1
00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,200
Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

2
00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,200
Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

3
00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,480
Speaker 2: I love him.

4
00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,560
Speaker 3: I can't get.

5
00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,040
Speaker 4: Enough of him.

6
00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:35,440
Speaker 2: That Bob. There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

7
00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,840
Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

8
00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,920
Speaker 5: Live to tape is a thing in the past, gotta

9
00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,600
Speaker 5: do it live and we are live yet again.

10
00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,880
Speaker 6: It is Sunday, June ninth, eleven, o two a m. Eastern.

11
00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,600
Speaker 5: Great to have you with us for this four hundred

12
00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,360
Speaker 5: and ninety second iteration of the Antik and Florian Podcast,

13
00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,399
Speaker 5: presented by DraftKings on the DraftKings Network DraftKings YouTube channel,

14
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,800
Speaker 5: and thanks to those of you accessing us on the

15
00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,319
Speaker 5: Anik and Florian podcast YouTube channel. Good Sunday morning to

16
00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,080
Speaker 5: you can flow easy like Sunday morning, and we are live.

17
00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,320
Speaker 7: Crazy man, We're closing in on five hundred episodes.

18
00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,559
Speaker 3: Dude, where who.

19
00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,319
Speaker 5: Should we book for episode five hundred at Anti Florian

20
00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,400
Speaker 5: Pod Ken Flow?

21
00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,000
Speaker 6: Who should we book at? Kenny Florian say, we need

22
00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,240
Speaker 6: somewhat big, dude, do we do we?

23
00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 3: Why not?

24
00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,479
Speaker 5: We don't need right hand, I mean we need long

25
00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,160
Speaker 5: Ago and Ray Longo by the way, coming up in

26
00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,360
Speaker 5: about forty minutes live on a Sunday morning, celebrating Pomi

27
00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,680
Speaker 5: Nakuda's big win last night as he continues to inch

28
00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,320
Speaker 5: closer to U to the UFC doorstep. We will also

29
00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,920
Speaker 5: talk to the former decorated San Diego Chargers linebacker Sean Merriman.

30
00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,960
Speaker 5: He's been in the fight game for a long time

31
00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840
Speaker 5: and now he has a live sports application, so we'll

32
00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,920
Speaker 5: get into that a little bit, and coming up on

33
00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,520
Speaker 5: Wednesday or Thursday, we will transition to UFC Fight Night

34
00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,760
Speaker 5: Alex Perez tetsuro Ira coming up of the Apex this weekend.

35
00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,640
Speaker 5: But a big month obviously for the UFC Kenflow, and

36
00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,440
Speaker 5: as we sit here three weeks out, it looks as

37
00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,640
Speaker 5: though maybe, just maybe Connor McGregor might actually be competing

38
00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,320
Speaker 5: twenty days from now, on June twenty ninth.

39
00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,040
Speaker 7: Please let it happened. No hiccups, come on, just just

40
00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,520
Speaker 7: let this thing happen. It's been brewing for so long.

41
00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,959
Speaker 7: These guys have been talking about fighting each other.

42
00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,280
Speaker 3: Now it just needs to happen.

43
00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,440
Speaker 7: And I don't know. I mean, these are two very

44
00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,560
Speaker 7: exciting fighters. I don't see it going the distance. One

45
00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,840
Speaker 7: of these guys is getting it finished either way. In

46
00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:40,400
Speaker 7: my opinion, and yeah, I think it's really interesting just

47
00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,480
Speaker 7: from Connor's perspective on how he's going to look.

48
00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,200
Speaker 3: What is he going to look like when he gets

49
00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:45,880
Speaker 3: back in there.

50
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,440
Speaker 7: And for Chandler, I think we kind of know what

51
00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,200
Speaker 7: to expect, but just for Connor coming off the injury,

52
00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,359
Speaker 7: everything that's going on, I want to see.

53
00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,760
Speaker 3: How he looks.

54
00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,640
Speaker 5: Connor is so talented and good when he is locked in,

55
00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,360
Speaker 5: there are so many unknowns, I think when it comes

56
00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,360
Speaker 5: to Connor McGregor juxtaposed against Michael Chandler, who you know

57
00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,200
Speaker 5: is in the gym every day and has been chopping

58
00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,160
Speaker 5: at the bit trying to compete for the last two years.

59
00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,720
Speaker 5: A lot of experts that I listen to suggest that

60
00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,960
Speaker 5: Connor's the better fighter and certainly maybe the more precise striker,

61
00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,480
Speaker 5: even if he doesn't have the power advantage here. But

62
00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,640
Speaker 5: a lot of people are reluctant to go to the

63
00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,880
Speaker 5: window and bet on Connor McGregor because of the layoff

64
00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,639
Speaker 5: and some of the extenuating circumstances. I know some people

65
00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,440
Speaker 5: who and I think Matty Betts has talked about this,

66
00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,840
Speaker 5: you know who are flirting with maybe Max Wager, Michael Chandler,

67
00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,600
Speaker 5: because they just feel like there's too much value. He's

68
00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,880
Speaker 5: at least been in some sort of competition cycle. He

69
00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,120
Speaker 5: doesn't have a metal rod in his leg. You know,

70
00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,680
Speaker 5: it's close on paper. I expect it to continue to

71
00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,840
Speaker 5: take two way action at DraftKings, sports Book and everywhere

72
00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,800
Speaker 5: else really until June twenty nine.

73
00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I think all of that is true.

74
00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,840
Speaker 7: The problem I think is that Chandler tends to, you know,

75
00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,080
Speaker 7: balance balance himself right on that line of aggression and

76
00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,200
Speaker 7: recklessness at times, and sometimes just for the sake of

77
00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,000
Speaker 7: being entertaining and being the warrior that he is, he

78
00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,600
Speaker 7: will kind of put strategy aside, for tactics aside, and

79
00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,360
Speaker 7: just try to make it exciting and look for some

80
00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,839
Speaker 7: big knockout, which is which is great. And he might

81
00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,440
Speaker 7: be able to knock out Connor too, he's that powerful.

82
00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,240
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

83
00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,840
Speaker 7: However, you know, he does open himself up to counters

84
00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,640
Speaker 7: and knockouts, and when you're talking about a guy like

85
00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,000
Speaker 7: Connor McGregor, I think he still has that. So whether

86
00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,919
Speaker 7: he can do that over the course or finding that

87
00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,840
Speaker 7: punch over the course of twenty five minutes, I don't know. Uh,

88
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,400
Speaker 7: But early on man first fifteen minutes I don't care

89
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,359
Speaker 7: who you are, you gotta watch out for Connor McGregor

90
00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,760
Speaker 7: in that power and his technical ability on the feet.

91
00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,440
Speaker 5: I wonder if during fight week we will find out

92
00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,279
Speaker 5: why the press conference got canceled.

93
00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,280
Speaker 6: Perhaps we would find out after the fact.

94
00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,640
Speaker 5: But minus one oh five for Connor McGregor right now,

95
00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,359
Speaker 5: the slight favorite is Michael Chandler minus one fifteen on

96
00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,159
Speaker 5: Draftking Sportsbooks. So we're going to get into the UFC

97
00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,159
Speaker 5: fight night here in a minut But I flew home

98
00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,800
Speaker 5: from Atlanta, where I'm filming a movie just for the weekend,

99
00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,279
Speaker 5: in part to do the podcast in the home studio

100
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400
Speaker 5: because I carried out this Joe and how it sounds,

101
00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,800
Speaker 5: and also to see my children because I'm going to

102
00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,919
Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia June seventeenth or eighteenth, and then i go

103
00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,920
Speaker 5: straight to Vegas for the UFC Hall of Fame induction

104
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,680
Speaker 5: and UFC three three, So I'm away I think like

105
00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,200
Speaker 5: twenty two or twenty three nights in the month of June,

106
00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,000
Speaker 5: So that is why I came home. But being in

107
00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,560
Speaker 5: Atlanta with Michael Bisping and a few other people in

108
00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,400
Speaker 5: the MMA world, a lot of people think I might

109
00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,440
Speaker 5: have some answers when it comes to Connor McGregor. And

110
00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,960
Speaker 5: I'm not the prying type, right like, I don't think

111
00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,160
Speaker 5: I've even so much as texted our producer Zat Candido

112
00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,080
Speaker 5: asking for information on this front.

113
00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 6: So I'll probably find out after a lot of the.

114
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,520
Speaker 5: Masses do as to maybe what happened in the front end,

115
00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,239
Speaker 5: on the front end of the press conference, and maybe

116
00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,040
Speaker 5: you know what Connor may or may not have been

117
00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,479
Speaker 5: dealing with as far as those quote unquote obstacles are concerned.

118
00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,599
Speaker 5: But looks as though it might be all systems go

119
00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,200
Speaker 5: for June twenty ninth, and that's a very good thing

120
00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,760
Speaker 5: for MMA fans worldwide. And shout out to Big Ron Pellegrino.

121
00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,479
Speaker 5: By the way, you're the reason we do this thing live.

122
00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,240
Speaker 5: You know, he said to me probably six months ago.

123
00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,040
Speaker 5: You know he got wait ten hours after we put

124
00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,440
Speaker 5: this thing in the can. And of course, our executive producer,

125
00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,360
Speaker 5: Cody Merrow, nobody better at bells and whistles, but here too,

126
00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,239
Speaker 5: four we really are going to try to go live.

127
00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,800
Speaker 5: I was talking to another person in the MMA podcast space.

128
00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,000
Speaker 5: I can't reveal his name, but you know they tape

129
00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,159
Speaker 5: their show at one thirty am Eastern right after UFC

130
00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,240
Speaker 5: pay per views, you know. So the goal for us

131
00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,359
Speaker 5: is to get this out to you as soon as

132
00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,120
Speaker 5: humanly possible, and when we can do it on a

133
00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,760
Speaker 5: Sunday morning, that is what we are gonna do.

134
00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,839
Speaker 6: All right, Headlines, talk to you by Cuervo.

135
00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,880
Speaker 5: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

136
00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,160
Speaker 6: All right, Louisville, Kentucky.

137
00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,479
Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night, cannoneer versus Imovov and your main event

138
00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,560
Speaker 5: goes to Nosordine Imavov.

139
00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,520
Speaker 6: He gets the stoppage in round four.

140
00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,800
Speaker 5: I guess a lot as usual to dissect when it

141
00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,640
Speaker 5: comes to a UFC main event. A lot of people

142
00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120
Speaker 5: are talking about the end of the fight. A lot

143
00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,320
Speaker 5: of the MMA fans believe that this was a premature stoppage.

144
00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,200
Speaker 5: Seems as so the commentary team felt as though that

145
00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,159
Speaker 5: was the case. We can talk about Jason Herzog's relative

146
00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760
Speaker 5: elitness as far as refereeing is concerned. I sent him

147
00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,600
Speaker 5: a message this morning, But overall can flow your thoughts

148
00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,680
Speaker 5: on the fight and ultimately how it ended in favor

149
00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,280
Speaker 5: of Nasordine Imava.

150
00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,080
Speaker 3: Shall we start at the end or shall we save

151
00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:18,760
Speaker 3: that for later?

152
00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,320
Speaker 6: You look like worn in nineteen eighty six.

153
00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,240
Speaker 7: It's amazing what a haircut will do. Makes me look

154
00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,160
Speaker 7: a little fitter. All right, So I thought it was

155
00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,000
Speaker 7: a great fight. First of all, I thought it was

156
00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,720
Speaker 7: a great back and forth. I thought it was technical.

157
00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,080
Speaker 7: It was tactical as as I expected. And I also

158
00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,960
Speaker 7: think that people were kind of underestimating cannon Heir. Maybe

159
00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,920
Speaker 7: the bookies were for a little bit, because he was

160
00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,960
Speaker 7: looking fantastic in a large portion of this fight. However,

161
00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,280
Speaker 7: when he stopped looking to attack at angles, when he

162
00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,920
Speaker 7: stopped kind of moving laterally, when he stayed in front

163
00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,400
Speaker 7: of you, Mova, that when he started to eat some

164
00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,200
Speaker 7: serious shots. And I think I always knew that Imovov

165
00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,240
Speaker 7: had this kind of power, but it almost seemed like

166
00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,760
Speaker 7: in this fight he was like, I'm throwing shots to

167
00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,360
Speaker 7: knock people out, like he was not intimidated by the

168
00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,200
Speaker 7: experience of Cannoneer, and he looked like the bigger, more

169
00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,960
Speaker 7: powerful guy, which is something I'm not sure I expected.

170
00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,760
Speaker 3: And certainly the height was there, I knew that, but man,

171
00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,680
Speaker 3: he looked massive in that weight class.

172
00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,560
Speaker 7: In his power shots when they were landing, they were

173
00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,480
Speaker 7: hurting Cannoneer, and I like the adjustments he was making.

174
00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,800
Speaker 7: I thought that he was maybe not pacing himself very well,

175
00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,240
Speaker 7: but he seemed like he came into this fight in

176
00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,480
Speaker 7: extremely good shape. Landed those heavy shots, as we know,

177
00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,840
Speaker 7: hurt Cannoneer, maybe not once, maybe twice.

178
00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,480
Speaker 3: And you mentioned it.

179
00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,640
Speaker 7: Herzog an amazing reth a consistent referee, as elite as

180
00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,439
Speaker 7: it comes. But I do think it was a bit

181
00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,800
Speaker 7: of an early stoppage, especially considering the shots that kind

182
00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,520
Speaker 7: of preceded the stoppage. Though those weren't clean shots. There

183
00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,000
Speaker 7: was a shot that happened before that hurt him, and

184
00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,160
Speaker 7: then the other shots that followed weren't really landing. They

185
00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120
Speaker 7: were kind of skimming off the forum or even just

186
00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,040
Speaker 7: missing out right in my opinion, and I thought he

187
00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,680
Speaker 7: should have waited for cannon Ear to at least respond

188
00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,600
Speaker 7: or do something about it a little bit more, and

189
00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,400
Speaker 7: he just jumped in, I think at a critical time,

190
00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,240
Speaker 7: and maybe imov Off would have got the finish anyway,

191
00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,839
Speaker 7: but I kind of wanted to see Cannoneer.

192
00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,880
Speaker 3: It sounds weird, but a little.

193
00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,360
Speaker 7: Bit more hurt or at least like not under the

194
00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,560
Speaker 7: same pind of control that he exhibited right.

195
00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,080
Speaker 5: Ken Flow just wanted to see definite brain damage or

196
00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,720
Speaker 5: a further concussion. No, I just said to my wife,

197
00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,760
Speaker 5: I said, I guarantee you Ken Flow is going to

198
00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,560
Speaker 5: think the stoppage was early, and certainly for me, it's

199
00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,839
Speaker 5: Mark Goddard and Jason Herzog, and I'm sure there's another

200
00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,320
Speaker 5: name that maybe you could mention in that top three.

201
00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,160
Speaker 5: But if you were to ask me, Kenny, do you

202
00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,480
Speaker 5: believe in twenty seconds that Jared Cannonier would have been

203
00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,199
Speaker 5: knocked out cold or concussed further, the answer would be yes.

204
00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,080
Speaker 5: I believe referees are universally praised when they allow a

205
00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,440
Speaker 5: fight to go long and then something sensational happens. Either

206
00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,800
Speaker 5: we get a twenty five minute war because they didn't

207
00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,199
Speaker 5: stop the fight, or you get a knockout that has

208
00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,040
Speaker 5: some virality.

209
00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,400
Speaker 2: Right.

210
00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,800
Speaker 6: I was a little bit surprised to.

211
00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,320
Speaker 5: See Jason Herzog intervene here, right, But referees are always

212
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320
Speaker 5: going to be criticized when they stop fights early on

213
00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,480
Speaker 5: the front end of the potentially concussive damage. So I

214
00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,040
Speaker 5: knew what this result was before I watched the fight.

215
00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,200
Speaker 5: I knew that people were upset about this stoppage, right,

216
00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,000
Speaker 5: I watched all the fights literally two hours ago this morning,

217
00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,160
Speaker 5: So yes, I mean, Jason, if any referee deserves the

218
00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,319
Speaker 5: benefit of the doubt, it is him. But if you're

219
00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,600
Speaker 5: asking me, do I think the stoppage was a skoch premature?

220
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,160
Speaker 5: I do, But I think the result would have been

221
00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,800
Speaker 5: a concussion for Jared Cannon here, who had been drunk

222
00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,480
Speaker 5: driving thirty seconds previously.

223
00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,360
Speaker 6: And I just feel like he, you know, would have

224
00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,120
Speaker 6: been knocked out.

225
00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,000
Speaker 5: And you know what, I don't know, do you consider

226
00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,200
Speaker 5: the fact that he's forty when you stop that fight?

227
00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,800
Speaker 5: You probably shouldn't, but I mean, dude, maybe you should.

228
00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,120
Speaker 5: Like he's not a spring fucking chicken, right.

229
00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,760
Speaker 7: Right, No, absolutely forty years old and certainly has had

230
00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,719
Speaker 7: a lot of tough fights in the ockyard. Those are

231
00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:29,080
Speaker 7: things you gotta kind of consider as well. And I

232
00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,080
Speaker 7: think the other thing, similar to how you can look

233
00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,120
Speaker 7: at a fight from a certain angle and think that

234
00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,200
Speaker 7: fights that punches landed or they didn't based on the angle, well,

235
00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,240
Speaker 7: I would say the impact of the punches are going

236
00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,520
Speaker 7: to be vastly different if we're watching it on a

237
00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,480
Speaker 7: monitor or on TV, as opposed to literally being inches

238
00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,120
Speaker 7: or feet away from those shots, because you hear it,

239
00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,000
Speaker 7: you see it, you see how the eyes respond to

240
00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,560
Speaker 7: the punches, all those things. Jason Herzog's closer than anybody else.

241
00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,720
Speaker 7: So again, this is a referee with a ton of

242
00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,000
Speaker 7: experience who is as elite is a get so I

243
00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,400
Speaker 7: agree you kind of do have to defer to him.

244
00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,040
Speaker 3: But what we've typically seen from fights, based on you know,

245
00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,480
Speaker 3: you know, especially high level guys, we typically see it

246
00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,640
Speaker 3: go a little bit longer. So yeah, that's why.

247
00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,360
Speaker 7: And when you get a high level guy like a

248
00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,559
Speaker 7: Jared cannoneer who has rallied back before, you kind of

249
00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,280
Speaker 7: want to at least give him that chance. But at

250
00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,760
Speaker 7: the same time, you don't want him to leave concust either,

251
00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,520
Speaker 7: very badly.

252
00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, I get it.

253
00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,200
Speaker 6: It's a really tricky thing.

254
00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,000
Speaker 5: And we are going to talk to Big John McCarthy

255
00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,000
Speaker 5: probably at some point in the next month, and I'll

256
00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,200
Speaker 5: be very curious to get his thoughts on this. But

257
00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,400
Speaker 5: it's really hard because you want to be fighter first,

258
00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,040
Speaker 5: and the fighter mentality is let me go out on

259
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,760
Speaker 5: my sword or my shield or whatever the saying is,

260
00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,120
Speaker 5: you know, let me get concussed. And I would think,

261
00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,480
Speaker 5: certainly as a promoter, you would not be in favor

262
00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,760
Speaker 5: of a potentially premature stoppage, right, you want the highlight,

263
00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,199
Speaker 5: you want the potential war that could result of somehow

264
00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,040
Speaker 5: Jared Canned here can get to his stool and realize

265
00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,720
Speaker 5: around five. So it's a tricky thing, but I just

266
00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,760
Speaker 5: hope the fan base will recognize that referee is the

267
00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,360
Speaker 5: second hardest job in MMA. The first toughest job is

268
00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,960
Speaker 5: fighter in my mind, right, the second hardest job job

269
00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,320
Speaker 5: in MMA, I think is referee, and you know, I

270
00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,760
Speaker 5: think judge is probably shortly thereafter, and commentator is a

271
00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,840
Speaker 5: top five really fucking difficult job as well.

272
00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I would say it's a very different thing

273
00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,960
Speaker 7: if let's say imovof was winning or dominating.

274
00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,439
Speaker 3: Over the course the fifteen minutes or whatever it was.

275
00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, if he was just like kicking Cannoneer's ass

276
00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,400
Speaker 7: pillar to post, you know, right from the beginning of

277
00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,040
Speaker 7: this fight, Like I would say, okay, that makes sense

278
00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,920
Speaker 7: to stop it. He's seen enough, he's been bruised and

279
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840
Speaker 7: battered over the course of you know, two three rounds. Now,

280
00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,520
Speaker 7: that stoppage would probably make more sense. But if it's

281
00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,400
Speaker 7: rounds where Cannoneer, you know, he won some of those

282
00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,640
Speaker 7: rounds was winning portions of that fight.

283
00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,440
Speaker 3: It was close.

284
00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,480
Speaker 7: This is the guy that could even the score very

285
00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,199
Speaker 7: quickly with one punch as well. I would have given

286
00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,319
Speaker 7: him a little bit more time in space to kind

287
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,760
Speaker 7: of recover, but that wasn't to be. And this is

288
00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,280
Speaker 7: the sport man. There's so many ways to win and

289
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,560
Speaker 7: lose in this thing. Yeah, and unfortunate for Cannondeir and

290
00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,520
Speaker 7: unfortunate for me. I was I was close to hitting

291
00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,080
Speaker 7: that parlay. I had a terrible night, John, a terrible

292
00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,160
Speaker 7: night on Saturday night. But hey, this is the way

293
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:28,560
Speaker 7: it goes.

294
00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:28,800
Speaker 2: Man.

295
00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,720
Speaker 5: Well, at least you're up too k going into last week,

296
00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,280
Speaker 5: and I'll crunch the numbers later in the week. I

297
00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720
Speaker 5: actually don't even know how you have done. So as

298
00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,680
Speaker 5: we spin this thing forward quickly, if we Couldnsordini Mavov

299
00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,480
Speaker 5: number seven in the world as we sit here on

300
00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,520
Speaker 5: a Sunday, Cannoneir was four. So this is huge as

301
00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160
Speaker 5: far as the pecking order is concerned for the Frenchman

302
00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,160
Speaker 5: Nosordini mavab. A lot of these middleweights, of course, are

303
00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,200
Speaker 5: piled up. I mean Imvov is fought Sean Stricklan, who's

304
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,720
Speaker 5: the number one contender drinks dupless. Likely to fight the

305
00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,080
Speaker 5: number two rank contender Israel Dessaanya, Robert Whittaker, three Kamzat

306
00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,320
Speaker 5: Chimaya is ten. You know, Brandon Allen's been barking and

307
00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,840
Speaker 5: rightfully so you know his Wikipedia page is just one

308
00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,520
Speaker 5: green green stripe after the next and now in theory,

309
00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,920
Speaker 5: Mavov would be ranked above him. So any thoughts ken

310
00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,640
Speaker 5: flow as you look at the top fifteen as to

311
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,720
Speaker 5: what you think will be the next title eliminator type

312
00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,120
Speaker 5: fight for the title shot wanting no Sordini.

313
00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:29,080
Speaker 7: Mava Yeah, I mean, uh so Vittori has who next?

314
00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,480
Speaker 3: Does he? Does he have someone next?

315
00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,200
Speaker 5: I think a lot of these guys are mashed up.

316
00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,840
Speaker 5: I don't know that he has a fight, but Cody

317
00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,400
Speaker 5: can chase that information.

318
00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,680
Speaker 3: I think. And Vittori is very interesting, you.

319
00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,320
Speaker 7: Know, with Brendan Allen being ahead of him, I think

320
00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,440
Speaker 7: that would be a cool future fight as well, tough

321
00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,720
Speaker 7: one for both guys.

322
00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

323
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,200
Speaker 7: I mean, I Mavov looked better than ever in my opinion.

324
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,320
Speaker 7: He just seemed like he's finally understanding the kind of

325
00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,280
Speaker 7: fighter that he is.

326
00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,240
Speaker 3: He's maturing as a fighter. He was trying to be dangerous.

327
00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:08,880
Speaker 7: He was consistent, sometimes lacks some patience, but I mean,

328
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,120
Speaker 7: I love the nastiness out of him, and I think

329
00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,080
Speaker 7: he's growing as a grappler, growing as a striker, gaining

330
00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,200
Speaker 7: that experience, and I definitely see him as a guy

331
00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,960
Speaker 7: that could challenge for the belt in the future. I

332
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,800
Speaker 7: think I saw that maybe in his first fight, when

333
00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,000
Speaker 7: even when he was struggling at times like this is.

334
00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,720
Speaker 3: A very good fighter.

335
00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,360
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think right around that Marven Vatory Brendan

336
00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,880
Speaker 7: Allen line, those were all fights that makes sense already

337
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,280
Speaker 7: beat can near it for so you know why not

338
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,800
Speaker 7: those guys, All.

339
00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,800
Speaker 5: Of these fighters are built differently in mentality, in physicality.

340
00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,200
Speaker 5: Robert Whitaker of course is a former welterweight, right but

341
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,120
Speaker 5: when it comes to this middleweight division and all the

342
00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,240
Speaker 5: big fights that are on the horizon and all the

343
00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,280
Speaker 5: potential for a guy like Brendan Allen, just to give

344
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,520
Speaker 5: you one name right to what extent, can you actually

345
00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,480
Speaker 5: stay ready as a one hundred and eighty five pound

346
00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,880
Speaker 5: contender right now to potentially either step in to weigh

347
00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,320
Speaker 5: in as a backup for Drinks DUPLESSI is real a

348
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,520
Speaker 5: lot of signy if that indeed happens in Perth, right.

349
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think we have somebody backing up

350
00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,440
Speaker 5: in Saudi Arabia, but I'm not privy to that information.

351
00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,280
Speaker 5: Here as we sit thirteen days out right, what is

352
00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,360
Speaker 5: it athlete's relative ability to stay ready and step.

353
00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:14,600
Speaker 6: In right now?

354
00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,600
Speaker 5: Because if you're nos Ordini Mavov and Brendan Allen can

355
00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,399
Speaker 5: flow right, it's gonna be a while. I mean, you

356
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,640
Speaker 5: got Sean Strickland, Izzy and the winner potentially of Robert

357
00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,280
Speaker 5: Whitaker and Kamzat Chimayev that all could get title fights

358
00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,080
Speaker 5: before you do, right. I can understand why BA is

359
00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 5: going on Instagram and being like, what the fuck you know?

360
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,840
Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens.

361
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,280
Speaker 5: But one hundred and eighty five pounds is very interesting,

362
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,000
Speaker 5: and Nosordini mava factors prominently in that equation. And you know,

363
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,040
Speaker 5: Jared Cannonier has asked a lot of himself, obviously, former heavyweight,

364
00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,600
Speaker 5: former light heavyweight, former world title challenger at middleweight. He

365
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,800
Speaker 5: is a man, he is forty. I don't think he's done.

366
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,800
Speaker 5: He was highly competitive on this evening. But in terms

367
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,480
Speaker 5: of any championship aspiration, this is an appreciable setback any

368
00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,360
Speaker 5: thoughts on hear on the back end of this lost

369
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:01,800
Speaker 5: ken float.

370
00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's certain.

371
00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 7: I mean the one hundred and eighty five pound a

372
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,080
Speaker 7: vision has never been stronger. In my opinion, I agree,

373
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,679
Speaker 7: and I think that this does push him down the

374
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,720
Speaker 7: ladder a little bit.

375
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,680
Speaker 3: No shame in that.

376
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,760
Speaker 7: I thought he performed extremely well against Imovov, who was

377
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,080
Speaker 7: on fire that night, hurt him av off more than

378
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,720
Speaker 7: a few times in this fight.

379
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,320
Speaker 3: I had favored him to win.

380
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,240
Speaker 7: This fight was looking great and again just a little

381
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 7: bit a lack of focus there staying in front of

382
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,119
Speaker 7: him for a little bit too long. I thought he

383
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,520
Speaker 7: balanced the aggression extremely well. This is a fighter despite

384
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,160
Speaker 7: him being forty years old, I think is fighting better

385
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 7: than ever.

386
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 3: Still his footwork.

387
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,960
Speaker 7: Looked really, really good when he was moving ladder and

388
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 7: all that stuff. So this is the guy that can

389
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 7: still continue to improve. And that's the biggest thing. Am

390
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 7: I getting better? Forget the age?

391
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 3: You know?

392
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 7: Are you getting better? That's the first question? Then number

393
00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,159
Speaker 7: two is your body failing you? From what I could tell, Oh,

394
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,640
Speaker 7: he still looks great, still moving great, So I think

395
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,400
Speaker 7: he still has a few more years in him.

396
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 3: This isn't a guy who's getting knocked out.

397
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 7: This isn't a guy who's getting touched on the chin

398
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 7: and just falling down fight after fight. Physically, He's still

399
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 7: in great shape, still has a great chin, and you

400
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,720
Speaker 7: know it's just about balancing that, not taking too much damage,

401
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,120
Speaker 7: taking the right fights, and staying exciting.

402
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 3: That's the key. I would love to see more of Kennedy.

403
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 3: I really like the guy.

404
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, great human being as well, very thoughtful guy, well

405
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,919
Speaker 5: read guy, spiritual guy. Congratstinos Sordini Mavov. That's the picture

406
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 5: on the main event that brings us to the co

407
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:42,360
Speaker 5: main event. And Dominic Reyis, I mean, Kenny, I don't

408
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 5: know that in the last five years, I've felt as

409
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 5: good for a human being getting a UFC win as

410
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 5: I do for Dominic Rays and everything that he has

411
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 5: been through and the work ethic has always remained, and

412
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 5: you just don't know, against a guy like Dustin Jacobi,

413
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 5: if you could end up on the wrong end of

414
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 5: another knockout loss, very probable, right, Dustin Jacoby was a

415
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 5: near three to one favorite outstanding kickboxer, and Reyes was

416
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 5: staring at potentially, you know, a fifth straight loss if

417
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 5: that was his reality, and what does he do man,

418
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 5: you know, produces a win like this kind of too

419
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 5: bad he didn't get that fifty thousand dollars bonus. But

420
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 5: Dominic Rays is back, Kenny, and you know this could

421
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 5: potentially pave the way for another real concerted run at

422
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 5: light heavyweight. I know you feel good for dom after

423
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 5: a big moment this weekend, and.

424
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 7: No question about it. I think this is what makes

425
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 7: this sport second to none. This is the best sport

426
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 7: in the world for this reason, because we have the drama,

427
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 7: we have the stories, we have the action. There's no

428
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 7: sport that is more exciting than mixed martial arts when

429
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 7: it's at its best. And as a fighter, you have

430
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 7: the ability to rewrite your story, to change the narrative

431
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 7: completely with one punch, with one fight, you can change

432
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 7: it all. And that's exactly what Rays did, and he

433
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 7: did it at a time that was absolutely crue You

434
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 7: could argue that if he lost this fight, certainly if

435
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 7: he lost it in a bad fashion, that he might

436
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 7: be out of the UFC.

437
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 3: And this is a guy who was fighting for the belt.

438
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 7: Many people argued that he potentially won the belt against

439
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 7: John Jones, right, so it was it was very close

440
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 7: he was at the top of his game and then

441
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,239
Speaker 7: he wasn't. We've seen it so many times, you know,

442
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 7: from Anthony Pettis being on the on the box of

443
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 7: a you know, a Wheedie's box, the cover of a

444
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 7: Wheati's box, to then going on this crazy losing skid

445
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 7: to being out of the UFC. I mean, your your

446
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 7: career can change so quickly for the worser for the better.

447
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 7: And here we have a guy, Dominic Rays, who landed

448
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 7: a knockout against a dangerous guy in Jacoby. We talked

449
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 7: about the left hand. I said, maybe he lands that

450
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 7: left hand again, but I thought Jacoby was going to

451
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 7: do his homework. Maybe he did, but he got caught

452
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 7: with it anyway, just a brutal shot. And Rays just

453
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 7: looked comfortable out there, you know, with all that pressure

454
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 7: that was on him. He looked comfortable, He looked fast,

455
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 7: he physically looked good. And to see a good guy

456
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 7: like that come back after so much adversity, not only

457
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 7: inside the octagon but out of it, to come back

458
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 7: in this kind of fashion. Now, who knows, Maybe he

459
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 7: could challenge for the belt again. You never know, and

460
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 7: there could be a movie about this guy, maybe, right

461
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 7: down the line.

462
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, to see a good guy change.

463
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 7: His story like this, This is the beauty of fighting, man,

464
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 7: Just an amazing story.

465
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: He summed it up beautifully as he did on a

466
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 5: microphone with his post fight interview. Don Reyes came in

467
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 5: number fifteen in the world, and I think because of

468
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 5: his name and because of the nature of his fight

469
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 5: against John Jones, the number doesn't matter as much for Reyes.

470
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 5: There's a lot of big fights that could materialize for him,

471
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 5: not out of the realm of possibility that he could

472
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 5: fight a rematch against one of the guys like Jaanbohovich

473
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 5: that he lost to. I mean, all indications are that

474
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 5: Alex Paeda and Uri Prohaska could show up in each

475
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 5: other's bracket. Yet again, you have a big fight Jamal

476
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 5: Hill and Carlos Alberg coming up in UFC three to

477
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 5: zero three. Maga man Anclive, I don't believe has a

478
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 5: fight right now, but yeah, man, I mean now it's

479
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 5: all in front of Dominic Rayis and he said on

480
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 5: a mic that he's going to take some time off

481
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 5: and be heard from later in the year, but especially

482
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: in these bigger weight classes. Ken Flow, I mean, you

483
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: really everything can change on a dime with one punch.

484
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 5: So congrats to Dominic Rays, who is back in a

485
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: big way. The knockout comes at the two minute mark

486
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 5: at round number one, and yeah, Cody Merrill right in

487
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 5: the chat, it would be smart to put him on

488
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 5: the John Jones card right if.

489
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 6: He can go in New York.

490
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 5: Presumably that's when steep A and John Jones would fight,

491
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 5: right Madison Square Garden. I think it makes a shit

492
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 5: ton of sense. And Dominic Rays also played his college

493
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 5: football in the state of New York, I believe at

494
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: Stony Brooks.

495
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 6: But just a good dude comes from a good family.

496
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 5: I remember calling Dominic Grayce's UFC debut and hanging out

497
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 5: with his parents a little bit at the Host Hotel and.

498
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 6: Dominic Cruz was there.

499
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 5: And Dominic reyis is nicknamed the Devastator, right, not a

500
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 5: great nickname. We love everything about Don Rays except the nickname.

501
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 5: We don't like the Devastator, right, he knows that, but

502
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 5: the Dominator not a great nickname. Incidentally, anyway, is owned

503
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 5: by Dominic Cruz, so he had to pivot because Rayes

504
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 5: has a lot of respect for the other Dominic who

505
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 5: spells a do m I nik, but yeah, Ken, what

506
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: do you think about the devastator and the dominator?

507
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 6: I don't like either.

508
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: Can we combine it in some of the dominist evaders?

509
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 8: Yeah?

510
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

511
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

512
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 5: Congrats to dom Reyis though, and one of the better

513
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 5: football players to ever.

514
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 6: Grace that there, Octagon.

515
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: All right, we are this close, ladies and gentlemen, of

516
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 5: crowning an NBA champion. And with the action heating up

517
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 5: on the court, it's even hotter At DraftKings sportsbook and

518
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 5: official sports betting partner of the NBA, the same game

519
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 5: Parlay's live betting odds, boosts and so much more. Don't

520
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 5: miss out as the NBA postseason winds down Game two

521
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 5: tonight in the Bean Mavericks plus seven as they try

522
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 5: to even the series at one game apiece against the Celtics.

523
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 5: And if you are new by the way to DraftKings,

524
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 5: you got to check this out. New customers, bet five

525
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 5: bucks to get one hundred and fifty in bonus bets instantly.

526
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 5: All you need to do download the Draft Kings sports

527
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 5: Book gap not now, but right now. Use code af pod.

528
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 5: That's code af pod for new customers.

529
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 6: Get one hundred and fifteen bonus bets when he betes

530
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 6: five bucks only on DraftKings. The crown is yours.

531
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 5: Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler or in West

532
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 5: Virginia one eight hundred gambler dot net, New York call

533
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 5: eight seven seven eight hope end why are text hope

534
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 5: end why? In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling

535
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 5: called eighty eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven

536
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 5: or visit CCPG dot org. Please play responsibly, imb behalf

537
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 5: of boothilk Cino Jordan, Kansas twenty one plus age varies

538
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: by jurisdiction void in Ontario. Bonus bets expire one hundred

539
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 5: and sixty eight hours after issuance. CDKNG dot co slash

540
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 5: bball for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms and responsible gaming resources.

541
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: All right.

542
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 6: I always get a little bit.

543
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 5: Starstruck when we bring on former NFL players, so we'll

544
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 5: see how I navigate this particular interview. But now joining

545
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 5: us former three time NFL All pro representing your San

546
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 5: Diego Chargers, also the founder of lights Out Extreme Fighting

547
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 5: and lights Out Sports TV. You can find them on

548
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 5: social media at Sean Merriman. The Great Sean Merriman is

549
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 5: with us. My man, it's great to see. How's your

550
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 5: Sunday going so far?

551
00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Brother?

552
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 8: Us up? Brother.

553
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: Finally, man, we get a says to do this. This

554
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 4: is a pretty cool man, big fan of the show.

555
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 4: And and Ken, I'm I'm gonna disagree with the one

556
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: thing you said. I think MMA is a second okay sport.

557
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, I just said, I just had

558
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: to throw that in there. But uh now, man, I

559
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: do this attracted me to this sport. And you know,

560
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 4: I'm happy for Dominice. Know you guys are talking about

561
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 4: Dominique to him. Man, you know, being a former football guys,

562
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: any of these guys that transition over I always pushed for.

563
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 4: And I'm happy to see him going back in the

564
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 4: right direction because he was, you know, had a negative

565
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 4: bass street full a little bit him.

566
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, back on top was cool.

567
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the NFL will always be king. I mean, certainly,

568
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 5: I feel like as far as unpredictable theater in professional

569
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 5: sports is concerned, I'm not sure that anything can touch

570
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 5: mm ah.

571
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right about that.

572
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: An NBA regular season game doesn't really have much value

573
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: for me, if I'm being honest, right, an NFL regular

574
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 5: season game is Christmas for me.

575
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 6: I mean Sunday one pm Eastern Shawn. As you know,

576
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 6: those seventeen Sundays are just so sacred. And the depression

577
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 6: for a lot of US NFL fans in December, knowing

578
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: that come January when it's the postseason and we have

579
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 6: six or eight months without football. Bro, Like, my whole

580
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 6: disposition and mental health is better during the NFL season.

581
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 7: And the numbers prove that, Like television, why isn't gambling?

582
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 7: Why is the numbers prove that NFL is king?

583
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: For that reason?

584
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think the biggest thing is too

585
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: man on with football is in why I even got to.

586
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 8: The sport even made.

587
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: It's a lot of crossover that people really don't talk about.

588
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: Man.

589
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 8: You talk about the fan base.

590
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: You see like some of these fan base for the

591
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: Raiders and Servoteam, these rabbit fan base.

592
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 8: It's like how all of MMA fans are, right? They

593
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 8: just rabbit.

594
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 4: They they'll come at you as hard genre that you've

595
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: dealt with it before. They just attack you when you

596
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: say something. They love you tomorrow they hate you, and

597
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 4: they're they're passionate. They're passionate, man, And that's you know

598
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: the correlation between you know, football and in the mate

599
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: it's very similar.

600
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 5: So I'm very excited to get into Lights out Sports

601
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 5: and your next event of course for Lights Out of

602
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: Stream Fighting coming up June fifteen, six days from right now.

603
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: I just wanted to ask you one quick football question

604
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 5: in terms of your career and some of the health

605
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: issues you had later on in your career. I mean,

606
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: Kenny and I were sort of reminiscing about your win

607
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 5: over the New England Patriot our team, your rookie year,

608
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 5: and the sack dance. I was looking at sack dance

609
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: videos this morning, my man. You know, but when you

610
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 5: look back on your body of work, you know, what

611
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 5: is your what is your biggest takeaway and maybe your

612
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: best moment that you feel like you had either collegiately

613
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: or professionally as a football player.

614
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 8: You know.

615
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 4: I think you know, first of all, when you get

616
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: to the NFL, the talent level is just ridiculous, right.

617
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: So you see some of these big name guys from

618
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: that SEC or big tennis all world, and you get

619
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: to the NFL, you don't hear about it anymore. And

620
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: it's a reason for that because the talent just jumps

621
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: up so then you got your your Pro bowlers, right,

622
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: that's the lead. Did you get to the All pro level,

623
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: which is very very league, then you get to the

624
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: offensive and defensive play of the year. Both these guys

625
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: are like just different from everybody else. And you know,

626
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: I was up for the Defensive Player of the Year

627
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: I think three times three four times back to back.

628
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: And so you don't really notice at the time, right

629
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: being having your name up there, and like, you know,

630
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: ray Lewis is my big brother.

631
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 8: That's that's family.

632
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: But senior name up there with Ray for three or

633
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: four years straight, and send your name up there, would

634
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: would Champ Bailly and some of the guys that that

635
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: the Hall of Famous. You started looking back like, damn,

636
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: you know, I had it. It was pretty pretty good.

637
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: And then you kind of just I had the injuries, right,

638
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: I told my achilles first, and then I came back

639
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: and I ended up tearing my knee. Well I'm sorry,

640
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: I took my knee first, then my achilles, and so

641
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: then after that just never was able to get healthy.

642
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: And as soon as that they just had the big

643
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: achilles injury just came back for.

644
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 8: Small Hill.

645
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: So you know, so me being a former athlete. You know,

646
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: I reached out and I know Jamal Hill pretty pretty well.

647
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 4: We I hit him up when he towards Achilles and

648
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: let him know, like, dude, this is what you need

649
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: to do because Achilles one is pretty rough, right so

650
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: you So then you started to pass this information on

651
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: the guys.

652
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 8: And I just love the sport, love being in it.

653
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: When I go back and look at my football creer man,

654
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, you know, defensive rook of the Year

655
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: and all pro.

656
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 8: You don't understand that until you get away from me.

657
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: I think that when you're living in and you just

658
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: you don't look at things that way, But when you

659
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: get away from it, you start to appreciate it a

660
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: little bit more.

661
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: Well, you're a total legend, man, and it really is

662
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 5: a thrill for us to have you. Kenny, I promise

663
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you get in here. But in terms

664
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: of m M A, what first peaked your interest and

665
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: when did the wheel start to churn that maybe you

666
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 5: would devote some of your professional life to this great sport.

667
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: You know, I grew up in that PG County, Prince

668
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: Joe County, a little bit outside of Washington, DC area.

669
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: So my uncles were professional boxers, you know, so I

670
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: grew up you know, boxing fans. I grew up not

671
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: too far from shot ray Land this gym right there

672
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: in Palmer Park, Maryland. I used to go train at

673
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: Round One and Capitol Heights, and you know, a lot

674
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: of a lot of boxes in that DMV area. I mean,

675
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: I remember hell Man Sometimes my neighborhood, Ready Bowl used

676
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: to come down when I was a kid, like cham

677
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: will come down.

678
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 8: So I was around it all the time.

679
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: In two thousand, between two thousand and five and two

680
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: thousand and six, I was boxing in Jay Glazier's gym,

681
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: hitting the midst and Jay came over and said, hey, dude,

682
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: you can You know you can box. See my uncle's

683
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: are professional boxes. I did it here and there. He said,

684
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: I think MMA will help you in football.

685
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 8: And I said, what do you.

686
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: Mean with your hands and being active with your hands

687
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: and being able to open your hips some of this

688
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: stuff whatever. I said, Look, if it's gonna help me

689
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: in football, I'll be let me know where it goes.

690
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: Jay text me to address to a gym. The next

691
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: day I show up, Jay's on my left and Randy

692
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: go Tour is on my right. So my first day

693
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: ever training any kind of MMA was with Randy and

694
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: that's how it became really good friends with Randy. So

695
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: we were pumbling, we started rolling, and I understood that day.

696
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 8: It humbles the hell out of you, dude.

697
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: I mean, MMA is one of the most humbling sports

698
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: that you could never do because I you know, I

699
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: got a five hundred pounds bench press, six ninety squad

700
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: you know, forty one and a half ins verb and

701
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: yet Randy was tossing my ass and rounding the gym.

702
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: So and you leave defeated. But me, being an athlete

703
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: wanting to always get better, I text Randy back and hey,

704
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: I'm coming back tomorrow.

705
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 8: What time you there? And I texted me again the

706
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 8: next day, what time you did?

707
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: So I start showing up a gym every day only

708
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: because I just I had, you know, getting my ass

709
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: tossed around like I was, and I wanted to learn.

710
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: And so any way, I came out in there those

711
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: six season I had. Now I'm really good with my hands, right,

712
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: because that's what I'm doing the whole all season. I'm

713
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: really good turning the corner, bending the edges against those

714
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty pounds offensive linemen and now I'm

715
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: starting to do things and those bigger guys and Randy

716
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: did to me right. So it's kind of one of

717
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: the things in why I talked to so many NFL

718
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: current and former guys to get into the sport, pick

719
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: up some form of discipline because it really could change

720
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: your life.

721
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: That is awesome, man.

722
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 7: I know Jay has talked to so many NFL guys

723
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 7: and trying to get them in to kind of work.

724
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 7: And what do you think was the most valuable aspect

725
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 7: of that training? Was it mental? Was it physical? Or

726
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 7: understanding your body? What do you think it was?

727
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: It was?

728
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: It was all of it Because I think that and

729
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: I jumped into what one of the best you could

730
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: do it?

731
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: Right?

732
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 8: So I'm not, you know, training with somebody that's coming

733
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 8: up this, yeah, you know it Randy contol So you know.

734
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 4: You company start pumbling and I'm seeing the way he

735
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: was able to use his body in this lever just

736
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: kind of snake under my arms as soon as he

737
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: felt me leaning toward certain ways that he would just

738
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: take me right. He was just so I learned that

739
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 4: part and also too, man, it's nothing like you know

740
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: you've been on the third or fourth round and a

741
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: guy on top of it. You can't get up right.

742
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: He's taking you down every single time, and you have to,

743
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: you know, use your hips to obviously explode up get

744
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: him off of you, right. And now you started working

745
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: to your transitions. And it's just so much. And for one,

746
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: football is a violent game, and being an outside lineback

747
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: backer and pass rusher, you have to have violent hands.

748
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 8: You have to have these violent.

749
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 4: Hands when you chopped club and your guy ripping and

750
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: being up, so that all those things I just picked

751
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: up and I started training every y'all season.

752
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 8: Chuck Lendell, you know, one of my best friends and

753
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 8: Randy Ready to.

754
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: A Tito ortis matter of fact, when I trained with

755
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: Jay and Tyron Woodley was just coming over.

756
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 8: Like the man two thousand.

757
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: So I was training with Tie and so you know,

758
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: I've been around this thing man for seventeen years. And

759
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 4: so you get a chance to know the coaches, know

760
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: the managers, know the gyms.

761
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 8: Right, uh.

762
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: And so that's how I just fell into it. When

763
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: I retired, I got straight to TV. I went the

764
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: NFL Network for a couple of years, and I was

765
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: at Fox Sports a couple of years. Hes been a

766
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 4: couple of years back to Fox Sports, and.

767
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 8: So you get what I'm saying. Everything kind of came.

768
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: Together and understanding media, TV production, knowing and loving the sport.

769
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: And that's when the launching lights out Extreme Fighting in twenty.

770
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 7: Nineteen and charge was there a fight that you can

771
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 7: remember in the UFC that kind of.

772
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: Brought you over. You're like, man, I got a follow

773
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: this thing.

774
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 8: Randy a tour chuckl'dale in two thousand and five was

775
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 8: first you know.

776
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: He's an OG fan, that he's an OG ultimate Fighter

777
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: one fan.

778
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 8: John No, no, no, no. What I'm trying to tell

779
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 8: you is.

780
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: I was one of the first ones around it, you know,

781
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: from out from outside and and you know, obviously because

782
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 4: what USC has done, it's such a global phenomenon now

783
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: that everybody knows about it. But there was a time

784
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: that this was resistant. People not forgetting that this fort

785
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 4: was resisted. And that's why I go, you know, I

786
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: go talk to Dane.

787
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 8: I see danea.

788
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: Probably every few weeks or so. I talk. We talked

789
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: probably once a week, once every the week or by text.

790
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: I just you know, knowing what I know.

791
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 8: Now being in this side.

792
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, to see the doors that they had to knock

793
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: down in order to get to where they are. It

794
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: kind of paved the way for any other promotion in

795
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: this business. And so that's why I get upset, man

796
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 4: with people, especially in this business. And I'm not naming

797
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: those names, but when other organizations take shots at the

798
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 4: USC or whatever, because everybody got there gratch about something.

799
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: But what they did for us to be in this

800
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: industry now to be accepted is massive.

801
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 8: It with no social media back then, right, it was this.

802
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: Fort was like what in New York just got the

803
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 4: green light or twenty fifteen to six?

804
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, yeah, that's here in the US.

805
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: You know, it's you know, I always when I talked

806
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: to Dana and them, I always give them, you know,

807
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 4: just high praise because of what they've done in the sport.

808
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 6: So how do you athletically resist the urge?

809
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: Right?

810
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: I know you just turned forty two weeks ago, right,

811
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 5: but don't tell me that you uh, if you had

812
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: your health, you couldn't be in the UFC's heavyweight division

813
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 5: top fifteen in the next six to twelve months.

814
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 6: Right, how do you how do you resist that urge? Sean?

815
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 6: I want to see in there come.

816
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: On, so I listen, I had about five or six

817
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 4: years ago, nobody was gonna tell me that I wouldn't gonna

818
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 4: fight somebody, right.

819
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 8: Look, you can take me outside the back out.

820
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: Of my ash trash can I'm fighting something. I had

821
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: that it was going down. And in fact, you know,

822
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 4: I talked to Dana about it. He wanted to put together.

823
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 8: Fight with me and Grey Harty.

824
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, years ago, and we know we didn't

825
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 6: really dive into it before.

826
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 4: But you know, I know he wanted it happen, and

827
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: I wanted it to happen. It was just a it

828
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: was a time of things. I think at the time,

829
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: I was working with a WW network and I was

830
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: still doing some football work broadcasts and stuff. But I

831
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 4: was down, man. It was just a time and thing,

832
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: all right. And then Greg what happened was why I

833
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 4: ended up not doing it. Greg went on like a

834
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: losing street of three or four fights. It was wasn't

835
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: the same. Yep, Yeah, it wasn't the same, and I

836
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 4: ended up not doing it. But yeah, it almost it

837
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: almost happened.

838
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: In terms of commentary, I know you mentioned some of

839
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 5: the stuff that you have done in the NFL. It

840
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 5: isn't out of the realm of possibility that at some

841
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: point down the line there might be an opportunity in

842
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: a UFC broadcast booth.

843
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: Right.

844
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 5: I know you aren't a former MMA fighter, right, but

845
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 5: I don't know that that would long term prevent you

846
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 5: from doing that. I mean, obviously you're a master orator.

847
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 5: You're efficient, right, you know how to not be long winded.

848
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 5: I mean I can see a lot of ability. Would

849
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 5: that be something that would would appeal to you to

850
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 5: be in like a major MMA broadcast booth?

851
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 8: Yeah?

852
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: Man, Look, I think first of all, before you get

853
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: and do anything, you have to love it, right, Like,

854
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: it can't be a paycheck for you, because when you

855
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: guys talk about it, it comes across of the crowd.

856
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: In the fans, they could tell, they can tell somebody's

857
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: not passionate about what they're talking about.

858
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 8: So I love the sport, and you know, I watch

859
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 8: every I.

860
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: Watch all the undercars, you know, any fight that I've

861
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: been into, you know, like the big celebrities and stuff

862
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: come in like the last three you might as to

863
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: say of the crowd where it's like two hundred people,

864
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: I love that, you know what I'm saying, And so yeah,

865
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: you got to have that type of love with the

866
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 4: for the sport. Yeah, but absolutely, I mean I would

867
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: I would love to do that even on a time

868
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: of time basis and something right right. I love the

869
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: sport man, to be honest.

870
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: One of our lead producers, Lappy, is a massive Chargers

871
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: fan and he listens to this podcast, as does our

872
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 5: lead producers at Candido. So that's part of the reason

873
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 5: I brought that up to put a little bug in

874
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 5: their ear. Let us talk though about lights out Sports,

875
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 5: the application, the ad supported service.

876
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 6: It's free and it's a really cool platform.

877
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 5: I dove in a little bit this morning, but before

878
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: we talk about your actual live MMA event on June fifteenth,

879
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: what makes lights out Sports and the nature of this

880
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 5: on like anything else that's out there.

881
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: Well, you know, John Matta, be honest when I when

882
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: I retired, just like I said, I got straight in

883
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: the TV right. So when you work in these places,

884
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: you get to see the biggest and the best. When

885
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: you're a Fox Sports and ESPN, you get to see

886
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: who does what what, how to getting out of commercial breaks,

887
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: what camera does, what, control rooms, satellite trucks, you name

888
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 4: it and so. And also being a massive fan of MMA.

889
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 4: I used to own a team of the Cannon Series

890
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 4: in NASCAR some years ago, Jesse Ugi's team. He's one

891
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 4: of the two black drivers in NASCAR. Uh So I

892
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: operated and ran his team. And so you see these

893
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: sports the World Polka Tours, on the Glory, kick Boxes

894
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: on their swerve comeback. It got has really just about

895
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: any kind of combat sports. You're looking for speed Vision

896
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: to be up because that's motorsports.

897
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 8: Math TV just went up yesterday, and.

898
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: So I wanted to create this locker room vibe, man,

899
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: where it's like just sports and it's no shot at

900
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 4: the rest of the streaming services out there. But I

901
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: feel like certain certain sports are not cater too and

902
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 4: again lost in the shuffle because like these other stream serves,

903
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: you got three to four hundred plus fast channels, right,

904
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: and so you got to go through all these channels

905
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: to find your one particular sport. You know, if to me,

906
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: billiards is big, I watched you know billiard is big,

907
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: and darts or whole and you know these these other

908
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: these other secondary sports and nobody's really paying attention. So

909
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: so I just wanted to shine light in one place

910
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: another one hundred percent free. Currently we're on rocal Amazon Fire,

911
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: Apple TV, will be up on Visio next week, LGTV,

912
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: any major CTV platform.

913
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: We're on lights Out, lights Out Sports, and by the way,

914
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 5: Chess dot Com as well.

915
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 6: So one of our big time.

916
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 5: UFC producers, Mike Ricci, left within the last eighteen months

917
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 5: or so to head up all the production at Chess

918
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 5: dot Com.

919
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 6: So that was cool for a lot of Yeah, I had.

920
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 8: No idea, right, So these chess tournaments get.

921
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 6: Serious, yeah, dude, oh yeah great.

922
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: And then I listened to the commentary on on lights

923
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: Out Sports because it breaks down the strategy. I'm oh,

924
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: you know what, I like this, and so I started

925
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: getting more in the chess when we start working.

926
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 8: With those guys.

927
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 6: I love it. Lights Out Extreme Fighting.

928
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: Your next live event is this weekend June fifteenth in California.

929
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 5: If people want to buy tickets, how can they do that?

930
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 5: And if people want to watch it, obviously lights Out Sports, Yes, yep.

931
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 8: Yep, lights OUTXCEP dot Com.

932
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: We'll be out Casino Palma will be Cassino Palma next

933
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: abage June fifteenth, And this was.

934
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 8: Pretty cool man. It will be on lights Our Sports

935
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 8: TV as well. And this was pretty cool.

936
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: Because we got Tommy Aaron, who's our guy that got

937
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: the belt right now on he's Tony Ferguson's student. Oh yeah, yo,

938
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: so we got like I think one of one or

939
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: two King Valastis guys is fighting on his car too.

940
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: So again it goes back to my roofs of knowing

941
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 4: these guys from yeah, late two thousands and now they

942
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 4: had their own Uh you know, they're.

943
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 8: On fighters, narrow gyms, narre on camps.

944
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: But Jordan Bailey is a big ticket seller on this yeah, Aaron,

945
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: and Jordan Belly is a big ticket seller in San Diego.

946
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 8: Tommy's just coming off a big win over at BKC

947
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 8: as well.

948
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 5: So yeah, if I want to like fight my twin

949
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 5: brother in an amateur setting, can we do it under

950
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: the lights out banner?

951
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Or no?

952
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: Oh?

953
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 8: I would love that.

954
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll make that to fight, all right, Okay a night,

955
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: but just let me know, you know, what do we

956
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: got to do?

957
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 6: All right, we'll figure it out.

958
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe we go shirts and skins, depending on where

959
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: I'm at at that scorede in my life. But uh,

960
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: all right, Sean merryman, before we let you get on

961
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 5: at it here when Tom Brady was roasted recently, Bill Belichick,

962
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 5: who is the human being? If I could sit down

963
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: and have dinner with anyone, it would be him, He said.

964
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: The biggest joke of this whole fucking roast is that

965
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 5: Rodney Harrison's not in the Hall of Fame. Now, I

966
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 5: don't know how much you have crossed Rodney's path over

967
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 5: the years, but I can just tell you, as a

968
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: diehard New England Patriots season ticket holder who lived the

969
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 5: first thirty two years of my life in Massachusetts, how

970
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 5: is thirty seven not in the fucking Hall of Fame?

971
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 6: Please tell me what I'm missing?

972
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 8: You know, and I know.

973
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 4: Rodney well, and let me tell you him at Junior

974
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: Seal Is.

975
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 8: When I got to San Diego, I picked up their regimen.

976
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: I found out every doctor, every therapist, as nutritionists, everybody

977
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: they wanted to go.

978
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 8: That those two guys want to go see, I went

979
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 8: to go find them.

980
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: They used to have these breakfast work out that they

981
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 4: called a breakfast club at six am before everybody else

982
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: come in. I adopted that when I started working out,

983
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: I had my own breakfast club and I work out

984
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: before the actual team get in. It's a shame with

985
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: this Hall of what this committee's doing to some of

986
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: these guys.

987
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 8: It's not fair.

988
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: And if you got personal vendetas to people, then say it.

989
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: Don't say it because it's not talent in the productions

990
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 4: on field. Just say that we don't like this guy

991
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 4: because right, and we just had the same thing that

992
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: happened to my former team and Antonio Gates. Until everybody

993
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: knows Antonio Gates is, I don't care if the Chargers

994
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: or not. He is a guaranteed first ballot and so

995
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: I just want somebody from the community to discuss publicly

996
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: how this happens, right, Like, what are you looking for?

997
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: We all can understand because I played against Antonio Gates

998
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 4: every day.

999
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 8: So you ain't got to tell me twice about Antonio Gates.

1000
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: But I know everything the body of work and the fear,

1001
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: the fear that.

1002
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 8: That Rodney Harrison put into ye just still talked about.

1003
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so when you have these generational guys come

1004
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 4: in and strikes fear in other people and they've done

1005
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: what they've done on the football field, that's not a

1006
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: football move that the Hall of Fame is doing this

1007
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: personal and they need to be open and.

1008
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 8: Honest about that.

1009
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, No, you put that well.

1010
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: And I'm not even sitting here suggesting that like Teddy

1011
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: Bruski is Sean Merriman or Ray Lewis, But dude, I mean,

1012
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: it just is crazy to mean. I know Richard Seymour

1013
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 5: and Ty Law right, but like the fact that those

1014
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: linebackers who produced all those championships for the Patriots get

1015
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: no credit to me is just fucking insane. But June fifteenth,

1016
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: it all goes down. Lights out of stream fighting. Check

1017
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: out lights out Sports right now on Roku, Apple, iOS, Android,

1018
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: Amazon's Fire TV as well. At Sean Merriman, You're a

1019
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 5: fucking legend, man, werepreciate the time, and uh hope to

1020
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: cross your wake at some point of the not to

1021
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 5: distant future. But anything we can do to uh to

1022
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: help your cause. Man, We're big fans and uh you know,

1023
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 5: even as Patriots fans, we have a ton of respect

1024
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 5: for everything you did on the field as well, my man.

1025
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, man, and uh, well, I'll tell you off,

1026
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: but I appreciate it.

1027
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1028
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 6: You tell me anything you got in well please, hey,

1029
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 6: thank you, my man.

1030
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 8: We'll tell you appreciate it.

1031
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: There is Sewn Merryman, former All Pro NFL linebacker and

1032
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 5: the founder of lights Out Extreme Fighting. Check out his

1033
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: new streaming platform, lights Out Sports. Ray Longo has been

1034
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: catching some Raymond's out there in New York.

1035
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 6: You look you look like you?

1036
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: Uh Hollywood?

1037
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 6: Do you look amaze? I've been shooting a movie.

1038
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: In Atlanta, like a million bucks Kenny, So, ray Longo,

1039
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: Man a T shirt? By the way, what what's that?

1040
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: You got it?

1041
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: What's that remote?

1042
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Better than well?

1043
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I got your fucking face on.

1044
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: Keep doing this all yet, man, John.

1045
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: Dot com if you want a twenty percent off your

1046
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 5: order promo code one more sleep Raymond pull me to

1047
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 5: crud of getting a finish on a Saturday night.

1048
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, man, please, that was a

1049
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: different cat last night. I enjoyed the shit out of

1050
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: that fight. I'm fucking sorry I didn't go to the fight.

1051
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: But that kid, come on, man, he wanted that. He

1052
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: wanted to make a statement that other kid was tough.

1053
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: He was a woutch six and one in his list

1054
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: seven fights. Yeah, I mean he ran through that kid

1055
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: like a freight train. And you know, I don't know,

1056
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: and I don't know. I don't know why they. I

1057
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: just hope it's not one of those things where, you know,

1058
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: they've made so many negative statements about him, they don't

1059
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: want to look bad. They have to just take the guy,

1060
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: give him a shot. Whatever happens happens. Man. But if

1061
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: that wasn't exciting to anybody, and I don't know, let's

1062
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: keep it. Let's keep it copasetic, you know what I mean.

1063
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: But all right, so for those of us that maybe

1064
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 5: don't watch regional mma when the UFC and the Stanley

1065
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 5: Cup final is on, can you at least tell people

1066
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 5: about the result for Pumi Nakuda that prioritized to finish

1067
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: and now potentially on the precipice of a UFC contract,

1068
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 5: tell us about the fight if you would.

1069
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he flew out to Texas. He took on I

1070
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: guess a regional guy in a new promotion for him. Anyway,

1071
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: opponent misswait ponent missedwait poom. He didn't care, he wanted

1072
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: to fight, and the fight got stopped after the first

1073
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: round ground and pound. He opened up a vicious cut

1074
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: on his head, and I think he really would have

1075
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: wanted it to go another round where he could have

1076
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: ended it, you know, in a different manner, but I

1077
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: mean it it was pretty vicious while it listed, and

1078
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: like again, I enjoyed the shit out of that. I

1079
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: love his attitude. He's been up against a lot, you know,

1080
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: he thinks he should be in there, you know, kind

1081
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: of holding him back, and I think he did what

1082
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: he had to do, man, and he looked absolutely fantastic

1083
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: to me, attitude wise, technique wise, just the whole package. Man.

1084
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: I think he showed a little of everything.

1085
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 6: It was exactly what he needed.

1086
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 5: And I read an article on MMA Junkie suggesting that

1087
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: the UFC has told him he needs to put guys away.

1088
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 5: We've had a lot of discourse on the anaicin Floran

1089
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: podcast with you about Pumi Nakuda. So what do you

1090
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 5: think now, Mick Maner does with this result? Do you

1091
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 5: think that this is enough? I mean, I hate to

1092
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: put you on the spot, but you know, we seemingly

1093
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 5: are sitting on one of the best two or three

1094
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 5: flyway prospects outside. The UFC seems to have a check

1095
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 5: mark in most boxes.

1096
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 6: You would want to check. What's to hold up at

1097
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 6: this point?

1098
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. Look, I like Mick and I think,

1099
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: uh I love Mick. Yeah, I make it. It. Really

1100
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: is a good guy. And I don't know if this

1101
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: thing took legs in a different direction for another reason,

1102
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: but he's a good dude. I think he's gonna make

1103
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: the right call. I really do. I think he wanted

1104
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: to finish. I think pool he's got two finishes in

1105
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: his last two fights, is it. I mean he finished

1106
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: the guy in wherever the heck we were at time,

1107
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: but that's it. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I

1108
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: think I think he's gonna do the right thing, you know,

1109
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: And I think the right thing is to give the

1110
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: kid a shot, or at least they just give me

1111
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: two more fights or whatever I have to do. You know,

1112
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: I think he really looked out standing last night. I

1113
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: think that's the type of fight that Mick wants to see.

1114
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: And again, unless there's something I don't know behind the scenes,

1115
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: I think Mick's gonna do the right thing and take them.

1116
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 5: So Raymond, lot being made of the stoppage in the

1117
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 5: main event last night between No Sordini Mobov and Jared

1118
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 5: Cannony or do you have anything for us on that?

1119
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: Uh? You know, look, I think it was an early stoppage.

1120
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: It's a five round fight. I think there were a

1121
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: lot of implications on that fight, you know, possibly for

1122
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: a title contender or you know, the guy gets a

1123
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: shot at the title. I think you have to let

1124
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: it go a little longer. But at the end of

1125
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: the day, if you know, Jason saw something in there

1126
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: and he wanted to protect that that guy from himself,

1127
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: then I think he did the right thing. But from

1128
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: the outside looking in, and I wasn't in the octagon,

1129
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: it looked it looked early the guy was on skates.

1130
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: But you know, like again, I think, Kenny, when a

1131
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: guy starts running, I think that's a good sign. You know,

1132
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: he has the he has the presence of mind to go,

1133
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm getting the fuck out of here, you know what

1134
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean. It might not look good, but he's making it.

1135
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: Let me just get my legs.

1136
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: He was trying to.

1137
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it with Moray's and and thank god

1138
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: Peterson gave him the time and he's running. He's not.

1139
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't in trouble. I mean, if you talk to him,

1140
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: he said, I just want to I just got to

1141
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: collect my head, which.

1142
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: What you want to do?

1143
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, it looked like it was. It

1144
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: did look like it was early, but like it, at

1145
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: the end of the day, if you if your mission

1146
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: is to protect the fighters, then it's just hard to

1147
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: argue because he could have taken some extra shots there.

1148
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: But I think in a five round fight like that

1149
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: with with two experienced, high level guys, you gotta let

1150
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: it go. Yeah, you just have to owe it to

1151
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: the guy to let it go. And he looked like

1152
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: he was fine afterwards. You know, he did skate for

1153
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: a couple of seconds, but it looks like he collected himself.

1154
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 7: And it's certainly more nuanced than than just saying you

1155
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 7: need to intelligently defend yourself. But that's intelligently defending yourself, right,

1156
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 7: if you're moving your feet, your hands are up, you're

1157
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 7: trying to.

1158
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: Actually dodge punches.

1159
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah yeah, last two or three punches didn't land clean, right,

1160
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 7: so you kind of have.

1161
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: To let it play out a little bit more so, Yeah,

1162
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

1163
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, it's a little it's a it's a

1164
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: shame because you know, when Cannony is a big puncher too.

1165
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: I mean he did hit him coming in. You know,

1166
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: the other guy ate it well, you know, but you know,

1167
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: with guys that size and that's strong. One punch. You've

1168
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: seen it happen a thousand times. He's against the cage,

1169
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: covering up, he comes out swinging the other guy's down. Yeah,

1170
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: so yo, yeah, without a doubt, that's a great example.

1171
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: But I you know, like again, Jason's a great ref

1172
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: and I'm sure in his heart he felt he was

1173
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: doing the right thing. And I think that good. You know.

1174
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: I like looking at that stuff more than anything, you

1175
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I think his heart was in

1176
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: the right spot. Whether it was a mistake or not.

1177
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: To me, it looked like it was early. I would

1178
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: have given the guy a little more time. But those

1179
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: are split decision, you know, decisions you have to make.

1180
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, at the end of the day,

1181
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: he comes back to fight again, and that's all that matters.

1182
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 8: All right. Hell's everybody? Good? God?

1183
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 2: God.

1184
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 5: So my daughter watched Tommy Boy and found out who

1185
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 5: Chris Farley was for the first time last night, and

1186
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 5: we went down a little bit of a rabbit hole.

1187
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 5: And you know, I didn't realize Tommy Boy was released

1188
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety five. Chris passed away in this number

1189
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 5: of nineteen ninety seven. I was a fast college and

1190
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 5: I had a shrine on my dorm room door with

1191
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 5: pictures of Chris Farley. I was absolutely devastated at the time.

1192
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 5: All Right, that's neither here nor there. I want to

1193
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 5: get into some of these other performances if I could

1194
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 5: from this UFC fight night, so ray for the second

1195
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 5: time in as many weeks, a UFC live event begins

1196
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: with eight decisions in the first nine fights was and

1197
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 5: everything changed.

1198
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was not looking good.

1199
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't looking good.

1200
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 5: So we talked a little bit about Dominic Rays earlier.

1201
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 5: I want to probe you if I could on Raul

1202
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: Rosas Junior. It sounds like you got something on dom Well.

1203
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: Look, I mean just I think he's a really nice

1204
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: guy always, you know, when I see him, he's always

1205
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 2: just a total gentleman. And I was I gotta tell you, man,

1206
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: that was a feel good moment. It really was to

1207
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: see that guy get back on track. I know how

1208
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: hard that is. And you could see, you know, he

1209
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: looked like it might have been going the other way,

1210
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: and then he landed that big, great, you know, big

1211
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: left hand and then he just followed it up. And

1212
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: it means so much to those guys. That's not an

1213
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: easy position to be and when you're losing and you're

1214
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: getting knocked out like that, So man, I don't know,

1215
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: I just felt great for the guy. I hope he's

1216
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: back in the mix, you know. I just you know,

1217
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: it's it's a really really rough sport when things start

1218
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: to slide backwards like that. To me, it was just

1219
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 2: great and against a guy that could definitely knock your lights.

1220
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: I love Dustin Jacoby too, two really nice guys. So

1221
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: uh yeah, hats off to rays Man. I'm really just

1222
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: happy for the guy because I know what it's like

1223
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: to train people and to have, you know, things go

1224
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: sideways a little bit. To see a guy get back

1225
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: on track like that, those are those are really nice moments.

1226
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: That's really all I gotta say about that.

1227
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 6: I mean, how fucking stupid do we look right now?

1228
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1229
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 6: Kenny looks six six? No headroom whatsoever? I mean, Jesus

1230
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 6: fucking Christ, can we It's a lot better on episode

1231
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 6: four ninety two, can we? Jesus? I adjust?

1232
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: I overcorrected, corrected.

1233
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: Kenny's a giant. Kenny's a giant of most men anyway,

1234
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: what are you kidding me? I tell you know, you

1235
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: know what it is He's got such a funny, nice,

1236
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: beautiful personality. You know, we talked about in the Jim

1237
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Kenny this guy was literally he was a great fighter,

1238
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: literally a great fighter, you know.

1239
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: What I mean.

1240
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: And it's you know, like again, he his personality doesn't

1241
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: even you don't even look at him as a fighter.

1242
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: But if you go back and watch those fights, super talented.

1243
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: You know, I say it all the time, different weight

1244
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: classes didn't give his ship, did it all? Uh? You know,

1245
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 2: it would have been nice, Kenny if you were around

1246
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: this time with all the social media and bullshit talking

1247
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: about you. I'm talking about you, and I'm talking about

1248
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: you as I always we were talking about in the gym.

1249
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: Just a beautiful footwork, great elbows, didn't come to finish fights,

1250
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: great great stick with the Samurai stuff coming out, you know,

1251
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: it's just a great dude. You see. He can't even

1252
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: take it.

1253
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 6: He can't.

1254
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: But you know why I you know why I do

1255
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: this because people have short memories and they forget quick man.

1256
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: You're rut in the sport for three years. Nobody even

1257
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: knows who the hell you are. There's just always a

1258
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: turnover of fans and stuff. So I think it's important

1259
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: for guys to go back and look and then see

1260
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 2: what this guy did because for the best of the best,

1261
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: and uh you know just was was really a talented,

1262
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: super talented fighter.

1263
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 5: One YouTube commenter says that Ray needs to be framed

1264
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 5: up poorly because it's part of your charm.

1265
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, good call the main card minute.

1266
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah about and again we've trotted out like Ken Flow's

1267
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 5: Boston Herald All Star photo on the program, in which

1268
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 5: he looks like a total dick. Right, you started your

1269
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 5: point with the juxtaposition of Kenny's this really nice guy

1270
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 5: but as a competitor, uh, nasty prick.

1271
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1272
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: Well, look that's what I love about people, right, You

1273
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: got to be like a light switch. You don't want

1274
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: to walk around like a free can lunatic all day long.

1275
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: But you know, you laugh in one minute and you

1276
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: could flip at the next minute and be a killer.

1277
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: So it's a beautiful dual personality.

1278
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 5: Sometimes though, when he would show up to do MMA live, right,

1279
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 5: it'd be his last show, come and drive in from

1280
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 5: Massachusetts to Bristol, Connecticut. You know, he'd be like seven

1281
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 5: or eight weeks out right, and he would show up

1282
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 5: at six point thirty in the morning, which meant he

1283
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 5: would leave Boston at like four forty five or five am,

1284
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 5: and sometimes he walk in and just get like a

1285
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 5: soft what's up, dude, And it's like, yeah, all right,

1286
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 5: did this kid is working space today?

1287
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: All right?

1288
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 6: I probably shouldn't say this. Roll Rosas Junior is one

1289
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 6: of my favorite fighters on the roster. Can flow this

1290
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 6: kid man nineteen years of age, fighting through adversity, such

1291
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 6: a confident grappler and certainly doesn't hurt your confidence training

1292
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 6: with the likes of al Jamin Sterling and Rob Dwallas Willie.

1293
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 5: But what did you make of Roll Rosas Junior getting

1294
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 5: it done against Ricky Tercios there with a rear naked

1295
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 5: choking Round.

1296
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 7: Two, he broke him down bit by bit. You know,

1297
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 7: I think that Terse did a good job. Round one

1298
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 7: had some good moments, was able to take Rosas's back.

1299
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 7: I didn't think Ross was defending that neck.

1300
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: For a little bit. I go, what is he doing?

1301
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: He's just looking to punch him.

1302
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 7: But I think he was just that comfortable and confident

1303
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 7: in his ability to defend that choke that he's like,

1304
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 7: all right, I'm just gonna pound away at his face

1305
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 7: actually loosens it up, I'll get the eventual position eventually,

1306
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 7: And that's exactly what he did. Wasn't a perfect performance,

1307
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 7: but you saw the confidence in his game. You saw

1308
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 7: that he is maturing a little bit. He knows how

1309
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 7: to stay composed even when he's in a bad spot now.

1310
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 7: And these are critical experiences that you need to have

1311
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 7: as a fighter, especially if you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old.

1312
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 7: You know, it's crazy and the fact that he's getting

1313
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 7: that experience now only botes, you know, better for him

1314
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 7: in the future. And he's exciting. Man, he's exciting. He's

1315
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 7: a go yeah, and he kind of reminds me of

1316
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 7: like Diego Sanchez in his prime. He just kind of

1317
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 7: moves forward. He's looking at take your back. He's gonna

1318
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 7: stay in your face. And he was relentless until he

1319
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 7: got that tap.

1320
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll tell you, John, I you know, at the beginning,

1321
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything. Really, he was a young kid.

1322
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: I thought it was great that he was young. He

1323
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: got in there, But last night was the first time

1324
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: I go, man, at nineteen, he's growing really beautifully. Like

1325
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: that was a day that was a great matchup for him.

1326
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: Just enough. Adversely, like Kenny says, those experience, if you

1327
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: could get him like he had the other night, or priceless,

1328
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: And yeah, I saw something man For a nineteen year

1329
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: old kid, I think now I'm starting to lean like

1330
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: he's going to make a run. He I mean, he's

1331
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: gonna be around for a long time. That's like he

1332
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: could he fights another eleven years. He's only thirty. I

1333
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: think the experience, I mean, it's crazy when you think

1334
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: of the kid's age, but last night I saw some

1335
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: That kid's a fighter, you know what I mean. That's

1336
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: what you look more for. The attitude and like Kenny said,

1337
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: he didn't get crazy in certain positions. And you know,

1338
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: look when he lost to Rodriguez, that could have derailed

1339
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: him for a year or two, you know what I mean.

1340
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: He came back. He was able to block that out,

1341
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: get some wins, look good doing it. Yeah, for nineteen,

1342
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: that's a scary that's a scary kid now. And he

1343
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: you know, he keeps getting that momentum and the confidence going.

1344
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: I liked what I saw, man. I thought that was super,

1345
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: super impressive.

1346
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 5: Certainly knows his way around a rear naked choke. And

1347
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 5: those who didn't want to give him the benefit of

1348
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 5: the doubt when he pulled out of that fight against

1349
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 5: Ricky Tertios in Mexico City just minutes before. Maybe this

1350
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 5: has you casting less doubt. I mean, Ricky Tertios is

1351
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 5: a good fighter. He comes like a bat out of hell.

1352
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 5: And to Kenny's point, right, like Rosas Junior, his inner

1353
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 5: monologue there is like, I'm not even gonna fight hands

1354
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 5: because this choke is presenting me with no danger.

1355
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, I'm excited about him.

1356
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 5: And uh yeah, I kind of want to get a

1357
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 5: tattoo of Raoul Rosas's juniors somewhere on my body with

1358
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 5: that big fucking shit.

1359
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna do it now, but maybe when I'm

1360
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 6: like sixty.

1361
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: Now.

1362
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: That is that is I'm telling you that. Go back

1363
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: and look at Salvador Sanchez. That's why I said like this.

1364
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: I like this kid, man, I really do. But and

1365
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the other thing, John too is Christian

1366
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: Rodriguez is no joke. That kid is a really good fighter.

1367
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: So he got he got without knowing it. He got

1368
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: fed to the lions right because Rodriguez was new, he

1369
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: was coming off the regional circu but he's proven to

1370
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: be a handful for everybody. He's doing great. That kid's

1371
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: really good.

1372
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1373
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 2: And you know, even a rematch, even though I think

1374
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: Christian they made him go up to forty five, even

1375
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: a rematches, No, that would not be a joke either.

1376
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that kid. That kid's really good. Yeah,

1377
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: another understated, you know, laid back type of guy. But yeah,

1378
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: he could fight that kid.

1379
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 5: Well, given all the highlights on the main card. Thank goodness,

1380
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 5: this card happened in Louisville, Kentucky and not at the

1381
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 5: ufc APEX Ken Flow. You are the only fighter in

1382
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 5: you see history whose elbows are referenced as razor sharp

1383
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 5: on his Wikipedia page. Bruno Fijeda lands a spinning back

1384
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 5: elbow on Dustin Stoltzfus at one point in round one,

1385
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 5: and then he lands another one even nastier later in

1386
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 5: the round to get him out of there. I mean,

1387
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 5: an undeniable bonus winner.

1388
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 6: Dude. How about the fucking hulk Bruno Fijeda with a

1389
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 6: knockout over the weekend?

1390
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 3: Huh, dude. He's got some power, man, He's got some

1391
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 3: serious power.

1392
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 7: And you know it's one thing to land one over

1393
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 7: the course of your career, like you landed a spinning

1394
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 7: elbow flush that is awesome even if you don't get

1395
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 7: a knockout. It's just a cool technique to see executed

1396
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 7: at the highest level. This dude led to two in

1397
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 7: the same flight, and his opponent both times Like the

1398
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 7: second one, it was just he got all of the

1399
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 7: orbital or cheek bone of Stoltzfus and just crushed them,

1400
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 7: just crushed them, landed it leaned at the right time.

1401
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 3: Uh, dude, that was beautiful to watch. Man. He's he's uh,

1402
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: he's a dangerous guy.

1403
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, let me tell you him. He's a spinning machine.

1404
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 2: That guy he just kept spinning. Yeah something something's got

1405
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: a land or he would have spun himself right out

1406
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: of the acting guy. Yeah. Yeah, he was a spin

1407
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: to win, is correct.

1408
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 8: Ray.

1409
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 5: Notice how Kenny called it a spinning elbow and not

1410
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 5: a spinning back elbow. It's referenced here on Wikipedia as

1411
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 5: a spinning back elbow, and I think it was thrice

1412
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 5: referenced as such on the air. But Kenny, it's not

1413
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 5: a back elbow. It's just a spinning elbow, right, an

1414
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 5: elbow exactly right, Like it's not like the back of

1415
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 5: a fist. It's not like a spinning backfist, right, there's

1416
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 5: no back of the elbow.

1417
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: Really, the back of the el I don't even know.

1418
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but we digressed.

1419
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: The arm would be the back of the elbow. You

1420
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 3: don't want to hit anybody with the bet of the

1421
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: arm anyways.

1422
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. Also congratulations to Zachary Reis. Huge knockout of Julian Marquez.

1423
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 5: What a beautifully placed upper out there.

1424
01:03:59,440 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 6: And Kenhill.

1425
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 5: When are you gonna stop sleeping on Slovakia's Ludevid Klin?

1426
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: I mean, well, it's gonna see.

1427
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 7: It's gotta stop, is what it needs to happen at

1428
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 7: this point, because you look good. He looked really good. Yeah,

1429
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 7: just seemed better on all fronts. My man Moys says, uh,

1430
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 7: it just overwhelmed. It seemed on the feet and on

1431
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 7: the ground. Couldn't really get a whole lot going. Uh

1432
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 7: Clin look good man, it's he's he's a hard guy

1433
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 7: to predict, but I'm not gonna sleep on him next time.

1434
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 6: I think, huh, hey.

1435
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: Ray, I think I think Klein looked out standing. Oh

1436
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 2: I think that guy looked like a major problem for

1437
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: fifty five is.

1438
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he beats all

1439
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 5: your guys in the UFC A fifty five kidding, totally

1440
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 5: totally kidding.

1441
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 6: Nas, I love you. I'm totally fucking around.

1442
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: Nas is looking good?

1443
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: Is the man.

1444
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 6: I'm totally messing around.

1445
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 5: Someone's gotta mess with you, right, You're like the beloved

1446
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 5: baby face of the Anak and Florian podcast.

1447
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 6: Someone's I gotta fucking come at you.

1448
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm a babyface.

1449
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 6: You don't think you have a baby face.

1450
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: How long I'll take it? Sixty six?

1451
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 6: I mean you look forty nine.

1452
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I think I'll always be in years,

1453
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 9: I'll always be indebted because Swan Shelby, because we were

1454
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 9: backstage and I said something, because well, you know you're

1455
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 9: my age.

1456
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: I go, how old are you? He goes fifty two.

1457
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: I go, wait a minute, do you think I'm fifty?

1458
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 6: I love this guy now, Yeah, yeah, fifty two.

1459
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 2: I'll think sixty two.

1460
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 6: Hey, Ray before I let you go.

1461
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 5: Yes, Carlos Protest landed a beautifully time strike to the

1462
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 5: body right on the right side there, to the liver

1463
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 5: of Chuck Buffalo Charles Radkey. That was another performance of

1464
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 5: the night. Bonus dude, like what I have in my

1465
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 5: notes is like fatality question mark. And I'm not trying

1466
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 5: to be funny, like does that strike in my life

1467
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 5: because I have like less muscle there. I mean, dude,

1468
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 5: just shut him completely down, and I wonder, like what

1469
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 5: it would do to you know, the average layman like me,

1470
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 5: a strike like that.

1471
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: I would do the same thing. You'd just be laying

1472
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: there an extra four or five minutes.

1473
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: I mean, that.

1474
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: Was a liver shot, right, yeah, let come those shots.

1475
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I again, like, I know, guys,

1476
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: you could hit him in the head with a brick.

1477
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding. Two by four, a brick, a

1478
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: cinder block. They get tapped to the liver. They're rolling

1479
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: around crying. I mean, I've seen it a hundred times

1480
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: where I'm telling you you could try to back the

1481
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: guy's head off with a club. Nothing, just laugh at

1482
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: you tap him in the liver. That's what happens. That's

1483
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: why that shot is beautiful, man, because it shuts you

1484
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: down in a totally different way.

1485
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 5: That was a crazy knee can flow, beautifully timed in place.

1486
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 6: Do you remember the worst body shot that you ever

1487
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 6: took ken flow?

1488
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: I do.

1489
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 7: I believe I was training over at CID yall talk

1490
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 7: to knee from mister Dela Gratti uh one time and

1491
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 7: just had to like wait till the round ended. I

1492
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 7: just kind of sucked it up, but I couldn't brief

1493
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 7: for probably like a minute and a half, you know.

1494
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 7: And I'm just I think I tried to hit a

1495
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 7: takedown after and got on top and just gotta waited

1496
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 7: for about twenty seconds.

1497
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. Uh, it's surprising.

1498
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 7: Anytime your organs get tickled in that manner is not

1499
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 7: a good thing. And typically it's when you least expect it, right,

1500
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 7: you breathe at the wrong time. Yeah, and that knee

1501
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 7: or that punch comes to the body and it will

1502
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 7: shut you down. It will bend you over and it's

1503
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 7: just tough to breathe. It's painful. Uh, and some guys

1504
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 7: just never recover from it. And I think raised, right,

1505
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 7: like those guys that have a good chin and you

1506
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 7: you find like you're not having success with big shots

1507
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 7: to the head, go to the body because it might

1508
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 7: surprise you.

1509
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 3: That's where they could be weak and vice versa.

1510
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 7: Right, So I think that it's a shot you rarely

1511
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 7: see in mixed mixed martial arts. For the finish like

1512
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 7: when you see a knee like that, that's precision, that

1513
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 7: is timing, and it's just a gorgeous thing to watch

1514
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 7: when you see it performed like that, it's it's amazing.

1515
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 7: It's hit in muite time more often, and MMA it's

1516
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 7: more of a rare thing. Uh, but boy, does it

1517
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 7: take a whole lot of technique to finish someone with

1518
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 7: a body shot.

1519
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: Hey, Kenny, think about it, man, think about boxing or

1520
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: even MMA. You have six ounces of padding, full rounds

1521
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: as of padding, and guys are going down. This guy

1522
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 2: is a lanky guy and if he's got one of

1523
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 2: those pointy knees, think about that. Man, he fired that

1524
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: thing in there. It was way worse than getting hit

1525
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: wood in glove. And that's why I think we saw

1526
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: the reaction that you did and the wait, what would

1527
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: a fight? What would have the bonuses? Last night?

1528
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 5: No Fight of the Night performance bonus winners Raoul Rosas, Junior,

1529
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 5: Bruno Fajeda, Zachary Reese and Carlos protests.

1530
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, because I tell you that the card did

1531
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: start off and I'm going, well, this is yeah, back back, brutal,

1532
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: and then it just went everything was knockout, knockout, really

1533
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: like highly, you know, like good knockouts.

1534
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, so uh. Perhaps the biggest key though to

1535
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 6: carlos Protests success is the pre fight dirt sticks.

1536
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: Right.

1537
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 6: He smoked cigarettes before the fight to open up his lungs,

1538
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 6: So Carlos protest. Yeah no, Hey, dude, don't laugh, man.

1539
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean.

1540
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: To each is to each his own.

1541
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 5: Nicotine is very complicated drug, but uh, I think there

1542
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 5: is something to be said for opening up those lungs.

1543
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 5: And I believe he was smoking a fucking long dart

1544
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 5: when word came down that he got the bonus as

1545
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 5: well a lung.

1546
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a lot of people are doing I

1547
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: was talking a serah, A lot of people doing those

1548
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 2: nicotine packets. I know nothing about it, but people liking

1549
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 2: the nicotine.

1550
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 5: Oh and we advertise those lucy breakers on the show.

1551
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 5: Makes a really satisfying pop when you break it between

1552
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 5: your teeth. But hey, we gotta go, Ray, What what

1553
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 5: are you drinking there? Cole brew that actually looks like

1554
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 5: a hot coffee.

1555
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: Here, I got a coffee with some protein in it.

1556
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: Wow?

1557
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 6: Absolutely, So what is the rest of your Sunday?

1558
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: Hold, I'm gonna make some breakfast when we get out

1559
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: of here and I'm going to runt to the gym.

1560
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: The gym. I got some people coming in before I go, though,

1561
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: there was another Lauren Braci. You had a big win

1562
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, al So last night I wanted to give

1563
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: her a shout out. She took the fight on last

1564
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: minute notice to fill in for somebody and she had

1565
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: a great, great fight. So shout out to Lauren too,

1566
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: big big weekend for the gym.

1567
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 6: Let's go, Lauren, Let's go.

1568
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: And I tell you it brought a tea in my

1569
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: eye to see Morob fly out there with Steve and

1570
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 2: and you know, corner Pomi. So I love it. I

1571
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: feel like this camaraderie. Yeah, that makes me. That brings

1572
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: a tea to my eye.

1573
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 5: Right and Kenny, I don't know if you notice, you know,

1574
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 5: Blah Muhammad flying to Louisville in the middle of his

1575
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 5: Lee On Edwards training camp to corner Charles Radkey.

1576
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 6: It's just the way some of these guys are wired.

1577
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I love it. I love all of

1578
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: that stuff. Man, I think it's important.

1579
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 6: All right, Ray, have a great day and a better evening, buddy,

1580
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 6: Star of the show, Ray Long go minute every week.

1581
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: Next week take it easy, guys. Enjoyed the weekend, Hey

1582
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: and pull me our best.

1583
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: I will do.

1584
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: Hi. I'm dying to talk to him today. I'd love

1585
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 2: the performance. Come on and make make the cool. Just

1586
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: do it call it no way, all right, buddy, guys, Sarah, there.

1587
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 5: He is Raymond Peter Longo, Ray Longo minute every week

1588
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 5: here on the Annik and Florian podcasts. And that's going

1589
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 5: to do it for this live edition on a Sunday.

1590
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 5: Thank you to our executive producer, Cody Merrow. Thanks to

1591
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 5: Sean Merriman LightsOut xf dot com if you want to

1592
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 5: watch their live event this Saturday, June fifteenth, and we

1593
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 5: are right back with you probably Wednesday. I am flying

1594
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 5: back to Atlanta to continue filming this movie.

1595
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 6: And uh more on that in the months to come.

1596
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 5: I have a lot of things I want to share

1597
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 5: with this fine podcast audience that I can't write now,

1598
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 5: but we will get with you maybe Wednesday, maybe Thursday.

1599
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 5: We'll have predictions and bets for UFC Fight Night Perez

1600
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 5: versus Tyra coming up from the Apex this weekend on

1601
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 5: e Plus. Also, don't forget John Annak dot com for

1602
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 5: all of your merchandise needs and Kenny Florian dot com

1603
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 5: is now revamped in Live as well. The store will

1604
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 5: be there in the not too distant future, so be

1605
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 5: sure to check that out today. Thanks to everybody for

1606
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,520
Speaker 5: listening and watching live, Tell your friends, tell your mom,

1607
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 5: and we'll talk to you later this week for Camp

1608
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 5: Flum John And until then, you'll fucking later.