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Speaker 1: I'm still going to give it several months to try

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Speaker 2: That was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natanyahu's speaking to Bloomberg

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, as protests against the controversial judicial reforms continue

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Speaker 2: for the thirty first week. Here to discuss is Democratic

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Speaker 2: from Israel, where it is later than midnight. So Congresswoman,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for staying up late for us

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Speaker 2: here at Bloomberg. What are you doing in Israel? Who

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm on an education trip with fellow members of Congress,

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Speaker 3: learning about Israel, some who are here for the first

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Speaker 3: time as members of Congress, which is very exciting, learning

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Speaker 3: about our allied relationship as two democracies who share a

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Speaker 3: lot in common with economic development, trade, innovation, certainly national

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Speaker 3: security and defense. And we're on our second full day

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Speaker 4: You're on this codel, which I know is part of

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Speaker 4: including as you mentioned, the Democratic leader in the House congresswomen,

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Speaker 3: Well, the good news is is we've already met with

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Speaker 3: because there's a lot of conversation taking place around the

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Speaker 3: and it's important to remember that Israel is a democracy.

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Speaker 3: A third of the country has been protesting these judicial

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Speaker 3: million Americans protesting for thirty two weeks straight. This is

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Speaker 3: democracy in action that needs to be recognized, particularly as

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Speaker 2: But if it is a democracy, to your point, Congresswoman,

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Speaker 3: Well, I agree with Minority Leader King Jeffries, who expressed

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Speaker 5: There is peaceful protests.

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Speaker 3: Certainly happening in parts of this country. But it is

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Speaker 3: Who is going to lead the free world for the

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Speaker 5: That's the competition that I'm engaged in.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm working on as a member of Congress,

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Speaker 3: He didn't ask for direct help, but he did spend

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Speaker 5: Protesters who were put to death.

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Speaker 3: Iran is not far The funding tourists that you know

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Speaker 5: We need to wake up to the reality.

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Speaker 2: All right, Congressman, while you are on this trip abroad,

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Speaker 6: My message is Stlantis is very simple, quit with the games,

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Speaker 6: stop with the lies, and start bargaining in agreement that

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Speaker 2: Congressman, what would this mean for Michigan if this ends

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm certainly not going to get ahead of the

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Speaker 5: We don't want to see a strike.

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Speaker 3: We do want to see the UAW workers heard out

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Speaker 5: I have a lot of respect for.

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Speaker 4: I spoke just on Friday with the Acting Secretary of

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Speaker 4: She made it pretty clear that the White House does

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly as a lawmaker who cares about this deeply

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Speaker 5: Now do they get in the middle.

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Speaker 3: As a as a lawmaker, I've been I've been wrestling

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Speaker 3: that message of equity and inclusion, a fairness of labor

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Speaker 3: So in some ways, I'm really fired up. I'm excited

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Speaker 4: Well, we can feel your passion from here. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: staying up late for as Congresswoman, the Democrat from Michigan,

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Speaker 4: Haley Stevens with a sun balance of power once again,

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Speaker 4: Safe travels getting home,