WEBVTT - Ciao Bella with Brie Garcia 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.959 All Right, I'm excited for this guest because she is 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.920 she's she's a feisty sister, but she's sweet. We've had 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.319 her on before. I'm a huge fan. I am. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.960 It's like a dormant secret fanship that I have about them. Well, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.759 we're the same generation. Yeah, they mattered a lot and 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.880 they just got to be themselves, which was so inspiring 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:27.120 to me. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.840 But they were also like strong, you know, And I'm 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.080 I want to walk the line with it with talking 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.479 about Nikki because obviously she's been through some stuff so 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:41.199 and her sister is obviously very protective and they're best friends. So, 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.320 but I do would like to get into some of 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.960 it as well. Yeah, there's a sister ship piece of 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.560 that I always want to know about, right and always, 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.320 you know, she's always having her back. So let's get 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.120 Brie Bella on and let's hear what she's up to. Hi, 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:55.640 how are you? 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.120 I'm good? It just been a crazy morning, you know, 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:00.320 summer with kids. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:06.000 Literally, if you hear kids screaming, I'm like everybody, I 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.160 can hear every sound that is coming up here. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.600 I was like, please, Dana's like on our laptop googling 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:12.840 what new camp they can go to. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.840 I did, I literally just enroll them in a camp 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.800 for tomorrow because I'm like, I have an audition I got. 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.240 I'm like, I was like, I'm the same. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.760 I literally the kids are in a different camp every 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.280 week for like the next month. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:24.959 How old are your kids? 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.760 So eight? And then my son he'll be five August first, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.880 and I'm just like, I don't know. I just feel 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.600 like it's better for them, it's better for me and 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:37.400 get them busy out. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:38.480 Especially the boys. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.560 I feel like the boys have to go like and 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.880 I'm not even I don't even care how that sounds. Actually, 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.880 I'm not even going to preface it. I'm just gonna 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.880 say my son is a six year old boy who 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.440 needs to be on the go and outside and like 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.360 actively moving, or he's not a human that I really 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:52.960 want to live with. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.280 I agree, I'm the same way. I mean, I literally 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.640 got a trampoline so my son can jump before school 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.200 teachers in sane. I'm like, I'll just see him at 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.960 times in my house and I go just go to 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.320 up from the tramp and I'm like, oh my gosh, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.560 she just needs to constantly get energy out. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.480 Things we thought we'd never say to a boy go 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:12.359 on the tramp. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:15.920 So true. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.240 Okay, you know what I think is so funny. I 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.160 was reading you know, obviously I know who you are. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:27.000 I've watched her shows, but it was it was it 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.000 made me chuckle because when I was reading something, you said, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.800 you know, you and your husband aren't really in the 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.760 press because you guys have a happy relationship, And I'm like, man, 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.360 isn't that the damn truth. I was like, me and 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.800 my ex husband plastered everywhere because our relationship was a show. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.760 But then I'm like, but then, you know, not me 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.320 and my husband. Now, it's like they don't write about 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.120 how respectful and loving our relationship is. They you know, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.000 they don't. They don't care about that. They just go 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.519 pick up any little negative comment. It was like, why 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.920 can't we celebrate the happy couples? Why can't that be 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:56.640 a headline? 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.600 And I actually feel like people would click and read. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.800 I think people actually find it refreshing. I mean, unless 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.959 I'm just one of those people who constantly like positivity 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.880 surrounded by me. But sometimes I feel like the media, 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.560 it just feels like we just constantly want to hear negativity, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.600 how bad people's lives are going, and I feel like 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.160 more than ever, they're just like digging so deep into 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.160 people's privacy, like what I've seen with my sister first 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.720 hand with this divorce. I'm like, where do like we 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.200 draw the line? Like where is their boundaries? Because I 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.600 feel like media just has zero boundaries and it's awful. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.200 Well, and I think it's hard to because you guys 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.280 are I mean, it's not that you guys are super 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.440 private too, you know, it's like you guys have your shows, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.200 you have, so I think there's when people say boundaries 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.440 like all right, well fine there Devil's Advocate is like, well, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.160 you have the reality shows, you put your personal life 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.480 out there, so then it should be okay, But what 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.760 is the boundary within all of that? Because there are 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.040 there should be boundaries, even whether you share your life 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.200 socially or not. You know. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.240 I agree. It's like, you know, one of those things 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.360 I love taking pictures with fans. I wouldn't be where 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.880 I'm met today if it wasn't for my fans. But 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.240 if I'm eating with my family, like I feel like, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.240 you know, just wait till we're done, or you know, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.440 like certain things like that, and you know, living our 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:17.120 lives on reality television, I feel like, you know you 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.440 do you give so much and Nikki and I never 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.640 hold back, even on our podcast, we don't hold back. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.920 But I feel like it's almost like you know, us 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.800 weeklies and People's and all these great platforms. It's also 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.040 like ask permission, like if you want to do a 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.919 deep story and like fact check, that's the one that crazy, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.920 like there's zero fact checking. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.440 No no, I yeah, and there is zero and when 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.160 they do have the proof. This is the funny. I 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.840 wrote about this in my book. They were running a 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.600 terrible story and it was given some information, a lot 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.040 of false information from an ex boyfriend and a bitter one. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.120 I would like to just go on record. And I 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.600 emailed the editor who was writing the story and being like, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:04.400 here there's actual text message proofs to then show that 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.920 it's not that's not the truth. And she's like, well, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.960 we're going to run it anyways. I'm like, I'm giving you. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:13.440 Improve right what no, I mean, it's wild, like literally 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.640 anyone can call TMZ, anyone can call anyone and they 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.840 can just say so I heard this, and they will 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.080 run it and it is like wild to me. I mean, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:26.400 I told Nicole, I'm like, I literally want to put 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.520 so many people in check and be like, please, have 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.919 you even like fact checked? Have you like you're just 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.960 looking at a like simple little headline, not even reading 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.840 the story, and like they make their opinions and their 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.880 decisions on what they feel is right and wrong. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.000 Prell you remind me because I had you and Nikki 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.000 both on are you the sister that dms the haters? 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.000 No, that was Nicki, and that was I feel like 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.839 roles are reversed because I'm a protective sister. It's like 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.120 I feel like now I'm dming people. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.640 So that was going to be my question for you, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.480 because you guys are so like, you're my goals. I 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.600 just wanted a sister. I love that you're twins. I 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.400 fell in love with y'all when you were in Total 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.839 Divas and I loved and I think I told you 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.039 all this before, but I loved that you were always 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.640 It was the first time I saw women be strong 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.400 and sexy, you know, And I was like, yes, more 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.279 of that as I'm like on hydroxy cut in my 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.800 very bad college days, you know, but like you were 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.520 that you were like positive body image for me because 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.440 it was about being strong and also about having a voice, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.200 and and you were just hot and I was like, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.360 this is awesome. So you two are so bonded obviously, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.720 I mean your twins, your sister's your family. But you 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:42.119 how how do you handle being protective because I've watched 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.600 her be protective of you. I've watched you be protective 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.839 of her. But like now things are really swirling, like 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.640 it's crazy. Breathe, Like I mean the headlines are all 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.279 over and that I can't imagine sitting and watching someone 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:54.719 I love because I've had to do that. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.720 Yeah, and going this is so false. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.960 Right, how do you think maybe firsthand for everything? Like 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.839 you know, well, I will say how I do it 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.920 is you know, I'm a very patient, loving person. I'm 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.400 extremely spiritual, so I definitely use my faith to kind 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.480 of like take a minute and take a breath. And 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:22.000 I am like, okay, so I call myself. But I 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.160 have more than ever I have like gone at it 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.720 with people and like really because I you know, I 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.120 told my sister this. I was like I get being 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.520 silent and like, you know, taking the high road, but 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.120 sometimes you got to put people in check and I 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.960 go and it's time, and so I was just like, 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.320 you know, I feel like how I sleep at night 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.880 is just telling some people like the facts and everything 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.880 and protecting her and I actually sleep like a baby. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.200 It's like really great. When I don't stand up for 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.720 myself or use my voice, I lose sleep at night 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.360 because I'm like, why do I just let that go? 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:55.800 Like phone? 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.120 But yeah, yeah, but it's hard. It's so it's been very. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.800 Challenging as a sister because I know what my friends. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.840 When I have dated certain people, they have seen the 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.920 red flags and some have told me prior. Some chose 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:16.080 to not tell me until later when your sister has 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.360 you know, like in the last relationship, did you see 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.240 the red flags and did you talk to her about them? 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.040 Oh yeah? Or yeah, okay yeah before they got married. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.600 Oh yeah. I mean, And I feel like people saw 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.880 it on the reality show, like you definitely saw some 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.679 of my conversations on Total bellas I had and I 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.760 was honest, And you know, it's funny because there'd be 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.559 some people coming at me like you just date every 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.840 guy she's with. It's like no, because I know what 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.240 she deserves, Like I know where how my sister should 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.640 be treated like, and I'm her twin, and like, if 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.520 I don't think my twin deserves the best, then why 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.600 should she think that. It's like no, I just you know, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.560 I definitely did. And I feel like for anyone when 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.959 your closest friends and your family member tell you about 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.040 red flags, it's like you instantly want to be stubborn 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:17.880 and pushed back, like it's crazy. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.040 What did you think was the biggest thing that you 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.400 were like, they're not going to work because of this, 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:27.040 like they're too similar in this area, or they bought 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:28.000 heads too much here. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:34.640 Yeah, I just felt like I just you know, for me, 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.480 it was I just thought maybe they saw life differently 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.760 and maybe wanted different things. And I feel like then 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.600 that makes people bump heads. I also think, like, you know, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.080 they did get put in a situation where, like, you know, 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.840 they became parents before getting married, and I think that's 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.319 always tough because I know for my husband and I 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.280 we've been married eleven years and we've had a very 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.640 successful relationship, but communication was always key for us. And 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:04.920 I even remember he and I actually did this thing. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.840 It was like this Christian workbook thing on what we 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.320 see on becoming parents, and it was really interesting. We 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.319 had this workbook and we were like how to discipline, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.079 how this, and then we'd like look at like then 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.560 we worked with a pastor, and then you went through 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.839 your answers and you really got to start to compromise, 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.520 you know, before we were even trying to have kids. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.559 But I think what helped us is we had all 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.480 this time to really get to know each other, to 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.959 come into rhythm be not only partners, you know, in 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.280 a romantic way, but also like just in life and 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.000 understanding like how to live with someone. So I just 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.679 maybe things just moved too fast so they didn't have 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.959 the opportunity to really just like put that in motion. 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.880 But communications everything, and I think that was a big 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.320 thing lacking, And I think that's the one thing that 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.680 is so important in a relationship for a good foundation, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.040 especially in marriage. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.120 No, I mean I get that piece I had, you know, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.320 with my now husband, we had a baby before we 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.080 got married. But it's also like I was almost forty, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.439 and you know, I knew we wanted to try and 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:13.320 the emotions you know started a little faster. But you know, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.600 you kind of skip that piece of the work that 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.800 you did with your husband which really forms that amazing 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.400 foundation for communication and all that. And it's like, you 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.280 gotta be real strong because you've got a baby and 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.400 a toddler then running around and you're if you're not 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.600 on the same wavelength and communication styles and the whole thing. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.040 I mean, it's it can be hard. And I know 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.640 hindsight is twenty twenty. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.240 I'm also a reverse baby havever, so it's a little tricky, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.520 but I know hindsight's twenty twenty. But do you feel 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.840 like the reality TV piece or just the public piece 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.679 of this expedited that for your sister because I can't 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.200 imagine feeling like you're feeling or like she's feeling. And 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.960 then also it being so wildly public, that's just an 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.480 unfair layer that I feels like it expedites all of 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:00.360 the worst things. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:01.400 Oh yeah, faster. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.200 I feel like in her last couple relationships, if it 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.240 wasn't put so much into the media, it would have 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.480 had more fair chances. Even in our last relationship. It's 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:17.400 almost like, and I think people actually they're hurtful comments 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.800 and how you know, there's a ton of detectives or 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.440 what do they call themselves on TikTok Instagram that just 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.640 feel like they know stories and the way they dissect, 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.520 but they don't really know. They only know what's given 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.960 to them through these like you know, media platforms. So 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.160 I think a lot of people don't realize your opinions 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.840 can lay heavy on, like how even people like dictate 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.640 what their next move is. And maybe you know, big 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.960 relationships that out there don't give each other that second 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.280 fair chance right as they're getting judged hard. It's like 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.439 living like under a microscope. And so I think that 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.000 kind of did happen with her last couple relationships. And 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.160 I told her, I'm like, Nicole, we're forty one, Like 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.959 we grew up with no social media. We lived life 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.480 like failing and succeeding, and a lot of our failures 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.439 is actually what helped our growth. And nowadays everyone thinks 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.720 we got to walk on this perfect line. And I'm 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.480 the first one to be like, I'm not perfect. You 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.880 can judge me for it. I don't care. But she 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.920 takes it hard, and I'm like, nowadays with social media, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.080 I can't imagine being a kid in today's I just 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.760 can't imagine being fifteen. I went through so many weird 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.800 stages and I needed those stages to become the woman 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.120 I am today. But I would have been judged hard 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.640 and I would have taken some weird selfies. I know 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:35.000 that in college, but I mean I would go to Titawana. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.720 I think how I was dressed. I'm like, oh my gosh, oh, 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:38.400 I would have died. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.480 Also, shout out to our former selves because we were really hot. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.400 Like I just went through my attic space and three 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.160 and I was like, why was I even wearing clothes? 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.439 We're all the same age. I was, yeah, we're all 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.800 the same age. Like my BACKLA shirt, why was I 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:51.280 even wearing? 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:51.520 That? Was so? 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.240 How did she be naked? Go girl? 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.440 I am same and so and like I just like, 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.600 you know, I think to myself, it was so great 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.440 about that is that we got that. I mean that's 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.920 like very freeing, and that was so freeing for us 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.560 and we needed it. We needed to get that out. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.720 But now kids nowadays, I mean, then they'll get bullied 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.960 or someone will be jealous in their friend group and 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:15.760 then get everyone to hate them, and then it's like 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.880 it turns into weird situations for the young ones. But 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.000 I think for us now, it's hard for us all 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.480 to live our lives almost with social media for us 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.280 who didn't grow up with it, because I have forty one, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.320 I'm like, what am I getting attacked for? Like, wait, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.840 what did people want me to do? And what do 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.840 they like? It's like you never feel like you can win, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.160 and you sometimes feel like you're losing a lot, but 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.560 you're like, oh, whatever, I don't know it's. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.600 And the tolerance gets lower, Oh for sure. Yeah, I 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.960 think for me one of the hardest things that I well, 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.160 like again and I can't imagine like being a sister 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.560 of this. But I come from a DV background, and 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.760 so when I was reading some of the articles, because 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.720 I did, I wanted to know, yeah, you know, I 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.800 looked at them and when I saw the headlines and 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.440 how it shaped shifted, and I looked at the comments 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.000 because I I almost knew what the comments would say, 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:03.880 because a lot of times when I read those headlines, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.080 it's like, well, I bet she did this or I 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.960 bet And I'm like, why does it always go to 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.760 the what the woman did and then say the woman 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.560 did it, and then always and then and then them saying, well, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.720 she's a wrestler, so she's probably the aggressor. And I'm 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.920 like how this is so unfair. It's like, first of all, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.040 we don't know the whole story, but also why does 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.520 it switch and then just put the blame then on 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.080 her because she's a wrestler, so with you as well 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.680 being one in that field, like how do you kind 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:34.000 of manage that? And those then perception of maybe then 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.840 who would be the aggressor in a relationship? 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.440 And you know what's crazy is the people because I 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.400 would go look at like the bios and I would 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.680 debate and pray really hard if I should send them 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.920 a nice paragraph to their DMS, which I held back 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.400 a lot, but I laughed because you guys are the 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.000 same people who call wrestling fake, but all of a 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.080 sudden in a situation, you want it to all a 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.320 sudden be real, and that's always driven like driven US 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.640 Pro wrestler is crazy when people call we do fake 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.720 because you see constantly the injuries and what we put 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.280 our bodies through and we actually are really doing it 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.520 predetermined finishes. So yes, it's the entertainment part, but you 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.800 know what we do bake. But I always find it 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.200 funny with those people. It's like they use it when 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.560 it's good for them and then they don't when it's not. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.680 But I've recognized this the last couple of years with 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.160 a lot of big breakups and the media, and instantly 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.640 the woman is the villain. And I think to myself, why, Like, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.120 is it because it's a strong, successful woman and we 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.800 love seeing like we want to see her fall, so 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.160 we root it on. I don't know, but it has 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.680 driven me crazy and I even go, everyone keeps asking 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.440 about her, but has anyone asked what he did? Anyone 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.520 go look at the police report and it's like, no 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.240 one does that, And I'm trying to figure that part out, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.040 and I go, is it because she may be out 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.800 of the relationship bigger stars, so going after her more 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.320 like means something? Not sure? But yeah, when I would 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.560 see that actually the pro they're like, well, she's a 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.760 pro wrestler, And I'm like, so weird because you're also 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.439 the people who hate on wrestling. Right now we're going 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.440 to be like it's so real, But yeah, I mean 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.040 it's I still will see stuff at times and I 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.399 literally it's really hard on me. I'm just like no 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:19.600 patience for it anymore. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.359 M Yeah, what's the retreat for you? Like, how do 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.399 you I know, you're a spiritual person. I feel like 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:26.840 you guys were yoga people too. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.760 Is that true? Did I make that up? Look at 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.200 me pulling from my total dubas archives. Yes? 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.240 Girl, Yeah? But how what is the biggest reset then 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.119 for all this? Because all of these things y'all are 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.960 dealing with are really heavy. I mean, this is divorce 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.040 is heavy enough without there being any sort of domestic 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:49.040 violence allegations or like that. This is heavy, heavy stuff. 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.480 So how does breathe the mom take a minute, breathe 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.720 the sister to be able to get back to like 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.240 less reactive and more proactive for you and your family? 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.560 Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, the great thing 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:06.000 is is being with family. I mean I will say, 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:07.800 like I have a life coach, talk to her every 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.400 two weeks. It's incredible to do it for business and personal. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.960 My sister and I, you know, because we have a 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.479 lot of faith. We constantly are praying. And I'm one 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.280 of those like I just like I look at I'm 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.639 blessed for what I have. I don't think about what 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.520 I don't have. And when I say I'm not talking 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.000 about material things in that way, I mean, like, okay, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.960 like my family's been through it. I mean, even my 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.560 mom in the last couple of years, what she's been through, 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.919 like we've been through it. But also I look at 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.359 the positive things of the life we live and I 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.840 get a wake up every morning. I have an incredible husband, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.679 I have two healthy children, and I have a wine 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.760 brand and a thriving podcast. Like I look at all 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.520 the things I have, and every night I make my 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.399 kids do this and my husband and I do it. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.280 We say one thing we're grateful for, and then we 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.320 say one thing we're proud of ourselves that we did 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:00.960 that day. And I feel like constantly giving yourself affirmations 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.080 really helps you get through it. And my sister, I 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.240 will say this, her biggest thing when everything went down 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.840 is she turned to faith because it's what we know 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.520 never leaves you what feels there the strongest, and so 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:14.920 you know, for her and I were still like that. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:19.080 I'm a church goer. I you know, I do a 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:20.960 lot of my spiritual things and feel laugh. If you 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:22.560 go in my backyard, you see a big statue of 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.879