plants. And if you

944
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 4: view on me from afar, if you had limited understanding

945
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: even to that concept, all you see is me doing

946
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: what you consider is feeding the sore. You don't know

947
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: that I'm doing that because I know your expectations is

948
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 4: to see me walk over there and feed the plant.

949
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: But I'm really going over there with hot water to

950
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 4: make sure they don't grow past where I need them

951
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 4: to be, to make sure I pluck them. I think

952
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 4: another point and then we'll move on. Another point about

953
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: this is Joe also asks that no one mentioned his

954
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: name outside of the show, So imagine working on the show,

955
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: not being able to make a lot of money at

956
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: the show. If I get any recognition, they'll rerouted to

957
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: the Joe Buden subdivision. So everything that I am outside

958
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 4: of the show, they want to contribute to the show.

959
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: But then when I leave the show, leverage the show

960
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 4: for anything. Why is that the case where usually that's

961
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 4: the case when no one is allowed to have individual success,

962
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 4: but the CEO, I mean, it's easy for me to

963
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: say because I don't have a co host, but it

964
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 4: feels like that it ain't. It's only enough for one

965
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: sheriff in time. And so when that's the case and

966
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: you have a show that only one man, feels as

967
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: though I can shine off this show. But y'all hold

968
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 4: it down, y'all'll Bill looked quiet. But you got to

969
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: be a master manipulator to be able to run that

970
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: show called the Joe Button Podcast. Have people happy to

971
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 4: sit there with no equity being paid. Of course, a

972
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 4: lot of people trade money for service, So I get that,

973
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: that's fine. You got to be a master manipulator to

974
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: be able to build this show off of collaboration, but

975
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 4: at the same time make it where you are the

976
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: only one that can experience individual will success. That's a man,

977
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: that's a mean game plan. So what did we learn?

978
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 4: This fallout forces fundamental friction in the founding. So while

979
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: people felt the part of a fraternity with Melissa for it,

980
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: maybe it was all a facad. Gotta be careful when

981
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 4: you have outsiders trying to reach into the like I

982
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 4: don't like that either, I tell my woman. Compliments are calculator.

983
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 4: Don't never get that confused. Compliments are calculated, baby, Like

984
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 4: you can pull up at the store in the neighborod

985
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: big money.

986
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 15: What you doing?

987
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 4: Boy, you've been kidded. I just watched this shit. Right,

988
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: you got fired on? Let me get fired on. Boy,

989
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: you're looking good out here. You come and ask for

990
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 4: something right that compliment. So, in closing on the Joe

991
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 4: Budden and Melissa for scenario, Drake shot him Melissa Ford

992
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: out in a song while simultaneously dismissing and speaking to

993
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: him with the derogatory language, basically saying, Yo, Melissa for

994
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: you a legend. I hate to see you with that

995
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 4: dick sucker, calling Joe Budden, of course, the dick sucker.

996
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: He then proceeds to drop a piece of merch. That

997
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 4: merch has a URL on that it's a ghost you

998
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 4: r L Joe Budden and his team figures out it's

999
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 4: a ghost you are l They reroute the recognition meant

1000
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 4: for Melissa Ford into the Joe Budden universe behind a

1001
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: paywall for a show that already is mega successful, and

1002
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: then leave Melissa Ford on the outside wondering what it made,

1003
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 4: what it called, what happened? They did end up rerouting

1004
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: it to Melissa Ford's YouTube. I still spoke to the

1005
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 4: day that I think that this was an overreach. It

1006
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: was encroachment, and Joe Budden cannot stand on the more

1007
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: high ground of creator land. He's been co opted. It's

1008
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 4: an inconsistent message to the creators. You know, I'm I'm

1009
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: playing King Mega still right. I haven't morphed into the

1010
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: machine just yet, and so these corporate tactics still do

1011
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: rub me the wrong way. He wants her to ruin

1012
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 4: our relationships. Melissa Ford wants to have a career outside

1013
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: of the Joe butdon podcast when she leaves the Joe

1014
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 4: Buden podcast, and also the people that works for him

1015
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 4: understands he's now morphed into the machine. When you go

1016
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: from a path final to a gate keeper, used to

1017
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 4: be a key maker, then you're a kingmaker. You know,

1018
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: he wants Melissa Ford to ruin her relationships, but she

1019
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 4: wants a career. When he gets in his feelings and

1020
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: says he don't want to do the Joe Buddon Podcast

1021
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: no more, she don't want to ruin a relationship. She understands,

1022
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: hopefully that the compliment was a conduit to a conversation

1023
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 4: that would allow for division inside of the Joe Button Podcast.

1024
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: But while some people seeing her leaning into the Drake

1025
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: situation as her embracing her independence, I kind of seen

1026
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: it as virtue signaling. I think every industry inside of

1027
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: sees that she's virtue signaling. At this point, something is

1028
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: off the hinges over the the Joe Button Podcast.

1029
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 17: Man.

1030
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: But you know, I think again, he's positioned himself for

1031
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: a long time to be on the side of the creator,

1032
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: and it's not a good feeling. It hurts us to

1033
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: see go from raging against the machine to helping the

1034
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: machine rage. If I'm being honest, Joe wanted her to

1035
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: handle that a certain way. She didn't handle it that way.

1036
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: So now he's gonna handle every situation moving forward with

1037
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: her even worse than he's been handling it before. As

1038
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 4: you see, I guess there's some issue with her in

1039
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: another podcast to I guess he's fueling that. But Melissa

1040
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 4: can't say nothing because you lean into the Drake thing.

1041
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: So when I repost the girl who is dissing you,

1042
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: or I say she's fire, or I give her some shine,

1043
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: not bleep her name, say her name on the show,

1044
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 4: you really can't say anything because that's what you did

1045
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: with the Drake situation. So I truly believe that's how

1046
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: he feels, and I think he's standing on that. Before

1047
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: we get out of here today, I know we just

1048
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: talked about the Joe Butten thing. Before we get out

1049
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 4: of here today, I do want to look at one

1050
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 4: more video because I'm gonna check out on this brick baby,

1051
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: big you whack one hundred loose cannon, all of that

1052
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 4: sixty shit on the West Coast. I'm gonna check out

1053
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 4: of that, and I'm gonna get back to like business

1054
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: stuff and other topics right within the show. So I

1055
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: just want to be clear with y'all about it, unless

1056
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: some recent development is just pertinent information that needs our commentary,

1057
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, as far as this, I'm really gonna check

1058
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 4: out of it. It's not something that I want to

1059
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: spend a lot of more time on it. I feel

1060
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: as though if you listen to my coverage on it

1061
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: over up until this point, you should be able to

1062
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: get enough good game information and instruction and you should

1063
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: leave that inform thats to what they're facing, how it happened,

1064
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: and what's going on. But before we leave, I do

1065
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 4: want to take a look at this video that we

1066
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: did see a clip of it early in the show.

1067
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: This is when Brick Baby and It's Got Louise Cannon

1068
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 4: finally met up face to face. Louce Cannon was just

1069
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 4: running with Whack one hundred. Rope brought them together in

1070
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 4: this moment. One hundred. He has a crew called Exposes.

1071
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: These Exposed guys were online running some content about an

1072
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: unsolved murder involving allegedly they claim Big U. Turns out

1073
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: that murder is in the paperwork. They said that they

1074
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 4: spoke to the family. The family let them know whole

1075
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: bunch of details that was involved with that murder case, right,

1076
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 4: and so they brought it to the internet. These are

1077
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: the tactics. I'm telling you that it's digital war that

1078
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 4: you in and so when they bring it to the internet,

1079
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: ruins Wax and Loose Cannon's relationship. Loose Cannon seems to

1080
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 4: not be able to operate a loan, so he wants

1081
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: to hook with someone, and so him and brick Baby

1082
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: ended up meeting up. And so what we're about to

1083
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 4: watch this? Brick Baby as he and Adam twenty two said,

1084
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: there with Loose Cannon on the phone, and they just

1085
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 4: hollering about some gangster street bulldshit. Told that they shouldn't

1086
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 4: even be speaking about. Now. The environment that is created

1087
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: here is interesting. Adam twenty two is running a scenario.

1088
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 4: What the closer you get to him, maybe the more

1089
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 4: opportunity you get, or maybe the more money you make.

1090
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but there seems to be an incentive

1091
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 4: in these gang bangers eyesight when they look at Adam,

1092
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: so they want to like peacock against each other. He's

1093
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: not like that. I'm like that, Oh you think he's

1094
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: like that. I'm like that, Like it's a weird thing

1095
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 4: that they're doing. I'm like, what are they doing? The

1096
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 4: only person need know you like that? It's the people

1097
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: that violate this shit. You violate this shit, you gonna

1098
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: find out quickly who liked that. But if you don't

1099
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 4: never violate this shit, man, Let it stay in question.

1100
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: So Brick trying to reign supreme at no Jumper. You

1101
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 4: gotta remember they were already pivoting for Extra against Brick.

1102
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: So the scenario is your Brick, your profile is lowering

1103
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 4: because four Extra is here. His shit is skyrocketing, and

1104
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: Brick gotta tell him, no, I crashed out in it

1105
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: with a million views. Nigga, the crash out went viral.

1106
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: This went viral. We did the booker. Booker went viral.

1107
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: He started to lean in the bullshit just to try

1108
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: to get the numbers. He even put the crash shout

1109
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: as part of his accolades when he knew his decision

1110
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: making had collapsed in that moment. That's the same crash

1111
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: out that's in his federal indictment. But yet he would

1112
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: wear it as a badge of honor because Adam twenty

1113
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 4: two will look at it and say, oh, yeah, you

1114
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: did go viral three times this year. That ain't an

1115
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 4: even swamp. So what we're about to look at is

1116
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: one of the altercations. Because if we're being clear in

1117
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: the statement of facts on the federal bond packaged that

1118
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: the federal government placed up. Both scenarios where they break

1119
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: baby saying something on the camera was at no Jumping,

1120
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 4: And it was both times where Adam was on camera

1121
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 4: and loose Cannon was involved. So sometimes you're in a

1122
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: proxy one. You don't understand that. So I want us

1123
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: to look at this and counter pay attention to this.

1124
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 4: You're a bit made. Oh you get what I'm saying?

1125
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: Like why bit makes all the calls? Do you hear

1126
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: the podcast? She was at academic? How do you out

1127
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 4: the building?

1128
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 18: Just imagine have to send across from him every Tuesday.

1129
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 4: You don't think Loose is a good podcast. Look you

1130
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: see how it even starts, and we're going to get

1131
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 4: into it. I don't mean to stop it so quickly,

1132
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: but you see how it even starts. Loose is a

1133
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: good podcast. Why we even talking about this? We're on

1134
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: the show. We got topics to talk about this shit

1135
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 4: going on in the world. You don't think Loose a

1136
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 4: good podcast? Oh man? And now I gotta Disloose because Nah,

1137
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 4: I'm the big crip on campus. Nigga, ain't no loose Cannon.

1138
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: Don't invite another op up here. You already got whack

1139
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: up here. I got a ducky dodge around him. You

1140
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 4: had to d w nigg I got into it with

1141
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: I got into it with foe estra yo, what you

1142
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: own up here? So he's trying to stop before it

1143
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: even start. Now he's trying to be proactive instead of reactive.

1144
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: So he finds himself in a scenario to tell no

1145
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 4: jumper hey. And this is at the beginning of the conversation.

1146
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: Don't even consider which Adam was never considering this. Let

1147
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 4: me be clear with y'all. This is just a game,

1148
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: the same game you see Joe play, the same game.

1149
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: You see a lot of these content guys play.

1150
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: Right.

1151
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 4: What happens is they need content, They need narrative storyline.

1152
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 4: It has to be entertaining. That's just how it is.

1153
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 4: So Adam is in that positioning like you don't think

1154
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: I should have hire louse cannon yo, While I'm at

1155
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: the tip top beef and this nigga just beat somebody

1156
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: up and we probably see each other and somethmer happen.

1157
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 4: You gonna play that game too, pay attention, suck.

1158
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 6: Lose like, but.

1159
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 7: People, I want to see people die. I want to

1160
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 7: see bodies.

1161
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 18: You ain't never killed ships, you from somewhere. Man, let's

1162
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 18: be real you with you. Did I grow up in

1163
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 18: a set? You didn't do that of that? And you

1164
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 18: are living off of your bitch. He gets it the

1165
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 18: allowance from his bitch. You not even breaking on that bit,

1166
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 18: Like dude, you can never tell me nothing. You're you're

1167
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 18: a bit bide and you're a bit maide. You get

1168
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 18: what I'm saying? Like what bitch makes all the calls?

1169
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 18: Do you hear the podcast? She was an academic selling them. Now,

1170
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 18: that's not what it like, Shut the funk up? You

1171
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 18: never heard of that episode?

1172
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 7: Is that a good one? I'm just saying the clip.

1173
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 19: And she was.

1174
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 4: She was in that like no, it was there, like, man,

1175
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: I'm on the podcast.

1176
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 17: Shut the I'm not gonna lie to you made and

1177
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 17: bid is insane.

1178
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 7: He turned into a bitch, is may.

1179
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: Yo.

1180
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 7: But I got to say though that.

1181
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 20: So I was supposed to interview Loose on Tuesday, like

1182
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 20: they was supposed to be like bringing back up like

1183
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 20: significantly before this, so that we would have time to

1184
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 20: clear the premises and make sure there was not any

1185
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 20: overlap between the Brickman and.

1186
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: The Loose guy.

1187
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 21: But they're not like us, Okay, But he showed up

1188
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 21: like thirty deep. To be totally fair, no sixties. I

1189
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 21: don't know where these guys came from. I don't know

1190
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 21: who most of them were. But that was a little

1191
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 21: bit of a thing. There's a lot of people who

1192
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 21: got new bodyguard. It made a little bit of a scene.

1193
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 21: So I had to kind of shut it down on

1194
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 21: Tuesday and we had to run it back the next day.

1195
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 21: We did get it done, so I was happy about that.

1196
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 21: But yeah, definitely he tried. He tried to pull him.

1197
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 18: Up because I know he's going to be a rotator.

1198
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 18: Ask him who was involved with his poot on? Can

1199
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 18: he give us any names from his poot on? Can

1200
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 18: he give us what block he got put up? Let's

1201
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 18: get to the bottom of it. Yes, yes, we gotta

1202
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 18: find out who?

1203
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 4: What year was this? See? This is the ego, This

1204
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: is Brick's ego. Talking to him, Yes, call him? Who

1205
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 4: put you on? That ain't something me you and Adam

1206
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 4: got to talk about. But I need Adam to hear

1207
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: it because I'm trying to undermine this nigga. Don't bring

1208
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 4: this nigga around, man, we got real, it's real, it's

1209
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 4: really up with dude. Don't bring this dude around. That's

1210
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 4: what he's trying to fight for his position with the

1211
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: owner of the platform. It seems like that there's a

1212
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 4: revolving door with all of these shows in their co

1213
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: host and there's a constant proving grounds happening. There's a

1214
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: constant proving grounds happening, and in my opinion, that's what

1215
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: we're looking at. Pay attention, erring minds.

1216
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: This is crazy.

1217
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 7: I can't believe I'm doing this.

1218
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 18: I've never seen he at Hyde Park at a beating.

1219
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 18: I never seen you at fifty fourth Street, Horris.

1220
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 21: Hey, Luce Cannon, I'm here live on the No Drummer

1221
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 21: Show with brick Baby in Lush.

1222
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 7: Brig Baby is requesting some information regarding your put on.

1223
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 4: First thing he posed to say it is tell bring

1224
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 4: me me in the hood or call my phone. Why

1225
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 4: do we got Adam in the middle of this, and

1226
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 4: why do Adam want to be in the middle of this?

1227
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 4: And why is you on a camera on a phone

1228
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 4: like this? Yo, you got some responsibility in this, and

1229
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if someone held you accountable.

1230
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: Bro.

1231
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 4: I know ain't nobody telling you, but I'm gonna be

1232
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 4: the one to tell you if you think it's sweet,

1233
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 4: it ain't sweet. If you think that you get to

1234
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 4: just get away, you do not just get to get away.

1235
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 4: I want to be clear with that. Don't thank them

1236
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 4: dudes just laying around feeling a certain kind of way.

1237
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: Bro Adam, you don't get away with this kind of behavior.

1238
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: Somebody got somewhere feeling some kind of way about the

1239
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 4: role you played in this.

1240
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 7: Hey, can you give us like at least two names

1241
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 7: from you or put on in what blocks?

1242
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 4: Also brick baby gotta pay the pied piper, louse Canny

1243
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 4: gotta pay the pied piper. Them nigga, now, stupid them.

1244
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 4: Nigga went out stupid my nigga.

1245
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 18: They went out saying, I ain't never seen you at

1246
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 18: no meeting at Hyde Park, Horseman or at fifty fourth.

1247
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 15: When did you get put on? When did you get

1248
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 15: put on? I got put on in two thousand and two.

1249
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 15: I got put out of two thousand and two. Nigga

1250
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 15: on I lean street that June house, nigg You know

1251
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 15: what's up, nigga?

1252
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, dead hommy. So when you get put.

1253
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 18: On, man, because niggill Billy was a part of my

1254
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 18: put on. Killer Dave was a part of my put

1255
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 18: on nigga, Oh the Dead Homies. My first name was

1256
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 18: baby wild Bill nigg on the Dead Homies, an eusy

1257
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 18: turn East Coast.

1258
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 7: That was the third that got squabbled. Who did you squabble?

1259
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: Gang?

1260
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 7: I squabbled everybody Boo.

1261
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 15: You didn't squabble. Everybody did as nigga out. You would

1262
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 15: have went home fucked up. You didn't get put on.

1263
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 15: Bit Hey up, how you come up here with thirty niggas?

1264
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 15: None of them was from sixties.

1265
01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: Show?

1266
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 4: Again, this is just this is unprecedented. This is real

1267
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 4: life situations going on. You got two white me. Look

1268
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 4: at the white boys though I ain't even stunning bricking

1269
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 4: loose them niggas fast out they dawn. I'm looking at

1270
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 4: the white boys smoking cigarettes, and one of them with

1271
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 4: Adam just had a hair tread playing. They got these

1272
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 4: two nigga triggering them means.

1273
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 6: I got more shots than that in my car. You

1274
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 6: had thirty nigga.

1275
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 15: You were still twenty short nigga left all right? Rolland

1276
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 15: you talking about nigga nigga, Come on, cut, don't get.

1277
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 7: Your ship punkerheaded bitch, shut up a whole. When did

1278
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 7: you get put on?

1279
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 6: Were just asking the question.

1280
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 15: What dang what black you whole ass nigga shut you

1281
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 15: a big you put on nigga set up. Nig you

1282
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 15: was paying the big y shut up bitch. Yeah, you

1283
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 15: was paying.

1284
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 6: That's why you mannigg dead.

1285
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 15: I'm paying to come around Nigga on the hood, just

1286
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 15: like you got Conrad niggas a partner when he got out, bitch, and.

1287
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: He don't fuck with you, just like.

1288
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 7: You're still playing byer HER's backs.

1289
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 15: Nigga on it dad hummyes heint gonna drop that check

1290
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 15: off to my little hummy. Nigga hood get bad for you,

1291
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 15: shit get bad for you, Gonna drop that check OFFA

1292
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 15: if we do.

1293
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 7: Something to you, nigga bring you out hood. Could bet

1294
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 7: we do something to you.

1295
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 4: Now, we have to be realistic. All of this conversation

1296
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 4: is in the indictment. But I do think there's some

1297
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 4: truth into this because Louce Kenny used to hang with

1298
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 4: Big You and all of a sudden just got mad

1299
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 4: out of nowhere and stopped fucking with him. Seems like

1300
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 4: Brick has some information that maybe the rest of the

1301
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 4: world don't have. So he said, that's why you mad.

1302
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 4: You used to pay that Nigga, because why is he mad? Like,

1303
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 4: why did he just quit fucking with Big U or

1304
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 4: just start running with Whack one hundred and get on

1305
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 4: all these platforms and start just saying this crazy ass

1306
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 4: shit about Big U. You see what I'm saying. But

1307
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 4: this conversation they haven't gotta be one of the dumbest

1308
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 4: conversations in podcast history. This might go down as one

1309
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 4: of the dumbest conversations in podcast history. Matter of fact,

1310
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 4: somebody need to make a montage a company relation nick

1311
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: incriminating themselves so I can post it every day for

1312
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: two years straight.

1313
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet you ain't.

1314
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,479
Speaker 7: Hey, listen, cause what hood are you from?

1315
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 6: You ain't you ain't You ain't from sixty third?

1316
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 3: You ain't from right part?

1317
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,479
Speaker 7: You ain't from seventy first? Big what street you from?

1318
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 3: You ain't from? Or ten?

1319
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 6: What street do you mad?

1320
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 3: You sell?

1321
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 8: Put your put on?

1322
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 7: Who puts you on?

1323
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: All right?

1324
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 7: Thank you loose? We love you, sweetheart?

1325
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for that too.

1326
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 15: Sixty two only the dad armies you're looking for that

1327
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 15: two sixty We finna eat up again dad ms nigh.

1328
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 7: But because that's what you do, you pay.

1329
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 15: You're not a player, You're a payer, nigga, you take

1330
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 15: the l out of player and that you get loose coaching, Dad, Armies.

1331
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 7: Why your cannon loose?

1332
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 3: Hood?

1333
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 7: Why your cannon loose though?

1334
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 6: Why you want to have a loose cannon? Listen? Why

1335
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 6: you want to have a loose cannon? May shut your

1336
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 6: buster broken? As up on hood? You live up if

1337
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 6: you're a bitch, Hey, you live off the bitch. Nigga

1338
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:04,959
Speaker 6: on the hood.

1339
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 15: Joe bit at the bag, niggad let me go bank

1340
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 15: account for bank account right now.

1341
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 6: I'm a loge in the navy Federal Nigga on center.

1342
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 15: Screen shot from today though, Dad home, he set the

1343
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 15: screen shot for today.

1344
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 6: It's not, it's not.

1345
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,919
Speaker 15: That's what I'm saying. Gang, Come on, hey, little SCOOCHI

1346
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 15: what day you get put on?

1347
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 7: Ganger? When did you get put on?

1348
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 11: Nigga?

1349
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: When did you get put on?

1350
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 15: Two thousand and two on Ileen Avenue, Nigga? And I

1351
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 15: still was banging the set before that. I was baby

1352
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 15: yes down before that Nigga tenth Avenue, Nigga on six

1353
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 15: So I started gutter heels, Nigga talk Nigga. I started

1354
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 15: gutter heels Nigga. Was that slipt rock spot with seven

1355
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 15: eleven storty Nigga with gutter kids started, Nigga Dead Homies,

1356
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 15: Nigga Free Avenue Blue Nigga and.

1357
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 7: His blasted Nigga. Come on, bro, he Nigga, I got

1358
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 7: more murders than you got.

1359
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 15: Squabbles, bitch in the hood, Nigga's bigga. Yeahgigga got more

1360
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 15: skulls than you got squabbles.

1361
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 9: In the set.

1362
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 15: Ship on the hood, Nigga, befo, Hey, you I got

1363
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 15: more calls than you got squabbles. That's all my fault babies, Nigga. Listen, listen,

1364
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 15: that's all my fault babies. Nigga, that's all my fault babies.

1365
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 15: You ain't never got put on my hood.

1366
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 6: Trip on the hood. You paid Joe way on like

1367
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 6: love to it.

1368
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 7: That's why you host.

1369
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 15: Crying together nigga. Nigga, Nigga about getting extorted on the hood.

1370
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 15: Shut up, come around.

1371
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 11: Against this niggah.

1372
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 4: Listen to this ship crying about being extorted. He's saying,

1373
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 4: that's why Big you don't fuck with Brick because he

1374
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 4: was letting them nigga trick him. He would letting himself

1375
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 4: get emotionally charged up on their mother Internet and he

1376
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 4: was up there talking like this right here. That's why

1377
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 4: you ain't love joy Man. You were being extorted. Nigga,

1378
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 4: gotta pay the big homie. You know what I'm saying.

1379
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 4: He was just in a complete trick bag because they

1380
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 4: done raised baby and me feel like they're going against him.

1381
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 4: The Adam throwing it up and all these squall throwing

1382
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: it up like it's legit. He probably saying, brother, shit

1383
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 4: ain't hitting no nothing. And now look they got him

1384
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 4: in the middle of it and wide over it in

1385
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 4: the trick bag, wide open in the trick bag. Ship

1386
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: prothetic homes exposal.

1387
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 15: Man on the Dadmies, and I'm still here, nigga on

1388
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 15: the hood, and I'm still here.

1389
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 6: You want to pay for an interview? I mean sixty

1390
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 6: thousand from a hole like you?

1391
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 15: O hood, Nigga, you want to pay only dades you

1392
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 15: been paying pay for an interview?

1393
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 6: Nigga, he need you.

1394
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 15: I don't need nothing in this world but six others

1395
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 15: quite think like you out here.

1396
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 7: I keep blakes for.

1397
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 3: Niggas like you.

1398
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 4: You're too sweet to take ship.

1399
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: From nig like you.

1400
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 6: I don't need nothing but this blake.

1401
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be up nigga, we side.

1402
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 7: You can't do nothing. And hey, man, at this point,

1403
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 7: you know I bro you was a hole.

1404
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 15: Bro.

1405
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 19: Man, listen cause I told you to come on. I

1406
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 19: leag for two weeks tra you have never came back there.

1407
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 19: You know that back hood is too wicked.

1408
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 4: You know that backed You see them niggas just high

1409
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 4: five in the middle of these two black men going

1410
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 4: through a real talking about killing each other. These two

1411
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: black dudes talking about killing each other. Look what the

1412
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 4: white boys do on y'all stupid ass nigga. Then what

1413
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 4: I be saying, y'all nigga be dumnb is stupid. That

1414
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 4: why I'm gonna make all the money. You gonna be

1415
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 4: locked up, dead and skinned.

1416
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: Man.

1417
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 4: Check this here out, man, I.

1418
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 7: Told you to come on.

1419
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 19: I lean for two weeks straight. You have never came

1420
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 19: back there. You know that back hood is too wicked.

1421
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 4: This picture is said to me, Rayal Louce Cannon is

1422
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 4: hollering at the top of his lung brick Babies, clearly

1423
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 4: frustrating and mad. Upset both these two black dudes upset

1424
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 4: and the two white boys racking in the money. Lush

1425
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 4: is an employee, but Adam racking in the money and

1426
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: god damn it just hit a fist bump while you

1427
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 4: all get bout killing them man and fighting for your life.

1428
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 4: If you see this nigga and they fish bumping on

1429
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: y'all slow ass me.

1430
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 7: You know the back too wicked?

1431
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 4: Call you man, you know them?

1432
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 7: Here's to Wiggy.

1433
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 6: Hey, because there's no nigga ever knocked me out in

1434
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 6: my life. That's on West Side, Rolling sixty Crip game man.

1435
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 6: D W frame, what.

1436
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 10: Frame?

1437
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 6: What nigga? You ain't knocked me out? DW Frame? What Hey?

1438
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 19: On the dad?

1439
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 6: How is your best friends with a nigga?

1440
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: This the set?

1441
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,799
Speaker 7: This is sect twice the nigga you is, homie?

1442
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 6: You a bitch?

1443
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 7: Cause who you get put on body?

1444
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 4: That's the only man that we called for.

1445
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 7: Who you getting put on body?

1446
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 6: I didn't even want to be with you because only dad,

1447
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 6: You're nothing like me.

1448
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: I don't see.

1449
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 15: So I'm really that bro I'm really that nigga, Really

1450
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 15: that niggahood.

1451
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 7: Every time I got.

1452
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 6: Shot, I was in the hood club.

1453
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,879
Speaker 15: You have not been outside brood.

1454
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, check my resume and tell him I got a

1455
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 6: rest said I went to.

1456
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 4: Seventy seventh Street.

1457
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 15: Nigga you've never been there, bro, you got i e cases.

1458
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 15: What are we talking about when that you ever got

1459
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 15: activated in l A County jail. Yeah, mama isabit at

1460
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 15: this point. Shut up because your daddy's a snitch. Your

1461
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 15: mama's a bit sick, so yo, daddy's a snitchnig.

1462
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 8: Shut up.

1463
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 7: Your daddy's a snitch. That's why you was up here, snitchy. Yeah, yeah,

1464
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 7: all right, prove it.

1465
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: Prove it. Yeah, prove it.

1466
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 15: My mama is a millionaire. Niggad homies still rich off

1467
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 15: cocaine in the hood. You niggas talk about you see

1468
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 15: by fabigg.

1469
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 4: Crazy nigga aint crazy ship.

1470
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 7: Bro, you still didn't you talk? I got what ever

1471
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 7: about here today? Good talking all.

1472
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 4: Appreciate you, appreciate your man laughing, laughing. This is not

1473
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 4: a joke, and this is definitely not funny.

1474
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 17: Look, yeah, nigga, you're not from the Okay, unbiasedly, I'm

1475
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 17: gonna keep it a stack like unbiasedly, break one that

1476
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 17: exchanged by a significant margin, like no, like I have

1477
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 17: no horse in this race.

1478
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

1479
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 4: Break one is exchanged by a significant margin. Is what

1480
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 4: this white boy just said. When two black men were

1481
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: sitting there hollering about when I catch you, I'm gonna

1482
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 4: kill you. Exposing street secrets, shit that's supposed to be

1483
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 4: discussed offline in each other face. All my parts to

1484
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 4: tell you, I hit them. Hey, I need to get

1485
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 4: in your face. Brother, I'm finna pull up. We're gonna

1486
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: talk over the over the internet in front of these

1487
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 4: two dudes. So these is the judges say, Homie, you

1488
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 4: ain't qualified to be a judge. A big boy, white boy,

1489
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 4: you ain't qualified to be a judge, homie, And I

1490
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 4: like some of your takes, but you ain't qualified to

1491
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 4: be a judge. I'm the judge. They both lost. Fuck

1492
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 4: you mean brick baby want to buy a significant margin

1493
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 4: And he done spilled all this hood secrets, told that

1494
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 4: his mama rich off cocaine. Nigga told big you was

1495
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 4: extorting on here, and he done one. Now he been tricked.

1496
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: Niggay both lost. I keep telling you, Nick, you gotta

1497
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 4: wash the dice. All this shit is a gamble, boy,

1498
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 4: You better wash the dice. The dice is what's helping

1499
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 4: you make the money.

1500
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 7: Wash the dice.

1501
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 4: That's who you sign to, who you partnered with, who

1502
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 4: you in business with, the accountant, the lawyer, wash the dice. Yeah,

1503
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 4: we all want to make some money. Man, we gotta

1504
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 4: pay attention, though, brother, gotta pay attention. Head on the swivel,

1505
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 4: and you won't find yourself in a situation when now

1506
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 4: after he hangs up the phone and you've been arguing

1507
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 4: with a nigg has hood's secrets and y'all got four

1508
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 4: five thousand people watching live. Shit probably got three four

1509
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 4: hundred thousand views. Now to what you tell him, you

1510
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 4: got scores most goals, and he got bodies who put

1511
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: you on my mama rich off cocaine. You've been completely tricked.

1512
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 4: I might would have smacked one of them dudes. I

1513
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 4: might would have smacked this lush one when he said

1514
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 4: I won. I probably would have got him and beat

1515
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: the shit out of him, just because y'all hold them

1516
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 4: tricked me. Y'all got me and how to sit in

1517
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 4: the show. Cut this out, take that out. But it's

1518
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 4: gone now it's live, so it wouldn't have done no good.

1519
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 4: The ship is live. You got put in the trick

1520
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 4: bag and you lost. Both of them lost. So don't

1521
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 4: listen to these white boys. And this is what fuels it.

1522
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 4: This is the reward I speak about the incentive. I

1523
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 4: speak about the idea that they would get out of

1524
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 4: this calling. The immediate response from the co workers and

1525
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 4: the people from this platform is yo, you won that one.

1526
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 4: Both of them niggas.

1527
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 7: Hood out of Boogie Dell mo times and he didn't

1528
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 7: fucked my hood. Nick could have stopped playing with.

1529
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 17: Me, boy, he did, like Break asked a simple question

1530
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 17: to which there was no formative response, no response to that.

1531
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 7: So like unbiasedly break w I gotta admit, like in

1532
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 7: that exchange, we're not even the same type of person.

1533
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 7: That's what I'm trying to tell you.

1534
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 22: That was crazy, but content you want to content loose.

1535
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 22: You're not nothing like me. You couldn't sit here on Tuesday.

1536
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 22: What did you mean when you said that I got

1537
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 22: more skulls than you got squabbles?

1538
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 4: He say, you see, that's even more incriminate. Now watch this,

1539
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 4: you know what.

1540
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 15: Listen out in Buggie down more times than he fought

1541
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 15: in my hood.

1542
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 7: What are we talking about? He's saying in g g A,

1543
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 7: he's saying, let the people figure it out on the hood.

1544
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 3: Nigga.

1545
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 7: He said what I said?

1546
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 4: Nigga?

1547
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, there you say what I said? This demonic energy

1548
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 7: in this room.

1549
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1550
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 3: I want to be.

1551
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 7: That was the that that that's the breaking point right there.

1552
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1553
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 4: I'm not very sad, man. This is some sad ship

1554
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 4: that need opportunity that bad and they that uneducated to

1555
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 4: be able to be tricked into doing these things. Man,

1556
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 4: it's a lot of money being made, but it just

1557
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 4: ain't worth it. It ain't worth it in these scenarios, man.

1558
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 4: So again, I thank you guys for watching. I'll catch

1559
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 4: y'all on the next episode.