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Speaker 1: All right, guys, a lot going on this morning that

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Speaker 1: ground that Israel has significantly escalated their strikes and their

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and start with this first element. The

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Speaker 1: first sign that we got that a lot was going

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Speaker 2: Put this up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: This reads this phone call is from a journalist stationed

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Speaker 1: in al Oxa Martyr's hospital. We have no idea what's happening.

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Speaker 1: There is no connection, no Wi Fi, no reporters. We

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Speaker 1: The sky around us just lights up with explosions. No

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Speaker 1: campaign unlike anything that they had seen thus far. And

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Speaker 1: a moment, but a significant raid into Gaza itself, we

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Speaker 1: what the fallout from this is. We have no idea

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Speaker 1: in terms of casualty numbers yet. I haven't seen a

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Speaker 1: what is reported to be some of the aftermath of

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Speaker 1: Let me put this last part up. Israeli mechanized forces

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Speaker 1: remain inside Gaza Saturday morning at this hour, after launching

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Speaker 1: according to an IDF spokesperson. They are also claiming sobern

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is a very confused situation and

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Speaker 3: it's very difficult. You and I were talking a little

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Speaker 3: The IDF, with the mechanized forces that remain inside of

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Speaker 4: Combat, or in small arms fire.

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Speaker 3: So that means that they heavily bombarded these three separate

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Speaker 3: look like this is a leveling campaign of sort.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of different ways to.

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Speaker 3: Read it, which is that they're going in and they're

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Speaker 3: blowing up infrastructure so that infantry and ground forces could

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Speaker 3: come in, occupy that position, root out any militants, take

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Speaker 4: That's one way.

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Speaker 3: The other way is that this is a massive show

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Speaker 3: the military effectiveness, I mean, we simply have no idea.

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Speaker 4: Hamas has not.

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Speaker 3: Confirmed any number of casualties. They were bizarre really claiming

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Speaker 4: That's just obviously not true.

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Speaker 3: We don't know though, if they took zero or not

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Speaker 4: It could we be could read it that way.

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Speaker 3: We could read it as one way that they're going in,

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Speaker 4: Be like, look, world, we did it.

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Speaker 3: You know, we leveled for whatever, some percentage of the city.

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Speaker 3: We took out all the infrastructure. Specifically, a lot of

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Speaker 3: You know, we can wrap it up, we can declare victory.

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Speaker 3: And then the other way is that this is just

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Speaker 4: For all of us to you have any idea of

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Speaker 4: what the hell is going on.

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Speaker 3: We just saw the news break this morning, Crystal that

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Speaker 3: internationally recognized humanitarian aid organizations inside of Gaza. That is

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Speaker 3: a great, great step forward because up until this point,

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Speaker 3: Israel had not allowed starlink access over any of their territory.

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Speaker 3: So this is at least one way where we might

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see the extent of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you need telecoms for the ordinary residents,

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Speaker 1: you need telecoms for the hospitals that are still operating there.

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Speaker 1: You need comms for the journalists who are on the

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how widespread the access here is based

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Speaker 1: on his definition of internationally recognized aid organizations. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Of course they never throw withhold the aid or do

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Speaker 2: You know, I think there's been.

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Speaker 1: A lot of reporting coming out about how the US

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Speaker 1: that it could very well easily spark that larger regional war,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating to watch them basically behind the scenes being.

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Speaker 4: Like please please, please please, please don't do it. Just

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Speaker 3: Basically try and recreate US Joint Special Operations Command, which

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Speaker 4: That is not the reality anymore.

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Speaker 3: And I believe it is because of the extensive experience

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Speaker 4: And then on top of that, more.

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Speaker 3: Civilians were killed than all of the ISIS fighters combined.

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Speaker 3: So they took thirty thousand and that's one to one ratio.

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Speaker 3: And I've laid this out before. This is with the

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Speaker 3: completely different scenario. And we've got fifty thousand fighters instead

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Speaker 3: of eight to ten thousand ISIS fighters, the sheer scale

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to take fifty thousand casualties in order

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Speaker 3: to accomplish this goal. The polling already out coming outside

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Speaker 4: I think because they can see.

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Speaker 3: Reality and these are their sons, these are their brothers,

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Speaker 3: half the country or whatever has been called up for service.

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Speaker 3: You have some five hundred thousand people. This is a

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Speaker 4: Through with it.

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Speaker 3: So all I think reality is all starting to hit

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Speaker 3: put this up there on the screen. As we had mentioned,

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Speaker 4: We don't know yet.

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Speaker 3: What that will materialize or look like. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: There are already reports.

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Speaker 3: Our service members a lot of a lot of places

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Speaker 4: There's just no question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if the civilian casualty ratio is one to one,

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Speaker 1: To your point about the civilian death toll before this

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Speaker 3: If there is a necessary one for tomorrow, we will

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Speaker 4: But otherwise we've got a Monday show.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the premium subs who enable us to

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Speaker 4: But anything else, Crystal.

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Speaker 1: I think that wraps it up as far as we

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Speaker 4: All right, We'll see you guys later