1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with IUR Radio. Hey everybody, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: this is Trista and you're listening to the almost famous 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: OG podcast where Bob and I, who unfortunately can't be 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: here today. And if he can, it'll be a surprise 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and a very welcome one. Anyway, I wanted to intro 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: our guest today without Bob in the hopes that he 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: can come, that he can join us. But I'm so 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: excited to welcome Jordan Weaver to the podcast. She is 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: one of my fellow recruits on season three of Special 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Forces World's Toughest Test, and she of course is one 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: of the Fierce Five from the twenty twelve Summer Olympic 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Games in London. She is a champion, really truly by 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: all meanings of the word, like she was an individual 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: champion in gymnastics prior to winning the gold medal in 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: London with her Fears five, and she retired from competitive 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: gymnastics in twenty fifteen transitioned to coaching where she coaches 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: the University of Arkansas. And I know that is such 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: a sense of pride for her in talking to her 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: and asking her about what she's doing now. I just 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: remember her being so proud that this is what she's doing. 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: And you can tell that she now has this family 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: with the University of Arkansas girls and probably boys in 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: their world of gymnastics, and I just love her. She 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: is amazing. She's so down to earth, so sweet, so kind, 25 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and we definitely bonded. We were connected linked up on 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the beach during surf torture, and I don't even know 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: if that's what's what it technically is called, but to me, 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: it's surf torture. It with the buds training on the beach, 29 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: we were linked together and I just, along with all 30 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: of my other recruits, just love Jordan so much. So 31 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to welcome her to the podcast today. Okay, everybody, 32 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm so excited Jordan's here with me today and I'm 33 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: just so excited to chat about our time together on 34 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Special Forces and then time, you know, outside of the 35 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: show and normal life. So welcome to the podcast, Jordan. 36 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: For having me. It's so good to see you again. 37 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 2: You too. 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I love that we get to see each other live. Okay, 39 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: so first things first, you you shocked all of us 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: at the table at the reunion by telling us that 41 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: you were pregnant how is it going. 42 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: Good? 43 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: It's so funny because I was pretty like early on still, 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: but I'm like, for some reason, I just feel inclined 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: to tell all these people that I'm pregnant right now, 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: because you know, it was one of those things like 47 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: we only had a few days together, but I felt 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: like we all just like weirdly bonded by doing hard things. 49 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: To other yep. 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: So I just felt like telling everyone, and I'm glad 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: I did. It was really fun and I'm feeling good. 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: I'm nineteen weeks now, so everything has been smooth sailing 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: so far. 54 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Amazing. I mean, I couldn't could not start with that 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: because I'm just so happy, so happy for you. Okay, 56 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: so Special Forces, how were you asked? And what was 57 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: your first thought when they asked you? 58 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they reached out to my agent, and my 59 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: agent presented the opportunity to me, and at first I 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: was like. 61 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: Oh, holy crap. I don't know. 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: I kind of went back and forth a few times, 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: but I had watched the first couple of seasons because 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: season one, Nasty Lucan was on it, who was also 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: an Olympic gymnast, and I know her and I remember 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: watching it because she was on it and just thinking 67 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: to myself, Okay, if there's ever like a reality show 68 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: that I would do, Like, I just love the meaning 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: behind this one and kind of like the whole vibe 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: of bit vibe of it. So so I just contemplated 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: it for a couple of weeks and ended up saying yes, 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: And like, the filming was short enough, like for my 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: own job at home, and it just was perfect timing, 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: and I thought, like, you know what, we got to 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: keep challenging ourselves in life and putting ourselves, you know, 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: in different places out of our comfort zone. 77 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: So that's really why I said yes, And it was 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: it was definitely an interesting experience. 79 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure. 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: I'm sure you feel the same way. 81 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Interesting. Yes. I just actually got to chat with Rudy 82 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: and Billy, and I have to say, I wish you 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: know how they do the psychologists. The psychologists. They have 84 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: a show psychologist for everyone listening, and they check in 85 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: with you like you do a whole kind of like 86 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: an exam with them prior to the show, and then 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: after the show we get the chance to talk to 88 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: the psychologist and then she follows up with you, I 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: think a couple times after that, and it's very nice 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: to talk to the psychologist obviously she's a professional or 91 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: he you know, either or but talking to Billy and Rudy, 92 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I really felt like it was it was like it 93 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: gave me a little bit of closure. And I wish 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: for all everybody, the recruits on the show that everyone 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: could get that and actually like see them smiling and like, 96 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, like laughing together. We were laughing and you know, 97 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: just putting that human touch on it. It was very interesting, 98 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: an interesting show, and I love that you had watched 99 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: it prior and we're actually like, you know, saying that 100 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: this is the one reality show that probably you would 101 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: sign up for. And then of course things happened on 102 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: the show, being that it's in water. Did you ever 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: have anxiety or issues with water prior to doing the show. 104 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: No, not really, I think, but you know, after reflecting 105 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: on it, it's like I just have never really done 106 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: anything in the water, Like I've never been challenged to 107 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: do anything other than like swimming in the pool with 108 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: my friends. 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: And you know, like I was a kid when I. 110 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: Was little that jumped it, plugging my nose, Like I 111 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: just I was never really like super strong in the water, 112 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: but I never really had issues, like I could swim, 113 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: and I think, you know, that first night, what we 114 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 3: did in the beehive like really did something to my 115 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: brain and kind of like ignited this this fear element. 116 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 3: And it wasn't really like I don't I'm not actually 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: scared of the water. It was like a physiological response 118 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: that I was having, like in my body, you know, 119 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: on every water challenge after that. So it was it 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: was interesting, and you know, people are like, well, would 121 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: you go back and do the sinking boat now? 122 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, probably not. I don't think so. I don't know. 123 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: It's just I don't really even know where the fear 124 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 2: came from. It just it just kind. 125 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: Of was there during the filming and it definitely like 126 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: surprised me a lot, but it was like part mental, 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: part physiological and hard to explain for sure. 128 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel like also the beehive is just 129 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: really freaking stressful and they didn't show a lot of it, 130 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: so I feel like you don't truly get a sense 131 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: of what happened during that task unless you were there. 132 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Of course, that's with everything in life, right, but you know, 133 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: we're setting the stage for people who are listening. It's 134 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: this big like outdoor or above ground pool essentially, like 135 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I think it's ten feet deep, and they just tell 136 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: you to jump in. Q is in the middle on 137 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: this pool noodle like yelling at everyone and splashing you 138 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: in the face. And you have giant guys like Cam 139 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Newton and Goldent Tate who are not happy with the 140 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: water and they are going under and they're like everyone's 141 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: kicking and flailing and trying to tread water, but we're 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: all being told to get closer and closer and closer 143 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: towards the center, toward Q. Meanwhile people are going under. 144 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: You're kicking people. I think Christy's boot fell off like 145 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: it was kaos and they're splashing you in the face 146 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: to make it seem like, you know, you're out in 147 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: open water. So it was really stressful. Was there a 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: moment that you reflect back on and think that's kind 149 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: of when it started, Like did Cam grab onto you 150 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: or Nathan? Obviously not Nathan because he's an Olympic swimmer, 151 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: but you know, was there a moment where you were 152 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: like you remember exactly when you were like, holy crap, 153 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: this is intense and I my physiologically cannot handle it. 154 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: I mean I remember like treading water at first, thinking okay, 156 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 3: like just stay. 157 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: Calm, like you know, a lot of people did even 158 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: realize we had our boots on, which was probably the 159 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: hardest part. 160 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: About that, Like your boots fell, and then people are 161 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: kind of grabbing onto you when they start panicking, and 162 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: then you did the same because like your survival instinct 163 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: just kicks in. And so initially when I felt like, okay, 164 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm starting to go under, I swam to the side, 165 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: and then of course they're yelling at. 166 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: You to go back in the middle, and so I 167 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: was kind. 168 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: Of I was trying really hard to go back out 169 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: in the middle, and at one point I did, and 170 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: like I remember starting to like not feel my arms, 171 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: like my arm's went um and then then I went under. 172 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: I feel like in the show I heard someone say 173 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: like she's going under, and like, I'm pretty sure that 174 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: was me, and so I went I fully went under, 175 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: couldn't get up, and I finally got my head out 176 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: and I just reached my arm out and I think 177 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: Cam grabbed it and pulled because he was on the side. 178 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 3: He pulled me over the side, and so that was 179 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: probably like the scariest moment was like I am fully 180 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: going to drown right now, and I somehow got my 181 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: head up and reached my arm out like someone better 182 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: grab my arm or I'm gonna drown. 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: I just got chills. I just got chills because I 184 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: can't imagine, like I've had a panic attack before, but 185 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: that was on solid ground, sitting on a couch, you know, 186 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: like just being stressed out, So I can't even imagine 187 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: having that panic attack. Because we ended up like next 188 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: to each other on the side of the pool. Once 189 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: I came to the side and you could not breathe, 190 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: like you were in the midst of panicking, which you know, 191 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: just compounds cause you're not breathing, and then the DS 192 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: is yelling at you and you see other people are 193 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: going through this and you're like, I almost drowned. So 194 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: it's like probably just building up in your head. How 195 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Like when I was I was trying to like help 196 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: you and Kyla, I think, were on either side of me, 197 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: and she was having a really hard time too, and 198 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, just try to breathe, to try to breathe 199 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: in those moments. Are you the kind of person that 200 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: is like, thank you for trying to help me through 201 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: or you're like, shut up, Trista, I don't need to 202 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: be dad with you right now. 203 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: Well I can tell you, like after the fact that 204 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for that because we were just all 205 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: trying to survive that together. 206 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: But like in the moment, I don't even know if 207 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: I knew what was going on around me. 208 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: Like I just like the only thing I could think 209 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: about was like, just try to calm your breathing down 210 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: and then try to get back in there, because you know, 211 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: like the DS like they're, yes they are, it's it's television, 212 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: and you know, they're they're putting on this show in 213 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: a lot of ways, but like they're scary and you know, 214 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: and they're saying get back out there, Like I wanted 215 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: to do that for because they were asking me. 216 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: To, and so I don't know if I knew what 217 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: was going on around around me. 218 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: A lot, I was just like, Okay, just get your breath, 219 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: control your breath so you can go back out. 220 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: But it was it just got hard and harder each time. 221 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: I felt like I was going in and out of 222 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: the pool. So it was it was crazy. 223 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: It was crazy. Yeah, yeah, no, I feel like Hindsight's 224 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, right, Yeah, I'm well, I guess I was 225 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: super grateful for like Cam and Golden for like holding 226 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: my you know, packs and carrying them, for carrying it 227 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: for me. Even the moment when we were at the bridge, 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: And I didn't remember this, but I think it was 229 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: when we first got there, we had just finished running 230 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: and you were like rubbing my back like it's okay, 231 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: You're You're gonna be okay. I can't remember exactly what 232 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: you said, and I was like, oh, like we really 233 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: truly were. I feel like our cast was was really 234 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: truly there for each other. Do you do you feel 235 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: that I do? 236 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just I think, you know, having felt 237 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: this being on other teams before, like when it doesn't 238 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: really matter how long you're you've known somebody or you're 239 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: with somebody, like when you do hard things together, it 240 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: just bonds you in a different way. I think that 241 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: was really true about our group. And I really do 242 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: feel like the mix of personalities was so great. Everybody 243 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: was so just awesome, and I feel like you just 244 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: never know with people coming from different Wars worlds and 245 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: having different reasons for going on TV, so we just 246 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: got so lucky with a good cast, and I think 247 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: really everybody was in it together. 248 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. Okay, So I left prior to the submersion task, 249 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: which was when you ended up leaving. Actually, I want 250 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: to go back to the beach. So we're at the beach. 251 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: We were linked up and again I was connected with you, 252 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: and Kyla was on were on either side of me, 253 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, it was it was like we were drowning 254 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: ourselves essentially. And I can't even imagine. You know, you 255 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: went up and you and you spoke to Q and 256 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: I think he no, maybe it wasn't Q. 257 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: Maybe I think it was Foxy. 258 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: It was Foxy. Never mind, it was Foxy. Okay, So funny, 259 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: funny story. I'm sitting on the couch with my husband 260 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: watching and Foxy says, Okay, calm down. And Ryan is 261 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: my husband's a firefighter and you know, an EMT, and 262 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: he was like, they tell you that if someone's panicking 263 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: or you know, having a really hard time, the thing 264 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: that you don't say to them is calm down. 265 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: It might be different in the military. Okay. 266 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: It was just so funny. He was like, I don't 267 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: know that that's going to get her to calm down. 268 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: But you know, maybe it's just because it's him and 269 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: you know we're going to listen to the DS. I 270 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: just thought that was that was kind of funny when 271 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: he pointed that out. And and I give it up 272 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: to you because you got past that, You got past 273 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: your panic and you were again legit having a panic 274 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: attack to where you were like like you could not breathe, 275 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: so and when you're not able to breathe as an asthmatic, 276 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: it takes over everything. You cannot think of anything else, 277 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: you know. So I have to give it up to 278 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: you on the beach for getting past that because it 279 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: was really difficult even without having this like physiological reaction 280 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: to the water, right, yeah, okay, and then the next 281 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: day you have the submersion activity. Take me through what 282 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: you were feeling when you got there and you knew 283 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: that that's what was going on up until you ended 284 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: up leaving. 285 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, having watched the first two seasons before, 286 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: like they did the submersion thing in both seasons, so 287 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: I kind of knew it was coming. And like even 288 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: before going on the show was like Okay, I I 289 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: don't even know how to open my eyes under the water, 290 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: Like I need to learn how to do that. I 291 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: was like sticking my head in the bathtub at home, 292 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: like opening my eyes, like just trying to do something 293 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: to prepare. 294 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: You know. 295 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: It's like I'm an athlete, and I want to train 296 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: as much as possible, but I had such a short 297 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: window from when I agreed to do the show told me. 298 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: I laughed it like I just did what I could. 299 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: Anyway, we that morning, like we pulled up to the 300 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: like the whatever, the marina, I don't know what you'd 301 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: call it, but where we were going, and I saw 302 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: the crane and I was like, this is the subversion one, 303 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: and like, you know, I think mentally I was prepared 304 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: to do something like that, but then having the two 305 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: days before that I had had just you know, struggling 306 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: with the water. I think I was like, I don't know, 307 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: this might be beyond my limit. 308 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: And I really I watched everybody else do it. 309 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: Before me, and I remember think going back and forth 310 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: like literally five hundred times, like I'm gonna do it, 311 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do it, not gonna do it. 312 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't like I can. 313 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: I went back and forth, like fully deciding either way, 314 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: and it really came down to. I felt like my 315 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: options were either leave and quit and have to deal 316 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: with you know what that felt like for me, or 317 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: try it and probably panic again. And I was really 318 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: scared of the panic. I don't know how else to 319 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: explain it. Like I think for anyone who's had a 320 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: panic attack before, like it's you almost fear the panic 321 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: more than like the actual thing that you have to do. 322 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: And so that's kind of where I was, And I 323 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: just kind of thought to myself, like, maybe you know, 324 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: I I don't think there's I don't think the water 325 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: stuff is gonna get any easier after that. I didn't know, 326 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: because I just I don't like quitting. And I've always 327 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: considered myself a really resilient person, especially mentally, but I 328 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: just didn't feel like it didn't feel right for me 329 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: to do it and to go under that into that 330 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: boat and not be able to open my eyes and sinking, 331 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: and I don't know, I just didn't feel right. So 332 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: it was it was really tough, but ended up just 333 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: deciding to leave. 334 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Nathan, of course, is trying to give you a pep 335 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: talk before you're going. Did he almost convince you? Were 336 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: you close to him convincing you did that help at all? 337 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was just being so encouraging, and 338 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: you know, coming from an Olympic swimmer, like obviously he 339 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: knows a thing or. 340 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: Two with water, and so yeah, listen to what he 341 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: was saying. 342 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: And he just mostly was telling me, like, you know, 343 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: you don't want to look back and regret that you 344 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: didn't try, and you're you're not a quitter, and you know, 345 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: just kind of giving me some tips. 346 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: But and I really was encouraged by it. 347 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: Like I said, I went back and forth like a 348 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: million times, Like for a while, I was decided, I'm 349 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: going to do it. 350 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to try and and it was just hard. 351 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: Even Kayla was trying to just encourage me, and because 352 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: she had already done it at that point, she had 353 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: already gone in and tried and and so it was 354 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: I just appreciate the two of them so much, especially 355 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: Nathan just. 356 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: Trying to encourage me. 357 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I don't know, it just it was 358 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: a battle I was kind of dealing with within myself 359 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: for sure. 360 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a hard one. I don't know how I 361 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: would have reacted. Part of me, you know, when I 362 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: left that morning, when we woke up to the gunshots 363 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: and the barrel or whatever where you want to call it. 364 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: And after the night I had the night before with 365 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: the hypothermia and the mirror room interview and getting to 366 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: talk to them and them telling me it's just it's 367 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: going to keep getting harder. It's going to keep getting harder, 368 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: and they validated that, they saw that I was one 369 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: hundred percent. And then just thinking about how I felt 370 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: like a burden with like people helping, you know, carry 371 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: whether it was carrying my pack or whatever. I just 372 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: I hate feeling like a burden. And so I had 373 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: this piece come over me and was like, you know what, 374 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: you've gained so much out of this experience in just 375 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: the short time that you were here. It's okay. But 376 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: coming home I feel like maybe it's a little bit 377 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: of fomo and thinking I really truly wanted to make 378 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: it to the end. You know, you sign up for 379 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: the show hoping that you're going to make it to 380 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: the end, but I do. I do have to say 381 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: I have a little bit of regret that I didn't 382 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: stay and just push through and get the opportunity to 383 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: do this submersion or at least try and who knows 384 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: the fighting. I mean, you know, you go back and 385 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: forth and you're like, well, I could have broken my face, 386 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: I could have drown, you know, all of these things. 387 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: But are you do you have any regret? Like at 388 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: night when you're thinking about it. A lot of times 389 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: I'll just be laying in bed being like, oh, I 390 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: wish I would have stayed, or just replaying it in 391 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: my mind. How is your how is your mind with 392 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: how you left? And are you feeling any regret? 393 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: I mostly feel like confident in my decision for the 394 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: most part. I mean there's a small part of me 395 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: that I watch like certain things that are doing now, 396 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 3: like after I left, Like definitely not the fighting. I 397 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: don't know if I could have done that, but like 398 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: certain things I see them doing, I'm like, Okay, I 399 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: feel like I could have really done well at that, 400 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: or you know, I wish I had stayed and pushed 401 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: myself a little bit harder. 402 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: And I do have thoughts like that. 403 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll continue to feel that way, like watching 404 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: the rest of the episodes, But at the end of 405 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: the day, I think, like, looking back, I try not 406 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: to regret it too much because like it was an 407 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: experience that I was having at that time, and it's 408 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 3: what felt right at that time. I learned something from it, 409 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: and you know, I still don't feel passionate I need 410 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: to do anything in the water like I just don't. 411 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: Feel that way. 412 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: And I keep thinking like if it was anything but water, like, 413 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: I would have stayed and continued to literally I would 414 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: do anything, like tell me to jump off that bridge, 415 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: I'll do it, you know, tell me to do whatever, 416 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: anything physical, I'll do it. And now I'm like, if 417 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: it didn't have the water stuff, I would I would 418 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: have stayed, you know, like I would have done anything 419 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 3: pretty much. 420 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: So I do have a little bit, but like not 421 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: with the water stuff, I. 422 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Would say yes, yeah, yeah, totally hear that. Would you 423 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: do it again? If they asked the show just in general, 424 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: h I don't know, if it didn't involve water, yes, yes. 425 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: I need it. Yes, I totally would. 426 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: And I've told my husband too, because my husband was 427 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: an Olympic gymnast as well on in men's gymnastics. He 428 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: would do so well on the show if it wasn't 429 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: for like the running. His ankles are really bad, but 430 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: like everything else, like he has. 431 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Like that mind for it. So I see him do 432 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: it than me do it again. 433 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Same same. I am totally the same. When they asked 434 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: me to do it, I was like, aren't you sure 435 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: you want my husband? He's really good at this stuff, 436 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: Like he would thrive, he would love this. So I 437 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: keep telling them, please have Ryan on the show next season, 438 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: Please have Ryan. So I think they should do because 439 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: Christy has said the same thing. I know so many 440 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: people have said the same thing. They should have a 441 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: show with all of the you know, partners of the 442 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: people who have been on it, right, or like a 443 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: couple's version. Although I don't know, I don't know if 444 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: I could have. I feel like if my husband was there, 445 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: I probably would have just like, you know, curled into 446 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: a little ball with him being there and just you know, 447 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: left earlier, you know for sure. Yeah, okay, So pivot 448 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: to gymnastics and now you are the coach of the 449 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: University of Arkansas right gymnastics team. How has that been 450 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: in comparing your Olympic career to being a coach, Yeah. 451 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: It's very different, Like being a competitor yourself for versus 452 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 3: you know, leading a group of people to do what 453 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: you did. 454 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: It's it's completely different. 455 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: And I joke all the time that like the things 456 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: that worked for me as an athlete might work for 457 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: one out of the twenty people on my team, you know, 458 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 3: And so I've really like that's been my coaching journey, 459 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: is just understanding people and human behaviors and why people 460 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: think and react and behave the way they do, and 461 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: then after that, motivating them to reach a common goal 462 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: and getting a group of people to come together. It's 463 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: what I'm passionate about now, and I love it like 464 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: I love the sport of gymnastics, but even more than that, 465 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 3: I just really love impacting the lives of my student athletes. 466 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: Like they're in that age range eighteen to twenty two, 467 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: and college is one of the most transformative times in 468 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: anyone's life. 469 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: You just thought about yourself. 470 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: You're away from your parents for the first time, so 471 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: getting to be a mentor and a leader for them 472 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 3: during those years is such a big passion of mine. 473 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: So I love what I get to do every day. 474 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that, And now you'll get 475 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: to be that for your own baby soon. Okay, So 476 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: you faced a lot of highs and lows as a gymnast. 477 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: What kept you motivated to keep going and push your 478 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: body to these limits that I'm sure you had to 479 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: push your body too, and your mind. 480 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: Actually yeah, yeah, I mean for me, like I did 481 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: gymnastics from age four, made us the Olympics when I 482 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: was seventeen, So you know, I was pretty young during 483 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: those years, and I very much in my mind, like 484 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: felt like an adult during that time because I was 485 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 3: doing I was basically working a full time if not 486 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: more job. Yeah, train in gymnastics to a day practices 487 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: on top of school, on everything. 488 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: And what kept me motivated. 489 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: Was just having this big goal, like I wanted to 490 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: be an Olympian. I wanted to compete for Team USA, 491 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: and that was always in the back of my mind, 492 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: and I knew I had what it took to get there. 493 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: It was just a matter of taking it one day 494 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: at a time and taking the right steps to get there. 495 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 3: So having that goal was what motivated me. Because there 496 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: were a lot of hard days. There was a lot 497 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: of injuries, and you know a lot of things that 498 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: were happening sort of behind the scenes, you know in 499 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: my life that you know a lot of people just 500 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: didn't know about. 501 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: At the time. 502 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: And what motivated me was like I had that goal 503 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: and I wanted it so bad and I was going 504 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: to make it happen, and it's a lot of work 505 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: to just you know, quit easily. So that's what kept 506 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: me going on those hard days and talk to us 507 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: about the Fierce Five. Obviously, you came out with a 508 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: gold medal and you all had to come together to 509 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: get that done right, But there had to be moments 510 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 3: like I mean, please, uh, you know, it's hard to 511 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: get a group of people together without having like competition 512 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: amongst yourselves and you know, different personalities. 513 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: Was there were there difficulties in dealing with the with 514 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: the Fierce Five or did you all just you bonded 515 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: instantaneously and you just made it work and came together 516 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: and you were instantaneous friends. Yeah, Like what was the 517 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: behind the scenes? Like? 518 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's interesting because we all lived in 519 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: different parts of the country and I was from Michigan, 520 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: Alley was from Boston. McHale's from California, So we all 521 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: lived in different places, we had our different coaches, and 522 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: then once a month, for years and years and years, 523 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: we've come together for these training camps, and so we 524 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: would spend these five days together at these training camps 525 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: where you know, similar to what I was talking about 526 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: in Special Forces, like you're you're doing really hard things 527 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: together and going experiences like that just connects and bond 528 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: you in a different way than a lot of people 529 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: ever experience in their life. 530 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: And so then when the Olympics. 531 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: Came around, we went to a training camp. After we 532 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: made the team, we went to a training camp for 533 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: about ten days and then we went to London. So 534 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: we weren't used to being with each other every single 535 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: day in training. We all trained separately and then came 536 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: together for these competitions. 537 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: And then when we were in. 538 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 3: London, you know, I mean, we were all just It's 539 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: interesting in gymnastics because in the team competition, you have 540 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: to be teammates, and then it could be the very 541 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: next day where you're competing in say the all around 542 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: or an event final, where like your teammate is your 543 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: competitor and fors Like I mean, the US is the 544 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: most dominant when it comes to gymnastics typically, so your 545 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: biggest competitors are the other American girls. But we never 546 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: had any of any drama. We never had any competitiveness 547 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: to the point where we were caddy with each other 548 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: like we were sixteen, seeventeen years old. We just we 549 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: were just girls, you know, and we were we were 550 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: competitive and tough, but at the end of the day, 551 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: like we were, we were friends and teammates and we 552 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: just wanted each other to succeed. And I think that's 553 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: what helped us go out and win that gold medal 554 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: as a group, because it really it took every single 555 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: one of us to make that happen. 556 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: I love that. I love it. Are you in touch 557 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: with them still? 558 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 559 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: So actually, one of my teammates, Kyla, she is my 560 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: assistant coach here at Arkansas, so she's too honest and 561 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: we work together every day, which is amazing. And then Alie. 562 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: Raised been We see her quite frequently. 563 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: I mean now she's she's doing some commentating for NC 564 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: double A Gymnastics, So like a couple of weeks ago 565 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: she was commentating one of the meets we were competing in, 566 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: which is fun because it feels like, you know, our 567 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: worlds are colliding again. And then you know Mikayla, Like, 568 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: I don't see her often, but I got to see 569 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: her last year when Kyla got married, she came to 570 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: her weddings. We had a little mini reunion and so 571 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: every now and then we get to see each other. 572 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: We still haven't gotten like all five of us together 573 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: in the same. 574 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: Room, I think, since the Olympics, So we need to 575 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: make that happen at some point for sure. 576 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: How is it watching the Olympics now, Like, what did 577 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: you do this year when they are I guess this 578 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: past summer? It was on this past summer? Yeah? Right, 579 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: am I making that up right? 580 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: You're right? 581 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh, so what did you do when you watched? Did 582 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: you have like a big watch party or do you 583 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: get together with your gymnast at Arkansas? Or how do 584 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: you watch? I think it'd probably be so fun to 585 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: like cheer on the next the next generation. 586 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know I mentioned this when my 587 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: husband was an Olympian as well, in the Reo Olympics. 588 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: And then I have Kyla here, she's one of my 589 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: best friends, so we all watch it together and. 590 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: It's just it's it's fun now to just be a fan. 591 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: You know. 592 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: Obviously when you're in it, you're in it, and then 593 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: the one Olympics, right after you compete, you have this 594 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: really weird feeling when you're watching it, like. 595 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: Should I retired? Like should I kept going? 596 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: Like I really want to be there, and then the 597 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: further you get out, the more you're like, this is amazing. 598 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: I can't even believe I did this at one point, 599 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: and you just get to be a fan. 600 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: And that's really like the phase that I'm in now, 601 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: which is so fun. 602 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: So I love watching Olympics and Team USA is always 603 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: so dominant, especially gymnastics, so it makes it really really 604 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: fun to watch. 605 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: Really exciting and such a sense of pride right that 606 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: you get to be part of that family. I can 607 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: only imagine. Yes, what's the most important lesson that you 608 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: learned during your time on Team USA? And did you 609 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: utilize that when you went to Special Forces? 610 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 611 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: I mean I feel like everything about who I am 612 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: now is somehow related to gymnastics because it just was. 613 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: It was my whole life growing up, and I learned 614 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: so many life lessons, I mean, hard work and discipline 615 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: and confidence, like I gained all of those things through gymnastics. 616 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is how to be resilient. 617 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: And I always say, like having the ability to flex 618 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: my resilience muscle, Like, you know, we have all these 619 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: muscles in our body, and you know, the more you 620 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: work out a muscle and break it down, it continues 621 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: to rebuild and it's stronger than it was before. And 622 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: I feel like we all have that resilience muscle inside 623 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: of us, and you know, the more things we go 624 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: through we have that opportunity to flex, that muscle gets 625 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: stronger and stronger, and so I feel like my resilience 626 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: muscle got broken down a lot through gymnastics, and it 627 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 3: got really strong through gymnastics. So I feel like resilience is, 628 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: you know, one of the biggest things I gained from 629 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: from the sport in general. Definitely felt like I tried 630 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: to take that into Special Forces. 631 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: It was very different than gymnastics. 632 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: You know, a lot more like condensed physicality some you know, 633 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: some different elements like water and things like that. But 634 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: I definitely felt like, you know, each day we had 635 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: to keep keep going and just it was like endless 636 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: how many challenges we'd have to do that day and 637 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 3: the amount of physical stuff and those backpacks. 638 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: So I definitely feel like I had to bring that 639 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: into Special Forces. 640 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you have to have some sense of 641 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: resilience to get in there if you, as as the 642 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: DS call it in interviews they've done afterwards, are there 643 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: for the right reasons, essentially, you know, if you came 644 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: to actually be a part of it and try to 645 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: get as much out of it as you can. I 646 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: feel like I'm very much a perfectionist, and I assume 647 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: you are too. Being an Olympic gymnast, you have to 648 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: try to attain that all those tends. You know, perfect 649 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: scores constantly. What's your most valuable piece of advice for 650 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: people who are have that little perfectionist bone in them? 651 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: And how to overcome, you know, difficulties like special forces 652 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: or like your panic attacks or even just having didn't 653 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: you have a broken leg when you were competing at 654 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Yeah, I mean, I mean, so how do 655 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: what's your most valuable piece of advice for those people 656 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: who who want to be perfect, who have that pressure 657 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: to be perfect and getting through that yeah, or getting 658 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: through hard times? 659 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 660 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: This It resonates a lot because I have a team 661 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: of nineteen student athletes that just want to be perfect 662 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: all the. 663 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: Time, and I tell them constantly. 664 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: Like perfection does not exist, Like you might be able 665 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: to score ten in gymnastics, but you know, as a coach, 666 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: I can watch a routinea scores a ten, and you 667 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: can find imperfections in it. It's it's really just about 668 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: the illusion of perfection, right in gymnastics, and so perfection 669 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: is a thing as much as we want it, and 670 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: so I try to I try to get them to 671 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: focus on a couple things. First thing is like, as 672 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 3: an athlete or even as a human being, if you 673 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: can just focus on getting one percent better at whatever 674 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 3: it is that you're doing, be one percent better at 675 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 3: it than you were yesterday, and then the next day 676 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: you focus on good thing one percent better. From there, 677 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 3: you're going to experience such massive growth and even in 678 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: a short period of time, but it's not going to 679 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: seem so overwhelming, and you don't have to have it 680 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 3: all figured out one day, so you know, you can 681 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 3: kind of guess what that looks like in the gym. 682 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: But even as a person, if you have a goal, 683 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 3: get one percent that goal each day. 684 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: That helps them a lot. 685 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: And then the other thing I really stress, and my 686 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: huge advice for people in general, is like make sure 687 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: that you know what your definition of success is. You know, 688 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you're striving to do in life, 689 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: whether it be athletics or you know, some other career, 690 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: field that you're in, like or parenting, even, like. 691 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: What what does success look like in that area for you? 692 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: And then make sure that when you finish your day 693 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: and you let your head down to go to sleep, 694 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: you evaluate yourself based on your definition of success, not 695 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: on perfection, not on somebody who's who's the. 696 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: Very best at that thing. 697 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: You know, you're evaluating yourself based on what is going 698 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 3: to make me feel successful at the end of the day. 699 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 3: And you know, for me, like, success is not necessarily 700 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 3: whether or not I achieved a goal. It's about did 701 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: I give it one hundred percent of what I had 702 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: to give? 703 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: Did I give it my all and be the best 704 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: I could possibly be? 705 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: That is the feeling of success that I get at 706 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 3: the end of the day. And as long as I'm 707 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: refocusing on that constantly, like that really helps me. So 708 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: for perfectionists, like perfection is not attainable, it's more like, 709 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: what what does success feel like to you? And a 710 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: lot of times it's not actually being perfect, it's it's 711 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 3: just different than that. 712 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: So that would be my advice. 713 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: That's a amazing advice. I love the one percent Just 714 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: try to be one percent better. That is oh so good. Jordan. 715 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: So good. Okay, where do you keep your gold medal? 716 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: Right now? 717 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: It's in a safe in my house. No, we're exciting, No, 718 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: we're exciting for sure. I'm not like the type of 719 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 3: person I keep it on display. I I don't play 720 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: how very often. It's it's just in a box in 721 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: a safe. 722 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: After the Olympics, did you just wear it around even 723 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom or what. I can't imagine 724 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: that I would actually take it off, like I would 725 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: just leave it on all the time. 726 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: Well, okay, they're shockingly heavy, like that's the thing that 727 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: we were like, whoa, these things are like they kind 728 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: of hurt after when you wear it for a long time. 729 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: But when we were in London after we won the 730 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: team gold, we all like slept with it under our pillows. 731 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of cute. That is so cute. 732 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to come and steal it. 733 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but yeah, we definitely, like, I mean, 734 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: at first we were carring it around to appearances and 735 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: traveling with it and everything, and then after a while 736 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: you're like, okay, I can just put it in this 737 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: box and yeah. 738 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: I love that. That is so cute. Okay, So on 739 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: Special Forces. I was really moved by the Mirror Room interviews, 740 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's part of what I wanted 741 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: to get to, was the Mirror Room, just so you 742 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: have that connection with the DS. Your Mirror Room was. 743 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was hard for you to watch, 744 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: but it is just hearing about people's true truths and 745 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: who they are at the core, what they struggle with, 746 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: the things that have been in the press, all those 747 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of things. You shared about how you were part 748 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 1: of the biggest sexual abuse case in sport in history 749 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: of sport, which that alone is just just massive. Of course, regardless, 750 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, you went through this really really difficult time. 751 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: I am interested to know if you're okay sharing how 752 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: the response has been from sharing that on Special Forces. 753 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, it's it's a story that I 754 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: have been passionate about telling, Like even before Special Forces, 755 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 3: you know, like going through that experience, I wasn't really 756 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 3: I didn't talk about it for a long long time 757 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 3: until the case really came to light and accountability was 758 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 3: starting to happen, and I sort of had this overwhelming 759 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: feeling of like responsibility and feeling like I needed to 760 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 3: tell my story and speak out because I was becoming 761 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 3: more and more aware of just how many people in 762 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 3: this world have had similar experiences. You know, maybe not 763 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: in the exact same way with a doctor at the 764 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: scale that you know, that the public scale that we 765 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 3: experienced it, but you know, whether it be a family 766 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 3: member or a close friend or a stranger or on 767 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: college campuses, like sexual abuse and sexual assault is so 768 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: much more common than a lot of people realize. And 769 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: so I felt passionate that I needed to I needed 770 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 3: to speak out and tell my story, not just for 771 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: the future of gymnastics and the gymnasts that are going 772 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: to come after me, but for every survivor or some 773 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 3: or even someone that might be going through it currently 774 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: and afraid to speak up or hold their abuser accountable. 775 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: Like there's so many people like that in the world 776 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 3: that I've I've realized. 777 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: It's just way more common than we think. 778 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: So I felt passionate about telling that story, and you know, 779 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: it came up in the in the mirror room of 780 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: the DS as really just part of, you know, one 781 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 3: of the reasons why I retired from gymnastics and kind 782 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 3: of took them, you know, turn that chapter in my life. 783 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: But it's it's never easy to talk about, but I 784 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 3: do feel like, hey, if even if there's one person 785 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 3: who is a victim of sexual abuse who watches it 786 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 3: and goes, okay, this gives me the permission to feel 787 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 3: okay to talk to somebody about it, Like it's worth 788 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: it for me to do that, especially on TV. 789 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, mm hmmm. Have you felt the love, like 790 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: whether it's DM or has anyone come up to you 791 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: and told you face to face that you impacted their 792 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: lives by sharing that story? Yeah? 793 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I actually, just the other day, I 794 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: got a really interesting email. It was from a retired 795 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 3: military veteran and he he basically, you know, I don't 796 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: know the exact remember the exact words to use, but 797 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: he basically said like I'm so proud of you, like 798 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 3: thank you for showing your strength, you know, through Special 799 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 3: Forces and like you know, heard it from other people, 800 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 3: but to hear from a military veteran like that just 801 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: made me feel like, okay, like you know, at least 802 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 3: I gave it my all, and you know it was 803 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: people saw that that my strength on that show, so 804 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: that was really encouraging. And then you know, some people 805 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 3: just messages here and there people saying like, thank you 806 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 3: for sharing your story and you know, things like that, 807 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: but you know. 808 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: That's not it's not the reason I do it. 809 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 3: It's really just I don't want I don't want people 810 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: to give me recognition. I really want people to feel 811 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 3: like they can be strong through hearing my experience and 812 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully speak out about their own someday if 813 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: that's part of their journey and they need to. 814 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, I think. I think talking about 815 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: it just proves to everyone that we are all human 816 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: and we're all in this together, and you're not alone. 817 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's power in feeling like you're not alone. 818 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: So so good for you for talking about it. I'm 819 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: sure that's not easy. Okay, speaking of not easy pregnancy, 820 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: how has it been so far? Have you had any 821 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: speed bumps like I was? I was sick for gosh 822 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,959 Speaker 1: four months, so that was no fun. Has it been 823 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: an easy pregnancy so far? 824 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 3: I think it's been pretty easy, So I want want 825 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 3: to say easy, but it hasn't been terrible. And I've 826 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: heard I've heard good the people that I've had, you know, 827 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: morning sickness and things like that. I've been very lucky 828 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 3: not to experience that. So, you know, I think the 829 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 3: biggest thing and I. 830 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 2: Think only women can can relate to this. 831 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 3: Really, it's like the way your body just changes, Like 832 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 3: you know, you know you're pregnant, you know you're growing 833 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 3: a child, but you know your body is changing in 834 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 3: a lot of ways and that's just hard and interesting. 835 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to embrace it as much as i can. 836 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 3: And you know, we we told our team like a 837 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: few weeks ago and posted a video on social media. 838 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: They were just so excited for us. So it's just 839 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 3: been really fun and trying to enjoy it and embrace 840 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: every part of the process. 841 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: For sure. 842 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I loved that video. That was so cute how 843 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: he ripped open didn't he rip open his shirt? And 844 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: most did. 845 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 3: We had ark mom and Arkansas dad and we unzipped 846 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 3: our jackets and so cute. 847 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: I loved that. That was adorable. Do you know if 848 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: you're having a girl or a boy or are you 849 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: going to find out? 850 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 2: And we know it's a girl. 851 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: Okay, now here's the queste. Not that I guess if 852 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: you were having a boy, it would be the same question. 853 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: Because your husband was an Olympic gymnast. Would you let 854 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: them go into gymnastics? Will you hope that they go 855 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: into gymnastics so that you can coach them because they have, hello, 856 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: some pretty good jeans. 857 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't have that feeling of like 858 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 3: I hope they do, but I definitely would let them 859 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 3: if they wanted to. I kind of I mean, I 860 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 3: didn't do any other sports growing up besides gymnastics, so 861 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: I kind of want I kind of want her to 862 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 3: try things and like try, so try swimming. Maybe that 863 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 3: would be good, you know, just see what she loves, 864 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: because like I specialized so early, like. 865 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 2: I didn't do anything else. If you throw a ball 866 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: at me, I like freak out. And so. 867 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just know I did really love gymnastics and 868 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 3: gained so much from the sport. You know, I don't 869 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 3: have any regrets like specializing and doing that as seriously 870 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 3: as I did. I just, you know, like my parents 871 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 3: did with me, I just want them to love it 872 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 3: and be passionate about it and. 873 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: Really enjoy it every day. 874 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,959 Speaker 1: Of course, that's of course what just what we want. 875 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: You know, as parents, you just want your kids to 876 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: be happy, that's all. I mean, that's what it comes 877 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: down to so, you know, people have asked me all 878 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: the time, would you let your kids go on the 879 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: Bachelor or Bachelorette? Obviously it's very different than being an 880 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: Olympic gymnast. But you know, I'm like, well, wouldn't I 881 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: be a hit if I said no, you can't go 882 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: on the show where I met your dad? And it's 883 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: the whole reason that you exist, you know. So yeah, 884 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: when you get down to it, you're like, well, I 885 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: was a gymnast all of my life, so maybe my 886 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: child should do it too. You just never know. You 887 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: just never know, and hopefully you just want them to 888 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 1: be healthy and happy, right, that's what we want. Yes, 889 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: so you're do oh gosh, I can't do the math. 890 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: Are you doing this January June? 891 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 892 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just so excited to hear how it happens 893 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: and watch your delivery story. Because of course we all 894 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, follow each other, or most of us follow 895 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: each other on social media now, so I just I 896 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 1: love being able to follow this. It's just such a 897 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: such a light, you know, anybody who's pregnant, it's just 898 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: such such a light. And I'll never forget you telling 899 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 1: us at that table. It was I was like, oh. 900 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 2: My gosh, what she's telling all of us. 901 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: I feel so so honored. 902 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 3: You know, Like I've had people ask me like, well, 903 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 3: were you pregnant when you went on Special Forces? And like, no, 904 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 3: you don't understand, like they filmed things way far in advance. 905 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't pregnant, way far in advance. 906 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. Were you guys trying 907 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: to get pregnant when we were, like before you left 908 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: for Special Forces? 909 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 3: No, not until like the fall we started trying, and 910 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 3: you know, okay, yeah, we're very lucky that it happened quickly. 911 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 3: And you know we're always planning around our gymnastics schedule 912 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 3: because we our team competes January through April. It's like, okay, 913 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 3: we can't have a baby in any of those months. 914 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 3: We have to like time it as well as we can, 915 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 3: God forbid. So so we we nailed the timing. 916 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: You nailed the timing perfectionism out of his best Jordan, 917 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the Almost Famous 918 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: OG podcast. My co host couldn't be here today because 919 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: he's busy traveling. But I know, he says, Hi, he's 920 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: been watching the show. We've been recapping every Thursday morning, 921 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: so it's been really fun for him to kind of 922 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: live vicariously through me. So I pass along my hellos 923 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: from Bob and say thank you from both of us. 924 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on the podcast today. 925 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, of course. 926 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: All right, thanks everybody for listening. And actually, if you 927 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: want to follow Jordan on Instagram, tell us your Instagram handle. 928 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 3: Jordan Underscore Weaver's my Instagram perfection.