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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so

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Speaker 3: will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. On our

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Speaker 3: episode today, we're going to explore a story that is

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Speaker 3: both deeply personal and powerfully evidential. It focuses on filmmaker

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Speaker 3: Peter Alessandria's core human story of transformation through loss, a

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Speaker 3: journey from grief to knowing that will connect instantly with

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Speaker 3: anyone who has navigated grief. But his personal quest for

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Speaker 3: proof led him to create something fascinating. He asked dozens

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Speaker 3: of mediums, near death experiences and spiritual people who had

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Speaker 3: never met the same thirty six questions about what happens

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Speaker 3: when we die. He's combined all of this into his

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Speaker 3: new film, Every Soul Knows, the joy of remembering.

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Speaker 5: Who we really are.

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Speaker 3: You can watch it on his website, Everysoulnows dot com.

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Speaker 3: But let's dive right in and meet Peter.

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Speaker 5: I've been a spiritual seeker probably for thirty five years now.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to know the answers to the bigger questions,

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Speaker 5: who are we? Where do we come from? And I guess,

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Speaker 5: most importantly, what happens after we leave this place. Over

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Speaker 5: the years, I've informally studied many different spiritual traditions, kind

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Speaker 5: of metaphysics, all kinds of different things, just to educate

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Speaker 5: myself and honestly, to alleviate some of the suffering in

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Speaker 5: this quest. It all came to a head in twenty

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Speaker 5: can't say I was an atheist, but I didn't have

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Speaker 5: a firm grasp of the whole idea of spirituality in

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Speaker 5: the afterlife. And so when my dad passed, right around

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Speaker 5: that time, I read a novel called Adventures in the

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Speaker 5: Afterlife and it was written by a guy named William Bulman,

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Speaker 5: and I was working on the screenplay. My intention is

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Speaker 5: to turn that into a future film. And so while

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Speaker 5: your podcast, educating myself on your death experiences and other

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Speaker 5: spiritually transformative experiences. And then twenty twenty rolled around, the

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Speaker 5: and Christian has a pre birth memory and he shares

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Speaker 5: So it really forced me because now I'm bringing a

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Speaker 3: to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades

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Speaker 3: But you present so many different topics and so many

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Speaker 3: what is a soul? There's big topics and great stories

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Speaker 10: but from a spiritual perspective, there is no death. The

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Speaker 10: soul will go on far beyond this body.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the messages I was sent back with.

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Speaker 3: Go back and tell them life is eternal, there is

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Speaker 3: no death. Many people believe that when they pass through

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Speaker 3: death's door that there's some sort of change and energy.

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Speaker 5: There's not.

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Speaker 8: There's a saying that wherever you go there you are

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Speaker 8: even to the other side.

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Speaker 5: And NIC see you.

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Speaker 11: I have the opportunity to see a lot of death.

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Speaker 11: I can feel many times when a patient makes their

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Speaker 11: transition that on the other end, there's a great sense

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Speaker 11: of release.

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Speaker 5: Death for the.

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Speaker 11: One dying and for those around them, is an opportunity

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Speaker 11: to remember that we are so much more, and that

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Speaker 11: which we are continues forever.

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Speaker 12: It is not a final end. I have experienced it

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Speaker 12: for myself. I have direct personal knowledge that your self

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Speaker 12: within you moves on.

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Speaker 5: When we transition, our spirit guides try to make it

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Speaker 5: as comfortable for us as possible, so people who believe

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Speaker 5: in the pearly Gates or.

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Speaker 3: Something like that will have that sort of setup for

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Speaker 3: them to experience.

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Speaker 5: I've seen many Eastern cultures where death is just a

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Speaker 5: part of life, because there's an understanding that there's a

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Speaker 5: continuation of consciousness.

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Speaker 13: What we leave behind is this physical dead body and

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Speaker 13: were reborn into a conscious life that is the real,

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Speaker 13: true life, our true home. When you transition over and

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Speaker 13: you have the ability to look back, it's almost as

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Speaker 13: though it was dull and dead all along. What you

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Speaker 13: transition to is pure joy. The failing of life is indescribable.

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Speaker 13: It's as though you truly have been reborn.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know you didn't get to see the folks who

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Speaker 3: said these nice words on the website. You'll be able

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Speaker 3: to see their names and who they are in the world, mediums,

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Speaker 3: near death experiencers and so on. When we get back,

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Speaker 3: you're going to hear more from the film Every Soul Knows.

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Speaker 3: With a medical doctor, you'll hear his near death experience

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Speaker 3: that changed his life.

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Speaker 5: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back

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Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're

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Speaker 3: here with author and filmmaker Peter Alessandria, and he's gifted

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Speaker 3: us a segment of his film. Now you can only

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Speaker 3: listen to it, I know, but it will still make

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Speaker 3: a difference. This next portion is doctor Tony Sechoria, and

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Speaker 3: the piano music playing is significant, so let's listen.

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Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety four, Tony Sechoria, a surgeon and medical doctor,

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Speaker 5: was struck by lightning during a family outing. During his

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Speaker 5: near death experience, Tony discovered that there is no death

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Speaker 5: and that the soul continues after the loss of the body.

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Speaker 1: I was out at the barbecue doing my job, and

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Speaker 1: I remembered that I hadn't called my mother that day,

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Speaker 1: who was quite elderly. I walked around the building and

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Speaker 1: there was a payphone on the other side, and I

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Speaker 1: put in her number and let it ring five or

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Speaker 1: six times, and she never picked up, and so I said,

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Speaker 1: I'll try again later. What I was not aware of

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Speaker 1: is that a huge thunderhead had formed over the lake.

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Speaker 1: When I had the phone next to my ear and

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Speaker 1: I started to take it away to hang it up.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly I saw this huge flash of light comes out

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Speaker 1: of the phone and hits me in the face, and

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Speaker 1: I hear this incredibly loud crack, and it just threw

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Speaker 1: me back like a rag doll. I went flying backwards,

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Speaker 1: and this strange thing happened. I knew I had been

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Speaker 1: hit by lightning, and I knew I had been thrown backwards,

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Speaker 1: but suddenly had this strange sensation of moving forwards. And

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Speaker 1: I remember going, I don't understand. I know I got hit,

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Speaker 1: I know I got thrown back, and so why am

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Speaker 1: I standing here wondering what just happened. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I hear my mother in law screaming, and she's at

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Speaker 1: the top of the stairs. I'm at the bottom. She

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Speaker 1: starts running down the stairs right at me and I thought,

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Speaker 1: this can't be good. When your mother in law screaming

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Speaker 1: and running at you, something bad's going to happen. As

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Speaker 1: she was coming down the stairs, I realized that she's

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Speaker 1: not looking at me. She's looking off to her left.

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Speaker 1: As she gets down to the where I was, it

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Speaker 1: was like I didn't exist, and she just took off

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Speaker 1: to her left, and I thought, I'm going to follow her.

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Speaker 1: I went probably three or four steps, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, I was confronted with myself on the ground,

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Speaker 1: and I remember looking down at this body and I thought,

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Speaker 1: oh shit. And I remember my mind was racing like

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Speaker 1: crazy at the time, and I thought, when you died,

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Speaker 1: there'd be some bells and whistles or something would give

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Speaker 1: you a clue that you were dead. But I had nothing.

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Speaker 1: It was there was absolutely seamless. So here I am

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Speaker 1: standing there, I'm right at the head of this body,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking down and realizing that I'm dead. I'm

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Speaker 1: not in that body, and I get this sudden realization

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Speaker 1: that she's I'm thinking just like I normally would. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking in the same vernacular that I would normally think.

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Speaker 1: And it came to me that whoever I am I

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Speaker 1: always am, and this body is nothing but an empty

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Speaker 1: shell that my spirit spent some time in. There was

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Speaker 1: a woman who was standing behind me, waiting to use

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Speaker 1: the phone. It turns out that she was a nurse.

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Speaker 1: She starts doing CPR and everybody's crowding around, and at

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Speaker 1: this point, I'm thinking, there's no point in standing here,

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Speaker 1: and so I turned around and walked away, and I

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Speaker 1: walked over to the stairs, and I started going up

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Speaker 1: the stairs, and I get to about the third step.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I realized that my legs are

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Speaker 1: starting to dissolve. And I thought, holy crap, what is happening.

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Speaker 1: And as I was going up the stairs, my form dissolved.

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Speaker 1: I was nothing more than a ball of energy. By

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Speaker 1: the time I got to the top of the stairs,

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Speaker 1: that's all I was. And at that point I thought,

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Speaker 1: the stairs go off to the left, and I said,

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Speaker 1: the heck with this. I just went right through the wall.

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Speaker 1: When I got through the other side of that wall,

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Speaker 1: my wife was sitting on a chair and she was

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Speaker 1: painting children's faces. She had no idea what had happened.

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Speaker 1: And I made a specific note to myself of who

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Speaker 1: the kids were and what position they were in. It

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Speaker 1: would turn out to be an important factor later on

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Speaker 1: when it came time to check notes and see what

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Speaker 1: I really witnessed. That there was no possible way for

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Speaker 1: me to have witnessed. And I continued and I went

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Speaker 1: diagonally through that room, and I had the realization that

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Speaker 1: my family would be fine without me, and I went

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Speaker 1: through the roof and things really started to change at

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Speaker 1: that point. Suddenly I'm falling into a river of pure

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Speaker 1: positive energy. It was the most unbelievable thing I've ever felt.

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Speaker 1: If you could imagine absolute love and absolute peace, that's

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Speaker 1: all you felt in this energy. And the energy went

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Speaker 1: through everything and actually composed closed everything. As I was

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Speaker 1: feeling this and came to this realization, this is the

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Speaker 1: greatest thing that could ever happen to somebody. So this

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Speaker 1: river of pure positive energy is carrying me someplace, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't care where it was going because it felt

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Speaker 1: so amazingly great. I remember thinking this must be the

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Speaker 1: God energy. And I realized that we're all part of

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Speaker 1: this same energy force, and we are all connected. So

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Speaker 1: I'm floating in this river of pure positive energy. And

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Speaker 1: I was resigned to the fact that I was not

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Speaker 1: going to see my family again. I was off on

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Speaker 1: a new adventure. I reached a point where I'm ecstatic

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Speaker 1: about where it's taking me, and all of a sudden, boom,

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Speaker 1: I was back in my body. It was like somebody

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Speaker 1: had flipped a switch, and I was pissed. I remember

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Speaker 1: lying there, going, no, I don't want to come back.

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Speaker 1: Don't make me do this. I loved where I was going.

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Speaker 1: I want to complete that. But I was back. The

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Speaker 1: lady who had been doing CPR had stopped and she

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Speaker 1: was just kneeling next to me. I looked at her

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Speaker 1: and I said, it's okay, I'm a doctor. She just

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Speaker 1: laughed and said, you weren't a minute ago. I was embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: and so I just kept my mouth shut. At this point,

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Speaker 1: the police came and they called an ambulance, and I

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Speaker 1: refused to go to the hospital because as a physician,

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Speaker 1: I know what going to the murgency room is going

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Speaker 1: to mean. I'm going to sit there for hours and

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Speaker 1: they're going to tell me you're alive.

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Speaker 5: Go home.

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Speaker 1: So the big lesson there is no death, and your

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Speaker 1: spirit continues on and is everlasting. When we die, it's

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Speaker 1: just a change, it's a phase change. We enter into

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Speaker 9: To know that.

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Speaker 1: There is something else that occurs after death, and to

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Speaker 1: know that there is a force of absolute love and

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Speaker 1: peace that underlies everything and makes up everything is the

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Speaker 1: greatest gift that anyone could ever give me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for sharing that. Now, do you want

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Speaker 3: to tell us the reason you played that piano music

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Speaker 3: behind Doctor Sekoria?

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Speaker 5: So the film right now, the preview is over two

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Speaker 5: hours long, but I actually have about six hours of content.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if it's going to be three

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Speaker 5: part film, it's going to be a series of one

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Speaker 5: hour things. I don't know what I'm going to do

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Speaker 5: with it, but I have so much great content. I

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Speaker 5: have over one hundred hours of interviews. Even though it's

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Speaker 5: six hours, most people, I'm only going to get a

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Speaker 5: few minutes on camera. You can't hear the whole story.

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Speaker 5: So I want to let people know in the audience

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Speaker 5: that right now today you can go to the website

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Speaker 5: or the YouTube channel. The film's YouTube channel is at

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Speaker 5: Every Soul Knows, and everybody's full interview is available, so

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Speaker 5: you can see Tony's entire interview. It runs almost an

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Speaker 5: hour long. You hear his whole story, and it's available

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Speaker 5: for free. There's no subscription. I even cut out the

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Speaker 5: mid roll ads so you can watch the whole thing uninterrupted.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to honor the people who honored me, so

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Speaker 5: I wanted everybody's voice to be heard. I also wanted

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Speaker 5: to create like a reference library for the audience. There's

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Speaker 5: over sixty interviews now, so people are binge watching all

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Speaker 5: the interviews from the film on the YouTube channel. And

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Speaker 5: every morning I wake up and there's just these wonderful

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Speaker 5: comments in my inbox. People are so grateful. So Tony's

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Speaker 5: story is pretty incredible. Not only is it got hit

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Speaker 5: by lightning, but when he comes back, he finds out

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Speaker 5: that he has a talent, a gift, a proclivity for piano,

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Speaker 5: for classical piano. And when he came back from his

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Speaker 5: near death experience, he had this piece of music in

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Speaker 5: his head and he had to learn as an adult,

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Speaker 5: he had to learn how to play the piano, and

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Speaker 5: then he put on a bunch of concerts. He still

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Speaker 5: performs and he's written his own music. So people come

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Speaker 5: back from the near death experience changed in many ways,

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Speaker 5: and often they come back with some kind of psychic gifts,

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Speaker 5: but in his case, it was a musical talent that

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Speaker 5: he didn't know he had.

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Speaker 3: I love that story. It's so nice to hear different people.

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Speaker 3: And you've got some good people in there. Many I

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Speaker 3: didn't know, in a many I do. And I was

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Speaker 3: so delighted to see doctor Eben Alexander there and Anita

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Speaker 3: Morejani on it. Stories of healing after a near death experience.

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Speaker 3: So well done. And I love that you have got

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Speaker 3: the YouTube channel and everybody can watch all those films.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to go there right now. It's all available.

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Speaker 5: And it was really important to me, Sandra. I wanted

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Speaker 5: to give new people a chance. So about half the

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Speaker 5: people in the film you've seen, but about half of

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Speaker 5: them you haven't seen. I really wanted to give new

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Speaker 5: people a chance to shine. So I'm honored that people

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Speaker 5: like Evan and Anita and Jeff Olsen people like that

658
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Speaker 5: said yes. But it was also really important for me

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Speaker 5: to have new voices and new faces. So you have

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Speaker 5: a mix of that.

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Speaker 3: How do we create heaven on Earth while we're here?

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Speaker 3: There's a question for you.

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Speaker 5: I'll actually asked that question. Where is heaven in the film?

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Speaker 5: So here's my take on it. So heaven, it's not

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Speaker 5: a place or destination. It's literally just a frequency away,

666
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Speaker 5: right and that is a frequency of love, the frequency

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Speaker 5: of compassion, the frequency of forgiveness, And so we can

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Speaker 5: create heaven right here on earth. That's the promise of

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Speaker 5: the Bible, for Instanceance and many of the spiritual texts,

670
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Speaker 5: but we never knew how to get there. Again, I

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Speaker 5: say that we're not who we think we are, and

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Speaker 5: what's going on here is not what we think is

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Speaker 5: going on. And once we know that and embrace that,

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Speaker 5: then we can start living in a whole new way.

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Speaker 5: We need a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back

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Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Let's continue

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Speaker 3: with some more inspiration from filmmaker Peter Alessandria.

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Speaker 5: We're not who we think we are, and what's going

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Speaker 5: on here is not what we think is going on.

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Speaker 5: And once we know that and embrace that, then we

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Speaker 5: can start living in a whole new way. And when

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Speaker 5: we live in a whole new way, that's usually based

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Speaker 5: on this idea of oneness, this idea of unity, this

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Speaker 5: idea of unconditional love, forgiveness. My ted X talk is

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Speaker 5: on forgiveness. The longest chapter in my book is on forgiveness.

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Speaker 5: That seems to be one of my sole lessons in

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Speaker 5: this lifetime is working through forgiveness. These are the ways

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Speaker 5: that we create heaven on earth. But it starts with

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Speaker 5: this awareness. As long as I think I'm this body

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Speaker 5: again that has so many limited lifespan and subject to

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Speaker 5: all the ills of the world and all the challenges,

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Speaker 5: it's very hard to live from that place of oneness,

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Speaker 5: of compassion, of unity, and of unconditional love. But once

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Speaker 5: I begin to change that idea about myself, see myself differently,

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Speaker 5: and by the way, see everybody else differently. Now we

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Speaker 5: can create heaven on earth. So we do have two

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Speaker 5: people in the film who discuss the experience of a

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Speaker 5: loved one taking their own life. One is Michelle Claire,

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Speaker 5: she's a psychic medium, and the other is Paul Rand.

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Speaker 5: Paul is associated with the Michael Newton Institute. He's a

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Speaker 5: regression therapist. He lost his son to suicide and Michelle

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Speaker 5: lost her fiance to suicide. The good news is cast

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Speaker 5: out of heaven. They're not denied in any way the

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Speaker 5: experience that any of us will have when we pass.

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Speaker 5: They are met with love, acceptance, compassion. See here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: When you cross over, you almost immediately see things that

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Speaker 5: you didn't see while you were here in this body.

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Speaker 5: I think it becomes apparent that taking our own life

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Speaker 5: is not a solution. It's not a way to solve anything.

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Speaker 5: So you have that awareness when you cross over from suicide,

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Speaker 5: and then you're met with guides, with angels, with your family,

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Speaker 5: loved ones, and you're given a chance to reevaluate your

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Speaker 5: choice and to see how you might have handled things differently.

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Speaker 5: But the biggest message is nobody is cast out of heaven.

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Speaker 5: There's nobody who's punished for making that decision. It's simply

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Speaker 5: a mistake. And what I was going to say earlier,

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Speaker 5: I've got to mention two things. So one is there's

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Speaker 5: this thing called the valor forgetting. The veil of forgetting.

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Speaker 5: Is we come into this life, this physical life, and

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Speaker 5: we completely forget who we really are. But we do

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Speaker 5: that by choice, and we know that's going to happen,

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Speaker 5: because what that does is it makes this earthly experience

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Speaker 5: real and meaningful. If we came here and knew everything

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Speaker 5: about Heaven who we really are as soul a spirit,

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Speaker 5: it would almost be like knowing all the answers to

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Speaker 5: the final exam. At first it would be fun, probably,

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Speaker 5: but eventually it would make the exam meaningless. There would

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Speaker 5: be no point in taking the exam. So it's similar

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Speaker 5: to this earthly experience. But part of the forgetting is

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Speaker 5: that we forget things like what happens when we make

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Speaker 5: a choice to take our own life. So that veilor

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Speaker 5: forgetting is important. And what we're doing now by awakening

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Speaker 5: to who and what we really are, is we're beginning

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Speaker 5: to move through that veil, becoming thinner. The other thing

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Speaker 5: I want to mention real quick before I forget is

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Speaker 5: last night was my eleven year old niece's dance recital.

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Speaker 5: So she belongs to a dance school, and she has

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Speaker 5: some challenges. She actually has a mild case of marble palsy,

741
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Speaker 5: and my sister has worked with this kid and you

742
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Speaker 5: almost would not know that she had any kind of

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Speaker 5: a disability. So there was probably about forty or fifty kids,

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Speaker 5: their range of age from maybe age six to age sixteen,

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Speaker 5: and they get up in groups and they perform on stage,

746
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Speaker 5: especially the younger ones that kind of lack coordination, and

747
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Speaker 5: they're trying so hard. They're up there and they're trying

748
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Speaker 5: so hard to do their dance and keep up with

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Speaker 5: all the other people in the group and to remember everything.

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Speaker 5: And there's somebody in front of the stage, especially for

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Speaker 5: the young kids, as one of the teachers, and she's

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Speaker 5: showing everybody what the moves are to help them along.

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Speaker 5: And then you have an auditorium filled with probably three

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Speaker 5: hundred people family and friends of these kids, the parents

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Speaker 5: and the families. Everybody's cheering and clapping, and they're so

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Speaker 5: supportive of these kids. Even when they make a mistake,

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Speaker 5: they get a round of applause, and it's like there's

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Speaker 5: so much love and support. So two things come from that.

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Speaker 5: So number one is I think we, you and I

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Speaker 5: and everybody else are those kids on the stage when

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Speaker 5: it comes to this soul experience. We don't really fit

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Speaker 5: in here, and it's awkward and it's hard to negotiate

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Speaker 5: the physical plane. We talk about how we hear from

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Speaker 5: the near death experiences, how it's so limiting and it's

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Speaker 5: so dense and it's the opposite of what we experience

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Speaker 5: on the other side, which is freedom and unlimited liss

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Speaker 5: and power and all of that. So work the kids

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Speaker 5: on the stage and our soul families, our guardian angels,

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Speaker 5: our soul guides. They're the ones in the audience cheering

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Speaker 5: us on, right, They're just there to support us and

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Speaker 5: to love us. And it doesn't matter what we do,

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Speaker 5: they're still going to love us, right, and they're still

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Speaker 5: going to support us, and they're still going to be

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Speaker 5: there for us. And so I cried doing this dance

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Speaker 5: recital because I really got that we have this whole

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Speaker 5: team with us of angels and guides and loved ones,

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Speaker 5: and they're all rooting for us, right because they know

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Speaker 5: how hard it is here and they all want us

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Speaker 5: to succeed, and they love us unconditionally. And again, were

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Speaker 5: those kids. So have a little compassion for yourself and

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Speaker 5: everybody else, have a little understanding, some forgiveness, And the

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Speaker 5: purpose of being here is to give and receive love.

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Speaker 5: To give and receive that unconditional love. And we have

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Speaker 5: to start with ourselves. So even when you make a

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Speaker 5: mistake on that stage of life, find that love for yourself.

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Speaker 5: Find that forgiveness right, and that changes everything.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Tell us again

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Speaker 3: the website what we can find there.

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Speaker 5: So there is a preview online right now, and the

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Speaker 5: website is everysoul knows dot com. Three words. Hopefully it'll

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Speaker 5: be widely available on places like Netflix, Amazon, the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: But I haven't even finished. I'm still editing. I haven't

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Speaker 5: finished the film yet. When the film is finally finished,

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Speaker 5: it'll be widely available. And just check out the website.

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Speaker 5: You could subscribe. I do a monthly newsletter, so I

796
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Speaker 5: keep everybody up to date on what's happening with the film.

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Speaker 3: Is there something from the film or from your interviews

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Speaker 3: that you just hold on to that's like your truth?

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Speaker 5: So the last question I ask in the film is

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Speaker 5: what does our soul want us to know? And again

801
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 5: there's thirty people. They all said the same thing. Our

802
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 5: soul wants us to know that we're loved, that we're valuable,

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Speaker 5: that we're worthy, that we deserve love, that were good enough,

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Speaker 5: and that God is incomplete without us. There's a workbook

805
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 5: lesson in course of miracles. God is incomplete without me.

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Speaker 5: So we all make up this greater whole. We're all

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Speaker 5: part of that, and we're all equally important, we're all

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Speaker 5: equally valuable, and we're all equally loved and lovable. And

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Speaker 5: so to me, that changes everything because when I love myself,

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Speaker 5: now I can love others. And when I love others

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Speaker 5: now we have a whole different world.

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Speaker 3: You brought up God, there's all kinds of views of God.

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Speaker 3: Was there a common theme that went through when you

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Speaker 3: interviewed the folks?

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Speaker 5: So another question I ask in the movie is what

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Speaker 5: is God? And where is God? The general consent on

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Speaker 5: that is just look in the mirror if you want

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00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 5: to see where God is right, because we were all

819
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 5: a spark of the divine, a fractal of God. We

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Speaker 5: are God and you informed we are God experiencing itself.

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Speaker 5: And I've only had one what I would call spiritually

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Speaker 5: transformative experience in my life. In two thousand and one,

823
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Speaker 5: I went to a Neil donad Walsh retreat. Neil donadh

824
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Speaker 5: Walsh wrote Conversations with God books, the whole series. We

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Speaker 5: did a retreat there and I did a lot of

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Speaker 5: forgiveness work during that retreat and I had this amazing

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Speaker 5: meditation experience a Kundalini type experience where I just felt

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Speaker 5: all this energy come up, rush through my body out

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Speaker 5: the top of my head, and I had this profound

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Speaker 5: feeling of oneness with everyone and everything and peace. And

831
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Speaker 5: so after that experience, I came back to the workshop

832
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Speaker 5: because we all went off on our own to meditate.

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Speaker 5: I came back to the dining hall and all I

834
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 5: wanted to do was look into everybody's eyes. I just

835
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Speaker 5: wanted to connect with them, to feel that love, that oneness,

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Speaker 5: which kind of freaked a few people out. I explained

837
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Speaker 5: what was going on with me, Sander. It was the

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Speaker 5: first time in my life that I didn't have any fear.

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Speaker 5: I was completely, just totally at peace. Two days later,

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Speaker 5: when the workshop ended, I was leaving. I was walking

841
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Speaker 5: out of the workshop to go to the bus, dragging

842
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 5: my luggage behind me on this gravel path, and I

843
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 5: just had this moment of gratitude. I felt so grateful

844
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: right for everything that I had experienced that week. In

845
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: my mind, I just said God, thank you so much,

846
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Speaker 5: thank you, I'm so grateful. A moment later, I heard

847
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 5: in my mind, and I still get chills just talking

848
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Speaker 5: about this, I heard very clearly, thank you Peter for

849
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: allowing me to experience life through you. It took my

850
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 5: breath away, and I was with a bunch of people

851
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: and I had to stop and lean against this tree.

852
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 5: I thought I was going to collapse, and they all

853
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 5: looked at me, like, are you okay? And I think

854
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: that explains our relationship with God. God is us experiencing

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Speaker 5: itself through us in this physical experience in the three D.

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00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: The analogy I give is in heaven we read the

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Speaker 5: book on riding the bicycle, but in the earth plane,

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00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 5: in the three D, in the physical, not only do

859
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 5: we ride the bike, but we fall off the bike

860
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Speaker 5: and scrape our knees. And not only do we fall

861
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 5: off and scrape our knees, that's the experience that the

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00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 5: soul has which we can't have in heaven. It's that polarity,

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Speaker 5: that duality, And it's in that moment, for instance, when

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Speaker 5: I fall off the bike and scrape my knees, I

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Speaker 5: have an opportunity to love myself, to forgive myself for

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Speaker 5: making that mistake right. Or do I choose to feel

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Speaker 5: bad about myself? Do I choose to get angry and

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Speaker 5: push them off their bike? See, that's why we're here, guys,

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Speaker 5: it's that moment, that choice point, do I choose to

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Speaker 5: be who I really am, which is love, compassion, goodness, forgiveness,

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Speaker 5: And there's no right or wrong. Nobody's judged. We hear

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Speaker 5: that all the time in the Life Review. Nobody's judged

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Speaker 5: for the choices that they make. But that's why we're

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Speaker 5: here to know ourselves and our own experience as what

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Speaker 5: why we're here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Now, is there a resource through

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Speaker 3: great soul knows to get back to you your book?

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Speaker 5: The website for my book is bebiggertoday dot com. The

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Speaker 5: title of the book is be Bigger Than You Think

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Speaker 5: You Are. It's a personal development book. I talk a

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Speaker 5: lot about forgiveness as well as some very practical things

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Speaker 5: relationship stuff, manifesting and creating the life that you want

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Speaker 5: to have.

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Speaker 3: Peter, thank you so much for being our guest here today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you Sandra for having me, and thank you for

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Speaker 5: all that you do. You have been a trailblazer in

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Speaker 5: this field for years now and really paving the way.

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Speaker 5: And I think we are all part of this awakening,

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Speaker 5: this ascendance, right and it is this message of oneness,

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Speaker 5: of love, of unity, of forgiveness, and so I want

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Speaker 5: to thank you for all your hard work. I know

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Speaker 5: it hasn't been easy. I know it hasn't been easy,

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Speaker 5: and you're still in the game, which is great. So

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Peter, and you bet I'm still in the game.

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Speaker 3: Check out the website everysoulnows dot com and don't forget

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Speaker 3: come visit me We Don't Die dot com so much

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Speaker 3: to explore classes, medium demonstrations, and of course our free

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Speaker 3: Sunday gathering inspirational service. My friends, our time together has

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Speaker 3: come to an end. If you enjoyed this episode, feel

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Speaker 3: rough day and they need to remember who they really are.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. From the bottom of my heart. Thank

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Speaker 12: Mm hmm