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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is episode thirty eight thirty
Speaker 1: eight counted of Native Lampid, where we give it to
Speaker 1: you directly a breakdown of all things that are politics
Speaker 1: and culture. We are your hosts, Tiffany Cross, Angela Ride Hello,
Speaker 1: all right, what's up? Everybody up?
Speaker 3: Tiff? What's going on?
Speaker 4: And we're just staff there, you said, Andrew Will he
Speaker 4: has his staff there, his gardener is oh here.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows I cut my own grass.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but you know what we
Speaker 3: do have I do, Andrew? I do?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: Do hedges?
Speaker 3: Do do hedges? Well?
Speaker 5: What we got Angela speaking of doodo, Tiff and I
Speaker 5: we're COVID positive, and Andrew it was not.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that happened. Everybody on the team
Speaker 3: got COVID apparently from the DNC, and we are now
Speaker 3: just so social great social was crazy.
Speaker 1: Well well, putting some good in the air for y'all, and.
Speaker 3: It is my negative multiple times.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm very happy about that. Can I be honest? With y'all.
Speaker 4: I never tested positive for COVID. I just knew I
Speaker 4: had no I only at the very beginning I tested negative,
Speaker 4: but I didn't. I was too weak to even go
Speaker 4: get a COVID test because I was in my house alone,
Speaker 4: like I just isolated. But I knew I had it
Speaker 4: because when I had COVID before, like my my bones
Speaker 4: apes and like how I felt before was exactly how
Speaker 4: I felt all week. So I was comatos all week.
Speaker 5: Like I didn't even have any of that. It was crazy. Andrew,
Speaker 5: you missed this earlier on our on our pre pro call.
Speaker 5: But then the pre pro call, I was saying I
Speaker 5: got three boosters. Tip said she got four or five,
Speaker 5: and I got hit way like less, like I had
Speaker 5: a little bit of a call for two days. I
Speaker 5: had sniffles, I was a little congested, but I wasn't
Speaker 5: anywhere near as wiped out as Tip was knocked out
Speaker 5: for the count for days for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one time I remember getting it, it had
Speaker 1: me like that. I mean I was shivers. I had
Speaker 1: it all. It was crazy, And the good news is
Speaker 1: is Tiff, I'm gonna put in the mail some of
Speaker 1: NIM government tests. That guy a bunch. You could an
Speaker 1: we haven't been surplus. I gotta get you some of those. Well, y'all,
Speaker 1: I am, and I know the audience is excited that
Speaker 1: y'all are back. Y'all are full, you know, full force
Speaker 1: as best.
Speaker 3: You can be.
Speaker 1: You look good. Known the difference, we wouldn't have known
Speaker 1: the difference, But I am curious to know what is
Speaker 1: on y'all's mind today. We are beyond labor Day. Things
Speaker 1: begin to sober and get very real from this point forward,
Speaker 1: particularly as it relates to the election, and every every
Speaker 1: day is a new one, and if feels like a
Speaker 1: lifetime sometimes, and it also feels like we're running out
Speaker 1: of time.
Speaker 4: So well, I won't say what's keeping me up, because
Speaker 4: everything keeps me up, but I what we talked about
Speaker 4: during DNC and the show leading up to this is,
Speaker 4: I know Angela's been eager to talk about debate prep,
Speaker 4: which I'm curious both of you guys thoughts, because Angela
Speaker 4: did debate prep with Andrew worked on his campaign. I've
Speaker 4: only done debate prep with one candidate. It was Nick Mosby.
Speaker 4: I worked on his campaign from mayor. But mostly I've
Speaker 4: been on the journalism side of things. So I wanted
Speaker 4: to today to talk about the debate because this is
Speaker 4: the last show that we'll do before there is a debate,
Speaker 4: and I just we have a lot of thoughts about
Speaker 4: how Vice President Harris should handle Trump. That's the first thing.
Speaker 4: The second thing is Angela is owed a dinner to
Speaker 4: dinners if this debate actually happens, because we had a
Speaker 4: wager last week that I I'm still not gonna be
Speaker 4: convinced util I see both candidates hit that stage and
Speaker 4: Angela is very clear she wants to dinners. It's not
Speaker 4: just me and Andrew splitting the bill. It's got to
Speaker 4: be one time. I'm paying for dinner, one time and dinner.
Speaker 4: So if this debate happens, we need to talk about
Speaker 4: where we're going to dinner.
Speaker 5: So the bait is going to be our PM Italian
Speaker 5: And if I get to dinner, I'll also get to
Speaker 5: pick one of them.
Speaker 3: Is rpm you get to pick both places?
Speaker 1: Yes, our PM Dinners.
Speaker 5: That's what's a really good black owned spot for next week.
Speaker 5: And I'll tell everybody why we'll be in DC.
Speaker 3: You know what he's talking about exactly.
Speaker 4: The audience can tell us you all please drop us
Speaker 4: some good black owned restaurants in DC that are nice. Uh,
Speaker 4: So we can take Angela to dinner if this debate happens,
Speaker 4: or she'll take us again.
Speaker 3: All black DC restaurants.
Speaker 1: Are nice, Yeah, and don't I don't need nice.
Speaker 5: So that's when I start your pick Andrews my angel
Speaker 5: bet she wants on this. We're going to be in
Speaker 5: DC next week because we will be at my favorite place.
Speaker 5: It is the Black Nerd prom It is the Congressional
Speaker 5: Black HAWKUS Foundation's annual legislative conference. It is all of
Speaker 5: our old stomping grounds, really, because this is where I
Speaker 5: got close to Andrew, This is where I got clostive,
Speaker 5: and this is where I met a lot of my
Speaker 5: DC friends and learned like black folks outside of Seattle,
Speaker 5: where I'm from, and outside of the West Coast, there
Speaker 5: are some of us that think very similarly. Aren't in
Speaker 5: our for the upward mobility progression of liberation of our people?
Speaker 5: And this is that time of the year where black
Speaker 5: folks come together to talk about policy, and we will
Speaker 5: be there doing a live podcast. We got Asked, be answered.
Speaker 5: We will be live streaming from the Congressional Black Caucus
Speaker 5: Foundations ALC.
Speaker 3: So we can't wait to see.
Speaker 1: You, I said, black nerd prom I apologize, but I
Speaker 1: feel like it's like black homecoming, HBC homecoming, certainly for
Speaker 1: I guess nerds if we're embracing that, you know.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I've been a part of many conversations where
Speaker 4: we rank black conferences, like what's what's the dopis, what's
Speaker 4: the ones you dope is like? And how you describe
Speaker 4: each of them. I think that would be a good
Speaker 4: mini pob Maybe not for this week, but one week.
Speaker 3: Many problems can I say.
Speaker 4: I know we got to get into the show, but
Speaker 4: I just want to tell a really quicklyick quick story.
Speaker 4: Angel I don't know if you remember this. I remember
Speaker 4: when you got the job as executive director of the
Speaker 4: Congressional Black Caucus. Now there's the foundation, which hosts the
Speaker 4: conference annual legislative conference, and then there's the Legislative Body,
Speaker 4: which is where Angela works.
Speaker 3: Organization member service organization.
Speaker 4: And you were I've always been bad with my phone,
Speaker 4: but we were trying to connect and you were like,
Speaker 4: call me, call me, call me. And I took like
Speaker 4: days to hit you back, and finally we met at
Speaker 4: say it used to be this little spy in Chinatown
Speaker 4: and we were sitting at the bar and I was like, yeah, girl,
Speaker 4: like what's going on? And you were like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 4: going to be the new executive director to CBC. And
Speaker 4: I thought it was the coolest job. I thought that
Speaker 4: was so awesome. I was so excited for you, and
Speaker 4: you were like I was trying to call you to
Speaker 4: tell you, and we talked all about it. What year
Speaker 4: was that, I don't even remember.
Speaker 5: That was. I became CBCED in twenty ten, so it's
Speaker 5: twenty ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I just I remember that moment thinking like
Speaker 4: that's so major because the person who had the job
Speaker 4: before he was kind of like this King of DC
Speaker 4: type figure, you know, and I was like a young
Speaker 4: person moving here in like two thousand and two thousand
Speaker 4: and one, and I was like, I can't believe Angel
Speaker 4: was going to be like that person taking the helm.
Speaker 4: And it seems honestly like six months ago. It also
Speaker 4: seems like a lifetime ago, you know.
Speaker 3: It's so it is a lifetime ago.
Speaker 5: And I do want to shout out the person who
Speaker 5: was immediately before me was Patrece Willoughby and she now
Speaker 5: runs policy for the Double A CP and no, no, no,
Speaker 5: it's okay. The thing that you guys have is an
Speaker 5: Ohio connection, Tip and she loves the podcast.
Speaker 3: So Patrise, we love you, and just shouting you out.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of I was no, no, no, I
Speaker 5: know you were anywhere. I just wanted to make sure
Speaker 5: I shouted her out too. But yeah, we have a
Speaker 5: number of folks who've been in that role. She she
Speaker 5: knows you to charge the sake we oh so sometimes
Speaker 5: we must even Tip who has the memory of a
Speaker 5: dog one elephant.
Speaker 3: Sometimes that's up.
Speaker 1: But yes, I do know I as long as the
Speaker 1: current one.
Speaker 5: Vince Evans, Yeah, it's all kind of problems happening today.
Speaker 3: And here.
Speaker 1: I corrected that. You see how I corrected that before you.
Speaker 3: Vince, we love you.
Speaker 5: He worked on Andrew's campaign, He worked on Kamala's camp.
Speaker 5: He was a political director for Kamala Harris and he
Speaker 5: went to go work with Joyce Batty and he's still
Speaker 5: there with Congressman Stephen Horsford, who's the chair through the
Speaker 5: end of the year. Anyway, besides getting all the CBC
Speaker 5: is now used called the Black Nerve Prime for policy,
Speaker 5: We'll move right into the show.
Speaker 3: Andrew Gillip, you got the flow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, y'all that bars. I see the floor, I
Speaker 1: see the flowruption I I I accept the challenge of
Speaker 1: going into this debate. Obviously, we will not be simulating
Speaker 1: a debate for you. We lost that battle stimulate the debate.
Speaker 3: I did not want to be here. Angela wanted us
Speaker 3: and kick Tiff out.
Speaker 1: That is good enough.
Speaker 3: I will tune in the moderator. You got to be
Speaker 3: the moderator. I could be the moderator. Moderator, as.
Speaker 4: I was going to say a lot of my questions,
Speaker 4: I don't know if there would be things that y'all
Speaker 4: would want to weigh in on, be.
Speaker 3: Like next question please, of.
Speaker 1: Course we would. But you know what the funny thing
Speaker 1: is is that I think it's important that people also
Speaker 1: understand as we prepare for the debate, that a lot
Speaker 1: of what is happening on that stage between those two
Speaker 1: people is a highly choreographed not to say inauthentic, it's
Speaker 1: because you get real individuals. But and you all may
Speaker 1: agree or disagree with me here, but that debates are
Speaker 1: really intended to say a certain thing, communicate a certain
Speaker 1: thing to a certain audience, and you're not necessarily talking
Speaker 1: to the entire audience every time you give a response,
Speaker 1: and I just thought it was it put me in
Speaker 1: the mind of the speech by VP Harris or acceptance
Speaker 1: speech on that Thursday night, where you know, you had
Speaker 1: different crowd to responding differently to different things that she
Speaker 1: had to say. It was all, well, why does she
Speaker 1: have to give credit to that first? Why couldn't we
Speaker 1: start at this point? And you know, I kept trying
Speaker 1: to at least tell people who I know who are
Speaker 1: not as sort of politically engaged and involved, that this
Speaker 1: is really a highly choreographed, in intricate, you know, dance
Speaker 1: that the candidate is doing with the voter, especially when
Speaker 1: you consider y'all the recent polling that's come out that
Speaker 1: shows that we're pretty much, you know, level set, game
Speaker 1: set we are. We're in a dead heat, and I
Speaker 1: think a lot of us are really drunk off excitement
Speaker 1: as we should be at a PEP rally slash sales
Speaker 1: meeting for our candidate. But it really is time to
Speaker 1: buckle down here. And I think that the debate happening
Speaker 1: next week is going to be just one of those
Speaker 1: I think very important and key indicators because it may
Speaker 1: be the only debate that we'll see these two individuals
Speaker 1: on the same stage. Should have happened.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's going to happen?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think at this point I will
Speaker 1: accept it that.
Speaker 3: It will right right a week, he's you know, he's
Speaker 3: gonna give it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win Dixie. I'm going to win Dixie. A
Speaker 1: budget as it relates.
Speaker 5: To that, I'm not really worried about it. You're gonna
Speaker 5: have to turn to your card.
Speaker 4: But yeah, a lot of.
Speaker 1: They took all those away remembers.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, I didn't mean to trigger you. I think
Speaker 5: you do have an credit card. I've seen it.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to move right along.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I wonder Angela, like, how many people actually
Speaker 4: watch presidential debates. Now, this one I think will be
Speaker 4: an anomaly because there's enthusiasm around this campaign now, right
Speaker 4: now that Vice President Harris is at the top of
Speaker 4: the ticket. I think it will be something to see.
Speaker 4: I do not think this debate is going to really
Speaker 4: slay any voter. I don't think that they're going to
Speaker 4: necessarily expand their base. I honestly, you know, I know,
Speaker 4: like white run newsrooms are always talking about these mysterious
Speaker 4: swing voters. I really have my doubts if they exist,
Speaker 4: if you are on the fence about these two very
Speaker 4: different candidates, with very different policy platforms, with very different
Speaker 4: life experience, with very different perspectives and points of view
Speaker 4: and personalities. I begged somebody to explain to me how
Speaker 4: that person is a possible swing voter. Even the networks
Speaker 4: have gotten caught with their pants down, so to speak,
Speaker 4: because they've had people on there who are like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I said, I was a Trump supporter, and they still
Speaker 4: put me on this panel as though like an independent
Speaker 4: voter or an undecided voter. So I just I don't
Speaker 4: know what the debate will result in in terms of
Speaker 4: expanding the the base. At most, maybe it will impact
Speaker 4: GLTV H, you know, people getting out the vote.
Speaker 3: But what do you all think?
Speaker 5: I think you know, first and foremost, I think it's
Speaker 5: important to acknowledge that the two choices aren't just Trump
Speaker 5: and Kamala Harris. There are also third party candidates in
Speaker 5: some states. For example, RFK, who has dropped out, will
Speaker 5: not be removed from the ballots in Wisconsin. In Michigan,
Speaker 5: which is favorable to the Democratic Party, I don't know
Speaker 5: what's going on with Jill Nim but that also could
Speaker 5: be a factor. And then finally, the factor that we
Speaker 5: all know and talked about on this podcast, especially when
Speaker 5: Joe Biden was on, is apathy and whether or not
Speaker 5: people decide to go out or not. So if people
Speaker 5: see themselves reflected enough, or they get excited enough about
Speaker 5: change or something different, they very well could go out.
Speaker 5: And one of the things that I would love to
Speaker 5: do here is play one of the clips that I
Speaker 5: think that will work very well for Kamala Harris in
Speaker 5: the debate if she is able to double down here,
Speaker 5: and it is about what she knows about Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Let's roll that sound.
Speaker 6: Before I was elected as Vice president, before I was
Speaker 6: elected as United States Senator, I was the elected Attorney general,
Speaker 6: as I've mentioned to California, and before that, I was
Speaker 6: a courtroom prosecutor.
Speaker 3: In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.
Speaker 7: Kinds, creditors who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers,
Speaker 7: cheaters who broke the rules.
Speaker 3: For their own game.
Speaker 6: So hear me when I say I know Donald Trump's type.
Speaker 1: So Angela, I love, love, love that clip, and I
Speaker 1: remember that speech. Let's on the other side of this
Speaker 1: break Payson bills and then come back with some reactions
Speaker 1: amongst the panel.
Speaker 5: So I wanted to roll that because what has happened
Speaker 5: is that has played so well well for Kamala Harrison
Speaker 5: the campaign. They have used that same line, that same
Speaker 5: refrain over and over again.
Speaker 3: We see that happen in the black church often like that.
Speaker 5: Thing where the whole you know, the church rubs, the
Speaker 5: congregation of rubs.
Speaker 3: People keep tapping back into that.
Speaker 5: What I want to make sure that she does is
Speaker 5: not necessarily go specific to the I know Donald Trump's
Speaker 5: type line, but to double down as I am the
Speaker 5: prosecutor and he is the comp what he should be
Speaker 5: the convict.
Speaker 3: He is the one who's facing sentencing.
Speaker 5: We have said often since twenty sixteen that he's teflon
Speaker 5: Don because nothing sticks.
Speaker 3: This time, things seem to be sticking.
Speaker 5: And so what I really want Tamila Harris to do
Speaker 5: is double down and get in his head. She needs
Speaker 5: to be treating this week and plus before this debate
Speaker 5: as the opportunity to ready herself as a boxer would before.
Speaker 3: This biggest match.
Speaker 5: Get in his head, like start calling him Don the Khan,
Speaker 5: start saying, you know, I was a prosecutor. I used
Speaker 5: to prosecute John's Donald Trump is one of them. I
Speaker 5: used to prosecute fraudsters. Donald Trump is one of them.
Speaker 5: I used to prosecute folks who lied on their business
Speaker 5: forms to ensure that they collected more fees, more money
Speaker 5: from folks who they stole from contractors. I know the type,
Speaker 5: and that is Don the Khan, and that is, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: who I have to stand on the debate stage with.
Speaker 5: It is a waste of my time, but I'm going
Speaker 5: to do this for the American people so you all
Speaker 5: can see the contrast.
Speaker 3: That's where I really want her to be.
Speaker 5: For some folks, they would say, especially in the Democratic Party,
Speaker 5: that's below the bell.
Speaker 3: You need to when they go low, we go hi.
Speaker 5: Michelle Obama through it out the window, and so should
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: For this debate.
Speaker 5: She needs to go low, strike him so low that
Speaker 5: the ref doesn't know if it was below the belt
Speaker 5: or not. She needs to be doing that starting now,
Speaker 5: and I think she should do that in her opening remarks.
Speaker 3: Of the debate.
Speaker 1: Tiffany, what do you think would be the fatal flaw
Speaker 1: in her performance? If, as I suspect, the Republicans are
Speaker 1: planning to throw her off her game. She's been pretty even,
Speaker 1: she's been pretty in control. She has controlled much of
Speaker 1: the environment in which she has talked about him. This
Speaker 1: will be different. Yeah, And if you're Donald Trump, your
Speaker 1: job is also to throw her off her game so
Speaker 1: that she can look like what to the American people.
Speaker 4: So I think he's been trying to figure out how
Speaker 4: to throw her off her game. What I think he
Speaker 4: doesn't realize on what the American people will soon see
Speaker 4: is black women are so used to people throwing us
Speaker 4: off our game that we have learned to have a
Speaker 4: plastered smile on my face, on our face while saying
Speaker 4: f you the entire time. I don't think he's going
Speaker 4: to be able to to be quite honest, she has
Speaker 4: stood to Angelo's point. She has faced off with people
Speaker 4: in the courtroom. She has faced off against political opponents.
Speaker 4: She's quite frankly one more elections than he has. So
Speaker 4: I would say even by her kind of rising above
Speaker 4: some of his insults, that is enough. That's not maybe
Speaker 4: not enough, but that is definitely something that will also
Speaker 4: get in his head. I take Angelo's point about you
Speaker 4: know us this week to get in his head and
Speaker 4: and you know, kind of deliver these punches at him
Speaker 4: and these insults to him. Well, you could argue they're
Speaker 4: not insults, they're actually just factional or statements. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: would say what we have to remember is when she
Speaker 4: is speaking, she is speaking to the globe. She is
Speaker 4: not just speaking to voters here in America. She is
Speaker 4: speaking to President she of China, she is speaking to
Speaker 4: President Modi of India, she is speaking to Angela Merkel like.
Speaker 4: She is speaking to global leaders who are going to
Speaker 4: be looking to her for her temperament because they are
Speaker 4: eager to bring some sense of normalcy and confidence back
Speaker 4: to the American positioning on the globe. So I think
Speaker 4: she has to navigate that carefully. I have no doubts
Speaker 4: about her ability to be able to do that. Again,
Speaker 4: it's the duality of our kind as black women. I
Speaker 4: think she will be able to throw a punch at
Speaker 4: Donald Trump and also speak to even like the global markets,
Speaker 4: you know, the financial markets, who will also be looking
Speaker 4: at this debate. It's a very serious time and serious issues.
Speaker 4: So this idea of like slinging insults back and forth
Speaker 4: at each other, I really hope that she doesn't traffic
Speaker 4: in that, but that she keeps it to just stating
Speaker 4: the facts about him and answering the questions that the
Speaker 4: way that she wants to answer them without stooping to
Speaker 4: his level. But I want to be clear, I am
Speaker 4: of the mindset that, yeah, go low. I don't mean
Speaker 4: go low in the sense of, you know, don't go
Speaker 4: gut her, but go low in the sense of, I
Speaker 4: know how to throw a punch back at you. Don't
Speaker 4: come for me if I didn't call for you, because
Speaker 4: I'm gonna win this battle. And if you ever had
Speaker 4: your soul snatched by a black women, you know we
Speaker 4: can do it in very articulate and intellectual ways. We
Speaker 4: don't have to snap our fingers and roll our necks.
Speaker 4: We know how to do it in a way that
Speaker 4: we are professional, and it's still cuts cuts you off
Speaker 4: at the jugular.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I'm clear, Andrew. I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to, I want to.
Speaker 5: I don't want to cut you off, but I want
Speaker 5: to make sure I'm not talking about neck rolling and
Speaker 5: snapping at all, so I know.
Speaker 4: You are and I'm okaying as black women, how yeah,
Speaker 4: can we can do that without without doing all the
Speaker 4: extra it's housewives.
Speaker 3: Yep, I don't want to at all.
Speaker 5: I would say even the even the poort that you
Speaker 5: just point you made about she's speaking to the globe.
Speaker 3: She ain't speaking to the globe before.
Speaker 5: She's speaking to this vote, these voters that she needs
Speaker 5: to get to turn out in me.
Speaker 3: She's speaking to.
Speaker 4: The globe every time she speaks.
Speaker 5: I understand saying that she will not be speaking to
Speaker 5: the globe as commander in chief if she can't speak
Speaker 5: to these people, to the she needs to turn out
Speaker 5: in the next sixty days. So she's got to figure
Speaker 5: out a way, just like every other candidate and every
Speaker 5: other president before her has had to figure out a
Speaker 5: way to navigate both worlds. We are in the fight
Speaker 5: of our lives. She can't play this as politics as
Speaker 5: usual because they're unusual politics, right anyway, Andrew, you were
Speaker 5: going to go in and then I know, we have
Speaker 5: a bunch of other clips to run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know. So, I think she's got a
Speaker 1: couple of things that she's got to accomplish and also
Speaker 1: be weary of this in this debate one, I think
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 1: She is going to have to demonstrate a mature temperament
Speaker 1: that doesn't also feel above the room. So what I
Speaker 1: mean by that is is, yeah, Trump is going to
Speaker 1: throw some things out there, but my guess is is
Speaker 1: that they're not going to be when did you decide
Speaker 1: to be black? I think it's going to be something like,
Speaker 1: but you're a flip flopper. You said this da da
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da, and now you've
Speaker 1: changed your mind and now you're this, this, this is
Speaker 1: that and a third And he'll do it in a
Speaker 1: very you know, you know, second raid, pouty mood, no
Speaker 1: offensive powerting second graders for the comparison, but you know
Speaker 1: Trump is going to do it in a in a
Speaker 1: in a juvenile way. But the point he will be
Speaker 1: making will be likely a fair punch and also likely
Speaker 1: delivered in a way that will be highly irritating. And
Speaker 1: I think when I say she's going to have to well, well,
Speaker 1: if he wants to say you've changed your position and example, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll use fracking for instance. She was opposed to to fracking,
Speaker 1: which is the process of drilling deep below the Earth's
Speaker 1: surface and unleashing gases and oils, making it easier for
Speaker 1: folks to basically scout it, bring it out of the
Speaker 1: ground monetize it. She's been against that as in her
Speaker 1: previous positions all the way up into her run for president,
Speaker 1: but as Attorney general of the state of California, she
Speaker 1: even sued the Obama administration because of some of the
Speaker 1: fracking practices that were that were unleashed. That being said,
Speaker 1: I'm certain she can deliver a line that basically says
Speaker 1: that I learn every day. My values, however, as she
Speaker 1: has already said, have not changed. I still believe in
Speaker 1: global warming. I still believe that we've got to control
Speaker 1: carbon emissions in this country. And what I've evolved on
Speaker 1: is that there are a lot of strategies to get
Speaker 1: us there. And but but by the way, let's talk
Speaker 1: about you and where you've been on this, and and
Speaker 1: then basically level him in that. And that was going
Speaker 1: to be my point too, about what she's got to
Speaker 1: be able to do. One meet him in the room,
Speaker 1: but not go above the room. And sometimes what that
Speaker 1: means is having to cut him at the knees without
Speaker 1: a neck roll, without a roll of the eye, without
Speaker 1: without about that. No, all I'm saying is I've seen
Speaker 1: her move her body weight from one heel to the
Speaker 1: other and it gives this look that only a black
Speaker 1: mother can that that that you're on the receiving end of.
Speaker 1: And it is a leveling look all are.
Speaker 4: But are you saying that's wrong, like you don't want
Speaker 4: her to do that?
Speaker 1: Because that, to me is what I'm giving is I
Speaker 1: think she's going What I'm what I think she is
Speaker 1: going to do is point two slice him by basically
Speaker 1: making this always a comparison. I never want to see
Speaker 1: her alone in any one question that is posed to
Speaker 1: her answering that question about herself without also tying it
Speaker 1: to what his record is on whatever that issue is.
Speaker 1: Elections are choices, and we cannot leave it to the
Speaker 1: American people. This panel us, who are highly informed to
Speaker 1: be able to know on every contradiction that they may
Speaker 1: want to throw at her, that he doesn't have the
Speaker 1: same contradiction or worse, or that his position isn't worse
Speaker 1: than where she is on that issue. And the only
Speaker 1: way that will be accomplished it will not be through
Speaker 1: the moderators. It's going to be through her basically saying this,
Speaker 1: this is where I am, and I'm unchanging and my
Speaker 1: values and principles on this, but let's talk about where
Speaker 1: you are, and I think that was missing a bit
Speaker 1: from her interview that she did, her first interview that
Speaker 1: she did the other night with Dana Is. She did
Speaker 1: say where she was and I've evolved and I've grown
Speaker 1: in da da da da, But she didn't go back
Speaker 1: to the reframe of where is my opponent on these things?
Speaker 1: Where is Donald Trump on these issues? He doesn't believe
Speaker 1: in climate change, and he wants to through his Supreme
Speaker 1: Court appointments, allow the goddamn regulated to regulate themselves, to
Speaker 1: set the rules for themselves. So I think everything has
Speaker 1: to be a one two and her response about her
Speaker 1: record ought to be done in thirty seconds, and the
Speaker 1: other minute thirty ought to be on him.
Speaker 5: You know, to that point the Dana Bash interview that
Speaker 5: you just referenced, there was something else that came up
Speaker 5: in that interview that I was really really frustrated by.
Speaker 3: But the question wasn't the thing that frustrated me most.
Speaker 3: It was actually her response. And we.
Speaker 5: We have a clip of where this first came up,
Speaker 5: and this is what Dana played to Karmala Harris for
Speaker 5: her to respond to you said, you don't think her
Speaker 5: blackness is going to come up, I disagree.
Speaker 3: Let's roll this down.
Speaker 8: I've known her a long time, indirectly, not directly very much,
Speaker 8: and she was always of Indian heritage, and she was
Speaker 8: only promoting Indian heritage.
Speaker 3: I didn't know she was.
Speaker 8: Black until a number of years ago when she happened
Speaker 8: to turn black.
Speaker 3: And now she wants to be known as black.
Speaker 1: So I don't know is she Indian or is she black?
Speaker 3: She is always college.
Speaker 8: I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she
Speaker 8: was Indian all the way and then all of a
Speaker 8: sudden she made a turn and she went she became
Speaker 8: a black. Just to be clear, I think somebody should
Speaker 8: look into that too when you ask a continue in
Speaker 8: a very hostile, nasty town.
Speaker 3: So here's the theme.
Speaker 5: I hope that when this comes up in the debate,
Speaker 5: because again he is going to try to get in
Speaker 5: her head, which is why I want her to get
Speaker 5: in his head. Starting now, when this comes up in
Speaker 5: the debate, I want her to say I want to
Speaker 5: remind the American people that this was the birther in chief.
Speaker 5: This is the same person that questioned the citizenship of
Speaker 5: Barack Obama, who was born in Hawaii. I want to
Speaker 5: remind the American people that even in his own party,
Speaker 5: this is someone who questioned the citizenship and the identity
Speaker 5: of Nikki Hayley, someone who was a Trump appointee. This
Speaker 5: man has a problem with anyone who is other than
Speaker 5: exactly what.
Speaker 3: He looks like.
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to stand here and defend who
Speaker 5: I know I am as a black woman and an
Speaker 5: Indian woman. I Am going to stand here and tell
Speaker 5: you what I am about, what I am for, and
Speaker 5: who I am for, and that is the entirety of
Speaker 5: the American people, the full diversity of the American people.
Speaker 5: Whereas this person wants to continue to promote the fear,
Speaker 5: the xenophobia, the racism that he's trafficked in since he
Speaker 5: was president and frankly before he was president.
Speaker 3: She really deals with that and addresses it head on.
Speaker 5: During the interview, she said, I'm not gonna it's the
Speaker 5: same old playbook, but she didn't specify the playbook. We
Speaker 5: have to treat the American people like they haven't followed
Speaker 5: all of that. Some folks really don't know. They're just
Speaker 5: getting familiar with Donald Trump. They're voting for the first time.
Speaker 5: What did he do and why call him out on
Speaker 5: those things call him out on why he actually doesn't
Speaker 5: see us as all a part of this big family,
Speaker 5: this big tent.
Speaker 3: That's not what he sees.
Speaker 5: He wants to other us to the point of trafficking
Speaker 5: in white fear. Those are the same people that marched
Speaker 5: up to the Capitol on January sixth, who he and
Speaker 5: Bolden who.
Speaker 3: He is one of them? And she needs to make
Speaker 3: that really clear, I think in the debate when it comes,
Speaker 3: because I.
Speaker 4: Just want to say really quickly, just make sure listening
Speaker 4: to this and not watching this. Angela was referencing that
Speaker 4: because Dana Bash played it as a clip in her
Speaker 4: interview that was, of course the interview from the National
Speaker 4: Association of Black Journalists. And I have to say every
Speaker 4: time I see it, I freaking cringe that he was
Speaker 4: invited into that space. But anyway, go ahead, Andrew.
Speaker 1: You know I just so first of all, I like
Speaker 1: where you landed that, Angela, and I do think should
Speaker 1: she have to go directly at it, that where she
Speaker 1: wants to land is where everybody else is, and that
Speaker 1: this is positive as you know, again this throwback vision,
Speaker 1: this throwback man, this old outdated scale, you know, rerun
Speaker 1: of a figure who wants to be our president, incapable
Speaker 1: of taking us into the future, wants to live here. Well,
Speaker 1: the rest of us. We want to live in a
Speaker 1: house we can afford. We want groceries we can afford,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. I think I have to
Speaker 1: tell you on reflection, sometimes I think about my own
Speaker 1: race and how race was thrown in there, and how
Speaker 1: and truth what I knew about it was the more
Speaker 1: they were able to keep white people's concentration on my race,
Speaker 1: the worse it was for me. That I needed to
Speaker 1: move them beyond a conversation about about race. And I
Speaker 1: would imagine the Vice President Harris is getting similar advice,
Speaker 1: which is probably why she did the shrug. And it's
Speaker 1: beneath my station to respond in kind to that man,
Speaker 1: is that she's probably getting similar advice and feedback that
Speaker 1: in these seven key states that will matter the most
Speaker 1: and will decide the election, the people who look like
Speaker 1: him are going to be the ones in many ways making,
Speaker 1: you know, making that decision in some ways. And so
Speaker 1: I think she's probably getting different guidance, and I can
Speaker 1: understand what that guidance is based off of what we know.
Speaker 1: When race is put in the four brain of folks
Speaker 1: and how it can be weaponized.
Speaker 5: The second thing is, Andrew, you didn't and you didn't
Speaker 5: run from your race, and you didn't when it did
Speaker 5: come up, you addressed it head on and you pivot
Speaker 5: it quickly.
Speaker 3: She can address it head on and pivot quickly. But
Speaker 3: for her to not address it, the crazies who.
Speaker 5: Look like us are using it as an opportunity to
Speaker 5: say she see she doesn't identify as a black woman.
Speaker 3: Shut that down. You have to shut the noise down
Speaker 3: on both sides, and you did that very effectively.
Speaker 4: I just think the mat Andrew, I just as a
Speaker 4: refresher for our audience. I would love to play the
Speaker 4: moment that race came up in your debate, Andrew, on
Speaker 4: the other side of this break, we're going to see
Speaker 4: how race came up in your debate and how you
Speaker 4: addressed it because it was such an iconic moment.
Speaker 3: So don't go anywhere. We'll see you on the other side.
Speaker 1: Mister DeSantis has spoken.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 9: First of all, he's got neo Nazis helping him out
Speaker 9: in the state. He has spoken at racist conferences. He's
Speaker 9: accepted a contribution and would not return it from someone
Speaker 9: who referred to the former president of the United States
Speaker 9: as a Muslim nigg e R. When asked to return
Speaker 9: that money, he said, no, he's using that money to
Speaker 9: now fund negative ass Now I'm not calling mister Desanta's
Speaker 9: a racist.
Speaker 1: I'm simply saying the racist believe he's a racist. Far Still,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they played it long enough. But
Speaker 1: what kind of it still catches me about that is
Speaker 1: his very delayed reaction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Andrew, that I get goose bumps hearing that.
Speaker 4: But I'm curious to hear from you because I'm looking
Speaker 4: at that version. Let me just say, we age beautifully, Andrew.
Speaker 4: You've always been a good looking guy, and you look
Speaker 4: good there. But I have to say you look great now.
Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things about us as
Speaker 4: a people, how we age. Even Donald was shocked to
Speaker 4: find out the vice president here is with sixty It's
Speaker 4: like you got to find out a whole lot about
Speaker 4: black folks.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I was looking at that clip
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, I cannot believe I sat in
Speaker 1: the chair and let them spray paint my head. I
Speaker 1: was I was in it right here.
Speaker 5: Well, you might not be able to tell but jo
Speaker 5: Sis had him in a choke hold on the makeup too,
Speaker 5: because I was like, what you're not about to do
Speaker 5: is make it.
Speaker 1: Let me what the good news is is. I think
Speaker 1: from that I will say that there's not much I
Speaker 1: would actually I wouldn't change anything about that question. That
Speaker 1: response one. I was appreciative that the journalists laid up
Speaker 1: the question bloaded with the facts, right. He didn't just
Speaker 1: throw a simple thing out there. Are you racists or
Speaker 1: aren't you? You know? He he, He gave the the
Speaker 1: facts they're due. But I will say there were points
Speaker 1: at points on the on the race where I was
Speaker 1: doing interview after interview after interview television, I just sit
Speaker 1: down on the chair and feed me into all these
Speaker 1: different studios. Everyone wanted to ask me something about race,
Speaker 1: and I bit every time. And what I in retrospect
Speaker 1: probably would have thought a little bit more through is
Speaker 1: I think I would have used maybe those occasions more
Speaker 1: often to point out what this man's record and what
Speaker 1: he would have done to people of color, to minorities,
Speaker 1: to the majority of people in the state of Florida,
Speaker 1: rather than allowing his statements and his hatred and vitriol
Speaker 1: to sort of live, you know, a little bit longer,
Speaker 1: either in that segment or beyond. And that's why I'm
Speaker 1: saying I do think in this debate there is an answer.
Speaker 1: I think black people want to hear people of color
Speaker 1: and people from marginalized places, folks who have I want
Speaker 1: the Michelle Obama response right when approaching the mountain, all
Speaker 1: of us didn't get an escalator, right, that was just
Speaker 1: you and y'all. But I also recognize that that message
Speaker 1: can't be delivered from everybody, any time in it, at
Speaker 1: any audience. I think she will have to be particular
Speaker 1: about that, and I don't think it has anything to
Speaker 1: do with her one to separate from man black. I
Speaker 1: think she wholly embraces what that is, and I know
Speaker 1: the botch you're talking about here on the internet. But
Speaker 1: I also think think that the more she can trivialize
Speaker 1: this man, yes, and not create common calls between white
Speaker 1: folks who may think they've got something in common with
Speaker 1: this guy in that way, I don't want her to
Speaker 1: create the common cause. And I think giving that too
Speaker 1: much air has the propensity for frankly overplaying it. I
Speaker 1: think she ought to demure in a way that makes
Speaker 1: him look miniature, like he doesn't deserve to be seated
Speaker 1: at this table.
Speaker 4: But I think he was doing that himself, to be
Speaker 4: quite honest, and I think he does it every single time. Angela,
Speaker 4: I think you would agree that he makes himself look
Speaker 4: unworthy of the seat. I think the question, that's my point.
Speaker 4: The question is to his followers, there's nothing this man
Speaker 4: can do that they will accept. They would rather, like
Speaker 4: I say, see this country burn to the ground before
Speaker 4: they see a black woman run it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I don't think that the moderators will do. Vice President
Speaker 4: has any such favors. The moderator will be David Muir
Speaker 4: from ABC who hosts World News tonight, and Lindsay Davis,
Speaker 4: who is an excellent journalist. Yes, and I'm happy to
Speaker 4: see a black woman in that spot. I hope that
Speaker 4: they do a great job like this moderator did and
Speaker 4: present facts and also fact check the candidates, because that's
Speaker 4: something that's grossly missing and it's something that the American people,
Speaker 4: quite frankly deserve. My question to you two, how do
Speaker 4: you think that will go over for Vice President Harris?
Speaker 4: Should she say on that debate stage, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: anything about Donald Trump being a racist, but racist see
Speaker 4: him as a racist?
Speaker 3: Is that a line that can work for her?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it may not work for him, because
Speaker 1: we all know he is a pretty devout racist. I
Speaker 1: mean there's no there's no screen, there's no anything to him,
Speaker 1: So it would seem almost untruthful. Right, I ain't calling
Speaker 1: you a racist? Well, no, she is a racist, right
Speaker 1: like the bar is all already said, we know who you,
Speaker 1: but where you, where you, where you where? You mistake
Speaker 1: yourself and you mistake the rest of us. Is you
Speaker 1: think all of us are that beneath the floor, all
Speaker 1: of us are that low down that you can trigger
Speaker 1: the issue of race, and all of a sudden have
Speaker 1: a majority of Americans standing by you and with you
Speaker 1: and cheering for you. And guess what that isn't the
Speaker 1: America that I know. That isn't the America I believe in.
Speaker 1: That isn't the one that has allowed me to you know,
Speaker 1: ascend to you know, whatever the position is. And however
Speaker 1: she wants to give again an embrace to the nation.
Speaker 1: She did it when she said, only in America could
Speaker 1: my story be possible? That Obama said similarly.
Speaker 4: That's a slippery slope, Andrew, because I listen she she
Speaker 4: will asked this question before about is America a racist country?
Speaker 4: And I think a majority of black folks are with her,
Speaker 4: like we understand the game. We've all had to be
Speaker 4: ambidextrous this way and navigate how we present answers and
Speaker 4: facts for the comfort of folks. To be quite frank,
Speaker 4: I do wonder when we say these things like only
Speaker 4: in America could my story be possible? Also only in America?
Speaker 4: Could Donald Trump's story be possible in America? That we
Speaker 4: re worse white mediocrity? Why I didn't say only in
Speaker 4: America and especially in America, because not only in America.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I wonder if she can navigate that, if
Speaker 4: she can point out, like, yes, this man is a
Speaker 4: racist and we're navigating a racist infrastructure. How does that
Speaker 4: enhance her campaign? How does that play with the voters
Speaker 4: out there? How does that play with these Republicans who
Speaker 4: are think she does it?
Speaker 1: I mean if I did it, if I were her
Speaker 1: and she wanted to lean into this in some way
Speaker 1: to say she ate some of this appetite that's out
Speaker 1: there for her to speak more directly to it is
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you know, regardless of how I feel about
Speaker 1: him being a racist or whether America agrees with me
Speaker 1: in that regard. It has absolutely nothing to do with
Speaker 1: what he's going to do every single day to help
Speaker 1: every day American people afford to keep a roof over
Speaker 1: their head, food on the table, maybe save up for
Speaker 1: enough money to take a vacation every once in a while. Right,
Speaker 1: So I would say, bring it back, put him in
Speaker 1: the corner, put his time out, but always bring it
Speaker 1: back to what you're going to do for the American people.
Speaker 1: We don't benefit by a race debate between the two
Speaker 1: of them. He isn't even intelligent enough to engage in
Speaker 1: that in any real way. And I don't trust the
Speaker 1: media to do it wholeheartedly. I trust them to be
Speaker 1: frankly pretty tepid with it. And that leaves a big
Speaker 1: lift for her. And I just don't think that the
Speaker 1: lesson that we need her to be giving next week
Speaker 1: is going to be a lesson on race.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly her physical space. He did stage with Harry.
Speaker 4: If he gets in her physical space, which I do
Speaker 4: not put it beyond him, we'll see.
Speaker 3: I don't know why that.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll have, you know, very opposite ends of
Speaker 4: the podium and microphones. But if he does walk over
Speaker 4: and get in her physical.
Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't ignore him, right, Like, how.
Speaker 3: Should she address that? And do we think that will
Speaker 3: even happen?
Speaker 1: I think she ought to dress him up and down
Speaker 1: with her.
Speaker 3: I would think, give me fifty feet.
Speaker 1: Like I would almost step back, like you know, That's what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, got him like the clown he is. I
Speaker 3: think we got to her.
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. That's what I think is the
Speaker 1: genius Angela. I agree with you. I think that's the
Speaker 1: genius in her ability is. I think she will do
Speaker 1: some undressing in a way that won't seem tasteless and then.
Speaker 5: Address and avoid. And that's my only point. Like we
Speaker 5: ran one of the clips. I think y'all have clips too.
Speaker 5: We ran one of them, and I'm saying that she
Speaker 5: has to address the thing head on. There are people
Speaker 5: who are on the margins that aren't decided because of
Speaker 5: that this dream that you the place where this is
Speaker 5: the only place in the world where her story could
Speaker 5: be possible. She has to convey it's the American people
Speaker 5: that they are the key to her fulfilling the rest of.
Speaker 3: The American dream.
Speaker 5: Debates are for several things, to draw contrasts, to talk
Speaker 5: about records, to fact check, and most of the time
Speaker 5: that ends up being on the candidates because especially with
Speaker 5: the debate, the Presidential Commissions on Debates or whatever it's called,
Speaker 5: they told them the moderators they don't have to fact
Speaker 5: check anymore. It's an opportunity for her to show leadership.
Speaker 5: People have said for the last several years they haven't
Speaker 5: seen enough of Kamala. We know that some of that
Speaker 5: is because the media hasn't gone lives for some of
Speaker 5: the events that she's done. The other thing that it
Speaker 5: does is show oratory prowess. Kamala Harris has demonstrated that
Speaker 5: in presidential debates. In primary presidential debates, she did it
Speaker 5: with Joe Biden, had a very significant moment that was
Speaker 5: about race. So I think that she has to lean
Speaker 5: into her strengths. It has to ring true and be
Speaker 5: authentic to who she is, and we cannot try to
Speaker 5: conform her into the female version of Barack Obama or
Speaker 5: the black woman version of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: They need to let her be her. She can close
Speaker 3: an argument. That is what she's done for many years.
Speaker 5: She is the most qualified person to ever run for president,
Speaker 5: show people why that's all I say that.
Speaker 1: I believe that, and I don't just say it. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think one thing means you can't
Speaker 1: do the other.
Speaker 5: There just is a lot on this podcast about why
Speaker 5: she needs to avoid race, and I think that is
Speaker 5: actually being very difficult.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't mean to say avoid race.
Speaker 1: I would avoid a lecture of the American people about
Speaker 1: it because I don't think they find themselves in that equation.
Speaker 1: I don't think they see themselves at the end of
Speaker 1: that Why you just went through this whole thing and
Speaker 1: you're doing what about my assurance? And because people are
Speaker 1: interested in what have you done for me lately? And
Speaker 1: whether she takes umbrage at him, you know, throwing an insult.
Speaker 5: It's not that she has to throw an insult that
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 3: I definitely hear you on that tip. I agree.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about her throwing insults that are She
Speaker 5: just was saying she needs to talk policy. I talked
Speaker 5: about contrast record. All those things are policy based. I'm
Speaker 5: saying she cannot go on here and not hit him.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about undeserved hits. I'm talking about deserved
Speaker 5: hits that are policy based, that are fact based, that
Speaker 5: plant people in where.
Speaker 3: Like what the contrast really is anyway, Tip, I wanted
Speaker 3: to defer.
Speaker 4: Well, I agree with all that, and and I think
Speaker 4: I honestly think that she has the skills the skill
Speaker 4: set to do that.
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I want to.
Speaker 4: I think black folks are overwhelmingly with her, you know,
Speaker 4: I know, we talked about all people saying she's not black.
Speaker 4: I do not believe there are actual active people who
Speaker 4: are registered voters, who are quote unquote swing voters who
Speaker 4: question her blackness. I think, if you want to cite that,
Speaker 4: those are social media people say that on social media.
Speaker 4: Those are thoughts maybe real life people who we don't
Speaker 4: have any record of if they're registered to vote or not.
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure that her spending time, you know,
Speaker 4: convincing about her blackness or her you know, throwing blows
Speaker 4: to Donald Trump will be as effective as her talking
Speaker 4: to what her policy plan is and how it directly
Speaker 4: impacts the people, whilst with an st also throwing a
Speaker 4: punch at him in a very intellectual way, which I
Speaker 4: believe that she can. I think there are a lot
Speaker 4: of things happening across the globe that impact directly policy
Speaker 4: here in America, and one of those things that will
Speaker 4: definitely come up is the border. So I know we're
Speaker 4: coming up on a break. On the other side of
Speaker 4: this break, though, I want to get into something that
Speaker 4: happened this week in the Northern Triangle of Central America
Speaker 4: and talk about what I think Donald Trump will bring
Speaker 4: up on the global stage and have a SoundBite that
Speaker 4: he brought up specifically with it was either Joe Biden
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton. Will figure it out when we play the
Speaker 4: sound bite on the other side of this break, So
Speaker 4: don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 6: Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 8: In terms of having people come into our country, we
Speaker 8: have many criminal illegal aliens. When we want to send
Speaker 8: them back to their country, their country says we don't
Speaker 8: want them. In some cases they're murderers, drug lords, drug problems,
Speaker 8: and they.
Speaker 1: Don't want them.
Speaker 8: And Hillary Clinton, when she was Secretary of State, said
Speaker 8: that's okay, we can't force it into their country. Let
Speaker 8: me tell you, I'm going to force them right back
Speaker 8: into their country. Their murderers and some very bad people,
Speaker 8: and I will tell you very strongly. When Bernie Sanders
Speaker 8: said she had bad judgment, she has really bad judgment.
Speaker 8: Because we are letting people into this country that are
Speaker 8: going to cause problems and crime like you've never seen.
Speaker 8: We're also letting drugs pour through our southern border at
Speaker 8: a record clip, at a record clip, and it shouldn't
Speaker 8: be allowed to happen.
Speaker 4: So fact check that was not true at the time,
Speaker 4: nor is it true today. And I think it's important
Speaker 4: for the moderators. I don't even think the should be
Speaker 4: the responsibility of the candidate, but the moderators to correct
Speaker 4: that record because you constantly hear migrant crime. First of all,
Speaker 4: it is not illegal aliens, it's undocumented immigrants. I hope
Speaker 4: nobody out there parents's talking points, but it's just not true.
Speaker 4: The data doesn't show it. Law enforcement agencies don't show
Speaker 4: that this uptick and crime due to undocumented migrants here.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to bring this up because you guys
Speaker 4: may have heard, or maybe you didn't, that the United
Speaker 4: States seized the airplane of outgoing President Moduro of Venezuela,
Speaker 4: and I want to say one that was just the
Speaker 4: most gangster ish I had seen in a long time
Speaker 4: the United States straight up like the repollman and went
Speaker 4: and got this dude's plane and took it. They say,
Speaker 4: because he was in violation of sanctions. Now, Maduro, I say,
Speaker 4: outgoing president, because in the last presidential election, his opponent
Speaker 4: got more than half the votes than Maduro Gonzalez is
Speaker 4: the legitimate president that the United States is recognizing. I
Speaker 4: think no one has said this. This is just me
Speaker 4: reading several articles on this and drawing my own conclusion.
Speaker 4: I think that the United States is applying pressure to Maduro,
Speaker 4: saying you better accept these election results and get out
Speaker 4: because clearly we're tilting our thumb on the scale for Gonzales.
Speaker 4: Why this matters here is because the border is a
Speaker 4: huge challenge. It's a talking point. Democrats were not talking
Speaker 4: about the border ten years ago. This is a problem
Speaker 4: with them playing defense and having to respond to things
Speaker 4: because the Republicans can invent something being an issue that
Speaker 4: wasn't an issue, and then all of a sudden, our
Speaker 4: whole policy platform is changing. I think they're saying, you
Speaker 4: got to get out of office and let Gonzales take over,
Speaker 4: or we're going to make more problems for you. His
Speaker 4: plane is the equivalent to Air Force one. It would
Speaker 4: be like China coming over here taking Air Force one
Speaker 4: and Air Force two saying, yop, y'all allw us too
Speaker 4: much money, We're taking it now. If they cleared that,
Speaker 4: because Venezuela is a pretty much it's it's emptied out.
Speaker 4: The biggest gang in Colombia right now are Venezuelan's And
Speaker 4: you guys may remember Hugo Chavez who hated Bush. Venezuela
Speaker 4: used to have so much money, they were swimming in money.
Speaker 4: And then I don't know if you remember Andrew at
Speaker 4: the u N when Chavez was on there.
Speaker 3: He was like, do y'all smell that.
Speaker 1: Smell was just here.
Speaker 3: They hated Bush like they were so they.
Speaker 1: Went low America giving.
Speaker 4: They were bawling, and now they are a distraught country.
Speaker 4: And so this is an example of how what happens
Speaker 4: over there is impacting what happens here, because if these
Speaker 4: countries were functional, and if they were not impacted by
Speaker 4: global policy, including American policy, that would slow down migrants
Speaker 4: crossing into the border who are desperate. Some of these
Speaker 4: places are narco states, meaning the drug lords are pretty
Speaker 4: much running the government, and these mothers are desperate. So
Speaker 4: I would love to hear Vice President harrisonince this was
Speaker 4: something that was in her portfolio as vice.
Speaker 1: President exactly Tiffany, because I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: confuse that they keep saying she was in charge of
Speaker 1: the immigration at the border, but her assignment was different.
Speaker 4: Yes, she was focused on policy in the countries of
Speaker 4: nor the home countries of where she was. She was
Speaker 4: never responsible for standing out on the border with a
Speaker 4: flashlight like, Oh no, you don't like that's ridiculous, But
Speaker 4: that is how elementary the Republican talking points are that
Speaker 4: they presented that way to people. Look, I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to say that the border is not a challenge. It
Speaker 4: most certainly is a challenge. These cities do not have
Speaker 4: the resources to continue to have the influx of the undocumented.
Speaker 4: We are not a heartless country. We ought to you know,
Speaker 4: make this, you know, support people however we can. But
Speaker 4: if we can make these or help make these countries stable,
Speaker 4: that will will impact a lot of what happens here.
Speaker 4: And it's really sad to me because we played a
Speaker 4: lot of sound on this show from people in Chicago
Speaker 4: to New York talking about how frustrated they are with
Speaker 4: the migrants coming in, and I just want us to
Speaker 4: be careful about pitting these communities against each other and
Speaker 4: really having a solid understanding of what's happening and how
Speaker 4: this exactly impacts us. Angela, I think you when we
Speaker 4: talked about fifty cent and Mayor Adams when he was
Speaker 4: giving out the cards to people, they were like black
Speaker 4: owned businesses in New York, Yes, yes, And Angela made
Speaker 4: the point these are black owned businesses, like this was
Speaker 4: helping everybody, but people read the headline and not the
Speaker 4: story and didn't really understand it. So I think this
Speaker 4: is going to be something that comes up on the
Speaker 4: debate stage, and I hope that she's able to address it.
Speaker 4: I hear your point, Angela about the media didn't really
Speaker 4: cover her, but I would also say broadcast maybe didn't,
Speaker 4: but she was covered and people have to take responsibility
Speaker 4: for getting that information. You know, she was not at
Speaker 4: the top of the ticket, she wasn't the president. And
Speaker 4: people who are like, well, we don't know her, we
Speaker 4: haven't heard from her, well, you know, a part of
Speaker 4: that is you have to go out and get information.
Speaker 4: You have to have some intellectual curiosity about her and
Speaker 4: the policies that she makes. I know people disagree with
Speaker 4: me on this. Me and Jamal Samos always argue about this.
Speaker 4: It's like, you can't blame the voters, I blame I
Speaker 4: blame us a little bit.
Speaker 3: You can.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, she has sixty
Speaker 5: one days left. So you can either take the time
Speaker 5: that sixty one days to tell them what they should know,
Speaker 5: or you can inform them. And this is going to
Speaker 5: be a really large audience for them to understand what
Speaker 5: was in your portfolio? Vice President Harris? What were those accomplishments?
Speaker 5: Can we hear about those? Because sadly we didn't read
Speaker 5: the papers we should have read. Sadly we didn't see
Speaker 5: it covered on the channels we watched. So what did
Speaker 5: you actually do? It's her opportunity not to scold them,
Speaker 5: but to bring them into the fold.
Speaker 1: So, Angela, if the dress down is like we saw
Speaker 1: with Hillary, Trump gets up there on basis this murdered
Speaker 1: people because of Biden and Harris, and you know what
Speaker 1: they've done, led to such and such and such and such,
Speaker 1: all the hyper stuff that we saw him do, just
Speaker 1: their line out of his ears, right, But I suspect
Speaker 1: it's going to be the same kind of thing that
Speaker 1: he will do in this upcoming debate. How does she
Speaker 1: separate in some way from but also embrace what they've
Speaker 1: done as an administration. What's her response to that level
Speaker 1: of like, well, she ain't true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just not right.
Speaker 1: She is just not true.
Speaker 5: If they're not going to fact check, and especially if
Speaker 5: they leave the mites on so they can talk over
Speaker 5: each other. Every time he lies, she should say that's
Speaker 5: a lie. That's a lie to that's also a lie. Now,
Speaker 5: now is my opportunity to speak. Because just because words
Speaker 5: are coming out of someone's mouth does not make them fact.
Speaker 3: He is entitled to his own perspective. He is not
Speaker 3: entitled to his own set of facts.
Speaker 5: So let me actually tell you what happened since I've
Speaker 5: been irresponsible for immigration and border crossings. Border crossings have
Speaker 5: actually gone down by x percent. Like she can go
Speaker 5: in and that and I think that's the best thing
Speaker 5: to do. People need to know because he says it passionately,
Speaker 5: even his supporters. It does not make it true.
Speaker 3: Because you saw it in one of his campaign as
Speaker 3: it does not make it true. But don't worry, y'all.
Speaker 5: I'm here today to give you the facts for you
Speaker 5: to actually make your own decision and go into the
Speaker 5: voting booth and make the right decision.
Speaker 3: That's what I think she should do.
Speaker 4: Yeah too, And I hope she has her policy plan.
Speaker 4: I haven't gone to her website. I know she hasn't
Speaker 4: had her policy plan up there, I think, which is
Speaker 4: an unfair criticism. I think, you know the way that
Speaker 4: she came onto the campaign, It normally takes two to
Speaker 4: three months to do that, and people were looking for
Speaker 4: it three weeks after she had been there. But for
Speaker 4: the people who will continue to say, well, I don't
Speaker 4: know her, I don't know where she stands on things,
Speaker 4: well what does she mean? I hope that they will
Speaker 4: be able to go to her website and look at
Speaker 4: her policy plans, her policy proposals, and look at how
Speaker 4: it specifically impacts them.
Speaker 1: Even in her doing. I'm with you, Tiff. I hope
Speaker 1: that in this however setting that it's contrast contrast contract layout.
Speaker 1: I want to fit. You know, what does she say?
Speaker 1: Twenty five million new small businesses open in her first
Speaker 1: four years. For in her first term in office, I
Speaker 1: want to increase the tax benefit for anyone who wants
Speaker 1: to start a new business doubling, tripling the the the
Speaker 1: tax benefit that you get and the tax break that
Speaker 1: you get, whatever her tax break is going to be
Speaker 1: for middle class folks, and then say, and by the way,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for Trump's position on this, it could
Speaker 1: be summed up real simply it's tax breaks for the
Speaker 1: one percent of Americans. And then you know, just sort
Speaker 1: of continuously show the difference between the two of them,
Speaker 1: because you know what obsesses me and my frustration with
Speaker 1: media is it's sort of like, well, where's your policy
Speaker 1: on this and where's I can't remember a time they
Speaker 1: have covered Trump about.
Speaker 3: Dam But that, again, is not a contrast that she
Speaker 3: should point out.
Speaker 5: You will know that Maya gets on air, they broadcast
Speaker 5: the foolishness that comes out of his mouth. But they
Speaker 5: expect me to give you a white paper rundown in
Speaker 5: thirty seconds about what my homeownership policy is. Well, I'm
Speaker 5: here today to tell you this because I'm doing this,
Speaker 5: y'all because I just went on her website tip it's
Speaker 5: still not up. I hope by the time the debate happens,
Speaker 5: she can say go to Kamalaharis dot com, as Andrew
Speaker 5: did every time during the debate, because you don't have
Speaker 5: time in those ninety second answers to go get in everything.
Speaker 5: And also for Kamala, who is very cerebral and she
Speaker 5: kind of gets tongue tied when she is talking about policy,
Speaker 5: she may not be able to go right to a
Speaker 5: fact in that moment because she's wording off an attack
Speaker 5: from an abuser in that instance. Here's what you all
Speaker 5: need to know for home ownership, with the help and
Speaker 5: I hope she does this too, with the help of
Speaker 5: a democratic House and Senate.
Speaker 3: These are my plans. Why should she do that?
Speaker 5: Because there are still some really tough races that she
Speaker 5: needs that she will need to have one in order
Speaker 5: to govern the way that she'd like to. She will
Speaker 5: need a majority of the House, she will need a
Speaker 5: majority in the Senate. And I think that's an opportunity
Speaker 5: for a brief civics lesson, Like here are my plans.
Speaker 5: These are my highest hopes. But if I don't have
Speaker 5: a democratic House and Senate, this can't happen for home ownership,
Speaker 5: This can't happen. For fear wages, this can't happen for reparations,
Speaker 5: this can't happen for a ceasefire. Whatever she's going to say,
Speaker 5: she needs to make sure she says these are my plans.
Speaker 5: And this is why I need you all to also
Speaker 5: ensure that the folks who think like me and see
Speaker 5: policy the same way are elected to the House and
Speaker 5: Senate one thousand.
Speaker 1: Percent, so long as it is bookended with where he.
Speaker 4: Is on that of course, absolutely, But what's frustrating to me,
Speaker 4: Angela and Andrew to an extent, what you all are
Speaker 4: pointing out that she needs to do the candidate, I agree,
Speaker 4: but her load is heavy. Now. Why she has to
Speaker 4: do all this I'm so angry and frustrated about this
Speaker 4: is because the media fails. Like that's the point you're making,
Speaker 4: Like when if they ever asked Donald Try about his policy.
Speaker 4: Even when you go back and look at that first
Speaker 4: Biden debate, I'm sorry, they both sounded out of it,
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, Joe, it wasn't Joe Biden's best moment,
Speaker 4: but it was even beyond guys, it was incoherent. Like
Speaker 4: if you go back, just take Joe Biden out of
Speaker 4: it and just go back and listen to Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: The lies will take you all dat account, but just
Speaker 4: listen to what that's my point, it was a new
Speaker 4: storyline to chase and it was like, ooh, let's talk
Speaker 4: about how old Joe Biden is and how ill equipped
Speaker 4: he is and completely ignore Donald Trump the things that
Speaker 4: they let this man get away with. And it's like,
Speaker 4: we put all this added pressure on Vice President Harris
Speaker 4: as a candidate who has to go up there and
Speaker 4: inform and convince and sway and do all the things,
Speaker 4: when really, if journalism, if the media landscape was informing people,
Speaker 4: she wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: To do that so much. And we went all this
Speaker 3: extra weight on voters.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, because the media is failing you, you
Speaker 4: have to now go out and get this information yourself.
Speaker 4: And I think these two things have a disastrous, adverse
Speaker 4: impact on our democracy.
Speaker 5: But it's always been that way since he's been around,
Speaker 5: like part of the reason. And we have to remember
Speaker 5: how Donald Trump got on the scene. He got on
Speaker 5: the scene doing all of this outrageousness. So of course
Speaker 5: he took outrageousness into his electoral strategy and it works
Speaker 5: and it will continue to work if people don't call
Speaker 5: him out for what he really is. And that's why
Speaker 5: I think, as frustrating as it is that she wouldn't
Speaker 5: just be able to come up there and be a
Speaker 5: diplomat and a leader. She's got to take him out
Speaker 5: at the knees because if she doesn't, now you're relying
Speaker 5: on the media to do something they've never been able
Speaker 5: to do, or at least they're not interested in doing.
Speaker 3: They want to talk about the outrageous thing.
Speaker 5: Why because it gets them clicks on their website, It
Speaker 5: gets them ratings on TV to talk about whatever he
Speaker 5: did that was outrageous, rather than the substance of the debate.
Speaker 5: Why the substance is a little more boring. She can
Speaker 5: make the substance more juicy by talk taking him out
Speaker 5: at the knees of his policy. Well, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: glad she can even do this in the debate. I know,
Speaker 5: we pulled this clip to and we're close to time,
Speaker 5: but it's not a clip. Donald Trump has flip flopped
Speaker 5: essentially on marijuana legalization and undermined Ron de Santis because
Speaker 5: of where Ron DeSantis stands on marijuana use in legalization. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and so Donald Trump is like, I'm basically for this
Speaker 5: ballad initiative, and him being for that ballid initiative will
Speaker 5: likely lead to more support for Kamala Harris because those
Speaker 5: are more progressive folks that typically support marijuana legalization. That said,
Speaker 5: Donald Trump now sounds like he's to the left of
Speaker 5: what the Biden administration has done, and Kamala Harris should say, well,
Speaker 5: since I ran for president, I got this a little
Speaker 5: fly in here to high I think. But she could say,
Speaker 5: since I ran for president, I have said this in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty. I was for legalization when I was a prosecutor.
Speaker 5: These are the things that I did.
Speaker 3: Despite what social media has told you, I actually kept.
Speaker 5: People of color out of jail for marijuana use and
Speaker 5: for selling marijuana. This is how I want to further
Speaker 5: what we've done in this administration. When Donald Trump was
Speaker 5: in office, he did none of these things. So it's
Speaker 5: nice to bring him into the fault. Donald, You're welcome
Speaker 5: to the party, but you're going to be on as
Speaker 5: a supporter of mine and not at the top of
Speaker 5: the ticket, not as president.
Speaker 1: You know, y'all CTAs in a minute, But I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask y'all, at the risk of maybe even trampling
Speaker 1: and sexism, I'm curious to know whether or not that no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is trafficking there. But I
Speaker 1: but I am curious, very specifically for y'all's thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: Is there a disposition that that that Kamala Harris can
Speaker 1: have that you think she will need to avoid for
Speaker 1: the purposes of of of who she's speaking to and
Speaker 1: who she hopes will be on the listening end of
Speaker 1: her words and that debate.
Speaker 4: Yes, sadly one, I want to say, the next time
Speaker 4: after our minipile, the next time people will hear from us,
Speaker 4: the debate will have happened, So we'll see how much
Speaker 4: this advice she took by the time we record next week. Sadly,
Speaker 4: And I know Andrew we've talked about, like, don't let
Speaker 4: them snatch our imagination. But I do not believe that
Speaker 4: she can go on this debate stage and talk about
Speaker 4: reparations like I think that is probably something that would
Speaker 4: would scare voters away.
Speaker 3: I don't think that she.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would probably stop it at the at the
Speaker 4: reparations thing. Everything else, I say, be bold, talk about it.
Speaker 4: I'm not against reparations. I think she can move that
Speaker 4: once she's in the White House and it has you know,
Speaker 4: those down ballot races count. She has a Congress that
Speaker 4: can support the commission that Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee pushed
Speaker 4: God rest her soul. That can happen. But I don't
Speaker 4: think she can say that on the debate thing.
Speaker 1: What about in her physical Yeah, I agree that as
Speaker 1: she should do or not.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Andrew, one of the things that
Speaker 5: I thought you did really well, and when people see
Speaker 5: the clip in this episode, they'll see it. There were
Speaker 5: things that were coming out of Rona Santis's mouth that
Speaker 5: were outrageous, and instead of you looking angry and being
Speaker 5: like you would be like like I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Oh my.
Speaker 5: I think that she should do some of that, And
Speaker 5: I also think there will be moments where she should
Speaker 5: look very stern, as stern as an instead of angry.
Speaker 5: And I think there's a distinction, and Kamala does that
Speaker 5: very well. She sounds like, you know, I'm very serious,
Speaker 5: I'm not playing games here. The one thing that I
Speaker 5: would like for her to avoid, and she did it
Speaker 5: in her debate. It happened when Tulca Gabber jabbed her,
Speaker 5: it happened when Joe Biden jabbed her, and whenever she's
Speaker 5: it actually happened in the interview with Dana, but you
Speaker 5: couldn't see because she was hunched over a little solshed
Speaker 5: over Kamala Harris when she gets defensive, does this shoulder
Speaker 5: shift thing. It's like, she does this, and I don't
Speaker 5: want her accounts. Yes, she does, and then she's like
Speaker 5: and it's like, okay, and I don't want her to
Speaker 5: do that because it looks like she's morphing into anger
Speaker 5: and I just want her to shift how she needs to.
Speaker 5: She can use her hands, she can do this, she
Speaker 5: can be here, she can point at him. There are
Speaker 5: things that she can do to be very stern, to
Speaker 5: look very prosecutor like, which actually boltes in her favor
Speaker 5: this election.
Speaker 3: And it did not in twenty twenty. So she needs
Speaker 3: to lean into that.
Speaker 5: She needs to be herself, like at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, forget everything all of us are telling you.
Speaker 5: Forget no cars, forget every policy they're telling you to
Speaker 5: push on that stage. Be yourself, follow your own black
Speaker 5: woman intuition. You can never go wrong there, That's what
Speaker 5: I'll tell her.
Speaker 4: I would like to strike my answer because I'm misunderstood.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you've missed he said this position, but
Speaker 3: you were like I shall say no reparations. Let Donald
Speaker 3: Trump bring it up. Reparation reparations. I'm just saying I
Speaker 3: don't think that's a position that she would champion on
Speaker 3: this particular.
Speaker 4: Like some of those things, we'll talk about after you
Speaker 4: get in, and we'll talk about it after you get it.
Speaker 3: Not if if she asked it, they please boll me.
Speaker 3: She got to go for it.
Speaker 4: Don't dance with the folks who brung you. Don't don't
Speaker 4: try to we are your base, we are your basember.
Speaker 5: Say instead of I'm speaking. I think she's done that enough.
Speaker 5: What she say if he cuts her.
Speaker 3: Off, she could say, watch your mouth.
Speaker 1: I actually might. I actually might say waters reclaim my time.
Speaker 4: You can say, she can say I'm speaking, or she
Speaker 4: could just keep talking making her point. Don't even acknowledge
Speaker 4: him to look at the camera, talk to the American people.
Speaker 1: Treat him like a fly. He's an irritant.
Speaker 3: That would be.
Speaker 5: But she starts swatting to like, I'm sorry everyone, but
Speaker 5: you know what she should Also, maybe she could consider saying,
Speaker 5: I would love to moderate this debate for you all,
Speaker 5: but I really want to let the American people hear
Speaker 5: my position.
Speaker 3: So if you wouldn't mind asking my opponent to wait
Speaker 3: his time.
Speaker 4: I don't want her to insult the moderate because that
Speaker 4: that I agree with that, but I think that was
Speaker 4: like a backfire on her.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like they're the people that you don't
Speaker 3: want to share question.
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask your dumb question.
Speaker 5: I would like her to say, I would like to
Speaker 5: use this time to address some serious matters.
Speaker 3: I guarantee she'll do that. I don't know. You didn't
Speaker 3: hear me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, No, no, I'm speaking over. I'm
Speaker 1: speaking over.
Speaker 3: And I didn't reclaim your time, brother, Nick, reclaim your time, brother.
Speaker 1: That The quick point is to make it a little
Speaker 1: funny by basically saying, whenever he stops talking, if he
Speaker 1: ever stops staking, you know, or or now getting back
Speaker 1: to the business of this debate, there's something that again.
Speaker 3: You know, are you finished? Are you done?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't let it. I wouldn't go are you finished?
Speaker 3: But I definitely.
Speaker 1: I think ever he finishes talking, whenever he stops.
Speaker 3: Talking, that's a really good ad.
Speaker 4: And I think this is something. It was her ad,
Speaker 4: and I think she could pick this up. Would you
Speaker 4: trust an accused rapists to pick up your kids. Would
Speaker 4: you trust uh, someone who talked about grabbing women by
Speaker 4: the pussy with your kids? Would you trust a convicted
Speaker 4: criminal with your kids?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Right, so why would you trust that person with the country.
Speaker 4: That was an ad That's not mine. But I think
Speaker 4: that would be a good thing for her for people
Speaker 4: who don't you know how many people? Yes, because if
Speaker 4: people aren't watching commercials, like when are you seeing these ads?
Speaker 3: They're popping up on gaming or wherever.
Speaker 1: But if you're streaming, me tell you, if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about Donald Trump rolled, he will be rolled
Speaker 1: and bowed over if she comes at him that hall.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm top.
Speaker 1: If you want to see that man turn all the
Speaker 1: way orange, that's what whatever is the next level of
Speaker 1: his coloration.
Speaker 3: Should start right now.
Speaker 5: Like I'm telling you guys, if she wants him flustered
Speaker 5: and unclear and unhinged, start get in this dude's head
Speaker 5: right now. If that's what I'm saying, have that whatever
Speaker 5: they think the closingess, have.
Speaker 3: Her open with that. Throw him off his life immediately.
Speaker 4: You know who did, freaking Elizabeth Warren the bloombird.
Speaker 3: He was like, let me think this dude out for
Speaker 3: that's what you got to do. Maybe they put you
Speaker 3: cannot come in like, oh, let me come in and
Speaker 3: look like I'm the lady.
Speaker 5: Like no, go balls to the wall, em meet walls,
Speaker 5: walls to the w A l Z immediately start there.
Speaker 1: Well, what we know about Donald Trump because he doesn't change,
Speaker 1: is it when when there is a thing that is
Speaker 1: bothering him, he's going to He's going to repeatedly go.
Speaker 5: Back to what I'm saying, no matter, no matter question.
Speaker 5: Get him in that loop immediately. You guys know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. She could literally throw him off the mark immediately.
Speaker 5: He's so predictable.
Speaker 4: But on the debate sta I don't want him to
Speaker 4: know her attack line before the debate stage you got
Speaker 4: we're coming up on time. Can we talk about what
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about on the mini pod?
Speaker 3: Do we have ideas?
Speaker 4: We got mini pods to drop every Monday, y'all? Oh,
Speaker 4: do y'all want to do the try conferences one? Well,
Speaker 4: because by the time this drops, it will be the kickoff.
Speaker 4: By the time the mini pod drops, which drops every Monday.
Speaker 10: It will will be starting CBC talk about I don't
Speaker 10: mind that, I like it, and we'll tune in to
Speaker 10: see if that's what we land on.
Speaker 3: That's not my c.
Speaker 4: That's not my ct I have a question for Angela
Speaker 4: for her ct akay. I think Angela's CTA is everybody
Speaker 4: get this newsletter. But I don't know anything about the newsletter.
Speaker 4: So tell us what is this newsletter?
Speaker 3: Where did it come? Who's writing the newsletter? Any?
Speaker 1: You should do that right after we do this, which
Speaker 1: is our CTAs are going to be two quick questions.
Speaker 1: Wrote a question.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, maybe the mini could be the fewer questions.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: We're gonna kick it. I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that. Okay, so we respond to.
Speaker 5: This is not rehearse because we all over yes, and
Speaker 5: will we be talking about so funny enough, Tiff, I
Speaker 5: don't know either. But we have a website called native
Speaker 5: landpod dot com and Lolo, who is our researcher, but
Speaker 5: she does a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Lolo wears a lot of hats. She was our booking
Speaker 3: producer at d NC.
Speaker 5: Lolo has decided that we need a newsletter, and so
Speaker 5: it's an opportunity. I think to go back and look
Speaker 5: at past clips, some viewer questions and some other stuff.
Speaker 5: I don't know, so I'm gonna be surprised, like y'all,
Speaker 5: and like Tip and like Andrew when.
Speaker 4: I see that it's like the news about this show. Yes,
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