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Speaker 1: Oh Stories Breaking. We are live in Chicago. It is

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Speaker 1: the Herd wherever you may be and wherever you may

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Speaker 1: your day. Nick right in an hour Lakers on a heater,

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Speaker 1: I told you all summer in August. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: I said, I have a source inside the building in

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia that I trust implicitly. Someday, if I write another book,

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Speaker 1: I'll I'll put in the source on this. It'll be

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Speaker 1: a good laugh for all of us. And he said,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, tough to coach, not well liked, stubborn, and

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman is very aware of it. Well, what do

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Speaker 1: you know, people are talking, Jeremy Fowler ESPN, it's finally

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Speaker 1: coming out. The truth always does I think largely because

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Speaker 1: there are butts on the line going into the season,

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Speaker 1: including the head coach, Nick Seriani. According to Fowler and

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Speaker 1: multiple sources quote, Jalen has pushed back on changes that

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Speaker 1: would diversify the scheme, including when it comes to him

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Speaker 1: coming under center. More he showed a reluctance to let

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Speaker 1: it rip, particularly against his own coverage. He diverts from

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Speaker 1: the game plan, he changes play calls to what many

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Speaker 1: feel is an excessive degree. This is exact exactly what

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Speaker 1: I was told. And when does the truth come out

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Speaker 1: when people think their jobs are in trouble, when people

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Speaker 1: get replaced, when people are somewhere get blamed for something

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Speaker 1: and they're out of town, they moved to another job,

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Speaker 1: then they'll talk. So and this is a reporter that

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Speaker 1: I trust. So this is what I was told, is

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Speaker 1: that it's starting to feel very Russell Wilson in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: credit and the rosters stacked, and when they do infrequently lose,

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Speaker 1: the roster gets the blame and the quarterback doesn't. If

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Speaker 1: you go back two seasons, Saquon Barkley carried the team,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line was stacked and the defensive line was

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Speaker 1: setting records, but it was Jalen Hirsch getting the tush

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Speaker 1: push Super Bowl MVP, even though we now know over

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Speaker 1: the last two years off bys the Eagles want to

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Speaker 1: throw less, so Barkley didn't get enough love the D

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Speaker 1: line in O line, we're dominating. But who got two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five million, Who's getting the commercials, who's

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Speaker 1: Seattle and GM Howie Roseman very reluctant. If you notice

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Speaker 1: the trade, AJ Brown, I've been saying this for two years.

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Speaker 1: general managers like, that's not the issue. So the truth

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Speaker 1: comes out. We're going into a season where if Nick

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Speaker 1: I mean last year, he was coming off a Super

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia they move off quarterbacks and they move off

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Speaker 1: head coaches that win trophies, that get to Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: So this is really really interesting. And the Eagles, despite

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Speaker 1: a completely stacked offensive roster, were below the Saints last

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Speaker 1: You can't do that with that old line. AJ Brown,

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Speaker 1: this thing about Jalen Hurts where he's always being protected?

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Speaker 1: Look at those numbers. That's worse than the Saints who

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Speaker 1: the Eagle reporter, in November went on seth Joyner, the

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Speaker 3: Those things that dissected on film during practice, those things

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Speaker 1: they start talking. That's the way the game works. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So the Lakers won last night Clawberd Cleveland fifteen and

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Speaker 4: And I know J McK and I talked about this.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it does seem like the Lakers play

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into that. But they want again,

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Speaker 1: Western Conference standings. Okay, c Spurs, Lakers, Denver, Minnesota, Houston Sons, Clippers,

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Speaker 1: You do know who the Lakers want to play. Because

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Speaker 1: the best matchup for the Lakers are the Rockets, because

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Speaker 1: the Rockets don't have a legitimate scoring threat at guard.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Thompson's great, but he's not a refined offensive player.

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Speaker 1: not want to play Minnesota, who clubbed the Lakers last year.

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Speaker 1: perfect team for the Lakers to play. And you saw it,

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Speaker 1: Houston has no true point guard. They're terrible in clutch situations,

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Speaker 1: Lakers are great in clutch scoring. Rockets are not good

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Speaker 1: who's your quarterback. The Lakers have three, the Rockets have none.

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Speaker 1: So Houston's a perfect matchup for the Lakers because clutch

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Speaker 1: scoring matters in the playoffs. Getting into your offense late

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Speaker 1: I think they have the better head coach in Chris Finch.

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Speaker 1: So so last night's fine March is amazing. My take

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Speaker 1: the Rockets, that fifteen to two is going to feel

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Speaker 4: Go like, well, well, what did I watch?

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Speaker 1: What you're watching is a Laker team that has lobsided,

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Speaker 1: Thank god the Lakers have Luca, because if they had

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Speaker 6: It was a confluence of things, starting with health. I

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Speaker 6: of health to sort of not not buy not even

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Speaker 6: We never found that throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: Great styles make great fights is a term that it

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Speaker 1: The Lakers, who they plan that first round this last

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Speaker 1: ten days of the NBA season are going to be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: They are a perfect matchup to beat the Rockets, yet

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Speaker 1: the Tea Wolves could get them huge, huge problems. All right,

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Speaker 1: Jay Mac, I know you have four years been a

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts advocate, devoted Jalen Hurts fan. What do you

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Speaker 1: make of the story that is coming out? I talked

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Speaker 1: about it in August, November, Derek Gunn. Now Here we

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Speaker 1: are in March, where again when multiple coordinators take the

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Speaker 1: hit for Jalen Hurts. And I'm not in any way

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Speaker 1: saying they're a source, but you know how the game works.

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Speaker 1: I remember years ago I broke a story in Portland

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Speaker 1: employee that witst fired, right, Like, that's the way to

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Speaker 1: break story. So, whenever you see a team making multiple

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Speaker 1: changes in multiple years, if you want to, if you

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Speaker 1: their seven figure jobs. They're going to protect their reputation,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna protect their career. And there's been a lot

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Speaker 7: Yeah, clearly it's not a great story. Calling doesn't look

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Speaker 7: amazing for Jalen Hurts. It is interesting. This is the

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Speaker 7: second quarterback we've seen in the last four months who

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Speaker 7: a lot of negative stuff has come out about. Remember

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Speaker 7: the Lamar Jackson story in the Baltimore Sun.

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Speaker 1: Both next thing, you know, local reporters local or maybe

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Speaker 4: Hardball gets fired.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: You guys are trying to get me in trouble.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what happens.

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Speaker 4: You know what there's got to be. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 4: That's sad. Let's make a move Baseball.

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Speaker 5: He was at Duke don't get in his own way.

436
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Speaker 9: But the biggest reason I'm glad we're starting here that

437
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 9: the Lakers look awesome is that all number seventy seven.

438
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 9: Then when he comes up on this show, he's either

439
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Speaker 9: you know, a poor man's Carmelo Anthony or just the

440
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 9: modern James Harden or I'm sure there's some you know.

441
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 9: I don't know if you've broken out even you know

442
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 9: the Alex English comp. That guy scored a bunch, didn't

443
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Speaker 9: play a lot of defense, and you loved him as

444
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Speaker 9: a kid.

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Speaker 5: I know he was your favorite player.

446
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 9: And all Luca's done is win Player of the Month

447
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 9: in January, and now folks are like, oh, he just

448
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 9: started playing good.

449
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 5: No, he didn't.

450
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 9: He was forty five a game in October, granted just

451
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 9: three games the first month of season. Player of the

452
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 9: Month in January had a rough February, and in March

453
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 9: he has lit the league a blaze every single night.

454
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Speaker 9: And what I my frustration was some of the Luca

455
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Speaker 9: commentary and then some of the MVP talk, which I

456
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Speaker 9: know we'll get into, is folks, are I think pretending like,

457
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 9: oh yeah, we thought the Lakers would win fifty four

458
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 9: games and be the three seed.

459
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: Nobody did.

460
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 9: They've smashed their over already. They have the same number

461
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 9: of wins as Boston. They might manage with the third

462
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 9: best record in the entire NBA. Austin and Bron have

463
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 9: missed forty seven games this year.

464
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 5: It's because of Luca.

465
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Speaker 9: He is that transcendently great of an offensive player.

466
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: And I know it can irk some.

467
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 9: Folks because he does yell at the officials a lot,

468
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 9: but he is a once in a lifetime offensive force

469
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 9: of nature.

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Speaker 1: Colin, Yeah, I wouldn't deny that. So I said before

471
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: or maybe the top of the hour, I said, everybody

472
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: talked about Tiger Woods, and then in his prime he

473
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: was better. He was literally better. He was winning US

474
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Open by fifteen strokes. It's insane. And I think Lebron

475
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: frankly is better than people said. I mean, nobody thought

476
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: it the hype. I mean, give me a break. If

477
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: I have said all timely score, you'd be like he's

478
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: a better pastor. I mean he can score and in

479
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: high school twenty at a game, I'm watching Wemby. Okay,

480
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: forget the defense where he literally has like forty five

481
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: more blocks than anybody and alters every possession when he

482
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: is hitting his three, and it's inconsistent.

483
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: Nick I said this yesterday.

484
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: When Lebron came into the league, Lebron did things that

485
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: even Michael couldn't because of his physical stature. Sure, but

486
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: there are some things Michael's does better than Lebron. There

487
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: are multiple things that Wemby does Lebron couldn't do, and

488
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: I never thought I would. Defensively, Lebron can't physically genetically

489
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: you can't do it. And offensively, if Wemby is cutting

490
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: to the basket, if you don't throw bodies at that,

491
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: what's over. The possession is over. I don't know how

492
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: you know.

493
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Speaker 9: Now we've gone to now we've gone too far again.

494
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 9: Now we've now we listen this. Certainly, defensively, Wimby is

495
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 9: en route to being the greatest defensive player, if not ever. Certainly,

496
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 9: since Bill Russell like that would be, and he already

497
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 9: the best defensive player I have ever seen in my

498
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 9: lifetime as a cheim Olajuwan. The second best is Tim Duncan.

499
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 9: And you could argue that Wimby right now is already

500
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 9: better than both of them. Okay, so like that part.

501
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 9: That part is undeniable. But Wimby's here is my And again,

502
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 9: I think Wimby right now is third in the MVP race.

503
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 9: I think the Spurs might be able.

504
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 5: To win the title. I think he is.

505
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 9: A great player, and they have They also have overachieved

506
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 9: in an insane way. Nobody thought they would flirt with

507
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 9: sixty wins, that they'd be the two seed.

508
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: But you are now.

509
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 9: What you just told me is Wimby already can do

510
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 9: things offensively that peak Lebron James couldn't do. I don't

511
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 9: know what a single one of those things is. This year,

512
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 9: Wimby is averaging a whole three more points three then

513
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 9: Lebron in year twenty three, Lebron in third, you know

514
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 9: the Swiss Harby Knight.

515
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Speaker 5: Third opens Lebron's twenty one a game.

516
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Speaker 9: Wimby, who I think you're already comparing to Tiger at

517
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 9: Pebble is at twenty four a game, and like Wimby

518
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 9: is not yet a better offensive player, just offensive player

519
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 9: than Devin Booker, much less a better offensive player than.

520
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Speaker 1: Prime Lebron James. Let's be fair, Lebron was playing forty

521
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: six minutes. Wemby's minutes are minuscules, so per minute, his

522
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: numbers are insane, but they are smartly protecting him because

523
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: seven to four is a body type that's hard to

524
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Speaker 1: keep healthy.

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Speaker 9: So I'm so glad you brought up the minutes because

526
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Speaker 9: Wimby this year is one hundredth in the NBA in minutes. Yes,

527
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 9: he has played five hundred fewer minutes than the guy

528
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 9: I was talking about earlier, Luca, which is the equivalent of,

529
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 9: at thirty minutes a game, sixteen games fewer than Luca.

530
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 9: So that gap in Wimby's defensive impact versus Luca compared

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Speaker 9: to Luca's offensive impact versus Wimby. When you add lucas

532
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 9: played the equivalent of sixteen additional games, that gap must

533
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 9: be just the sides of the Rock of Gibraltar. But

534
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 9: set that aside, I am totally fine with the minutes

535
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 9: conversation being a part of why someone says the Spurs

536
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 9: are going to win the title if they're this good

537
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 9: with him playing twenty nine a game in the playoffs,

538
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 9: when he plays thirty six, then how they're going to

539
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 9: be dominant? I think the minutes conversation belongs there. If

540
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 9: people want to say, this is why I think Wimby

541
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 9: is going to be the greatest player of all time,

542
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 9: because think about when he plays thirty four to thirty

543
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 9: five minutes a game, I think that's fair. If people

544
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 9: want to say I believe Wimby could average thirty a

545
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 9: night if he played heavier minutes, I think that's fair.

546
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 5: I do not think it is.

547
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 9: Fair or with any precedent at all, to use his

548
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 9: lack of minutes as an argument for him to be MVP.

549
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 9: MVP is not a hypothetical award.

550
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: It is not a projection award. And I think when

551
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 5: you have.

552
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 9: The season Shay is having and the season Luca is

553
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 9: having to say, yeah, but what if Wimby was playing

554
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 9: as much as them? He's not, And one of the

555
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 9: taxes of not playing as much typically is you don't

556
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 9: get all of the awards. Now, maybe they'll win the

557
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 9: title because of it, but I don't love the extra

558
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 9: credit for not playing, which some people want to give

559
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 9: to Wimby because everybody loves him. I mean, the pr

560
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 9: this French kid who's never won anything and comes here

561
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 9: and says, we play ethical basketball and they I mean,

562
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 9: it's unbelievable. Everybody's like, you know why the All Star

563
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 9: Game was fixed because of Wimby?

564
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.

565
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 9: I know the Americans beat him twice.

566
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: I don't know.

567
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 9: I just know that this guy. Can you imagine just

568
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 9: thought exercise if next year and year three, having won nothing,

569
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 9: but he had won a playoff game. If Caleb Williams

570
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 9: is asked around week thirteen, hey what do you think

571
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 9: about you in the MVP race? And he goes right

572
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 9: at Matt Stafford's throat and he's like, well, we dominated

573
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 9: him when we played them. I think actually, completion percentage

574
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 9: is an overrated stat and here's where es capability really matters.

575
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 9: That's why I'm the MVP. You think the media would

576
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 9: be like, man, love the gumption on that kid, And

577
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 9: did you see the nail policy out on when he

578
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 9: said it. No, Wimby comes here and it's like, here's

579
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 9: why I'm the MVP. The thunder, the defending champs. We

580
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 9: dominated them. It's my award, and everyone's like, wow, refreshing.

581
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 9: It's an odd media double standard with the seven foot

582
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 9: six French kid.

583
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: That's all I'm.

584
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: Saying, go ahead, that's funny.

585
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: So it's a I got a couple of things, let's

586
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: do Yeah, let's do this one.

587
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: Let's do this one. So we all know that.

588
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's career because he took so many shots big Ben. Similarly,

589
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: they age very quickly. A Brady who avoided sacks, practice

590
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: how to get sacked last forever right McVeigh and Stafford

591
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Stafford McVeigh McVeigh. You know, he finds fifth rounders that

592
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: help Stafford. He's elevated his career. He's a better Ram

593
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: than he was a Lion. He was good with both,

594
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: but he's great now. And I look at the Knicks

595
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: and it's a really Jmak brought this up.

596
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 4: I love Jalen Brunson. He's my favorite.

597
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Nick Ever Ewing second, Carmelo Well, Bernard King Ewing. Yeah,

598
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: but he's small, he gets attacked on the defensive end.

599
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: He is completely high ball centric. He's aging fast. He

600
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: doesn't feel this year as good as last year, and

601
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: My take is this is why the Knicks have to

602
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: go after Yannis. They'll both be on the same timeline

603
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: for different reasons. Yannis injuries is aging Brunson. Stylistically. We

604
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: know this usage right, you have to go back to

605
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Jordan number one. Usage rate won entitle. It wears guys down,

606
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: and Brunson doesn't quite feel quite quite as good as

607
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: last year.

608
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 4: He's not going to age.

609
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't think terribly well based on stylistically, being attacked

610
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: and having the ball. The Knicks have lost three straight.

611
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: You can blame what you want. Let's talk. We'll do

612
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: what we got a couple minutes here. Why are they

613
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: suddenly not good? And the Brunson idea that go get Yannis?

614
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: And the primary reason is your best current player's career

615
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: is going in about three years to not look the same.

616
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Speaker 5: So I think that I.

617
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 9: Don't want to be too harsh on the Knicks because

618
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 9: I do think that they are they have a puncher's

619
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 9: chance to come out of the Eastern Conference. But the

620
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 9: fact that I have relegated them to puncher's chance makes

621
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 9: this season already close to a catastrophe. They were with

622
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 9: obviously with Indiana punting on the season, Boston was we

623
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 9: thought going to be and you know, in flux for

624
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 9: a year they beat Detroit in the playoffs last year,

625
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 9: we thought that this was the nixt moment to at

626
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 9: least make a finals, the first finals this century, and

627
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 9: instead they feel to me like a third tier contender.

628
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 9: Like that, you would you have the top tier for me?

629
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 9: I know some would argue, but is okac kind of

630
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 9: by itself, but then also San Antonio, Boston, and I

631
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 9: have the Lakers, and people with someone would have the

632
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 9: Lakers in the next one.

633
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: That's fine. And then the next.

634
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 9: Group to me is Denver, Minnesota, Detroit, and then you

635
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 9: get to Cleveland the Knicks, and that's that's really really

636
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 9: disappointing for the next and not where Houston would be

637
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 9: in that group, not where they're supposed to be. And listen,

638
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 9: maybe Brunson's been an excellent playoff player. Maybe they can

639
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 9: you know, have an upset in round two and then

640
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 9: upset Boston round two and change the narrative entirely. Obviously,

641
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 9: I agree with you. If they could get Yannis. I

642
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 9: think Giannis at least in the short term, makes every team,

643
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 9: basically every team better. But they traded so many of

644
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 9: their assets for bridges that I think that's going to.

645
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 5: Be a hard trade to execute. Can I throw a.

646
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 9: Different Can I throw a different option at you?

647
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: Okay?

648
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 9: Well what if you could just you know, add a

649
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 9: guy who's proven he can immediately become the best Swiss

650
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 9: army knife in the league for very little money for

651
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 9: a final year in the league and Lebron James.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think it can be. Like I think on

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Speaker 4: this team, you don't have to and you don't.

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Speaker 5: It was right.

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Speaker 9: Brunson is playing the Luca Lebron can like. Lebron probably

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Speaker 9: is better served with a slightly higher usage than he

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Speaker 9: has now in LA because he's deferring not just to

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Speaker 9: Luca but to Austin. But he's proving I can fit anywhere,

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Speaker 9: and if I am asked to do less on offense,

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Speaker 9: I can help you more on defense.

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Speaker 5: Be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lakers could say, hey, can we have bridges in

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Speaker 1: that deal?

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Speaker 4: We could use it. We could use a wing to fence.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if they'd have to trade it. The

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Speaker 9: thing is this, Lebron's a free agent. Lebron can just leave,

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Speaker 9: and I know that it's all happy, go lucky right

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Speaker 9: now in LA and I think that they have I

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Speaker 9: think that Celtics are my pick to win the title.

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Speaker 9: I would go Celtics my first pick, Thunder my second pick.

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Speaker 9: And then I think the Lakers are right there with

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Speaker 9: San Antonio as far as chances with Denver lurking. But

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Speaker 9: we are not far removed from Genie Boss telling anyone

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Speaker 9: that will listen, you know how annoying it's been having

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Speaker 9: to deal with this part of Lebron's career. So I

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Speaker 9: don't know that he'll be back with the Lakers next year,

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Speaker 9: and I think the Knicks are a pretty good fit.

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Speaker 1: All right, First things first, after our show, I got

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Speaker 1: to touch on this, so I said in August, I

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Speaker 1: had somebody who I trust that had a very good

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Speaker 1: relationship with Howie Roseman and the Eagles tell me Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts is not well liked, he's hard to coach, can

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Speaker 1: be stubborn.

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Speaker 4: And then in November, Derek.

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Speaker 1: Gun a reporter in Philadelphia, respected reporter, came out and said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's patting the ball, he won't run the place. Then

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Speaker 1: today Jeremy Fowler, respected journalist, comes out and says it's

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Speaker 1: a problem, and everybody in the building knows it and Nick,

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Speaker 1: because the Eagles go through so many different coordinators. You

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Speaker 1: know how people protect their careers. If you want to

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Speaker 1: find information, go find somebody that got fired replaced. They talk,

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles just run through coordinators and they're very

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Speaker 1: aggressive with players and front office people. You and I

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Speaker 1: have always and I think, like Brock perty kind of

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Speaker 1: doubters on this. I said earlier, it feels very Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson hirts gets the credit when they win, none of

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Speaker 1: the blame when they lose. You know, Pete Carroll preferred

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Speaker 1: the run game, Nick ser Nick Serrian, He's like, let's

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Speaker 1: throw less. That's not nobody's doing that with Mahomes your

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Speaker 1: take on the Story of the Way today that was

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Speaker 1: unveiled about problems in Philly with Hurts.

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Speaker 9: So I think the Russell, the Russell Wilson comp is

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Speaker 9: the one I've leaned on for quite some time, where

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Speaker 9: that neither was a first round pick. Both you know,

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Speaker 9: went to multiple colleges. Both nobody questioned their leadership or

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Speaker 9: unique talents as a scrambler or as a rusher at

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Speaker 9: the quarterback position, but there were questions about being able

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Speaker 9: to pass every quadrant of the field. Also, the odd

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Speaker 9: part of both of their best pass was the deep ball.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of similarities between the players, yes, but

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Speaker 9: including a ton. Everywhere they went one a ton and

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Speaker 9: they did have that it factor, which I think matters

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Speaker 9: played a lot of their best games in their biggest moments.

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Speaker 9: That's particularly true obviously historically with Jalen, but I also

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Speaker 9: think that one of the reasons AJ Brown in consecutive

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Speaker 9: seasons could light that locker room on fire and remain

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Speaker 9: popular amongst his teammates is because I think guys are like, well,

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Speaker 9: somebody's got to say it. I'm glad AJ will take

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Speaker 9: the hit for us. I'm not saying Aj handled it

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Speaker 9: the right way, but if everyone thought AJ Brown was

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Speaker 9: as out of pocket as the media thought, he would

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Speaker 9: not have had the support within the locker room that

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Speaker 9: he did seem to have. And I think that the

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Speaker 9: Eagles listen. Jalen Hurts played Patrick Mahomes and back to

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Speaker 9: back Super Bowls and the first one played excellent, came

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Speaker 9: up short, and the second one played the great and

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Speaker 9: they trounced my Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: He will always have that.

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Speaker 9: You can never ask questions can you win with Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 9: They did win and they at one point won like

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Speaker 9: twenty one out of his twenty two starts.

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Speaker 5: That's all true. It's also true.

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Speaker 9: That you need a special in my opinion, you need

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Speaker 9: a specific type of team to have peak success. With Jalen,

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Speaker 9: he had that. I don't know that they have it anymore.

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Speaker 9: And if he doesn't evolve as a more mature, pure passer,

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Speaker 9: I think that they could have similar struggles and the

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Speaker 9: Eagles move off coaches and quarterbacks and coordinators Like you say,

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Speaker 9: Howie Roseman, it's also Jeffrey loriie. So I do think

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Speaker 9: this is a critically important moment in Jalen's career. And

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Speaker 9: whenever you read an article where it says we talked

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Speaker 9: with twelve team sources right after the owner's meetings and

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Speaker 9: then the coaches meetings with the coach team VHOTO, it's like, man,

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Speaker 9: there's a lot of noise in that building about jal

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Speaker 9: and having some culpability for what went.

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Speaker 5: Wrong last year.

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Speaker 1: Nick right long segment, We we just we just you know,

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Speaker 1: you made a couple of good points, so I kept you.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 9: That's why you know what, That's why I strive just

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Speaker 9: one percent better every day.

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Speaker 5: Colin great to see you.

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Speaker 1: My friend Nick write First Things First, and a heck

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Speaker 1: of a podcast as well, for a very reputable company.

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Speaker 4: I will say that