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Speaker 1: Windy night last night, Patriots beating the Bills. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball forty six times, they threw the ball three times.
Speaker 1: I kept wondering, Buffalo, just stop, just stop the run.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna run, and you still couldn't stop
Speaker 1: the run. Like that's the scary part of this. Now
Speaker 1: you can say Buffalo could have easily won this, Yes
Speaker 1: they could have, but you got to sell out if
Speaker 1: you want Mac Jones to throw the ball in these conditions,
Speaker 1: stop the run. And that's what was amazing. Here's Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick on the philosophy last night. Bill, at what point
Speaker 1: did you know yours was at the planned all week? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: we didn't know what it was going to be, so
Speaker 1: way it worked out. On don't know. Josh did a
Speaker 1: good job throwing the ball out there today. It's not easy.
Speaker 1: I thought they did a pretty good job. Not that
Speaker 1: he had a career day or anything, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was tough conditions, but he's slung it in. They're
Speaker 1: pretty good. I made some really good throws. Sunday night,
Speaker 1: the Bears at Lambeau facing Aaron Rodgers and the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. The NFC North Showdown Sunday seven Eastern on
Speaker 1: NBC and Peacock are streaming partners. College football coaching carousel
Speaker 1: continued to turn yesterday. University of Miami fired Manny Diaz
Speaker 1: and hired Oregon's Mario christa ball and it's a lucrative deal,
Speaker 1: so they got to buy amount and then they got
Speaker 1: to pay him. Christa Ball played for the Hurricanes and
Speaker 1: he leaves after a successful stint in Eugene, but it
Speaker 1: opens up another high profile vacancy. So it's been a
Speaker 1: wild period in college football when you think about USC,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, LSU, Oklahoma, Florida, now Oregon, and who knows
Speaker 1: there could be more if another coach decides to maybe
Speaker 1: leave for the NFL. Behind all of this money, If
Speaker 1: you have any questions about how college football is doing,
Speaker 1: just look at the contracts that these coaches are signing.
Speaker 1: What Brian Kelly is signing, Lincoln Riley signed for whoever's
Speaker 1: going to go to Oregon. Winning is at a premium
Speaker 1: and the sport is more competitive than ever in. Schools
Speaker 1: are making tough choices. They give you about three years
Speaker 1: to prove yourself. Krista Ball seems like a great hire
Speaker 1: for Miami, but at the rate college coaches are switching
Speaker 1: places these days, who knows how any of this is
Speaker 1: going to play out. And Krista Ball is a great recruiter.
Speaker 1: College football is all about recruiting. The NFL is about coaching.
Speaker 1: College football is about recruiting. Got to get out there,
Speaker 1: got to recruit Lincoln Riley just brought in his number
Speaker 1: one recruiter at Oklahoma to USC. It's essential. You got
Speaker 1: to get into these homes and you've got to be
Speaker 1: able to sell your program. Recruiting is what it's all about.
Speaker 1: And Krista Ball at Miami understanding you know, the program,
Speaker 1: the landscape there, and it seems like that's a natural
Speaker 1: hire for them. As far as what Oregon does now,
Speaker 1: to me, that's a big time job. Would they reach
Speaker 1: out to chip Kelly because chip Kelly after the middle
Speaker 1: of January, there's no buyout. You could just hire him.
Speaker 1: Do you want to revisit that with chip Kelly? Certainly
Speaker 1: glory days with chip Kelly, But Oregon is a big
Speaker 1: time john. Yeah, Paul, it's good. Don't you find Miami
Speaker 1: confusing the Hurricanes that when you see the level of
Speaker 1: talent they used to have and the way they controlled
Speaker 1: the southern half of that state. Yeah, they could have
Speaker 1: just recruited, you know, south of Tallahassee and owned college football.
Speaker 1: It feels like that's gone away. Bran, I don't when
Speaker 1: it did. It's like USC, when did it not be
Speaker 1: cool to go there? Well, you think they're getting the
Speaker 1: right player and then you realize that the right player
Speaker 1: is probably playing in another state for another university, that hey,
Speaker 1: we're getting a five star. Okay, Well there's a difference
Speaker 1: in five stars. There's five stars, and then there's somebody
Speaker 1: else who's a five star, who is truly a five star,
Speaker 1: And sometimes those designations are inflated, where you go, man,
Speaker 1: that guy's a five star, okay, and then you see him,
Speaker 1: you go, man, probably not a five star, or somebody's
Speaker 1: a three star, and then they get better and they
Speaker 1: become a five star. You know, players will talk. I
Speaker 1: remember talking to a recruiter who talked about when you're
Speaker 1: looking for offensive lineman, you know how he would look
Speaker 1: for offensive lineman that he wanted athletic linebacker. He looking
Speaker 1: in high school. He wanted athletic a tight end or
Speaker 1: a linebacker that he could then put weight on you
Speaker 1: and then you could be an offensive lineman. He wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily getting offensive lineman as much as he wanted to.
Speaker 1: Then take chances on that tight end could turn out
Speaker 1: to be a great offensive lineman. I could put thirty
Speaker 1: to forty pounds on that tight end. Now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I have a really athletic offensive lineman. So
Speaker 1: you're trying to recruit who am I recruiting and what
Speaker 1: are they going to be once they get here? And
Speaker 1: do they want to be great? You know that that's
Speaker 1: part of the recruiting that you know that it's tricky
Speaker 1: because of who you're recruiting. Sometimes you get that guy
Speaker 1: and you go, man, he is awesome, but that's as
Speaker 1: good as he ever gets. And I think with USC
Speaker 1: we just assume, well, you're getting all that talent. But
Speaker 1: then they weren't. They were letting the better quarterbacks leave. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: In the past eighteen seasons in Miami, Hurricanes have won
Speaker 1: ten or more games once. Yeah, yikes. Right after they
Speaker 1: left the Big East. Yeah, I mean when what's their
Speaker 1: last glory day? They had a ten and three season
Speaker 1: with Mark Richt and they were ranked two at one point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you go back to like oh, three or four
Speaker 1: or five. You know, I think when Ed Reid was
Speaker 1: still there, Larry Cooker very relevant. They were as high
Speaker 1: as one, two or three all those years in early
Speaker 1: two thousands. But they had a big personality as a
Speaker 1: head coach. Jimmy Johnson was a big personality. Howard Snellenberger,
Speaker 1: big personality they had, Butch Davis, Dennis Ericson. Maybe not
Speaker 1: big personalities, but they had names, reputable names. But it
Speaker 1: felt like Manny Diaz was the right choice. But Mario
Speaker 1: christal Ball going back home feels like that's a great
Speaker 1: hire for them. But for me, it's the recruiting part
Speaker 1: of it. You got you gotta get those kids and
Speaker 1: keep those kids. Yeah, club the program that fell off
Speaker 1: that always surprised me is Nebraska, Like how dominant they
Speaker 1: were in the night Would that because they went to
Speaker 1: the Big ten and is too competitive or well? I
Speaker 1: think that factors in. But I remember when they fired
Speaker 1: Frank Solich. Did they bring in Bill Callahan after that?
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, there was Bow Poliny for ten seconds
Speaker 1: and then Bill Callahan for four years and then back
Speaker 1: to Bow Polini and Poliny did some nice work well. Also,
Speaker 1: you know the identity of Nebraska is they always had
Speaker 1: a great running back and they had an unbelievable offensive line,
Speaker 1: and then you know they're defenses were famous, the black Shirts,
Speaker 1: I believe that. You know, they they held up their
Speaker 1: end of the bargain as well, but you always thought, man,
Speaker 1: they got shoe offensive linemen are going to play in
Speaker 1: the NFL and you got a great running back there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to picture this, but could this happen to
Speaker 1: Alabama when Nick Saban leaves, Like they don't handle the
Speaker 1: process to the next coach right, and it gets a
Speaker 1: little loose and there's a couple eight win seasons. It's
Speaker 1: hard to picture in your head, but I'm sure Nebraska
Speaker 1: fans never thought that was going to happen. Well, if
Speaker 1: you go back to Bear Bryant when he stepped down
Speaker 1: and then what happened to Alabama's football program after that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: mclub is Oklahoma. How did that way go to the SEC?
Speaker 1: They could like you always feel like, well, that'll never happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like to me, it would never happen with Ohio State,
Speaker 1: But then it's happened to you know these other you
Speaker 1: know what you would consider franchises where you go, man,
Speaker 1: they used to be great, Yeah, Polly, after Bear Bryant left,
Speaker 1: they went Alabama went to Ray Perkins and Bill Curry
Speaker 1: and Gene Stallings had a very nice run there about
Speaker 1: eight years where they were ranked in the top five
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and it went Mike Debos, Dennis FRANCIONI
Speaker 1: remember he was hot at TCU, Mike Shula, No, sorry,
Speaker 1: did they have price? Wh wasn't that guy who got
Speaker 1: fired at the Strip Club? Was he ever hired? Did
Speaker 1: he ever coach a game? Though? I think he was
Speaker 1: hired and then they stopped the hiring and he he never
Speaker 1: coached something. Was he Washington State? Yeah? And then he
Speaker 1: got hired but then never coached a game there. Except
Speaker 1: for Nick Saban's first year where he was seven and
Speaker 1: six for Alabama, he has been ranked number one at
Speaker 1: some point in the season every season since. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Kirk curb stud. I'm gonna ask him.
Speaker 1: Should Kenny Pickett play in the bowl game? It's the
Speaker 1: Peach Bowl. I don't know what the upside is gonna
Speaker 1: be a first round pick? You know, the downside is
Speaker 1: injury or if he doesn't play well then you know,
Speaker 1: is that going to be a knock on him as
Speaker 1: a first rounder aft pick? I don't know. These are
Speaker 1: questions that I think have to be asked now as
Speaker 1: we move forward with the name, image and likeness and
Speaker 1: players taking more control of their future. And when Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey said I'm not going to play in a bowl game,
Speaker 1: everybody freaked out. Leonard Fournette was not going to play.
Speaker 1: People freaked out, you know, Cavan Thibadeaux not playing for Oregon.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's freaking out over there, So
Speaker 1: Herbie'll join us coming up. Also, we're still we got
Speaker 1: the I team on this. Carson Palmer lost the Heisman trophy. Key,
Speaker 1: there's a meeting, Okay, explain to the audience what is
Speaker 1: going on in Atlanta as we speak. All the College
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, and we have a contact there
Speaker 1: who is in the know, and the administrative assistant said
Speaker 1: they are in an impromptu meeting. She didn't say it
Speaker 1: is definitely about what our screw up. That's what we know.
Speaker 1: But I was told by this person who said, I
Speaker 1: can't talk. I'm in a meeting. I'll have this resolved
Speaker 1: and give you guys an update tomorrow. But that's what
Speaker 1: I said, what is to be resolved. We didn't ask
Speaker 1: a question. Blame I'm David. Where the trophy is? Nick?
Speaker 1: And Ohio? Hi? Nick? What's on your mind today? Uh? Hi?
Speaker 1: A couple of first time caller. Um, I was a
Speaker 1: couple of things. Um, I'm from Loveland. Uh did you
Speaker 1: ever Mason Thomas ever play us in the seventies. I'm
Speaker 1: only forties five. No idea, don't act like you didn't
Speaker 1: know that I torched Lovelin Nick, Did you and what
Speaker 1: you've torched us? Yeah? Come on, you own the Tigers? Yep? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Did you have Did
Speaker 1: you have some player a family the Maholics? Uh no,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a tacket or a no no ball.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of the Maholics that played at Loveland? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: no I have Okay, all right, well, yeah you should
Speaker 1: check with them because I've got the research. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, hold on, hold on about about
Speaker 1: the Heisman situation, Yeah, you guys are big bang theories fans.
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe Jim Parsons is to blame because
Speaker 1: this is kind of like Schrodinger's Heisman. M No, I
Speaker 1: could never you know what. Jim Parsons has never done
Speaker 1: anything wrong in my opinion. Yeah, pall the Moholocks may
Speaker 1: have moved after you torched their team for thirty three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't want any part of being in that community. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good athletes there at Loveling Angle. They were tough, tough, Yeah,
Speaker 1: put up thirty five. No, I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: You know, after a while they just went scoreboard. Loveling
Speaker 1: was good. Those are tough players, not as tough as
Speaker 1: the Mason Cummins. Are they cowboys? No, they were the Tigers,
Speaker 1: Loveling Tigers. Yeah, the colors black and something. All right,
Speaker 1: should we take a break here, her curb suit's going
Speaker 1: to join us. Yeah. I never played against Herbie's high school, Centerville.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Herbie played basketball Centerville Elks. I
Speaker 1: remember going up there to scrimmage this Centerville Elks. But
Speaker 1: I'm older than Herbie. But yeah, Herbie went to a
Speaker 1: big time that's a big school, Centerville. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: take a break here. Herbie'll joinnas more phone calls as well,
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Speaker 1: Peacock app. Fritzie b is being accused of being in
Speaker 1: the heist Man. What do you think we lost the Heisman? Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't lose the heisman, we lost the key to
Speaker 1: the Heisman suitcase and Fritzie's being referred to as the
Speaker 1: heist Man. Thank you pretty clever? Yeah? Eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: join us? There? Todd any minute? Okay, any minute? Let
Speaker 1: me get to George in Ohio. Hey George, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind today? Hey? It's all Ohio today, isn't it? Yeah? Nick? George,
Speaker 1: Herbie um Well, Nick brough up An th point your youth.
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to ask you, how old were you
Speaker 1: when you moved away from Zanesville. I was very young,
Speaker 1: and then I moved to Arizona for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: and then I moved back, like fourth grade to Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So I just wondered because I used to
Speaker 1: play a lot of pickup basketball down at the old
Speaker 1: YMCA building, and I thought maybe he was one of
Speaker 1: the kids. Yeah. No, But I went in Zanesville very long.
Speaker 1: I was born there, but thank you, George. And then
Speaker 1: moved to Arizona for a couple of years. Dad got transferred,
Speaker 1: and then moved back to outside of Cincinnati, Yampo, the
Speaker 1: y m c A. And is that where the troupe
Speaker 1: the statue is? No, not anymore, Noah, because I thought,
Speaker 1: and it's not fair to have a statue outside of
Speaker 1: the YMCA. I wanted a better place. I wanted something
Speaker 1: like the town hall, you know, the steps of the
Speaker 1: you know, the city hall or something something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah. Uh, is Herbie joining us to
Speaker 1: any tonson? Todd lost the heisman and he lost Herbie.
Speaker 1: He's having technical issues. Yeah, yeah, Jeff and Detroit. I Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? What up? No? I just
Speaker 1: have a quick question for you guys. What division Clayton
Speaker 1: Manning and be our friends? And then they lost the boy?
Speaker 1: Quick question, real quick? Uh. If you guys do the
Speaker 1: Alabama T shirts with the rat poison on the Seaton,
Speaker 1: I want one. If you got one for it, And
Speaker 1: when you are gonna click up the Christmas song, it'll
Speaker 1: take seat. Baby, let's go. It's Christmas style, you guys,
Speaker 1: Christmas angs out a bit all right? Well, thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna do a rat poison Alabama T shirt? Seaton? Oh?
Speaker 1: It probably should, Yeah, idea, probably, So don't get that
Speaker 1: out there. We got a a Mick Leaving shirt tribute
Speaker 1: for mclovin and that'll be up on the website. So
Speaker 1: if you're happy mclovitt is Leavin, then we got the
Speaker 1: T shirt for you, Mick Leavin. I love that. By
Speaker 1: the way, if you have Christmas ornaments, have the Christmas
Speaker 1: tree behind me, send those in you guys are always great.
Speaker 1: Just keep them fan friendly. If you were friendly, there's
Speaker 1: always a couple in there and you go, Nope, can't
Speaker 1: put that one on the tree. I like it, but
Speaker 1: can't put that one on the tree. Update the poll results,
Speaker 1: then we'll get to Herbie. There sadly, who is most
Speaker 1: to blame. You've run to the lead on this one.
Speaker 1: Todd's still a solid second mark emeric. So I'm being
Speaker 1: blamed for losing the key to the heisman case that
Speaker 1: belonged to Carson Palmer, that contains the high school. You're
Speaker 1: really being blamed for trusting people liked, and I should
Speaker 1: be blamed. It starts with me. Yes, that's what you get.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd rat kurkurb Street ESPN college football analyst Herbie,
Speaker 1: how is your day? I'm good man. How you doing well?
Speaker 1: I've had better days, had a bad day yesterday and
Speaker 1: it's continued today. We've lost the key to Carson Palmer's heisman, uh,
Speaker 1: you know the container, and we sent the box back
Speaker 1: to him. He'd loaned us his heisman for about a
Speaker 1: year and then we sent it back and he wanted
Speaker 1: it for the College Football Hall of Fame induction. And
Speaker 1: he has the case, he doesn't have the key to
Speaker 1: open it up. Oh my gosh, I know what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You can you can't? Is it too
Speaker 1: late to him. Do you know, because you guys do
Speaker 1: the Heisman Show, and do you know if there is
Speaker 1: one key that fits all Heisman suitcases? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: there's only one person that you can ask that too,
Speaker 1: and that's the Commissioner of College Athletics. That's Chris Fowler.
Speaker 1: I have no idea at all how that works. Chris's
Speaker 1: intimately involved in the Heisman. I'm just merely a pawn.
Speaker 1: PAULI can you check with Fowler and Fritzie and just
Speaker 1: see is there a key that will open up so
Speaker 1: I can get this to cars. I don't want him
Speaker 1: to break open that suitcase with the Heisman there. But
Speaker 1: that's that's my problem. You're working the Heisman Show, aren't you. No. No,
Speaker 1: the last year it's it's um. It's honestly a blessing
Speaker 1: because we do Army Navy UM that same day, and
Speaker 1: all these years we would do Army Navy with college
Speaker 1: game day, whether we're Baltimore, Philly, or in this case
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, it met life and then we would leave,
Speaker 1: we go back and you know, you'd love to do
Speaker 1: the Heisman. But Lee and I, you know, we're in
Speaker 1: the back of the room. Ask a couple of questions
Speaker 1: and truly Fouler and the four or five finalists, it's
Speaker 1: really their show. Well, we last year got off of
Speaker 1: it and we got to stay. Or two years ago
Speaker 1: we got to stay for Army Navy and first time
Speaker 1: all these years are doing game Day in the morning.
Speaker 1: Never got to stay and it's such a cool scene.
Speaker 1: And um so no this year I'll be I'll be
Speaker 1: there again watching Army and Navy. Fired up a home
Speaker 1: depot show college game Day. Army Navy will be at
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium. They'll be there this Saturday, nine am until
Speaker 1: noon Eastern. I tell people, if you get any opportunity
Speaker 1: to go to an Army game, I haven't. I haven't
Speaker 1: been to a Navy game at Navy, but I've been
Speaker 1: to West Point quite a few times, and I've been
Speaker 1: to the Army Navy game as well. There's just something
Speaker 1: magical about it. Um you know, when when whenever you
Speaker 1: start to feel bad about who we are or what's
Speaker 1: going on in our country, just go and you see,
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many positive things. We still got
Speaker 1: a shot here, that's true. It reminded of like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, this is incredible, you know, to see these
Speaker 1: guys and girls what they're doing. It's it's impressive. I
Speaker 1: brought this up earlier in the show, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it happens anytime soon. But I wonder, with name,
Speaker 1: image and likeness, like Kenny Pickett, it pitt, what if
Speaker 1: he said to the Peach Bowl, Hey, I don't you know,
Speaker 1: you pay me fifty thousand dollars, I'll play in the game.
Speaker 1: If not, I'm gonna get ready for the draft. That
Speaker 1: it's it's not a meaningful game. And maybe the fact
Speaker 1: that we're going to expand the playoffs here soon. But
Speaker 1: you know, Christian McCaffrey did it what six years ago,
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, people freaked out. You know, Cavon Thibadeaux is
Speaker 1: going to sit out and nobody's gonna care about that.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if does it benefit Kenny Pickett to
Speaker 1: play in this Peach Bowl game. It just depends on
Speaker 1: how you're wired. I'm not going to try to say
Speaker 1: these guys should or should not play. I'm from a
Speaker 1: different generation. You don't like you. I try to do
Speaker 1: the best I can. You know, I have four boys
Speaker 1: that are all twenty one and younger. I mean, I
Speaker 1: get to this generation. It's not like I have my
Speaker 1: head in the sand. But I don't have to agree
Speaker 1: with it. Katy Pickett and pitt Or in Unchartered Waters.
Speaker 1: I mean, you say the Peach Bowl like we're saying
Speaker 1: the Blue Bonnet Ball. That's a huge game for that
Speaker 1: school and for Kenny Pickett, who's the leader of that team.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard him speak. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: his intentions are. But to me, there's something about putting
Speaker 1: on a uniform one last time with your boys and
Speaker 1: going out and competing that outweighs. This is just me
Speaker 1: that would outweigh You just played twelve games, some cases
Speaker 1: thirteen games, and now you're gonna say I'm not going
Speaker 1: to play in this last game to get ready for
Speaker 1: the draft. If that's how you feel, then been more
Speaker 1: powered to you. But I think you have to look
Speaker 1: at at a kind of a case by case basis.
Speaker 1: The fact that Mario Christobal left Oregon, he's the head
Speaker 1: coach at Miami, Thibodeau decides that he's gonna forego. That's
Speaker 1: not really a shocker there. But I would be really
Speaker 1: surprised if Kenny Pickett doesn't play in that Bowl game.
Speaker 1: For Pitt with the year that they've had, What did
Speaker 1: you make of his fake slide um. If I'm a
Speaker 1: defensive coach, I'm gonna I'm just gonna start laying quarterbacks
Speaker 1: out and deal with the consequences, because he clearly started
Speaker 1: to go into slide mode. Give him credit for his instincts.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not really known for his feet and
Speaker 1: his athletic ability out in the open field. He's known
Speaker 1: for what he can do in the pocket throwing a
Speaker 1: ball around. But he got out there and he started
Speaker 1: out as you know, he started to go down and
Speaker 1: the safety's pulled up, and then he recognized that. It
Speaker 1: was almost like you're in practice, you know, in the
Speaker 1: whistle blew and and it was the end of a period.
Speaker 1: But the defender, if I'm a coach and I see
Speaker 1: that film, even if it wasn't my team, I'm going
Speaker 1: to use that as a copy to show, like, until
Speaker 1: he's down, you lay him out. I mean, people, you
Speaker 1: know how it is when a quarterback's in the open field.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like every bunch of great white sharks
Speaker 1: trying to go get some I mean, they're trying to
Speaker 1: not just bring him down. They want to they want
Speaker 1: to end his day, and so, you know, I think
Speaker 1: after seeing that, the reaction I've heard from a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that played defenses. You know, the whole reason
Speaker 1: they got us pulling up is so these guys are
Speaker 1: going to go down and now he pulls out no more.
Speaker 1: You know that that kind of attitude. Why did so
Speaker 1: many people doubt Nick Saban this past weekend? Well because
Speaker 1: we've watched them play all year and they haven't lived
Speaker 1: up to their their own standards, you know, and so
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us thought something's not quite right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bryce's Young's a phenom, Jameson Williams a phenom. The offensive
Speaker 1: line's got has some major issues, not one week or
Speaker 1: two weeks, but all year they've they've had some concerns,
Speaker 1: and Bryce Young's athletic abilities kind of pulled him out
Speaker 1: where he's had to scramble the throw. And now they're
Speaker 1: playing Georgia, the one team that's been consistent all year defensively. Um,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just knew that Saban's team,
Speaker 1: they never show up to a stadium as an underdog.
Speaker 1: You knew they'd have a chip on their shoulder. But
Speaker 1: was it going to be enough to beat that Georgia
Speaker 1: team that we've watched only team all year that's been consistent.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you let up, you survive a game.
Speaker 1: Georgia didn't have that. They were consistent all year long.
Speaker 1: So it was really more of not doubting Nick Saban,
Speaker 1: but the respect you have for Georgia. And then we
Speaker 1: were reminded pretty quickly that's still Nick Saban in his prime,
Speaker 1: standing on that sideline, still knows how to get his
Speaker 1: team ready to play in these big games. So we
Speaker 1: were all I think we apologized on Sunday for doubting
Speaker 1: him Cincinnati. I think you can count on you can
Speaker 1: count on one hand how many times we've doubted him
Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight. Well, you were part of
Speaker 1: the rat poison. I was, Yes, Yes, I'm usually part
Speaker 1: of the rat poison, giving him too much you know,
Speaker 1: respect and too many compliments. Isn't that amaz that Saban
Speaker 1: rails on us if we say nice things about his team,
Speaker 1: and then he rails on you when you don't say
Speaker 1: so he's just using the media. Oh for sure, did
Speaker 1: a great job. He did. He does and I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew he was going to use that and I knew.
Speaker 1: I think about that Alabama roster every game they play,
Speaker 1: coach is guarding against complacency. Literally every game they play.
Speaker 1: You know, the outside noises Alabama's gonna win, They're gonna win,
Speaker 1: They're gonna win. And finally you saw him in the
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl. I mean they very easily and should have
Speaker 1: lost that game to Auburn, who's not having a great year.
Speaker 1: It's a rivalry game. They're down ten nothing like eight
Speaker 1: minutes to go. If Tank Bigsby gets a first down,
Speaker 1: the game's over and they lose in the final minute
Speaker 1: of game. But he comes up a yard short, so
Speaker 1: Auburn has to punt and Bryce Young ends up leading
Speaker 1: him on a long you know, ninety whatever it was,
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown drive in it really a Heisman moment
Speaker 1: for him. But that's how they looked the week before,
Speaker 1: almost stumbling around, and so it wasn't that far fetched.
Speaker 1: But you just knew he would have that. Nobody believes,
Speaker 1: nobody believes you can play with this Georgia team, and
Speaker 1: they showed up. They have not looked like that all year,
Speaker 1: and of course they save it for the biggest stage
Speaker 1: of the year. Talking to kirkkurb Street College Game Day
Speaker 1: will be at Army Naming MetLife Stadium this Saturday, nine
Speaker 1: am until noon, and Herbie also part of the College
Speaker 1: Football Playoff SEMIS in the National Title Game January eleventh.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's chances better chance against Alabama or Georgia. I think
Speaker 1: Cincinnati has a chance in this game because of the
Speaker 1: way they played defense, and I think if they played
Speaker 1: Georgia they would probably have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: better chance just because of the how explosive Bryce Young
Speaker 1: and James from Williams can be in the passing game.
Speaker 1: John Mitchie, you probably as you know that number eight
Speaker 1: he's out. You know he's torn his acl and he
Speaker 1: was such a great compliment to the vertical stretch of
Speaker 1: what Williams could do downfield. He was always underneath on
Speaker 1: flants and little outside routes and just finding space. So
Speaker 1: you got to be worried about about both of them
Speaker 1: because he was more yards after the catch, you take
Speaker 1: that away. Luke Fickle is a defensive oriented minded coach.
Speaker 1: He's got a veteran defense that went toe to toe
Speaker 1: with Georgia one year ago in their bowl game, and
Speaker 1: I think it gave him a lot of confidence coming
Speaker 1: into this year. I think people that are could name
Speaker 1: two players on the Cincinnati roster and probably think Cincinnati's
Speaker 1: gonna get killed. I would be careful there. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't see that. I think Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: you know, Desmond Ritter, the quarterback, has been around, played
Speaker 1: a lot of big games. They've got a running back
Speaker 1: and Jerome Ford, wh who actually was you know, played
Speaker 1: big time football at Alabama before he transferred over, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna show up. It's going to be the shoes
Speaker 1: on the other foot going back to Alabama always being complimented, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're going to win by twenty, no problem, and Cincinnati's
Speaker 1: going to show up with an attitude. Cincinnati's going to
Speaker 1: show up feeling disrespected and will again be enough. We'll
Speaker 1: have to see. But I see that game being competitive
Speaker 1: more so than getting ugly. Is there a tactful way
Speaker 1: for these coaches to leave for one another job, like
Speaker 1: could Brian Kelly have done it differently that would have
Speaker 1: appeased more people? Yeah? I think the challenge I think
Speaker 1: people don't understand is the recruiting aspect of it and
Speaker 1: the timing of the recruiting. The early signing period is
Speaker 1: a week from tomorrow. These athletic directors, you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're running a quote unquote tempo offense to try to
Speaker 1: make a good hire, to get a guy to a podium,
Speaker 1: win the press conference, and then literally walk out of
Speaker 1: that press conference into a high school and start recruiting.
Speaker 1: And so there is urgency on excuse me, the USC
Speaker 1: side or you know, the Notre Dame side or the
Speaker 1: LSU side, there's urgency to try to make a hire
Speaker 1: because you want to get the right guy and try
Speaker 1: to salvage a recruiting class. What we always focus on
Speaker 1: is how does Brian Kelly leave his team like that?
Speaker 1: How does Lincoln Riley leave his team like that? So
Speaker 1: for me, because I talked with a lot of these
Speaker 1: athletic directors and coaches kind of behind the scenes, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, these in the month late latter part of
Speaker 1: November and in December, it's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: game because they want to be respectful of the coach
Speaker 1: trying to finish his season. And you know, in Luke
Speaker 1: Fickle's case, he was so locked in on what his
Speaker 1: team was trying to do. I think ultimately he could
Speaker 1: have had his choices of USC, of LSU, of Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: potentially Voclahoma, and he was so focused on what his
Speaker 1: team was doing. He was letting Jimmy Sexton know, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. I don't. I don't. Well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss out on this job. Okay, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I Really in today's day and age, you got to
Speaker 1: really respect he wasn't just a candidate. I mean he
Speaker 1: was the front runner for every one of those jobs
Speaker 1: and he and he just wanted to finish the race.
Speaker 1: So it cost him all these jobs because of the timing.
Speaker 1: And how do you do it tactfully? I think you
Speaker 1: you finish your regular season. If you go to a
Speaker 1: conference championship, you know, you have your agent or whoever
Speaker 1: talking to the ad say how he's coming. Let him
Speaker 1: get to the finish line. You get to the finish line.
Speaker 1: If you qualify for you know, the playoff, you go
Speaker 1: do your press conference at your new school, you start
Speaker 1: to put the staff together behind the scenes, and then
Speaker 1: you go back and try to finish the playoff like that.
Speaker 1: That's what ideally I would love to see you imagine
Speaker 1: if Notre Dame, if there were some upsets in front
Speaker 1: of them, and somehow some way not to made the playoff.
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman's first game as a head coach would have
Speaker 1: been in a playoff and because of what happened, So
Speaker 1: it's weird. I don't know if there's a the perfect
Speaker 1: way to do it, but but I think the recruiting
Speaker 1: aspect of it and trying to like an Oklahoma's case,
Speaker 1: quit the they were hemorrhaging, you know, losing recruits. Their
Speaker 1: brand was just getting lapped by the day. They had
Speaker 1: to make a hire and do it quickly, and you know,
Speaker 1: they eventually got their guy. But yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's very messy because I think because of the timing
Speaker 1: more than anything. Yeah, I wondered if Oklahoma was going
Speaker 1: to match from what I was told that Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: wasn't going to go to LSU. LSU thought they had him.
Speaker 1: He went back to Oklahoma and said, hey, you want
Speaker 1: to match this, and they said no, and then somebody
Speaker 1: caught wind of it with USC they swoop in and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they hire Lincoln Riley. Oklahoma
Speaker 1: going to regret not matching that LSU offer. Well, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's one hundred percent truth to that.
Speaker 1: I I'm really heavily involved with a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys and the and the agents and ads, and I
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Bond had the most time event, Mike
Speaker 1: Bone had the most time of anybody the ad at
Speaker 1: USC and I think he had kind of his a
Speaker 1: list of five or six guys from from word go,
Speaker 1: which was I can't remember when Clay Hilton got let go.
Speaker 1: I mean it was way way way back, and he
Speaker 1: was he was swinging for the fences from the beginning
Speaker 1: behind behind closed doors. And I know that that Lincoln
Speaker 1: was a name that that he would kind of on
Speaker 1: his dream list of guys like Dabbo and like huge names.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, when exactly Lincoln found out
Speaker 1: is debatable and all that, and I'm not going to speculate,
Speaker 1: but I think Oklahoma felt they did match. They were
Speaker 1: the Sunday after the bedlam. They were doing everything they
Speaker 1: could with Joe Castiglione and their president trying to say, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: let us, let us try to do this. We'll get
Speaker 1: you this, we'll get you that. And from what I understand,
Speaker 1: it was more nothing against Oklahoma and nothing against what
Speaker 1: they weren't doing, and nothing against going eventually to the SEC.
Speaker 1: I think it was just a change. I think it
Speaker 1: was a new challenge going to LA and coaching at USC.
Speaker 1: I think it was just it was more about what
Speaker 1: that had to offer than it was what's lacking at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: So and then you know, they went out and found
Speaker 1: a former assistant and coordinator at Brett Vettibles, And you know,
Speaker 1: I think both sides end up in a good spot.
Speaker 1: But of course we won't really know until we're three
Speaker 1: or four years down the road from now. Not all
Speaker 1: of them. All of them always work out, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: He'd be great to talk to you. My best to
Speaker 1: the guys and have fun this weekend with Army and Navy.
Speaker 1: I thought of you when the Flyers had that big win,
Speaker 1: and anytime UD wins a big game, I think of
Speaker 1: you with with hoops because I go back as a
Speaker 1: kid to Rosie Chapman and and some of those teams
Speaker 1: that they had. You know, I was like in middle
Speaker 1: school and those those UT teams, and I just fell
Speaker 1: in love at a young age Don donnaher and then
Speaker 1: Miguel Night in that group. I mean, UD has always
Speaker 1: been always been a fun brand to watch, an easy
Speaker 1: team to pull for. So that was a great win.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they have a big, a big year this year.
Speaker 1: Thank you her be good to talk to you. Safe travels, Okay,
Speaker 1: Kirk curb Street. Roosevelt Chapman played at Dayton and he
Speaker 1: had a great tournament run. And he was six to four,
Speaker 1: but he could jump with anybody. And he had the
Speaker 1: great nickname with the name Roosevelt. They called him Velvet,
Speaker 1: and there was something magical about him. You know, Dayton
Speaker 1: usually has every couple of years has a run in
Speaker 1: the tournament, and they'll always have a guy who stands out,
Speaker 1: and Roosevelt Chapman was that guy. Correction the National title game,
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl winner versus the Cotton Bowl winner. Monday, January tenth,
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Speaker 1: of that forthcoming by away. The last time Pittsburgh had
Speaker 1: a Heisman finalist, anybody want to guess at this finalist? Finalist?
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's last Heisman finalist, he finished runner up, Paulie I've
Speaker 1: got three names. I think I'm gonna go with Hugh
Speaker 1: Green Green No. Larry Fitzgerald finished runner up in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three. The Panthers last Heisman winner Tony Dorsett,
Speaker 1: who was Tony Dorset back then in nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 1: Michigan's last Heisman finalist Charles Woodson, who won it in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. Alabama's had three Heisman winners since two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, Davante Smith, Derrick Henry and Mark Ingram
Speaker 1: seven finalist over that span. Two have finished second. Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper third. A. J. McCarron finished second. Trent Richardson finished third.
Speaker 1: Who are those stats of the day? Or? I mean,
Speaker 1: what's going on? I was wondering that. I was actually
Speaker 1: I was being ready to hit it, but then you
Speaker 1: sort of gave a who and then you were going
Speaker 1: to move on, So I thought, oh, maybe it's not
Speaker 1: a stat of the day. I heard numbers in there.
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of trivia. Okay, all right, okay,
Speaker 1: never mind, no, no, no, no, I don't want to no, no.
Speaker 1: You know you've had a rough couple of days. Let
Speaker 1: me just day here comes that? What stat of the day?
Speaker 1: Jeff and Ohio joins us. Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind? Hi? Dan,
Speaker 1: retired detective from Ohio. UM been called a couple of times,
Speaker 1: so can you give me to me a nutshell? With
Speaker 1: the fed X issue? We used to handle stuff like
Speaker 1: this all the time with the mail issue. So what
Speaker 1: do we got? Okay, so we have the Heisman case
Speaker 1: with the heisman in it, and it's locked with a key,
Speaker 1: and then we hape the key in an envelope, put
Speaker 1: into another envelope and put it on the side of
Speaker 1: the Uh the Heisman case and the case showed up.
Speaker 1: The key did not, it was the envelope was open,
Speaker 1: and we don't know if the heisman is inside. Oh? Um,
Speaker 1: do we get insurance on it? Do anybody about purchase
Speaker 1: insurance for this? I todd? Did we get insurance for
Speaker 1: the Heisman ship? Not that I'm aware of. No, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Well, we can always blame the lame dug guy,
Speaker 1: which is mcloughin. So he's got nothing to lose, so
Speaker 1: we'll probably just spend it on him. You know, he's
Speaker 1: easily even We can do that. Other than that, we
Speaker 1: got some I don't know DNA. We usually try that.
Speaker 1: FedEx usually has our own police department. They can look
Speaker 1: into it. But I'm a little disappointed in New Dan.
Speaker 1: I sent you a game Warren patch a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a fly in front of you, but
Speaker 1: we'll overlooked at them. What's the game Warren patch from
Speaker 1: my uniform State Highway patroling O High I sent you won.
Speaker 1: So you guys are having the Green Day issues with
Speaker 1: stay in your lanes. I thought it was. I got
Speaker 1: all of these patches. Whenever they come in, I put
Speaker 1: them up here. You know what, Jeff, I gotta do
Speaker 1: some house cleaning here and find out what's going on here.
Speaker 1: So I'll see if I can find your game used patch.
Speaker 1: I said, nobody was losing their job. I gave Dylan immunity,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. You know, George sends in a patch.
Speaker 1: I love the patches that we get. And if you
Speaker 1: have these first responders, the police department, fire department, Yeah,
Speaker 1: seton and who handles the mail? Mario Land I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to do that to young Mario. Yeah, he didn't miss
Speaker 1: that shot, Paulieu. This same sports history, a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys won Heisman's, Dan's Heisman time of year. In nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty nine, the fifth Heisman Trophy was awarded to Nile
Speaker 1: Kinnock from Iowa half back big He was fantastic there.
Speaker 1: Then you got nineteen seventy five forty first Heisman Trophy
Speaker 1: award Archie Griffin of Ohio States and Ernie Davis won
Speaker 1: the Heisman for Syracuse in nineteen sixty one. Bo Jackson
Speaker 1: won his Heisman's right nineteen eighty five. The next day
Speaker 1: I interviewed him in New York at CNN, and Bo
Speaker 1: was not a good interview back then, very self conscious
Speaker 1: with stuttering. Became a very good interview after a while.
Speaker 1: But I remember Bo was shy and he won the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy's first time I met him in nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: five back in New York City. Oh, let's see, what
Speaker 1: did you learn today? Todd Chris sim says pit quarterback
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickt during the fixed light against Wake Fourth made
Speaker 1: him what's a puke? Mclovin? Would you learn that Dylan
Speaker 1: might have lawyered up in this negotiation? Seaton O'Connor, Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick coaches the coaches Paullie another long night for the item. Yeah,
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