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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson and Matt. Things have started to

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Speaker 1: happen in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean there's a title wave coming on Monday.

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Speaker 3: But this is the waves are coming and picking up

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Speaker 3: and doing damage and hitting us right in the face

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Speaker 3: all the team.

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Speaker 1: Right from today. Teams have a week to get under

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Speaker 1: the cap and do all their gap compliance and all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So we've seen some of those

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Speaker 1: moves start to be made. Yeah, Guys being released, guys

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Speaker 1: being traded, extensions, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Schefty's been busy. Yeah, and not just Shefty, we've seen.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I just tweeted this out a little

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Speaker 1: bit ago. Don't try us all if you don't trust

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Speaker 1: the source, if it's some somebody you've never heard of before, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: comes out with this. Sources tell me this. Just replace

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Speaker 1: sources with rumor exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Speculation, speculation, it's a guess, and people throw a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff against the wall, and you can scroll back

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Speaker 1: through the person's history and see what exactly they if

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Speaker 1: they've thrown out twenty five different scenarios out there, none

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Speaker 1: of which have happened.

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Speaker 3: If you're one for twenty five or what you're speculating,

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Speaker 3: schefter's different, that's that's stuff breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're something that's right, right. Yeah, they miss every

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Speaker 1: once in a while, but if you trust that source,

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Speaker 1: then it's you know, there's but somebody, just somebody who

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Speaker 1: just constantly throws stuff against the wall and hope something

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Speaker 1: one thing sticks and then the trumpet I was right

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Speaker 1: about this, Well what about the other forty things you

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Speaker 1: got wrong? Right?

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Speaker 4: Right? Right?

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Speaker 3: And we've all been guilty of this in our Twitter history,

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Speaker 3: but it's even more common now because anyone can buy

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Speaker 3: a check mark. It might be Adam Shifter or something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check maybe quote unquote source, make sure

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Speaker 1: because this is that time of year.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say that everybody wants to get the clicks

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Speaker 3: right now. But there's reason because there's a lot happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so all teams have been really active and it's just

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Speaker 1: So one of the first things I saw today was

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Speaker 1: Joe Thuni getting traded from the Chiefs to the Bears,

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Speaker 1: and they had just re signed Smith.

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Speaker 3: They franchised Smith, Yeah yeah, maybe yeah, And the Bears

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Speaker 3: had just traded for a guard the day before, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean I did a whole podcast on guards.

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Speaker 1: You know, from the chief standpoint, they were gonna need

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Speaker 1: a guard one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: If they let Smith walk, they were gonna have a

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Speaker 3: They were going to have the day the second the

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Speaker 3: They still do it different ones. I think their logic

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Speaker 3: is getting younger. Clearly you get all tune these moneies

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Speaker 3: off the book. And I don't know the dollars, but

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Speaker 3: whatever is like sixteen million, Okay, that's something. My hunch

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Speaker 3: That, So that buys you some time there. So neither

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Speaker 3: one of us are big on Jawan Taylor the right tackle,

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Speaker 3: but the right side of the line is done. Now

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Speaker 1: And they played Thony at left tackle. Now that option's

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Speaker 3: best case scenario. So they just kind of moved things around.

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Speaker 1: Me Dan Moore being a somebody that would work well.

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Speaker 3: I think there is gonna make a lot of money. Yes,

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Speaker 3: is exactly what Steeler fans want. Same with James Daniels,

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Speaker 3: like we have a long conversation about the Bears, and

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Speaker 3: which reminds me of two things. First of all, Jackson

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Speaker 1: We just spent thirty million dollars on two guards.

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Speaker 3: don't like the free agent guards. You know, as soon

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Speaker 3: picks to get the guys we want. Which brings you

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Speaker 3: back to the Steelers. They have a free agent guard too,

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Speaker 3: you know, like James Daniels is real happy how this went,

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Speaker 3: back to compis folks. That's why I'm sure that's what

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Speaker 1: I thought of doubt. I mean, I want to play

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Speaker 1: I want to play the comp game picks game this year,

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Speaker 1: And which brings me to some of these guys who

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Speaker 1: are going to be released we've already seen, you know.

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Speaker 1: For example, the Bengals released Alex Kampa what yesterday he

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Speaker 1: got picked up already, He's already signed a he's a Raider. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: got two years for eleven millions five and a half

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Speaker 1: had a bad year average average at best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his protection this year, right, So that's what you're

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Speaker 3: Daniel's gonna need a lot more than that.

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Speaker 1: Presuming he's healthy. Presuming he's healthy. Yeah, he's going to

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Speaker 1: have to past physical past physicals and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: So but that wasn't going to get paid. Damn Moore

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Speaker 3: He's just starting left tackle. Yeah, that's a compliment. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And better than what Kansas City played with last year

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Speaker 3: And then they would add a better chance. I mean

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, it's been much better than it was, much

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Speaker 1: I think we're getting closer to the point now. I

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Speaker 1: week to go before free agency begins. We get five

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Speaker 1: days before the tampering legal tampering Monday. Yeah, the Steelers

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, maybe any minute now, any day now.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a week from now. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's not going to be a week

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be no later than my guess would be.

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Speaker 1: They don't let this go into Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: I would think over the weekend at the latest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are offers being passed back and forth, and.

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Speaker 3: Now I have an inclination of which one it would be.

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Speaker 3: My hunch is Fields, but I don't know, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my guess would be Fields again because you

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Speaker 3: There aren't many seats available, or there are like six

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Speaker 3: seats available. Fields is going to be one of them,

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Speaker 3: whether it's here or somewhere else, in my opinion, And

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Speaker 3: but they need to put someone else in the seat

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Speaker 3: with them, you know, right.

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Speaker 1: I think realistically both Steeler quarterbacks from last year will

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be opening day starters. Yes, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if they'll play all seventeen. I kind of lean

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Speaker 3: to take over, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, because we got we had an

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Speaker 1: opportunity last week to see the quarterbacks. Well when I

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Shador Sanders coming out of this

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Speaker 1: He's the only quarterback in this draft that I think

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Speaker 3: Like I definitely could see one of the New York

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Speaker 3: If you're the Titans, though, is then you get abdel

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Speaker 3: I think it would be the worst move ever, and

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Speaker 3: I think Steeler fans should hope this happens. But Schefter

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. If they take Shador too, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a disaster. I think you're just begging for a disaster.

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Speaker 1: But that's kind of what they disaster like Tokyo and Godzilla.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about even first round quarterbacks putting them in

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Speaker 3: bad situations. It started with the first guy they ever

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Speaker 3: picked and Tim Couch. I mean they asked them to

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Speaker 3: carry a team that was an expansion team and ruined them,

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Speaker 3: you know, so I don't know if they've ever learned

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Speaker 1: Different quarter changed over the years. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that would be a disaster. That would be the only

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Speaker 1: way I think. I think that's the only way shoudor

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Speaker 1: Sanders goes in the top five.

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Speaker 3: Probably, But it's such a quarterback. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: the Giants have to get one.

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Speaker 1: If they think they're the most likely team to trade up.

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Speaker 3: I do too, because don't think it cost you that

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Speaker 1: his Fears Bob Labriola. How you doing, Labs?

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Speaker 4: Do you boys behave yourself an Indie? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, we behaved as well as you would have.

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Speaker 3: They just don't, So Labs, I've kind of said, you know,

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Speaker 3: Dale and I have talked about this a lot over

436
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 3: the last months, as you could believe that, I think

437
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: we could all make a case for Russell Wilson and

438
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: could make a case for Fields. What would be your

439
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: case for both players? And would you lean a certain

440
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: direction or have a hunch how it's going to go

441
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: or what what are your thoughts on both?

442
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 4: I would lean towards Fields for you know that, and

443
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 4: would I consider a significant reason. He's way younger, way younger,

444
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 4: And I really liked a lot of the things that

445
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: I saw from Fields last year. I think that he

446
00:21:53,280 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 4: showed a professionalism, a maturity, a team kind of first

447
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 4: attitude that you're looking for in the position. And that

448
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 4: I mentioned he's younger ten years. He's ten years younger, right,

449
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: and he's not five ten and never will be right,

450
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 4: And so you know, That's that's the way I would

451
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: lean in terms of, you know, Russell Wilson a case

452
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 4: you know for him. I mean we've we've I think

453
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: we've litigated that throughout this past season. But the case

454
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 4: against him now, in my mind, is what I have

455
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 4: mentioned a couple of times, his age and his height,

456
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: and when you compare the two, or excuse me, combine

457
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 4: the two, you know what, will Russell Wilson accomplished a

458
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: lot in this league at his height, He hasn't got

459
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 4: a lot shorter since he came into the NFL as

460
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 4: a third round pick, I think it was. But he's

461
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 4: not as nimble or as durable as he was then

462
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 4: to be able to do the things that he did

463
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 4: then to compensate for being five ten, and so you know,

464
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 4: it's just it's I think the other thing is this

465
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson is a arguably I won't call him a

466
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 4: lock for the Hall of Fame, but he's arguably a

467
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame player. He put together a Hall of

468
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: Fame career, but he didn't do it here. You know,

469
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 4: people who expect this guy to have total the whole

470
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 4: offensive menu available to him for audibles. You know, Ben

471
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: had that, but Ben did a lot of stuff here,

472
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 4: you know, the emotional bank, his emotional bank account was filled.

473
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: You know, Russell Wilson is a new guy in Pittsburgh,

474
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 4: and so there has to be a it's just it

475
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: just is, It's just the way it works. There has

476
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 4: to be a trust built between in the sense, in

477
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 4: the situation of a quarterback, trust has to be built

478
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 4: among the player, the coordinator, and the head coach. And

479
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think I saw this quote. I

480
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 4: thought it was interesting. Brian Schadenheimer. He was in Denver

481
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Speaker 4: when Russell Wilson was in Denver.

482
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Speaker 1: I think, yes, he was the coordinator in Seattle at

483
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Speaker 1: the end, oh, at the end.

484
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 4: Right, And he said one of the mistakes that he

485
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: made was quote letting Russ cook too much, because at

486
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: the end he's not that, He's not that guy anymore.

487
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: And Pete Carroll knew it.

488
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's won a lot of games, and Pete Carroll

489
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: knew it.

490
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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, And you know, you just can't, I don't know,

491
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: you can't continue to try and you know, expect or

492
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: plan for play from a player based on his prime

493
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: which might have been nine eight years earlier. So you know,

494
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: I think that it's it would be better to go younger,

495
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: but I also do I will say this, I think

496
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 4: it would be better to go back to Russell Wilson

497
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: than do what you did last year and blow up

498
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: the whole depth chart at the position, or you know,

499
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: go into training camp with a Kyle Allen, Skuyler Thompson

500
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: competition for the starting job. I don't want to draft

501
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: a number one quarterback a quarterback on the first round

502
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 4: this year, and I don't know that there are any

503
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 4: that are worthy of Well, let me say this, I

504
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: don't think that there are any who could realistically be

505
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 4: there at twenty one who will be worth the pick.

506
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: You couldn't see Aaron Rodgers, could you. I just have

507
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: a heart.

508
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: Oh god, no, no, I'm I'm you.

509
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: Know, it sounds like, oh god, no, no.

510
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: Wednesday, if I would go to church, I would light

511
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 4: a candle, please God, not Aaron.

512
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: That would probably Bob Labriola retirement.

513
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: You know, I just don't see any point in that.

514
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that, any point in that

515
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: five years ago, five years ago that would have made

516
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: sense when well.

517
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: It wouldn't have happened five years That's the thing.

518
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: Like people people remember, Oh, Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers

519
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: were winket in each other on the sidelines, you know,

520
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: and and Aaron was on the field, you know, five

521
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: six years ago. Yeah, he was still an MVP back then, right.

522
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: Respect you know, not anymore so well, and you know,

523
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: just the money that those guys are going to command.

524
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: It's just again, I don't think that that's an efficient

525
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: use of you know, salary cap dollars and or draft capital.

526
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 4: If you've got a trade for the guy, which would

527
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: be really ridiculous in my mind, one of those kind

528
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: of forty fifty million dollar a year players, then you

529
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: have to give up you know, multiple picks for I

530
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: just I mean this, I wouldn't go that way. I

531
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: just wouldn't.

532
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a two horse race then, huh?

533
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's what I think is is that

534
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: it's as I said, I think the Steelers want to

535
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: have identified and signed the better of the Russell Wilson

536
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: justin fields option. Uh and then you know, go into

537
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 4: the rest of your free agency like that. I mean,

538
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 4: that's what I that's what I believe that that the

539
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: team's hope slash plan is if that doesn't happen.

540
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Uh as Omar said, everything's on the table.

541
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 4: Everything's on the table, and I don't know what's going

542
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: to happen.

543
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: He had that, I wouldn't go. That was actually his his,

544
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: he just had. He should have had that on recording

545
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: and just hit it every time because he said it

546
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: about fifteen times, because he got asked about it fifteen

547
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: different ways. Like everything's on the table, everything's on the table.

548
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be.

549
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: It should be.

550
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 4: It has to be. And I think that everything's on

551
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: the table with receivings agency, you know what is realistic,

552
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: what you can afford, what what do you get for

553
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: your money? I mean, you investigate all that stuff, but

554
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: you know it's it's not it's not a video game.

555
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: So I think you have to understand and incorporate you know,

556
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: personalities or you know, whatever it is that it has

557
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: to be a good fit. You know, I don't want

558
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: any more, can't be anymore Melvin Ingram's and blunts. I mean,

559
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: that's just not that doesn't work. So you know, everything

560
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: is going to be on the table. I don't know.

561
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: Then in that case, if the Steelers have to go

562
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: to whatever it is playing c at quarterback. I don't

563
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: know that it's going to happen right away, but I

564
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: think they want to get something done in a timely manner,

565
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: kind of like the Mitch Trubisky thing, you know, in

566
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: that kind of time frame, because again, you've got to

567
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: have that for if you're going to try and fill

568
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: in some other areas on offense guys just you know,

569
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 4: right and money talks and everything. But you know, if

570
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: unless you know, I couldn't see a receiver come going

571
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: to a team with no clear answer at.

572
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: Quarterback with an empty quarterback room, well, well I'm gonna

573
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: sign Devanta Adams is gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna sign

574
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: with the Steelers.

575
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: They've got Skylar Thompson on the.

576
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: And that's the only guys they have on the payroll right.

577
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: Now, right. I mean, you would have your offer would

578
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: have to be ten million dollars a year more than

579
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: everybody else to get a player, and then you can't

580
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: do that. So that's why, you know, I really think

581
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: that the quarterback thing has to be worked out. And

582
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, I think where we are right now is

583
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 4: this with fields he can I don't really see either,

584
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: Well I don't see fielders can't signing a contract before

585
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: they even get to the legal tampering period, because at

586
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: least then he can get he can gauge his market

587
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: a little bit, right, Uh. And then the Steelers also

588
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: will have some idea of what other teams are willing

589
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: to pay, and then you can have a real negotiation.

590
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: You know. Now now you've got I think some real numbers,

591
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: some concrete numbers in terms of what teams are with.

592
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: You know, what the what a guy's market is is

593
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: and what he thinks he's worth. It's what a team

594
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: is willing to pay. So then you'll have some idea

595
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 4: of his market value. Uh.

596
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: And then maybe some team out there that's gonna way

597
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: overpay him.

598
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: Well, then if he then again then it comes down

599
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: to his Uh, the player's decision on does he think

600
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: he does he want to start over for a third time?

601
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: And what's probably a bad team, it's not a playoff team,

602
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: the Jets.

603
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: Probably a team or do you think you got a

604
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: better shot coming back? You know, maybe he likes playing

605
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: for Mike Tomlin. Maybe there's some sort of understanding that

606
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: has developed with him and Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator.

607
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: You know, maybe he likes Tom Arth the quarterbacks coach

608
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: living in Pittsburgh. I don't know, you know, he's gonna

609
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: have to decide what's best for his life and the

610
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: future of his career and then then, you know, and

611
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: up until then, you know, I think we just waited out.

612
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: My personal opinion is and this is just me as

613
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: you know, Dale calls me the lord of living in

614
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: my fears, I would not want to start over again.

615
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: I don't think and I didn't if you're him, if

616
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: you're him, from him, I don't want.

617
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: Every year of his life. Do you really want to

618
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: do that again?

619
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: Right? You know? It just and he's not going to

620
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: get I don't think whatever you know, ridiculous number he

621
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: might get from a rogue team. I don't think it's

622
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: going to be a you know, a Dak Prescott kind

623
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: of you know, into the future, sets you up for

624
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: life kind of contract where they can't cut you and

625
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: get out of it. I mean, you know, how much

626
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: is going to be guaranteed? How much is a team

627
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: going to be willing to guarantee to you right to

628
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: start over again? Who you know what was he ten

629
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: and twenty eight as a starter in Chicago? Yeah, he

630
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: was four and two last year. But as I you know,

631
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: even he admitted that he wasn't good enough to hold

632
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: on to that job, which I think is rare vision

633
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: for someone of his age. And so I also, though,

634
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: think that that's a feather in his cap. If I'm

635
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: evaluating him from the Steelers standpoint, he seems he doesn't

636
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: seem to be.

637
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: You know, self aware, over in love with.

638
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 4: Himself, you know, believe that he's something that he's not.

639
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: Is that a.

640
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: Dangerous game to play, though, labs? If you go into

641
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: Monday an illegal tampering period, I mean, you could obviously

642
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: nobody signed pen to paper yet at that point, but

643
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: you could if let's say, for example, you go into

644
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Monday and you and you've got you both, you got

645
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: both guys, You've got offers out to both guys, and

646
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, within ten minutes of each other

647
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: or five minutes of each other, they both get offers

648
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: that are better than the offer that you make them,

649
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: and they both agree to, yeah, we're going to do that.

650
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Now what.

651
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, then you're into play and see I mean,

652
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Speaker 4: but I don't I.

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Speaker 1: Guess what I would like to have something if I'm

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Speaker 1: the if if if I'm art raining the second and

655
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Speaker 1: I'm obviously I'm not or I'm Omar Kahn or Mike Tomlin.

656
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Speaker 1: I would like to have somebody with an agreement in hand. No,

657
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Speaker 1: no later than Sunday night.

658
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Speaker 4: But I think you don't want your offer to be

659
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Speaker 4: you know, okay, let's say you know, you end up

660
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Speaker 4: in order to convince their side to get the deal

661
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Speaker 4: done without checking out legal tampering. What do you got

662
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Speaker 4: to be ten million dollars a year higher than what

663
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Speaker 4: they think they might get there? I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 4: doing that.

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Speaker 1: What if it's not? What if I get up, I

666
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Speaker 1: buught my offer by five million just to have that.

667
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Speaker 4: Well, now we're back. Now we're back to what I

668
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: said before. It comes down to the player's decision on

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Speaker 4: what he values. It's because again, well yeah, I know,

670
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Speaker 4: but you know it's what it is. I mean, that's

671
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Speaker 4: the way the game is played. If if I'm Justin

672
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Speaker 4: Fields's agent, I'm not. I'm not caving before the legal

673
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Speaker 4: tampering period for you know, a Vito Corleone offer for

674
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Speaker 4: something that's not that you know.

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Speaker 1: I just also know that I don't. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get stuck drafting or having Daniel Jones as my

677
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Speaker 1: quarterback next year.

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Speaker 4: Again, I get all of that, but I mean, if

679
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Speaker 4: you know, I remember Dan Rooney telling me back when

680
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Speaker 4: they put together this salary caps thing. He said, the

681
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 4: day you can never overpay for great players. Great players

682
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Speaker 4: are great, you need them to win. Where you get

683
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Speaker 4: in trouble is overpaying for the other guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with any of that, but quarterback to

685
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: me is a little different position. And when you don't

686
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Speaker 1: have one, you don't have one.

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Speaker 4: And I get it, Yeah, but what's worse. What's worse

688
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Speaker 4: for you as a team overpaying and maybe crippling your

689
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: cap for this year, or you know, going to play

690
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: and see doing what you can do and then you

691
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Speaker 4: see where you are in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Labs quarterback aside, assuming you join us next Wednesday at

693
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Speaker 3: four to twenty, I'm going to go out on a

694
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Speaker 3: limb here and say the Steelers have acquired a wide

695
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: receiver that everybody listening has heard of. That doesn't mean

696
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: he's the best player in the league. But Cooper Kop,

697
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: Christian Kirk, somebody, you think that's safe to say that

698
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: that's going to happen sooner?

699
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Speaker 4: Ish Well, what I believe is safe to say is

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Speaker 4: if that happens, they will have a quarterback. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that happens first.

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00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, okay, and if it doesn't, then what you

703
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: said has no chance.

704
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Speaker 1: Of happening in my right, right right, there's a more

705
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: there's a better chance that if they if they don't

706
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Speaker 1: have anything done on the offensive side of the ball,

707
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Speaker 1: they have a cornerback at the very least signed by Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine when we talk next week there's not

709
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Speaker 3: a quarterback act. And I bet there's a receiver too.

710
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Speaker 4: Well again, I mean if the quarterback gets done, then

711
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: to me, I think it might be one or the other.

712
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: Early a receiver or a corner I don't think you

713
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Speaker 4: get both. I mean just there's just not enough time

714
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Speaker 4: I don't think to spend on that kind of deal.

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Speaker 1: They've been pretty pretty active though the last The last

716
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Speaker 1: couple of years have been like it used to be

717
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Speaker 1: when when you covered the Steelers, you could pretty much

718
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Speaker 1: take the first couple of weeks of free agency off

719
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: because the only news that you were writing about was

720
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Speaker 1: who who from the Steelers was signing elsewhere. These last

721
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Speaker 1: couple of years have been pretty damn active and people

722
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Speaker 1: don't bring you guys in for visits.

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Speaker 4: For twenty next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Well, they'll be agreements like you get you.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, at four twenty next Wednesday, you're going

726
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Speaker 4: to have a receiver sign that everybody's heard of and

727
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: a cornerback sign that everybody's heard.

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Speaker 1: Well, the agreements could have been the agreements could have

729
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Speaker 1: been done before that, and you've officially signed him at

730
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Speaker 1: four o'clock on Wednesday. I don't know the deadline. I

731
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Speaker 1: mean they're like locked up. I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much caffeine Omar has in his office. Again,

733
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Speaker 4: he's got to get the quarterback thing done first.

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Speaker 1: That's why. That's why has coal on Cole on staff

735
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Speaker 1: to get all that, all the minutia worked out. I

736
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Speaker 1: think there'll be a QB and a WR.

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Speaker 4: You're starting you're starting to sound like my submissions to

738
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Speaker 4: ask and answered. You know, I mean, let's get all

739
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: of this done and uh, you know by the time

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Speaker 4: the next commercial break is over, if you don't mind,

741
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: because you know, I need to get back to uh

742
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: the latest episode of Get Up on ESPN or or

743
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 4: even better.

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Speaker 3: I think that's how we started a segment the microwave generation.

745
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: We can't wait for the cake, right yeah?

746
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: So uh Hey, like I said, if we're talking next

747
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: week at four twenty and the Steelers have a quarterback,

748
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: I'm happy with that, you know, one step at a time.

749
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Speaker 1: Well, with that, Bob, we will let you go and

750
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Speaker 1: you can go bake a cake and hopefully take your

751
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: time doing so. Maybe some tier Tierra Massoux or something

752
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: any of that.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I've never been I'm not a

754
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 4: coffee flavor. Yeah, it's never been a tear Tierra Massou guy.

755
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: You know, well, whatever whatever it is, you think it's

756
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 4: something for dessert.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Our guest has been Bob Labriola, editor

758
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: of Steelers Digestive, Steelers dot Com and the Dean of

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00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: Doom and lord of living in his fears. He's Matt Williamson.

760
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. We are listening here to the Drive

761
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

762
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 4: At least.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And welcome back, I and Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson And that's a fun little conversation with Lab.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely missed it last week being at the Combine.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Juey often had talked with Labs at the Combine. Yeah,

772
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Speaker 1: and I think he's hung up.

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Speaker 3: His Combine days were probably about Yeah, they're pretty much done.

774
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just missing out. It's it's an interesting

775
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: conundrum for me. It really is if if you take

776
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: this thing too long into the that legal tampering period

777
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: again and he's talking, you know, as Labs mentioned, you

778
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: only have so many, you know, so many guys who

779
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: negotiate contracts, so many guys you do, you know, do

780
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: with different things. What happens if fields and within five

781
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: we meant to lose out to real quick, within five

782
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: minutes of the legal tampering period opening, both of those

783
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: guys get get contract offers.

784
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Speaker 3: And something I've never been privy to but always curious about,

785
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: is how do actual contract negotiations happen, especially during that period,

786
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: Like you with your own you know, you could have

787
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: started it the day after the You're eliminated or whatever

788
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: you could. I mean, I'm sure this is not the

789
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: first time they talked.

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00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: Is right now. We're going on for months.

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00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, does it get to the point where

792
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: the Steelers say sign it or else? I mean, here's

793
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: our deadline for you. I would have a deadline on that.

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00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that's not crazy to ask. Yeah,

795
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, I like, guys day at midnight is right, Yeah,

796
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: Sunday at midnight. We need to have one of U

797
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: two under contract because we can't go into that legal

798
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: tampering period because what if, for example, what if Wilson

799
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: signs somewhere or Grease somewhere else, Sure he's a jet

800
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, and now all of a sudden, Fields gets

801
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: an offer that's ten million more per year than what

802
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: you were offering. Right right, But I hear Wilson's already

803
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Speaker 1: out the door.

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Speaker 3: And what I don't quite have a great grasp of

805
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: is who has the upper hand here, Because we just

806
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: laid it out. There's six teams of these quarterbacks. Of

807
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: these two are period of the it's.

808
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: The musical chairs that we talk about every year with

809
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Speaker 1: the criterback position, and I think.

810
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Speaker 3: They're going to fill one where some years it's like,

811
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Speaker 3: well there's six chairs and seven quarterbacks. Wow, then I'm

812
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: taking my chair. Yeah right now, though I could make

813
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Speaker 3: the case if I'm their agent, that hey, you two

814
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: are one of the six, you might as well wait

815
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Speaker 3: and listen.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what That's my biggest situation that

817
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: scares me is that again, somebody goes out there looks

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Speaker 1: at let's say, let's say, for example, the Steers do

819
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: want Justin Fields more than Russell Wilson. Okay, I understand it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they want one more than the other. Right,

821
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Speaker 3: I mean that that we know.

822
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Speaker 1: But let's say let's say Field's agent is just saying, hey,

823
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Speaker 1: let's let's go test the market and see team. I

824
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: had a conversation and these things take place.

825
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: And we could pretend like there's never any shadiness that

826
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Speaker 3: ever happens. But they're probably the Jets.

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Speaker 1: The Jets really really want you. Yeah, yeah, and they're

828
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: going to offer you a million no matter what where

829
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Speaker 1: the Steelers go with this, they're going to offer you

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00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: a million dollars or two million dollars per year more, were.

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Speaker 3: Ten percent more? Just show me the contract. I'll give

832
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Speaker 3: you ten percent more. Pretty appealing, especially to live in

833
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Speaker 3: New York, but so especially if you're.

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields, who hasn't made the money that Russell Wilson

835
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Speaker 1: has to much different situation. It's much different celebrity. Yeah, yeah,

836
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Speaker 1: right right, I mean, no question, but I could understand

837
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Speaker 1: Fields taking the money in that situation, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But I do think there's something to be said too,

839
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Speaker 3: for it would sure be nice for the first time

840
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Speaker 3: in my life to know the offense the day the

841
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 3: league opens.

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Speaker 1: You know, I understand that as well. I mean I

843
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: get both sides, so I don't know. And the other

844
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: thing is, but if you if you get an agent

845
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: who's just chasing the dollars, right, because that's free agency

846
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: is about money. Free agency is about money. Yeah, and

847
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: Fields has never been through it before, right, right, he's

848
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Speaker 1: never been a free agent.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what his I don't know the agent's

850
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: well enough of what their trends are or what they's thing.

851
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: Though.

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00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: The agent, while he has the best interest of his

853
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: client in mind, he gets a percent He gets a

854
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: percentage of the contract, so he's going to push for

855
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: the more. Hey, take this team's offering, you know, five

856
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: million dollars more over the course of the contract. Why

857
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: don't you take that one? Because that's yeah, more money

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Speaker 1: in his.

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00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: Potet in his pocket, right or or along those lines too.

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Speaker 3: If you stay in Pittsburgh, justin two years from now,

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00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: you might be a you might be really up there,

862
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, like if if you can kind

863
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: of bet on yourself incentive laden deal here and then

864
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: you're truly a free agent. In two years, you got

865
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: a playoff win. You know, you're starting to turn things around,

866
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Speaker 3: You're taking those steps forward, You're comfortable, organizations going the

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Speaker 3: right way.

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna be really wealthy.

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Speaker 3: You know, Like I see all sides of it, I

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Speaker 3: really do.

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Speaker 1: It's just the thing. It's a conundrum. It really is.

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Speaker 4: It really is.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing about the NFL and free agency

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Speaker 3: is I believe that there's some organizations that just aren't

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Speaker 3: as smart as others. And not coincidentally, they're the teams

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Speaker 3: that are not winning a lot of games at the

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Speaker 3: moment and don't have a quarterback. I mean, of those

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Speaker 3: six teams, only one is a playoff team, and that's

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Speaker 3: the one we're talking about. Sometimes those teams get desperate

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Speaker 3: or are dumb and just give you an obscene contract.

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Speaker 1: What the Titans did in free agency last year, right

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Speaker 1: right right, They spent it. They spent as much, if

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Speaker 1: not more, than any other team out there. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: a great example with no quarterback can place and they're

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Speaker 1: picking first in a draft this year.

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Speaker 3: Like Darius Sneed's a nice player, but they gave up

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Speaker 3: what ends up now the first pick in the third

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Speaker 3: round to the Chiefs and a huge contract for him

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Speaker 3: to earn the first pick.

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Speaker 1: Over because the GM and the head coach were like,

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Speaker 1: the head coach had already been fired right now. The

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Speaker 1: GM's in his position where, Okay, we got to win

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Speaker 1: this year or I'm getting fired.

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Speaker 3: Like the Giants management basically said, we are getting a

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Speaker 3: quarterback this year. Well, Joe Shane's like, I'm getting a

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Speaker 3: quarterback this year. It's not my money, and I know

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Speaker 3: I'm getting fired if I don't, so gotta do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. If I mean it's trading too

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Speaker 3: much to get to one or given too much for

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Speaker 3: Wilson or Fields, They're gonna do it, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's who you're competing against.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I like to saying that the greatest swordsman in the

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Speaker 3: world isn't afraid of the second greatest swordsman. He's afraid

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Speaker 3: of the irrational swordsman or the one that's nothing to lose,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 1: It was always when I was playing basketball all the time,

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Speaker 1: I didn't mind playing against other good players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the player who wasn't good and therefore might

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Speaker 1: undercut you when you're going for a layup and do

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Speaker 1: something that you totally weren't expected. Yeah yeah, other good

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Speaker 1: players don't do that. It's a bad player who all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden runs underneath your legs when you're going

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Speaker 1: up for a layup and knocks you on your head.

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Speaker 1: That's where you get into trouble.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, So I think there's something to be said

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Speaker 3: for that when you're competing against these teams that are desperate,

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Speaker 3: have no job security, more.

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Speaker 1: Mining they know what to do with or aren't real rational.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so I would love to see them

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Speaker 3: get one locked up asap with that. I'm sure they

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Speaker 3: would too, but I see why both camps might not

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Speaker 3: agree on that.

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Speaker 1: Without a doubt. Let's get to a break that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for our number one of the drive

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Speaker 1: here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, Now, I'll be

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Speaker 1: back with our number two right after this