WEBVTT - 12/07/21 DPS Hour 3 Kirk Herbstreit 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.280 Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday, Dan and The 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.880 Dane's Dan Patrick Show. Make sure you go to Dan 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.360 Patrick dot com. Still time for you to order something 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.159 and get it in time for the holidays. Plus we 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.800 got a special feature where you can have a handwritten 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.000 note in your order and time for the holidays. Gifts puzzles, 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.120 We got coffee mugs, We got Todd's greeting cards. We 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:31.720 got limited edition items from the clothing manufacturer's Fatigue, tons 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.919 of items, including the calendar, A wonderful calendar. It'll be 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.879 the last memory of mclovin. Two of those months in 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:45.320 there feature mclovin shirtless. Yes, I know, not my idea. Yeah, 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.519 but you did it. Yes? Can I tell people what 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.760 it is? Is? Are we still keeping these confidentials? No, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.320 you can tell them. I was that Jim Morrison and cover. Yeah, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.840 and you would expect that. No. And I don't look 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.160 a thing like Jim now you do not. No, you 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.520 have your shirt off, and Jim Morrison had his shirt 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.399 off as well. But we recreated famous album covers, and 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:11.600 none more famous than Seaton O'Connor with Nirvana. I thought 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.120 that that was That was the one that stood out 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.840 once again. Seaton usually has one that stands out. 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So you can 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.480 order the calendar and get it in time for the holidays. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.360 Eight seven seven three D P Show email Audre stp 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.040 at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:00.680 Kirk Herbstreet will join us, coming up high and finalists. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:05.120 It's Aiden Hutchinson, Kenny Pickett, c J. Stroud, Bryce Young, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.120 Windy night last night, Patriots beating the Bills. They ran 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.120 the ball forty six times, they threw the ball three times. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.680 I kept wondering, Buffalo, just stop, just stop the run. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.280 You know they're gonna run, and you still couldn't stop 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.079 the run. Like that's the scary part of this. Now 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.280 you can say Buffalo could have easily won this, Yes 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.120 they could have, but you got to sell out if 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.000 you want Mac Jones to throw the ball in these conditions, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.560 stop the run. And that's what was amazing. Here's Bill 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.320 Belichick on the philosophy last night. Bill, at what point 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:45.679 did you know yours was at the planned all week? No? No, no, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.079 we didn't know what it was going to be, so 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.320 way it worked out. On don't know. Josh did a 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.800 good job throwing the ball out there today. It's not easy. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.600 I thought they did a pretty good job. Not that 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.040 he had a career day or anything, but it was. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.399 It was tough conditions, but he's slung it in. They're 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.160 pretty good. I made some really good throws. Sunday night, 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.560 the Bears at Lambeau facing Aaron Rodgers and the Green 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.359 Bay Packers. The NFC North Showdown Sunday seven Eastern on 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:12.440 NBC and Peacock are streaming partners. College football coaching carousel 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:17.519 continued to turn yesterday. University of Miami fired Manny Diaz 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.240 and hired Oregon's Mario christa ball and it's a lucrative deal, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.679 so they got to buy amount and then they got 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.040 to pay him. Christa Ball played for the Hurricanes and 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.320 he leaves after a successful stint in Eugene, but it 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.600 opens up another high profile vacancy. So it's been a 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.920 wild period in college football when you think about USC, 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.880 Notre Dame, LSU, Oklahoma, Florida, now Oregon, and who knows 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.920 there could be more if another coach decides to maybe 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.480 leave for the NFL. Behind all of this money, If 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.920 you have any questions about how college football is doing, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.680 just look at the contracts that these coaches are signing. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.560 What Brian Kelly is signing, Lincoln Riley signed for whoever's 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.680 going to go to Oregon. Winning is at a premium 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.000 and the sport is more competitive than ever in. Schools 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.080 are making tough choices. They give you about three years 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.160 to prove yourself. Krista Ball seems like a great hire 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.400 for Miami, but at the rate college coaches are switching 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.480 places these days, who knows how any of this is 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.360 going to play out. And Krista Ball is a great recruiter. 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.440 College football is all about recruiting. The NFL is about coaching. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.040 College football is about recruiting. Got to get out there, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.919 got to recruit Lincoln Riley just brought in his number 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.599 one recruiter at Oklahoma to USC. It's essential. You got 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.440 to get into these homes and you've got to be 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.839 able to sell your program. Recruiting is what it's all about. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:47.640 And Krista Ball at Miami understanding you know, the program, 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.840 the landscape there, and it seems like that's a natural 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.680 hire for them. As far as what Oregon does now, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.600 to me, that's a big time job. Would they reach 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.000 out to chip Kelly because chip Kelly after the middle 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:06.000 of January, there's no buyout. You could just hire him. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.280 Do you want to revisit that with chip Kelly? Certainly 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:13.360 glory days with chip Kelly, But Oregon is a big 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.120 time john. Yeah, Paul, it's good. Don't you find Miami 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.919 confusing the Hurricanes that when you see the level of 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.880 talent they used to have and the way they controlled 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.800 the southern half of that state. Yeah, they could have 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.480 just recruited, you know, south of Tallahassee and owned college football. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.960 It feels like that's gone away. Bran, I don't when 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.919 it did. It's like USC, when did it not be 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.720 cool to go there? Well, you think they're getting the 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.640 right player and then you realize that the right player 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.719 is probably playing in another state for another university, that hey, 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.200 we're getting a five star. Okay, Well there's a difference 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.880 in five stars. There's five stars, and then there's somebody 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.320 else who's a five star, who is truly a five star, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.920 And sometimes those designations are inflated, where you go, man, 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.960 that guy's a five star, okay, and then you see him, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.719 you go, man, probably not a five star, or somebody's 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.480 a three star, and then they get better and they 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.400 become a five star. You know, players will talk. I 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.080 remember talking to a recruiter who talked about when you're 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.440 looking for offensive lineman, you know how he would look 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:22.560 for offensive lineman that he wanted athletic linebacker. He looking 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:26.919 in high school. He wanted athletic a tight end or 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.960 a linebacker that he could then put weight on you 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.159 and then you could be an offensive lineman. He wasn't 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.839 necessarily getting offensive lineman as much as he wanted to. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.360 Then take chances on that tight end could turn out 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.000 to be a great offensive lineman. I could put thirty 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.240 to forty pounds on that tight end. Now all of 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.160 a sudden, I have a really athletic offensive lineman. So 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.400 you're trying to recruit who am I recruiting and what 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.400 are they going to be once they get here? And 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.599 do they want to be great? You know that that's 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.000 part of the recruiting that you know that it's tricky 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.920 because of who you're recruiting. Sometimes you get that guy 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.080 and you go, man, he is awesome, but that's as 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.000 good as he ever gets. And I think with USC 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.120 we just assume, well, you're getting all that talent. But 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:16.920 then they weren't. They were letting the better quarterbacks leave. Yeah, Paul. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.960 In the past eighteen seasons in Miami, Hurricanes have won 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.280 ten or more games once. Yeah, yikes. Right after they 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.720 left the Big East. Yeah, I mean when what's their 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.560 last glory day? They had a ten and three season 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.160 with Mark Richt and they were ranked two at one point. Yeah, 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.760 then you go back to like oh, three or four 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.360 or five. You know, I think when Ed Reid was 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.320 still there, Larry Cooker very relevant. They were as high 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.840 as one, two or three all those years in early 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.520 two thousands. But they had a big personality as a 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:55.080 head coach. Jimmy Johnson was a big personality. Howard Snellenberger, 0:07:55.120 --> 0:08:01.680 big personality they had, Butch Davis, Dennis Ericson. Maybe not 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:07.480 big personalities, but they had names, reputable names. But it 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.080 felt like Manny Diaz was the right choice. But Mario 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.880 christal Ball going back home feels like that's a great 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.720 hire for them. But for me, it's the recruiting part 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.000 of it. You got you gotta get those kids and 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.040 keep those kids. Yeah, club the program that fell off 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.840 that always surprised me is Nebraska, Like how dominant they 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.200 were in the night Would that because they went to 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.520 the Big ten and is too competitive or well? I 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.640 think that factors in. But I remember when they fired 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.560 Frank Solich. Did they bring in Bill Callahan after that? 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.400 That's right, Yeah, there was Bow Poliny for ten seconds 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.760 and then Bill Callahan for four years and then back 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:52.480 to Bow Polini and Poliny did some nice work well. Also, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.960 you know the identity of Nebraska is they always had 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.280 a great running back and they had an unbelievable offensive line, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.720 and then you know they're defenses were famous, the black Shirts, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.000 I believe that. You know, they they held up their 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.679 end of the bargain as well, but you always thought, man, 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.240 they got shoe offensive linemen are going to play in 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.640 the NFL and you got a great running back there. Yeah, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.120 it's hard to picture this, but could this happen to 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.680 Alabama when Nick Saban leaves, Like they don't handle the 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.480 process to the next coach right, and it gets a 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.040 little loose and there's a couple eight win seasons. It's 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.040 hard to picture in your head, but I'm sure Nebraska 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.679 fans never thought that was going to happen. Well, if 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.000 you go back to Bear Bryant when he stepped down 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:36.360 and then what happened to Alabama's football program after that? Yeah, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.040 mclub is Oklahoma. How did that way go to the SEC? 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:48.400 They could like you always feel like, well, that'll never happen. Yeah, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.439 Like to me, it would never happen with Ohio State, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.520 But then it's happened to you know these other you 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.280 know what you would consider franchises where you go, man, 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.680 they used to be great, Yeah, Polly, after Bear Bryant left, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.360 they went Alabama went to Ray Perkins and Bill Curry 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.000 and Gene Stallings had a very nice run there about 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.320 eight years where they were ranked in the top five 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.200 a lot. Yeah, and it went Mike Debos, Dennis FRANCIONI 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.000 remember he was hot at TCU, Mike Shula, No, sorry, 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.040 did they have price? Wh wasn't that guy who got 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.360 fired at the Strip Club? Was he ever hired? Did 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.400 he ever coach a game? Though? I think he was 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.319 hired and then they stopped the hiring and he he never 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.520 coached something. Was he Washington State? Yeah? And then he 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.040 got hired but then never coached a game there. Except 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.440 for Nick Saban's first year where he was seven and 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.040 six for Alabama, he has been ranked number one at 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.840 some point in the season every season since. All right, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.760 we'll talk to Kirk curb stud. I'm gonna ask him. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.720 Should Kenny Pickett play in the bowl game? It's the 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.360 Peach Bowl. I don't know what the upside is gonna 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.600 be a first round pick? You know, the downside is 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:00.280 injury or if he doesn't play well then you know, 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:01.960 is that going to be a knock on him as 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.240 a first rounder aft pick? I don't know. These are 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.600 questions that I think have to be asked now as 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.200 we move forward with the name, image and likeness and 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:13.439 players taking more control of their future. And when Christian 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.320 McCaffrey said I'm not going to play in a bowl game, 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.200 everybody freaked out. Leonard Fournette was not going to play. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:26.240 People freaked out, you know, Cavan Thibadeaux not playing for Oregon. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.480 I don't know if anybody's freaking out over there, So 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.080 Herbie'll join us coming up. Also, we're still we got 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:38.080 the I team on this. Carson Palmer lost the Heisman trophy. Key, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.600 there's a meeting, Okay, explain to the audience what is 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.880 going on in Atlanta as we speak. All the College 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.840 Football Hall of Fame, and we have a contact there 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.200 who is in the know, and the administrative assistant said 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.360 they are in an impromptu meeting. She didn't say it 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.680 is definitely about what our screw up. That's what we know. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.599 But I was told by this person who said, I 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.760 can't talk. I'm in a meeting. I'll have this resolved 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.040 and give you guys an update tomorrow. But that's what 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.480 I said, what is to be resolved. We didn't ask 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:12.640 a question. Blame I'm David. Where the trophy is? Nick? 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.000 And Ohio? Hi? Nick? What's on your mind today? Uh? Hi? 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.280 A couple of first time caller. Um, I was a 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.560 couple of things. Um, I'm from Loveland. Uh did you 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.880 ever Mason Thomas ever play us in the seventies. I'm 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.679 only forties five. No idea, don't act like you didn't 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.679 know that I torched Lovelin Nick, Did you and what 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:38.679 you've torched us? Yeah? Come on, you own the Tigers? Yep? Yeah, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.520 Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Did you have Did 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:47.560 you have some player a family the Maholics? Uh no, 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.920 I'm a I'm a tacket or a no no ball. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:57.400 Have you heard of the Maholics that played at Loveland? Uh? No, 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.680 no I have Okay, all right, well, yeah you should 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.080 check with them because I've got the research. Thank you. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.400 Oh my gosh, yeah, hold on, hold on about about 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:12.000 the Heisman situation, Yeah, you guys are big bang theories fans. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.480 I was thinking maybe Jim Parsons is to blame because 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:20.120 this is kind of like Schrodinger's Heisman. M No, I 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.679 could never you know what. Jim Parsons has never done 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.080 anything wrong in my opinion. Yeah, pall the Moholocks may 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.480 have moved after you torched their team for thirty three. Yeah, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.440 they didn't want any part of being in that community. Yeah, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.600 good athletes there at Loveling Angle. They were tough, tough, Yeah, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.640 put up thirty five. No, I don't know what it was. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:43.240 You know, after a while they just went scoreboard. Loveling 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.520 was good. Those are tough players, not as tough as 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.520 the Mason Cummins. Are they cowboys? No, they were the Tigers, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:14:00.920 Loveling Tigers. Yeah, the colors black and something. All right, 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.160 should we take a break here, her curb suit's going 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.200 to join us. Yeah. I never played against Herbie's high school, Centerville. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.760 I don't know if Herbie played basketball Centerville Elks. I 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.440 remember going up there to scrimmage this Centerville Elks. But 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:20.280 I'm older than Herbie. But yeah, Herbie went to a 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.680 big time that's a big school, Centerville. All right, we'll 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.000 take a break here. 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Learn 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.960 more Discover dot com slash yaps twenty twenty one Nielson 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.080 Report limitations apply. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.960 Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.800 morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.160 Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:15.440 iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.200 Peacock app. Fritzie b is being accused of being in 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:25.560 the heist Man. What do you think we lost the Heisman? Well, 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.440 we didn't lose the heisman, we lost the key to 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.360 the Heisman suitcase and Fritzie's being referred to as the 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:36.200 heist Man. Thank you pretty clever? Yeah? Eight seven seven 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.600 three d P Show email under stpa Dan Patrick dot 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.560 com Twitter handle it DPS show. Is Herbie set to 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:46.160 join us? There? Todd any minute? Okay, any minute? Let 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.400 me get to George in Ohio. Hey George, what's on 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:55.360 your mind today? Hey? It's all Ohio today, isn't it? Yeah? Nick? George, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:16:02.520 Herbie um Well, Nick brough up An th point your youth. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.560 I've been wanting to ask you, how old were you 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:10.360 when you moved away from Zanesville. I was very young, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.320 and then I moved to Arizona for a couple of years, 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:19.280 and then I moved back, like fourth grade to Mason, Ohio. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.760 Oh okay, So I just wondered because I used to 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.960 play a lot of pickup basketball down at the old 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.120 YMCA building, and I thought maybe he was one of 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:32.320 the kids. Yeah. No, But I went in Zanesville very long. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.040 I was born there, but thank you, George. And then 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.240 moved to Arizona for a couple of years. Dad got transferred, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.320 and then moved back to outside of Cincinnati, Yampo, the 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.160 y m c A. And is that where the troupe 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.960 the statue is? No, not anymore, Noah, because I thought, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.800 and it's not fair to have a statue outside of 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.800 the YMCA. I wanted a better place. I wanted something 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.280 like the town hall, you know, the steps of the 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:00.520 you know, the city hall or something something like that. Yeah, 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:05.159 something like that. Yeah. Uh, is Herbie joining us to 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:10.080 any tonson? Todd lost the heisman and he lost Herbie. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:16.680 He's having technical issues. Yeah, yeah, Jeff and Detroit. I Jeff, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.359 what's on your mind today? What up? No? I just 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.119 have a quick question for you guys. What division Clayton 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:30.760 Manning and be our friends? And then they lost the boy? 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.480 Quick question, real quick? Uh. If you guys do the 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.520 Alabama T shirts with the rat poison on the Seaton, 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.960 I want one. If you got one for it, And 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.000 when you are gonna click up the Christmas song, it'll 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.080 take seat. Baby, let's go. It's Christmas style, you guys, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.919 Christmas angs out a bit all right? Well, thank you, Jeff. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.480 Are we gonna do a rat poison Alabama T shirt? Seaton? Oh? 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.600 It probably should, Yeah, idea, probably, So don't get that 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.960 out there. We got a a Mick Leaving shirt tribute 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.240 for mclovin and that'll be up on the website. So 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.320 if you're happy mclovitt is Leavin, then we got the 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.680 T shirt for you, Mick Leavin. I love that. By 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.520 the way, if you have Christmas ornaments, have the Christmas 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.280 tree behind me, send those in you guys are always great. 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:18.400 Just keep them fan friendly. If you were friendly, there's 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.480 always a couple in there and you go, Nope, can't 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.520 put that one on the tree. I like it, but 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.639 can't put that one on the tree. Update the poll results, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.440 then we'll get to Herbie. There sadly, who is most 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.840 to blame. You've run to the lead on this one. 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:35.000 Todd's still a solid second mark emeric. So I'm being 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.800 blamed for losing the key to the heisman case that 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.400 belonged to Carson Palmer, that contains the high school. You're 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.240 really being blamed for trusting people liked, and I should 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.200 be blamed. It starts with me. Yes, that's what you get. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:54.919 Thank you, Todd rat kurkurb Street ESPN college football analyst Herbie, 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.760 how is your day? I'm good man. How you doing well? 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.280 I've had better days, had a bad day yesterday and 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:07.879 it's continued today. We've lost the key to Carson Palmer's heisman, uh, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.240 you know the container, and we sent the box back 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.000 to him. He'd loaned us his heisman for about a 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.000 year and then we sent it back and he wanted 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.800 it for the College Football Hall of Fame induction. And 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.240 he has the case, he doesn't have the key to 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.480 open it up. Oh my gosh, I know what are 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.880 you gonna do? You can you can't? Is it too 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.040 late to him. Do you know, because you guys do 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.359 the Heisman Show, and do you know if there is 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:39.840 one key that fits all Heisman suitcases? Well, you know, 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.280 there's only one person that you can ask that too, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.240 and that's the Commissioner of College Athletics. That's Chris Fowler. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.080 I have no idea at all how that works. Chris's 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.399 intimately involved in the Heisman. I'm just merely a pawn. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.199 PAULI can you check with Fowler and Fritzie and just 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.439 see is there a key that will open up so 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.280 I can get this to cars. I don't want him 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.040 to break open that suitcase with the Heisman there. But 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:12.120 that's that's my problem. You're working the Heisman Show, aren't you. No. No, 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.480 the last year it's it's um. It's honestly a blessing 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.520 because we do Army Navy UM that same day, and 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.959 all these years we would do Army Navy with college 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.840 game day, whether we're Baltimore, Philly, or in this case 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.240 in New Jersey, it met life and then we would leave, 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:31.840 we go back and you know, you'd love to do 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.280 the Heisman. But Lee and I, you know, we're in 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.200 the back of the room. Ask a couple of questions 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:40.000 and truly Fouler and the four or five finalists, it's 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.800 really their show. Well, we last year got off of 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.840 it and we got to stay. Or two years ago 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.280 we got to stay for Army Navy and first time 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:50.920 all these years are doing game Day in the morning. 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.760 Never got to stay and it's such a cool scene. 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.040 And um so no this year I'll be I'll be 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.760 there again watching Army and Navy. Fired up a home 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.320 depot show college game Day. Army Navy will be at 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.240 MetLife Stadium. They'll be there this Saturday, nine am until 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.760 noon Eastern. I tell people, if you get any opportunity 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.879 to go to an Army game, I haven't. I haven't 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.480 been to a Navy game at Navy, but I've been 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.160 to West Point quite a few times, and I've been 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:23.760 to the Army Navy game as well. There's just something 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.560 magical about it. Um you know, when when whenever you 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.880 start to feel bad about who we are or what's 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.520 going on in our country, just go and you see, 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.199 you know, there's so many positive things. We still got 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:46.760 a shot here, that's true. It reminded of like, oh 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:50.880 my gosh, this is incredible, you know, to see these 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.159 guys and girls what they're doing. It's it's impressive. I 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.440 brought this up earlier in the show, and I don't 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.560 know if it happens anytime soon. But I wonder, with name, 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.680 image and likeness, like Kenny Pickett, it pitt, what if 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.359 he said to the Peach Bowl, Hey, I don't you know, 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.680 you pay me fifty thousand dollars, I'll play in the game. 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.679 If not, I'm gonna get ready for the draft. That 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:14.600 it's it's not a meaningful game. And maybe the fact 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.240 that we're going to expand the playoffs here soon. But 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.560 you know, Christian McCaffrey did it what six years ago, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:25.200 Leonard Fournette, people freaked out. You know, Cavon Thibadeaux is 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.080 going to sit out and nobody's gonna care about that. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:31.080 I just wonder if does it benefit Kenny Pickett to 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:35.399 play in this Peach Bowl game. It just depends on 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.840 how you're wired. I'm not going to try to say 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.520 these guys should or should not play. I'm from a 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:44.720 different generation. You don't like you. I try to do 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:46.679 the best I can. You know, I have four boys 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.040 that are all twenty one and younger. I mean, I 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.480 get to this generation. It's not like I have my 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.720 head in the sand. But I don't have to agree 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:58.120 with it. Katy Pickett and pitt Or in Unchartered Waters. 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:00.240 I mean, you say the Peach Bowl like we're saying 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:04.680 the Blue Bonnet Ball. That's a huge game for that 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:09.119