WEBVTT - TechStuff Tackles the Amazon Cloud Player 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:08.920 It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:17.920 tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.799 Welcome to tex stuff. My name is Chris Polette and 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.640 I am an editor at how stuff works dot com. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.000 Sitting across from me as always a senior writer Jonathan Strickland. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.520 Nobody comes to visit me in my little cloud. I 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:34.400 don't know why. Maybe because I'm cutting muffins of all 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.840 the songs. You chose that we're talking about clouds. That's true. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.840 We were going to talk about Amazon's much heralded new 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:50.239 cloud service because it's completely unlike everything else that came 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.960 out that's a cloud service. Yes, except well there is 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.560 there is one unique element, or at least it's it's new. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.320 It's new enough to talk about, right, It's not like 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.960 it's something it is, uh that also has been done 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:07.000 over and over again. Actually, I think the thing is 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.360 I wanted to talk about this because so many people 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.320 are talking about it, um because it isn't for the 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.279 most part, all that groundbreaking in a lot of ways, 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.920 but people are still talking about it as though it 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.160 were a revolutionary thing and I think in a way, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.280 it's the mindset behind it and the fact and that 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.000 one that one special instance, and if you're if you're 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.960 new to what we're talking about and have absolutely no 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.360 idea what we're prattling on about this point, it's called 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.880 cloud drive, and that's a a cloud based service. And 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.399 we talk about cloud we're talking about internet storage. So 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.560 rather than using the hard drive on your computer or 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.640 an external hard drive that you plug in your computer 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.840 or maybe even on your network at home, the files 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.200 that you save to this service are going across the 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.880 Internet to be stored on in this case, Amazon's hard 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.840 drives computer. And the reason you would do this, there's 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.760 actually several reasons. One would be that, well, you know, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.840 there's most of us just have so much storage, and 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.320 you start to accumulate enough stuff. You have, as George 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.160 Carlin would say, not enough places to put your stuff, 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.040 So you gotta find more places for all the stuff 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.240 you got, and uh, that's a great routine. And uh, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.359 and that cloud storage is a great way of finding 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.360 places to put your stuff. So you are effectively putting 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.200 your stuff in someone else's house, that's one thing. So 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.519 you're getting your you're able to offload storage. But another 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.880 reason you might like it is because, unlike some of us, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.880 these cloud storage companies tend to have lots of of 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.639 backups and redundancy built into their systems so that if 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.799 something goes wrong, you don't lose your data. Because if 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.960 my hard drive crashes, I lose that stuff. Right, anything 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.919 that's stored locally on that hard drive, I could potentially 0:02:55.160 --> 0:03:01.840 lose forever. That's right. There's also leads us to the downsides. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.000 And if you have been listening to tech stuff for 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.880 years now, you know that we when we talk about 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.799 cloud computing, in cloud storage, we were going to talk 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.880 about privacy. When you have multiple copies of your information 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.239 stored on someone else's computers, um, then there is the 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.200 possibility that that information could fall into someone else's hands 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.680 and if it's not encrypted, could be or or not 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.400 encrypted well enough, um or if the person is really 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.160 really good at cryptography. Yeah, and we're talking crazy good 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.840 because most of the cryptography that's been use out there 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.240 is is strong enough to defeat all but let's say 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:45.120 a government's uh resources, Yeah, the most the most sophisticated 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.440 uh crackers. But yeah, I mean, if if you're storing 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.200 this information out there and it's not secure enough. There's 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.720 a possibility that you could put your financial records, or 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:02.520 genealogical information or kids photos are all kinds of stuff 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.520 that you probably don't want everyone else to have in 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.640 the hands of someone else, and that that is why 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.800 some people avoid using cloud storage. And there's also the 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.240 chance that there's also the thought that if there were 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.680 any loss of connectivity for some reason, you would then 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.599 have you wouldn't have have access to your data anymore. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.919 I recently had this problem. It's a big pain in 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.200 the neck. Yeah. So if you use cloud storage for 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.640 lots of your stuff and you for some reason, maybe 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.720 you forgot to pay a bill, or maybe the actual 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.080 internet service provider has suffered some sort of failure and 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.240 for some reason or another you're not able to access 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.359 the Internet, well, then you're not able to get to 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.960 all of your files because they're stored remotely on some 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:48.520 other server. Right now, for consumers, that is you and me, 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.880 or at least most of us. Um we already have 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:58.080 lots of really well known and pretty well regarded services, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.719 people like dropbox and Sugar Sinc And Box dot net, 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.120 people like even even things like Google Docs. If you're 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.880 talking about specific types of documents, spreadsheets and presentations, and 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.000 are all cloud services? Yes, and and Amazon has been 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.159 doing this too for a long time, offering uh, storage 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:21.440 solutions primarily to two companies corporate customers. Yeah, but this 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.440 is so you at this point you might say, so, yeah, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.760 what what's what's so new about this? Uh, this cloud 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.120 drive allows you to store all kinds of documents. You 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:36.200 could put word processing files up there, anything that could 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.000 really any file format pretty much. But they really intended 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.960 to serve as a music locker. Yeah, this is the 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.240 brilliance of this system. So Amazon's had this cloud storage 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.520 in place for a couple of years. In fact, when 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.480 we started talking about cloud storage, probably two years ago 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.719 when we were first starting the podcast, Amazon was one 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.560 of the big providers that was leading the way in 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.359 cloud storage, but they had not happed into the general 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:06.320 consumer until they thought, why don't we combine this cloud 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.720 storage with our amazing MP three store where you can 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.800 buy m P three's from Amazon, and we can package 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.080 it in such a way that it's really attractive to 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.200 Amazon customers and make a service out of it. So 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.719 it's not just a storage service, but is some sort 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:26.440 of transmission service as well. And it's it's they. I mean, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.600 you couldn't have asked them to do a better job. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.400 They not only did they really make a big splash 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.640 in the news, they scooped other major companies that are 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.159 trying to do something similar right now. And when I 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.159 say major companies, I'm talking Google and Apple. Yes, yes, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:46.080 um Now there are again other music locker sites. And 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.599 what a music locker is, um, I think primarily of 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.320 groove Shark. There are many others, but um including one 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:59.120 that was purchased by Apple um la la. But what 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.080 it is is you start an account. And I've I've 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.320 always been kind of weirded out by this because it 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.640 seems so like sort of a dubious uh in terms 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.359 of licensing sort of situation. You sign up for an 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.720 account with one of these services, and the service allows 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.320 you to upload your own music to the service. Now, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.280 in the case of groove Shark, you can actually listen 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.040 to the music that other people have uploaded on the site. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.280 And that's where it really gets kind of complicated. Well, 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.480 the artists are getting a cut, according to groove Shark, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.400 so you know that that apparently, and they have licenses 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.080 with the major music labels. So they are are apparently okay, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.080 but it took me a little while to go. I 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.600 am not going to get in trouble for using this site. Um, 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.000 but yeah, if you if you use Amazon's cloud drive, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.520 you can upload music that you have purchased on encrypted 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.840 music in a c r M P three format. If 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:51.880 you buy music from Amazon from that MP three store 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.880 that you mentioned a moment ago, it'll go straight to 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.680 the cloud. It goes straight to the cloud and you 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.040 can you can download it, but you can also find 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.320 it in your your cloud store cloud storage. Yeah, here's 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.840 the brilliance of this. So let's say that you decided 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:08.640 to purchase an album from from Amazon dot com and 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.000 it goes into your cloud storage. You can download it 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.160 immediately if you want to. You can wait, you can 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.160 go download it off another computer. All you have to 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.000 do is log into your Amazon dot Com account. So 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.239 and as soon as you have an Amazon dot Com account, 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.920 you get five gigabytes of storage space and in a 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.440 cloud drive for free. Yes, just for being an Amazon 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.720 dot Com customer. You don't have to purchase anything. No 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.000 five gigs for free. If you buy an album, you 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.760 get twenty gigs for free for a full year. Yes, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.760 and uh, all you have to do is then what 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.400 you would have to renew it from that point and 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.400 essentially Amazon charges a dollar a gig per year. Actually 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.800 is it? Do you have to buy a full album? 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:47.679 I think if you, I think you have to buy 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.320 a full album to get the twenty gigs. That was 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.640 very smart on their on their part, because somebody was 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.600 suggesting that you could go buy one of the sixty 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.520 nine cent songs, get twenty gigabytes for a year for 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.840 sixty cents. This is the other really cool thing about 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.480 it though, Right, Okay, so you have that five gigabytes 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.480 of space. That's a lot of space. That's up to 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.480 a thousand songs, more or less depending upon the you know, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.400 how how high quality they are and how long the 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.520 songs are. I mean, granted, if it's meat loaf, it's 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.280 probably more like six songs. Because that dude just never 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.000 never shuts up. Man. I would do anything for love, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.640 but I won't shut up. I love. By the way, 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.400 I was both the food item and the artist. Oh man, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:34.760 so happened to Saturday night? Anyway? Yes? Sorry, I got 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.520 a little off track there. Where was I? I had 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.520 five gigabytes of storage. So you've got five gigabytes of 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.080 storage starting off for free, right, but if you buy 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:47.439 a song for Amazon dot Com, it doesn't count against 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.360 the five gigabytes. That's right. Yeah, any any music that 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.200 you buy from Amazon dot com. Say you have a 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.560 your your accounts empty, and you're getting ready to buy 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.720 an album. Yes, uh so you you're you're going to 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.959 get the twenty gigabytes. And let's say it's it's nice 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:06.119 round number that the album is a hundred fifty megabytes 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.800 worth of music. That hundred fifty megabytes does not count 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.440 toward the twenty gigabytes. That's conditioned to You can just 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.840 keep buying music from Amazon dot com and you will 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.319 never fill up that space no matter how many gigs 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.120 of music you have if you bought all right, So, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.000 twenty gigabytes holds about four thousand songs more or less 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.240 unless it's meat loaf and already did that joke. Anyway, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.160 So twenty gigabytes about four thousand songs. So let's say 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.720 you bought five thousand songs. You went on a spree. Okay, okay, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.160 so you bought five thousand songs. Well, because Amazon dot 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.520 Com does not count those against your your cap. You 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.480 can have all those in your cloud drive if you 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.680 bought them all from Amazon dot Com, unless, of course, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.080 you bought them before, right, that's a problem. If you 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.400 bought them before, then what you're doing is you're uploading 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.079 to the cloud and that does count against your cap. Yeah, 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.520 because I do have a few albums that I have 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.199 purchased from Amazon service, and I I don't get those 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.760 retroactively added to my locker with Amazon doesn't know that 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.840 necessarily that although I'm sure there's some code in there somewhere, 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.240 but Amazon does not quote unquote know that which MP 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.560 three's were ripped from the CD, which ones were purchased 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.000 through iTunes. Of course that wouldn't be an MP three necessarily, 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.679 but uh, or which ones were bought off Amazon dot 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.120 com or some other service. So you even if you 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.160 did buy other songs from Amazon dot Com before, those 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:27.720 are not going to be grandfathered in. So here's where 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:33.160 it starts to become a music specific effort, because um, 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.240 you know the services that I mentioned earlier, people like 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.839 Dropbox and box dot net and sugar Sinc. They the 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:44.040 basic accounts with those the free accounts generally about two 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.640 gigabytes worth the space, um, and they don't discriminate what 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.520 kind of file types you can save in their right 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.720 and and um, well i'll talk about that a little 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.880 bit more in a minute. And yes, those of you 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.720 who have accounts with Dropbox will know that if you 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.360 get other people to sign up in use your name, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.560 than you get extra space. But yeah, starting out, you 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.120 get to two gigabytes with the space, so you're already 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.280 more than doubling that. But that this is a brilliant 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:13.640 marketing move for their music store because it is encouraging 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:18.280 you to down buy and download those uh music files 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.240 from Amazon's MP three store. Yeah, if the lower prices 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.079 weren't enough for you, then this will also help. So yeah, 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.640 that's the big that's the big differentiation there between the 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.080 cloud drive and other services. Now, if you want more 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.840 space other than the twenty gigabytes that we were talking 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.080 about for buying music, um, you can buy that essentially 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.280 a dollar a gigabyte. Yea. It comes in increments um, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:46.280 which are D two hundred, five hundred and a thousand gigabytes. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.120 So if you want a thousand extra gigabytes you need 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.320 a terabyte of storage, yes you can. You can buy 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.000 that for a terabyte of money about a thousand dollars 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:59.560 a year, a grand a cool grand um. So you know, 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.480 it depends on what you're going to be storing in there, 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.200 what it's worth you to do that. But keep in mind, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.199 although we're talking a lot about music here, you can 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.720 still store other files in that cloud drive. It doesn't 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.840 all have to be music. So if I bought an 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.640 album from Amazon dot Com got twenty gigabytes of storage, 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.160 I could fill that twenty gigabytes up with video, or 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.560 I could fill it up with documents if I had 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.640 that many. I can't imagine having twenty gigabytes worth the documents. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.000 I don't want to either or pictures. I mean, you 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:26.800 can fill that stuff up anyway you want. And of 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.920 course you can keep buying music off Amazon dot Com 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.360 and it won't count against that cap um. But there's 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:36.680 another element that kind of makes this an interesting and 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:41.040 somewhat controversial move on Amazon's part, and that's you know, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.160 the cloud drive. Like we said, not really that that 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.920 groundbreaking because cloud storage has been around for a few years, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.960 but the cloud player, which again not necessarily groundbreaking, but 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:58.800 the implementation of the cloud player into this Cloud Drive ecosystem, 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.679 along with the Amazon on dot Com store, makes us 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.000 a really compelling and powerful tool. Now, the Cloud player. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.480 What that allows you to do is play music that's 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.880 stored in your cloud drive on any computer that's connected 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:15.000 to the Internet or on any Android device. You just 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.720 have to download the right MP three app and and 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.040 you can stream music from the cloud drive to your 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:27.080 computer or device. So effectively, this well, for one thing, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.920 it's a huge shot across the bowl of Apple. And 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.160 the reason I say this because it doesn't It means 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.040 that you can make your smartphone, you can turn it 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.880 into an MP three player, and you don't have to 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.880 worry about filling up your smartphones memory with songs because 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.440 all the songs actually live on a server and you 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.720 can have you know, five gigabytes where the songs are 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.360 more if you've bought them from Amazon, and it doesn't 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:56.080 affect your smartphones memory like your storage at all. Now, uh, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.840 I want, I want to make a couple of things clear. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.880 Of course, this is similar to many other types of services. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.560 You know, the serious are serious XM has you know 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.000 a player where you can listen to satellite radio over 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.080 the internet. Um, You've got people like Pandora, you've got 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:17.240 last dot FM, you've got Rdeo streaming streaming radio stations. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.880 You can use groove Shark if you are if you 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.120 are a subscribed member, you pay for a subscription, you 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.200 can listen to your groove Shark music on your player. Um. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.560 And some people have pointed out that you can do 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:33.040 this with the regular storage services as well. You can 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.440 get access to your if you save music to your 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:41.160 drop box, you can listen to that music too. But again, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.760 the effort is different the way they've structured it, the 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:49.640 way Amazon is structured. Yeah, it's it's somewhere in between, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.840 and it is definitely if you There are people I've 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.800 found in discussions about Sirius XM because I was satellite 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.040 radio subscriber for many years, who wanted to listen to 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.760 their own music, so they preferred their their MP three 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.560 player to a satellite player because they wanted that control. Um. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.600 So it's going to appeal to people like that. You 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.120 don't know, I don't want somebody else programming my station 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.600 for me. Yeah, that's great for some people, and I 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.960 don't want that. It's really gonna appeal to people who 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:20.400 either have very specific musical tastes that are not catered 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:25.120 to on regular terrestrial radio or even even some digital 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:30.640 radio stations. It will also appeal to people like us 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.920 who are getting older and our musical tastes are becoming 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.520 cemented and we don't like new things because they scare 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.800 us and get off my lawn. Hey, I like my 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.960 Lawrence Wilke playlist, Thank you very much. Yes, you're cutting edge, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.360 living there on the edge of life. I one nanna 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.520 and tiny. Oh wait no, I'm sorry. So some of 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.920 some of our listeners have no idea what we're talking about. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.800 But yeah, so I barely do. But now that that's 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.000 the significant different princes the amount of storage space that 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.359 Amazon is offering people. Now, Uh, I was kind of 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.320 wondering how I was going to get this app because 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.880 I was I'm very interested in this offering. I wrote 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.720 a blog post about it, and uh, we're basically covering 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:15.960 all of that, so you don't need to go read 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.920 it really right now. But um, the thing is, uh, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.720 it's built into the MP three, the Amazon MP three app, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.040 which I already had installed on my and you just 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:27.840 had to update and I had to update the app, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.640 and there it is the app. Yeah, if you don't 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.399 have that pre installed on an Android device, and we should, 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.080 you know, make it clear we're talking about Android specific 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.600 right now. There are ways where you can take advantage 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.000 of the cloud storage using an iOS device, but if 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.000 you want to listen to the music, you actually have 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.520 to download it to your device. That's one of the 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.360 other things we should point out. Amazon does not restrict 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.200 you from downloading this stuff because it's yours, right. This 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.719 drive is just a storage space. So you've stored music 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.919 in this drive, you can download it as much or 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.760 wherever you like, which that will become more problem later. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:05.280 You have a license to use that music, well, the 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:10.600 songs themselves do not belong to you. Yeah, yeah, that's good. No, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.640 it's good to point that out. It's good to point 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.639 that out because that's exactly how the companies do it. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.040 I just like watching that vein in your forehead, Throb. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.720 But let's say that you don't have the Amazon MP 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:24.320 three UH app preinstalled on your Android phone. There's if 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.760 you go to the Amazon dot com page and you 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.280 look for their cloud player, they actually have a QR 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.479 code that you can use to you know, use if 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.359 you have a QR code app on your Android phone. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.720 You can use that and it'll direct you specifically to 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.520 the marketplace where you can get that app. And it's free. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.359 The app is fhere. You don't have to pay for that. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.520 There's no subscription for this service. Um. And here's where 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.959 we're gonna get into some of the controversy. So with 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.520 this player being able to listen to this music streaming, 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.560 there's some music companies that are concerned that this is 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.760 violating licensing agreements. Yeah, remember when we were talking a 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.040 few moments ago, or actually Jonathan was talking a few 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:08.240 moments ago about how Amazon scooped Google and Apple. Both 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.640 of those companies have been known to be working on 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.280 some kind of effort. Well, in Apple's case, it's more 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:21.000 of a nearly substantiated rumor. They all signs point to 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:22.960 the the idea that they are going to be doing something. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:27.399 Google Music has been known about in some capacity for 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.399 a while, and it's rumored at the time we are 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.560 recording this, and who knows, by the time it goes live, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.480 it may be public, uh that Google is doing a 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.080 data with its internal employees for Google Music, which is 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.520 supposed to be a similar service to this, a cloud 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.600 music service. Apple, of course purchased La La, which we've 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:51.760 mentioned I think several times um. And they are building 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.119 a data center in North Carolina, very large data center. UM. 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.040 Rumor has it that it will be used for streaming 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.480 music and or video. Uh so that's been in the 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.800 works for a long time. But what Amazon didn't do 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.320 They wanted to get a jump on everyone else, which 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:15.200 they did. They also didn't tell the music companies what 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.320 was going on, so and didn't get light Well, they 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.200 didn't get licenses. Let's say this. They didn't get licenses 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.359 to do this, which normally the record companies prefer to do, 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.480 which is why Spotify isn't in the United States as 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:32.440 of yet. So let's prepare for a Jonathan rant. Everyone 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.920 just settled down because I'm going to get going. Mm hmm. 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.200 Can I go get a cup of water? You can 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:39.960 go for as long as you need to. I'll turn 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.480 a light on when it's when it's when, when I'm done. 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.040 So here's the deal, folks, here's here's how I see it. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.960 Cloud storage is just an extension of local storage. As 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.520 far as I'm concerned, that data is your data to 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.880 the limitations of whatever that data might be, and you 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.119 can access it whenever you like, as long as of 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.960 course there's a connection there. It's the same thing that 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.480 if that if you purchased an album or ripped a 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.760 c D and that music is on your hard drive. 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.000 There's no difference. I mean, the only difference is the distance. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.879 Instead of the hard drive being immediately adjacent to or 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:21.639 part of your computer, this drive is you know, potentially 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:26.040 thousands of miles away. But it's still just storage. There's 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.879 it's not like Amazon is his broadcasting new music or 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.439 music you do. You did not yourself put into that drive. 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.760 That's not happening. It's not it's not taking the music 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.119 that's in your drive and then sending you new stuff. 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.119 You know. That's kind of like what Pandora does. You know, 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.399 you create a station based upon a song you like, 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.200 in Pandora finds other songs that are similar, but Pandora 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.679 pays licensing fees for that because that's more of a 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:54.720 broadcast thing. This is really there's no difference between cloud 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.560 storage and having a server that's a thousand miles away 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.480 and having a thousand mile long cable connected you to 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:02.840 that server to listen to your music. You could have 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.879