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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: Single best idea with really really good conversations today. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for David Gura, just in from Aspen where he

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Speaker 2: was at the Defense Conference, interviewing Robert Gates, Robert Zellick

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Speaker 2: and Michael Frohman. The two together, Zellick and Frohman on

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Speaker 2: trade is just exquisite. Look for that out at the

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Speaker 2: Big Take. It's really really an important interview. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'll dub it right now. It's the interview of July

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Speaker 2: across all of Bloomberg, Zellick and Frohman with David Gera

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Speaker 2: on the Big Take. Our interview at the moment was

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Speaker 2: Stuart Kaiser at City Group. I think we're in a bullmarket.

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Speaker 2: He writes these really complex pro future forward, lots of

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Speaker 2: mumbo jumbo jargon stuff. And I asked him about the quants,

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Speaker 2: the guys with a black box.

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Speaker 3: On the quant side. These are folks that you know

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Speaker 3: are really investing very systematically in box. Some I mean

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't tell you they understand the box. You know

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Speaker 3: from a distance, we don't. Why are they, you know,

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Speaker 3: having some trouble. I would say that the s and

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Speaker 3: P five hundred, realized volatility is below ten percent right now,

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Speaker 3: so the S and P is not moving very much.

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Speaker 3: The factors that are quant my trade style stocks, value stocks,

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Speaker 3: grow stocks, those have been incredibly volatile, much more violatile

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Speaker 3: than the S and P five hundred itself. So if

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Speaker 3: quants are under pressure, it's because the market isn't moving

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Speaker 3: very much, but the tools they use are and that

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Speaker 3: sort of dislocation can be really tricky for them.

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Speaker 2: Start Kaiser and let me pause there and talk about

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Speaker 2: the idea. And when I came to Bloomberg got shocked

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Speaker 2: by this. Where all economists are the same, They're not.

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Speaker 2: I think we sort of understand it. Academic economists people

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Speaker 2: like Adam Posen at a think tank, or Ken Rogoff

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Speaker 2: up at.

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Speaker 4: Harvard, and others.

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Speaker 2: Market economists that are very different, like Michael ferole on

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Speaker 2: today from JP Morgan on the strategist side, and particularly

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Speaker 2: he's strategist.

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Speaker 4: Again, there's all different shades. There's twenty eight flavors of

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Speaker 4: equity strategy. In Stuart Kaiser is on a trading desk

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Speaker 4: with risk in play, wicked short term. It's City Group.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of like that TV show. Industry in London

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Speaker 4: or even like Billions. It's like sort of like what

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Speaker 4: you see Hollywood fake at It's City Group, except with

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Speaker 4: Stuart Kaiser it's a real deal. So he's looking at

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Speaker 4: incredible short term ideas. Brian Belski is a different flavor.

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Speaker 4: It helps at Belski's been incredibly right about a bull market,

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Speaker 4: but Brian Belski is looking much more long term, at

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Speaker 4: the understanding that people have long term investment and they

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Speaker 4: may have short term speculation, which is a trade of

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Speaker 4: six months or a year or dare I say long

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Speaker 4: term for Belski's maybe an eighteen month view. Here Brian

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Speaker 4: Bell's SI of Bemo Capital Markets on the moment at hand.

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Speaker 1: Well, because it is emotion it's not based on the facts.

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Speaker 1: You want to buy these companies that are masterful in

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Speaker 1: their craft, that have amazing management teams, that have great

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Speaker 1: cash flow, and have I would say binary decisions made

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Speaker 1: about them that everybody agrees on, I e. We're never

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Speaker 1: gonna use Search again, which is which is ridiculous and oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, searches up in the quarter. We actually

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Speaker 1: double down on Google and we added it to our

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Speaker 1: value portfolio because we love to buy broken growth. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but when the stock was down in April, we put

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Speaker 1: it in our value portfolio. Why because it's a broken.

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Speaker 4: Growth see Apple of Broken Growth story.

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Speaker 1: No, I think Apple is a cash machine. You never

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Speaker 1: want to ever bet against the US consumer. And let's

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Speaker 1: let's put a semi coal in space and you never

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Speaker 1: want to bet against Apple.

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Speaker 4: Brian Belski for too short a visit.

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Speaker 2: We'll get him in for a much, much longer visit

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Speaker 2: here in the coming days and weeks. I'll be honest, folks,

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Speaker 2: Like the banks, I was interested tech was like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: big deal. After what I saw from Google yesterday, I

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Speaker 2: am really to what we're going to see in technology

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Speaker 2: in the coming ten days. With the leadership of Caroline

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