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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to the third day edition of Fair Territory.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. It obviously is

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Speaker 2: a sad day, last game at the Oakland Coliseum. There

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Speaker 2: have been some wonderful remembrances by staff writers of the

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Speaker 2: I obviously want to acknowledge that before we get started,

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Speaker 2: But a lot of we have, as the kids say,

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Speaker 2: a hot mess to discuss.

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Speaker 3: Ken.

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Speaker 1: It is a hot mess. Express. That is the last

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Speaker 1: thing that Major League Baseball would have wanted. It is

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Speaker 1: the New York Mets. What is forcing a double header

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Speaker 4: Tell us more?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I want to take everyone through this because there has

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Speaker 2: Wildcard series one or both the next day. They would

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Speaker 2: That's their slight advantage here. And then there are the

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Speaker 2: the team that has it clinched doesn't really want to

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Speaker 2: and that could compromise the Diamondbacks. Now I will say

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Speaker 2: and then the double header would be canceled. If only

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Speaker 2: why wasn't this game played yesterday earlier? Well, how much

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Speaker 2: Now yesterday was not the hurricane. Yesterday was just a

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Speaker 2: We're facing a complete mess on Monday and a complete

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Speaker 2: Alana seems like just one of these things that happens.

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Speaker 2: But again, if they play well in the postseason and

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Speaker 2: That's a great point. And the first thing I wrote

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Speaker 2: Boone has not only a healthy team right now relatively speaking,

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Speaker 2: absolutely this comes into play. I know Nestra Cortez Junior

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Speaker 1: One of the strongest Yankees teams that we've seen in

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Speaker 1: quite some time. Can you had mentioned that Skip Schumacher

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Speaker 1: of the now Miami Marlins is the leading free agent

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Speaker 2: Skip can be a good fit anywhere. He is a

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Speaker 2: known Alex Anthopolis since he was an intern with the

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Speaker 2: can you at least spell my name right? I felt

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Speaker 2: about this high, so that's not good to ever misspell

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Speaker 2: any names. Early in my career, my first job at

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Speaker 2: supposed to do in that situation is spell the names right.

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Speaker 2: I must have gotten ten wrong, and I got screamed

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Speaker 2: out the next day. And I would like to think

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that Ken Rosenthal, the Great Ken Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: Everybody out there reading me knows that.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I cannot. I cannot.

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Speaker 4: For the life of me.

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Speaker 1: If I gun to my head right now, I would

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Speaker 1: This has become part of the show that I love

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Speaker 1: the most, the dude and dork of the week, And

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Speaker 1: I love how you're always ready and I always have

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Speaker 1: to think about it, especially the dude.

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Speaker 2: Of the week.

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Speaker 1: But who is Who's your dude? It's a whole club.

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Speaker 2: My Dude of the week is actually, yes, Alana, a

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Speaker 2: whole club. It is the Chicago White Sox and not

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Speaker 2: anybody but the players on the team who have put

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Speaker 2: together two straight wins. God blessed them to avoid the

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Speaker 2: one twenty one mark that you referenced earlier, the record

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Speaker 2: for most losses in a season, and the one thing

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Speaker 2: when we all talk about the White Sox and listen,

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Speaker 2: we had a long story Brigerolie and I about the

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Speaker 2: management and the owner a week ago. So but the

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Speaker 2: players are the players, and the players are out there

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Speaker 2: trying their best. They're obviously not the best players, otherwise

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Speaker 2: they be winning more games. But for those guys who

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Speaker 2: are just refusing to give in, they are, to quote

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Speaker 2: the poet Dylan Thomas, not going gently into the good night.

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Speaker 2: They are raging, raging against the dying of the light.

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Speaker 2: White Sox Dudes of the week, Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Look at you.

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Speaker 1: I would quote major league, but it's something that's the effective.

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Speaker 1: We've won two in a row. If we win more

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Speaker 1: one more, I think that's a winning streak or something

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Speaker 1: like that. Again, probably wrong on the quote, but you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, all right. You wanted to

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Speaker 1: also mention Murk and Crochet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did. And Grady Sizemore has basically announced that

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Speaker 2: if Sunday's game against the Tigers is meaningful, he's going

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Speaker 2: to pitch Garrick Crochet and that's what he should do.

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Speaker 2: It's not like something we necessarily need to applaud him for.

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Speaker 2: But the White Sox are basically saying, our season is

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Speaker 2: not over. We are going to honor the integrity of

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Speaker 2: the game and pitch our best guy if that game

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Speaker 2: means something. So good for the White Sox there as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott markin with that tweet there, and also good

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Speaker 1: for Skip Schumacher to throw to shohe Otani as well.

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Speaker 1: So I want to say, my dude, is the A's

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Speaker 1: fan base not only the A's fan base for packing

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Speaker 1: the Coliseum in the last home stand obviously tonight's the

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Speaker 1: last game there, but just for being the unbelievable fan

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Speaker 1: base that they have been when they continue to get

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Speaker 1: their hearts ripped out of their chest. And not only

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Speaker 1: for the fan base, but just for the workers who tirelessly,

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Speaker 1: tirelessly have tried to make that stadium as good as

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Speaker 1: it possibly can be when they've had nothing but things

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Speaker 1: to have adversity with it, you know, obviously the possums

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Speaker 1: and the leaks and just the disgustingness that is the coliseum.

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Speaker 1: There was a grounds crew groundskeeper that was putting dirt

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Speaker 1: from the coliseum. You can see it here in water

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Speaker 1: bottles that the fans had can so they have a

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Speaker 1: little piece of the stadium to take with them. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oakland, I'm sorry that this is happening to you,

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Speaker 1: But you guys are my dudes of the week for

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Speaker 1: the workers, the employees, and of course that fan base

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Speaker 1: as well. What about your dork of the week.

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Speaker 2: Ken Well? First off, I'm wanting to say one thing

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Speaker 2: about the A's not the first time they're fans have

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Speaker 2: dudes of the week and rightly so. And also just

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Speaker 2: this day is going to be really tough for a

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Speaker 2: lot of them, and it's gonna be tough to bid

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Speaker 2: that team farewell, and they should just know that people

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Speaker 2: around the country are with them and feeling for him.

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Speaker 2: It's baseball, I get it. It's not like this tragic event,

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Speaker 2: but it's a sad event. And hey, definitely dude to

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Speaker 2: the week now, dork of the week. It is the

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Speaker 2: John Fisher Dork of the Week Award, as we know,

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Speaker 2: we've renamed it as such. And he bid for yet

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Speaker 2: another honor this week by spelling Loma Prieta wrong in

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Speaker 2: his wonderful letter to the A's fans, his heart felt letter,

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Speaker 2: which was ridiculous. But you got to be a better

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Speaker 2: speller than that, John, especially with an earthquake that happened

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Speaker 2: in your region. I was there, Pal I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you were, but I was there, all right. Dorks

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Speaker 2: of the week. This is another team that somehow slips

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Speaker 2: into this category from time to time, the Pittsburgh Pirates

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Speaker 2: for dumping Rowdy Teles with four played appearances. He needed

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Speaker 2: to get a two hundred thousand dollars incentive. Now, this

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Speaker 2: is the kind of thing that if you want to

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Speaker 2: give the Pirates the benefit of the doubt, and you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't because we all know what this is. It's rather naked.

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Speaker 2: But let's assume they're doing this they want to see

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Speaker 2: these players the last four or five games of this season,

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Speaker 2: and they have the best of intentions. Even if that

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Speaker 2: is the case, which it wasn't, you have to take

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Speaker 2: a step back if you're the Pirates, if you're the

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Speaker 2: general manager, if you're the owner, and say, okay, what

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Speaker 2: are we getting into here. We are essentially sending a

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Speaker 2: message to our fans that were cheap, and we're also

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Speaker 2: sending a message to players who eventually might want to

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Speaker 2: sign here as free agents, that we will do this

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. That message alone, the poorness of that message,

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Speaker 2: that's not worth two hundred thousand dollars. That is worth

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Speaker 2: saving the money and conducting yourself as a professional organization,

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Speaker 2: which in this case the pirates did not question.

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Speaker 1: About, no question about that of the week is the

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Speaker 1: idiots that continue oppressions. The idiots that's a strong word.

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Speaker 1: The people that propose on the jumbo tron that's I can't,

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Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. Ken. This is the most

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Speaker 1: unoriginal proposal in the history of proposals. The scoreboard wedding

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Speaker 1: proposals have to stop. And not only do they have

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Speaker 1: to stop if your team wins the division, they really

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be happening. If it's the same day, can that

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Speaker 1: your team sets or ties the modern era record that

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Speaker 1: since nineteen hundred of the most losses in the season

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Speaker 1: with one hundred and twenty to tie the nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: two New York Mets, that people actually enjoyed watching because

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Speaker 1: do it on the JumboTron in Boston during rain delays.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't even a game going on. I've seen people

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: I have a game on Saturday that I initially feared

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Speaker 1: All right, Saturday on Fox. You can catch Ken there,

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