1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what? 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: With my Hall of Famer dad, Tim Kirkshon, I'm his son, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: Jeff Kirkshon, and we have very exciting news. Making another 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: change on the podcast. We recently announced we're going two 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: days a week, and I guess my dad and I 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: became so complacent. We want more time with you, so 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: we are going three days a week. So traditionally, as always, 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: you'll hear us Tuesday mornings and then on Wednesdays you 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: will hear our interview. We feel as if those Tuesday episodes, 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: though great, are getting a little long, right with these 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: interviews we get with some great guests going forty five minutes, 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: we want to split it up for you to make it. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: A little dosable. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 4: And tomorrow, right, we. 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: Have Jim Beheim, Hall of Fame basketball coach Syracuse. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 5: We interviewed him last week. 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 3: We talked about basketball, of course, but mostly baseball and 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: golf and tennis and Otto the Orange. We had a 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: tremendous time with coach Beheim. That will run tomorrow. 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did that in person at Syracuse University, which 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: was so so neat. So can't wait for you to 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: hear and see that on our YouTube page at Great 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: Game or What and then Wednesday or that's Wednesday, then 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: Thursday will be another episode of Great Game or What 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: to keep you updated with. Best of all, you know 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: all the things we do Ozzie to Oral on those days. 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a set great, I'm a seam head. This week, really, 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: David Firstman came through. 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: Boy oh boy, I love that one. 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: So new changes to the podcast, but nothing that changes 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: for you other than more opportunities to hear from us 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: and to become a part of our family, which we 33 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: are very appreciative of. Now, today is a very important 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: day in baseball. 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: It is Jackie Robinson. 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: Day today, right, and Jackie Robinson, let's be clear, is 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: the most important player in baseball history. I think Babe 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: Ruth is second, but it's not a close second because 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: what Jackie Robinson did changed the game and it helped 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: change the country. The civil rights move was moved along 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: by you know, Martin Luther King more than anyone, but 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: Jackie Robinson is in the conversation because he didn't just 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: change baseball, he changed our country and the way. 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: We think about things. 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: I'll never forget talking to Frank Robinson about Jackie Robinson 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: and I said. 47 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 5: What kind of impact did he have? And he went 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: on and on, and. 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: He said, what Jackie taught us was the only way 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: to beat the hatred that we heard and felt at 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: that time was to go out there on the field 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: and beat them on the field. That's what Jackie taught us. 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: And Hank Aaron told me, he said, if it weren't 54 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: for Jackie Robinson, I don't think I would have ever 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: played in the major leagues. Now, it doesn't mean that 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: because Jackie Robinson opened it. It's that Hank Aaron watched 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: this happen and said, well, maybe I can do that someday. 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: He didn't think that, He never thought that until Jackie 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Robinson came along and broke the color barrier. And also, Jeff, 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: let's not forget what a good player he was. He 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: wasn't just a trailblazer. Okay, he was a great second baseman. 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: He was a great first baseman his first year. And 63 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure there's ever been a greater athlete to 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: play in the major leagues than Jackie Robinson when you 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: consider what he did at UCLA as a running back. 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: Not good great, He was a great basketball player. Led 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: the Pac ten in scoring. He was a tremendous golfer, 68 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: a great tennis player, and of course a Hall of 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: Fame baseball player. And Dave Anderson, the great columnists from 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: the New York Times, once told me that Jackie Robinson 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: could beat you in more ways than any player in 72 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: the history of baseball, given how fast he was hit 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: the ball, hit the ball out of the ballpark, could 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: do so many things. Defensively, I mean, he's an underrated 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: defensive second baseman. So let's not ever forget the importance 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: of Jackie Robinson on the game and what a great 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: player he was. And as you know, the Brooklyn Dodgers 78 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: traded him to the arch rival New York Giants after 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: ten years with the Dodgers, and Jackie Robinson retired instead 80 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: of going to the Giants because the Giants for the 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: hated rivals, and he said, I'm not playing for them. 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: I just spent ten years hating them. I'm not playing 83 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: for them. So another time where he stood up for 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: what he thought was right. 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson day, we have Jerry Harrison Junior who's gonna 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: join us his grandfather. He's a multi generational major league family, 87 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: the Harrisons and obviously, his brother Scott played alongside him, 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: and during the same years in the MLB, we have 89 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: his great or his grandfather played in the Negro leagues. 90 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: And then, if I have this right, was like the 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: seventh black player to play and the first ever Chicago 92 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: White Sox play. 93 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: So Jerry tells us some great Jackie Robinson stories. 94 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 5: You need to stick around to hear this. 95 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have him on a little bit later 96 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: in the show. But dad, let's hop right in to 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: the takeaways. We haven't been with our listeners since this past. 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Week, so what's going on right? 99 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: Well, all these are through Sunday because we didn't have 100 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: time to update. But the Padres are thirteen and three, 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: Jeff okay, and during that time, after the eight and start, 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: the Dodgers have lost six out of nine. Now, this 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: doesn't change anything. The Dodgers are great, nothing to worry. 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 5: About for them. 105 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: However, the Padres are really good. They've got six shutouts already. 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: Michael King on Sunday through his first career shutout, and 107 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: they shut out the Rockies three consecutive games. So it's 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: happened a bunch of times in Major League history where 109 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: a team plays it sweeps a three game series and 110 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: shuts them out in every game. But the last time 111 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: it happened was the guard Indians in twenty seventeen shut 112 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: out the Royals three games in a row, two sweep 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: a series. That's how good the Padres pitching is. And 114 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: the Padres can really score some runs, so they are 115 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: a very dangerous team. And speaking of great pitching, Cole 116 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: Reagan's had a great start for the Royals yesterday, so 117 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: he uh Sunday, so he has now had ten or 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: more strikeouts in three consecutive games. The only other Royals 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: pitcher to do that was Kevin Apier, which. 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 5: Is really saying something. 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: The Royals have been around for a long time. And 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Cole Reagan's, by the way, Jeff has a great change up, 123 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: and I wrote a story on how important the change 124 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 3: up is in today's game. And Cole Reagan's what he 125 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: can do is he can throw, you know, like ninety 126 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: seven miles an hour, but his change up is twelve 127 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: miles an hour slower than his fastball, which is wild 128 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: the optimum level if you can throw that hard and 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: then and then as they say, kill the velocity to 130 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: take twelve miles an hour off. Even though it's still 131 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: coming in at eighty five miles an hour, it looks 132 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: like it's forty five miles an hour when you've seen 133 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: ninety seven. Seth Lugo of the Royal told me, I've 134 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: never seen anybody that can throw a change up quite 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: like that when he throws his fastball that hard. And 136 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: then there's Hunter Green of the Reds, who's got a 137 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: zero point nine to eight errol. I watched his game 138 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: the other night, not it was, you know, ten days 139 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: ago against the Giants, and I watched the entire game, 140 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: and I don't know how anyone ever gets a hit 141 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: off of him. He's got secondary stuff that is filthy, 142 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: and he throws one hundred miles an hour. So there 143 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: is great, great pitching everywhere. 144 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: It's a bummer that Hunter Green didn't make it onto 145 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: your Saint Patrick's state team. 146 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we needed a short stop. 147 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, had a different game. 148 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: So we had Gary Green. Sorry about that, now that's okay, 149 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 5: all right. 150 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: A couple other things. James Wood, you know, of the Nationals, 151 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: son of my friend Kenny Wood. I'm not just saying 152 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: this because Kenny Wood is my basketball playing friend, but 153 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: James Wood has hit three home runs in two games 154 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: back to back against the Dodgers. 155 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 5: And the point here, Jeff is, you know. 156 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: He's six six, he weighs two forty, and his power 157 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: to the opposite field is remarkable. The balls he hits 158 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: to left center field, you just watch and go, how 159 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: can he do that so effortlessly? And it's because he's 160 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: such a great athlete, so he's got pull power, but 161 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: he says, I never pulled a ball for a home run. 162 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: Eventually he's gonna. 163 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: Learn, He's gonna learn how to know how to pull it, 164 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: because the power to left center is just breathday. And 165 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: speaking of power, Jung Ho Lee of the Giants on 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: Sunday hit two home runs, two three run homers in 167 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: the same game against the Yankees, and both of them 168 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: against Carlos Rodin. So rodan left hander, had never given 169 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: up two home runs in a game to left handed 170 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: hitters in his career, and then he gave up two 171 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: to the same left handed hitter, wow, in one game. 172 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: And this is why the Giants are a handful of 173 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: this year. Trust me that NL West is ridiculousually good 174 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: because the Giants can really pitch, and with Jung ho 175 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: Ley who basically missed almost all of last year. When 176 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: he's back, and now they got Willia Domson shortstop. The 177 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 3: Giants have a pretty good team. And last takeaway is 178 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: and this is important. Jeff so sho hee O Toddi's 179 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: streak of twenty nine consecutive games reaching base ended. And 180 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: that's a pretty impressive, you know, almost thirty straight games 181 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: reaching base until you realize that the major league record. 182 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: Take a guess, what do you think the major league 183 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: record is for consecutive games reaching base? 184 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: So so, Joe DiMaggio, fifty six straight game? 185 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: I know that. So it has to be more than 186 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: fifty six. 187 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna get a hit in fifty six straight games, 188 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: not while I'm alive, and maybe not while you're alive. 189 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: That's how hard that is to do. 190 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna guess hi as so now I 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: hate when people do this. You ever ever tells us, hey, 192 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: I got this for really cheap. Guess I'm not like 193 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: five bucks, like it was only twelve bucks, but now 194 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,479 Speaker 2: you were just being in So I'm gonna say. 195 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: Fifty six is the hit streaks. 196 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 5: It has to be. 197 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to say one. 198 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 5: Hundred eighty four games. Okay, all right, that's pretty good. 199 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: That is extremely Ted Williams reach base in eighty four 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: consecutive games. So as much as we talk about and 201 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm hopeless about this, Jeff like how great hitters are today? 202 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: Come on, Ted Williams, go look at those numbers. Sometimes 203 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 3: they're absolutely ridiculous. 204 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: You want to go to a couple more listener questions. So, Dad, 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: you know we do team ten every single week. You 206 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: come up with a team based upon something we already 207 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: referenced your Saint Patti's state team. 208 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: I have a couple here. 209 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: So Eric Moyer was listening to Our Day, our show 210 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: on April fourth, the four to four show, and he said, 211 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: I love the obsession Tim's obsession with four to four. 212 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: So he came up with a team of players to 213 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: wear forty four. 214 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: Oh good, are you ready? 215 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: Hank Aaron is of course the right field. 216 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Let me make sure. 217 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: Let me make sure, well, Jeff, we're not continuing this 218 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: discussion if we don't. 219 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 5: Have Hank Aaron. 220 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: Hank Aaron in the outfield. First one, listen, sorry, long list, 221 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: Let me go through it. Mike Napoli is catching Willie McCovey. 222 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: Is it first, okay, j Bell? Is it that second? 223 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 3: Wow? 224 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: That wasn't Jay Bell's primary number. 225 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: But I'll give you did say there was a couple 226 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: stretches she had to make. He has Ellie de la 227 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Cruz at third base. 228 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 5: I'm okay with that. We have to move guys around. 229 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: Orlando Caberera is a short stop on this team. Hank Aaron, 230 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: Eric Davis Reggie Jackson are the three outfielders. He notes 231 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: that he is a huge Reds fan, so we wanted 232 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: to start with Reds R starting pitchers Roy Olswalt, Jake 233 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Peevey right, David Cohene, Ken Hill right, Jesus Lozardo and 234 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: Jason Izrinhausen as the closer. 235 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: Boy, that's pretty darn good. 236 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: And then he even has a bench Paul gold Schmid, 237 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: Adam Dunn, Jordan Alvarez and Julio Rodriguez Ben slash DH 238 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: for all those guys. 239 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: How about that Jordan Alvarez doesn't even make the starting lineup, right. 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: It's a pretty good team, right, any good team. We've 241 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: done this before, Jeff and our Ossie to Oral. We 242 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: look at the best players at each number one through 243 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: fifty five, and Hank Aaron, it's the obvious choice of 244 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: forty four. But then when you look at some of 245 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: the other guys to wear these numbers, it's kind of fun. 246 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jeremy Hespen remind me if I'm wrong here. 247 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: Have we ever done the All Fish team? 248 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: Did we do the All Fish Team? 249 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: I think we have, I mean Mike Trout, Tim Salmon, 250 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: I think we have. 251 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 5: I think I have. What what does he got? We'll 252 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 5: give him? 253 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: He started with the outfield, Tim Salmon, Mike Trout, Kevin Bass. 254 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 5: We've done this. 255 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 2: First base, Gil Hodges, al Cod Myers at second, Bob 256 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: Fisher's the shortstop. 257 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: George Scales is the third base. 258 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Think it catfish hunter obviously, Jack Morris he he put 259 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: it in all caps where the fish is in it. 260 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: Rod Beck as in like a fishing rod. Robbie Ray 261 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: type of fish. Aj Pollock is our DH and the 262 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: manager is Lip Pike. 263 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: Love the podcast, guys. Okay, Jeremy, that was great. 264 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: We have corrupted an in too many here with what 265 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: we do, but it's fun and it's harmless, and it's 266 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: only happens in baseball. 267 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: As if our. 268 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: Wives couldn't put up with us as much. Imagine Jeremy 269 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: being like honey, hold on, I'm putting together an all 270 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: Fish team for Tim and Jeff Kirkchen. 271 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: We're ruining marriages across the country. 272 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 3: Dad, I'm well aware of that, so I just want 273 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: to I don't want to ruin yours with three days 274 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: a week. 275 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 5: We got to make sure Emily Kirkchen's on board. 276 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: Don't worry, and we got to make sure your wife 277 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: doesn't find out that we are going to three days 278 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: a week. 279 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: All right now, speaking of family, Jeff, Carson Kelly. 280 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 5: Did it again. 281 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 3: So we've made clear through this podcast that Carson Kelly 282 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: is not my favorite player, but it is my favorite 283 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: baseball name because my firstborn child is Kelly Kirkchen. My 284 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: firstborn grandchild is Carson Keinahan. So Carson Kelly really works. 285 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: So a couple nights ago, Carson Kelly, hitting ninth for 286 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: the Cubs, had a three for three, two homer game. 287 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 5: Out of the ninth spot. 288 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: So remember the same Carson Kelly who hit for the 289 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: cycle out of the ninth spot, the first player ever 290 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: to do that in the month of March. So he's 291 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: already done two things. So I checked with Frank at 292 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: the Elias. So he's the first number nine hitter ever 293 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: to have a two homer game and hit for the 294 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: cycle out of the ninth spot, and not just in 295 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: one season or not like prior to May like in 296 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: his career. So he's the only player in the history 297 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: of baseball in his career to have a two homer 298 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: game and a cycle out of the ninth spot. 299 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: Now, again, Jeff, the ninth spot. 300 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: For years and years and years included the pitchers, so 301 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: it's a bit speecious. 302 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Here, or included a guy who was just the quick guy, 303 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: who's not the. 304 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: Leadoff guys, so he's not hitting a lot of days. 305 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: The point is, anytime we can get Carson Kelly into 306 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: the podcast, we're gonna do that. 307 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm so tempted to buy a Chicago Cubs 308 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: jersey for my nephew Carson that has Kelly on the back, 309 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: also noting he was born in Chicago. Kelly and Mark 310 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: lived in Chicago when Carson was born, so not only 311 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: is Carson he plays. 312 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: For the Cubs. 313 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: For goodness sake, Sorry, I kind of went Jerry Seinfeld 314 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: on it. 315 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: I lost my voice at the bachelor party over the weekend. 316 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Alright, we placed for the Cubs. We're rooting for laundry 317 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: great or right. 318 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So Zach Veen of the Rocky struck out four 319 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: times out of the leadoff spot, so we're just building 320 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: on this from last week. 321 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 5: That's a sixth time this. 322 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: Year that a leadoff hitter has struck out four times 323 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: in a game. Six times and we're not even close 324 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: to May. So it happened seven times before the month 325 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: of May last year. It's the only time that's ever happened. 326 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: So we're gonna we might have ten different or ten 327 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: leadoff guys strikeout four or more times. 328 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: In a game before we even get to the month 329 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: of May. 330 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: Just saying again how prevalent the strikeout is in today's game, 331 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: in part because the stuff we see is ridiculous. And 332 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: your boy Nick Cascianos had an zero for five with 333 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: five strikeouts. So that's the fourth time this year already 334 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: and a guy's had an oh for five with five strikeouts. 335 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: It happened in twenty twenty three five times before the 336 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: month of May. It's a pretty good bet that we're 337 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: going to have at least five and maybe six guys 338 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: who go zero for five with five strikeouts in a 339 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: game before we even get to the month of. 340 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: May, which is crazy too, because we talk about how 341 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: difficult the game is. Cassianos is having a really good 342 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: start to the season. 343 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 5: Yep, it doesn't matter. 344 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter you are. 345 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 5: If certain nights you just can't, the game just beat 346 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: you because it is so difficult. 347 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: Never forget Bill Buckner and Mike Sooshia, two really good 348 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: Major leaguers. Never struck out three times in a game, 349 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: and already four different players have struck out five times. 350 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: Unbelievable. 351 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 352 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's crazy. 353 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: Also, Mike's former guest on our Shelf, Bill Buckner, came 354 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: up during our interview with Tom House. If you missed it, 355 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: Tom House is the one who caught home run seven 356 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: point fifteen that was hit by Hank Aaron to break 357 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: Baby Roop's record, and Bill Buckner was playing left field 358 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: at the time. 359 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: And Bill Buckner's first thing he asked Tom House was 360 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: can I have the ball? 361 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: Throw me the ball? 362 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: Why would I do that? 363 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: I was amused by that. Okay. 364 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: Kiden Paris hit a home run the other day, and 365 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: on the same day, Ty France hit a home run 366 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 3: Kiten Paris for the Angels. Ty France for the Twins 367 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: on the same day Paris and France hit a home run. 368 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 5: You can't miss something like that. 369 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 4: You were just dying for them to both be starting pitchers. 370 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: Of course, Ellie de la Cruz hit a Grand Slam 371 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: for the Reds on Ellie de la Cruz bubblehead Day, 372 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: which is just so and so fitting. Now I can't 373 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: even remember the teams, but it doesn't matter. But in 374 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: the eighties, I remember a game, doesn't matter where it happened. 375 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: It was umbrella Day at the ballpark. Everyone got like 376 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: an umbrella, let's call it a Cubs umbrella, and the 377 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: game got rained out of Umbrella Day. 378 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 5: So great. 379 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: That is so perfect, so perfect. 380 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: So the other night the A's, all nine starters for 381 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: the A's got exactly one hit. So, believe it or not, 382 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: it happened like three times last year. I was a 383 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 3: little surprised all nine starters got exactly one hit. But 384 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: the last time that the A's. 385 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: Did that in a game was nineteen seventy seven. Wow, 386 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: that's a long time. 387 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: It's almost fifty years. 388 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 5: Geeze. All right. 389 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: The last cork gin relates to the Bachelor's party, and 390 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: this is the biggest stretch of any quirk gin ever. 391 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: But we're gonna attempt to have a little fun with this, 392 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: so quickly tell us about the bachelor party Saturday. Where 393 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: were you? 394 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 5: Who was at four? And how did it go? 395 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: My buddy Joey, he gets married in May to his 396 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: amazing fiance Jess, who he outkicked the coverage on that one. 397 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: That's what we all did. 398 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: We all did. 399 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: Joey is close to the captain of the all over 400 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: achiever team from what I could see, Jolley love you're 401 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: You're on the list. 402 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate that he is a big Baltimore Orioles fan. 403 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: So we went to the Orioles game against the Blue Jays, 404 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: which was so much fun. We had seats right down 405 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: the third base side. It was a great time. Not 406 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: a huge crowd because it's kind of rainy and a 407 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: little overcast. But Dan, have you ever had an orange crush? 408 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: Yes, it was a long time ago, and it's non alcoholic. 409 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: I hope that's the one you're talking now. 410 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about that. 411 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: Oh well, of course you wouldn't. 412 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, this drink they served at Pickles outside of Camden Yards, 413 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: which was packed and amazing and all the years I 414 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: went to Camden Yards. 415 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: You never took me to pickles. 416 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: But that's also because I wasn't twenty one. 417 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, this is like, it's the staple 418 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: drink to have at Camden Yards before you go into 419 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: a game. It's an orange drink. It's got vodka and 420 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: it well, god, it was huge. It was big and Dan, 421 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. I drink half of one in 422 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: about an hour. 423 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: Because I'm a small guy. I look over at Joey. 424 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: Joey is six foot five, former great basketball player, great 425 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: football player, and he has about the same left in 426 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: his cup. I mean, these are big cups. So I 427 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: go to him and I say, joe it's pretty strong, right. 428 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, you know. One and a half in 429 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: and we haven't even walked into the game. He was 430 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: on his second and he was at the same spot 431 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: on the drink that I was. So I guess we'll 432 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: have to take off that credential of yours one day 433 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: and have you go try an orange crush. 434 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: YEP, this is pathetic. 435 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: But when I covered the Orioles in the eighties, they 436 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: set a record for most home runs hit in the 437 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 3: month of May. Even though the team wasn't very good 438 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: major League record, so I called them orange crush because 439 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: they were dressed in orange and they used to crush it. 440 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: So I called him the orange crush Orioles for about 441 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: a month and then the rest of the time. That's 442 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 3: pretty good, Jeff. Speaking of drinking, and again, this is 443 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: the biggest stretch of all time, I'm going to give 444 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: you the names of some of the pictures of record 445 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: from Saturday's game when you went to Camden Yards for 446 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: a bachelor's party. 447 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 5: Okay, j t gin pitch. 448 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 3: But it's spelled g I H so. Cole Sulzer also 449 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: got a decision, So I really stretched that like sulcer 450 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: and vodka. Is there such a thing as vodka with Sulzer, 451 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: Seltzer Meltzer. 452 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, white Claw, Yeah, yeah, Seltzer. 453 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: Ryan Gusto got a decision. Chase Dolander got a decision. 454 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: Chase, oh, Chaser, Yeah, I was thinking Doland Doland, Kumar 455 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: Rocker got a decision, and that's what you got. 456 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: You guys were rocking it, you know what, you young people. Yeah, 457 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: he was rocking the really cool sweatshirt. I've never used 458 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: that as a verb in my entire life. And the 459 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: last guy who got a decision on the day that 460 00:21:53,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: you celebrated Joey's bachelor party, Brian Woo A lot of that, wo, Jeff, 461 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm really worried about myself now that I would take 462 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: the time to come. 463 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: I just it just hit me. Look, we got a gin, we. 464 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: Got a gusto, we got a who all the same day, 465 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 3: the day that you were celebrating Joey Feirestein's again. 466 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing that you would look at all 467 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: those pictures of record where I think ninety five percent 468 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: of the guys I was with don't even remember who 469 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: pitched in the game we. 470 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: Were at, of course, but that's you're not supposed to 471 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: remember that. 472 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: I'm glad you got to go to a. 473 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: Big league It was a fun time. 474 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: Do you have on this state in baseball history now? 475 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: Of course, the reason we're here today is the only 476 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: thing that truly matters today, is it? In nineteen forty seven, 477 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: Jackie Robinson made his major league debut playing first base 478 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: for the Brooklyn Dodgers, and as we said earlier, and 479 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: we'll hear from Jerry Harrison a minute changed the game 480 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: completely and helped change our country. But I found it 481 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: interesting that also on April fifteen, this was in nineteen 482 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: fifty four, Hank Aaron, who he told you like, said 483 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: I would have never played in the big leagues without 484 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: Jackie Robinson. Hank Aaron got his first major league hit. 485 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: Which no on what would become Jackie Robinson Day. 486 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: Right, So, seven years to the day that Jackie Robinson 487 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: made his major league debut and broke the color line, 488 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: Hank Aaron, one of the greatest players of all time, 489 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: got his first major league hit. 490 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 5: Is that not cool or what I mean? 491 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 4: It's hard to not be romantic about baseball when it 492 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: comes to that. 493 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: And just a general reminder, Jeff, if you took away 494 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: all seven hundred and fifty five of Hank Aaron's home runs, 495 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: he would still have three thousand hits. Unbelievable, three thousand, 496 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: seven hundred and seventy one hits. So it just shows 497 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: you how great a. 498 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 5: Player Hank Aaron was. But in the end, there was 499 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 5: no greater player in. 500 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: Baseball history, given all the elements, than Jackie Robinson. 501 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: Jerry Harrison Junior joined us last year for Jackie Robinson Day, 502 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: and as I mentioned at the top, his grandfather played 503 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: in the Negro leagues and then became a major leaguer. 504 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: His dad a major leaguer, him and his brother major leaguers. 505 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: So I mean, it's a family full. 506 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: Of big leaguers. 507 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: But he talked so eloquently and beautifully about black baseball 508 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: and about being a black baseball player, following the footsteps 509 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: of Jackie Robinson, his entire family. 510 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Here's Jerry Harrison Junior. 511 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 6: You know, it was the impact on our country. And 512 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 6: you know, we always talk about black baseball, the negro leagues, 513 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 6: but this is American history. 514 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 3: You know. 515 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: Jackie Robinson when he made his Brooklyn Dodgers debut, Martin 516 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 6: Luther King really stated back then and that kind of 517 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 6: sparked the civil rights movement. They had a guy in 518 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 6: Jackie Robinson who was very articulate, extremely smart. He accomplished 519 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 6: so much prior leading up to his major league debut. Obviously, 520 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 6: he served in our military, played at ula. I believe 521 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: he starred in four different sports at you So he 522 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 6: was really accomplished. So they had the perfect guy to 523 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 6: represent the black baseball players and to break the color barrier. Yes, 524 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 6: we're there are better players, and even Jackie Robinson admitted 525 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: back then there are better players in him, but he 526 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 6: was probably the best guy for the job to break 527 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 6: through and obvious to thrive on the baseball field while 528 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 6: kind of holding his tongue when he had to, and 529 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 6: it allowed for other people of color to play eventually, 530 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 6: So Martin Luther King said, the best Jackie Robinson. Seeing 531 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 6: Jackie Robinson on that baseball field thrive allowed it really 532 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 6: kind of sparked the civil rights. 533 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: Movement, right, Jerry, your grandfather, Sam, what did he tell 534 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: you about Jackie Robinson when you were growing up. 535 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 6: You know, as a kid, we all knew about Jackie 536 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 6: Robinson the player. The one thing my grandfather always stressed was, 537 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 6: look at Jackie Robinson the person. What he represented. You know, 538 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: it was not just on the field, but off the field. 539 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 6: You got to be a person. That's one thing my 540 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 6: grandfather and my father stressed. Listen, it'd be cool to 541 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 6: be a baseball player. Of course, you want to play baseball, 542 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 6: but the most important thing is to be a good man, 543 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 6: be a good representative of your family. And obviously Jackie 544 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 6: Robinson did that, and he represented so many others. And 545 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 6: because he was successful on and off the field, it 546 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 6: allowed for so many other players to come behind him. So, 547 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 6: you know, having Jackie Robinson Day and having his number retired, 548 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 6: and I remember Kenry Fu Junior, you know, stay and 549 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 6: we should all wear forty two on that day, and 550 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 6: just just giving a little tribute to him for a 551 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 6: man who met so much for so many people. 552 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 7: And Jerry, you just brought that up. You know, all 553 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 7: the player is going to be rocking forty two. And 554 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 7: you had a great major league career. But you know 555 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 7: you're a broadcaster for the Dodgers now, but you played 556 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 7: for the Dodgers. Was it kind of like sending chills 557 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 7: up your spine when you put the forty two jersey 558 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 7: Dodgers on the front and forty two on the back. 559 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Was that kind of cool? 560 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 561 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: And I got you. 562 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 6: I had to play second base one day. I think 563 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: it was either twelve or thirteen when I was wearing 564 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 6: that Dodger blue wearing forty two and playing second base. 565 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 6: And trust me, guys, it was not lost on me. 566 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 6: I was thinking about my grandfather and just knowing the 567 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 6: players that sacrificed so much. So one thing, my grandfather, 568 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 6: who was the ninth black player to play in Major 569 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: League Baseball, was the first black player to play with 570 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 6: Chicago White Sox. It wasn't lost on me on how 571 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 6: these guys really had to kind of struggle a little 572 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: bit and grind. They had to play in so many 573 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 6: barnstorming games. They had to go play in Mexico, in Cuba, Venezuela, 574 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 6: other countries to kind of make sure they provide for 575 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 6: their family. So, you know, my grandfather and other players 576 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 6: had to do that, and you know, they definitely had 577 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: a whole lot tougher than we did. And we're so 578 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 6: appreciative for the stuff they did because they laid the 579 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 6: groundwork for many players. I would follow. 580 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: Jerry Harrison Junior always. He's a consummate professional, of course, 581 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: a part of the broadcast team with the Los Angeles Dodgers, 582 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: and his perspective. I think it's so neat that players 583 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: would ask him about experiences his family had and Jackie 584 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: Robinson and it's really really beautiful. 585 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And remember the best part of that interview is 586 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: when he said he wore number forty two as everybody 587 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: does now on Jackie Robinson Day, which is a great, 588 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: great idea by Major League Baseball. But Jerry Harrison is 589 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: playing second base for the Dodgers, wearing number forty two, 590 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: and he said, as you heard he said, that was 591 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: not lost on me. 592 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 4: Don't forget that tomorrow. So things are changing up here. 593 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: On the podcast tomorrow you'll get an interview from coach 594 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: Jim Beheim, longtime Syracuse Orange coach who is a massive 595 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: baseball fan. 596 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: Things to be listening for. 597 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 5: He talks about. 598 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan playing golf and not playing golf very well. 599 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: Talks about Kobe Bryant sent chills down my spine talking 600 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: about Kobe, and of course we went a lot into 601 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: the game of baseball. His love of the New York 602 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: Yankees currently but a team you wouldn't expect that he 603 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: loved growing up. Coach Jim Beheim joins the show tomorrow. 604 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening and as always, thank 605 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: you for being a part of our family.