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Speaker 1: I thought I was insane. Yeah, and I didn't know

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Speaker 1: my name is Kat. I'm a human first and a

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Speaker 1: licensed therapist second. And right now I'm inviting you into

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Speaker 1: conversations that I hope in orage you to become more

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Speaker 1: around you. Welcome to You Need Therapy. Welcome guys to

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Speaker 1: a new episode of You Need Therapy Podcast. I am

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Speaker 1: quick reminder that although I'm a therapist and this week's

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Speaker 1: Now let's get into these cool announcements. The first one,

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Speaker 1: And for those of you who don't know what four

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the litmus test of is

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00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: this true self care for me right now or not?

433
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: If I'm like getting all these facials and massages and

434
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: hanging out, having wine nights with the girls and spats

435
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: and all these I mean, like all very fun yet

436
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: very expensive. And also, you know, maybe that self care

437
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: for you in the in the season that you're in,

438
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: or maybe it's just a distraction. Yeah, And so it

439
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: also becomes the question of like, am I running towards

440
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: myself or am I running away from myself? Oh my god, Okay,

441
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: I just threw so much I have I even wrote

442
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: some notes down because I'm like, oh my gosh, this

443
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: this this so. I first of all, I'm obsessed with

444
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: the idea of rebranding self care self compassion. And I

445
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: think that we can see this if we study language.

446
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: Language continues to change because as we continue to use language,

447
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: the meanings kind of get convoluted, and self care is

448
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: something that I think the meanings have gotten a little twisted,

449
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: and it does make so much sense. Like I love

450
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: that quote. Will you say the quote about what do

451
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: you say home and the opposite of whatever that was?

452
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: We say it again? Yeah, it's Ellie. We sol why

453
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: so I can't remember how you say it, but she

454
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: says the opposite of home isn't distance, but forgetfulness. Okay,

455
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that. That's so good. It's Oh that

456
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: is why I feel like self care is so It's

457
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why it's so hard I think

458
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: for some people to do is because the things that

459
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: are promoted of self care really might not be or

460
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: have anything to do with somebody actually getting closer to themselves. Yeah.

461
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: When you said that at first, the picture I had

462
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: is I've recently been doing like a little art project

463
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: like elementary school. But I've been like looking forward it

464
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: to it so much and I can get lost into

465
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: doing it for hours and it's nothing special. And to

466
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: some people that might be like, oh, that looks like

467
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: so much work and like I would hate doing that,

468
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I feel so relaxed. I feel like

469
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: kind of like a kid. I feel like I don't

470
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: have to worry about anything. I am not judging the

471
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: work I'm doing. I'm like, oh, this is funny, this

472
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: is cute, this is whatever, and it it feels it

473
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: feels very restorative. It feels like I'm integrating like different

474
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: parts of myself together as I do that, Like the

475
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: part that is uh, I'm doing like a little grap

476
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: book thing and something I did when I was really

477
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: like in like middle school and stuff I used to

478
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: do like these collages and stuff, and I was like,

479
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: I want to do something like that again. So I

480
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: think I'm integrating these old parts of myself. I'm integrating

481
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: my relationships and um, these memories that I'm putting together,

482
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: and that sounds so exciting to me. I'm all for

483
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: getting massages sometimes that actually feels like work to me

484
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: right now, like actually being there and getting the massage

485
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: and in the middle it's great, but like having to

486
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: schedule it and going to the point man waiting, and

487
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: then like I don't like to go to places by

488
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: myself all the time. And then so I think that

489
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: is like some people might not identify with that stuff.

490
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: It's because that's not what self care is. And the

491
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: other thing I thought of I used to explain and

492
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: I still think it can do this integrating kind of

493
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: what you're teaching me. But I used to explain that

494
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: there's a difference between self care and self maintenance, where

495
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people thing if there are universal self

496
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: care activities, but they all come down to like pampering

497
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: kind of things or even like why night with a girls.

498
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes that is for somebody who is less social, that's

499
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: work for them. But there are things that we have

500
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: to do to maintain our health in our bodies, health

501
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: and our minds, health in our friendships, health in any relationships,

502
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: and those things some of them that come to mind,

503
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: like getting my nails done or going to get my

504
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: hair cut, or going to like a I don't have

505
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: one of these currently, but if I had like a

506
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: monthly get together with my group of friends, like if

507
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: we had some book club or something like that, those

508
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: can be really good. And also, like things like drinking

509
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: a green juice, those are not bad. None of those

510
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: things are bad. And some people love those things and

511
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: some people don't mind them, but that doesn't like fill

512
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: them up. It's kind of like a check mark. And

513
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: so there are things we have to do to maintain

514
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: how we want to show up appearance wise. I have

515
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: to get my nails done so I don't rip them

516
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: all off. I do like what they look like, but

517
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons I do that. And like,

518
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: if I'm going to drink a green juice, I would

519
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: never choose that because I just love drinking green juice.

520
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: But I might be like, oh, I haven't had a

521
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: vegetable in three days. I need to do that. And

522
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: that is a way of caring for yourself, I think,

523
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: but it bleeds into this maintenance phase. For me. More

524
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: self care is something kind of like what you're talking about,

525
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: where it's actually bringing me back to the core of

526
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: who I am, not how I want to appear to others.

527
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: If I didn't have to worry about nutrients, I want

528
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: to never be tricky to green joices, so like that

529
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: to me is that self care. Does that cut make

530
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: sense when I'm saying no, I love that that delineation

531
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: between maintenance and self care and bring in the language

532
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: piece that you mentioned earlier is so important as well.

533
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: At in different cultures, this means drastically different things, right,

534
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I think we have to really just

535
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: understand kind of the high level, like hit the high notes,

536
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: and then personalize it and make it true for us.

537
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: But I do think what you and I are talking

538
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: about that's really important is the difference between kind of

539
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: escapism indulging and true restorative self care. Right. And this

540
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: idea of the maintenance is almost like sometimes that kind

541
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: of falls maybe in the middle, I don't know, but

542
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: it's that kind of way of taking care of ourselves

543
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: and our health and you know, doing the things day

544
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: to day that just feel good and and and I

545
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: think that self care maybe the difference that I would

546
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: kind of draw out is that self care might be

547
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: on a deeper, more kind of internal self relational space,

548
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: and then kind of the maintenance kind of is like

549
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: a byproduct of that, right, And it's not bad, it's

550
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: just a little different totally, you know. I think something too.

551
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: That a good question, and I think this is where

552
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: the angiogram really ties into true self care, because we

553
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: have to really know and understand ourselves in order to

554
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: love ourselves well and know what we need. And I

555
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: think knowing what we need is really four pronged. It's physical,

556
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: it's emotional, it's spiritual, and it's relational. And so really,

557
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: when we kind of create our version of what is

558
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: restorative and really helpful self care for me, it might

559
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: look different and different seasons based on what I'm needing physically, emotionally, spiritually, relationally.

560
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: So I think I think that we can really flesh

561
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: it out and create um simple yet really powerful self

562
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: care practices that hit all four. Yeah, okay, so can

563
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: you walk us through how getting to know your Instagram

564
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: type and how learning about that can influence you being

565
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: able to identify like you kind of would get to

566
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: know yourself a little bit more through that, so then

567
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: you can actually identify that what you need part like

568
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: how that can help and how that looks different for

569
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: different people. Absolutely, and this is also what we're going

570
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: to be digging into quite a bit in this little

571
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: workshop that we're about to start talking about. So if

572
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: this sounds kind of out of reach or not as clear.

573
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: We're going to dig into this and just a little

574
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: bit um in our conversation, but just for starters, let's

575
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: just take you and I for example, Like you are

576
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: anagram type seven. You've kind of fleshed out a little

577
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: bit of what that means. Hyper relational, extroverted, more kind

578
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: of assertive in nature, innovative. You bring the juice and

579
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: the energy, very magnetic personality, highly creative, fast thinking. You

580
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: kind of operate from this more cognitive or headspace. Your

581
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: need in life is kind of the motivating need is

582
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: to avoid pain most of the time, to get out

583
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: ahead of it. For me, as a type four, I

584
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: am more reserved in nature, more introverted in nature. I

585
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: tend to be a little bit more withdrawn energetically, and

586
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: I really love kind of going deep. I'm not turned

587
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: off by scary emotions like melancholy or even sometimes depression.

588
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: Like I can sit in there and and kind of

589
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: like move around in that a little bit. Whereas the

590
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: type seven, well, I'll say, in like more of an

591
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: unintegrated type seven is they're wanting to get way out

592
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: ahead of that pain. Um so to avoid it and

593
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: so like for me, this driving kind of motivating need

594
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: in my life is to find significance and self expression

595
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: and to be seen as special and unique. And so

596
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: I want to unpack both of those types because there's

597
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: different energies going on there, there's different needs, there's different

598
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: motivators happening. For you, that's to be kind of up

599
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: and out, and for me it's kind of like to

600
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: be in and down. So part of my self care

601
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: is gonna look a little bit different for me, to

602
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: to kind of grow beyond some of the limiting parts

603
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: of my personality that can get in the way self

604
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: care can integrate. The work of integrating and coming home

605
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: to the truth of who I am can look much

606
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: different than what that looks like for you as a

607
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: Type seven. So here's maybe an example. Maybe for you,

608
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: some self care might look like what you just explained,

609
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: doing something on your own right, coming into yourself and

610
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: going within and and spending time doing something creative. Right

611
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: For me, like something that's really arounding out, if you will,

612
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: and integrating practice for me is to kind of like

613
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: be done with the navel gazing already and kind of

614
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: get outside of myself and maybe connect with a friend

615
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: for a walk, right, that becomes really nourishing to me.

616
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: And of course I love the alone time in the solitude,

617
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: and I can meditate myself into a dizzy. But for me,

618
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: self care might look much different as a type four

619
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: than self care might look for you as a type

620
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: seven in this avenue, because you got me thinking oftentimes

621
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: self care, we just have these like blanket self care

622
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: things are like that's for everybody, And one of them

623
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: that comes to my mind is spending time with friends. Yeah. Uh,

624
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: where you're saying, as a for something that might be

625
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: self care might be to go on a walk with

626
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: a friend, not go to a huge party, but go

627
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: on a walk with a friend. Would it be true

628
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: that oftentimes that would be the opposite of what I

629
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: would need because I spend so much of my time

630
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: being in that space, and I can be so exhausted

631
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: by even though a part of me enjoys it, absolutely,

632
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: But enjoying something doesn't then equal self care exactly. You know.

633
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I think what self care is also trying to do

634
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: is get us out of our autopilot. Right, So auto

635
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: pilot for you, like this habitual just kind of kind

636
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: of autopilot is being around people that is so much

637
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: a part of your personality type structure, and it's a

638
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about you, and it's not all there is

639
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: to you. So part of integrating, the integrating part of

640
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: self care for you as a seven might be, you know,

641
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: exploring more solitude it in downtime and connecting to the

642
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: beauty of all different kinds of emotions and doing that

643
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: in creative ways that are again restorative for you. We're

644
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: not wanting to like put you in a torture chamber, right,

645
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking now I have to admit something because

646
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: I love puzzles like I love them. I love puzzles

647
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: like I love them. I haven't done one since Christmas.

648
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: I ended a couple during Christmas, but I am so

649
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: obsessed with them, and at times I would have to

650
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: argue with myself if there's something to do with friends

651
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: that I'm like working on a puzz, I'm like, oh,

652
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: I just want to stay home into my puzzle. And

653
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: I think a little subconsciously I have been demonizing that

654
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: part of me and kind of like self deprecating that

655
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: part like l O L, like I'm a grandma, just

656
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: or saying, like, what's wrong with me? Like why do

657
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: I go to stay home and do this versus like

658
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: go hang all these people or call my friend or whatever.

659
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: But I love I love it like I love it.

660
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: And so what I'm saying all this because something has

661
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: been different, like that is different than what I am

662
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: used to doing. The autopilot thing shot this up in

663
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: my brain, Like my autopilot is you want to feel better,

664
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: go hang out with a friend, or you should hang

665
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: out with people. Being social is better. Isolating is not good,

666
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Like you are a people person. That's my autopilot. But

667
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: autopilot is not always the correct way to fly. Yes, yes,

668
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: And so even hearing you say that to me, it's like, oh,

669
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: I need to give myself permission to listen to myself.

670
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: There's so many things that I want to just praise

671
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: you for in that because honestly, cat like for you

672
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: as a seven, integration for a seven often looks like

673
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: the higher aspects of type five personality and vibes are

674
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: really comfortable with the lone time with downtime. So that's

675
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: such a natural progression for type sevens as they really

676
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: do the work of the angiogram and do the work

677
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: of self care. Is they allow themselves that space to

678
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: practice solitude and to stay home and to miss out

679
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote, you know, it goes from like that phone

680
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: mode to the joemo right, It's like there's all the

681
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: sudden this joy and missing out. And I will say this,

682
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: it took me, I think, learning about the Instagram to

683
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: really identify this because I think I try to push

684
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: it away so much. Being a therapist and being a

685
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: seven is very challenging for me personally. I think that's

686
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: maybe where someone my savior complex came in. When I started,

687
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: all I wanted to do is make people feel better.

688
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Like if I don't want to sit with people in

689
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: their feelings, I wanted to what are you feeling? Okay,

690
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: you don't want to feel that, Okay, we're gonna get

691
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: out of it. That's how we're gonna do it. And

692
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: then as I learned, oh, that's not really a very

693
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: helpful way to be a therapist, I started, you know,

694
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: sitting with emotion and being really present with people and

695
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: getting in in the middle of all of the sorrow

696
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: the fear of the sadness versus running away from it.

697
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: And while that has I think been very helpful for

698
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: clients and has been very helpful to develop myself as

699
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: a therapist. It has made work. Although I love it

700
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: and I find a lot of joy in it, it

701
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: is hard in a different way than like, I mean,

702
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: everybody's job can be hard in its own way. I

703
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: went to UM site visit at a treatment center maybe

704
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: like five years ago. I was talking to these different

705
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: therapists at lunch and kind of talking about kind of

706
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: our schedules and how we do things, and one of

707
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: these therapists said, oh, I see eight clients a day.

708
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: And I literally shopped my fork and it was like,

709
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: what like every day, five days a week for eight

710
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: clients to And I felt at first this rush of

711
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: like shame, I think, because I was like, my sweet

712
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: spot is like four or five. And while they might

713
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: make more money than me, I'm like, I'm a good

714
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: therapist when I'm seeing four or five clients a day.

715
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: I can go to six, But anything over that, I

716
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: know I'm not giving good care to eat, even the

717
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: first client or the last one, because the first one

718
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gonna be such a long day,

719
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: and the last one I'm like this had been has

720
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: been such a long day. But then when I get home,

721
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: I am just spent, like completely spent. I don't find

722
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: joy in that. It makes me question my job. That's

723
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: when I have those moments where I'm like, should I

724
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: be just working at like the post office or something?

725
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: And it's not because I'm a bad therapist. It's not

726
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: because therapist should all be seen eight clients a day.

727
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: What I learned is, oh, this feels different to you

728
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: than other people. So you're pushing through different things that

729
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: other people might just want to sit in all day long.

730
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: And that is not a bad thing. That does not

731
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: make you being a therapist the wrong job, but it does.

732
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I think kind of what I'm hearing now, it um

733
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: influences what you're needing after a work day. Where some

734
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: people might love to go to happy hours and meet

735
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: up with their friends after a work day. I sometimes

736
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: make plans and most of the time want to cancel

737
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: those plans if they're during the week, because all I

738
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: want to do is go home and do my puzzle

739
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: or watch a TV show and zone out. Or I

740
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: hate talking on the phone with people. If anybody listening

741
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: to who's my friend? You know, if you're calling me,

742
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: you better text me and tell me why you're calling.

743
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: Me because I'm not just going to answer the thunder chat.

744
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: It's that feels after work so exhausting. And I used

745
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: to think it was just about my line of work.

746
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: But when I when I heard that other therapists feel like, well, no,

747
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: I can see eight clients a day and I love

748
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: it and I could do it every day, I'm like, oh,

749
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: it's not my line of work. It also has to

750
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: do with who I am as a human being versus

751
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: you are a different person than me. Yeah, and it

752
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: also might have to do with different stages in life too. Yeah.

753
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: That is so. I used to see so many clients

754
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: and I won't see I do, won't see more than

755
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: four day. Yeah. No, it's like m X and I

756
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: can sit all day in those dark emotions and be

757
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: happy as a clum, but I can't serve a client

758
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: in the way that I want to if I'm doing

759
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: it all day every day. Yeah. So I Yeah, I

760
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: love this conversation because what I'm getting a lot about

761
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: out of it, and I'm sure I'm going to have

762
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: all these things pop up in my head as I

763
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: go throughout my day, but I'm getting out of this

764
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: is oh my gosh, let what you've learned about who

765
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: you have kind of trained yourself to be, and how

766
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: you've unlearned some of those things that aren't necessary anymore.

767
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Let that actually impact what choices you make. Because I

768
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: think it's exactly what you said earlier about application and knowledge. Right,

769
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: I've learned all these things. I feel like I feel

770
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: like one of my clients right now. I've learned all

771
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: these things, but like I have to use that as

772
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: I make decisions throughout my life as what's the point,

773
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: right and so, rather than oh, this is good, because

774
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: I wonder how you do this as a My mind

775
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: is all over the potas right now, but I wonder

776
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: how you do this as a therapist because a lot

777
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: of clients will say, I might recommend you it sounds

778
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: like you need to some self care, like we need

779
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: to slow down a second, Like you have a homework assignment.

780
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: They'll say, okay, what should I do? How do you

781
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: help a client figure that out for themselves versus you

782
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: just listing one of those general activities. Yeah, I mean,

783
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: I think there are some baseline practices that we can

784
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: all benefit from in self care, and two of those

785
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: right off the bat that every single type I mean

786
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: it's it's part of myself care practice every day, depending

787
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: on kind of how much time and hunt, but moving

788
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: your body and writing journaling. It's getting into your body,

789
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, because you know this doing so much work

790
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: as a therapist and and just being so brilliant and

791
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: research and and and just such a learner that you know,

792
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: trauma lives in the body, our emotions live in the body,

793
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: and part of our primal right as human beings is

794
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: to move. Yeah. Well, I like that. It's not about vanity,

795
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: it's not about staying at a certain weight. It's about

796
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: a primal right that we have as human beings to

797
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: move our body because we're created the way we are

798
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: and we have to process all that we go through

799
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: from day today. That is such a good I want

800
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: to pause on that for a second. Way to say

801
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: that we have a primal right to move our body,

802
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: like you are created to do this and you are

803
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: allowed to do it, versus you should do this right?

804
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: That feels very kind. Does it also feels very inviting? Yeah?

805
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and that can look different ways. At the

806
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: self Care workshop, we talk a lot about mindful movement.

807
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: Coola is going to talk and teach us all about

808
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: trauma in the body and how it's stored, and what

809
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: mindful movement is. Something that I also think can be

810
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: very unhelpful is mindless exercise, right, so super high impact.

811
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm all for high impact. I mean, I don't really

812
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: do it a lot, but like, if you want to

813
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: go run ten miles and that is restorative for you,

814
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: do that. But for me, it's all about movement that

815
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: connects us back into the present moment, that connects us

816
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: into our bodies. There has to be intentionality in the

817
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: movement that you're doing, whatever it is, right. I like

818
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: that you said that because I don't want to send

819
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: the message that movement isn't self care, because it's something

820
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: that's easily thrown out. But what I think I'm learning

821
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: is the movement that is self care. For you might

822
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: be impacted differently based on who you are where. For

823
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: me self care, it might be really good for me

824
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: to do some yoga, because I'm the kind of gal

825
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: who's going to a group fitness class and hanging out

826
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: with all my friends. But what I've been learning more

827
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: recently about myself is when I go to those fitness classes,

828
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: I want to go sit in the corner so I

829
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: have to make I contact for people, But what I'm

830
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: needing is time to move my body with my slow

831
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: It would only be fair to go to a place

832
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: that that is the goal is to connect with you

833
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: versus there's plenty of places that one of the goals

834
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: of the of the studios is to create community, and

835
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't always want that. Yeah, right, okay, So you

836
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: said one of the things is movement. What was the

837
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: other one? The general self care? Oh? Writing or journaling

838
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: the other thing I was gonna say when you said

839
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: that kind of the same vein. Would it be true

840
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: that like some people their self care is going to

841
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: have this journal where they write every day about experiences

842
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: in blada ba blah blah blah blah blah. But some

843
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: people's form of journaling might be their Instagram grid and

844
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: writing little blurbs about things, or I have a Google

845
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: doc on my computer. But journaling and writing it it

846
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be one way of doing it, and

847
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: that's the self care way. Whatever is going to get

848
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: your butt in the chair. I mean, you could be drawing.

849
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: Ali talks a lot about, you know, people who just

850
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: really are resistant to writing for self care. You know,

851
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: she's an author and a writing coach, and she'll say,

852
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes she'll just encourage people to start off

853
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: and just doodle on a page. And I love this,

854
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: like whole idea of kind of stream of consciousness, just

855
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: sitting down and dumping. You know. It's like the morning

856
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: pages and out of that great book, The Artist's Way.

857
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, I think there's so much power

858
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: in putting what is internal on an external surface. There's

859
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: a transfer that happens, and I don't know all the

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Speaker 1: brain science behind that, but I know it's powerful and

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Speaker 1: I know it works. So in the workshop that you

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Speaker 1: guys are doing, all of this is going to be

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Speaker 1: talked about in detail for each type of person. Correct,

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Speaker 1: yate create correct, Okay, two ideas merging. It's a mashup. Basically,

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Speaker 1: this workshop that we're talking about is called the Self

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Speaker 1: Care Workshop. It's happening in Nashville, Tennessee, on February, which

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Speaker 1: is just a month away, and essentially we are meeting

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Speaker 1: from nine in the morning until about thirty in the

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Speaker 1: in the evening. And during this day, myself and two

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Speaker 1: of my dearest friends, Ali Fallon, who is an author

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Speaker 1: and a writing coach, and then Coola Callahan, who is

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Speaker 1: just remarkable yoga teacher. I always been on the podcast

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Speaker 1: before and she's awesome. People ate up everything she said

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Speaker 1: and nice. I had a conversation this week with the

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Speaker 1: client who's who just got her book. She's incredible, coolest class.

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Speaker 1: I just have to say this, I don't think she

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Speaker 1: knows who I am, because I only think I went

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Speaker 1: to her class, like twice, I didn't know who she was.

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Speaker 1: I just went to the classes that worked with my schedule,

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Speaker 1: and I remember taking her class and being like I

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Speaker 1: feel so relaxed, Like I don't feel like I'm in

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Speaker 1: the space where I have to act like I'm a

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Speaker 1: yogi because I have no freaking clue what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: She was like eating a granola bar in the beginning

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Speaker 1: of class, and I was like, this is nice, Like

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Speaker 1: it's just it was just so like she seems like

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Speaker 1: a regular person that I can actually learn from in

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Speaker 1: the sense that like I can connect with you. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that I get and it's my

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00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: own stuff, but like intimidated because I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing. Welcome, That's what I mean by all of that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's a riot. She's a genius and she's

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Speaker 1: my favorite yoga teacher of all time. I mean, she's

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Speaker 1: just so good. So we're going to start out in

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Speaker 1: the morning about really digging into aniogram. What the angiogram

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Speaker 1: is a lot of what we've talked about today, but

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Speaker 1: we're going to really unpack it by type and talk

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Speaker 1: about self care for every single type. Right then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do some yoga with Coola. She's gonna kind of

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Speaker 1: take us through yoga flow and really talk to us

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Speaker 1: about movement. We're gonna have a nice, delicious lunch, and

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00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: then we're gonna come back and we're gonna do the

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Speaker 1: writing segment of the day, and then we're gonna do

904
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Speaker 1: some breakout sessions, so we're gonna get into groups and

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00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: we're going to support everyone that's there and creating their

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00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: own self care plan for the rest of the year essentially,

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00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: and then we wrap up the whole day with a

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Speaker 1: dance party. I have a DJ so for the Type

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00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: sevens out there, it's going to be a lot of

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00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: and there there's a little happy hour at the very end.

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00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a lot of self care, a

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00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: lot of self discovery, a lot of learning and connecting

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Speaker 1: with other women, and there's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Had to Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with this. It's

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Speaker 1: just the one day. It's in Nashville, February, and it's

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Speaker 1: a limited number of people right so, and and there

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Speaker 1: are some some spots available, but I would act fast.

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Speaker 1: This is the other bonus is that Lululemon is kind

919
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: of underwriting the event. They are sponsoring it. So they

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Speaker 1: made a donation that allows us to offer this workshop

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Speaker 1: at a much lower price than we would normally have

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Speaker 1: to charge. And so there's payment plans available, Like, there's

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Speaker 1: no obstacle, there's no reason that you can't come. If

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Speaker 1: you want to go, you should be able to. You

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Speaker 1: want people to be able to go, absolutely if you

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Speaker 1: want to go, and you can make it happen. The

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Speaker 1: reason I said there's a limit of spots. If you're

928
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Speaker 1: hearing this and you want to learn more and you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of this event, like head

930
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: to the website that's in the show notes. You can

931
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: just click on it. You can sign up to do

932
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Speaker 1: that now. Because the more you think about it and

933
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Speaker 1: the more you wait, the more spots are gonna be full. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So okay, I love this. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: doing this. I can't wait to have fun conversations. I

936
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Speaker 1: was telling Katie before we started, I want to keep

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Speaker 1: this too. I say this, this is behind the scenes

938
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Speaker 1: to everybody listening. I say this to everybody. I'm like,

939
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: I want to keep this to like thirty five minutes.

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00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: We can do forty five if we need to. And

941
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: then I always I'm talking to people for like an

942
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Speaker 1: hour and a half and I'm like, okay, like, well

943
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Speaker 1: it's the wrong. Well it it shows. It just shows

944
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: that the energy and the passion is there, and it's

945
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: hard not to talk to you for more for less

946
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Speaker 1: than an hour because you're just so delightful and have

947
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: such amazing energy, and you just have so many good

948
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: things to say. When I do solo episodes, I can

949
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: keep them really short. But when I'm having these conversations,

950
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing so much thinking in my head and I'm

951
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: learning about myself. So I'm like, wait and to protach

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Speaker 1: to this now, forgive it. So thank you for doing

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00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: this again. Everybody who's listening, you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Everything is in the in the show notes,

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Speaker 1: you can follow Katie on Instagram. I'll have that linked.

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00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: I'll also link Ali and Kola's Instagram. Well you can

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00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: know who's going to be there and kind of put

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: a face to their names. And yeah, if you have

959
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: questions about anything, happy, have questions for Katie, you can

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Speaker 1: email me Katherine at You Need Therapy podcast dot com.

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Speaker 1: I will try to answer those. If I can't, then

962
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: I'll send them to Katie and she can answer them

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00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: and I'll find a way to get you the answer

964
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Speaker 1: you're looking for. You can follow the podcast at You

965
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: Need Therapy Podcast. You can follow me at cat dot

966
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Speaker 1: do thought on Instagram? And do you want to shout

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00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: out your website and guest in case people can't go

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Speaker 1: look on their phone. Instagram is at Katie Gustufson dot co.

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Speaker 1: And that's k A T I E g U S

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Speaker 1: T A F s O N dot ceo. And then

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Speaker 1: my website is the same, It's Katie Kustafson dot com. Beautiful.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much, so welcome. Thank

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Speaker 1: you