1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is episode thirty eight thirty 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: eight counted of Native Lampid, where we give it to 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: you directly a breakdown of all things that are politics 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: and culture. We are your hosts, Tiffany Cross, Angela Ride Hello, 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: all right, what's up? Everybody up? 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: Tiff? What's going on? 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 4: And we're just staff there, you said, Andrew Will he 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: has his staff there, his gardener is oh here. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Everybody knows I cut my own grass. 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but you know what we 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: do have I do, Andrew? I do? 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: I do? 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: I do? 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Do hedges? 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 3: Do do hedges? Well? 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 5: What we got Angela speaking of doodo, Tiff and I 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 5: we're COVID positive, and Andrew it was not. 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: I don't know how that happened. Everybody on the team 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: got COVID apparently from the DNC, and we are now 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: just so social great social was crazy. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: Well well, putting some good in the air for y'all, and. 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: It is my negative multiple times. 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: Now. 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm very happy about that. Can I be honest? With y'all. 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: I never tested positive for COVID. I just knew I 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: had no I only at the very beginning I tested negative, 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: but I didn't. I was too weak to even go 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: get a COVID test because I was in my house alone, 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 4: like I just isolated. But I knew I had it 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: because when I had COVID before, like my my bones 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: apes and like how I felt before was exactly how 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: I felt all week. So I was comatos all week. 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 5: Like I didn't even have any of that. It was crazy. Andrew, 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: you missed this earlier on our on our pre pro call. 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: But then the pre pro call, I was saying I 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 5: got three boosters. Tip said she got four or five, 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 5: and I got hit way like less, like I had 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 5: a little bit of a call for two days. I 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: had sniffles, I was a little congested, but I wasn't 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: anywhere near as wiped out as Tip was knocked out 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: for the count for days for real. 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one time I remember getting it, it had 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: me like that. I mean I was shivers. I had 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: it all. It was crazy, And the good news is 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: is Tiff, I'm gonna put in the mail some of 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: NIM government tests. That guy a bunch. You could an 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: we haven't been surplus. I gotta get you some of those. Well, y'all, 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: I am, and I know the audience is excited that 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: y'all are back. Y'all are full, you know, full force 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: as best. 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: You can be. 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: You look good. Known the difference, we wouldn't have known 56 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: the difference, But I am curious to know what is 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: on y'all's mind today. We are beyond labor Day. Things 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: begin to sober and get very real from this point forward, 59 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: particularly as it relates to the election, and every every 60 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: day is a new one, and if feels like a 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: lifetime sometimes, and it also feels like we're running out 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: of time. 63 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 4: So well, I won't say what's keeping me up, because 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: everything keeps me up, but I what we talked about 65 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: during DNC and the show leading up to this is, 66 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: I know Angela's been eager to talk about debate prep, 67 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: which I'm curious both of you guys thoughts, because Angela 68 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: did debate prep with Andrew worked on his campaign. I've 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: only done debate prep with one candidate. It was Nick Mosby. 70 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: I worked on his campaign from mayor. But mostly I've 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: been on the journalism side of things. So I wanted 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: to today to talk about the debate because this is 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: the last show that we'll do before there is a debate, 74 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: and I just we have a lot of thoughts about 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: how Vice President Harris should handle Trump. That's the first thing. 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: The second thing is Angela is owed a dinner to 77 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: dinners if this debate actually happens, because we had a 78 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: wager last week that I I'm still not gonna be 79 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: convinced util I see both candidates hit that stage and 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: Angela is very clear she wants to dinners. It's not 81 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: just me and Andrew splitting the bill. It's got to 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 4: be one time. I'm paying for dinner, one time and dinner. 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: So if this debate happens, we need to talk about 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: where we're going to dinner. 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 5: So the bait is going to be our PM Italian 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 5: And if I get to dinner, I'll also get to 87 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 5: pick one of them. 88 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: Is rpm you get to pick both places? 89 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: Yes, our PM Dinners. 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 5: That's what's a really good black owned spot for next week. 91 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: And I'll tell everybody why we'll be in DC. 92 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: You know what he's talking about exactly. 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: The audience can tell us you all please drop us 94 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: some good black owned restaurants in DC that are nice. Uh, 95 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: So we can take Angela to dinner if this debate happens, 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: or she'll take us again. 97 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: All black DC restaurants. 98 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Are nice, Yeah, and don't I don't need nice. 99 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 5: So that's when I start your pick Andrews my angel 100 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: bet she wants on this. We're going to be in 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 5: DC next week because we will be at my favorite place. 102 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 5: It is the Black Nerd prom It is the Congressional 103 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 5: Black HAWKUS Foundation's annual legislative conference. It is all of 104 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 5: our old stomping grounds, really, because this is where I 105 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 5: got close to Andrew, This is where I got clostive, 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 5: and this is where I met a lot of my 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 5: DC friends and learned like black folks outside of Seattle, 108 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: where I'm from, and outside of the West Coast, there 109 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 5: are some of us that think very similarly. Aren't in 110 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 5: our for the upward mobility progression of liberation of our people? 111 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: And this is that time of the year where black 112 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 5: folks come together to talk about policy, and we will 113 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 5: be there doing a live podcast. We got Asked, be answered. 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 5: We will be live streaming from the Congressional Black Caucus 115 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: Foundations ALC. 116 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: So we can't wait to see. 117 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: You, I said, black nerd prom I apologize, but I 118 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: feel like it's like black homecoming, HBC homecoming, certainly for 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: I guess nerds if we're embracing that, you know. 120 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Yes, And I've been a part of many conversations where 121 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: we rank black conferences, like what's what's the dopis, what's 122 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: the ones you dope is like? And how you describe 123 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: each of them. I think that would be a good 124 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: mini pob Maybe not for this week, but one week. 125 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: Many problems can I say. 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 4: I know we got to get into the show, but 127 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: I just want to tell a really quicklyick quick story. 128 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: Angel I don't know if you remember this. I remember 129 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: when you got the job as executive director of the 130 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: Congressional Black Caucus. Now there's the foundation, which hosts the 131 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: conference annual legislative conference, and then there's the Legislative Body, 132 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: which is where Angela works. 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: Organization member service organization. 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 4: And you were I've always been bad with my phone, 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: but we were trying to connect and you were like, 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: call me, call me, call me. And I took like 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: days to hit you back, and finally we met at 138 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: say it used to be this little spy in Chinatown 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: and we were sitting at the bar and I was like, yeah, girl, 140 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: like what's going on? And you were like, Oh, I'm 141 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: going to be the new executive director to CBC. And 142 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: I thought it was the coolest job. I thought that 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: was so awesome. I was so excited for you, and 144 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: you were like I was trying to call you to 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: tell you, and we talked all about it. What year 146 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: was that, I don't even remember. 147 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 5: That was. I became CBCED in twenty ten, so it's 148 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: twenty ten. 149 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I just I remember that moment thinking like 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: that's so major because the person who had the job 151 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: before he was kind of like this King of DC 152 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: type figure, you know, and I was like a young 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,559 Speaker 4: person moving here in like two thousand and two thousand 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: and one, and I was like, I can't believe Angel 155 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: was going to be like that person taking the helm. 156 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: And it seems honestly like six months ago. It also 157 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: seems like a lifetime ago, you know. 158 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: It's so it is a lifetime ago. 159 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: And I do want to shout out the person who 160 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: was immediately before me was Patrece Willoughby and she now 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 5: runs policy for the Double A CP and no, no, no, 162 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: it's okay. The thing that you guys have is an 163 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: Ohio connection, Tip and she loves the podcast. 164 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: So Patrise, we love you, and just shouting you out. 165 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: There are a lot of I was no, no, no, I 166 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 5: know you were anywhere. I just wanted to make sure 167 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: I shouted her out too. But yeah, we have a 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: number of folks who've been in that role. She she 169 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 5: knows you to charge the sake we oh so sometimes 170 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: we must even Tip who has the memory of a 171 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: dog one elephant. 172 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: Sometimes that's up. 173 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: But yes, I do know I as long as the 174 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: current one. 175 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 5: Vince Evans, Yeah, it's all kind of problems happening today. 176 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: And here. 177 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: I corrected that. You see how I corrected that before you. 178 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: Vince, we love you. 179 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 5: He worked on Andrew's campaign, He worked on Kamala's camp. 180 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: He was a political director for Kamala Harris and he 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 5: went to go work with Joyce Batty and he's still 182 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 5: there with Congressman Stephen Horsford, who's the chair through the 183 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 5: end of the year. Anyway, besides getting all the CBC 184 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 5: is now used called the Black Nerve Prime for policy, 185 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: We'll move right into the show. 186 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: Andrew Gillip, you got the flow. 187 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, y'all that bars. I see the floor, I 188 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: see the flowruption I I I accept the challenge of 189 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,359 Speaker 1: going into this debate. Obviously, we will not be simulating 190 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: a debate for you. We lost that battle stimulate the debate. 191 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: I did not want to be here. Angela wanted us 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: and kick Tiff out. 193 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: That is good enough. 194 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: I will tune in the moderator. You got to be 195 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: the moderator. I could be the moderator. Moderator, as. 196 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 4: I was going to say a lot of my questions, 197 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if there would be things that y'all 198 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: would want to weigh in on, be. 199 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: Like next question please, of. 200 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Course we would. But you know what the funny thing 201 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: is is that I think it's important that people also 202 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: understand as we prepare for the debate, that a lot 203 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: of what is happening on that stage between those two 204 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: people is a highly choreographed not to say inauthentic, it's 205 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: because you get real individuals. But and you all may 206 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: agree or disagree with me here, but that debates are 207 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: really intended to say a certain thing, communicate a certain 208 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: thing to a certain audience, and you're not necessarily talking 209 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: to the entire audience every time you give a response, 210 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: and I just thought it was it put me in 211 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: the mind of the speech by VP Harris or acceptance 212 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: speech on that Thursday night, where you know, you had 213 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: different crowd to responding differently to different things that she 214 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: had to say. It was all, well, why does she 215 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: have to give credit to that first? Why couldn't we 216 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: start at this point? And you know, I kept trying 217 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: to at least tell people who I know who are 218 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: not as sort of politically engaged and involved, that this 219 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: is really a highly choreographed, in intricate, you know, dance 220 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: that the candidate is doing with the voter, especially when 221 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: you consider y'all the recent polling that's come out that 222 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: shows that we're pretty much, you know, level set, game 223 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: set we are. We're in a dead heat, and I 224 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: think a lot of us are really drunk off excitement 225 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: as we should be at a PEP rally slash sales 226 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: meeting for our candidate. But it really is time to 227 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: buckle down here. And I think that the debate happening 228 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: next week is going to be just one of those 229 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: I think very important and key indicators because it may 230 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,359 Speaker 1: be the only debate that we'll see these two individuals 231 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: on the same stage. Should have happened. 232 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 3: Do you think it's going to happen? 233 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think at this point I will 234 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: accept it that. 235 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: It will right right a week, he's you know, he's 236 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: gonna give it. 237 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna win Dixie. I'm going to win Dixie. A 238 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: budget as it relates. 239 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 5: To that, I'm not really worried about it. You're gonna 240 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: have to turn to your card. 241 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, a lot of. 242 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: They took all those away remembers. 243 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 5: Oh sorry, I didn't mean to trigger you. I think 244 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 5: you do have an credit card. I've seen it. 245 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: But I'm going to move right along. 246 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I wonder Angela, like, how many people actually 247 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: watch presidential debates. Now, this one I think will be 248 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: an anomaly because there's enthusiasm around this campaign now, right 249 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: now that Vice President Harris is at the top of 250 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: the ticket. I think it will be something to see. 251 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 4: I do not think this debate is going to really 252 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: slay any voter. I don't think that they're going to 253 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: necessarily expand their base. I honestly, you know, I know, 254 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: like white run newsrooms are always talking about these mysterious 255 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: swing voters. I really have my doubts if they exist, 256 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: if you are on the fence about these two very 257 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: different candidates, with very different policy platforms, with very different 258 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: life experience, with very different perspectives and points of view 259 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 4: and personalities. I begged somebody to explain to me how 260 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: that person is a possible swing voter. Even the networks 261 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: have gotten caught with their pants down, so to speak, 262 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: because they've had people on there who are like, no, no, no, 263 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: I said, I was a Trump supporter, and they still 264 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: put me on this panel as though like an independent 265 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: voter or an undecided voter. So I just I don't 266 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: know what the debate will result in in terms of 267 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: expanding the the base. At most, maybe it will impact 268 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: GLTV H, you know, people getting out the vote. 269 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: But what do you all think? 270 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 5: I think you know, first and foremost, I think it's 271 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 5: important to acknowledge that the two choices aren't just Trump 272 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 5: and Kamala Harris. There are also third party candidates in 273 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: some states. For example, RFK, who has dropped out, will 274 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 5: not be removed from the ballots in Wisconsin. In Michigan, 275 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 5: which is favorable to the Democratic Party, I don't know 276 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 5: what's going on with Jill Nim but that also could 277 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 5: be a factor. And then finally, the factor that we 278 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: all know and talked about on this podcast, especially when 279 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 5: Joe Biden was on, is apathy and whether or not 280 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 5: people decide to go out or not. So if people 281 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 5: see themselves reflected enough, or they get excited enough about 282 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: change or something different, they very well could go out. 283 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: And one of the things that I would love to 284 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 5: do here is play one of the clips that I 285 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 5: think that will work very well for Kamala Harris in 286 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 5: the debate if she is able to double down here, 287 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 5: and it is about what she knows about Donald Trump. 288 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: Let's roll that sound. 289 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 6: Before I was elected as Vice president, before I was 290 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 6: elected as United States Senator, I was the elected Attorney general, 291 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 6: as I've mentioned to California, and before that, I was 292 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: a courtroom prosecutor. 293 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all. 294 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 7: Kinds, creditors who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers, 295 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 7: cheaters who broke the rules. 296 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: For their own game. 297 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 6: So hear me when I say I know Donald Trump's type. 298 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: So Angela, I love, love, love that clip, and I 299 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: remember that speech. Let's on the other side of this 300 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: break Payson bills and then come back with some reactions 301 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: amongst the panel. 302 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: So I wanted to roll that because what has happened 303 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: is that has played so well well for Kamala Harrison 304 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: the campaign. They have used that same line, that same 305 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 5: refrain over and over again. 306 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: We see that happen in the black church often like that. 307 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: Thing where the whole you know, the church rubs, the 308 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 5: congregation of rubs. 309 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: People keep tapping back into that. 310 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 5: What I want to make sure that she does is 311 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: not necessarily go specific to the I know Donald Trump's 312 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 5: type line, but to double down as I am the 313 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: prosecutor and he is the comp what he should be 314 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 5: the convict. 315 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: He is the one who's facing sentencing. 316 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 5: We have said often since twenty sixteen that he's teflon 317 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 5: Don because nothing sticks. 318 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: This time, things seem to be sticking. 319 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: And so what I really want Tamila Harris to do 320 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 5: is double down and get in his head. She needs 321 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 5: to be treating this week and plus before this debate 322 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 5: as the opportunity to ready herself as a boxer would before. 323 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: This biggest match. 324 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 5: Get in his head, like start calling him Don the Khan, 325 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: start saying, you know, I was a prosecutor. I used 326 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: to prosecute John's Donald Trump is one of them. I 327 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 5: used to prosecute fraudsters. Donald Trump is one of them. 328 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: I used to prosecute folks who lied on their business 329 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: forms to ensure that they collected more fees, more money 330 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 5: from folks who they stole from contractors. I know the type, 331 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 5: and that is Don the Khan, and that is, unfortunately, 332 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 5: who I have to stand on the debate stage with. 333 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: It is a waste of my time, but I'm going 334 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 5: to do this for the American people so you all 335 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: can see the contrast. 336 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: That's where I really want her to be. 337 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 5: For some folks, they would say, especially in the Democratic Party, 338 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 5: that's below the bell. 339 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: You need to when they go low, we go hi. 340 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: Michelle Obama through it out the window, and so should 341 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris. 342 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: For this debate. 343 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 5: She needs to go low, strike him so low that 344 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 5: the ref doesn't know if it was below the belt 345 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 5: or not. She needs to be doing that starting now, 346 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: and I think she should do that in her opening remarks. 347 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: Of the debate. 348 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: Tiffany, what do you think would be the fatal flaw 349 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: in her performance? If, as I suspect, the Republicans are 350 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: planning to throw her off her game. She's been pretty even, 351 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: she's been pretty in control. She has controlled much of 352 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: the environment in which she has talked about him. This 353 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: will be different. Yeah, And if you're Donald Trump, your 354 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: job is also to throw her off her game so 355 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: that she can look like what to the American people. 356 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 4: So I think he's been trying to figure out how 357 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: to throw her off her game. What I think he 358 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: doesn't realize on what the American people will soon see 359 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 4: is black women are so used to people throwing us 360 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: off our game that we have learned to have a 361 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: plastered smile on my face, on our face while saying 362 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: f you the entire time. I don't think he's going 363 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: to be able to to be quite honest, she has 364 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 4: stood to Angelo's point. She has faced off with people 365 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: in the courtroom. She has faced off against political opponents. 366 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: She's quite frankly one more elections than he has. So 367 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: I would say even by her kind of rising above 368 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 4: some of his insults, that is enough. That's not maybe 369 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: not enough, but that is definitely something that will also 370 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: get in his head. I take Angelo's point about you 371 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: know us this week to get in his head and 372 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: and you know, kind of deliver these punches at him 373 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: and these insults to him. Well, you could argue they're 374 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: not insults, they're actually just factional or statements. Yeah, I 375 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 4: would say what we have to remember is when she 376 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: is speaking, she is speaking to the globe. She is 377 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: not just speaking to voters here in America. She is 378 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: speaking to President she of China, she is speaking to 379 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: President Modi of India, she is speaking to Angela Merkel like. 380 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: She is speaking to global leaders who are going to 381 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: be looking to her for her temperament because they are 382 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: eager to bring some sense of normalcy and confidence back 383 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 4: to the American positioning on the globe. So I think 384 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: she has to navigate that carefully. I have no doubts 385 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 4: about her ability to be able to do that. Again, 386 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: it's the duality of our kind as black women. I 387 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: think she will be able to throw a punch at 388 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 4: Donald Trump and also speak to even like the global markets, 389 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: you know, the financial markets, who will also be looking 390 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 4: at this debate. It's a very serious time and serious issues. 391 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: So this idea of like slinging insults back and forth 392 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: at each other, I really hope that she doesn't traffic 393 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: in that, but that she keeps it to just stating 394 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: the facts about him and answering the questions that the 395 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 4: way that she wants to answer them without stooping to 396 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 4: his level. But I want to be clear, I am 397 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: of the mindset that, yeah, go low. I don't mean 398 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: go low in the sense of, you know, don't go 399 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 4: gut her, but go low in the sense of, I 400 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: know how to throw a punch back at you. Don't 401 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 4: come for me if I didn't call for you, because 402 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna win this battle. And if you ever had 403 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 4: your soul snatched by a black women, you know we 404 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: can do it in very articulate and intellectual ways. We 405 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 4: don't have to snap our fingers and roll our necks. 406 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: We know how to do it in a way that 407 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: we are professional, and it's still cuts cuts you off 408 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 4: at the jugular. 409 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I'm clear, Andrew. I want to. 410 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: I want to, I want to. 411 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 5: I don't want to cut you off, but I want 412 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 5: to make sure I'm not talking about neck rolling and 413 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 5: snapping at all, so I know. 414 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: You are and I'm okaying as black women, how yeah, 415 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: can we can do that without without doing all the 416 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: extra it's housewives. 417 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: Yep, I don't want to at all. 418 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 5: I would say even the even the poort that you 419 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: just point you made about she's speaking to the globe. 420 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: She ain't speaking to the globe before. 421 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: She's speaking to this vote, these voters that she needs 422 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: to get to turn out in me. 423 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: She's speaking to. 424 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: The globe every time she speaks. 425 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: I understand saying that she will not be speaking to 426 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 5: the globe as commander in chief if she can't speak 427 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: to these people, to the she needs to turn out 428 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 5: in the next sixty days. So she's got to figure 429 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 5: out a way, just like every other candidate and every 430 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 5: other president before her has had to figure out a 431 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 5: way to navigate both worlds. We are in the fight 432 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 5: of our lives. She can't play this as politics as 433 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 5: usual because they're unusual politics, right anyway, Andrew, you were 434 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 5: going to go in and then I know, we have 435 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: a bunch of other clips to run. 436 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know. So, I think she's got a 437 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: couple of things that she's got to accomplish and also 438 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: be weary of this in this debate one, I think 439 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: very much. 440 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 7: So. 441 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: She is going to have to demonstrate a mature temperament 442 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't also feel above the room. So what I 443 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: mean by that is is, yeah, Trump is going to 444 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: throw some things out there, but my guess is is 445 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be when did you decide 446 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: to be black? I think it's going to be something like, 447 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: but you're a flip flopper. You said this da da 448 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: da da da da da da da, and now you've 449 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: changed your mind and now you're this, this, this is 450 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: that and a third And he'll do it in a 451 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: very you know, you know, second raid, pouty mood, no 452 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: offensive powerting second graders for the comparison, but you know 453 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: Trump is going to do it in a in a 454 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: in a juvenile way. But the point he will be 455 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: making will be likely a fair punch and also likely 456 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: delivered in a way that will be highly irritating. And 457 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: I think when I say she's going to have to well, well, 458 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: if he wants to say you've changed your position and example, yeah, 459 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: I'll use fracking for instance. She was opposed to to fracking, 460 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: which is the process of drilling deep below the Earth's 461 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: surface and unleashing gases and oils, making it easier for 462 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: folks to basically scout it, bring it out of the 463 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: ground monetize it. She's been against that as in her 464 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: previous positions all the way up into her run for president, 465 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: but as Attorney general of the state of California, she 466 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: even sued the Obama administration because of some of the 467 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: fracking practices that were that were unleashed. That being said, 468 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm certain she can deliver a line that basically says 469 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: that I learn every day. My values, however, as she 470 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: has already said, have not changed. I still believe in 471 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: global warming. I still believe that we've got to control 472 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: carbon emissions in this country. And what I've evolved on 473 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: is that there are a lot of strategies to get 474 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: us there. And but but by the way, let's talk 475 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: about you and where you've been on this, and and 476 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: then basically level him in that. And that was going 477 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: to be my point too, about what she's got to 478 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: be able to do. One meet him in the room, 479 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: but not go above the room. And sometimes what that 480 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: means is having to cut him at the knees without 481 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: a neck roll, without a roll of the eye, without 482 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: without about that. No, all I'm saying is I've seen 483 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: her move her body weight from one heel to the 484 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: other and it gives this look that only a black 485 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: mother can that that that you're on the receiving end of. 486 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: And it is a leveling look all are. 487 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: But are you saying that's wrong, like you don't want 488 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: her to do that? 489 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Because that, to me is what I'm giving is I 490 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: think she's going What I'm what I think she is 491 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: going to do is point two slice him by basically 492 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: making this always a comparison. I never want to see 493 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: her alone in any one question that is posed to 494 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: her answering that question about herself without also tying it 495 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: to what his record is on whatever that issue is. 496 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: Elections are choices, and we cannot leave it to the 497 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: American people. This panel us, who are highly informed to 498 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: be able to know on every contradiction that they may 499 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: want to throw at her, that he doesn't have the 500 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: same contradiction or worse, or that his position isn't worse 501 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: than where she is on that issue. And the only 502 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: way that will be accomplished it will not be through 503 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: the moderators. It's going to be through her basically saying this, 504 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: this is where I am, and I'm unchanging and my 505 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: values and principles on this, but let's talk about where 506 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: you are, and I think that was missing a bit 507 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: from her interview that she did, her first interview that 508 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: she did the other night with Dana Is. She did 509 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: say where she was and I've evolved and I've grown 510 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: in da da da da, But she didn't go back 511 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: to the reframe of where is my opponent on these things? 512 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Where is Donald Trump on these issues? He doesn't believe 513 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: in climate change, and he wants to through his Supreme 514 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: Court appointments, allow the goddamn regulated to regulate themselves, to 515 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: set the rules for themselves. So I think everything has 516 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: to be a one two and her response about her 517 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: record ought to be done in thirty seconds, and the 518 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: other minute thirty ought to be on him. 519 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: You know, to that point the Dana Bash interview that 520 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 5: you just referenced, there was something else that came up 521 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: in that interview that I was really really frustrated by. 522 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: But the question wasn't the thing that frustrated me most. 523 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: It was actually her response. And we. 524 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: We have a clip of where this first came up, 525 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: and this is what Dana played to Karmala Harris for 526 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 5: her to respond to you said, you don't think her 527 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 5: blackness is going to come up, I disagree. 528 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: Let's roll this down. 529 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 8: I've known her a long time, indirectly, not directly very much, 530 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 8: and she was always of Indian heritage, and she was 531 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 8: only promoting Indian heritage. 532 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: I didn't know she was. 533 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 8: Black until a number of years ago when she happened 534 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 8: to turn black. 535 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: And now she wants to be known as black. 536 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know is she Indian or is she black? 537 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: She is always college. 538 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 8: I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she 539 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 8: was Indian all the way and then all of a 540 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 8: sudden she made a turn and she went she became 541 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 8: a black. Just to be clear, I think somebody should 542 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 8: look into that too when you ask a continue in 543 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 8: a very hostile, nasty town. 544 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 3: So here's the theme. 545 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 5: I hope that when this comes up in the debate, 546 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 5: because again he is going to try to get in 547 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 5: her head, which is why I want her to get 548 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: in his head. Starting now, when this comes up in 549 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 5: the debate, I want her to say I want to 550 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 5: remind the American people that this was the birther in chief. 551 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 5: This is the same person that questioned the citizenship of 552 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 5: Barack Obama, who was born in Hawaii. I want to 553 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 5: remind the American people that even in his own party, 554 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 5: this is someone who questioned the citizenship and the identity 555 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 5: of Nikki Hayley, someone who was a Trump appointee. This 556 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 5: man has a problem with anyone who is other than 557 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 5: exactly what. 558 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: He looks like. 559 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: And I'm not going to stand here and defend who 560 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 5: I know I am as a black woman and an 561 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: Indian woman. I Am going to stand here and tell 562 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 5: you what I am about, what I am for, and 563 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: who I am for, and that is the entirety of 564 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 5: the American people, the full diversity of the American people. 565 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 5: Whereas this person wants to continue to promote the fear, 566 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 5: the xenophobia, the racism that he's trafficked in since he 567 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 5: was president and frankly before he was president. 568 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: She really deals with that and addresses it head on. 569 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 5: During the interview, she said, I'm not gonna it's the 570 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 5: same old playbook, but she didn't specify the playbook. We 571 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: have to treat the American people like they haven't followed 572 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 5: all of that. Some folks really don't know. They're just 573 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 5: getting familiar with Donald Trump. They're voting for the first time. 574 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: What did he do and why call him out on 575 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 5: those things call him out on why he actually doesn't 576 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 5: see us as all a part of this big family, 577 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: this big tent. 578 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: That's not what he sees. 579 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 5: He wants to other us to the point of trafficking 580 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: in white fear. Those are the same people that marched 581 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 5: up to the Capitol on January sixth, who he and 582 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: Bolden who. 583 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: He is one of them? And she needs to make 584 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: that really clear, I think in the debate when it comes, 585 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: because I. 586 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: Just want to say really quickly, just make sure listening 587 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: to this and not watching this. Angela was referencing that 588 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: because Dana Bash played it as a clip in her 589 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: interview that was, of course the interview from the National 590 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: Association of Black Journalists. And I have to say every 591 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: time I see it, I freaking cringe that he was 592 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: invited into that space. But anyway, go ahead, Andrew. 593 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: You know I just so first of all, I like 594 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: where you landed that, Angela, and I do think should 595 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: she have to go directly at it, that where she 596 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: wants to land is where everybody else is, and that 597 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: this is positive as you know, again this throwback vision, 598 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: this throwback man, this old outdated scale, you know, rerun 599 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: of a figure who wants to be our president, incapable 600 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: of taking us into the future, wants to live here. Well, 601 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: the rest of us. We want to live in a 602 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: house we can afford. We want groceries we can afford, 603 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. I think I have to 604 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: tell you on reflection, sometimes I think about my own 605 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: race and how race was thrown in there, and how 606 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: and truth what I knew about it was the more 607 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: they were able to keep white people's concentration on my race, 608 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: the worse it was for me. That I needed to 609 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: move them beyond a conversation about about race. And I 610 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: would imagine the Vice President Harris is getting similar advice, 611 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: which is probably why she did the shrug. And it's 612 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: beneath my station to respond in kind to that man, 613 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: is that she's probably getting similar advice and feedback that 614 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: in these seven key states that will matter the most 615 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: and will decide the election, the people who look like 616 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: him are going to be the ones in many ways making, 617 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, making that decision in some ways. And so 618 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: I think she's probably getting different guidance, and I can 619 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: understand what that guidance is based off of what we know. 620 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: When race is put in the four brain of folks 621 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: and how it can be weaponized. 622 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: The second thing is, Andrew, you didn't and you didn't 623 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: run from your race, and you didn't when it did 624 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 5: come up, you addressed it head on and you pivot 625 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: it quickly. 626 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: She can address it head on and pivot quickly. But 627 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: for her to not address it, the crazies who. 628 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: Look like us are using it as an opportunity to 629 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 5: say she see she doesn't identify as a black woman. 630 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: Shut that down. You have to shut the noise down 631 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: on both sides, and you did that very effectively. 632 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 4: I just think the mat Andrew, I just as a 633 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 4: refresher for our audience. I would love to play the 634 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: moment that race came up in your debate, Andrew, on 635 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: the other side of this break, we're going to see 636 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: how race came up in your debate and how you 637 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: addressed it because it was such an iconic moment. 638 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: So don't go anywhere. We'll see you on the other side. 639 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: Mister DeSantis has spoken. 640 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 6: Hey. 641 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 9: First of all, he's got neo Nazis helping him out 642 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 9: in the state. He has spoken at racist conferences. He's 643 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 9: accepted a contribution and would not return it from someone 644 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 9: who referred to the former president of the United States 645 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 9: as a Muslim nigg e R. When asked to return 646 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 9: that money, he said, no, he's using that money to 647 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 9: now fund negative ass Now I'm not calling mister Desanta's 648 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 9: a racist. 649 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm simply saying the racist believe he's a racist. Far Still, 650 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if they played it long enough. But 651 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: what kind of it still catches me about that is 652 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: his very delayed reaction. 653 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Andrew, that I get goose bumps hearing that. 654 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: But I'm curious to hear from you because I'm looking 655 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 4: at that version. Let me just say, we age beautifully, Andrew. 656 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: You've always been a good looking guy, and you look 657 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: good there. But I have to say you look great now. 658 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things about us as 659 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: a people, how we age. Even Donald was shocked to 660 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 4: find out the vice president here is with sixty It's 661 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: like you got to find out a whole lot about 662 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: black folks. 663 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I was looking at that clip 664 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: and I was thinking, I cannot believe I sat in 665 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: the chair and let them spray paint my head. I 666 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: was I was in it right here. 667 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 5: Well, you might not be able to tell but jo 668 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 5: Sis had him in a choke hold on the makeup too, 669 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: because I was like, what you're not about to do 670 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: is make it. 671 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: Let me what the good news is is. I think 672 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: from that I will say that there's not much I 673 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: would actually I wouldn't change anything about that question. That 674 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: response one. I was appreciative that the journalists laid up 675 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: the question bloaded with the facts, right. He didn't just 676 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: throw a simple thing out there. Are you racists or 677 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: aren't you? You know? He he, He gave the the 678 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: facts they're due. But I will say there were points 679 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: at points on the on the race where I was 680 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: doing interview after interview after interview television, I just sit 681 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: down on the chair and feed me into all these 682 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: different studios. Everyone wanted to ask me something about race, 683 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: and I bit every time. And what I in retrospect 684 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: probably would have thought a little bit more through is 685 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: I think I would have used maybe those occasions more 686 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: often to point out what this man's record and what 687 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: he would have done to people of color, to minorities, 688 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: to the majority of people in the state of Florida, 689 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: rather than allowing his statements and his hatred and vitriol 690 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: to sort of live, you know, a little bit longer, 691 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: either in that segment or beyond. And that's why I'm 692 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: saying I do think in this debate there is an answer. 693 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: I think black people want to hear people of color 694 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: and people from marginalized places, folks who have I want 695 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: the Michelle Obama response right when approaching the mountain, all 696 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: of us didn't get an escalator, right, that was just 697 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: you and y'all. But I also recognize that that message 698 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: can't be delivered from everybody, any time in it, at 699 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: any audience. I think she will have to be particular 700 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: about that, and I don't think it has anything to 701 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: do with her one to separate from man black. I 702 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: think she wholly embraces what that is, and I know 703 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: the botch you're talking about here on the internet. But 704 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: I also think think that the more she can trivialize 705 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: this man, yes, and not create common calls between white 706 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: folks who may think they've got something in common with 707 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: this guy in that way, I don't want her to 708 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: create the common cause. And I think giving that too 709 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: much air has the propensity for frankly overplaying it. I 710 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: think she ought to demure in a way that makes 711 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: him look miniature, like he doesn't deserve to be seated 712 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: at this table. 713 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 4: But I think he was doing that himself, to be 714 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: quite honest, and I think he does it every single time. Angela, 715 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 4: I think you would agree that he makes himself look 716 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 4: unworthy of the seat. I think the question, that's my point. 717 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 4: The question is to his followers, there's nothing this man 718 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 4: can do that they will accept. They would rather, like 719 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 4: I say, see this country burn to the ground before 720 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 4: they see a black woman run it. 721 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: Now. 722 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that the moderators will do. Vice President 723 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: has any such favors. The moderator will be David Muir 724 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: from ABC who hosts World News tonight, and Lindsay Davis, 725 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: who is an excellent journalist. Yes, and I'm happy to 726 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 4: see a black woman in that spot. I hope that 727 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 4: they do a great job like this moderator did and 728 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 4: present facts and also fact check the candidates, because that's 729 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 4: something that's grossly missing and it's something that the American people, 730 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 4: quite frankly deserve. My question to you two, how do 731 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 4: you think that will go over for Vice President Harris? 732 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: Should she say on that debate stage, I'm not saying 733 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 4: anything about Donald Trump being a racist, but racist see 734 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: him as a racist? 735 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Is that a line that can work for her? 736 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: Well, I think it may not work for him, because 737 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: we all know he is a pretty devout racist. I 738 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: mean there's no there's no screen, there's no anything to him, 739 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: So it would seem almost untruthful. Right, I ain't calling 740 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: you a racist? Well, no, she is a racist, right 741 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: like the bar is all already said, we know who you, 742 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: but where you, where you, where you where? You mistake 743 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: yourself and you mistake the rest of us. Is you 744 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: think all of us are that beneath the floor, all 745 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: of us are that low down that you can trigger 746 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: the issue of race, and all of a sudden have 747 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: a majority of Americans standing by you and with you 748 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: and cheering for you. And guess what that isn't the 749 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: America that I know. That isn't the America I believe in. 750 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: That isn't the one that has allowed me to you know, 751 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: ascend to you know, whatever the position is. And however 752 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: she wants to give again an embrace to the nation. 753 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: She did it when she said, only in America could 754 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: my story be possible? That Obama said similarly. 755 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 4: That's a slippery slope, Andrew, because I listen she she 756 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 4: will asked this question before about is America a racist country? 757 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: And I think a majority of black folks are with her, 758 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: like we understand the game. We've all had to be 759 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: ambidextrous this way and navigate how we present answers and 760 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 4: facts for the comfort of folks. To be quite frank, 761 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 4: I do wonder when we say these things like only 762 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 4: in America could my story be possible? Also only in America? 763 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 4: Could Donald Trump's story be possible in America? That we 764 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 4: re worse white mediocrity? Why I didn't say only in 765 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 4: America and especially in America, because not only in America. 766 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, I wonder if she can navigate that, if 767 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: she can point out, like, yes, this man is a 768 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 4: racist and we're navigating a racist infrastructure. How does that 769 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 4: enhance her campaign? How does that play with the voters 770 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 4: out there? How does that play with these Republicans who 771 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 4: are think she does it? 772 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean if I did it, if I were her 773 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: and she wanted to lean into this in some way 774 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: to say she ate some of this appetite that's out 775 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: there for her to speak more directly to it is 776 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you know, regardless of how I feel about 777 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: him being a racist or whether America agrees with me 778 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: in that regard. It has absolutely nothing to do with 779 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: what he's going to do every single day to help 780 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: every day American people afford to keep a roof over 781 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: their head, food on the table, maybe save up for 782 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: enough money to take a vacation every once in a while. Right, 783 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: So I would say, bring it back, put him in 784 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: the corner, put his time out, but always bring it 785 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: back to what you're going to do for the American people. 786 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: We don't benefit by a race debate between the two 787 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: of them. He isn't even intelligent enough to engage in 788 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: that in any real way. And I don't trust the 789 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: media to do it wholeheartedly. I trust them to be 790 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: frankly pretty tepid with it. And that leaves a big 791 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: lift for her. And I just don't think that the 792 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: lesson that we need her to be giving next week 793 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: is going to be a lesson on race. 794 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly her physical space. He did stage with Harry. 795 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 4: If he gets in her physical space, which I do 796 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: not put it beyond him, we'll see. 797 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 3: I don't know why that. 798 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll have, you know, very opposite ends of 799 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: the podium and microphones. But if he does walk over 800 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 4: and get in her physical. 801 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't ignore him, right, Like, how. 802 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 3: Should she address that? And do we think that will 803 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 3: even happen? 804 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: I think she ought to dress him up and down 805 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: with her. 806 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 3: I would think, give me fifty feet. 807 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: Like I would almost step back, like you know, That's what. 808 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying, got him like the clown he is. I 809 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: think we got to her. 810 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: I think it's possible. That's what I think is the 811 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: genius Angela. I agree with you. I think that's the 812 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: genius in her ability is. I think she will do 813 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: some undressing in a way that won't seem tasteless and then. 814 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 5: Address and avoid. And that's my only point. Like we 815 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 5: ran one of the clips. I think y'all have clips too. 816 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 5: We ran one of them, and I'm saying that she 817 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 5: has to address the thing head on. There are people 818 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 5: who are on the margins that aren't decided because of 819 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 5: that this dream that you the place where this is 820 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 5: the only place in the world where her story could 821 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 5: be possible. She has to convey it's the American people 822 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 5: that they are the key to her fulfilling the rest of. 823 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: The American dream. 824 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 5: Debates are for several things, to draw contrasts, to talk 825 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 5: about records, to fact check, and most of the time 826 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 5: that ends up being on the candidates because especially with 827 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 5: the debate, the Presidential Commissions on Debates or whatever it's called, 828 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 5: they told them the moderators they don't have to fact 829 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 5: check anymore. It's an opportunity for her to show leadership. 830 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 5: People have said for the last several years they haven't 831 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 5: seen enough of Kamala. We know that some of that 832 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 5: is because the media hasn't gone lives for some of 833 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 5: the events that she's done. The other thing that it 834 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 5: does is show oratory prowess. Kamala Harris has demonstrated that 835 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 5: in presidential debates. In primary presidential debates, she did it 836 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 5: with Joe Biden, had a very significant moment that was 837 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 5: about race. So I think that she has to lean 838 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 5: into her strengths. It has to ring true and be 839 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 5: authentic to who she is, and we cannot try to 840 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 5: conform her into the female version of Barack Obama or 841 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 5: the black woman version of Joe Biden. 842 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: They need to let her be her. She can close 843 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 3: an argument. That is what she's done for many years. 844 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 5: She is the most qualified person to ever run for president, 845 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 5: show people why that's all I say that. 846 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: I believe that, and I don't just say it. I 847 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think one thing means you can't 848 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: do the other. 849 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 5: There just is a lot on this podcast about why 850 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 5: she needs to avoid race, and I think that is 851 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 5: actually being very difficult. 852 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't mean to say avoid race. 853 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: I would avoid a lecture of the American people about 854 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: it because I don't think they find themselves in that equation. 855 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they see themselves at the end of 856 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: that Why you just went through this whole thing and 857 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: you're doing what about my assurance? And because people are 858 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: interested in what have you done for me lately? And 859 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: whether she takes umbrage at him, you know, throwing an insult. 860 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 5: It's not that she has to throw an insult that 861 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 5: I guess. 862 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 3: I definitely hear you on that tip. I agree. 863 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 5: I'm not talking about her throwing insults that are She 864 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 5: just was saying she needs to talk policy. I talked 865 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 5: about contrast record. All those things are policy based. I'm 866 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 5: saying she cannot go on here and not hit him. 867 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 5: I'm not talking about undeserved hits. I'm talking about deserved 868 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 5: hits that are policy based, that are fact based, that 869 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 5: plant people in where. 870 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 3: Like what the contrast really is anyway, Tip, I wanted 871 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 3: to defer. 872 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 4: Well, I agree with all that, and and I think 873 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 4: I honestly think that she has the skills the skill 874 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: set to do that. 875 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I want to. 876 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 4: I think black folks are overwhelmingly with her, you know, 877 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 4: I know, we talked about all people saying she's not black. 878 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 4: I do not believe there are actual active people who 879 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 4: are registered voters, who are quote unquote swing voters who 880 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 4: question her blackness. I think, if you want to cite that, 881 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 4: those are social media people say that on social media. 882 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 4: Those are thoughts maybe real life people who we don't 883 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 4: have any record of if they're registered to vote or not. 884 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: So I'm not sure that her spending time, you know, 885 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 4: convincing about her blackness or her you know, throwing blows 886 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 4: to Donald Trump will be as effective as her talking 887 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 4: to what her policy plan is and how it directly 888 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 4: impacts the people, whilst with an st also throwing a 889 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 4: punch at him in a very intellectual way, which I 890 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 4: believe that she can. I think there are a lot 891 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 4: of things happening across the globe that impact directly policy 892 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 4: here in America, and one of those things that will 893 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 4: definitely come up is the border. So I know we're 894 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 4: coming up on a break. On the other side of 895 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 4: this break, though, I want to get into something that 896 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 4: happened this week in the Northern Triangle of Central America 897 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 4: and talk about what I think Donald Trump will bring 898 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 4: up on the global stage and have a SoundBite that 899 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 4: he brought up specifically with it was either Joe Biden 900 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton. Will figure it out when we play the 901 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 4: sound bite on the other side of this break, So 902 00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 4: don't go anywhere. 903 00:44:59,600 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 904 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 905 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 6: Hillary Clinton. 906 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 8: In terms of having people come into our country, we 907 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 8: have many criminal illegal aliens. When we want to send 908 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 8: them back to their country, their country says we don't 909 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 8: want them. In some cases they're murderers, drug lords, drug problems, 910 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 8: and they. 911 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: Don't want them. 912 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 8: And Hillary Clinton, when she was Secretary of State, said 913 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 8: that's okay, we can't force it into their country. Let 914 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 8: me tell you, I'm going to force them right back 915 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 8: into their country. Their murderers and some very bad people, 916 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 8: and I will tell you very strongly. When Bernie Sanders 917 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 8: said she had bad judgment, she has really bad judgment. 918 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 8: Because we are letting people into this country that are 919 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 8: going to cause problems and crime like you've never seen. 920 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 8: We're also letting drugs pour through our southern border at 921 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 8: a record clip, at a record clip, and it shouldn't 922 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 8: be allowed to happen. 923 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 4: So fact check that was not true at the time, 924 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 4: nor is it true today. And I think it's important 925 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 4: for the moderators. I don't even think the should be 926 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 4: the responsibility of the candidate, but the moderators to correct 927 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 4: that record because you constantly hear migrant crime. First of all, 928 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 4: it is not illegal aliens, it's undocumented immigrants. I hope 929 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 4: nobody out there parents's talking points, but it's just not true. 930 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 4: The data doesn't show it. Law enforcement agencies don't show 931 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 4: that this uptick and crime due to undocumented migrants here. 932 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 4: But I wanted to bring this up because you guys 933 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 4: may have heard, or maybe you didn't, that the United 934 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 4: States seized the airplane of outgoing President Moduro of Venezuela, 935 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 4: and I want to say one that was just the 936 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 4: most gangster ish I had seen in a long time 937 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 4: the United States straight up like the repollman and went 938 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 4: and got this dude's plane and took it. They say, 939 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 4: because he was in violation of sanctions. Now, Maduro, I say, 940 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 4: outgoing president, because in the last presidential election, his opponent 941 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 4: got more than half the votes than Maduro Gonzalez is 942 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 4: the legitimate president that the United States is recognizing. I 943 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 4: think no one has said this. This is just me 944 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 4: reading several articles on this and drawing my own conclusion. 945 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 4: I think that the United States is applying pressure to Maduro, 946 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 4: saying you better accept these election results and get out 947 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 4: because clearly we're tilting our thumb on the scale for Gonzales. 948 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 4: Why this matters here is because the border is a 949 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 4: huge challenge. It's a talking point. Democrats were not talking 950 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 4: about the border ten years ago. This is a problem 951 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 4: with them playing defense and having to respond to things 952 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 4: because the Republicans can invent something being an issue that 953 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 4: wasn't an issue, and then all of a sudden, our 954 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 4: whole policy platform is changing. I think they're saying, you 955 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 4: got to get out of office and let Gonzales take over, 956 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 4: or we're going to make more problems for you. His 957 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 4: plane is the equivalent to Air Force one. It would 958 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 4: be like China coming over here taking Air Force one 959 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 4: and Air Force two saying, yop, y'all allw us too 960 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 4: much money, We're taking it now. If they cleared that, 961 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 4: because Venezuela is a pretty much it's it's emptied out. 962 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 4: The biggest gang in Colombia right now are Venezuelan's And 963 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 4: you guys may remember Hugo Chavez who hated Bush. Venezuela 964 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 4: used to have so much money, they were swimming in money. 965 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 4: And then I don't know if you remember Andrew at 966 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 4: the u N when Chavez was on there. 967 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 3: He was like, do y'all smell that. 968 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: Smell was just here. 969 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 3: They hated Bush like they were so they. 970 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: Went low America giving. 971 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 4: They were bawling, and now they are a distraught country. 972 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 4: And so this is an example of how what happens 973 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 4: over there is impacting what happens here, because if these 974 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 4: countries were functional, and if they were not impacted by 975 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 4: global policy, including American policy, that would slow down migrants 976 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 4: crossing into the border who are desperate. Some of these 977 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 4: places are narco states, meaning the drug lords are pretty 978 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 4: much running the government, and these mothers are desperate. So 979 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 4: I would love to hear Vice President harrisonince this was 980 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 4: something that was in her portfolio as vice. 981 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: President exactly Tiffany, because I think a lot of people 982 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: confuse that they keep saying she was in charge of 983 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: the immigration at the border, but her assignment was different. 984 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 4: Yes, she was focused on policy in the countries of 985 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 4: nor the home countries of where she was. She was 986 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 4: never responsible for standing out on the border with a 987 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 4: flashlight like, Oh no, you don't like that's ridiculous, But 988 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 4: that is how elementary the Republican talking points are that 989 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 4: they presented that way to people. Look, I'm not trying 990 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 4: to say that the border is not a challenge. It 991 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 4: most certainly is a challenge. These cities do not have 992 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 4: the resources to continue to have the influx of the undocumented. 993 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 4: We are not a heartless country. We ought to you know, 994 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 4: make this, you know, support people however we can. But 995 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 4: if we can make these or help make these countries stable, 996 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 4: that will will impact a lot of what happens here. 997 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 4: And it's really sad to me because we played a 998 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 4: lot of sound on this show from people in Chicago 999 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 4: to New York talking about how frustrated they are with 1000 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 4: the migrants coming in, and I just want us to 1001 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 4: be careful about pitting these communities against each other and 1002 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 4: really having a solid understanding of what's happening and how 1003 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 4: this exactly impacts us. Angela, I think you when we 1004 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 4: talked about fifty cent and Mayor Adams when he was 1005 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 4: giving out the cards to people, they were like black 1006 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 4: owned businesses in New York, Yes, yes, And Angela made 1007 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 4: the point these are black owned businesses, like this was 1008 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 4: helping everybody, but people read the headline and not the 1009 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 4: story and didn't really understand it. So I think this 1010 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 4: is going to be something that comes up on the 1011 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 4: debate stage, and I hope that she's able to address it. 1012 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 4: I hear your point, Angela about the media didn't really 1013 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 4: cover her, but I would also say broadcast maybe didn't, 1014 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 4: but she was covered and people have to take responsibility 1015 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 4: for getting that information. You know, she was not at 1016 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 4: the top of the ticket, she wasn't the president. And 1017 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 4: people who are like, well, we don't know her, we 1018 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 4: haven't heard from her, well, you know, a part of 1019 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 4: that is you have to go out and get information. 1020 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 4: You have to have some intellectual curiosity about her and 1021 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 4: the policies that she makes. I know people disagree with 1022 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 4: me on this. Me and Jamal Samos always argue about this. 1023 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 4: It's like, you can't blame the voters, I blame I 1024 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 4: blame us a little bit. 1025 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 3: You can. 1026 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, she has sixty 1027 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 5: one days left. So you can either take the time 1028 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 5: that sixty one days to tell them what they should know, 1029 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 5: or you can inform them. And this is going to 1030 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 5: be a really large audience for them to understand what 1031 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 5: was in your portfolio? Vice President Harris? What were those accomplishments? 1032 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 5: Can we hear about those? Because sadly we didn't read 1033 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 5: the papers we should have read. Sadly we didn't see 1034 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 5: it covered on the channels we watched. So what did 1035 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 5: you actually do? It's her opportunity not to scold them, 1036 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 5: but to bring them into the fold. 1037 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: So, Angela, if the dress down is like we saw 1038 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 1: with Hillary, Trump gets up there on basis this murdered 1039 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: people because of Biden and Harris, and you know what 1040 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: they've done, led to such and such and such and such, 1041 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: all the hyper stuff that we saw him do, just 1042 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: their line out of his ears, right, But I suspect 1043 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be the same kind of thing that 1044 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: he will do in this upcoming debate. How does she 1045 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: separate in some way from but also embrace what they've 1046 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: done as an administration. What's her response to that level 1047 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: of like, well, she ain't true. 1048 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just not right. 1049 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: She is just not true. 1050 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 5: If they're not going to fact check, and especially if 1051 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 5: they leave the mites on so they can talk over 1052 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 5: each other. Every time he lies, she should say that's 1053 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 5: a lie. That's a lie to that's also a lie. Now, 1054 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 5: now is my opportunity to speak. Because just because words 1055 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 5: are coming out of someone's mouth does not make them fact. 1056 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 3: He is entitled to his own perspective. He is not 1057 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 3: entitled to his own set of facts. 1058 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 5: So let me actually tell you what happened since I've 1059 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 5: been irresponsible for immigration and border crossings. Border crossings have 1060 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 5: actually gone down by x percent. Like she can go 1061 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 5: in and that and I think that's the best thing 1062 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 5: to do. People need to know because he says it passionately, 1063 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,479 Speaker 5: even his supporters. It does not make it true. 1064 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 3: Because you saw it in one of his campaign as 1065 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 3: it does not make it true. But don't worry, y'all. 1066 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 5: I'm here today to give you the facts for you 1067 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 5: to actually make your own decision and go into the 1068 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 5: voting booth and make the right decision. 1069 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 3: That's what I think she should do. 1070 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 4: Yeah too, And I hope she has her policy plan. 1071 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 4: I haven't gone to her website. I know she hasn't 1072 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 4: had her policy plan up there, I think, which is 1073 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 4: an unfair criticism. I think, you know the way that 1074 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 4: she came onto the campaign, It normally takes two to 1075 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 4: three months to do that, and people were looking for 1076 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 4: it three weeks after she had been there. But for 1077 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 4: the people who will continue to say, well, I don't 1078 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 4: know her, I don't know where she stands on things, 1079 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 4: well what does she mean? I hope that they will 1080 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 4: be able to go to her website and look at 1081 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 4: her policy plans, her policy proposals, and look at how 1082 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 4: it specifically impacts them. 1083 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,959 Speaker 1: Even in her doing. I'm with you, Tiff. I hope 1084 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: that in this however setting that it's contrast contrast contract layout. 1085 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: I want to fit. You know, what does she say? 1086 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: Twenty five million new small businesses open in her first 1087 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: four years. For in her first term in office, I 1088 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: want to increase the tax benefit for anyone who wants 1089 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: to start a new business doubling, tripling the the the 1090 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: tax benefit that you get and the tax break that 1091 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: you get, whatever her tax break is going to be 1092 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: for middle class folks, and then say, and by the way, 1093 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: if you're looking for Trump's position on this, it could 1094 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 1: be summed up real simply it's tax breaks for the 1095 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: one percent of Americans. And then you know, just sort 1096 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: of continuously show the difference between the two of them, 1097 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: because you know what obsesses me and my frustration with 1098 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: media is it's sort of like, well, where's your policy 1099 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: on this and where's I can't remember a time they 1100 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: have covered Trump about. 1101 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 3: Dam But that, again, is not a contrast that she 1102 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 3: should point out. 1103 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 5: You will know that Maya gets on air, they broadcast 1104 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 5: the foolishness that comes out of his mouth. But they 1105 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 5: expect me to give you a white paper rundown in 1106 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 5: thirty seconds about what my homeownership policy is. Well, I'm 1107 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 5: here today to tell you this because I'm doing this, 1108 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 5: y'all because I just went on her website tip it's 1109 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 5: still not up. I hope by the time the debate happens, 1110 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 5: she can say go to Kamalaharis dot com, as Andrew 1111 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 5: did every time during the debate, because you don't have 1112 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 5: time in those ninety second answers to go get in everything. 1113 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 5: And also for Kamala, who is very cerebral and she 1114 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 5: kind of gets tongue tied when she is talking about policy, 1115 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 5: she may not be able to go right to a 1116 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 5: fact in that moment because she's wording off an attack 1117 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 5: from an abuser in that instance. Here's what you all 1118 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 5: need to know for home ownership, with the help and 1119 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 5: I hope she does this too, with the help of 1120 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 5: a democratic House and Senate. 1121 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 3: These are my plans. Why should she do that? 1122 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 5: Because there are still some really tough races that she 1123 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 5: needs that she will need to have one in order 1124 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 5: to govern the way that she'd like to. She will 1125 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 5: need a majority of the House, she will need a 1126 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 5: majority in the Senate. And I think that's an opportunity 1127 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 5: for a brief civics lesson, Like here are my plans. 1128 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 5: These are my highest hopes. But if I don't have 1129 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 5: a democratic House and Senate, this can't happen for home ownership, 1130 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 5: This can't happen. For fear wages, this can't happen for reparations, 1131 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 5: this can't happen for a ceasefire. Whatever she's going to say, 1132 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 5: she needs to make sure she says these are my plans. 1133 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 5: And this is why I need you all to also 1134 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,919 Speaker 5: ensure that the folks who think like me and see 1135 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 5: policy the same way are elected to the House and 1136 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 5: Senate one thousand. 1137 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: Percent, so long as it is bookended with where he. 1138 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 4: Is on that of course, absolutely, But what's frustrating to me, 1139 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 4: Angela and Andrew to an extent, what you all are 1140 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 4: pointing out that she needs to do the candidate, I agree, 1141 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 4: but her load is heavy. Now. Why she has to 1142 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 4: do all this I'm so angry and frustrated about this 1143 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,479 Speaker 4: is because the media fails. Like that's the point you're making, 1144 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 4: Like when if they ever asked Donald Try about his policy. 1145 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 4: Even when you go back and look at that first 1146 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 4: Biden debate, I'm sorry, they both sounded out of it, 1147 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, Joe, it wasn't Joe Biden's best moment, 1148 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 4: but it was even beyond guys, it was incoherent. Like 1149 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 4: if you go back, just take Joe Biden out of 1150 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 4: it and just go back and listen to Donald Trump. 1151 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 4: The lies will take you all dat account, but just 1152 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 4: listen to what that's my point, it was a new 1153 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 4: storyline to chase and it was like, ooh, let's talk 1154 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 4: about how old Joe Biden is and how ill equipped 1155 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 4: he is and completely ignore Donald Trump the things that 1156 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 4: they let this man get away with. And it's like, 1157 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 4: we put all this added pressure on Vice President Harris 1158 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 4: as a candidate who has to go up there and 1159 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 4: inform and convince and sway and do all the things, 1160 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 4: when really, if journalism, if the media landscape was informing people, 1161 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 4: she wouldn't have. 1162 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 3: To do that so much. And we went all this 1163 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 3: extra weight on voters. 1164 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, because the media is failing you, you 1165 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 4: have to now go out and get this information yourself. 1166 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 4: And I think these two things have a disastrous, adverse 1167 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 4: impact on our democracy. 1168 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 5: But it's always been that way since he's been around, 1169 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 5: like part of the reason. And we have to remember 1170 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 5: how Donald Trump got on the scene. He got on 1171 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 5: the scene doing all of this outrageousness. So of course 1172 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 5: he took outrageousness into his electoral strategy and it works 1173 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 5: and it will continue to work if people don't call 1174 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 5: him out for what he really is. And that's why 1175 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 5: I think, as frustrating as it is that she wouldn't 1176 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 5: just be able to come up there and be a 1177 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 5: diplomat and a leader. She's got to take him out 1178 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 5: at the knees because if she doesn't, now you're relying 1179 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 5: on the media to do something they've never been able 1180 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 5: to do, or at least they're not interested in doing. 1181 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 3: They want to talk about the outrageous thing. 1182 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 5: Why because it gets them clicks on their website, It 1183 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 5: gets them ratings on TV to talk about whatever he 1184 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 5: did that was outrageous, rather than the substance of the debate. 1185 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 5: Why the substance is a little more boring. She can 1186 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 5: make the substance more juicy by talk taking him out 1187 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 5: at the knees of his policy. Well, you know, I'm 1188 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 5: glad she can even do this in the debate. I know, 1189 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 5: we pulled this clip to and we're close to time, 1190 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 5: but it's not a clip. Donald Trump has flip flopped 1191 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 5: essentially on marijuana legalization and undermined Ron de Santis because 1192 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 5: of where Ron DeSantis stands on marijuana use in legalization. Yeah, 1193 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 5: and so Donald Trump is like, I'm basically for this 1194 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 5: ballad initiative, and him being for that ballid initiative will 1195 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 5: likely lead to more support for Kamala Harris because those 1196 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 5: are more progressive folks that typically support marijuana legalization. That said, 1197 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 5: Donald Trump now sounds like he's to the left of 1198 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 5: what the Biden administration has done, and Kamala Harris should say, well, 1199 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 5: since I ran for president, I got this a little 1200 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 5: fly in here to high I think. But she could say, 1201 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 5: since I ran for president, I have said this in 1202 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. I was for legalization when I was a prosecutor. 1203 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 5: These are the things that I did. 1204 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 3: Despite what social media has told you, I actually kept. 1205 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 5: People of color out of jail for marijuana use and 1206 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 5: for selling marijuana. This is how I want to further 1207 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 5: what we've done in this administration. When Donald Trump was 1208 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 5: in office, he did none of these things. So it's 1209 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 5: nice to bring him into the fault. Donald, You're welcome 1210 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 5: to the party, but you're going to be on as 1211 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 5: a supporter of mine and not at the top of 1212 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 5: the ticket, not as president. 1213 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, y'all CTAs in a minute, But I wanted 1214 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: to ask y'all, at the risk of maybe even trampling 1215 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: and sexism, I'm curious to know whether or not that no, no, no, 1216 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it is trafficking there. But I 1217 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: but I am curious, very specifically for y'all's thoughts on this. 1218 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Is there a disposition that that that Kamala Harris can 1219 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: have that you think she will need to avoid for 1220 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: the purposes of of of who she's speaking to and 1221 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: who she hopes will be on the listening end of 1222 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: her words and that debate. 1223 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 4: Yes, sadly one, I want to say, the next time 1224 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 4: after our minipile, the next time people will hear from us, 1225 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 4: the debate will have happened, So we'll see how much 1226 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 4: this advice she took by the time we record next week. Sadly, 1227 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 4: And I know Andrew we've talked about, like, don't let 1228 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 4: them snatch our imagination. But I do not believe that 1229 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 4: she can go on this debate stage and talk about 1230 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,959 Speaker 4: reparations like I think that is probably something that would 1231 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 4: would scare voters away. 1232 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that she. 1233 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would probably stop it at the at the 1234 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 4: reparations thing. Everything else, I say, be bold, talk about it. 1235 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 4: I'm not against reparations. I think she can move that 1236 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 4: once she's in the White House and it has you know, 1237 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 4: those down ballot races count. She has a Congress that 1238 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 4: can support the commission that Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee pushed 1239 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 4: God rest her soul. That can happen. But I don't 1240 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 4: think she can say that on the debate thing. 1241 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: What about in her physical Yeah, I agree that as 1242 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 1: she should do or not. 1243 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Andrew, one of the things that 1244 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 5: I thought you did really well, and when people see 1245 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 5: the clip in this episode, they'll see it. There were 1246 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 5: things that were coming out of Rona Santis's mouth that 1247 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 5: were outrageous, and instead of you looking angry and being 1248 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 5: like you would be like like I can't believe it. 1249 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Oh my. 1250 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 5: I think that she should do some of that, And 1251 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 5: I also think there will be moments where she should 1252 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 5: look very stern, as stern as an instead of angry. 1253 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 5: And I think there's a distinction, and Kamala does that 1254 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 5: very well. She sounds like, you know, I'm very serious, 1255 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 5: I'm not playing games here. The one thing that I 1256 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 5: would like for her to avoid, and she did it 1257 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 5: in her debate. It happened when Tulca Gabber jabbed her, 1258 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 5: it happened when Joe Biden jabbed her, and whenever she's 1259 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 5: it actually happened in the interview with Dana, but you 1260 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 5: couldn't see because she was hunched over a little solshed 1261 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 5: over Kamala Harris when she gets defensive, does this shoulder 1262 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 5: shift thing. It's like, she does this, and I don't 1263 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 5: want her accounts. Yes, she does, and then she's like 1264 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 5: and it's like, okay, and I don't want her to 1265 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 5: do that because it looks like she's morphing into anger 1266 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 5: and I just want her to shift how she needs to. 1267 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 5: She can use her hands, she can do this, she 1268 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 5: can be here, she can point at him. There are 1269 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 5: things that she can do to be very stern, to 1270 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 5: look very prosecutor like, which actually boltes in her favor 1271 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 5: this election. 1272 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 3: And it did not in twenty twenty. So she needs 1273 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 3: to lean into that. 1274 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 5: She needs to be herself, like at the end of 1275 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 5: the day, forget everything all of us are telling you. 1276 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 5: Forget no cars, forget every policy they're telling you to 1277 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 5: push on that stage. Be yourself, follow your own black 1278 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 5: woman intuition. You can never go wrong there, That's what 1279 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 5: I'll tell her. 1280 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 4: I would like to strike my answer because I'm misunderstood. 1281 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 3: I didn't know you've missed he said this position, but 1282 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 3: you were like I shall say no reparations. Let Donald 1283 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 3: Trump bring it up. Reparation reparations. I'm just saying I 1284 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 3: don't think that's a position that she would champion on 1285 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 3: this particular. 1286 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 4: Like some of those things, we'll talk about after you 1287 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 4: get in, and we'll talk about it after you get it. 1288 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 3: Not if if she asked it, they please boll me. 1289 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 3: She got to go for it. 1290 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 4: Don't dance with the folks who brung you. Don't don't 1291 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 4: try to we are your base, we are your basember. 1292 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 5: Say instead of I'm speaking. I think she's done that enough. 1293 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 5: What she say if he cuts her. 1294 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 3: Off, she could say, watch your mouth. 1295 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I actually might. I actually might say waters reclaim my time. 1296 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 4: You can say, she can say I'm speaking, or she 1297 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 4: could just keep talking making her point. Don't even acknowledge 1298 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 4: him to look at the camera, talk to the American people. 1299 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Treat him like a fly. He's an irritant. 1300 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 3: That would be. 1301 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 5: But she starts swatting to like, I'm sorry everyone, but 1302 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 5: you know what she should Also, maybe she could consider saying, 1303 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 5: I would love to moderate this debate for you all, 1304 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 5: but I really want to let the American people hear 1305 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 5: my position. 1306 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 3: So if you wouldn't mind asking my opponent to wait 1307 01:04:59,080 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 3: his time. 1308 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 4: I don't want her to insult the moderate because that 1309 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 4: that I agree with that, but I think that was 1310 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 4: like a backfire on her. 1311 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's like they're the people that you don't 1312 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 3: want to share question. 1313 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to ask your dumb question. 1314 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 5: I would like her to say, I would like to 1315 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 5: use this time to address some serious matters. 1316 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 3: I guarantee she'll do that. I don't know. You didn't 1317 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 3: hear me. 1318 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, No, no, I'm speaking over. I'm 1319 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: speaking over. 1320 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 3: And I didn't reclaim your time, brother, Nick, reclaim your time, brother. 1321 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: That The quick point is to make it a little 1322 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: funny by basically saying, whenever he stops talking, if he 1323 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: ever stops staking, you know, or or now getting back 1324 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: to the business of this debate, there's something that again. 1325 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 3: You know, are you finished? Are you done? 1326 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't let it. I wouldn't go are you finished? 1327 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 3: But I definitely. 1328 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 1: I think ever he finishes talking, whenever he stops. 1329 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Talking, that's a really good ad. 1330 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 4: And I think this is something. It was her ad, 1331 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 4: and I think she could pick this up. Would you 1332 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 4: trust an accused rapists to pick up your kids. Would 1333 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 4: you trust uh, someone who talked about grabbing women by 1334 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 4: the pussy with your kids? Would you trust a convicted 1335 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 4: criminal with your kids? 1336 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: No? 1337 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 4: Right, so why would you trust that person with the country. 1338 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 4: That was an ad That's not mine. But I think 1339 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 4: that would be a good thing for her for people 1340 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 4: who don't you know how many people? Yes, because if 1341 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 4: people aren't watching commercials, like when are you seeing these ads? 1342 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 3: They're popping up on gaming or wherever. 1343 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: But if you're streaming, me tell you, if you want 1344 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: to talk about Donald Trump rolled, he will be rolled 1345 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: and bowed over if she comes at him that hall. 1346 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 3: That's what I'm top. 1347 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: If you want to see that man turn all the 1348 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: way orange, that's what whatever is the next level of 1349 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: his coloration. 1350 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 3: Should start right now. 1351 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 5: Like I'm telling you guys, if she wants him flustered 1352 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 5: and unclear and unhinged, start get in this dude's head 1353 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 5: right now. If that's what I'm saying, have that whatever 1354 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 5: they think the closingess, have. 1355 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 3: Her open with that. Throw him off his life immediately. 1356 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 4: You know who did, freaking Elizabeth Warren the bloombird. 1357 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 3: He was like, let me think this dude out for 1358 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 3: that's what you got to do. Maybe they put you 1359 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 3: cannot come in like, oh, let me come in and 1360 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 3: look like I'm the lady. 1361 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 5: Like no, go balls to the wall, em meet walls, 1362 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 5: walls to the w A l Z immediately start there. 1363 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Well, what we know about Donald Trump because he doesn't change, 1364 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 1: is it when when there is a thing that is 1365 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: bothering him, he's going to He's going to repeatedly go. 1366 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 5: Back to what I'm saying, no matter, no matter question. 1367 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 5: Get him in that loop immediately. You guys know what 1368 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 5: I'm saying. She could literally throw him off the mark immediately. 1369 01:07:58,720 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 5: He's so predictable. 1370 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 4: But on the debate sta I don't want him to 1371 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 4: know her attack line before the debate stage you got 1372 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 4: we're coming up on time. Can we talk about what 1373 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 4: we're going to talk about on the mini pod? 1374 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 3: Do we have ideas? 1375 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 4: We got mini pods to drop every Monday, y'all? Oh, 1376 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 4: do y'all want to do the try conferences one? Well, 1377 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 4: because by the time this drops, it will be the kickoff. 1378 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 4: By the time the mini pod drops, which drops every Monday. 1379 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 10: It will will be starting CBC talk about I don't 1380 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 10: mind that, I like it, and we'll tune in to 1381 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,560 Speaker 10: see if that's what we land on. 1382 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 3: That's not my c. 1383 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 4: That's not my ct I have a question for Angela 1384 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 4: for her ct akay. I think Angela's CTA is everybody 1385 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,879 Speaker 4: get this newsletter. But I don't know anything about the newsletter. 1386 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,839 Speaker 4: So tell us what is this newsletter? 1387 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 3: Where did it come? Who's writing the newsletter? Any? 1388 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: You should do that right after we do this, which 1389 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,799 Speaker 1: is our CTAs are going to be two quick questions. 1390 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Wrote a question. 1391 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 4: Oh oh, maybe the mini could be the fewer questions. 1392 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good idea. 1393 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna kick it. I like that. 1394 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 3: I like that. Okay, so we respond to. 1395 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 5: This is not rehearse because we all over yes, and 1396 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 5: will we be talking about so funny enough, Tiff, I 1397 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 5: don't know either. But we have a website called native 1398 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 5: landpod dot com and Lolo, who is our researcher, but 1399 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 5: she does a lot of things. 1400 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 3: Lolo wears a lot of hats. She was our booking 1401 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 3: producer at d NC. 1402 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 5: Lolo has decided that we need a newsletter, and so 1403 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 5: it's an opportunity. I think to go back and look 1404 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 5: at past clips, some viewer questions and some other stuff. 1405 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 5: I don't know, so I'm gonna be surprised, like y'all, 1406 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 5: and like Tip and like Andrew when. 1407 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 4: I see that it's like the news about this show. Yes, 1408 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 4: so our CPA is go to the website. I guess 1409 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,440 Speaker 4: that's dot subscribe. 1410 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, Welcome home, everybody, ketch us on the 1411 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 1: mini Before you end the show. I want to remind 1412 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: everyone to leave us a review and subscrib to Native Lampid. 1413 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 1: We're available on all platforms and YouTube. New episodes drop 1414 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: every Thursday. You can also follow us on social media. 1415 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: We are Angelo Raie, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gilli. Welcome home, y'all, 1416 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 1: Come home, y'all. 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