1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: You got to keep moving forward in this game. I 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: love Hosy. He's a great person, great picture, but we 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: don't have him right now, so we gotta we gotta 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: keep moving forward. All right, Welcome back to Balatatory. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: But we are here with Brad Thomps and Phillies manager 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: who has taken time out of his his busy day 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: to talk to us for Jerola here, Kratz, Todd Frazier, 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: h Rob how are you? Thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: joining us here today. 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: You m. 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh geez, you got all the stories? Can you tell 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: us all the quick? We only have a certain amount of. 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Time, Robbie, guys. 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 4: Copper. Who's is KG holding the camera for you? I've 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: never seen this. You're usually you're in that age demographic 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 4: where when when you call into the show, we're seeing 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: up here, we're seeing up your nostril, KG holding the 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: camera for you. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: I got this new fangled computer and and there's a 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: camera on top of the computer. 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: Topper you are. I'm so proud of you, not just 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: because just because you're not just because you're hip, but 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: because you figured out a way to change what was 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: going on. All these all these managers this year are 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: getting fired all these managers are getting fired. You were 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: there when Joe got fired and you stepped right in. 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: We talk about it all the time on the show. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: Did you change the message that was being sent or 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: did you just say I'll just move one slot to 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: the left and now I'm the manager in the dugout? 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't know exactly what happened. I 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: do know this that you know. It was the first 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: of June when I took over, and the month of 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: May was probably the toughest month as far as our 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: opponents for concern, and then the month of June was 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: probably the easiest month of you know, as far as 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: competition was concerned. We just got on a roll. And 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: I think, you know, anytime you have a managerial change 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: or a head coaching change, I think you'll see a 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: spike in in wins and performance for a little bit, 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: and then usually the team falls back to where they were. Well, 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: we had a pretty easy schedule and we just got 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: on a roll and everybody got confident, and we just 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: rolled through the year. 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: Can you talk a little bit about baseball, and you know, 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 5: you were an assistant coach for a while, now you're 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 5: a manager. The Ebbs and flows of the game, which 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: I think people don't understand. You know, you come out 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: the gates, you know, you're not where people are in fans, 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 5: They're like, oh the Phillies, what are we doing here? 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: You know we're blaming everybody else. But can you can 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: you talk a little about you know, ebbs and flows 53 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 5: and how you know, some players come out hot because 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 5: you guys are you guys are doing it right now, 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: but a little bit ago it was a struggle. 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're probably going to another struggle at some point. 57 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: That's the way the game is. And it happens team wide, 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: and then it happens individually as well. And I think 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: that most players have three or four times when they 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: go through a season, as they're going through a season 61 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: individually where they struggle, and at any given time, you're 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: probably going to have two, three, four guys in a 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: lineup that are struggling at the same time, and then 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: it changes back and forth. It's a fascinating game that way, 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and you know, the people that that can handle it 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: mentally and emotionally are the guys that are going to 67 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: succeed because it is so difficult. And I always tell 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: my wife and I always tell my kids and I 69 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: always tell my friends. The moment that I forget about 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: how hard this game is is that's when I got 71 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: to go. 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: Have you guys have such an interesting owner in John Middleton. 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: I mean I've been at play off games where he's 74 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: picking up balls after vps giving them the fans. Like 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: lots of guys will say we want to win, he 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: proves it, he backs it. He he acts like a fan, 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: but he also spends like a fan as well. He's 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: not afraid to say winning is important. This is our window, 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: Like I can leave another legacy to my grandkids than 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: just money, right, Like I want the Phillies to win. 81 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: I want to have that championship. How much does having 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: an owner like that kind of permeate down to your 83 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: level and kind of maybe impact the culture of what's 84 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: going on in Philadelphia. 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: Well, John, John's great because you know, I usually don't 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 1: see him very much during the season, and he usually 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: doesn't come down to the clubhouse. But his passion for 88 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: winning is off the charts. 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I think The one thing that we talked about 133 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: during the offseason and in spring training is controlling the 134 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: strike So that is the one big message, and that's 135 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: not really just set up for the playoffs. That's set 136 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: up on a daily basis to hopefully get us there, 137 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: and that works on both sides of the ball, on 138 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: the mound and at the plate. So that's the one 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: big message that we've talked about, and I think our 140 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: guys have done a really good job at it during 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: the season. My biggest focus is today in this series 142 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: that we're going to play because we got to get there. 143 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: And so you know, we play fifty two series every 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: year and I tell the players and staff every year, 145 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: if we win thirty, we're going to get in. So 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: that's our goal. We got to win thirty series. And 147 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: once we get to the playoffs, if we get there, 148 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: then we'll start talking about that. But right now, we 149 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: got we got a game tonight against a really hot 150 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers club and we got to take care of business. 151 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: You guys talked about the strike zone and understanding and 152 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: like controlling the strike zone. How soon was it that 153 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: you noticed that the ump zone a little bit tighter, 154 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: a little the buffer zone. You know, supposedly Majorleague Baseball's 155 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 4: pulled everybody, but not everybody knew at the same time. 156 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: We knew because we knew that, you know, we had 157 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the ABS system in spring training and luckily in Florida, 158 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: like almost every game we played was under the ABS system. 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: So and I think I think it got people locked 160 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: into the not just the players, but the umpires as well, 161 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: locked into the strike zone and gave them pretty good 162 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: reference as to it's a strike and what's the ball. 163 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: And so I think in particular for us, I think 164 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: it helped us quite a bit because that's that's what 165 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: one of our goals was, So, you know, I really 166 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: think that was part of it. I think part of 167 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: it is our hitting coaches and how they stressed it 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: in spring training and throughout their drill work and and 169 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: post mortems after games and things like that. And I 170 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: think our guys doing a pretty good job at. 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: We had Ruben Tomorrow Junior on the show fairly recently. 172 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: He was talking about Bryce Harper, you know, comes back 173 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: so quickly, how he's just a guy who doesn't bruise 174 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: or swell as much. And when I covered the Orioles 175 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Buckshowalter used to always say, well, this guy's a fast healer. 176 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: Is there credence to that? Are there guys who are 177 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: faster healers than other guys? I know Bryce works hard. 178 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: I know that factors in it as well. And do 179 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: you really feel nervous or do you have like the 180 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: sense of maybe throwing an elbow guard at him so 181 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: he can put it on when he's on the when 182 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: he's if they're at the plate now, or or how 183 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: nervous does. 184 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: That make you? Yeah? I think everybody heals at a 185 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: different pace. You know, it's just you're probably in your DNA. 186 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but every time Harp has had 187 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: some type of injury, he seems to come back fairly quick. 188 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: So and we haven't seen him today, so I don't 189 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: have an update today. But yeah, i'd like him to 190 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: wear an elbow guard. You can't force the guy to 191 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: do it, because I think one of the one of 192 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: the reasons why he didn't wear it is he felt just, 193 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little bit restricted by it. So 194 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see where we go once he once 195 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: he gets back swinging the bat. 196 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: I want to ask a little bit about Jose Alvarado. 197 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 5: How have you guys been without him on the mound 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 5: a little bit. You know, I don't have to dive 199 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 5: deep into situation. But you know that trust factor too 200 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 5: as well, has got to play a part in it too. 201 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: I would assume, yeah, and you know, and I said 202 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: from the get go, it's it's a loss, no doubt, 203 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: because at the time that we lost him, he was, 204 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, one of the best relievers in baseball. But 205 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: we have the I think we have the arms here, 206 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: and the stuff here and and the makeup here. You know, 207 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: to to pick up the pace and pick up the 208 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: pieces and guys will step up and get it done. 209 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: And so far, so good, knock on wood. But yeah, 210 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: Hosey's Hosey's a loss. But you know, I tell you 211 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: guys all the time, you can only control what you 212 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: can control, and worry about only about what you can control. 213 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: And you got to you got to keep moving forward 214 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: in this game. I love Hosey. He's a great person, 215 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: great pitcher, but we don't have him right now, so 216 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta keep moving forward. 217 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: You talked about getting the team through today, but at 218 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: part of a manager's job is to making sure you're 219 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: fine for tomorrow too. How often or how much do 220 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 4: you fight back against that? I don't have one here, 221 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: but the bullpen card that you have, Like, I get it. Hey, 222 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: you know what, this guy's not thrown three days in 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: a row. It's just it's what it is. This guy 224 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: can't How often do you have to fight against it? 225 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: But do you fight against it more than the pitchers 226 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: fight against it? 227 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: Well, I make out my own bullpen cards so special, 228 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't think. Well, I've been doing it for a 229 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: long time and my number one goal is I mean, 230 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: obviously it's to win, but we got to keep people healthy, 231 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: and we got to give them the proper rest and 232 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: at the same time get them into games enough to 233 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: keep them sharp. So there's a there's a balance you 234 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: got to strike there. And it's on my mind every day. 235 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: And I think the picture. I give the pictures more 236 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: days off than they want. Let's put it that way. 237 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: So they want to throw and you don't let them play. 238 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: I get it. 239 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: You take the ball away from him and they don't 240 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: get to play. But you're not equal to That's the 241 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: bullpen guys. Yesterday, or maybe it was a day before, 242 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: Wheeler said, hey, is it too late? Is it too 243 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: late coach head coach Rob if I throw Game two 244 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: instead of Game one, and you told him, Ah, you 245 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: know what, you do whatever you want. You're Zach Wheeler. 246 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: I don't think you ever go to Ryan Kirkering and say, 247 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 4: oh Ryan, you're O. 248 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: Ryan him that I told the media that, oh you 249 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: didn't do that. Well. I had called Zach and I 250 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: said which game would you like? And he said the 251 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: day game? And I said fine, So I called her 252 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: our media people and like two minutes later he called back. 253 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: He said, is it too late to change it to 254 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: the night game? And I said, no, it's not too late. 255 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: I'll just give him a call back. 256 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 4: So there's nothing to it. There's nothing where you know 257 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: what he wanted to He saw Sale and he's like, 258 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: I want to go up against the Ragining s Young. 259 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 4: So everyone knows that I'm going to win the sy 260 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: Young this year. 261 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the reason was, 262 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: but because I didn't ask him, but I just know 263 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: that he called back almost immediately and asked to change 264 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: it to the night game. So it's no problem. 265 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: Awesome, Well, thanks so much. 266 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Rob. 267 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: I look forward to when the Phillies are in the 268 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: DC Baltimore area. Hearing all the off the record stories 269 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: about Crassy and Todd, hear from you so yeah, book 270 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: a little time. 271 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you over awesome. 272 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Rob, We appreciate it.