1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World hours at the 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Star in Priscilla, flowing to the lives and now your hosts, 5 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. 6 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: It's the Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys as I'm line 7 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: from inside the Ast WBC Mortgage Studios, and we're back 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: and better than ever nine thirty every weekday morning as 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: we preview the Atlanta Falcons and the Dallas Cowboys, a 10 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon matchup. It's Week two, Episode three. Isaiah stand Back, 11 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and the great Heck Harrison joining you as always, 12 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's and guys, it's it's Wednesday, and Isaiah, 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: I've got a little bit of a bone to pick 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: with you, my friend, because I was told, I was 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: told by by you yourself, a former teammate of one 16 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: certain Earl Thomas, that he would be a Dallas Cowboy 17 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: by now, and that there would be movement on that front. 18 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm looking at the clock and I'm 19 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: seeing man, it's September sixteenth, it's a Wednesday. Where is Earl? Isaiah? 20 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Where is Earl? And I want to know why there's 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: no Earl Thomas. Kyle. I have a response for you. 22 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Kyle's the heck of a question. And I had a 23 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: feeling that it was coming, being that I have my 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: crystal ball. At times I feel as if my crystal 25 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: ball got a little murky, Right, he got a little murky, 26 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: did it? And it got murky? It got murky in 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: the form of of of of injuries this past week 28 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: that really took really took the helm. It really kind 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: of took over, overshadowed what should have been all Pro 30 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame currently in his prime safety in the 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: name of Earl Thomas, that should have been in addition 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: to this team yesterday. But because of the injuries at 33 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: right tackle, because of the injuries at linebacker, because of 34 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: our inability to stop the ball being ran up our throat, 35 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: our inability to block the inside, I think that's become 36 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: more of a president to address more than signing this 37 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: current Hall of Fame player. Oh what happened? Was hppened? Yeah? 38 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like that a little bit. Uh, Yeah, 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: so that's the I guess the big no news story 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: of the day is that we are into the point 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: where veterans contracts are no longer guaranteed for the remainder 42 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: of the season. Unless priorly noted. But Earl Thomas is 43 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: not a part of the Dallas Cowboys. Neither have the 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys really done a whole lot in terms of starting 45 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: caliber players that have been brought in, but Rob there 46 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: were plenty of moves made yesterday in terms of guys 47 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: being brought in off of other practice squads. The Cowboys 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: were very active on waivers. Kind of run through some 49 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: of those moves in what kind of impact they have 50 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: in terms of the Cowboys this week. Yeah, I guess 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't make moves to fill starting positions, right, 52 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: but they did because they talked about in house, and 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: I guess they aren't doing that, but it's gonna be 54 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: guys already on the roster of taking more snaps. Most likely. 55 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: They did address a couple of spots with some practice 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: squad poachings, if you want to call it that, Alex 57 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: Light offensive tackle off the Cardinals practice squad and linebacker 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Rashad Smith off Chicago's practice squad. He's a rookie free 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: agent out of FAU and so you know. Also, oh, 60 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention Brandon Carr as we're talking about 61 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: veteran DBS. He's on the fifty three man roster now 62 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: I assume for the rest of the season unless something happens, 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: and we'll see what his workload is going to be 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: this week. But hey, three open spots with three guys 65 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: headed at two. I r not only Latent Vanderesh and 66 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, but Cam Irving as well with a spraying knee. 67 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: So all three out for a minimum of three weeks. 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: We know vander Esh is out for about six to eight. 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Jar went out for the season, and we'll see what 70 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: happens with Cam Irving. But trying to get some tackle 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: depth there as well. And I'm a little surprised they 72 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: didn't go with you know, Francis Bernard maybe as a 73 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: call up from the practice squad. They go with Rashad 74 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Smith instead. Well, we only heard the last thing you said, 75 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: and that was instead, so I'm sure I'm sure it 76 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: was awesome. Oh man, Yeah, okay, all right, I just 77 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: let me do a quick recap for you. Fellas. Alex 78 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: light Rashad Smith, and Brandon Carr are your call ups, 79 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: two poachings from the practice squad from Arizona and the 80 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Bears car gets called up three guys the ir Jarwin 81 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: Vanderesh and Cam Irving for a minimum of three weeks 82 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: for Irving, so we'll see what happens. They're gonna have 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: to fill some things in the house apparently with their 84 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: starting spots, but they add some depth from other teams 85 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: and Smith RASA. Smith is is a guy that I'm 86 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: familiar with, and it sounded like to me rob he 87 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: was someone that our scouts had targeted prior to the 88 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: draft and obviously wanted to get him, but the Chicago 89 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Bears plucked him away from us, and to me, coming 90 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: out of Florida Atlanta, he was a guy that would 91 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: fit perfectly into a three four scheme. So I'm really 92 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: interested to see how he's going to fit into the 93 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys scheme. Yeah, I think he is somebody that's going 94 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: to be interesting because you talk about the instead of 95 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: you have excuse me, instead of having Francis Bernard, you 96 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: go with him instead. That's the term that I'm kind 97 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: of pointing at right now. Is the fact that you 98 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: still didn't call up Francis Bernard. I know that's what 99 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: really the media and those who were watching training camp 100 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: and everybody's kind at least relying on or at least 101 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: that was the first thought that popped in our head. 102 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: But Rob, why didn't they go with a guy like 103 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Francis Bernard? I guess maybe we just overestimated his training camp, 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe maybe we did in a few 105 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: different spots as well, you know, in terms of how 106 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: guys looked in practice, and then it didn't carry over 107 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the game. I think they like him, but obviously, like 108 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: as Hekma said, Smith's a guy that they liked coming 109 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: out of school. And you look at his production in college. 110 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: He's only about two hundred and twenty pounds, but he 111 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: is a fly around, make plays guy. I think he 112 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: had over three hundred tackles in college. So, you know, 113 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: but it's gonna Kennie plays special teams, and how effective 114 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: is he on special teams? And if he's gonna be active, 115 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: obviously they must feel good about that, Oh Rob, That 116 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: is app sole fact, Old loot Lee the truth when 117 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: it comes down to what they're doing at the linebacker 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: because Francis Bernard would have to play a special team. 119 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: So maybe that made the difference between going with him 120 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: over Francis on It might have been the difference. And Isaiah, 121 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: I know you're a guy who's who's played on special 122 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: teams before, and is there really that kind of that battle. 123 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I know, especially early in the weeks. We talk about 124 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: it in training camp all the time, and we mentioned 125 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: it in training camp, but whenever it comes into that 126 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks of the season, if you're a 127 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: practice squad guy, you really got to up your special 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: teams game, correct, absolutely, I mean special teams is huge. 129 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we we spent a lot of 130 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: energies talking about offensive defense, but uh, there's the other 131 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: third of the game that's kind of important in terms 132 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: of field, in terms of not only the scoring points, 133 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: but just field it. You know, just just field a 134 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: position right where where we're at on the field. You know, 135 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: a simple play such as a punt. You know, we 136 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: saw it last week, you know where where the Cowboys 137 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: were given some great field position because of because of 138 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: their punter freaking boot at the ball doing there at 139 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the stadium. Um and and that those things matter and 140 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: then being able to cover on those plays matter. So 141 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: if you're a you're a practice squad guy, I mean, 142 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: you know you're going out there during your week of practice, 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to show that guess what this starter, 144 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: whoever else I'm facing in practice, you know they're not 145 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: as good as I am in this regard, and you 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: guys need to make some room for me. And hey, 147 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: I will say this about Francis Bernard. Guys for the 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: second straight week. You know, you get to protect four 149 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: or your practice squad guys from being you know, signed 150 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: from another team. He's been protected two weeks in a row, 151 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: so obviously they like him. But you know, I guess 152 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Smith really stood out to him as an option. One 153 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: other note on Alex light the offensive tackle. He played 154 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy in twenty eighteen, So there's some familiarity 155 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: there and some insurance there, I guess, depending on what 156 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: they do. Obviously you got Terrence Steele and you got 157 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Knight potentially as a tackle option. Two. Now I'm 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: glad you mentioned that, Rob because you're talking about offensive 159 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: tackle and you're mentioning the depth and the backup plan 160 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: at least as Alex Light is concerned about this Cowboys 161 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: offensive line, and really they were graded the third worst 162 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: offensive performance from an offensive line by Pro Football Focus 163 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: in Week one. I have a couple of questions for you, guys, 164 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: and you might be able to take this one way 165 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: or the other way. You may agree or disagree. But 166 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I was kind of playing around with a depth chart 167 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: this week, and I was looking at the Cowboys offensive line, 168 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: and of course Connor Williams kind of struggled as a 169 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: left guard this past week. He had the right guard spot. 170 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: Of course, Zack Martin he's going to be he's locked 171 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: in Joe Looney a center. What would you think about 172 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: potentially putting a Connor Williams back out at right tackle, 173 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: which is really what he played throughout his career at 174 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Texas in college, and then throwing maybe a Joe Looney 175 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: or a Connor McGovern at left guard, and then having 176 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Biattish play center or even a Connor McGovern play center. 177 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Is there any objection to that or what's what's so 178 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: difficult about doing something of that kind of shifting around 179 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I sensed an objection from Isaiah. 180 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: I want to hear in no disrespect. This is where 181 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: just just our opinions, right, Um, however, you oh, how 182 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: can I address it? Connor Williams, Yes, I'm being um. 183 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he had say so much of Unfortunately Connor Williams 184 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: face arguably the best defensive alignment in the league, which 185 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: he did this past week. Right, So that's that's we're 186 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna give him that benefit of the doubt. He got 187 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: ragged dog. He got disrespected. Zeke got disrespected, exact, Martin 188 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: got disrespected, Looney got disrespected. Everybody got disrespected by this, 189 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: by that gentleman. So we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna 190 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: act like that didn't even happen. Um, But what what 191 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: you're suggesting? Um, he got disrespected with help on both 192 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: sides of him. Correct, he had a left tackle and 193 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: he had a center. Correct, he had he had right. 194 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: So we had big Smith on the left and we 195 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: had big Looney on his right. He still got ragged dog. 196 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: So you're suggesting that we put him on an island 197 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: in the NFC East conference where there are some dogs 198 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: out there that we're gonna be facing. And I really 199 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: want to kind of speak to the Washington Redskins maybe okay, 200 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: and you want to put him on the island by 201 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: himself to fin for himself where he can get rag 202 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: dog and potentially have a straight line to your franchise quarterback. 203 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Is that what you're suggesting. Well, the Cowboys don't play 204 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: the Redskins until Week eight, and by that point I'm 205 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: hoping that Lyle Collins is back at right tackle because 206 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: I still think come back, I'm mostly talking about Atlanta Seattle. No, 207 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: maybe I get it, Kyle, that was man, Kyle Yeoman's 208 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: that's a great conversation piece. But no, I don't think 209 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. I don't think that that's what you 210 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: want to do. And also with stell this, going back 211 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: and watching the tape of steal Man like, he did 212 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: a serviceable job. I know we're gonna talk about later 213 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: possibly getting him some help with with tight ends to 214 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: the right of him as well, but he didn't do 215 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: as bad a job as making Connor Williams your right 216 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: tackle and champ Like you said, Connor Williams won't have 217 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: to go against ninety nine next week and the week thereafter. 218 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: All right, that's a one time deal, hopefully into the playoffs. 219 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: But still, but still we understand how that is in 220 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: and also the one thing about it is Looney is 221 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: your veteran center. Hea. You gotta go with that. And 222 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: I think that experience, especially with the abbreviated preseason and 223 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: everything else, you just that that that's definitely gonna keep 224 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy up at night with a rookie center. So 225 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: I think this out of comfort right now. We just 226 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: got to give it another week For Connor Williams. I 227 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: think he's gonna come around. We also have to mention 228 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: that he came off of an ACL surgery also, that's true. 229 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: That's true. But Kyle, I'm gonna throw you a raft here. Okay, 230 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: your raft, you throw it. I kind of like it. 231 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't like it now. I don't think it's gonna happen. Now, 232 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's gonna happen. But 233 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: I threw it out there yesterday as just an emergency option, 234 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, if things aren't going well or if there's 235 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: another injury at tackle. You know, Connor Williams played tackle 236 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: in college basically, and I think his athleticism is a 237 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: good fit out there if they needed to make a change. 238 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they will, and like you guys said, 239 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: give him, you know, give him some time coming off 240 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: the injury. Huge tough matchup, tough beyond a tough matchup 241 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: in week one. But I do think they have some 242 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: flexibility there also. I mean, if you had to really dig, 243 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: dig deep in the bag, Zach Martin could go out 244 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: there too, So they have some flexibility there. I just 245 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: don't know how they feel about how, you know, Connor 246 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: McGovern and Tyler Biadaship come along so far in camp, 247 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: if they're ready to step in and play starters snaps 248 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know about that. But obviously they 249 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: felt like Karen Steele was, which came to surprise and 250 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: everybody pretty much. Hey, Rob, just just because it's a 251 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: life rapp doesn't mean they just inflated. So if you, 252 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Rob would would float me life and raft oh man, 253 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: that would That'd be the old man savage. But yeah, 254 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: just trying to just grab on, I'll pull. It's got 255 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: a roth attached to it. Uh yeah, I mean, I'm 256 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: with you, Rob, I don't think it will happen. I 257 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: just I was playing around with the depth chart and 258 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: whenever you look at the past of both Looney and Williams. 259 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: The fact that they've played those positions stuck out to me. 260 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Looney played the majority of the beginning of 261 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: his career at guard, whereas you saw, like you said, 262 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Connor Williams at Texas playing at a tackle role. And 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I think if you have two guys like McGovern, like 264 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: be Oddish that could come in and play center, maybe 265 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: not at the level of Joe Looney, but you sure 266 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: up two other spots and sacrifice maybe a little bit 267 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: of one. I think there's at least something to play 268 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: around with here. I don't think it will happen. I 269 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: don't really believe it it should happen, but it's just 270 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: something to think about with this offensive line. If things 271 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: do go south, things go south. I would keep Looney 272 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: he is at center. But it is interesting that when 273 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I think Connor Williams shoe fell off and for like 274 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: one play in the game, Yeah, and it was it 275 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: was be Honest that came out at left guard. That 276 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: was interesting. That's interesting. Hey, Rob, you know you know 277 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: what else I saw. I saw that Beyondest was not 278 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: ready to come in a game because by the time, 279 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: by the time that Connor Williams got all the way 280 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: to the sideline Beyondest was just getting his helmet, so 281 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: I saw that as well. Oh man, you gotta stay ready, Yes, 282 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: stay ready. Can't be ready, it's move the Wisconsin's center 283 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: playing a little bit of left guard. That's probably why 284 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready because he was like, oh, I gotta 285 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: go play left guard. Okay, uh, let's go ahead and 286 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: take our first break. Because like you guys were just 287 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: talking about, Aaron Donald was a problem on Sunday. Tack 288 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: McKinley could be a problem this upcoming Sunday. We're gonna 289 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: preview the defense tomorrow. We've got the Atlanta offense versus 290 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense when we returned here on Talking Cowboys 291 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: since eighteen sixty five. 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Kyle Yeoman's Heck Maharrison, Rob Phillips, and our 325 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: residence Super Bowl champion Isaiah stand back as we get 326 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you ready for Falcons Week here at the Star in Frisco, 327 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: as the Cowboys take on the oh and one Atlanta Falcons. 328 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna preview the offense of this matchup. And when 329 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: I'm mean offense, it's with a capital O from the 330 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons perspective, because they put up some numbers against 331 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: a pretty stout Seattle defense on Sunday, even with Seattle 332 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: getting the win, thirty eight to twenty five was the 333 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: final score of that one. Atlanta finished with the most 334 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: offense in the NFC last week five hundred and six 335 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: total yards, most in a season opening game by Atlanta 336 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen when they had five to sixty eight 337 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: against New Orleans. So the fact that Atlanta is firing 338 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: on all cylinders, it really revolves around the passing game. 339 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan four hundred and fifty yards of passing through 340 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the air. Three count them, one, two, three, one hundred 341 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: yard receivers Russell Gauge. Then you had Calvin Ridley and 342 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: then last week's NFL leading receiver Julio Jones. So guys, 343 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: I know we had this conversation last week, Isaiah, and 344 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. It's whiteouts versus Whiteouts again. We're 345 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Atlanta Whiteouts today. We'll talk about 346 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys versus their defense tomorrow. But this is another 347 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: stout passing game, and it's one that even has a 348 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: stout running game with Todd Gurley back there as well. 349 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: What do you think about the offense overall? Isaiah? I 350 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: am nervous for all of Cowboys Nation because, like my 351 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: statement I've made on Monday, which wasn't well received from 352 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation, there's a real possibility now that we can 353 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: go Oh and two reason being reason being this offense 354 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: is probably one of the most talented offenses in the 355 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: entire NFL. You have a veteran back in the form 356 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: of some dude named Matt Ryan, a ka Mattie Ice. 357 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: He gets the name Ice for a reason because he's 358 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: ice cold. And then you give him. You give him, 359 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best receiver in the NFL, by 360 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: the name of Julio Jones. You give him a secondary 361 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: receiver by the name of Calvin Ridley who can blaze 362 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: all day long. And then you bring in this dude 363 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: named Russell Gage. Oh and by the way, there's a 364 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: tight end that they have that they picked up in 365 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: a trade who was a first round draft pick who 366 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: is now on their team, named by the name of 367 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst. And then you get a dude who's been disrespected, 368 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: who's probably the most angry running back in the NFL, 369 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: by the name of Todd Gurley. This team is stacked. 370 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: If last week's performance by them against Seattle didn't show 371 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: everybody that these dudes are not to be mess with, 372 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: they just happen to play a better Seattle team. Seattle 373 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: is really good this year, but Matt Ryan still through 374 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: for four hundred plus yards. They had three one hundred 375 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: yard receivers. Like you said, Kyle, these guys didn't just 376 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: have one hundred yard receivers on hundred yard games like 377 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: like it was just like big plays. These guys had 378 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: nine receptions each, nine receptions each for one fifty seven, 379 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: one thirty and two touchdowns and one hundred and fourteen yards. Fellas, 380 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: bootstraps need to be strapped on because we're gonna for 381 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: a ride this week. This secondary in trouble. Oh my god. Well, 382 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: look to let me just say this two tis point 383 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: about the Atlanta Falcons. And look, guys, I don't know 384 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: if no I should say this. Now there's a yes, 385 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: the Christler three hundred looks a lot like a Rose 386 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: Royce from a distance, but when you get right up 387 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: on you realize this. So so they have a Rose 388 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: Royce and they have a little Bentley on the side. 389 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: But the other one man, that's that's the Christler three hundred. 390 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: So you look, this is what I'm saying. The Atlanta 391 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: Falcons do. They do have a lot of weapons. And 392 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, if you go back to last week's tape, 393 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: if we don't stop the screens those smoke routes, we're 394 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: gonna be in trouble all season alone. So that's something 395 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: that we're gonna have to fix anyway. And to mention 396 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley in that conversation, yeah, man, I mean play action. 397 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: You're going to have to respect that heck out of 398 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: play action this week because of Todd Gurley. Last week, 399 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons in that tall, sweet but girly my god, 400 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: it was devastating to Seattle in the first half, but 401 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Seattle just started selling out to stop that. And that's 402 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: exactly what Dallas's defense is going to have to do again. 403 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: The our rookie tray Von Diggs last week, he looked 404 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: phenomenal and I know he had the catches over him 405 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: and they were in close waters and he was right there. 406 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: But I know that that rookie is going to make 407 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: some adjustments that Cowboys secondary. They do have the word 408 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: cut out for him. But at the same time, man 409 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta and all these nicknames, the natural Mattie Iceland, Man, 410 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: he is somebody that will give you the ball. So 411 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: he ain't his ice cold as they say he is. 412 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: Say you call him lukewarm. Huh goodness, man, man, I 413 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I'd say this Falcon it's better than it's 414 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: a luxury vehicle. Falcon's offense. Come on, now, it's pretty good. 415 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty talented all over the board, right, I mean, yeah, 416 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: that's what they say. That's what they say. I mean 417 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, he was basically abandoned in la He goes 418 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: to Atlanta, And you want me to believe that we're 419 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: back at square one with Todd Gurley from three years ago. 420 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: He has to show me that's all. Well, I'll tell 421 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: you what. You guys covered the receivers and Hayden Herscher right, 422 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: asaia athletic tight end. And I'm curious if Brandon Carr 423 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: is active. Is that somebody that maybe that's a matchup, 424 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a matchup to watch. We saw Daryl World 425 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: come in and cover tight ends in week one. I'm 426 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: looking at the running game to piggyback on what Heck said, 427 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: because they established the run early against Seattle. I think 428 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: at halftime Gurley was getting five yards a pop. They 429 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: just felt fell behind and had had to throw. That's 430 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: there's no way that that's as efficient as they wanted. 431 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: They want to be more balanced than having to throw 432 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: fifty four times. Um So, so, how did the Cowboys 433 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: stop that running game as well as the short passing game, 434 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: as Heckma mentioned, And I'm just looking at that matchup 435 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: up front between in the trenches because the Falcons have 436 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: really tried to upgrade that offensive line. I think They've 437 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 1: got three first round picks on their pro bowler at 438 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: center with Alex Mack and m and another third round pick, 439 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: so you know, I think they're improved there, and they 440 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: needed to be, because I think I think Ryan was 441 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: sacked forty something times last couple of seasons. Can the 442 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys stop the run and force them into that one 443 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: dimensional stuff? That's to me. I think they're gonna try 444 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: to be balanced with Gurley and not go away from 445 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: him like the Rams did at times last year. I 446 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: think that's a fantastic point, Rob because when you look 447 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: at matt Ryan and his stats last week, four hundred 448 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: and fifty yards jumps off the stat sheet. It always will. 449 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: That's an crazy number to put up, but you mentioned it. 450 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: He threw the ball fifty four times. That's tied for 451 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: the second most attempts in a single game in Mattie 452 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: ICE's career, which, by the way, I think it's crazy 453 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: that he's already been playing since two thousand and eight. 454 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: It feels like yesterday he was coming out of Boston College. 455 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: But with that being said, it was the twelfth time 456 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: that he's thrown for fifty or more passing attempts in 457 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: a game. His record in those games three and nine. 458 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: So whenever you force them to abandon the run and 459 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: you forced them to throw the football around, they're going 460 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: to lose. They might lose. I don't want to say 461 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: they're going to lose because they've won three of those games. 462 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: And you look at the receivers, they're probably the best 463 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: receivers Mattie Ice has had throughout his career. And I'm 464 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: talking about Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, and then Russell Gage. 465 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Don't sleep on Russell Gauge. That guy's fantastic. I think 466 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: he's a guy who's undersung. It's kind of like how 467 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup was last year. Younger guys just twenty four 468 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: years old out of LSU. This is a kid that 469 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: is going to continue emerging and I think he's on 470 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: that same track of what a Calvin Ridley was, maybe 471 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: without the fan fair I mean, he was a sixth 472 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: round pick. But this is a guy who is going 473 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: to continue to improve. And he looked like a Lamborghini 474 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: last week. He didn't look like no Chrysler three hundred. 475 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: And I think this whole offense holding Seattle was after 476 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: they had gained the league. They were in pretty much 477 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: a prevent defense. And so that's where you got a 478 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: bunch of those yards from guys. I mean, I understand 479 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: you look at the statue and make you go, oh 480 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: my god, this guy's a stun But did you watch 481 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: the film the narrative, absolutely, I know you want That's 482 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You should have seen that Russell Gage 483 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: was not just going up against the prevent defense. This 484 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: is so we're talking about when we're talking about Atlanta 485 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: and their threat to Dallas. I realized if they have 486 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: a treo, they have a trio wide receivers that can 487 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: do damage. I see that clearly. But at the same time, 488 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: if you make them abandoned and a great tight end 489 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: and and if they abandoned the run, they're gonna have 490 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: to throw. And like you just said, they're three and 491 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: nine in those contests, and I'll take I'll take those 492 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: numbers right now. All I'm saying, look, basically, the Cowboys defense, 493 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: they do have their work cutout for him. I'm not 494 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: trying to undermine who the Atlanta Falcons are, but at 495 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: the same time, I'm looking at their body of work. 496 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking at where they were last year. They started 497 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: the season off two and six and dan Quinn's head 498 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: was on the chopping block. So we have to remember 499 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: that history if we're going to talk about future performance 500 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: and that what's coming up on Sunday at twelve. So 501 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm all things being considered, all things being considered, I'm 502 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: telling you it is our responsibility to stop Girly and 503 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: the guy that's only referred to by his first name. 504 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: And I think we'll have this game in the bag. Yes, 505 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: thank you, Kyle, I really appreciate Let me it's just 506 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: me just my headphones here. Um heckma, heckma, heckma. I 507 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: love you to death, sir. Um. However, you disrespected this 508 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: offense by calling them a Christ's last three hundred. Uh. 509 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: I know we talked about bringing Brandon Carr up, and 510 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: we and we keep saying things that are really common sense. Right, 511 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: if you abandon the run, you have to pass obviously, right. Um. 512 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: I think if anybody knows that Cowboys Nation knows that, right, 513 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: we had to we got we got behind last year 514 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and what did we do, Oh, all of a sudden, 515 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: we throw for all these you know, four thousand plus yards. 516 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: Of course, you got to throw the ball around when 517 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: you're playing from behind. So that's why Maddie I s 518 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: threw the ball over fifty times. Um, they don't want 519 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: to do that. They want Matt Ryan to throw the 520 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: ball about thirty to thirty five times a game. Why 521 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: because they have that dude in the backfield that you 522 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: guys seemingly I'm gonna say, you guys, but I know 523 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Hecka has disrespected him already today on the show. UM, 524 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: by the name of Todd Gurley, and by the way, 525 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, the last twenty seventeen he has played against 526 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, I believe three times, and of those 527 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: three times, he rushed for over one hundred yards two 528 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: of those games. So he is a dog and he 529 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: likes playing against the Cowboys. And I think he's probably 530 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: feeling disrespected not only by mister HECKM Harrison, but also 531 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: by the rest of the NFL because he was disregarded 532 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: and kicked out of LA as a disgruntled employee, and 533 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: now he's here with an opportunity with Atlanta with a 534 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: quarterback at the helm and other weapons, maybe arguably more 535 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: weapons than even the Rams have on this team, and 536 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: he is going to do work. So if the Cowboys 537 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: look anything like they looked last week on this defensive 538 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: line against the run, there's going to be a problem. 539 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: And if they do, if Mike Nolan does decide to 540 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: bring pressure, he's caught in a little twenty twenty right, 541 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: He's caught in between. He can't really blitz the way 542 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: he wants to it he has historically, because you can't 543 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: go man the man outside. You can't guard these guys 544 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: man the man who are gonna who are you gonna 545 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: let guard Julio Jones man to man? So you can't blitz, 546 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: and you can't sit back in the zone and play 547 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: the way you played last week because you got the 548 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: ball ran up your throat. So what do you do? 549 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: So So every time, every week, everybody that we come against, 550 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: are they gonna be king Kong every week? Because at 551 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: the same time we are gonna be out there on 552 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: the field with them as well. You're asking me on 553 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: this question, I gave you an understannswer. I appreciate when 554 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: they come down to Julio. I'm watching out for Julio 555 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: from the school, y'all. That's it now, Todd Gurley, he's 556 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to show me that he still has it 557 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: because he didn't have it last year. Okay, so everybody 558 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: else a six round draft pick. Calvin Ridley. I already 559 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: told you the baby Bentley sitting next to the Rose Russ. 560 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: I got respect for that. But at the same time, 561 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the same film you guys are looking 562 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: at it. I have hope that our defense will make 563 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: those adjustments. And oh, by the way, we discovered this 564 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: guy by the bay of Alvin Smith who is rocking 565 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: and is one and a half sacks away from having 566 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: fifty sacks, putting him in great company. H Look, Look, 567 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if ALDN. Smith will go to Canton, 568 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: but what's the next town over from Canton? He at 569 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: least got to go to that town, right, because I 570 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: don't ever remember a guy playing in the first his 571 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: first game after a five year breaking having twelve tackles. Look, 572 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: I know that this team is gonna show up next 573 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: and look, I'm hoping that we show up next week, 574 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: and we know who we have to stop. But I'm 575 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: not gonna make Todd Gurley bigger than what I have 576 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: to make him and say, oh my god, oh my god, 577 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley's coming to town. He didn't have it. Then, 578 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you the Cowboys defense is gonna get stops 579 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: this week. I'm a homer. Call me what you want to. 580 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: I love it, and I love the passion, and I 581 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: love I respect every single point that you've made. And 582 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned that every week isn't going to be like 583 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: this where you look on the other side and you say, 584 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: oh oh, that's a matchup problem. But it was a 585 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: matchup problem just past the first three games. That's the 586 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: thing exactly it was. It was a matchup problem. Week one. 587 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: We saw that the offense had their way. It was 588 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: these little seven eight yard dinkin dunk under the secondary, 589 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: really forcing the Cowboys defense to make a play in 590 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: the front seven. They didn't necessarily do that. This might 591 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: be the opposite. This might be, Hey, we're gonna run 592 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: the football and stuff it until we want to go 593 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: along and we want to hit Julio the Lamborghini on 594 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: the side of the field and find a way to 595 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: get him the football deep down the field. But Rob, 596 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: whenever you talk about this Atlanta offense and you look 597 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: at what the Cowboys have defensively, which position group, but 598 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: real quickly before we go to break, which position group 599 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: scares you the most from a Cowboys defensive perspective against 600 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: this offense, this receiver. I mean, that's arguably the talented, 601 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: most talented trio potentially. I mean, we talked about the 602 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys Rams Bucks. I think you put the Falcons up 603 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: there too, absolutely in that mix, But I do I 604 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: got respect for Gurley, and I do think what we 605 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: saw in week one that got to be able to 606 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: stop the run. They got to be able to create 607 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: some better third down situations for themselves. I went back 608 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: and looked at it. Seventeen third downs for the Rams. 609 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: They were only in third long three times, so they 610 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: got to kind of do whatever they want. They were 611 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: constantly comfortable. So I think it starts with being able 612 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: to control the line of scrimmage and try to get 613 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, who's not the most mobile quarterback in third 614 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: and lungs. And then Alvin Smith, who you're right, heck 615 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: is a big time bright spot from week one. Then 616 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: he can tee off then take and tee off Everson Griffin, 617 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: and then you can get back to what you're doing, 618 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: what you do well with your D line and rob 619 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: and just because everybody's just forgetting what Gurley did, even 620 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: though they had to abandon the run. He was averaging 621 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: four yards of pop last week against Seattle, better than 622 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: that in the first half as well before Seattle really 623 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: sold out to stop the run in the second half, 624 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: which I was watching and Todd Gurley that I kind 625 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: of expected to see, which is not prime tied Gurley, 626 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: but it's still somebody who's gonna get you four or 627 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: five yards of pop. He were still falls forward much 628 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: like Zeke pairing the two, but they have that same 629 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: kind of running game, more of a side to side 630 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: game for Gurley, and I don't think he's at the 631 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: level of Zeke, but at the same time, he does 632 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: present some of the same challenges to an imposing defense 633 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: and he opens up the play action game, which is 634 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: exactly what dan Quinn wants to do. With The Cowboys 635 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: lead the all time series seventeen to eleven. The last 636 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: meeting went in favor of the Cowboys twenty two to nineteen. 637 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: Back in twenty eighteen. 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It's the Wednesday edition as 682 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: we're just a couple days away halfway through the week 683 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: going into Falcon's week Here at the Star, Kyle Yeoman's 684 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Isaiah Standback and Cowboys insider Rob Phillips. 685 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I just saw a tweet. There was a 686 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: article you put up on Dallas Cowboys dot com looking 687 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: at some of the bright spots from that lost a 688 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: not so bright spot from Sunday's loss against the Ram. 689 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: No more Blake Jarwin for the remainder of the season 690 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: as tight end one has gone down, and that's unfortunate 691 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: for him and for the Cowboys because this was supposed 692 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: to be the breakout here. This was supposed to be 693 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: the year he finally got those snaps, finally got that 694 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to show what he's made of, got the extension, 695 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: and in Game one he goes down. But now you 696 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: kind of have to make some adjustments. And as we've 697 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: got about seven minutes left in the show, guys, I 698 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: want to talk about maybe having those tight ends play 699 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: to their strength. In terms of Blake Bell and Dalton Schultz, 700 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: their strengths are blocked. They're not necessarily the best receivers 701 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: in the tight end room. I think I would even 702 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: throw maybe a cole Hiccottini up there in front of 703 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: a couple of those guys, maybe on the off of 704 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 1: the practice squad. But when you talk about blocking tight ends, Rob, 705 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: these are two guys that could get the job done. 706 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: Can we get these two to help out on the 707 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: offensive tackle side? Should Terrence Steel need some help on 708 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: that offensive line? You know, you kind of sent a 709 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: chill down my spine at the end of the last 710 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: segment when you talked about the Falcons winning a couple 711 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: of these games lately against the Cowboys, and I thought 712 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: about twenty seventeen, Oh boy, twenty seventeen. How many times? 713 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: How many times Dak's acted that game eight eight times 714 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: for fifty yards nightmare game, the Chads Green game, por 715 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: Chaz Green, and the same situation this week. I think 716 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: they've got to be ready to give help to Terrence Steele. 717 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: And to your point, I think they did that. You know, 718 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: I think they didn't wait to see how he fared 719 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: one on one. They there were there was tight ends 720 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: like Isaiah predicted it. They had tight ends in his 721 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: hip pocket. They had two tight ends at times chipping away. 722 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna see that. To your point, yeah, 723 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: Blake Bell can do that and Blake Jarwin's I'm sorry, 724 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwins Dalton Schultzon can be an all around tight end. 725 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: I think he can help some of that too. Ecma. Yeah, 726 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they get some help over there, and 727 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: knowing what we want to do in the running game 728 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: with Ezekiel Elliott is we're gonna have to get still 729 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: some help. But again, when you go back and watch 730 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: the tape, for everything that people are saying about still, 731 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't until the last pretty much drive that things 732 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 1: kind of fell apart for the young undrafted rookie. Other 733 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: than that, I think we were able to go into 734 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: our full you know, all of our all of our 735 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: players that we wanted to call. We were able to 736 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: do that even with the rookie out there. I think 737 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go from twelve personnel. Fellas, I 738 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: just think that you can't leave these guys on an 739 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,479 Speaker 1: island by themselves out there at tackle. Um, I don't. 740 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: I think that you're going on what you still need 741 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: to get a tight end out. Um. I don't want 742 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: to get a tight end out at the while while 743 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: leaving that tackle on an island. So I think you 744 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: need to have two tight ends in the game. Let 745 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: one of them get out and in or out let 746 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: one of them sit in and block. You probably won't 747 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: see CD as much as you would like to, obviously 748 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: being in twelve personnel. But I mean you have to 749 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: protect the home right right, which is dak Um, and 750 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: you need to lean on your strength, which is obviously 751 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: freaky Ezeki. So I think that their answer going forward, 752 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: obviously not the entire game, but to establish themselves in 753 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: this office and get the ball moving at these chains 754 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: movement as twelve personnel, So twelve for protection for dak Or. 755 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: You said at least one of the tight ends go, 756 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: So twelve personnel, right, So being that one one one 757 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: one tight end is actually down in a three point stands, 758 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: the other tight end is really in his hit pocket right, 759 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: and one of those tight is being able to get 760 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: off the ball and go round a route while the 761 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: other one sitting there in a hit pocket at a 762 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: tackle protecting deck. So I think that you probably put 763 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: Bail in and let Baill sit in there and be 764 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: attached to that tackle, and you let Shows go out 765 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: and run his little stick routes or whatever else you 766 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: may need while you know, being able to initiate the run, 767 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: initiate play action and get to get Gallop in and 768 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: Cooper out and routes and Rob stuff that stuff that 769 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: you I mean that you may have to do that 770 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: just to compensate for h you know, protection is because 771 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: your best package is eleven, you know, And that's that's 772 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: just the reality of it. I guess, yeah, And I 773 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: kind of want to go off of the twelve personnel 774 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: look and having Zeke in the ball game or Tony 775 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: Pollard if you wanted to flip flop the two of them, 776 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: and having that extra protection even in the passing game, 777 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: you could have a Tony Pollard and Zeke be an 778 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: extra blocker along with that extra tight end on the 779 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: edge of the line. But whenever Rob, whenever we were 780 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: a training camp, and we were looking at the different 781 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: at least scheme looks from the Cowboys. Twelve personnel was 782 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: in the mix and and it was because of Blake 783 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: Jarwin and Dalton Schultz. Do you expect Blake Bell to 784 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: just come in and have some success in twelve personnel? Immediately? 785 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm with Isaiah. I think you're probably are gonna have 786 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: to see more of it. I think, how many snaps 787 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: did Blake Bell have in the game, like eight ything 788 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: like that? I was I was surprised that maybe he 789 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: didn't he didn't be played as few as he did. Yeah, 790 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with Isaiah on that. I think. I 791 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: think ideally what the Cowboys did last year was eleven 792 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: personnel most of the time with Randall Cobb, and I 793 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: think that's still their best package. Obviously with Ceedee Lamb 794 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: and I think he showed he showed some flashes of 795 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: exactly what he can be. But yeah, I think based 796 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: on what they might have to do in certain situations, 797 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see more Blake Bell, and 798 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: I think that's why they I think that's why they 799 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: signed him. I mean, he was more of that utility 800 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,959 Speaker 1: type tight end for the Chiefs. Last year. A nice 801 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: compliment to Kelsey, who's obviously ann elite pass catching tight end. Yeah, 802 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: I think situationally, I'm fine with twelve personnel. But it 803 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: all just goes to hell in a hand basket when 804 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: you say take take CD Lamb off the field. Right, 805 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: So I want my weapons, all of my weapons on 806 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: the field. But I understand where you're coming from, especially 807 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: from a protection standpoint, But we're gonna have to play 808 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: the percentages and rob again that you know, situational situational football, 809 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: situational awareness and making sure that we get back the 810 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: protection that he needs. But if you look at the 811 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 1: drives from last week's game, you realize that the offense 812 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: we had it going. There were a couple drives that 813 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 1: did sputter. But at the same time, look, we can't 814 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: change what we were doing for especially for defense that 815 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: didn't bring a lot to the table as far as 816 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: sacks and things like that. Tack McKinley will be out there. 817 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: They have a lot also at the front line. I 818 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: can't think of the guy's name, but there they have 819 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: a few defenders that we have to be aware of. 820 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't see us changing what we 821 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: do and if we're talking twelve, what are the percentages 822 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: of playing twelve personnel? That's that's what I'm saying. As 823 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: long as if it's take a ceede lamb off the field, 824 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: I don't like it. That's fair. Yeah, And heck with 825 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: the guy you were thinking of, Grady Jarrett is also 826 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: in that mix, and when made the Pro Bowl, six 827 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: six year veteran from Clemson j that's him, yep, and 828 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: he's fantastic as well. That's gonna be a stout defensive line. 829 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: They had three sacks of Russell Wilson the other day 830 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: and their loss on Sunday, so I think overall, the 831 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: offensive line is gonna have another tough test, and I 832 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: think if you can give some extra help. I know 833 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: David Hellman is upstairs in the building or he's at 834 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: home somewhere, and I know he's just cringing with the 835 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: thought of twelve personnel because he hates it. But there's 836 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: just definite need for an extra blocker. Should there be 837 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: some struggles on Sunday in terms of slowing down that 838 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: defensive line, and I think there might be a couple 839 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: of struggles, but that's gonna do it. Here for talking 840 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys on this Wednesday. Glad you've been with us here 841 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: over the last forty five minutes, join us again tomorrow. 842 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna flip the script. 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