Speaker 1: Welcome into Buccaneers Insider Live, presented by Miller. Like Casey Phillips,
Speaker 1: here was senior writer and editor Scott Smith. And before
Speaker 1: we get to anything else, the most important thing to
Speaker 1: note today, it is Scott's thirtieth anniversary with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: I know that's the reason I surprised you with it
Speaker 1: is because I knew you would have all shucked it
Speaker 1: to where you would have wanted me to. But we
Speaker 1: have to celebrate that. Thirty years is incredible, So congratulations.
Speaker 1: I know everybody very much appreciates the work that you
Speaker 1: have done here for thirty incredible years. How does it
Speaker 1: How does it feel? Lucky? Yeah? Yeah, I never want
Speaker 1: to guess thirty years ago. Yeah. Two super Bowls and
Speaker 1: thirty years is not a bad Yeah, I'll stick around
Speaker 1: for fifteen more years. Gonna promised one more super Bowl? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that a lot of these
Speaker 1: people would promise just one more year that that that's
Speaker 1: what they'd be going for. So I think hopefully in
Speaker 1: fifteen they can make another one. All right? Well, next up,
Speaker 1: of we were at the owner's meetings, I know we
Speaker 1: originally thought we might still be there to do this show.
Speaker 1: But then the schedule got moved all around, so we
Speaker 1: ended up just being there for basically about twenty four
Speaker 1: hours and we got back last night. So we are
Speaker 1: back here. But what were some of the things that
Speaker 1: you felt like the takeaways of either new things that
Speaker 1: came out of the meetings or people that you got
Speaker 1: to hear from in terms of press scrums and meet
Speaker 1: and know Jason light and Joel Glazer both spoke, So
Speaker 1: what were some of the standout things for you on
Speaker 1: the bigger picture? I think the biggest topic that everybody
Speaker 1: was talking about going into the owners meetings that was
Speaker 1: going to be discussed was the possible rule change about
Speaker 1: overtime in the postseason, and heading into it, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of feeling that there was momentum for this,
Speaker 1: and of course the momentum really came from that Bill's
Speaker 1: Chiefs game in the playoffs last year. Whenever there's a
Speaker 1: big rule change like this, it usually comes from people
Speaker 1: feeling dissatisfied about some game, like when the Rams Saints
Speaker 1: game led to the brief dalliance with reviewable pass in
Speaker 1: affairs that didn't work out. I think this one is
Speaker 1: there was, like I said, there was a momentum that
Speaker 1: it would happen, but they weren't sure they had enough votes.
Speaker 1: Turns out they did, so the new rule for overtime
Speaker 1: in the postseason only is that each team is guaranteed
Speaker 1: a possession. That's it simple as that, which I I
Speaker 1: personally am a very big fan of. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you feel about that. I think that has become
Speaker 1: more fair now because, as as a lot of people
Speaker 1: have pointed out, since the last rules passed in two
Speaker 1: even just in the twelve years since then, offense has
Speaker 1: continued to explode. So you can have the person say, hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't like it with the one possession and
Speaker 1: the sudden death, then play defense. Well, you know it's
Speaker 1: harder to play defense now. And if you look at
Speaker 1: that chiefs um Bill's game in the playoffs last year,
Speaker 1: whichever team got the ball was probably gonna win that game.
Speaker 1: They scored on the previous five possessions. So um, I
Speaker 1: think I talked over the graphic that was up there
Speaker 1: for a while, but I was going to point out
Speaker 1: how since the that rule, the previous rule was made
Speaker 1: official for the post seat for the regular season in
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, where it's no longer sudden death unless
Speaker 1: the team that gets the first possession scores a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Since that happened, the Bucks have had ten game overtime
Speaker 1: games that you can see. It's kind of been sort
Speaker 1: of a mixed bag. But only one time did that
Speaker 1: rule actually helped the buccaneer Buccaneers, and three times they
Speaker 1: lost when the other team won the coin toss and
Speaker 1: they scored on the opening possession touchdown. So right now,
Speaker 1: this new rule isn't for the regular season, but maybe
Speaker 1: that'll come along in a couple of years and probably
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers would like it because the old rule didn't
Speaker 1: didn't really work out there will for us. Uh. You
Speaker 1: could see the different outcomes that happened, including that one
Speaker 1: game that they didn't know the pick six fifth possession
Speaker 1: touchdown too. That was the that was the Raiders game,
Speaker 1: and that was one of the games that led to
Speaker 1: the rule of switching the overtime from fifteen minutes down
Speaker 1: to just ten because that that overtime period took almost
Speaker 1: the entire fifteen minutes and I think the Bucks maybe
Speaker 1: played a Thursday game after that and that just exhausted.
Speaker 1: So that was one of the games that was the
Speaker 1: impetus for changing it from fifteen two. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: is such a great point about all the rules that
Speaker 1: have been put into place to help the offense, that
Speaker 1: they realized they want this to be an offensive game. Well,
Speaker 1: then it isn't exactly as even as you pointed, out
Speaker 1: of just one possession that we know that the league
Speaker 1: has really tried to favor the offense in some ways.
Speaker 1: And so that does seem like at least we should
Speaker 1: give both the chief That Chief's Bills game that went
Speaker 1: into overtime in the playoffs wasn't ten to seven, it
Speaker 1: was thirty six to thirty six. Because Patrick my Holmes
Speaker 1: and that offense and Josh Allen and that offense, we're
Speaker 1: putting on a show. And like I said, the five
Speaker 1: possessions combined between the two teams leaning up to overtime
Speaker 1: all ended in scores. So it's pretty easy to believe
Speaker 1: that whoever won the coin toss, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: they had a very good chance of scoring in touchdown,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened. And so Josh Allen never
Speaker 1: saw the field after throwing the tying touchdown pass, his
Speaker 1: last touchdown pass in the game. Well, our next topics
Speaker 1: for the day. We sort of hinted it and a
Speaker 1: little bit talked about last week that Will Golston and
Speaker 1: Logan Ryan additions to the team. That we said there
Speaker 1: was going to be a press conference later that day,
Speaker 1: it had not been officials, so we had to tap
Speaker 1: dance around that a little bit. But now, of course
Speaker 1: we know their officials. So let's start with Will Golston
Speaker 1: returning to the team and what you think this means
Speaker 1: to the organization, to this defense, and basically just I
Speaker 1: feel like we should have some Will Goalston appreciation time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Will Golston and the Buccaneers have proven to
Speaker 1: be a really good fit. And we're talking about a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick from two thousand thirteen basically heading into
Speaker 1: his ten season. That's that's a great career. And I
Speaker 1: think I threw it out there last year that other
Speaker 1: than Warren Stapped with the earned forty bill, Galston has
Speaker 1: started or played in more games for the Buccaneers has
Speaker 1: been any other defensive lineman. Born Stapp and he'll pass
Speaker 1: warn now that he's coming back, But I looked up
Speaker 1: some other stats about uh Will and he himself mentioned
Speaker 1: that he's been I don't remember the exact words he used,
Speaker 1: but he's basically been revitalized in Todd bowles Is defense.
Speaker 1: So Will has been a good role player for us
Speaker 1: throughout his career, but over the last three years, if
Speaker 1: you compare that to the three years before Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: got here, and then the last three years, you might
Speaker 1: think that since he's getting older, his production would go down,
Speaker 1: but look at that in most cases he's basically had
Speaker 1: double the production. The sacks are more than doubled, the
Speaker 1: quarterback hits are more than doubled. He's got more of
Speaker 1: everything in these past three years and Todd bowls of
Speaker 1: defense than he had in three years prior to that.
Speaker 1: And he's also not missed a single game when he
Speaker 1: had missed four in the previous three games. So everything
Speaker 1: about how he fits and Todd Bowles's defense has been
Speaker 1: a boon for Will, which in turn has been awesome
Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers. Obviously, Yeah, that's great to hear. And
Speaker 1: then also Logan Ryan Knew addition to the team. We
Speaker 1: focus so much these last two years on bringing people back,
Speaker 1: but now there are also a few new editions that
Speaker 1: I think that the team is very excited about and
Speaker 1: especially after losing Jordan Whitehead and free agency. So what
Speaker 1: have you learned from you know, since Logan Ryan did
Speaker 1: his UM press debut essentially with the Buccaneers, of what
Speaker 1: you think the team wants from him, is, you know,
Speaker 1: is he a true replacement for Jordan Whitehead? Could there
Speaker 1: be some other things he brings to the team that
Speaker 1: are a little bit different than what Jordan did And
Speaker 1: how do you see that working well? First of all,
Speaker 1: I think UM fans were really gonna like Logan Ryan
Speaker 1: because he was an entertaining guy up there at the
Speaker 1: table in the press conference, and I hear that's been
Speaker 1: the way he's been everywhere he's been. So But in
Speaker 1: terms of how he fits into the defense, he doesn't
Speaker 1: really know yet, not what they're gonna do with him,
Speaker 1: but I think it will probably kind of a versatile role.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a one form replacement with Jordan Whitehead,
Speaker 1: but he could factor in safety, he could factor in
Speaker 1: someone in the slot. He's really a guy that's played
Speaker 1: all over And the other thing is he's been very productive.
Speaker 1: One thing that um he talked about was he really
Speaker 1: he's good friends with Randie Barber and He's sought Randie
Speaker 1: Barber's mentorship in some issues like longevity. But um he
Speaker 1: by the way, he made a big fan of me
Speaker 1: when he said Ronnie Barber should be a first Billot
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Yeah. The big thing about Rande's career
Speaker 1: was the incredible stat lines he put up. You're like,
Speaker 1: interceptions in sacks, the only Guyan team in NFL history,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Well, Logan Ryan's production across the
Speaker 1: board has been pretty impressive since he came into the
Speaker 1: league in two thurs and thirteen. He has, as you
Speaker 1: see here, eighteen interceptions, thirteen sacks, and fourteen forced fumbles
Speaker 1: in that fan Now, nobody else can match that, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of arbitrary eighteen, thirteen, and fourteen. So I
Speaker 1: took them all down to ten. And even with only
Speaker 1: ten as the number you're trying to to hit in
Speaker 1: those three categories, these are the only guys and you
Speaker 1: see David up there. Yeah, but that's to be able
Speaker 1: to fill across the stat line with interception, sacks, force
Speaker 1: fumbles and the number of other things that aren't on
Speaker 1: the screen there. It's just a picture of a very
Speaker 1: productive player throughout the years. That is incredible. I think
Speaker 1: that's amazing. All right, Well, we are also going to
Speaker 1: get to some of your Facebook questions as always, so
Speaker 1: you can submit those in the comments section underneath our
Speaker 1: live video on Facebook. And I know that our first one, Um,
Speaker 1: I've seen this. This is so great. So Rick had
Speaker 1: a two two part question because he's making you think
Speaker 1: there's there's a couple of sections of this. They're they're
Speaker 1: both draft related. The first one is where we're picking,
Speaker 1: what are the position groups that you think we have
Speaker 1: the best chance of getting one of the top guys
Speaker 1: at that spot. Because I know we talked about the
Speaker 1: idea of best overall or this and that. But where
Speaker 1: you're picking, are you getting the first of a position?
Speaker 1: Are there already three or four guys off the board
Speaker 1: at that position? So where we're picking that late in
Speaker 1: the first round, where are the places that we could
Speaker 1: get the highest of a position. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: And if anybody doesn't know we're picking, which is obviously
Speaker 1: very late in the in the draft, and honestly, there
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of positions where you're going to get
Speaker 1: the first guy off the board. And if you couple
Speaker 1: that with positions we'd actually be interested in probably, Um,
Speaker 1: there's probably only one, and that would be running back.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you can get to the first kicker
Speaker 1: upon her, but you're not going to get in the
Speaker 1: first round. You could get the first tight end almost surely,
Speaker 1: but I don't think the Bucks would use their first
Speaker 1: round prismon tighten this year. I don't necessarily think that
Speaker 1: running back he's the most likely position, but you could
Speaker 1: say that the Buccaneers have some need. Their Leonard four
Speaker 1: Nette is back, which is great, and then you have
Speaker 1: Keyshan Vaughn. But you probably are at least going to
Speaker 1: add one more guy, and it would be cool if
Speaker 1: it was a you know, a dynamic guy that could
Speaker 1: be somebody that played, you know, played a bigger role
Speaker 1: in the future, but could also work in the offense
Speaker 1: right now. I think running back is the only position
Speaker 1: probably where the Buccaneers could get the first guy off
Speaker 1: the board and actually have him be of some use
Speaker 1: to the team this year. It wouldn't be defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be ed rusher, wouldn't be cornerback. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be safety because Kyle Hamilton's probably gonna be on the
Speaker 1: top five. It wouldn't be any of the offensive line
Speaker 1: positions except maybe center if Tyler Linderbaum easily considered the
Speaker 1: best center prospect, but I see him going in the
Speaker 1: first half of a lot of mock drafts, but I
Speaker 1: have seen him dropped to the near the bottom round
Speaker 1: in a few So you could possibly get the first center.
Speaker 1: But we just resigned Ryan Jensen's Yeah, probably only running back, Okay,
Speaker 1: And then the second part of his question was which
Speaker 1: position group do you think drafting there could have the
Speaker 1: most immediate impact? So when you know the team is
Speaker 1: so of all in on this next year and now
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is back, so we hear about the
Speaker 1: idea of need versus best player available. Well, we know
Speaker 1: the Bucks aren't necessarily in a true need for a
Speaker 1: ton of places, But then also what if the best
Speaker 1: player available as a quarterback but you don't really need that.
Speaker 1: So the idea instead of who would maybe make the
Speaker 1: most immediate impact this next year and what position group
Speaker 1: might that be? Yeah, teams like to say best player available,
Speaker 1: but usually when it comes down to it, it's best
Speaker 1: player available at a position you really need. And even
Speaker 1: last year, when probably the most position the Bucks have
Speaker 1: ever been since I've been here, to actually take the
Speaker 1: best player available. No matter what, they still ended up
Speaker 1: taking an edge resher, which was what most people predicted.
Speaker 1: And I think that helps us answer this question too,
Speaker 1: because I think the most likely positions where you could
Speaker 1: get a player of need that can make an impact
Speaker 1: right away are the ones where, yes, you have starters,
Speaker 1: but usually work a rotation. So you could have said
Speaker 1: already that you have starters at the edge in um
Speaker 1: in shack Barrett, maybe Joe, tryan Shenka, but you could
Speaker 1: draft into the guy and he could still get plenty
Speaker 1: of snaps. Same thing. At defensive tackle. You've got Vida Vella,
Speaker 1: You've got Will Golston, you've got Nacho working on new roaches.
Speaker 1: Don't know if n Don mckensue is coming back yet,
Speaker 1: but even if he is, you take a young, dynamic
Speaker 1: defensive lineman you can get him in the game. So
Speaker 1: I think it's still this position. Like it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: inside linebacker because you only play two of those ever,
Speaker 1: and you're not taking Devin Wider or Lavante David off
Speaker 1: the field. It could be safety, it could be corner,
Speaker 1: but you do kind of have designated starters at all
Speaker 1: those positions, right now. So to me, it's the positions
Speaker 1: where you can get a rotation. So it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: offensive line, it wouldn't be a quarterback, but it could
Speaker 1: be running back, receiver, defensive line, or edge. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: our next one, this is from Jonathan and he said,
Speaker 1: any news on the Gronk resigning? No, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of feels like we're in a little bit
Speaker 1: of holding pattern, right, But he's made some hints. Jason
Speaker 1: Lighte was asked about that on Monday at the at
Speaker 1: the owners meetings, and he didn't really have any new
Speaker 1: information for us. So I think the Buccaneers are the
Speaker 1: ones that are waiting for for Rob to decide whether
Speaker 1: he really wants to come back or not. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: and then Willie wanted to know, are we still going
Speaker 1: to be after I don't know why didn't and he said,
Speaker 1: are we still after a great cornerback in the draft?
Speaker 1: Could be? Could be, And it could come down a
Speaker 1: little bit to how that's kind of related to the
Speaker 1: questions you were just asking me how they fall, you know,
Speaker 1: because I think there's probably and I am not privy
Speaker 1: to our exact cornerback boards, but there's probably areas where
Speaker 1: you know you got tears. We would spend a first
Speaker 1: round pick on these five guys, but after this it
Speaker 1: falls off a little bit that kind of thing. So
Speaker 1: would we do that in the first round probably depends
Speaker 1: on how much a run there is on it. But
Speaker 1: I do think cornerback is very much a possibility. And
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try out my usual line here
Speaker 1: about Okay, I guess I just did about how you
Speaker 1: can never have but just keep in mind that both
Speaker 1: we got Carlton back, but both Sean Murphy Bunting and
Speaker 1: Jamal Dean are due to become unrestricted free agents next year,
Speaker 1: and no matter how much you like them, we really
Speaker 1: love Jordan Whitehead, but we weren't able to keep him.
Speaker 1: So it's a possibility that one or both could leave,
Speaker 1: and then having another quarterback that you just drafted the
Speaker 1: year before would be a very nice thing to have.
Speaker 1: So I do think cornerback is very much in play
Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers. As much as obviously your career has
Speaker 1: worked out at the Buccaneers for thirty years, I think
Speaker 1: you should have been an agent for a corner that's
Speaker 1: just a represent cornerbacks, all right. Our next one is
Speaker 1: from Jose and he said who could be a backup
Speaker 1: to Lenny at running back? It's probably at this point
Speaker 1: it's obviously Keyshawn Vaughan. Um. The only other ones that
Speaker 1: we have on the roster right now are Keyshawan and
Speaker 1: Kenyan Barner, and Kenyan's mostly have been a kick returner. UM,
Speaker 1: and I think the Buccaneers think that Keyshan is ready
Speaker 1: to be a backup. I mean the backup for Leonard
Speaker 1: last year was Ronald Jones. And Ronald Jones obviously he
Speaker 1: is a good runner and coach would say that about
Speaker 1: him all the time, and he signed with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: by the way, Um, but he wasn't a guy that
Speaker 1: is necessarily trusted most of the time his career to
Speaker 1: be the past protection guy. He wasn't a guy that
Speaker 1: gave you a ton in the passing game. So it's
Speaker 1: not like that there's a huge bar that Keyshawn von
Speaker 1: is trying to clear here. Is he a dynamic runner
Speaker 1: and coach for Aaron says that about him all the time.
Speaker 1: He's like, there's no question that he's a good runner.
Speaker 1: We very much like his running ability. They just want
Speaker 1: to see the rest of his game. Developed, so if
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones could be your primary backup to Leonard last year,
Speaker 1: there's no reason Keyshon can't feel the same role. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: that is going to do it for us on this
Speaker 1: edition of Buccaneers Insider Live presented by Miller Lite. And
Speaker 1: again after this, we're gonna be recording a Road to
Speaker 1: the Draft, so you have have more draft questions, make
Speaker 1: sure you check out that video. Will be talking that
Speaker 1: every single week of all the different things affecting who
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers might draft, So stay tuned for that and
Speaker 1: we'll be back here next week.