WEBVTT - Defending Patrick Mahomes' Offense | Jaguars Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in.

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<v Speaker 3>worth saving. Chiefs Jaguars. In week two, we'll go through

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<v Speaker 3>the defense of Patrick Mahomes and the weapons around him. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Trevor Lawrence has some weapons around him on offense. Do

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<v Speaker 3>they plan to attack the Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 3>hear from the head coach about that. Doug Peterson will

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<v Speaker 3>join us at five o'clock for the Doug Peterson Show

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<v Speaker 3>in studio with us here at the middle of Electric Center.

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<v Speaker 3>JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We're on Tenton XL ninety two

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<v Speaker 3>point five FM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube all

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<v Speaker 3>the places. Jeff Logoman, Good afternoon, Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Afternoon, JP. Big game this week. Well it's the big

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<v Speaker 2>game because it's the next game. Oh no, it's not. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. However, it's a really big next game. It's

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<v Speaker 2>as big as they come. Look it's the Super Bowl champs. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming to your house. Last year you had to

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<v Speaker 2>go to their house twice. You know, this game could

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<v Speaker 2>have seated implications down the road. You never know. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather have it than not. Oh. Absolutely, And then here's

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity. Put Kansas City at oh to two. And

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<v Speaker 2>they have been competing in the postseason from the comfy

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<v Speaker 2>confines of Arrowhead Stadium for how many years now.

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<v Speaker 3>They've hosted They hosted five AFC Championship games in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So why not try to change that little

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<v Speaker 2>set up there that they've got. It would be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>The last time the Chiefs were zero and two was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fourteen Bugs and Alex Smith was the quarterback, Doug

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<v Speaker 3>Peterson was the offensive coordinator. Patrick Mahomes was a freshman

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<v Speaker 3>at Texas Tech. It's been a while. They finished nine

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<v Speaker 3>and seven though they rallied.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's you know, look, I let him rally next week,

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<v Speaker 2>just not this week. And how about this?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, Andy Reid, if he gets a win, would

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<v Speaker 3>tie Tom Landry for the fourth most wins in the

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<v Speaker 3>history of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So he's one win from tying Landry if he

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<v Speaker 2>wins on Sunday. All right, well, I mean take that

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks away too. Andy Reids a Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame coach. I mean, at some point he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be in Canton and very deserving. But you know, and look,

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Peterson has never beat him. What is it was

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<v Speaker 2>Doug O three now against Andy Reid one in Philly

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<v Speaker 2>and then to two last year. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to change that. I'm sure that Doug would like

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<v Speaker 2>to to get on the winning side of things against

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher so to speak, or the mentor whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call him. I mean, the first time they

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<v Speaker 2>crossed paths was when Doug was a player with Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay and Andy was a quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach, right he was, well, he was actually I think

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<v Speaker 3>the tight ends coach at first, and then switched over

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<v Speaker 3>in the last year or so and Doug was there,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know, obviously when Andy Reid got the

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<v Speaker 3>job in Philly, he came over to Philly as a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>that gave him a chance to start in Philly of

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<v Speaker 3>all things, and then followed him as an assistant when

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<v Speaker 3>when Reid was in Philadelphia as the head coach, and

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<v Speaker 3>when he came back into coaching. So a long history

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<v Speaker 3>with Andy Reid, obviously on and off the field, and

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<v Speaker 3>storyline this week, of course, I mean the quarterbacks, Mames

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<v Speaker 3>versus Lawrence. It doesn't get much bigger than that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of those matchups you really could remember for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. Game of the week could be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, where's a better game at I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the NFL schedule and you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you say game of the week, you're talking top

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks in the league, and you know tonight you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts versus uh Kirk Cousins. I mean, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a marquee matchup. I mean, it's a good match up

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<v Speaker 2>just because it's Philadelphia and and then by themselves as

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<v Speaker 2>a draw to me because I think there's such a

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<v Speaker 2>talented team across across. I mean I'm talking offense, defense,

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<v Speaker 2>special teams, all of them. You got the Ravens and

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals this week. That's a good match up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's good. But I mean, does Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>make you go wow? Yes, I mean he does when

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<v Speaker 2>he when he runs it. I mean, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>is he wont an MVP? I mean, but is he

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<v Speaker 2>in the conversation of the elite quarterbacks in the a

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<v Speaker 2>f C. I mean from the running standpoint, he, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he is. I don't see it. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's just step back. I'm not saying that's a better

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<v Speaker 2>matchup than this one. I'm saying that's still a very no.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a very good Okay, very good, to

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<v Speaker 2>use your turn, very good, very good Texans rookies. Wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, Jack's Chiefs. That's excellent. Yes, okay, very good

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<v Speaker 2>versus excellent. I'm taking that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, fine, Colts Texans young rookies first round draft picks.

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<v Speaker 2>This year.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, give it some time down the line. Maybe Rams No.

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<v Speaker 3>Dolphins Patriots No. Two is getting better, getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>He was number one ready quarterback in Week one. Pretty

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<v Speaker 2>darn sure. You're right, Hey, that's it is the I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think it's the best matchup of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean from a quarterback standpoint. And but it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you'll you'll look back at this game maybe and

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<v Speaker 3>who knows how the game goes, how the next few

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<v Speaker 3>years ago will determine a lot of this. But maybe

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<v Speaker 3>if the Jaguars get over the top of this game

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<v Speaker 3>and it carries them in this season into the postseason

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<v Speaker 3>where they all of a sudden in a year or

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<v Speaker 3>two times have taken the throne from Kansas City, you

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<v Speaker 3>might look back at this game as maybe the turning point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well maybe, but I mean, look, taking the throne from

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City. I mean, look, they got two, they got

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<v Speaker 2>two Super Bowl wins in the last three years. Well

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<v Speaker 2>that's history. Well I mean, yeah, JP, I'm all for it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Okay, but I don't think I think that

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's gonna be a rotating crown, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 2>in the AFC. And you just want to be in

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<v Speaker 2>that rotation because I mean, look, there's some talented quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this game can go a long way

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<v Speaker 2>towards solidifying Trevor Lawrence in the conversation with Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>and Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson. I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to talk about the elite quarterbacks, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this could do it for Trevor. But you you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to have a moment. And I think Trevor had a

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<v Speaker 2>moment last year against Justin Herbert in the playoffs. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a big one. Well, now if you do that

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<v Speaker 2>against Patrick Mahomes, people are going to say, whoa him?

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes. Okay, who's next? Darty? Did Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson last year? Right? The Bills would be next to Tottenham? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And then coming up in England? Is that considered London

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<v Speaker 2>by the way? Okay, it's a big city, Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Wembley is considered London, but yet it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really London. It's London, but it's not really. It's easier

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<v Speaker 2>to say London. Okay, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Also a big game that Josh all big games, right,

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<v Speaker 3>big game? Maybe Josh will throw three picks to the Jags,

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<v Speaker 3>and well, I hope so, and we got some weeks

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<v Speaker 3>to get to that game. This is the one, though,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the matchup where Okay, Patrick Mahomes doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the weapons he had a couple of years Tyreek

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<v Speaker 3>Hills in Miami now.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, what did he have like three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards receiving the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they decided to play man coverage against him all

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<v Speaker 3>over the place? Hell uh, pretty wild. So he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have that over the top guy anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Juju Smith Schuster was not an over the top guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least he was Patrick's guy last year. And

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<v Speaker 2>where did he go? He's in He's somewhere else. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not in Kansas City. So you have Marquez Valdez Scantling.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Patriots sky Moore, Juju Smith Shuster's of the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sky Moore was a draft pick a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago and he hasn't really done it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Caadarius Tony had the worst rated game by a

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver in the National Football League Week one, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's capable of better than that. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a tough outing, and then you have draft

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<v Speaker 2>picks Justin Watson, Richie James, Justin Ross. I mean, a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of guys, you know. But the reality is is

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<v Speaker 2>that Patrick Mahomes can make a lot of guys look

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<v Speaker 2>really good. And when he has Travis Kelcey, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>just a guy. I mean, this guy's awesome. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what what is he I was doing numbers. Seven consecutive

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand yard seasons for Travis Kelcey remarkable, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he had like the first couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>he had I think like seven eight hundred yards receiving

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<v Speaker 2>and then bam, thousand thousand, thousand, thousand thousand thousand thouars.

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<v Speaker 2>He's awesome. And if he's nicked up and not quite

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent, great because I can tell you know, look,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's an area the Jaguars defense struggle with

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<v Speaker 2>last year defending tight ends. You could say that for

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<v Speaker 2>the past decade, you know. Look, I mean, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just living in the present. Made a career against this,

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<v Speaker 2>You'm just living in the present.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, nobody in the league gave up more receiving

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<v Speaker 2>yards to tight ends than the Jaguars. Fair. And part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason why is that they faced Travis Kelcey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes twice, Yeah, that's right. And in the playoff the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff didn't count that I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the playoff game, you know, fourteen catches, only

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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight yards, but still two touchdownds.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was oh effective in that. He's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just he's crafty. But you don't big.

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<v Speaker 3>What you don't want from him the longs is him

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<v Speaker 3>running wild for like the thirty yard games. That's when

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<v Speaker 3>it can get really strange. I mean that can take

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<v Speaker 3>a six.

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<v Speaker 2>Yard game here or there, but not very often that

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<v Speaker 2>he has a thirty yard gain. I mean, that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the outlier with him. He's a tight end. Most

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<v Speaker 2>tight ends are somewhere in that eight to twelve yard

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<v Speaker 2>per reception range. Kelsey's typically a little bit on the

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<v Speaker 2>higher end of that. But he's got a ton of receptions.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just I mean a tight end that consistently

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<v Speaker 2>gets a thousand yards. I mean, is he the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>tight end ever? Ever? No, gronk, you think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the numbers. I mean, let's look at the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to the break. And we'll pull the numbers

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<v Speaker 2>out because I'm gonna tell you now, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 2>great argument. We could probably get into that about the man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan of Gronk, but man, consistency wise,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to get better than Kelsey. Now their their

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<v Speaker 2>neck and neck for sure. So here's the question for

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars defense. How do you begin to slow him down?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you defend him Kelsey? Bang him on the

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<v Speaker 2>line of scrimmage and try to put two on them

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<v Speaker 2>when you can. I mean, that's what you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's he's the most consistent weapon for Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Mahomes play in and play out, and when you want

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<v Speaker 2>to stop somebody, you want to take away the bread

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<v Speaker 2>and butter, and right now, I mean that's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>most comfortable bread and butter thing that Travis or that

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes haves is Travis Kelsey. I mean, he's that good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's he's just dynamic in so many different ways,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's you know, he's pretty decent blocker too, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of odd. A lot of times when

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<v Speaker 2>you get a guy that just wants to he just

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<v Speaker 2>wants to catch the ball, but Kelsey's willing to do

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of the dirty work as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>those two guys, I mean, one little look from one

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<v Speaker 2>to the other, and it's like this unspoken communication that

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<v Speaker 2>happens with these two guys, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>they change the route and do things that adjustments on

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<v Speaker 2>the sideline. I mean, and he's a special player now.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the crazy thing. Kelsey hasn't missed a game

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<v Speaker 2>in like forever. I mean, for him to miss the

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<v Speaker 2>opening game, I mean, I think he has I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many consecutive games with a catch, but the

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<v Speaker 2>number is just jaw dropping. It's just it's incredible. They

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<v Speaker 2>always find a way to get the ball to him.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's out there, well, he finds a way to

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<v Speaker 2>open the lane to get the ball to him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's that good. I don't think you can cover him

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<v Speaker 2>with one guy. I mean, JP, name me one guy

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<v Speaker 2>on this Jaguars football team that you would feel good about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, Hey, you covered Kelsey and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be just fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's Kelsey's not like a dynamic, fast guy though, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But but I mean tell me somebody that I feel

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<v Speaker 3>you would feel good about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean him or Cisco somebody like that. You feel

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<v Speaker 2>good about that? Yeah, I don't feel great about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not feeling great about it. Who would you

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<v Speaker 2>put on him? Now? Two? Both of them on them,

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<v Speaker 2>two different guys. Both of those guys Dena. Lloyd and

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<v Speaker 2>Andre Cisco. Good luck you are not getting the football

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<v Speaker 2>play with twelve. We'll see what happens with that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something to watch obviously in this game to see

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<v Speaker 3>his status as we move along and get the injury

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<v Speaker 3>report coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>And just a little bit as well.

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<v Speaker 6>As the game progresses, they get better, right and and

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<v Speaker 6>so that's something that is a challenge for us, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and one of the things that we've been able to

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<v Speaker 6>do most recently, is is is the same thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>get better kind of as the game progresses and get

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<v Speaker 6>into the fourth quarter, and evident of that last week,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and and how we you know, we're able

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<v Speaker 6>to score. Defense gets to stop things like that, and

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, it could it could come down to that, right,

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<v Speaker 6>It could come down to a kick, could come down

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<v Speaker 6>to whoever has the ball last, which you know you

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<v Speaker 6>do look at the playoff game, right and if we don't, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't fumble, hopefully you score.

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<v Speaker 6>You're down three with you know, five minutes to go,

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<v Speaker 6>you get, you know, so it's going to come down

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<v Speaker 6>to those types of types of moments.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the head coach, Doug Peterson.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So the Jaguars offense last week, just briefly review.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, third and fourth downs not ideal for this

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<v Speaker 3>the Jags offense, but they found a way in key

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<v Speaker 3>moments late to score and they put up thirty one

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<v Speaker 3>points on a day where they were just awful on

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<v Speaker 3>third and fourth down. Well, and credit the defense that really,

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<v Speaker 3>I think. Look, they hung a thirty one donut on

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<v Speaker 3>the Colts, but without defense, that doesn't happen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there's just no way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what really impressed me and I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to focus in on the defense just for a

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<v Speaker 2>little minute because that really enabled the offense the time

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<v Speaker 2>to get better in the course of the game. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about it, when the Colts took the

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<v Speaker 2>lead or the Jaguars took the lead at seventeen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>they hit a stretch of offense that was just miserable,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, not good at all. And during that stretch

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<v Speaker 2>was the sack calls, fumble return for a touchdown, the

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<v Speaker 2>quad effective for Devorce Buckner. But in that stretch, the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars defense I think had three three and outs and

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<v Speaker 2>then a takeaway which led to the forty seven yard

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<v Speaker 2>punt return by Jamal Agno. So I mean the defense

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<v Speaker 2>in that stretch when they needed them most, they were

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<v Speaker 2>lights out, lights out, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the punt return. The offense wakes up, thank goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>to a fourth down conversion to Zay Jones on that drive,

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<v Speaker 2>second of the game for and then boom, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the end zone. And then you come back out.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyson gets a really nice interception on a poorly thrown

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<v Speaker 2>ball by the rookie, and then the offense takes it

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<v Speaker 2>down the field in just a couple of plays in

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<v Speaker 2>the end zone, and now it's a two possession game

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<v Speaker 2>and the game is essentially over because Anthony Richardson just

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not the position you want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a young quarterback. Then, But the defense I think got

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<v Speaker 2>to give them a lot of credit. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people had a lot of questions about, including me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>can they rush the passer, can they hold up you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't add any parts or pieces to the component

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<v Speaker 2>through the off season. Is that going to be okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And look, they played fantastic three takeaways as a defense.

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<v Speaker 2>You got seven points off of those three takeaways. You

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<v Speaker 2>also stop the Colts two times on downs. Just a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous job. Tremendous job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really good job in the offense. Now moving ahead

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<v Speaker 3>against this Kansas City defense. You know they've they've got

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Smith. How much of a difference will that make

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<v Speaker 3>up front? Jaguars have a couple of guys on the

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<v Speaker 3>injury report this week. We'll see their statut Chris Jones

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<v Speaker 3>this week. Well, Chris Jones up front. First of all, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get to that. But there are there the center

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<v Speaker 3>and right guard, both on the injury report for the

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars'll see what We'll see their status moving ahead. But

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<v Speaker 3>what can you really expect from Chris Smith being out

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<v Speaker 3>for so long?

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Smith? What do you mean, Christmas, Chris Chris Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeez my gosh, what in the world it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a base I don't know. It's a long day. And

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Smith, former Jaguars defensive passed away recently. Yes, God

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<v Speaker 2>rest his soul, Chris Jones. I think you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five snaps in this game because you're you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>ninety degree temperatures. Possibly it's his first action back. He

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<v Speaker 2>is the best player on the Chiefs defense hands down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even an argument. I mean, he's that good.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about the second best defensive tackle in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>The only guy that I think that can dominate a

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<v Speaker 2>game like an Aaron Donald from that defensive tackle spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's just he's unbelievable. And the Jaguars have

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<v Speaker 2>a weakness right now. The performance that deforce Buckner had

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<v Speaker 2>this past game showed that the Jaguars need to be

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<v Speaker 2>better at those two guard spots in the center position.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Barts was in his first game back and

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't played in a while, was coming back from a

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<v Speaker 2>significant knee entry, had a little bit of a playtime

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<v Speaker 2>there against Miami Dolphins. Well, this guy this week, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a whole I don't want to say it's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole different level, because deforce Buckner is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>elite tackles in the game, with probably like number five

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<v Speaker 2>or six, but I mean we're talking about number two here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>number two. That's a big, strong he can rush the passer.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do everything, everything, and I'm surprised that they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to get him back in the fold on

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<v Speaker 2>a one year deal. I mean, I'm just I'm shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was reading through. I have to go

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<v Speaker 2>find it again. Some of the incentives to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>If they make a run again, let's say they go

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<v Speaker 2>win the Super Bowl, he's getting a significant bonus that

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<v Speaker 2>comes with some of the playtime incentives, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the number incentives, everything comes with that. If he gets

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<v Speaker 2>voted to these things, they've added that to the at

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<v Speaker 2>least this one year, I would guess. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go fix that. Well, Chris Jones said himself. He said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, they gave me enough of an increase this

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<v Speaker 2>year that would cover the fines, because I remember he

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<v Speaker 2>had fines that could not be rescinded for missing time

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<v Speaker 2>in training camp because he had a con track and

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<v Speaker 2>then also the missed game check. So he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>make all of that back and he's gonna get some more.

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<v Speaker 2>And I haven't heard whether or not that there was

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<v Speaker 2>an agreement to have the ability to tag him or

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<v Speaker 2>not at the end of this deal. I was hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that he would hold out for another week. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been entirely upset, but I mean, he he's such

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<v Speaker 2>a good football player that he now makes them better

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<v Speaker 2>because not only are they getting him back, but now

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<v Speaker 2>they're putting other players back in the position that they

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<v Speaker 2>can be better at as well. For example, Mike Dana, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Dana is a kind of a defensive end, good player,

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<v Speaker 2>strong player. They had him as an inside rusher of

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<v Speaker 2>this past game. Well, he's a powerful guy. I love

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<v Speaker 2>keep him outside, you know, naughty another defensive tackle. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a very good football player that they have for Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you allow him to be in a comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>position playing where he's should be at. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to have everybody kind of cover for the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of Chris Jones being on the on the football team

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<v Speaker 2>this past game. This week, you know, you're gonna still

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<v Speaker 2>have to do some things, but you're gonna have the

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<v Speaker 2>man back in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>A few of those numbers that we were just talking

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<v Speaker 3>about for Jones, Yeah, he gets a million bucks for

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<v Speaker 3>participating thirty five percent of the snaps, another million for

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent. If he gets ten sacks, he gets one

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<v Speaker 3>point two five. Now it's one point seven to five

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<v Speaker 3>s fifteen, So it just builds up and up, and

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<v Speaker 3>the two point one million dollars in training camp fines

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<v Speaker 3>are not waivable. That's why they added all these incentives. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>What does this defense normally feel like in Kansas City?

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<v Speaker 3>How do they Yeah, they normally play it pretty daring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would call him daring. And Steve Spagnola, the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator, likes to play some aggressive ball. He will

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<v Speaker 2>he will bring blitzes. He will play cover zero behind it,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that nobody's getting anybody help. Nobody's getting any help.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times if you blitz, then you can

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<v Speaker 2>have a single high safety deep in the middle to help,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if somebody gets out, he can be there

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of make that touchdown saving tackle. Cover zero

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<v Speaker 2>means there is no safety help, nobody's there at all.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on your island all by yourself. Okay, Tom Hanks castaway,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what you are. Wilson Wilson. Yeah, you're hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with Wilson, which is nobody. But yeah, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy that will that will take risks he

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<v Speaker 2>likes bringing speed, and if you have a quarterback that

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<v Speaker 2>has a quickness of the mind and can make the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions quickly and can deliver the ball accurately, you could

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<v Speaker 2>have a quarterback have a big day. And so could

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<v Speaker 2>this be a big day for Trep Very well? Could be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because if you're going to bring that pressure now,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna single Evan Ingram, You're gonna single Calvin Ridley,

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna single Christian Kirk and Zay Jones. And if

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback is on, you're gonna pay a price if

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<v Speaker 2>you can get it out. Gotta block them. No, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt. I mean the one I think the most

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<v Speaker 2>important component about the execution of the offense this week

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<v Speaker 2>is that the offensive line has to take a step up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this pass game that you know and look

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of reasons that you give them an

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<v Speaker 2>excuse I don't want to say an excuse, but a

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<v Speaker 2>pass whatever you want to call it, an explanation as

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<v Speaker 2>to why their performance wasn't where you wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you you had multiple guys that weren't playing

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<v Speaker 2>because of injury. Leading up to the game. BArch was

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<v Speaker 2>again coming back from from an injury. The only guy

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<v Speaker 2>that for the most part, that was out there through

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<v Speaker 2>the entirety of training camp was Fortner and then sheriff.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Harrison, your right tackled had a right shoulder injury.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been bothering. He's been in and out of practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Walker Little missed the last preseason game for precautionary reasons

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<v Speaker 2>because of some injury we don't really know about.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was splitting time in camp with with Cam Robinson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then Bartch obviously coming back from a significant

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<v Speaker 2>knee injury. Shatley, who had to play when Sheriff went down,

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't practiced much in camp because of the aphib stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's so a lot of reasons to explain

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<v Speaker 2>why their performance wasn't where it needed to be. And

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they're gonna get better, okay, and this

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<v Speaker 2>week would be a great time to do that. How

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<v Speaker 2>do you help him? Well, I think Trevor is really

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<v Speaker 2>good at helping an offensive line as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets the ball out, he moves in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>he feels pressure, he buys time without having to do

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<v Speaker 2>the the wiggly things that Josh Allen would term that

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes does. That's a great term. By the way

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<v Speaker 2>that he uses He's Wiggley's.

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<v Speaker 3>Fair grade line sense makes sense. Hey, plenty ahead. We're

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<v Speaker 5>I would say easy. I think it's simple to make

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<v Speaker 5>the adjustments. It's sometimes harder to execute. But I do

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<v Speaker 5>think that the most pretty much all the things are

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<v Speaker 5>self inflicted that we did on Sunday to put us

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<v Speaker 5>in these bad situations. So should be able to clean

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<v Speaker 5>those up, and we have to. You gotta play cleaner

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<v Speaker 5>than that if you expect to win. Obviously, our defense

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<v Speaker 5>had some huge stops, but you know that's putting a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of pressure on them time after time to do

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<v Speaker 5>that and kind of bring us out of that hole.

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<v Speaker 5>And we don't want to do that, So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to You gotta play cleaner. Like we talked

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<v Speaker 5>about playing against a team like the Chiefs this this Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>You know you got to you got to execute better

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<v Speaker 5>than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Good afternoon, Hello, happy to see you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's Chiefs Week.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Chiefs Week.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a big game.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say, so if they can't fill the bank for

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<v Speaker 4>that game, then they're never going to. But I know

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<v Speaker 4>they already have sold it out, so I think we

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<v Speaker 4>should be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it should be a packed house, great environment. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>before we get into that, would you take Kelsey or

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<v Speaker 3>Gronk as you're tied in all time as you're tied

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<v Speaker 3>d if you're building in their.

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<v Speaker 2>Prime, Yeah, one of the other. You'll check. You're taking Gronk.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can't cover Gronk. No one could drag him

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<v Speaker 4>down when he was healthy. When right, yes, brought healthy

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<v Speaker 4>prime Gronk.

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<v Speaker 2>He still scored ninety something touchdowns when he was hurt

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. Yes, yeah, but he only had four

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 2>one thousand yard seasons. Kelsey's had seven now in county.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>He's also got how many super Bowl rings to go with?

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Travis got two and was.

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<v Speaker 4>In two other ones. Yeah, yeah, they lost.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's two of the greatest all time. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's like you wouldn't go wrong either way. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Gronk's a better blocker. I will say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Gronk was always impressed with me because he's not fast,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's still with just no one could bring him.

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 4>It was like two people would have to tackle him

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 4>to get him down, so that alone, he would just

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 4>drag people with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and once he got a full head of steam.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, get and listen. He's not slow. I don't mean that.

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 4>I just mean in terms of, like he's not out

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<v Speaker 4>running anybody, so like he'll get out and get open,

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<v Speaker 4>but then he'll drag two people with him another twenty yards.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would definitely take.

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<v Speaker 2>A great debate though. I mean today's all then and done.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be probably Kelsey, depending how much longer he plays.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he plays another five years at this level.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Come on, I think if you can pay eleven years.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, if you can take out the injuries and have

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<v Speaker 4>prime Gronk, I would have Gronk.

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<v Speaker 2>Great debate. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know in

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>today's day and age, just passing.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 4>League also a point of yeah, I mean, it depends

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 4>what kind of scheme you're in, It depends who your

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 4>quarterback is, it depends if it's twenty twenty three or

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<v Speaker 4>twenty ten modern day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is the Jaguars get to line up

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 3>across from him this week, and it hasn't gone especially

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<v Speaker 3>well against him the last two times. Last time it was,

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of chipping down the field. Fourteen catches

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<v Speaker 3>in the game, still under one hundred yards, two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 3>in the playoff game. But if he's out there, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter if he's one hundred percent or not, he's a

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<v Speaker 3>primary target for number fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious how much we'll see him though, because if

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<v Speaker 4>he does, obviously it sounds like it might be a

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 4>game time decision. At this point. I know he's been practicing,

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<v Speaker 4>but how much how much will we actually see him

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<v Speaker 4>play because if he has banged up a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's a pain issue, of course. And with

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<v Speaker 4>all the other people that seem to be dropping balls,

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna want to see. They're going to want to

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 4>have him out there as much as they can. But

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 4>is Patrick Mahomee's going to be able to trust some

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<v Speaker 4>of those guys that had the dropsies last week? I

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 4>mean he'll have to, but it's easier said than done

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 4>when you're out there and you're trying to find somebody

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<v Speaker 4>down the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's going to be if Kelsey's out there,

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>he's full go Okay, Yeah, I think if he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be out there, well, you know, we're gonna

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of limit him or something like that. That he's

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>been around the game too long, I think to be

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>used in that fashion. And all the drops you're talking

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 2>about Cadarius Tony, poor guy. The guy had a rough

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.719
<v Speaker 2>go for four drops, big words. Well he had and

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, and he re talked about it this week.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>He said, you know, that's typically that's not his thing.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's got sure hands and well this past

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 2>game or you know, a week ago, that was his game.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Not a good one. But you know, here's the here's reality.

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>You go and look at he had the worst radiant

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.959
<v Speaker 2>of a wide receiver by PFF and week one the

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>second worst hated running back was Tang Pigsby. You know, so,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Bigsby had one of those days too, you

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>know where he had the fumble and then the ball

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>off his hands and Lee's doing an interception. But you know,

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>you sit there and you go, well, he's a rookie,

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Kadarius Tony. What is in like year four? You're that old? Yeah,

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>year three or four? Maybe three, it's not long, it's

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>not the three. Yeah, yeah, you're three.

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 4>So it's just tough when it's in primetime because then

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 4>that's all anybody's gonna remember of you for a while.

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of that, that's why the Juwan Taylor situation grew up.

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>The right tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>I obviously was not here last year, so it's the

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 4>first I've seen of this situation, and I was like, oh,

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 4>and then everyone I came to work, they're like, oh,

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 4>did you see that? They finally talked about John Taylor.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 4>We've been talking about that for years, So you guys were.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Forever and we didn't talk about it much because he

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 2>was on the Jaguars. He's on our team, and we

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>were going to complain about it. But the reality is

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>is that he did the same thing. We're in teal.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 2>But because the Jaguars stunk essentially for the early part

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>of his tenure and it didn't garner any attention, Well,

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>then he goes to a Super Bowl champion team and

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 2>then it's going to become front page and center for

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>everybody to watch. And I guarantee you there's a reaction

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>reaction by the league this week, guarantee.

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>In which regard the lining up behind the rear end

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 3>of the center part or the getting the jump on

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>the snap part or both.

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 4>When you watch the film, the timing he's almost always

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<v Speaker 4>on spot on is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of the Yeah, it's the lining up.

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it technically is a penalty. Yeah,

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 4>it's the lining up where he's like two feet behind

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 4>everybody else. I think that would be the breaking up

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 4>the rule. He is immaculate with the timing, Like even

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 4>when you slow down and it's frame by frame, it's

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 4>like he's on the money. So I don't even know

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<v Speaker 4>if that's anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I've slowed it down for like the first four years

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>of his career. Is he timing and up and he's

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 2>really good at it. Every now and again he'll he'll

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>be a little early, okay, but an official, it's got

0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 2>to be really obvious for them to throw the flag

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 2>on that. But the alignment thing, it's not even a question.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's far behind it. And he's also like

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 4>off to the side as well.

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, the rule is is that you have to

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>be able to break the plane of the of the

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 2>belt of the center. Okay, he's not even touching the

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 2>outer cheek by the belt the belts, so not the

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 2>rear end. It's where the actual belt the like the

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>mid hip belt somewhere, and that it's got a it's

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>got a. He's not even breaking the plane of the

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>end of the cheeks of the center. No, okay, not

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>even both cheeks. And no, it's not all the time.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's occasionally that he is so far back.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 2>And last week he obviously wanted to have that advantage

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>because he's going against a marvelous player in Aiden Hutchinson's Yeah,

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and that's a that's a huge advantage for a tackle

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>if he can line up that deep. I mean, as

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>a pass rusher, one of the great things that you

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>always want is the ability to threaten the upfield shoulder

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 2>of a tackle. And if he can line up another

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>yard and a half or a half a yard deeper,

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>it takes away the advantage of trying to get the

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>corner on the guy. You can't you can't get it.

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Crowd noise will be big this week. That would be

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 3>nice to give them some more issues on the offensive

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 3>line this week, right, you hope you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing. Kansas City, they went out and

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<v Speaker 2>they've got two entirely new tackles, Donovan Smith formerly at

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the Tampa Bay Bucks, and then obviously Juwan at right tackle.

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>The three inside guys are really good, I am really good.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Joe Tooney who came from New England at left guard.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>He was a top five guard for the last couple

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>of years. And then the center, Creed Humphrey might be

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the best three centers in all of football.

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And they got one in Philadelphia who Kelsey's brother and

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Jason kell See. And then the guy in Baltimore from

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Iowa is another one that's right there at the top.

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember his name. Good football player. The Jaguars

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>really liked him coming out in the draft. And then

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>at right guard, Tray Smith's a good football player too,

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>So I mean this might be the best group of

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 2>three when you talk about guard guard center that the

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars will face looking forward to the matchup for sure.

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, the Chiefs have a couple of running backs too, by.

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 3>The way, if they choose to go that routeless Jaguars

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 3>defense though, can be up to the task in the

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 3>run game.

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>All Access tonight, what you got, we.

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 4>Got the big man's coming through and Roy robertson here.

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of stopping the run. A big Roy up front,

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 3>that'll be fun.

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 4>He's always a good time. So I'm excited to see.

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Him defensive captain.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 4>I know is his first year as captain. Yeah, right, Yeah,

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 4>that's great. I'm not surprised. I mean, he's certainly a

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 4>leader and vocally and he's he's truly he's so kind

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 4>and he's so nice. But he truly is one of

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 4>those people when he's like on the field ready for

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.959
<v Speaker 4>the game, you're like, I get out of the way.

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Like he really does I think flip a switch to

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 4>a different human being. So I just stay out of

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 4>his way. So he's about as intimidating as it gets

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 4>for me.

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 2>He is a big, strong dude. I mean big strong dude.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>When you watch the battles of some of the best,

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>most powerful offensive lineman in football, Roy can handle him.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm talking handle him. The one guy last week,

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Quentin Nelson. Everybody thinks he's great, and he's strong, he's great.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Roy handles him like, you know, he comes off on

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Roy and was like, yeah, gotcha, you know it's all good.

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Roy doesn't struggle against anybody power wise. I don't know

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>where he generates his strength from, but he is. He

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 2>is a man's man when it comes to power, playing

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the game with power.

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 3>We'll get you to see that up close and personal

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>tonight at String Sports Brewery, seven o'clock right, Yes, different

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 3>station tonight. I think there's some coverage on Fox somewhere else.

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 3>I think it's on CBS.

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I think you're correct. I think it is on CBS.

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Stumped logs with that, he had no idea. I was like, yeah,

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you're right, JP, Yeah.

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 3>Whatever you say, I'll be it straight I'll be there,

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Kai will see you have a good one.

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Thanks guys.

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Kay Stevens joining us Jaguars reporter from Jaguars dot Com.

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0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.160
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0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Jaguars head coach will be in studio with us and

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 3>coming off a ten point road divisional win and facing

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 3>his former boss again. Andy Reid looking forward to hearing

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 3>from Doug.

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Coming up. Yeah, it'll be interesting to kind of hear

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 2>from that standpoint. You know, when you go up against

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the teacher, so to speak, you always want to win.

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.399
<v Speaker 2>And Doug hasn't beaten Andy in three tries so far.

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's never just a one on one battle, okay

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 2>between coaches, it's teams. But there's nothing better, I'm sure

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 2>than beating the teacher. If you are the student, tell.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Right after that long right, you learned almost everything you

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 3>know as an NFL coach from him.

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>If you've got a competitive fiber in your being, you

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 2>want to beat the man that you worked for, the

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 2>man that helped groom you, the man that helped shape you.

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And it would go a long way towards kind of

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 2>establishing this football team in the conversation of one of

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.439
<v Speaker 2>the best teams in the AFC. And you know last year,

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you know when they end up nine and eight at

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the end of the year, won a division, kind of

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>came back and ended up winning a bunch of games

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 2>there towards the end, we're like, yeah, yeah, this is great. Okay,

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 2>well if you take that next step. Okay, now, instead

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 2>of being happy and surprised by winning, you expect to

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>win and you can tell that that's a very distinct

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 2>change from last year at this point to where we

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 2>are right now. They expect to win. You heard it

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 2>from if you watched any of the sounds of the game.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean Trevor Lawrence in the tunnel before they ran

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>out to warm up before the game. It's like, you know, expected,

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.800
<v Speaker 2>we're here, this is this is not negotia. Basically, he

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't say that exactly, but he said expect it. That's

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>a win, that's right. And he is so mature beyond

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>his years. I mean, it's just it's a joy to watch.

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, and look, there's been some other

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.959
<v Speaker 2>twenty three year old quarterbacks that have played really well,

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes being one of them. But the maturity level

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>that Trevor shows is I think it's impeccable. And that's

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 2>that's hard to find. I mean, for him to be

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:33.720
<v Speaker 2>able to bounce back after one of the worst lost

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 2>years in franchise history, for him to be able to

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 2>bounce back from that kind of unharmed was I think tremendous. Well,

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 2>let's continue to see it between the lines on Sundays.

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Just keep building them as they as they go along.

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 2>That's where you'll really see the results of that come through.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>You know what I want to watch, I want to train.

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>You know. Look, we were talking earlier about how Steve Spagnola,

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the defensive coordinator of the Chiefs, is pretty aggressive. You know,

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 2>he likes to it's a gamble a little bit. When

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I say gamble, he's not afraid to blitz. Okay, if

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>you blitz, then that means you're leaving a weekend coverage

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>because it's kind of a you have to choose one

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>or the other. Do you leave extra guys in coverage

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 2>or do you send extra guys trying to pressure the quarterback?

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Or you can try to play it balanced. He likes

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>to bring extra in the rush package, so that means

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 2>that you're gonna have a little depleted coverage. So if

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be depleted, probably gonna end up playing man

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>who's gonna cover redly, who's gonna cover Ingram? I think

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 2>they have better options at covering Ingram. This is a

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 2>game that I believe in Kirk. Christian Kirk can have

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 2>a big game. Right if you think about the games

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 2>last year, how many throws were just so close to

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>connecting and he still put up numbers. Yeah, without those, yes,

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I think this is gonna be you know, and having

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 2>a game in which he had three targets only one

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 2>catch in Indianapolis and Trevor didn't even see him open

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.280
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times. Uh, look, you gotta you gotta,

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 2>you gotta function within the offense as a quarterback. Okay.

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.439
<v Speaker 2>But then there's also times where hey, look it's my guy, right,

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I gotta make sure I get something to my guy.

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised if early in this ball games

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 2>that's like, you know, the gun, you know, Trevor throwing

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the sound like a gun. It's not sound like a

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>crunchy shoulder. That's not a good sound at all. Trevor

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 2>hitting Christian Kirk easily don't even better? That better? Yeah,

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 2>a little better. Okay. I'm looking forward to because I

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Chiefs can cover them. I don't, I mean,

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I mean, and I think that's gonna be

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 2>an opponent's problem every week, you know.

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 3>But that's I mean, because the Chiefs understand what they

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 3>have on the offensive side in Mahomes and the play

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 3>caller and weapons whatever weapons are around him, right, they

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 3>feel like they're gonna get their thirty points.

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Per game, so they didn't get it last week.

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 3>But in theory, they feel like they could hold on.

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna get their thirty points per game on offense.

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why they can take risks on defense and maybe

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 3>try for a takeaway, get a sack fumble. All you

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>need is a couple stops In.

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Theory, maybe maybe, But here's the thing. Last last game, okay,

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 2>cam City played Detroit. Detroit just played coverage. They didn't

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 2>do anything fancy to stop Patrick Mahomes. They just sat

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 2>back and played his own and they weren't worried about

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Cam City. I think they were more worried about Patrick

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes scrambling and doing that more so than they were

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>worried about anything else interesting. But they plied with surprised.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, watching that film, I'm like, man, I can't

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 2>believe they played that much zone because you know, your

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>first thing is to instinct. Is you know what I thought.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>All the losses that Kan City has had from a

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 2>weapons standpoint, Tyreek Hill, Okay, Jujus Smith Schuster, you know

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 2>you're losing guys, and especially the first game when they

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 2>don't have Kelsey, you wouldn't be afraid to play a man, right.

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Detroit was like, Nah, we're just gonna play zone. And

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 2>they played kan City and zone and held them to

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 2>what twenty points? Yeah? And here here. I don't think,

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you talk about matchups, I think the

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars defense matches up against kan City against their offense

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 2>very well, with the exception of Patrick Mahome, because nobody

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 2>matches up against him very well. He's that good. But

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 2>like from an individual standpoint, you look at the weapons

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 2>that they have, Kelsey being the only exception. Okay, everybody else,

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you're okay with you can. I think you can handle

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>those guys, you know. I think that the Chiefs have

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a matchup problem with the Jaguars. I think most teams

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 2>are going to have a matchup problem with the Jaguars.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 2>High scoring sounds like to me, if you, I mean,

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>if you think, if you what was your be your

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>prediction right now score wise, total points score, I'm gonna

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 2>go thirty eight to thirty five. I'm thinking like seventy

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 2>points yep, you know, somewhere not range, you know, I

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>mean in the thirties. The only thing that may prohibit

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 2>seventy points is just the heat of the game. Yeah,

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, taking a little bit out. But I mean,

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I think this is like seventy points. I mean, this

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>is like a game in the thirties.

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Time now for the injury report presented by Baptist Health

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 3>and the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 3>of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Thursday report for the Jags

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 3>is out. Have not seen one for the Chiefs as

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 3>of yet. The Jaguars have five players on the list

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 3>this week. Antonio Johnson is not practiced yesterday or today.

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>The rookie safety. It could be a week or so,

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks. Maybe we'll see how that goes.

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Gregory Junior was injured in the game with a hamstring issue.

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Has not practiced yesterday or today. Brandon Sheriff, right guard

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 3>ankle injury limited today. That's improvement. He did not practice

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 3>on Wednesday. He was back out there on Thursday. Luke

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Fortner senter ankle injury limited today. He was out yesterday.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 3>That's improvement. Tyler Lacey, the rookie defensive lineman with a

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>hip issue limited, so that's good news for the offensive lineman.

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Sheriff and Fortner moving in the right direction at least

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe to go on Sunday.

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Well, you hope, but you want them to be able

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>to play, but then also play better. You know, they've

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>got to take a step up this week. And Sheriff

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of concerned about during that game. You know,

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 2>he goes down and it was like like.

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Just the way he went down, like up in the

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 3>air and then wasn't moving and everybody's waving for the

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 3>athletic trainers.

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh man, this is really bad, right the

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.399
<v Speaker 2>cart off, Yeah, carted them off. And then he comes

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>back in the game and he's limited in practice today.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he's incredibly tough because he was able

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<v Speaker 2>to play last year with a core injury that most

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<v Speaker 2>people wouldn't even think about trying to play, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to play. I mean, so he's tough, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's definitely a leader of that group, and if they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take a step up, then you know he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be a part of that. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that everybody's good to go so that they can

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<v Speaker 2>take a step up in performance this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to have it this week, and what a scene

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<v Speaker 3>it should be and that we'll hear from Doug Peterson

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<v Speaker 3>coming up on that scene as well, home opener for

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars The Doug Peterson Show. Moments ahead, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>hear from Iron Eagle as well NFL on CBS play

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<v Speaker 3>by play announcer. He and Charles Davis have the call

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<v Speaker 3>of the game Evan Washburn on the sideline. We'll hear

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<v Speaker 3>from Iron and get his thoughts on where the Jaguars are.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they ready for the big time? Well, this would

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<v Speaker 3>be a step in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll hear who's he calling the game with Charles Davis? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Charles a good guy. Yeah, been around a long time. Absolutely.

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I met him in New York back in eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably probably back in a while, it makes sense. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been around a long time too. He's good, good,

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<v Speaker 2>very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Broadcast full podcast coming up, I believe Saturday on the

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<v Speaker 3>Official Jaguars Podcast Network. We'll get Iron's thoughts. He's covered

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<v Speaker 3>so many Jaguars games over the years. Been with the

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<v Speaker 3>CBS since nineteen ninety eight, which is hard to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a rating Sportscaster of the Year, National Sportscaster of

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<v Speaker 3>the Year, Wow. So he's had a big year, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot going on for him.

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<v Speaker 2>What team would this be considered for CBS? Probably the

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<v Speaker 2>number two team, number two, Nanton Romo, number one with

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy Well, okay, I was just kind of curious about

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<v Speaker 2>that man, and where are they at this week? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I didn't look, I mean, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no no idea. I mean, the reason I asked

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<v Speaker 2>that is because of the games on CBS and the

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<v Speaker 2>there's no affiliation with AFC and CBS, Fox and the

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<v Speaker 2>NFC anymore. They everybody's kind of going all over the place,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I was just kind of curious, would it

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<v Speaker 2>be a Fox game that Romo would be at.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, No, they're still They're still on CBS. But

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing the Jets, Jets Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean. An NFC at Cowboys, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they're sitting there going Jets Cowboys. There's no Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's America's team. It is. They get big ratings

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a New York market and they're one and

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<v Speaker 2>oh they beat the hell out of the Giants. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you watch that game? About half of it? And then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what am I doing? Why am I

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<v Speaker 2>watching this? Would you have watched the whole thing of

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers played? No, I'm talking about the Cowboys game. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about the Jets game Monday night. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>watch that game? Well? I turned it on after the

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<v Speaker 2>fact I didn't have it on it here. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get on until after the factors. Well, and then then

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<v Speaker 2>I turned it off. Total bummer that he went down,

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<v Speaker 2>crazy game at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe we've got an instant classic this Sunday coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope so for from our perspective, a winning result

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<v Speaker 3>would be nice and our perspective, hey, stay tuned. The

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<v Speaker 3>Doug Peterson Show is coming up in mere moments. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for listening. The Jaguars Happy Hour